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a convicted sex offender becomes the victim of a brutal assault that leaves him unconscious and in the hospital. the assailants say the attack was warrantied. what they don't know might bring regrets. >> let me tell you the facts of the case and why i am so pissed
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off about it. >> a skinny white boy going to prison for gang members. >> he attempts to join a gang. his heart was elsewhere. >> dear mailman if this gets lost do not send it to me. send it to prison to my daddy. located on the edge of downtown tulsa, it looks like any other government building. but behind the walls of the tulsa county jail, things play out daily. >> let him go. >> the jailhouse as 1,800 men and women.
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most have been charged with crimes and are awaiting trial. >> unless they violate the rules or need to be segregated for security reasons, they spend the majority of the days outside their housing units. a single officer, completely exposed to the inmates, exposed in the pod. >> there is one officer in the pod at all times. just one. >> it's not about physical anymore, it's about maintaining control. they don't have weapons when they go to the pod. they are in the pod with 94 inmates, every day, all day. they are conversing with them, looking in the cells. >> we are going to treat you as a human until you prove you
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can't be. >> studies show it cuts down on inmate violence and it growing in popularity throughout jails nationwide. but this man would prove to be a magnet for violence. olson is talking to the pod you have a when he is brutally attacked. inmate rafael gonzalez begins the assault. gonzalez is joined by another inmate, nava. jail policy prevents the officer from attempting to break up the fight on his own. after about a minute into the assault, the orders are finally heeded. nava and gonzalez are immediately placed in disciplinary segregation cells where they will be locked up 23 hours a day and lose all privileges. olson's injuries are too severe
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to be treated on-site. he will be transported to a local hospital. olson was not a random victim. he had been out of jail on bond. less than 24 hours earlier he was convicted and sentenced to prison for rape. >> it's not the cool thing to be doing that. >> they tried to get him out the pod in time. they will execute him. >> when somebody is charged with a sex crime they aren't by default put into segregation. >> it's kind of rough. you are locked down 24 hours a day, i was getting ready to release the inmate to be
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transferred to another pod. he came to me and said some inmates was making threats towards him. that's when he said okay it's time to make my move. that's when i called code blue. >> there is no other way. like child molesting. >> everybody in the pod was plotting on getting him. nobody did nothing. i was standing right by him. he looked at me and something took over me and i hit him. >> rafael gonzalez is awaiting trial. >> i had to go do what i had to do. he needed to get his ass
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whooped. that's a homey code by itself. i ran up and started kicking. he was on the ground. we sat there and stomped. until he was like, all right, that's enough. >> he was sentenced to eight years for assault with a dangerous weapon, robbery with a firearm and false impersonation. now they face new charges. >> this is a felony assault. they beat him unconscious and continued to beat him afterwards. they believe he is a sex offender but don't know the whole story. they are sending a message that he is not wanted, not needed there, and this is what happened. >> coming up. >> i know you are pretty mad at
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me right now. >> highly pissed would be an understatement. gonzalez and nava learn how much their actions might cost them.
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there are about 1,800 individual stories inside the tulsa county jail, one for every man and woman incarcerated here. for the most part there only two types of inmates, those who are first-time offenders and those who aren't. >> i been locked up since i was 15 years old. i am always in and out of jails, in prison, out of prison, in juvie, out of juvie. since i was 15. been doing this for years now.
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the root cause of every time i have been in trouble my entire life is all so i can get high. every time i have ever done anything wrong it was because i was getting high. >> lester stokes arrived at tulsa charged with false impersonation. stokes has two prior prison stays as well. the first for armed robbery. the second, possession of cocaine. his time in the oklahoma department of corrections is kmeted in tattoos. >> it almost lacks like an apostrophe. >> you know that's a mistake. >> we were really high and didn't think about it.
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>> a shotgun. >> and the 88 is for what? >> tands for hail hitler. >> you admire hitler? >> i think he did have some good ideas like that i canning over the world and let it be his. if i could be king of the world i would, too, but i wouldn't do what he did with it. >> he says the tattoos help him fit into with the white gangs. >> a skinny white boy going to a prison full of gang members. you have got to be cliqued up with somebody. i got jumped by four neighborhood crips. they were trying to steal my shoes. he told them if they wanted my shoes they had to take them off my feet. i kept my shoes.
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i got to keep my shoes. i paid for those shoes. >> stokes says in prison he remained on the fringes of gangs lierk the arian brotherhood. >> i haven't earned full member yet. >> how do you do that? >> solid, prove yourself, five people, whatever it comes down to. like three fives, not bad. >> stay getting involved, keep your problems solved from the side back middle and front. >> he written raps to win approval with the irish mob. >> i stay close to the side back middle and front. one step further i am ready to buck. i keep praying to god i never
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cross paths with the irish mob. >> stokes tries to secure a place with the irish mob. he hopes this won't affect another relationship. >> i miss my daughters. i have four little girls. >> he rarely sees his girls. the one he has spent the most time with is 7-year-old emily. >> my daughter drew that for me. >> i love her little voice. she is awesome. she is the only person that's going to love me month matter what. irish mob, they will turn on me, i know that. this little girl won't. she will be there until i die. she drew that for me. >> stokes's respondest memories are of watching emily while her mother was at work.
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>> i would play princess, teacup parties, watch dora. the happiest i have ever been, sitting there. i would put little tee aras. and a no bake oven, an easy bake thing. she would make little brownies. it says dear daddy, i miss you more than you miss me. i wish we were not apart. you are the best daddy in the world. i love you so much. i think about her every single day, every night. she is the first and last thing i think about every single day. i will never choose drugs over her again. i want to be better than that. >> on the back it she wrote, dear mail map if this letter gets lost, don't send it to me, send it to prds to my daddy.
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on the back of hers i say mr. postman if this gets lost don't send it to me, send it to heaven for my angel. these emotions aren't helping me. that's weakness. i don't want to show it. i am so scared to let those people see who i really am. i am scared they will make fun of me for it, hate me for it. tattooed up gangster that cries in his cell every night. >> how can you remote reply justify that to me. you better hope he doesn't die. >> is he still in the hospital? >> yes. >> reality sinks in. >> you are the most beautiful girl in the world. nothing can ever change that. you have special, baby girl. i love you with all my heart.
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inside the tulsa county jail inmate rafael gonzalez recently assaulted eric olson because olson had been convicted of a sex crime against a miner. inmate deany nava participated as well. nava is awaiting charges. now his attack on olson may result in new charges. >> what do you think is going to happen to you, rafael. >> honestly, i don't know. he abused a little girl. he is right next to me. what am i going to do about it? just let him be? probably you, you would let him be, but i can't let him be. >> nava, whose nickname is loco
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faced charges for assault with a deadly weapon. >> i am proud of that. for one, because went to a hospital. >> and if he dies? >> what's loco stidoing life fo. because he killed a child. >> your fine friend mr. nava didn't make it very far. >> nava had been released earlier. >> i know you are pretty mad at me right now. >> highly pissed would be an under statement. i put my name on the line to let you out, that pod officer put
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his name on the line to let you out. i won't get in any more trouble. your words. where are we at? >> back in here. >> you know what that tells me about you? >> my word ain't no good. >> you better believe it. did that guy do anything to you. no. how can you remotely justify that to me. you better hope he don't die. i don't know whatever god you pray to, but you better be praying to him. >> is he still in the hospital? >> yes. >> i know i am not the judge or the jury, but what that guy did that little kid is going to be changed noefr. if i do catch manslaughter for that little kid, i got a little
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boy out there. if anything would happen to that boy? the person that kills people is incarcerated, i would thank that person if i had the chance to. we both did wrong. you are the one that calls the shot on how long a person is supposed to be in here. that was a big incident, but other than that i was following the rules in the pod, hawking down and everything when i was told to. is this any way ac? >> you have to let me think about getting you off ac. >> that's a punishment in itself. >> i keep my word. i will review it in 30 days. >> all right. >> fair enough? >>, yes, sir. >> okay.
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>> thank you. >> all right, man. >>, i'm sorry, i broke my word to you, you hear me? >> okay. we will try it between, man, okay? >> all right. thank you. >> unlike nava, rafael gonzalez is a new coming to the segregation unit. >> rafael, you part of that mess from 16 last night? >>, yes, sir. >> you know he dices, you have manslaughter charge. 20 dwreers to life. >> you think he is going to make it? i didn't mean to harm him that bad. i seen him and thought about my little girl and thought somebody harm my little girl like that be. >> he has what to do with your p.m. >> nothing to do with your family. >> you are not even on my radar.
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you are now. >> i am not going to give you any more trouble, i give you my word. >> i know that. think about what you aring to before you do it. >> yes, sir. >> you are going to be dealing with me now. you be stupid to any of my staff i will make you a permanent resident. don't lie to me, be honest honest with what's going on and we will work on it. >> eric olson did not die. he has returned to the jail and is currently housed in a single person answer cell in the medical unit. >> i am pretty sure what knocked me out was being punched and i hit the floor on the back of my idaho. i have a pretty large knot. i have a bruise up here. i have bumps all over the back of my head, although you can't
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see them. i am pretty sure i got punched in my mouth. can't open my jaw to get a large amount of food in my mouth. i have bruises from being hit in the nice and on the ground. >> olson was at the jail less than 24 hours after the attack. nava and gonzalez say they attacked him because he raped a 12-year-old girl. >> rape by instrumentation means you had some kind of penetration. >> the penetration was what? >> digital penetration, a finger. >> how old? >> she was 16 at the time. >> he said he didn't know he was committing rain because the age
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of sexual content in oklahoma is 16. he said he did not force himself on the victim. >> i was the interim youth coordinator at the church i attended. it's kind of a church school. she was one of my students. i think we both knew we were dancing around liking each other for a period of time, but i don't think you would call it a relationship for longer than three or four months. one of the students both at my youth group and the class i was teaching made some allegations. not the correct ones that led to me being charged, but it was enough for the school to do an investigation. >> olson said he thought he was safe from prosecution because of the age of consent being 16 years old. the law was changed to 20 years
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when it's between a student and a teacher. >> you have unfair advantage and power over someone who is underneath you. i don't believe i was in any way aggressive. it was one of those naturally occurred type of things. it was a comfortable situation to me. unfortunately that made no boundaries being made for myself. for me this is no doubt in my mind i did a completely and immoral choice. >> i have been told a lot of things about having a conviction of my type and coming into a jail system. i didn't know it was going to happen less than 24 hours after getting here. >> we bring the inmates down to the library.
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a shooting inside a southern california clothing store left a man and woman dead. police say no suspects are being sought. the vigil in washington state after a high school student killed two and wounded four. >> the fiance of dr. craig spencer returned home from a mandatory quarantine and allowed to self-monitor instead.
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all right, tell ariel that we love her and that everything is going to be okay. >> officials at the tulsa county jail recognize that as the number of men and women continues to increase, so, too, are the children left behind. it's estimated that there are more than 1.7 million american children with at least one parent behind bars. nearly twice as much as ten years earlier. the jail offers several educational and religious program, along with one designed to help parents reconnect with their kids. >> it's called story time. >> mama said not to speak to any strangers. >> we bring the inmates down to the library.
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they are able to pick out a clirns book. it's recorded. the tape and the book is sent out to the child. despite the circumstances and the bad choices, they still want to stay connected to their kids and want to show their kids that they are doing something positive. >> listen up, stokes, come here. >> lester stokes, this is a story time request or application. do you have more than one child? i have four. >> are they all at the same house? no. she has extras for you. you have to fill out one for each household. >> thank you. >> you are welcome. >> stokes has served two prior prison terms and will soon return to serve for false impris
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nation. he has four daughters by three women. the first story he records will be to the daughter he is closest too. >> emily, daddy misses you so much. bunches. how is mommy doing? i heard you were doing great in school and you are the smartest kid in the plaza. i am proud of you. i signed up for a class so i can read stories on tape and send them to me so you can hear me. are you being a good big sister and helping mommy with the baby brother? on sp you are the most beautiful girl in the world and nothing can ever change that. you are special, baby girl. i love you with all my heart. bunches. >> that gets you emotional?
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>> i cry every time i do it. i can't write her without crying. >> while stokes feels emotions in jail, especially when it comes to emily, he is cautious to hide them from other inmate. >> any kind of love or tears is pointed out as weakness in here. it's frowned bonn. i am not going to sit in the pod and write a letter and cry my eyes out. i go in my cell, shut the door and keep it to myself. people get extorted, robbed, beat up and jumped. i am not one of those people. i refuse to be like that. >> other inmates typically prayed upon in jail are convicted of sex crimes. >> eric olson was assaulted by
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two inmates who thought he had raped a 12-year-old girl, but that wasn't the case. >> what were you told on the pod. >> what was i told? >>, yeah, about him. >> that he raped a little girl with a forged instrument or something like that. >> let me tell you the facts of the case and why i am so pissed off how old do you think the girl was? >> 12. >> 16. she was a student, he was a teacher. they changed the state law. wasn't no 12-year-old. wasn't nothing used. was it against the law? sure it was. i am not condoning what he did. a 16-year-old with a 24-year-old teacher. >> i didn't know i don't know of
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that. >> so he got beat up for what? jailhouse rumor that just spiraled. those are the facts of the case. >> man. >> this is what i have been trying to get you to do. be your own man. keep your head down, take care of your case and don't get caught up in none of this drama, trauma crap going on in these pods. it will lead you astray. >> it was crazy. >> that's an understatement. >> bleep. big time. >> yeah. >> did that guy turn out all right? >> he is back out of the hospital. i don't know with it's going to go. >> did they file charges on me?
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yr don't know. investigators are talking to me. thought i would bring you up to speed on it. you have got serious soul searching to do. iing is you do it. >> yes, sir. >> nava remains in segregation. the inmate who initiated the attack, rafael gonzalez, is back in the general population due to a technical error. >> he was let out by our discipline hearing officer. he did his job correctly. there was no paperwork that narrated what had happened. without those reports we cannot hold something in a unit. they are allowed out because of
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lack of paperwork. >> but gonzalez's return to general population does not protect him from facing possible criminal charges nor does it take him off the sergeant's radar. >> you believed he did something of a sexual nature to a 12-year-old? >>, yes, sir. >> you want to know the truth of what happened? >>, yes, sir. >> she wasn't 12. she was 16. >> made a mistake sir. >> he is only 24. understand this. you royally screwed up. >> i made a mistake. >> you more than made a mistake. not here to browbeat you, i am here to get you to use your mind. think about what you are doing. >> thank you for giving me a second chance. >> it's your only chance because
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you pull this crap again. >> i am not pulling so crap sir. >> i will bury you so far back in there you won't even get mail. you be stupid enough to call my bluff. are you tracking me loud and clear? >> i hear you, sir. >> by all rights you should not be out of the unit. don't blow it. my last visit with mr. gonzalez he was genuine in his remorse of what he had done. i highly doubt he will do it again. mr. nava, on the other hand, is a wildcard. impulse control with him is very low. that's a deal of when he is going to do something else. >> coming up. >> nervous. i don't want to mess up. i don't want to say anything stupid. >> lester stokes reaches out to
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his little girl. >> gretel and her brother, hansel, lived near a morest.
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tulsa, oklahoma, has known tough times. its residents braved life from tornadoes. wild west and big oil. inside the tulsa county jail, the same thick and often heavily tattooed skins are on display. lester stokes will soon leave the jail to serve six years in prison. a prospect for the irish mob.
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>> irish people eat better than anybody else. >> proving irish heritage is not a requirement for membership. >> my mom has red hair. i figure people with red hair are irish people. i have never checked my family tree. >> what is this? >> man a's. >> what the -- >> we never get mayonnaise. >> i don't trust it. >> but stokes knows that for long-term happiness, he will need more than his gang. >> my daughter will only be 11 or 12 when i get out. i might still be able to be her dad. but i have to stop all this stuff. >> his eldest daughter is 7-year-old emily. thanks to a program called story time, stokes and other inmates can take a break from jail in
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order to be parents. >> you guys need to get a book. this is a bunch of books you can choose from. look around and see what you can find. when you get a book, let me know and i will tell you what to do next. >> we have quite a waiting list to the male pop haitian to get in here to read to their children. how do i go to story time. how do i get an application? >> how do you think emily is going to feel about that? >> it's a good book. i liked be the story when i was a kid. >> when you are ready, push the red button. there is an eight to ten second delay, so wait before you start speaking. you can send your kids a
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message, sing them a song, say a prayer. this is your personal message to them. >> sweet. >> just whenever you are ready. >> nervous. what do i say? i don't want to mess up. i want her to hilike what i say. i don't want to say anything stupid. i will try. emily, daddy loves you, baby. i can't wait to see you again. i hope you are doing good for mommy and i am going to read you a story, called hansel and gretel. i love you. gretel and her brother, hansel, lived near a great forest.
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one night gretel awoke to voices. there is not enough food, screamed the stepmother. i really like this program. i am glad i got sign dollaed up it. hansel stepped outside. to keep that bond with her. i don't want to get out and be like, you weren't there. i want her to know that i who have her and i am here. gretel and hansel lived in comfort and joy with their father. every now and then gretel ventured back to the gingerbread cottage for dessert. that's the story of hansel and gretel, emily. i love you. you are the most beautiful girl in the world and you are very special. i miss you more than the desert
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misses rain. mwa. i don't want her to think i disappeared and i am not there and just come back after all these years and try to be part of her life. i would like to be a part of it even though i am gone. >> i wrote, this book belongs to to emily from daddy. i miss you and think of you every single day. you are my age. mwa. i smelled is muah. >> i am going to tell you a story called hansel and gretel. i love you. >> so how does that make you feel? >> makes me feel very happy. sounds good. i think she is going to like that. she will get this big package in the mail. she will probably be excited
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about that. her mom told me she likes it when she gets letters from me. now she will get an even bigger one. >> coming up. >> it's an aggravated assault because they beat him unconscious and continued to beat him afterwards. >> the jail presses charges. now eric olson has a major decision to make, willing to know if you are willing to cooperate in the prosecution of the inmates to zhaulted you. fwlap with millions of reviews, tripadvisor makes any destination better. car insurance companies say they'll save you by switching, you'd have, like, a ton of dollars. but how are they saving you those dollars? a lot of companies might answer "um" or "no comment." then there's esurance. born online, raised by technology
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incarcerated sex offender. he still became a starth. rafael gonzalez threw the first punch. >> kind of like slow motion coming at my face. everything else so manied secondary to me protecting the vital parts. >> deany nava also joined in on the attack. >> something must have happened because the next thing i knew i was like on the ground in a pool of blood and coming in and out of consciousness. i remember waking up in the ambulance. the sergeant is preparing a case against nuf an and conservative to present to the district attorney. >> it's an aggravated assault because they beat him until he was unconscious and continued to both him afterwards. >> we are going to talk to
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inmate olson and see if he wants to be a complaining witness. mr. olson, sergeant from the investigations unit. how are you feeling? >> i'm all right. >> you were assaulted in j 16 the other day. i need to know if you are willing to cooperate in the prosecution of the inmates that assaulted you. >> i don't want to. >> we are submitting charges to the district attorney's office on behalf of the state because it was a felony assault. i will put it down that you are not a cooperating witness at this time. we are still going to submit, so they will be charged, just so you know. >> all right. thank you. the human part of me says absolutely i want them to continue to pay. but the spiritual side of me
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says forgive them and hopefully they will learn. i have no reason not to forgive, because i have been forgiven so many things. >> i got lots of people that get victimized but they don't want to cooperate. it's part of the job. due to the circumstances surrounding this, the inmates involved in the assault, i think it's a better route to go ahead and file the charges and seek prosecution. >> olson is awaiting transfer to prison to serve a five-year sentence for his crime. though he has been cleared by doctors to return to general population, the sergeant has decided not to let that happen. >> eric olson will have to be put in protective custody. he can't be in the general population. it's a pack mentality. you are the weaker of the pack. you will be exploited, extorted
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and or beaten between. >> i don't want to put you in a pod. i want to put in a segregated unit. whatever pod i put you in this is a potential for you to get hurt again. i don't want that to happen. where you go from here is segregation unit protective custody. i have other choice for you. >> very good, sir. >> the majority of it comes from my faith. it's kept me very calm and peaceful. i have been going through this process. my family has made a huge
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impact. i have six brothers and sisters and two parents who love us deeply. the last thing my mother said before i went in to be sentenced was, i will love you no matter what. she gave me a hug and said good luck. i do want to make something of myself. i don't want to be a sex offender and that's the end of my story. i am very determined to make something of myself past this.
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don't grab my wrists like that! what is wrong with you? >> an inmate's troubled past leads to angry outbursts inside the jail. >> if i'm to the point i'm mad at you here in my face, we're going to have a problem. >> i put him in segregation from the moment he got here because of his combative nature and the way he was acting. >> another inmate arrives in the jail after an alleged crime spree that sounds like it's

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