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you. i said, you sit down, you've had your turn to talk. it looked terrible on television. >> authenticity to a point. >> you have to respect everybody even the ones that are a pain in the butt. >> howard dean, that's a good summary of electoral politic. >> yes it is. >> rachel maddow show starts right now. >> good evening, chris. thanks to you at home for joining us this hour. here in our offices at 30 ro rockefeller center, in our office closet, actually, we have sort of randomly, a really hideous, complete set of kitchen canisters. aren't they lovely? like in the closet that's like a normal office closet we've got spare umbrellas and jackets that people forgot about and stuff left here by people that don't work here any more. then right in the middle of all the jackets, umbrellas, old props, in the middle of all of it, boom, a full set of mushroom
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ornamented baby poop colored made in china ugly kitchen cannisters. they take up a lot of space, but i can't get rid of them. we bought these hideous kitchen canisters when a producer on our staff stumbled upon them while out shopping and realized, photographic memory, that these were an exact match to one of the best campaign ad props thus far in the 21st century. look. here they are. see? over her right hoorl? there they are in the wild. these exact same canisters were the folksy kitchen scene backdrop behind a republican candidate named sharon engel when she clutched a coffee cup and announced her political comeback. sharon engel and canisters showing that there's really nothing to be scared of when it comes to her. forget all what you think you know about sharon engel. she's back. folksy this time, drinking coffee. the mushroom canisters were her
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comeback and rebranding bid in which she tried to get back into politics and run for a congressional seat just a couple of months after she lost the race for a u.s. senate seat in nevada in 2010. in that race sharon engel took on the top democrat in the u.s. senate. she ran against majority leader harry reid. you remember that the last midterms, 2010, this was a wave year for republicans. taking out the top democrat in the senate would have been a cherry on top for them. they really thought they had a chance of taking out harry reid. harry reid had pretty bad numbers in nevada. republican groups, particularly the karl rove groups threw tons and ton of money against him in nevada, but their problem in the end was that their candidate was sharon engel. it wasn't so much that harry reid won that senate race in 2010, it was that sharon engel lost that race because sharon engel talked like this. >> you know, if this congress
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keeps going the way it is, people are really looking toward those second amendment remedies. they're saying, my goodness, what can we do to turn this country around? >> second amendment remedies. second amendment remedies was a common and repeated theme for sharon engel as a candidate for office. the idea of second amendment remedies was that if conservatives weren't going to get what they wanted in this country with the vote, they would use guns to get it instead. and that isn't me making any hyperbolic extension of what she was arguing, that's really what she was arguing. >> i feel that the second amendment is the right to keep and bear arms for our citizenry. this is not for someone who's in the military. this is not for law enforcement. this is for us. and in fact, when you read that constitution and the founding fathers, they intended this to stop tyranny. this is for us when our government becomes tier annical.
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>> if we needed it at any time in history, it might be right now. >> well, it's to defend ourselves. i hope that we're not getting to second amendment remedies. i hope the vote will be the cure for the harry reid problems. >> i sure hope the vote will be the cure for the harry reid problem, but if not, we'll get what we want with our second amendment remedies. we'll get what we want with our guns and ammunition. democrats had no business winning that senate race in nevada that year, but sharon angle threatening if they didn't get the election results they wanted, they would start shooting in order to get the results they wanted, that was enough to spook people who otherwise might have supported her. it was certainly enough to bewilder the local media had was just trying to cover her campaign. >> she told the assembled media she'd answer four questions, but refused to answer this question about this statement of her. if this congress keeps going the way it is people are really looking towards the second
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amendment recommend deese. what do you mean when you mean second amendment remedies? anything? we kept asking into the parking lot but receive no answer. why won't you answer what second amendment recommend deemedies m? nothing at all? a simple reaction. the reaction was swift. her spokesperson call this reporter an idiot and another term that cannot be repeated on television. >> a lot of things can be repeated on television. so no, sharon angle did not beat harry reid in 2010 even though the republicans won a ton of seats in the house that year, democrats did keep their hold on the senate in the last midterm in 2010 by quite a margin. since that huge republican disappointment in the last midterms in 2010, the way they blew it with the senate candidates like sharon angle, the republican party has been really desperately trying to avoid having another candidacy like that. regardless of how much the conservative media likes that
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kind of thing, you can't have candidates that are threatening to use guns to mount an armed revolt on the government if they don't get what they want from the political system. i'm sure it sounds awesome when you're on the fox news channel, again and again and again and again, it probably also sounds awesome if you're drunk in a bar and everybody in there is paying with gold nuggets and you're all survivalists or something. yeah! shoot the government! but you just can't run people like that for statewide office when they are claiming that the way they're planning on settling their political beliefs is shooting people. you can try to do that, but it's not going to work. i won't work in a statewide race. you ever met joni ernst? joni ernst is a republican state senator who is running for the u.s. senate in iowa. she's running against bruce braley. this is a high profile race because it's been tight as a tick for months. right now before election day joni ernst turns out to have a
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sharon angle problem. a piece of tape has emerged where joni ernst like sharon angle before her is threatening to turn to armed violence against the government if she doesn't get what she wants through the political process. this was first published by the huffington post. it shows joni ernst addressing the crowd at an nra event in 2012. >> i have a beautiful little smith & wesson, my millimeter and it goes with me virtually everywhere. i do believe in the right to carry. and i believe in the right to defend myself and my family, whether it's from an intruder or whether it's from a government should they decide that my rights are no longer important. i believe in my right to defend myself from the government with my beautiful little smith & wesson, 9 millimeter. this raises a specific question for this now u.s. senate candidate, in what situation
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exactly would you say that it is appropriate to use your beautiful little smith & wesson 9 millimeter to shoot government officials? we've reached out to the joni ernst campaign for comment starting several days ago, actually. we've so far not heard back. but this is not the first time that iowa senate candidate joni ernst has been seen advocating that conservatives ought to try to get what they want by mounting some sort of physical confrontation with the government. earlier this year talking points memo, joni ernst supports legislation to arrest anybody who tries to implement obamacare in that state. this is a survey distributed by the ron paul group, campaign for liberty. question five is will you support legislation to nullify obamakay and authorize state and local law enforcement to arrest federal officials attempting to implement the unconstitutional health care scheme known as
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obamacare? joni ernst answered yes to that question. yes. yes. yes, yes, yes. arrest federal officials trying to implement this federal law, this federal scheme, arrest them if they try to do it in iowa. so as i said, we do not have an answer from the joni ernst campaign as to when she believes it would be appropriate to shoot federal officials, but maybe you can extrapolate. if this iowa senate candidates advocates arresting federal officials who she watches trying to implement obama care in iowa, would that also be a circumstance which she believes you would be allowed to shoot them as well? can you also arrest them? or can you shoot them? what if they resist arrest? that's interesting for somebody who may be going to the u.s. senate. if you catch somebody telling iowa college students that they can stay on their parents'
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health insurance until they're 26, is that a shooting offense in joni ernst's iowa or would that just be an arresting offense. i know that's a stretch, but you can ask her that right now. if it's yes to arresting federal employees trying to implement obamacare but no to shooting them but she advocates shooting them, when is it is okay? >> i have a beautiful little smith & wesson 9 millimeter and it goes with me virtually everywhere, but i do believe in the right to carry. and i believe in the right to defend myself -- >> is going down the wire fp the latest nbc marist poll shows joni ernst leading, "the new
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york times" poll shows the two candidates tied. there's a quinnipiac poll that shows joni ernst up by four in iowa but a loris college poll that shows braley up by 1. we'll see if the shooting federal officials on our way to freedom comments affect this race if at all. but here's what's interesting. the joni ernst strategy right now is to not answer any local iowa questions about it. joni ernst in sort of a remarkable late stage move has decided to snub three of the biggest newspapers in the state of iowa. she refused to meet with the editorial boards from the des moines register and the cedar rapids gazette and the dubuque herald. most candidates sit down with editorial board. the editorial board posts a video of the conversation online. that's not only how people get to see the candidate in a
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setting, it helps them decide who they're going to endoers. bruce braley has sat down with the iowa papers but joni ernst turned them all down. the des moines register, she had extensive negotiations with the paper. she was scheduled to do her interview friday morning, but then at the last minute she bailed. asked whether this has ever happened before, a representative of the des moines register says, quote, never, not that i'm aware of. spokesperson for the cedar rapids gazette says, quote, i cannot recall a time that this has happened before. dubuque telegraph herald. quote, i don't think it has ever happened. and who knows if it's a coincidence but all three of those papers have now endorsed bruce braley, the democrat, over joni ernst in that hard-fought senate race. this race in iowa for a while looked like it was slipping away from the democrats, but it has now taken sort of an unexpected
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turn. as the republican candidate in the race has essentially tried to disappear from the local press and the local reporters. if we get an answer from joni ernst or from the joni ernst for senate campaign about which federal officials she wants to shoot and under what circumstances, we will let you know. i would say watch this space, but i know all your watching right now is these hideous kitchen canisters. this is kathleen. setting up the perfect wedding day starts with her minor arthritis pain, and two pills. afternoon arrives and feeling good, but her knee pain returns. that's two more pills. the evening's event brings laughter, joy, and more pain. what's that, like six pills today? yeah. .i could take two aleve for all day relief. really? for my arthritis pain, i now choose aleve. 2 pills. all day strong. all day long. and now introducing, aleve pm for a better am.
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here's a thing i don't understand. something weird happened in the great state of maine today. this morning six days before the election, 63,000 ballots have been sent in to be counted. this morning all of a sudden the independent candidate for governor in maine called a surprise press conference. this is the candidate eliot cutler who says he has no chance of winning. they've started hyping him in the ads in the hopes that he'll drain votes from the democrat in the race mike michaud. eliot cutler is not going to bin this time in maine. he's just going to split the anti-republican paul lepage vote so paul lepage gets re-elected. that's clear as day now six days before the election in maine. so it seemed like huge news today when independent eliot cutler called a last-minute press conference at his campaign headquarters. the general assumption was, okay, this is it, he can read
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the polls like everybody else, he's going to do it. he's going to drop out. what actually happened, though, is much less clear. the lead in the portland press herald after eliot cutler had said what he had to say today was this -- it's a good bet that many who watched eliot cutler's press conference today will be perplexed by his remarks. true that. >> the politics of fear and negative ads have returned with a vengeance beyond my imagine. i'm confident and hopeful, but i'm also a realist. i must also acknowledge the gripping fear that's riding many voters including many who wish i would become governor, instead to back one of my opponents, anyone who has supported me but who now worries that i cannot win and is thereby compelled by their fears or by their conscience to vote instead for
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mr. lepage or mr. michaud should do so. i ask my supporters to simply vote their consciences. i'm not standing down. vote for me. vote for me. vote for me. i am a realist about my chances. >> what just happened there? was that eliot cutler dropping out of the maine governor's race? that's a weird way to drop out. if that was dropping out what was all the vote for me stuff. his dpan put out a frequently asked question sheet after his press conference explaining what he meant. frequently asked questions, no, he's not dropping out of the race, but then what was that about? the cutler campaign called this press conference saying vote your conscience. they then put out the fact sheet saying that doesn't mean don't vote for eliot cutler. the democrats put out a statement afterwards saying cutler tells his supporters to go ahead and vote for other candidates. a group of prominent eliot
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cutler supporters followed his press conference this morning with their own in which they announce they're now switching their support away from eliot cutler and they'll now vote for the democrat mike michaud now that cutler is out of it now. but cutler went on campaigning in afternoon as if he was still running. then this afternoon his most important endorser, maine independent senator angus king, he unendorsed eliot cutler and threw his support to the democrat mike michaud. now president obama is coming to maine to support mike michaud and all the while half the state thinks that the independent guy, eliot cutler, the spoiler candidate, half the state thinks he just dropped out so it's now a two-man race. it seems that way but technically eliot cutler didn't really drop out today. it seemed like he was, but then he said that he wasn't. people thought he did. did he? in one very clear way, he didn't get out today. and it turns the out this is
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important. because had eliot cutler taken his name out of the running today formally with the secretary of state's office in maine, then anyone who cast their ballot for him among the 53,000 voters who already voted in the state, if he formally took his name out of the running today, then those 50,000 voters would have gotten a chance to pick somebody else because their candidate was out of the race, but he didn't formally take his name out whatever other confusion he called today. 53,000 people who may have voted, if you voted for eliot cutler, you voted for a guy who may or may not be running. he's staying in sort of. what's going on in maine? i don't get it. joining us is a columnist with the portland press herald will help hopefully help us understand this. nice to see you. >> you, too, rachel, how are you? >> i'm bewildered. >> aren't we all? >> i thought i followed all these factual developments today.
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i watched the press conference. i saw what angus king did, i saw the way the democrats spun it, i saw the way the cutler campaign spun it. i can follow all the facts. i have no idea what happened today. what happened? >> our heads are still spinning. we went down to the press conference expecting that this would be either a total withdrawal or at least a suspension of the campaign. those of us who followed eliot cutler these past several years know that he is -- he answers to one person and that's eliot cutler. unfortunately, right now, he's looking more and more like an army of one and he's going to stick with this thing. what's happening at the same time, however, is people don't feel that they need elliott's permission to migrate away from him and in most cases right now toward mike michaud. they're very much voting with their feet. it appears right now that if this goes on until tuesday, elliott cutler is going to become more and more -- almost a
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caricature of himself by the day. angus king's withdrawal of his endoersment today really sealed the deal. that was something that was highly touted by the cutler campaign early on. angus made this statement today not by eliot's side but on an rv trip to places unknown. nobody's really seen him much. it's safe to say that the cutler campaign is imploding right now, and that's happening much to the benefit of mike michaud. >> in terms of whether or not he implodes obviously or implodes technically, still a metaphor but technically in the sense that he actually takes his name off the ballot. would that matter? i'm struck by the fact that 53,000 people in maine have taken the time to vote and sent in absentee ballots. if cutler did formally take his name off the pal ot, would that have a bigger impact than whatever it is that happened today? >> well, i think everybody
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agrees this is going to be a very close race. so yes, literally every vote counts here. eliot has long crusaded against this early absentee voting. he feels it cost him the election in 2010 when a lot of people who voted for the democrat libby mitchell later had voter's remorse, that she plummeted the way she did. so it's kind of ironic, eliot is an opponent to this, but i think what we don't know hout of those 53,000 is how many of them heeded his advice through this campaign to not vote early. my guess is if you had to divide them three ways, at least the cutler early voters are probably in the minority among the three candidates. would it matter? it very well could. this race was decided by somewhere around 10,000 votes back in 2010. so when you get down to those small numbers, yeah, it could have an impact. but as you said, right now those people are out of luck as long
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as he remains a formal candidate and doesn't notify the secretary of state that he's withdrawing, those people cannot get their ballots back. >> whatever you think about paul lepage and his politics and everything else, he's a man who had an ancestor in a previous life did something great that earned him totally, totally chaotic opponents so he can win elections that are otherwise unwinnable. this is a lot of fun. thanks for helping us understand it. >> sure. >> so the price of gasoline is falling right now, which means your uncle who watches fox news all day should be this close to the boiling point by now about that. sounds weird because it is. on purpose. that's coming up. they're still after me. get to the terminal across town. are all the green lights you? no. it's called grid iq. the 4:51 is leaving at 4:51. ♪ they cut the power.
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the thing over my shoulder says slightly nsfw. nsfw means not safe for work. so if you're watching at work or if you're watching in front of someone who you don't want to see somebody poking out from under the covers with obvious implications about what he was doing under the covers, then you do not want to see this next thing that i'm going to show you. that's my fair warning, okay? i'll wait. okay. all right. here's that thing. here's what the campaign is like right now in one of the tightest senate races in the country in the last few days before election day. this is actually two 15-second ads butted up against each other. i've never quite seen anything like this.
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>> if cory gardner gets his way, you better stock up on condoms. >> pro choice colorado has done that. the stock up on condoms part of that ad, is turning out to be a very big part of the argument right now about what's going on in colorado. stay with us. we'll have to go to the man cave on this one. thanks. ♪ [ male announcer ] over time, you've come to realize... [ starter ] ready! [ starting gun goes off ] [ male announcer ] it's less of a race... yeah! [ male announcer ] and more of a journey. keep going strong. and as you look for a medicare supplement insurance plan...
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there's a lot of art all over the place. i always laugh that they have cows up because the people who came here and found gold and silver and became incredibly wealthy hated the cowtown, denver's a cow town, now we're a cow town. >> now we're art about cow town. >> there you go. >> i got to say as a pedestrian, i feel a little bit slighted by the orientation of this piece. >> why? >> couldn't they turn the cow -- i mean, you're walking past eye level from this angle. i don't know. i feel like -- >> come in from this way. >> that's the south end of a northbound cow. >> standing at the wrong end of
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the horse and wearing a black cowboy hat. metaphors that never work in any election in any state. >> here's my question, last time he ran for governor, didn't he lose by 17 points. >> 17 percentage points. i think it was much greater because denver's election was so flawed hundreds couldn't vote. the machines jammed. >> how did he lose by 17 points, sit out a couple cycles, come back and then you're in it. okay, fellas, time for a trip to the man cave. pop open a nonalcoholic beer, smoking is allowed, but only if it's something really manly like a giant cigar or perhaps a corn cob pipe. i know, i know i'm mannish, and that's not the same thing as actually being a man, but that's why i have the o'douls and the wood paneling behind me, to set you at ease. let's talk about a thing that's going on in this election, guys.
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a thing that can really only be discussed comfortably in a man-friendly space. and this thing is in part about bob beauprez, he's running for governor in colorado. but this may be where you need to drink the beer. we need to behold the egg. we got to go to the man cave to talk about this stuff. behold the egg nestled in a little tube. gentlemen, this is the other team. this is the lady people. so here's the home team. here's you guys, the sperm, which we're going to represent here with a paisley pattern also known as persian pickles. balance the ploet on your belly. we're going to go live here. behold the actual sperm represented through the ables in medical literature as the heroic, brave, unstoppable night, charging forth, harpooning the egg with its spermy fertileness and although
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we have heroic ideas about sperms, every permanent is sacred, every one is a bold little knight. et turns out they're not as hardy as we like to think they are. i don't mean this as a statement on guys, or in a way that will make you feel pressured. it's not a metaphor. it's just science. sperm are weak, they can be dissuaded from their noble task. that's really how it works really. >> fertilization is no joke. it's not that easy, you know, to go through all the biochemical processes for the sperm to get actually up to the egg and fertilize the egg and for the egg then to get where it needs to be within the certain time limit. just messing it up a little bit really disrupts the whole process. >> they're fragile. i know, it's news that can be upsetting to hear even when you get it from a nice lady doctor named stephanie teal.
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she's been a real leader in the specific part of family med lin helping young women and girls not get knocked up when they don't want to get knocked up. colorado is actually a national success story about that. that state has really brought down it teen birth rate significantly. and one surprising thing is the way that they've done it is in part with the type of birth control that used to be marketed basically just to middle aged housewives. turns out that it makes a lot of sense for young women as well. >> you know, it's funny because traditional traditionally, again, that really wasn't the population that we were thinking about with iuds. it really was initially marketed as something for married women who have had, you know, a couple of kids. but again, we're really trying to turn the paradigm on its head that, instead of having to do something every single day to stay nonpregnant, let's do one
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thing, make nonpregnant the default state, then when you want to get pregnant, great, come on in, start your prenatals, we'll take out your iud or implant and you're all set to get pregnant. the fertility rate returns the next month with both the implant and the iuds. so why not make it something that's really easy to do? young people have such complex lives. you know, sometimes i'm at my mom's, sometimes i'm at my dad's, sometimes at my apartment, sometimes at my boyfriend's apartment, i have two part-time jobs and go to school. try to take a pill at the same time every day, forget about it. that's why we see the failure rate of pills, patch and ring are actually twice as high for women under 21 as women over 21. it's not that the pharmacology is different and somehow the medicine doesn't work in young people, it's that it's complex to use. >> the iud helps them not get
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pregnant. >> absolutely. so this program where we've been able to give out over 30,000 free iuds and implants in colorado, you know, dropping the pregnancy rate like we're talking about, it really gives women the opportunity to have the family they want when they want it. it's good for women, it's good for families. >> what happens to women's health in colorado if the iud goes away? >> if the iud goes away, then basically women are back to condoms, pills, patch and ring. the failure rate is higher. the ongoing cost is high. and women don't have the opportunity to choose one of the absolutely most effective, easily reversible, easy to use methods of birth control. >> so colorado had this huge public health success, really
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reducing the teen birth rate because they've been using reversible contraception including the iud. but now the reason it is worth asking if the iud is going away in colorado is because, you ya, maybe at the medical level it's a winner there, dropped the teen birth rate by 40%. that's the medical part of the story but at the political level this very popular, very successful very tiny form of contraception is a huge issue in this year's election because there's a political effort in colorado to make it go away in that state. colorado voters for the third time this year will be voting on something called personhood which would ban all abortion and some forms of contraception. it has lost by 40 points or more the last time it was on the ballot. but they've got it on the pal ot again. remarkable to thing you can be a viable candidate for office if you supported something that lost twice in the state by 40
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points. both the senate race and governor's race is tied and in both races the republican candidate has supported or sponsored person hood legislation. with that on the ballot and colorado having great success in reducing the birth rate now at dude-friendly venues now what the campaign is about is talking about stuff like the iud. >> so the devil might be in the details but i think it's an extremely important distinction to draw and understand to respect both the taxpayers' will and the technology you've referred to. did i answer your question? >> we're talking about implants and iuds. i don't think they fit that -- >> iud is an abort ta fashent. that's the governor's race in colorado this year. i'm not a scientist, but it is possible to find scientists and
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to ask them about these thins. the whole bob beauprez idea that it should be banned because it is an important because if you've got an iud in you you're a walking abortion clinic having abortions all the time, turns out bob beauprez is not supported by the science in that assertion. i want to ask you a question about iud. >> sure. >> because that's something that people debate. some people when they talk about iuds, opponents of iuds describe it as almost we're sort of an ongoing abortion clinic in your body. can you help me with that? >> that's just not true. so the way iuds work is they actually stop sperm. so the copper iud releases copper ions continually into the fluid inside the uterus. so when sperm swim up in there, they're basically pelted with
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copper ions which destroy their cell membrane and don't let them get up in the fallopian tubes which is where they're heading to meet the egg. the way the projest been iud works is it causes the cervix to make a thick plug of mucus that the sperm can't get through. both of them act to prevent fertilization. >> why do people continue to argue that the iud is an abortificient or is causing an abortion all the time. >> i don't know. ipg the people arguing about it really are politicians and they thrive on difference. there's not really any argument about it in the medical community. >> none? because in the medical community you will find argument about whether people will or will not end pregnancies or whatever, but in terms the of what an iud is,
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that's settled. >> that's settled. >> and it's not an abortion clinic in your body. >> it's not an abortion clinic in your body. >> but the claim that it is appears on the ballot in multiple ways right now in the state of colorado. there's bob beauprez tied for colorado governor saying he'd like to ban abortion in all circumstances and the iud is an portion, too. that's on the ballot in the sense that he is on the ballot in colorado. then there's the personhood ballot itself which is asking voters for the third time to ban abortion and ban birth control because they think that some forms of birth control or abortion even though birth control is popular and widely accepted and widely used. you don't need a man cave to tell you that. also birth control is not abortion. all the science fiction that's been dumped into the politics this year you might need a doctor to sort that out. >> every so often a patient will become concerned and say to me, well, you know, i just was
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wondering the iud sounds great for me but does it cause abortion. i explain to them how it works. and, you know, we have a discussion around that. so i would say one thing that the political debate has done is maybe confused women a little bit, and i'm glad that my patients at least have the opportunity to talk to me about it. obviously, some people still don't have a health care provider they can get to answer these questions. >> we heard that same kind of thing this week in colorado from the people who were working to stop the personhood amendment from passing there. they told us that much of their campaign is really about explaining to people that this whole personhood thing is designed to ban not just abortion but the birth control that helps you from getting pregnant in the first place. >> longer conversations and actually help them understand the dangers of it. they're pretty appalled and a lot of them get angry and a lot of them say i wasn't going to
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vote before, but i think i'm going to vote now. definitely count on my vote. >> that will be heard in colorado this week, politics meet science. it's almost never an even match. i'll be right back. >> normally fertilization takes place while the egg is in the tube. here we can see this fe fertilization in closer view. after one sperm ma ta zoen enters the egg, none others enter
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worst unemployment rate in the nation under his leadership by denying that the unemployment numbers are real numbers. nathan deal has decided the only reason georgia's unemployment numbers appear to be so terrible is because of a conspiracy in washington to lie about those numbers in order to make nathan deal look bad. what? yes. >> i don't know how you come up with that. maybe there is some influence here that we don't know about. when you say that california is in a better position in terms of unemployment than the state of georgia, there's just something that is just not ringing true. >> it may not ring true to you, sir, but actually georgia's unemployment rate is way worse than california, worse than 49 other states and the district of columbia. it's terrible. worst in the nation. but georgia governor nathan deal trying to fend off the political cost of those numbers. he's denying the numbers are real. that's a tried and true, strategy, right? we've seen this before. it was roughly this time of year before the last elections in
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$3 a gallon. we're at a four-year low when it comes to the price of gas. and gas prices is one of those things that pundits love to talk about as something external to an election that should be an indicator of how the election is going to go. when gas prices are high, the president and his party tend to get blamed for high gas prices. when gas prices go down, usually people feel better about the party in power. gas prices as a stand-in for political analysis is sort of like, you know, making stuff up about elections 101. that's what you learn on the first day of pundit class. and republicans in the conservative media over the course of the obama presidency have bent over backwards to blame president obama anytime gas prices go up. and to remind anyone anytime there are high gas prices that those high gas prices mean that you should vote against the president and against democrats. >> he gets full credit or blame for what's happened in this economy. and what's happened to gasoline prices under his watch? >> what's frustrating about the
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obama administration's policies are, they've gone to great lengths to make oil and gas more expensive. >> gasoline prices are up 91%. >> gasoline prices nearly doubling since president obama took office. >> it was $1.84, $1.84 when president obama was inauguratinged back in january 2009. >> is it enough to derail his return to the office? >> it better be. >> look at these terribly high gas prices. it's all obama's fault. republicans in the conservative media have been staying that for years now. high gas prices equals vote against obama. so now there's a probable for that strategy, right? gas prices hit a four-year low. right into the election. what to do? republicans have been saying forever that president obama is responsible for gas prices, right? there's mitt romney saying president obama gets the full credit or blame for gas prices. okay, so credit then? the president is supposed to get credit for low gas prices now, right? a week before the election? that's a problem for the right.
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but don't worry, fox has got it covered. on the business version of fox news, look at their headline on this story about the unusually low gas prices right now. look at this. cheap gas hurts economy. s in genius. this was flagged by the website media matters. fox has now decided that actually low gas prices are a threat to america. is president obama purposefully tanking the economy with these unconsciousably low gas prices? hey, we report, you decide. fox has now decided that low gas prices are a bad thing. obama and his low gas prices hurting the economy. presto change-o, problem fixed. the right could have just decided they don't believe in low gas prices before the 2012 election. they could have decided the prices didn't exist.
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but this is even easier. they exist, but they're bad. these are a few of the other segments they did in the same hour on that fox show yesterday. look, gop win equals market rally? hey, we're just asking. they also did a segment on maryland's democratic governor, candidate for governor who's been slipping in the polls. could the nine-point swing in the polls be a result of president obama's appearance at a rally? see that question? just asking. there were those segments. and finally just a random picture of a shirtless republican senator popping his pecks. this was all in one hour. if you don't watch fox on a regular basis, i understand. but it is important to know this is what half the country is being told this is the news right now about the election. be mad about the low gas prices. they're hurting the economy. you're amazing. that does it for us tonight. we'll see you again tomorrow. now it's time for "the last word" with lawrence o'donnell. >> great show. i loved every minute of it, but it's very hard to