40 million americans are waking up to a gillette shave. and at our factory in boston, 1,200 workers are starting their day building on over a hundred years of heritage, craftsmanship and innovation. today we're bringing you america's number one shave at lower prices every day. putting money back in the pockets of millions of americans. as one of those workers, i'm proud to bring you gillette quality for less, because nobody can beat the men and women of gillette. gillette - the best a man can get. coming to you live from the brokaw news center in los angeles. it's roughly 10:00 in l.a., 1:00

out east. good day to all of you. here's what's happening. new today, general john kelly prepares to take control of the white house tomorrow. replacing reince priebus as chief of staff. but there's no indication that rival teams will pull together under his leadership. >> they'll be no more back biting. they'll be no more stabbing each other in the back. what scarmucci has said is he's the type of person if he wants to stab, he's going to stab you in the front. what i think general kelly wants to bring is the opportunity to make sure everybody on the staff is working for the good of the president and not their own agenda. >> also warning from president trump to think carefully about changing his attorney general as part of the white house shake-up. rather, this is for president trump as it comes from dianne feinstein. >> chairman grassley has put the bit between his teeth and said that there will be no hearings, mr. president, if you go ahead and fire jeff sessions. i think there has been

sufficient opposition for the president not to do so. unless of course what he really intends is to end up firing mueller, which could well be the beginning of the end of his presidency. >> meanwhile, one of america's big-city mayors is reacting to president trump's speech to police officers. in that speech, he appeared to endorse roughing up suspects being arrested. new orleans mayor mitch landrieu wants mr. trump to rethink his words. >> you can enforce the laws of this country, but using excessive force has taken us to places that are very dark. and we don't want to go back there. we all want to fight hard to make sure that we get violent criminals off the street. there's a way to do that with well-trained police officers, highly professional, that do not want to get back into the business of excessive force that brought us consequences of eroded trust between the community and the police. >> nbc's kelly o'donnell is joining us now from the white house, the epicenter of the

shake-up, of course. it certainly feels like republicans are setting up very high bar for general kelly. do you think he's going to be able to clideliver? >> based on his career and history, many people hold him in high regard and say he is someone who is capable and competent and most importantly has the trust of the president. that they've built a relationship over these last several months. and trust is important and the respect of the president is important. and we have seen that the president does tend to publicly show support for generals. so that's a good starting point. the many questions, big challenges for john kelly coming into this job, so much on his plate. restructuring. the power bases that are within the white house of prominent figures who have been able to hold sway at various times. dealing with all the cabinet members. trying to work on the agenda. there is a lot to do. the advice is coming today from people who have held that job. john podesta, democrat, of course, ran hillary clinton's campaign, served both presidents clinton and obama. had an idea about what john

kelly should be looking to do. not only serving the president but trying to protect the structure of the executive branch and the constitution in this way. here's what john podesta is offering. >> maybe the most difficult thing he needs to do is -- and you might be surprised to hear me say this, but i think he's got to protect the justice department and he's got to protect bob mueller and the investigation that's going on there from the continued assault by the president and by the white house. it's going to be his job to provide a bull work against interference by the white house which in the end of the day is going to get them in more trouble rather than less. >> and we've already seen other top officials saying they are prepared to work a little differently to abide by new rules so to speak in the west wing. we'll have to see how that plays out and how different will it really be. at the same time, you've got scarmucci coming in as communications director, saying

very publicly, prior to this, the shake-up of the chief of staff level that he reports directly to the president. you have jared kuchner, senior advisers who obviously could bypass anyone to get to the president. so these are big challenges with big agenda attemitems. the president dined with john kelly and two his cabinet secretaries last night here in d.c. they're spending time together. perhaps mapping out what this new week will look like. alex. >> okay, lots to look forward to. kelly o'donnell from the white house. joining me, the political reporter for the los angeles times. and aarerin mcpike, for "the independent journal." good to see you both. simone, you first, take a listen to trump's former campaign manager corey lewandowski who hadded this to say on "meet the press" regarding the white house shake-up.

>> what we need now from a chief of staff is ensuring that everybody who works in the white house is on the president's agenda. and what i would guess, moving forward, is that general kelly is going to bring the type of discipline to the staff to ensure that the leaks are stopped and that the president's agenda is foremost of what takes place in that building. so they'll be no more back biting. they'll be no more stabbing each other in the back. >> so what he's doing there, he seems to be implying that priebus was the source of the leaks from the white house. at least very ineffective in trying to stop them. he also says scarmucci is going to stab people not from the back, from the front. that's a very new york thing i guess is what they're saying. is everything just been laid bare here? >> i think general kelly just enters this with so many -- so much work to do, with so many challenges, with so many different, you know, areas of control as kelly was alluding to earlier with, you know, you have the daughter and the son-in-law, steve bannon who we haven't talked about in a little bit. you have scarmucci who went off on steve bannon in that

new yorker interview. people sort of jockeying for power for influence. so he's got to deal with all that. plus, trying to create some sense of order with this president, which i mean, i don't know if anybody can really create -- can stop him from tweeting at 4:00 in the morning. >> steve bannon, do you think his position's in peril? >> i wonder because of what scarmucci said about him, which we can't say on television. but, i mean, that was a very, very direct hit. we didn't hear any blowback from the president, you know, protecting him. >> yeah. >> erin, i'd like to get some smart money betting from you. where is -- where is the smart money? is it that kelly and scarmucci will be able to coexist or not? >> look, that is a great question. i think at the beginning things will be a lot better. reince priebus, when he came in as chief of staff, there was not a lot of trust in him. they'd come from the rnc. the trump campaign did not trust the rnc. re remember, during the primary, it was priebus and spicer who went

up to new york and basically told the trump campaign to get in line and they wanted donald trump to stop talking about the republican party and the way he was. so i don't think that ever could have been successful. i think there is a lot more trust in general kelly. and at least there's a lot more respect for him. so i think he'll probably start off on a stronger footing. whether or not he can totally right the ship. i think it's too early to tell but i think people will trust him a lot more and he probably has more runway to get things done. >> maybe a little more of a honeymoon period perhaps on that. we have the president tweeting yesterday about the health care bill. if a new health care bill's not approved quickly, bailouts for insurance companies and bailouts for members of congress will end very soon. what does he mean by that? you think this is going to motivate lawmakers? or might do just the opposite? >> no, and quickly, they've tried to push this through quickly. a number of times in the last couple of weeks. it has all ended in failure. it seems to me that the health care push should probably be dead at this point.

if they actually want to try to get something done on tax reform, which seems to be the idea. i don't know why he keeps pushing on health care when they're clearly not going to be able to get this over the finish line. it just doesn't make any sense. >> what do you think about this? what's your take? >> the whole problem with health care is they tried to do it quickly instead of, you know, during the past seven years when at rally after rally, every republican presidential candidate, whether an establishment candidate or libertarian or whoever, everyone is saying we need to repeal and replace obamacare but nobody came up with how to do it. part of the reason it went down in flames is because they tried to do it quickly instead of having a thought-out thing that will appease the moderates as well as the conservatives. >> there are those saying behind closed doors there is bipartisan discussion on how to keep this bill alive. the president wants it to get done. can it be effective? if they say, look, we almost went down in flames or by some estimati estimations, they did. but they don't want this to completely die. >> i think the question is will they go back, you know, if you're talking about repealing obamacare, you're never going to get a democratic on board.

but is there a way to go back and say, okay, let's fix what we have here, if we can't do the full, you know, do the full deal. and i don't know that there's a political will in d.c. to do that but after what we saw this week i don't know what other options they have. >> yes. erin, i'm sure you've heard it said that jeff sessions may move from ag to dhs. what's the conventional wisdom on that? >> i think what we're going to see is that it's going to be hard for the president to move jeff sessions into any new job. why would he? he already said he's not thrilled with the job he's doing. i don't know why he would make that move. i think you're seeing a lot of support for jeff sessions to stay in the job that he has now. so i think some of that talk, especially with kelly coming in this week, will die down. >> well, part of that talk may be because there's also speculations where were he to move to d hs, a new attorney general comes in and that person

would fire muler. >> there's so many in the senate about if something happens with sessions like this could create real problems, you know, in terms of -- i think it would increase the skepticism of just this whole situation. the other thing, when we talk about general kelly and loyalty, i think look at sessions. this was the first senator to endorse trump when nobody else was. way back -- when people -- i don't think anybody thought he'd be the nominee. he came out ahead of the gate for him. you know, the loyalty only lasted until -- >> you say it's a one-way street. >> right, exactly, unless their last name is perhaps trump. >> true. so erin, with regard to the firing potential of bob mueller by a new ag, how much credence did that have? what would happen? some have suggested there would be a constitutional crisis. what do you think would happen? >> yeah, i think, again, with kelly coming in as chief of staff, he's going to have to kill a lot of this talk. and in order to right the ship, i think the trump white house probably has to stop talking

about firings and really get its head on straight in terms of, like, actually doing some -- trying to make some progress. so i think we might see a little bit less of that kind of talk coming in. because they are going to want to talk about the policies they want to have going forward. in fact, sarah huckabee sanders told a reporter i work with on friday she wants to bring in more policy experts and talk about more policy at the white house press briefings. so there are some signs they are trying desperately to move forward and to do a little bit of real work as opposed to just saving donald trump from some of these crises happening around him. >> all right, erin, sima, good to see you both, thank you so much. the health care bill's failure in the senate may be the best thing that's happened to republicans. some are going to explain why they're saying that after the break. these birds once affected by oil

are heading back home. thanks to dawn, rescue workers only trust dawn, because it's tough on grease yet gentle. i am home, i am home, i am home

chairman grassley has put the bit between his teeth and said that there will be no hearings, mr. president, if you go ahead and fire jeff sessions. i think there has been sufficient opposition for the president not to do so. unless of course what he really intends is to end up firing mueller, which could well be the beginning of the end of his presidency. >> democratic senator dianne feinstein after a week of shots from president trump against attorney general jeff sessions. joining me in studio, congresswoman judy chu of california. ma'am, welcome to you. so you just heard the senator talking about forcing jeff sessions and what would happen as a result if he was forced out of the position there with

regard to the mueller investigation. would that be the end of the trump presidency? how do you read that? >> i do think it would be a drastic mistake. it would look like trump is indeed interfering with the work of our democracy, which is what mueller is indeed trying to do. >> so there's this calculated theory out there that the president may try to move the attorney general into the now vacant ahead of department of homeland security position that john kelly has vacated with his move to the white house. would that be any more tol tolerable to democrats? >> it would certainly not be. i also think it would be impossible to do so. the senators had clearly expressed their objections to having sessions removed. they do not believe there's a basis for that. >> so there is the hiring of general kelly and the white house chief of staff. and your fellow california congresswoman, barbara lee, has

said the president, by doing so, is now militarizing this position, that kelly's an extremist, the way he has followed the president's orders and executed his wishes. what's your take? >> i find it hard he will function in the white house with the chaos it has, which some people have said is like animals in a zoo. in fact, when we've had meetings with him, he's told us that you, congress member, should not complain. and i found that that was an indication that he expected obedience. >> where were those meetings? what was the nature? >> these were meetings we had with concerns with what the homeland security was doing particularly deportations. >> was he receptive to what you were saying? >> no, he was not. help said that the people in homeland security are obeying the law and if you have any complaints, then you should change the law. >> okay. i'm curious to get your take on all the transition in the white house. you've got sean spicer, out.

reince priebus, out now. they have experience in the political world. they were washington insiders. now we have an outsider, scarmucci, coming in. do you think that is what the american people had in mind when they voted the president into office? >> they expected the white housed an at a minimum to be functional. one person is being ouchted after the other. these people are being pitted against one another. and they're saying things that are totally inappropriate for the american public. >> all right. let's go now to health care. i want to get your take to some comments that were said to me by senator franken about the senate health care bill's failure. let's take a listen to what he had to say on that. >> everything they proposed was terrible. everything they proposed took insurance away from millions and millions and millions of americans and raised costs. it may be the best thing to happen to them.

that senators collins and murkowski and mccain voted against. >> do you agree? do you think republicans, politically speaking, are better off this bill has failed, at least to this point? >> they would have suffered such a setback from the american public once 32 million people had lost their health care. in a way, they were saved by this vote. and so many people would have suffered. i am so glad that this vote went the way it did. >> okay. i'd like to also ask you about some new comments from the deputy assistant to the president sebastian gorka and that would be explaining the reasoning behind the military transgender ban. >> we need to help those people. we don't need to try to force them into the hierarchy military environment where they are under the utmost pressure to kill on are killed, and that is why the president is doing this, out of the warmth of his consideration for this population.

>> how do you read that? is that your take on things? >> i think there is a reason the generals are not implementing this transgender ban right away. i think it will create great chaos in the military and will possibly result in so many people being targeted that are serving right now. >> all right, congresswoman judy chu of southern california, thank you. a former presidential candidate is protesting the missile defense system. hello, this is adt,

is everything ok? i could hear crackling in the walls, and my mind went totally blank. all i remember saying was, "my boyfriend's beating me" and she took it from there. when a fire is going on, you're running around, you're not thinking clearly, so they called the fire department for us. and all of this occurred in four minutes or less. within five minutes. i am absolutely grateful we all made it out safely. it's kind of one of those things

you can't even... you cant even thank somebody. people you don't know actually care about you. to protect what you love, call 1-800-adt-cares it's about moving forward, not back.t. it's looking up, not down.

it's being in motion. in body, in spirit, in the now. boost® high protein it's intelligent nutrition with 15 grams of protein and 26 vitamins and minerals. for when you need a little extra. boost® the number one high protein complete nutritional drink. be up for it show of force. the response to north korea's latest missile launch. how will this tit-for-tat exchange end? i can about my culture. i put the gele on my head and i looked into the mirror and i was trying not to cry. because it's a hat, but it's like the most important hat i've ever owned. discover the story only your dna can tell.

order your kit now at ancestrydna.com. oscwe went back toing bithe drawing board...s. and the cutting board. we removed the added nitrates and nitrites, by-products, and artificial preservatives in all of our meat. every. single. one. why? for the love of hot dogs. i'm leaving you, wesley. but why? you haven't noticed me in two years. i was in a coma. well, i still deserve appreciation. who was there for you when you had amnesia? you know i can't remember that. stop this madness. if it's appreciation you want you should both get snapshot from progressive. it rewards good drivers with big discounts on car insurance. i have news. i've used most of our cellular data. come on, susan lucci! ♪ when heartburn hits fight back fast with new tums chewy bites. fast relief in every bite. crunchy outside. chewy inside.

tum tum tum tum new tums chewy bites. 40 million americans are waking up to a gillette shave. and at our factory in boston, 1,200 workers are starting their day building on over a hundred years of heritage, craftsmanship and innovation. today we're bringing you america's number one shave at lower prices every day. putting money back in the pockets of millions of americans. as one of those workers, i'm proud to bring you gillette quality for less, because nobody can beat the men and women of gillette. gillette - the best a man can get.

there you're looking at the city of angels. msnbc live comes to you from the brokaw news center here in los angeles. happening right now, the u.s.

has conducted a successful missile defense test from alaska in addition to what you're seeing there, those bombers over north korea in a show of force. as tensions escalate in the region. as north korea's friday's launch which set off alarms in the west. now joining us from seoul, south korea. >> the u.s. has confirmed a successful test of the thaad missile defense system in alaska. as well, two u.s. b1b bombers. they did a low overpass, over the osan air base here in south korea before returning to guam. this is all meant as a show of force against north korea. since about 48 hours ago, its test of a ballistic missile that experts believe could reach major u.s. cities. the problem of course is that there still isn't a clear u.s.

strategy to deal with north korea and that's causing anxiety in asia. as well, there seems to be some unhe's among u.s. allies that perhaps america won't be there to back them up. it's effectively triggering an arms build-up. south korea confirmed its entering talks to get stronger missiles. the president has ordered the rapid deployment of defense systems he suspended in may. as well japan is looking to add to its missile defenses. all of this build-up is going to infuriate china. which has already been reluctant to help the u.s. try to rein in north korea and u.s./china diplomacy is not going to be helped at all by those tweets by president trump earlier today. where he openly and publicly tried to shame china doing something. diplomatically and securitywise, there really is a lot of instability and no clear path forward, alex.

>> all right, from south korea, thank you. just back from south korea protesting against the u.s. missile defense system is former presidential candidate jill stein. stars and stripes reports that dr. stein let a group of high-profile activists, saying the defense system is more likely to stoke a conflict then protect people from a north korea attack. dr. stein is joining me from massachusetts. nice to see you again on the broadcast. >> good to be here. >> let's get this the thaad, so this is not an offensive system, right, this is a missile defense system? so why do you have a problem with it? >> the same thing was said about the patriot missile. it does very well under laboratory test conditions. these are not real-world combat conditions where actually the missiles, the incoming missiles, have a very chaotic course. and where decoys can be used,

where there are a variety of circumstances that really change the effectiveness of that so-called defensive missile system and the patriot missile before the gulf war had perfect tests, but it was thought to be actually zero out of 44 missiles used that actually struck the incoming missile in exactly the right spot, given the different kind of trajectory that you have under real-world circumstances. so it's the reason the thaad missile system, that's what it's called, the thaad missile defense system, is so objected to by the people of south korea is that it is very destabilizing. it destabilizes the balance of power in that region. china understandably feels like this is a massive radar system being brought in under a trojan horse. the trojan horse is missile defense. which it doesn't really accomplish. but the reality is it brings in

a very powerful radar system that can be used essentially to surveil china. >> well, look, it's hard to know exactly how this will be used in the future but what we do know is these tests are being conducted to try to perfect or at least get a really darn high percentage of being able to hit an incoming missile to the united states and keep it from attacking anywhere in our country. >> so the track record, the track record actually of these missile defense systems is great when they're done in single missile shot tests elsewhere. but when they're done under battlefield conditions, their track record is actually abysmal. the reality is it's a very powerful radar system which the people object to because they don't want to be subjected to these powerful radar radiation. but in addition, it destabilizes. it's a radar system that's being used to surveil china, and the bottom line is it's a boondoggle

for the weapons industry, which is making out with hundreds of billions of dollars on a weapons system that has an abysmal track record under real battlefield conditions. >> but look, south korea relies on the united states to help keep it safe. they want our protection. and so would you have us not implement something? i mean, what is the alternative? >> well, as is really clear from the lead-in to our segment here, this system of attempting to coerce north korea is not working. and we're having sort of a tradeoff now of provocations between south korea and the united states versus north korea. in particular what north korea has a problem with are these war exercises which are basically bombing runs. they are mock nuclear attacks. first strike nuclear attacks. which are being rehearsed by south korea and the united states. so this is very frightening.

the u.s. has had a policy of a first nuclear strike against north korea. we've had that first strike policy. we've been rehearsing that first strike. so any country in their right mind is going to want to develop a nuclear weapon. but the good thing, the really good thing, is that north korea, as well as china, and russia, have consistently put on the table the offer to suspend any further nuclear test or any further missile test in exchange for the u.s. and south korea suspending their war games. then we can sit down and actually have a diplomatic solution. >> you trust that? you trust that verbiage saying, oh, we'll suspend things? if you don't do that, we'll do that. >> well, absolutely, the provocations on both sides. that's why you have an equal first step on both sides. these are just a moratorium. and let's see if they're held up.

if that moratorium is not observed, we just go right back into it. if the moratorium is observed, then we move forward. the advantage is that it's north korea not alone. it's also with china and russia saying the same thing. where in a cold war situation right now and there is no way forward here that doesn't basically escalate a very dangerous conflict. not just for the korean peninsula. this involves all of us. the exchange of nuclear weapons on the korean peninsula basically creates nuclear winter which would kill hundreds of millions of people around the world. >> oh, absolutely, the thing is, though, i listen to you, dr. stein, is sounds as if you are supporting the positions of the north korea/russia/china alliance over that of the united states. >> actually, i'm supporting here the position of the south korea people who have been very clear what they want. they are tired of war. you know, they don't even have a peace treaty. the coukorean war is still on.

and especially in south korea. have lived under the threat of war for decades now. they're really tired of it. they would like to move ahead by negotiating a peace treaty and, you know, the demonization of north korea is part of the run-up to regime change. we saw it in iraq, we saw it in libya. it's part of the demonizing a government that we then want to exercise regime change on and then what do we get, you know. look at our track record here, it's not so good. we're supporting the south korean people who are actually living with problem -- >> they are. they have been living with this problem since the mid-1950s certainly. >> that's right. >> we're well aware of that. it's the north koreans have added the provocation in launching missiles. >> remember where that came from. long before they began their missile test, the u.s. was conducting nuclear bombing runs against north korea. we actually had nuclear weapons until the end of the cold war.

we actually had nuclear weapon stationed in south korea so this is very frightening to them. they've been basically cornered into feeling like they have to develop a nuclear weapon. >> as we try to look forward here, the white house, the house and the senate, they have voted to impose new sanctions on north korea as well as iran and russia. do you think the president should sign that? >> no, i don't. i don't think congress should have passed it. because the sanctions basically play right into russia's hand. we know that sanctions only strengthen a leader and, like putin, make him sort of the protector against the eagle united states. and when you look at what's actually going on here, you know, sanctions are not the solution to protecting our elections system. first of all, the evidence is not definitive, it's circumstantial that it's the russians, but in any case, we know that lots of people are waiting to walk through the very open door of the u.s. elections

system. we need to start protecting our elections through proper cybersecurity processes and using paper ballots that can't be hacked. >> with all due respect, your voice is a lone voice in those that have spoken with me and, really, a lone voice in those i've read about. most people are saying that there is zero good option on dealing with north korea. it is a very difficult situation. diplomacy has a multitude of challenges to be -- to work out. >> but it hasn't been tried. and actually it was used by the clinton administration and the -- >> you're saying the white house, senate, house, they have not tried to use diplomacy? >> not since the clinton era, we have not tried diplomacy since the clinton era. because this offer has been on the table from north korea for at least two years. and obama has basically just dismissed it. so it's very important for us to act on this offer. it's clear we don't have good

options otherwise. coercion is not working. seoul, a city of 25 million people, is in the cross hairs here. and whether it's conventional artillery that could be used by the north, you know, 64,000 people would die in the first day if we run into the actual outbreak of hostilities. so we don't have a choice, you know, we have to try, we have to give this a try. it hasn't been tried. north korea, china and russia have basically put this forward. we have nothing to lose. this is essentially a freeze for a freeze. let's give it a try. it's worked before. it's certainly working in iran. we need to move forward with diplomacy. >> look, i think we all can agree that we would like to have a peaceful solution as a result of all the tumult there in that area of the world. but how we get there i suppose is up for discussion still. thank you for your contribution, jill stein. >> thank you for your time.

managing blood sugar is a series of smart choices. and when you replace one meal...

...or snack a day with glucerna... ...made with carbsteady... ...to help minimize blood sugar spikes... ...you can really feel it. now with 30% less carbs and sugars. glucerna.

you're not taking these. hey, hey, hey! you're not taking those. whoa, whoa! you're not taking that. come with me. you're not taking that. you're not taking that. you're not taking that. mom, i'm taking the subaru. don't be late. even when we're not there to keep them safe, our subaru outback will be. (vo) love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru.

the president certainly has the right to choose whomever he wants to be on his personal staff, but i certainly hope that his new communications director strikes a different tone than he has in his first week on the job. >> republican senator susan collins, a little bit leery of new white house communications director anthony scarmucci as new chief of staff general john kelly takes command tomorrow. after one of the most tumultuous weeks of the trump presidency so far. various press accounts of the white house provide a picture of turmoil and dysfunction. are they fair? joining us now, katrina pierson who served as a senior political strategist and national spokeswoman for the trump campaign. thanks for joining me, we have a lot to get to. let's start with the shake-up here at the white house which

"the new york times" has called west wing at war with itself, egged on by a president who thrives on conflict and chaos. so after all of the recent tumult, is that a fair depiction? >> well, i don't think so, because i have been there from the beginning and i've been hearing these reports of chaos and turmoil from the beginning. i do think it would be best for a lot of the media to move on from what they consider the standard. this president incoming said i'm going to be unpredictable, i'm going to be bold. we went through three management changes during the campaign. this is nothing new for this president. and i think this particular decision definitely shows a pivot and a seriousness to get on with his agenda. >> look, you've been an insider. what is it like to live through it? you're saying you heard the records, but you've lived through it, what is it like? >> a lot of this is generated by the media. of course the president has people come in and speak to him and hear different points of view. that's what you want. as someone who's going to make a

decision, you want to make sure they hear all angles of the argument. so i think that a lot of this quote/unquote turmoil is being generated by the media. of course, anthony scarmucci's supposed off the record discussion just added to that. >> but, who is on solid ground? is anyone on solid ground with this president? >> well, i think job security obviously is important. when you're on a mission to make america great again, you have to be on his mission. if the president for any reason believes you are not on his mission, than you no longer have job security. i think one of the things we'll see moving forward, particularly with general kelly, i believe a lot of people think somehow this is going to change the president and they are sadly mistaken. i believe general kelly understands his mission as the right-hand of the president, is going to restore order within the white house and to get some of those appointments through because we do have an aggressive agenda that was laid out during

the campaign and the president wants to be successful. >> so the conservative "wall street journal" editorial board has written that priebus was not the problem, saying that shuffling of the staff furniture won't matter unless mr. trump accepts the white house problem isn't mr. priebus, it is him. presidents get the white house operations they want and mr. trump has a chaotic mess because he seems to like it. he likes pitting faction against faction. the reason mr. priebus wasn't as effective as he could have been is because mr. trump wouldn't listen to him and wouldn't let him establish a normal decision making process. if this katrina, is coming from "the wall street journal," does it make you agree more a bit? >> no, not at all. we'll take opinions all day long. at the end of the day, we're talking about donald trump. someone who has been very successful on the outside. he's going to be successful on the inside. his management style has been the same from the very beginning and for those who don't understand that, i highly

suggest reading "the art of the deal." he has a personality, a strong personality, and a strong character. none of us have a problem with his management style. particularly those that have been around for a very long time. if you support the president and his agenda, there are no problems with regards to personnel. >> but, katrina, does a business management style translate well into washington? i mean, the first six months would suggest no. >> well, i do. i do believe that. however, when everyone's on the same page, which i don't think in this case it was in the beginning, look, the president operated in good faith by working with the republican establishment, thinking they were on his team to repeal and replace obamacare. come to find out, that's just not the case. so he has decided to make a change for the better to get everyone back on the same page to move forward with that agenda. >> let's talk about anthony scarmucci's little dustup, that profani profanity-infussed tirade.

axios is saying the president loved it. how can the president condone such language? you're a conservative. do you condone that kind of language? >> el with, the president has not come out and said that. that was just i'm assuming someone's opinion. we just don't know what the president thought about that, at least at this point in time. but i do think that people who believe that they are speaking in private have the right to express themselves in any way they seem fit, whether i condone it or not. >> but katrina, he was not speaking in private, he was speaking to a reporter he knew was on the record. the new yorker has said that scarmucci agreed it was on the record. there may have been one small part off the record which he has honored. but they agreed this was an on the record interview. he used this kind of language. okay, we may not hear the president, what he has agree to, but you as a conservative, i can tell you me as a mom, i was, like, are you kidding me? >> well, i think it's a he said/she said at this point. if anthony assumed he was off the record. at the same time, when you're having what you purchase sieve

as a private conversation, i don't have any problem with the way anyone wants to express themselves, whether i condone it or not. >> okay, even if it was a private conversation and i'm going to move on after i ask this question, do you condone it? that kind of language, that kind of way of communicating, is that effective, is it an effective way for the head of the white house communications to characterize your colleagues? >> what i will say, i've spent a lot of time in new york and have heard this language from many people. i personally don't speak that way but that's my personal choice. other than that, i've got to say, i'm a big supporter of freedom of speech and i believe people should be able to express themselves best way they see fit. >> okay. i don't know if i choose to be around people that speak like that in professional mannerisms, okay if it works for you, katrina. >> thank you. >> great conversations we'll have you back again. >> thank you. >> the trump effect goes hollywood. why you'll see the president

like never before. but will he like it? twice a day. common side effects include eye irritation, discomfort or blurred vision when applied to the eye, and unusual taste sensation. don't touch container tip to your eye or any surface. remove contacts before using xiidra and wait at least 15 minutes before reinserting. chat with your eye doctor about xiidra. i'm proud to make dog chow in (vodavenport, iowa.an. dog chow's been a part of my family's life for over 40 years. my grandfather made it and now i'm making it. as a micro-biologist i ensure that dog chow leads with high quality ingredients. 40 million americans are waking up to a gillette shave. and at our factory in boston, 1,200 workers are starting their day

building on over a hundred years of heritage, craftsmanship and innovation. today we're bringing you america's number one shave at lower prices every day. putting money back in the pockets of millions of americans. as one of those workers, i'm proud to bring you gillette quality for less, because nobody can beat the men and women of gillette. gillette - the best a man can get.

the trump effect is coming to tv. showtime will announce a cartoon series i am mortalizing the president. the unnamed half hour series will be created one of the president's critics, stephen colbert. joining me in the studio, always good to talk with you, best way to close out the show talking to you. >> welcome to hollywood. that's why we're here. >> i appreciate that. before we get to this new show, how do you think we've seen donald trump represented or misrepresented in first six months of his administration? >> first of all, the immediate reaction has been the late night shows. the daily show, all of them. of course they are reacting day by day and you've seen the stuff like that. we've seen in other places like recently in house of cards and homeland with references to thungz like travel bans and

we've seen some people like to read between the tea lives like "game of thrones", and walking dead but that's people looking forlityreality, is stuff pepper in at the last minute. everybody thought hillary was winning the election and had to scramble to rewrite scripts, what bewe're going to see, dona trump branded on the culture. you're seeing hollywood interpret this trump administration, is it done comedically or dramatically? >> i've seen most comedically, the carmichael show, they talked a bit about trump and other likes that. i think going forward, the ro san revival, what trump voters are. i think you're going to see things like marbles the runa

ways which looks at traditional authority breaking down and becoming the enemy and s.w.a.t. those are narratives right out of the trump administration and jeff sessions talking points. going forward i think in drama, you'll see a lot of difference. this now -- he's embedded in the culture. this is not just finding little bits here and there. w gm america's underground, about the underground railway in the precivil war period. this an excellent episode called minty, about harriet tubman. at one point the tubman character referred to wanting to make america great again. that's obvious. but that stuff was here and there. now in dramas we're going to see donald trumps really part of the culture. are you going to have to say his name? no, are you going to talk about the world he has created which we're all living in? this is a world where literally look at the last week, look at friday, what happened on friday, if you had put that on the west

wing or homeland people would go, so unrealistic. that's the reality today. >> thanks to hollywood we have a lot to look forward to. thanks to giving to us through deadline and on my show. that's going to do it for me this hour. thanks for watching. up next, "meet the press" on all of the white house chaos. stay with us. prevagen helps your brain and actually improves memory. the secret is an ingredient originally discovered... in jellyfish. in clinical trials, prevagen has been shown to improve short-term memory. prevagen. the name to remember. when you think what comes to mind? your next getaway? connecting with family and friends? a big night out? or maybe your everyday shopping.

whatever it is, aarp member advantages can help save you time and money along the way. so when you get there, you can enjoy it all the more. for less. surround yourself with savings at aarp advantages dot com. ...is not just something you can see or touch. home...is a feeling. it's the place where you feel safe to have those little moments that mean everything. at adt, we believe that feeling should always be there. whether it's at your house, or your business, we help keep you safe. so you can have those moments that make you feel at home. ♪you are loved wherever you are.

the uncertainties of hep c. wondering, what if? i let go of all those feelings. because i am cured with harvoni. harvoni is a revolutionary treatment for the most common type of chronic hepatitis c. it's been prescribed to more than a quarter million people. and is proven to cure up to 99% of patients who have had no prior treatment with 12 weeks. certain patients can be cured with just 8 weeks of harvoni. before starting harvoni, your doctor will test to see if you've ever had hepatitis b, which may flare up and cause serious liver problems during and after harvoni treatment. tell your doctor if you've ever had hepatitis b, a liver transplant, other liver or kidney problems, hiv or any other medical

conditions and about all the medicines you take including herbal supplements. taking amiodarone with harvoni can cause a serious slowing of your heart rate. common side effects of harvoni include tiredness, headache and weakness. ready to let go of hep c? ask your hep c specialist about harvoni. this sunday, the chaos presidency. in the west wing, reince priebus, white house chief of staff, out. >> i think it's a good time this sunday, the chaos presidency. in the west wing, reince priebus, white house chief of staff, out. >> i think it's a good time to hit the reset button. >> john kelly, the head of homeland security, in. >> general kelly has been a star, done an incredible job. >> in the cabinet, president trump goes after attorney general jeff sessions. >> i am disappointed in the attorney general. >> republicans push back. >> if jeff sessions is fired, there will be holy hell to pay. >> this morning an inside look at how president t