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have wealth and power of the people who need to change. >> today, british comedian, actor and activist russell brand for the hour. he is out with a new book, simply titled "revolution." once known as the face of the mtv movie awards, he has since become one of the most prominent voices of the british left. he has taken part in anti-austerity protests, spoken at occupy wall street and marched with the hacker collective anonymous. a recovering addict himself, russell brand has also become a leading critic of britain's drug laws. >> it is not important we regard people suffering from addiction with compassion and there is a pragmatic rather than some bolick approach to treating it. i think [indiscernible] it is kind of symbolic and not really functional. id. see how it especially helps.

>> all that and more, coming up. welcome to democracy now, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. we are broadcasting from london. the top military officer in the united states has said he is considering sending u.s. combat troops back to iraq. testifying before a house panel, chairman of the joint chiefs of staff general martin dempsey said the united states could send a "modest" number of troops to help iraqi forces retake mosul and other areas seized by islamic state militants. >> places along the path that i think will be fairly complex terrain for them, including, for example, mosel, and eventually as they need to restore the border between iraq and syria.

i am not predicting at this point that i would recommend that those forces in mosul and along the border would need to be accounted by u.s. forces, but we are considering it. >> dempsey's comments come after president obama has repeatedly vowed not to send combat troops back into iraq. obama has already asked congress to approve a $5.6 billion plan that would involve doubling the u.s. troop presence in iraq with an additional 1,500 "noncombat" personnel. dempsey spoke a day after iraqi prime minister haider al-abadi fired 26 iraqi military commanders for incompetence and corruption. president obama is reportedly considering executive action that would protect up to five million undocumented immigrants from deportation. according to news reports citing unnamed sources said obama could announce the plan as soon as next week. a key component could prevent the deportation of parents whose children are u.s. citizens.

the report comes as a majority of house democrats have sent a letter to obama calling for him to take action on immigration. republican house speaker john boehner has vowed to fight any such action "to and nail." an immigrant advocacy group meanwhile has filed a lawsuit against the department of homeland security over obama's record deportations. the national day laborer organizing network says the obama administration has violated the law by failing to respond to a rulemaking petition the group filed earlier this year seeking relief for millions of undocumented immigrants. house lawmakers are expected to pass legislation today to approve the keystone xl oil pipeline. the senate is expected to vote next week on a similar pro-keystone bill backed by louisiana democratic senator mary landrieu. landrieu is facing a tough battle to keep her seat in a runoff next month against

republican congressmember bill cassidy -- who happens to be the sponsor of the pro-keystone bill in the house. the keystone xl pipeline would bring carbon-intensive tar sands oil from alberta, canada to the texas gulf coast. it's been in the works for more than six years amidst mass protests over its potential to accelerate climate change. congressional republicans have elected new leaders following sweeping victories in the midterm elections. as expected, kentucky senator mitch mcconnell will head the new republican-led senate as majority leader. house republican leaders, including speaker john boehner have been re-elected to their posts. on the democratic side, nevada senator harry reid will continue to lead his party, now as minority leader. and massachusetts senator elizabeth warren has been given a newly created position in the senate's democratic leadership which will see her serving as a liaison to progressives groups.

as congress met on capitol hill, the workers who typically serve them food went on a one-day strike to push for a $15-an-hour wage and the right to form a union. in a historic first, workers at the u.s. capitol building joined fellow food-service and cleaning workers from the pentagon, smithsonian and other sites. in february, obama signed an executive order raising the minimum wage for federal contractors for $10.10 an hour, but workers say that is still not enough to survive in the nation's capital. in california, walmart workers have staged a historic sitdown strike which organizers say is the first of its kind in the company's history. the workers sat down in a los angeles walmart with tape placed over their mouths to protest what they say are illegal attempts by the company to silence workers' demands for

better jobs. workers at more than 2,000 walmart stores have signed a petition calling for a $15-an-hour wage and full-time hours with protests planned across the country on black friday. a recent analysis by the economic policy institute found the six heirs to the walmart fortune make as much as the bottom 79% of black families in this country combined. liberia has lifted a state of emergency to curb the spread of ebola after registering a decline in the disease. president ellen johnson made the announcement thursday. isour estimation, and that -- and that of those who have consulted, the progress we have ongoingd coupled with interventions, all of which can sustained under

the provisions of the public health law have combined to reposition our efforts to sustain the fight against the virus until it is finally eradicated from our country. >> the news in liberia comes as the west african nation of mali has confirmed a second outbreak of ebola after containing an initial one. meanwhile, clinical trials of ebola treatments are due to begin next month at centers run by doctors without borders in guinea and liberia. the trials will test drugs made by firms in japan and the united states. israel reportedly has been a norwegian doctor from entering gaza for the rest of his life. he provided medical aid to gazans during the summers is really assault. he worked at the hospital and appeared on democracy now! after the hospital came under attack

by the israeli army. israel has also vowed to deny entry into gaza to representatives from the u.n. human rights council. speaking to investigate potential war comes manager in the assault which killed nearly 2200 palestinians, most of them civilians. on thursday, secretary of state john kerry met with the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu and jordan's king abdullah and announced steps aimed at reducing tensions in jerusalem. a united nations panel has criticized the excessive use of force by police in the united states one day after hearing testimony from the parents of michael brown, the african-american teenager shot dead by police in ferguson, missouri. u.n. expert jens modvig questioned the mechanisms in place for holding police officers accountable. ofthere are disturbing facts

excessive force by police officers especially toward african-americans another persons of color. we seem to demonstrate the current mechanisms of accountability are insufficient. we have information that many federal investigations against police officers from lawful and excessive use of force were closed without criminal charges because they did not present sufficient evidence of willful misconduct to give rise to a federal criminal prosecution for the police officers involved. >> as u.s. officials defended the country's record on human rights, a group of youth activists with the chicago-based group rose to their feet with their hands in the air to stage a silent protest. they wore t-shirts with an image of dominique franklin, a 23-year-old who died in june after police tasered him during an arrest for stealing a bottle of vodka. a member of the group, malcolm lundin, said the u.s. response was inadequate. >> every day in the city of

report online's a for anyone who wants to view it that documents every single day rights,ice violate abuse, sexual assault, murder, and kill, particularly people who look like me who are black and brown. and that is devastating. what the state brought today and/ort at all cover answer this questions than it is inadequate. what we are dying in the streets in the state department is putting themselves on the back as they let us stand in a room? are not fighting for the right to stand in this room. we're fighting for the right to be alive. >> the u.n.'s scrutiny of the u.s. came as part of a periodic review of u.s. compliance with the u.n. convention against torture. other questions posed by the panel focused on solitary confinement and sexual assault of prisoners in the united states, as well as the u.s.

failure to close the prison at guantánamo bay and its delay in releasing videos of hunger-striking prisoners being force fed there. the american psychological association is launching a review to determine whether it colluded with torture carried out by the u.s. government. psychologists played a key role in the bush administration's torture and interrogation program, helping to develop techniques and monitor sessions. the new probe was prompted by revelations in the new book, "pay any price: greed, power and endless war," by new york times investigative reporter james risen. risen reveals how after the abu ghraib torture scandal, the apa formed a task force that backed the continued role of psychologists in the program. one official from the association wrote an email expressing gratitude to an intelligence official saying --

"your views were well represented by the very carefully selected task force members." the international soccer organization fifa has published an internal report clearing russia and qatar of corruption in their bids for the world cups in 2018 and 2022. the move came despite records of illegal payments by qatari officials, which were noted in the report, and the destruction of computers and disappearance of emails related to russia's bid. the announcement caused an internal rift within fifa after the investigator whose evidence was used in the report denounced the conclusions, calling them "incomplete and erroneous." a new report by the department of homeland security details the cascading series of mistakes which allowed a man wielding a knife to scale a fence and enter the white house.

the report obtained by "the new york times" found the secret service's alarm systems and radios malfunctioned. one officer stationed with an attack dog did not see the suspect, omar gonzalez, mount the fence, because he was in his van talking on his cellphone. the scandal led to the resignation of secret service director julia pierson. president obama is reportedly poised to announce billions in aid to help poorer countries deal with the impacts of climate change. according to the guardian, the obama administration will announce up to $3 billion over the next four years for the green climate fund. poorer countries have long called for the funds as part of a global deal to curb emissions. the announcement comes as world leaders gather in brisbane, australia for the g20 summit. on thursday, anti-poverty campaigners with the group oxfam donned the masks of obama and

other world leaders as they called for world leaders to take action against global inequality. oxfam australia chief executive helen szoke said the gap between rich and poor is increasing. >> what we fear that many countries in the world are not getting the benefits of the profits that are gleaned, for example, by multinational companies. there has already been a recognition that we have to deal with the issue of tax havens. this is just one of the many things that can be done to actually ensure that we continue to lift people out of poverty. >> in hawaii, two agribusiness giants are suing maui county over a new law banning the cultivation of genetically modified crops. monsanto and dow are asking a federal court to block the law, which was passed as a ballot initiative earlier this month. it imposes a moratorium on cultivating gmo crops until they are proved to be safe.

the former ceo who oversaw a mine west virginia that was the site of the worst coal mining disaster in four decades, has been indicted on criminal charges. the explosion at upper big branch mine killed 29 people and subsequent investigations found rampant safety violations. more than four years later, massey energy ceo don blankenship has been charged with four criminal counts for deceiving inspectors and flouting safety standards in order to "make more money." and a new report reveals the justice department is sweeping up data from vast swaths of the population by flying planes equipped with devices designed to mimic cell phone towers. according to the "wall street journal," the seven-year-old program run by the u.s. marshals service, allows the government trick tens of thousands of

cellphones into reporting their location and identifying information over the course of a single flight. while the program is designed to target criminal suspects, it is reportedly ensnaring massive numbers of innocent americans. the device can also interrupt calls on certain phones. and those are some of the headlines, this is democracy now, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. today we are broadcasting from london and are joined by russell brand. up until last year, russell brand was best known for being one of britain's most popular comedians. his resume include host of the reality tv show "big brother's big mouth," a stint as a bbc radio host and starring roles in the films "st trinian's," "forgetting sarah marshall," and "get him to the greek." he also hosted the mtv movie awards. but in recent years, russell

brand has also emerged as one of the most prominent voices of the british left. he has taken part in anti-austerity protests, spoken at occupy wall street and marched with the hacker collective anonymous. a recovering addict himself, russell brand has also become a leading critic of britain's drug laws. last year, he guest-edited "the new statesman," a political and current affairs magazine in britain. the issue included cover art by shepard fairey and articles by noam chomsky, naomi klein among many others. he then appeared on bbc newsnight in an interview with host jeremy paxman. the video became a youtube sensation. >> is it true you did not vote? >> yeah, i did not vote. >> how do you have any authority to talk about policies?

>> the narrative a -- i look elsewhere for alternatives that might be of service to humanity. means alternate political systems. >> being? say, here's the thing you should not do, should not destroy the planet, should not create massive economic disparity, should not ignore the needs of the people. the burden of proof is on the people with the power, not people doing the magazine. >> how do you imagine people get power? there has been hierarchy systems preserved throughout generations. quite a narrow prescriptive --imeter the changes within >> in a democracy, that is how it works. >> i don't think it is working very well given up the planet is being destroyed, given the economic disparity. you're saying there is no alternative? can't i'm saying ifou

be asked to vote, why should we listen to your political point of view? >> you don't have to. i'm not voting out of absolute indifference and wariness and exhaustion from the lies, treachery, deceit of the political class that is been going on for generations now and which has now reached fever pitch where we have a disillusioned, despond it underclass that are not been represented by the political system, so but in fort is passive complicity with that system. >> why don't you change it? >> i'm trying to. >> why don't you start by voting? >> it doesn't work. >> when did you last vote? >> never. do you think that is really bad? >> you struck an attitude before the age of 18? >> i come from the can of social conditions that are exacerbated by system that really just administrates for large corporations and ignores the population -- >> you are blaming the political class that you had a drug

problem? a socialwas part of and economic class that is underserved by the current political system, and drug addiction is one of the problem it creates when you have huge underserved, impoverished populations. people get drug problems and also don't feel like they want to engage with the current political system because they see it doesn't work for them. they see it makes no difference. >> they don't bother to vote? >> the apathy doesn't come from us, the people, but from the politicians. they're only interested in serving the needs of corporations. going to court and taking the eu to court because they're trying to curtail bank bonuses. is that what is happening in our country at the moment? was russell brand being interviewed on bbc newsnight by host jeremy paxman last year. since it was posted, more than 10 million people have watched that video. well, russell brand has just

come out with a new book expanding on his critique of the political system. it is called "revolution." break,e come back from he will be sitting right here in front of big then. stay with us. ♪ [music break]

onthat is leonard cohen here this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. we are broadcasting from london. just in front of big ben and

mi5, the british domestic intelligence service. our guest has turned around to look out the window to say, which one is mi5? >> it's a secret. you're not supposed to know that. russell brand is our guest. he is well known as a comedian and actor and also become a leading figure on the british left and has a new book out called, "revolution." russell, welcome to democracy now! even though there are a lot of obscenities in the world, please, don't use them on democracy now! or our station will be taken off the air. >> they're really concerned about it. honestly, i don't swear very often. this evening i am performing before an audience of children. i won't swear, i promise you. you're perfectly safe. >> their children are watching and listing right now, and adults -- >> don't worry. what do you need to know, amy? >> where were you born?

people usehere obscenities a lot, where you suffer from dreadful conditions. you will swim back rather than stay. you would rather live in the mi5 building. >> talk about where you were born. >> a suburban town with the expectations. it is a bit like camden, new jersey, though expectations, really, really and tested people, but a kind of place where it is difficult to engage with hope, easy to imagine life can just trundle out like this low gray river. >> tamed and is one of the poorest places in the united states. >> it might be a bit better than that. it is not one of the poorest, but not that nice. growing up, i've had cause to reflect. to coveted events and

being into sparkling places with superlatively attractive things. what was surprising when a went back recently, even though it is can of ordinary to begin with and somewhat economically deprived, when i went recently, it had become much worse. dodgy shops, payday loans, people living on welfare. in writingnspiration the book to see how the place where i come from had deteriorated and where that money has gone, where those resources have gone and why people don't seem to think they have any political purchase or ability to change the situation. thisu were talking about on the clip we just played that would totally viral from bbc newsnight. where you talked about why you don't vote. that was a few years ago. have you started voting? >> one year i think. >> have you voted since then? >> no. >> do you think the system is

changing at all? >> do you? >> well, i do live here. just had american midterm elections in which $4 billion was spent on campaigning when we are told there's not enough money. it was seem to me, you know -- it was interesting. like fema, the us agency that went out money to victims of katrina and sandy, they wanted the money back they let the people that had surfeit -- suffered in those hurricanes. simultaneously, $4 billion is being spent on campaigning in midterm elections. we live in a system where tax breaks are easy if you understand the law. the degree of systemic change is so need, i don't see any point in voting for it. >> this gives me a chance to go to your show called "the trews." >> it is on the internet.

>> a combo between truth and the news? >> one of the cleverest puns in human history. >> you talk about this issue of disabled and elderly residents in assisted living center in rockaway, new york. this is after sandy, after superstorm sandy him of being fema.to return aid to let's go to that clip from your show. >> can we have that money back? but the hurricane, disabled? money back. >> i asked, do we have to give this back? they said, no, it is a gift from the president. >> you know that gift we gave you? yes, we appreciated it. what is it? give it back. >> there it is. i am proud of "the trews" because it gives us an

inernative news narrative public debate for talking about politics, which i do in my book. such as gnomic line and noam chomsky. people are having to guard me like i'm not allowed to participate. shut up, look at your hair, listen to your accent, be quiet. from the left as well. he say, this is what we think, can we talked about this in a different way? people are so protective and territorial, it is interesting and not difficult to see whether such political status and such mobility because people don't welcome new debate. not ordinary people. ordinary people like it and are engaged in excited, but i would say there's a kind of security establishment, picture your -- peculiar circle. >> explain what you did at

occupy democracy and what it is, what it is here in britain. is ae occupy movement decentralized campaign movement, so it is the same in the u.k. as it is in america. there were a group of protesters occupying parliament square for coalition of groups interested in issues such as fracking, animal rights. primarily, the ability to have any political purchase through , to oconee and,as restrictive trade agreements whether they be european or transatlantic. these are the rules and regulations that affect people's ordinary life so something like occupy democracy is people believeating they there's a need for change. i support that. what i reckon is important and what i talk about in the book, amy, create, local, direct action.

we should be looking to convince politics that aren't going to provide answers. like women of the new europe estate in great britain who were being evicted from their homes because the area got trendy now so all of the rent has gone up. these people are going to be effective from the house and they organize themselves, campaigned and now the wealthiest politician in the packedof parliament has his bags and run from the confrontation. still, the westbrook group, the developers that are 90% of this state, still have to be confronted. the mayor of london has to be confronted. anys difficult to get political purchase. there are no political figures interested in representing ordinary people. >> might you run for mayor of london? bei don't think i want to part of the political system. i'm interested in ordinary people being an gauge whether it is through union activity in the workplaces, new coalitions, or people taking control of the places they live, amy.

>> you have talked a lot about the power of corporation and also materialism. >> how come you're allowed a glass of mine is plastic? why am i not trusted? this is america versus england, isn't it? you have thrown our flag away, rejected our queen, and now taking all the glassware. come on. >> thank you, russell. >> cheers, to freedom. >> corporate culture and materialism. i want to talk about your book because you talk about the kind of revolution you want to see. talked about the revolutions in your own life, how you have changed over time. >> the reason i have such faith in the capacity for change, for people changing lives, because my own life was changed radically. revolution is to create structures outside of the existing structures to create change without using the

sanctioned means to change. lack of gone from a being impoverished and drug addicted to a life where i'm so affluent and free from drugs. that is what gives me the believe that change is possible on an individual level. >> talk about how you beat addiction. wind data time, i surrender to the fact i'm a drug addict and with the help and support of others i am able to get daily reprieve from drugs. it is contingent on me being available to help others with the disease of addiction, taking advice from others. i think it is important issue because drug addiction -- the reason people are addicted to drugs is there's a deficit of happiness, deficit of community, deficit of community. joseph campbell talked about our problems being you to a lack of communal myth. a lot of us feel a little

adrift, that we don't know how we're supposed to live, what we're supposed to do. in the end, some sort of an ascetic becomes attractive. that is my personal experience. the reason -- what i was chasing after new year's and my diction was probably some sorts of sense of communal connection or connection to a higher thing. about write very movingly philip seymour hoffman and also about robin williams. both dealing with addiction, both died in the last year. >> i suppose those high profile and said deaths provide an opportunity to highlight how many lives are affected by diction and the need to address it a different means. i think criminalizing and penalizing people that are ill, like philip seymour hoffman or sort oflliams, pointless. it doesn't work. people are using more progressive means to tackle the

issue of addiction, places like canada and portugal and swiss. i think the only way for drug addiction to be correctly addressed as for it to be regulated. regulated properly, not left in the hands of criminals. >> overall, the drug war, how this fits into that larger story? >> even just as a piece of language, amy. said, if there is a drug war and we're losing it, that means drug addicts are winning. that is really bad to lose a drug war to people who are high. wars on terror, wars on drugs -- stop making things worse. >> the amount of money, for example, that goes into in the name of fighting against drugs. yesterday, our big special was on mexico. 43 students who disappeared in the state of guerrero and it turns out the mayor and the

police turned them over to drug gangs. the question is, right up to the president, the billions of dollars, for example the u.s. has given the mexican military and mexican police and the name of the so-called drug war, where has it really gone? and is it in fact a real war, but a war against people, particularly poor people and indigenous people? >> some people would argue, like in that brilliant film by eugene that argues what happened is the bottom 50% of society are no longer needed because of the collapse of the manufacturing industries, so it is better to just criminalize them and put them in prisons. , certainlyxy war think that argument holds. desknk addiction can help happen to anyone, but those who sever most are those without money. there's no doubt social conditions have a huge impact on peoples tended the to get

addicted to substances. i think if people live in communal informants were to have access to support -- forgive me for using the word "love" airbus likely to get addicted to drugs. >> i want to go to an amazing moment you had in the u.s. media but before i do that, i want to go to the parliament right here. this is the parliament building where you recently testified. you offered testimony on the issue of drugs? >> they drag you in their to talk to her committee. i think they got me there to try tension to the fact there are having a committee to debate drug laws. since then, drug laws have radically changed. they've done nothing. it was a bit of a circus, kangaroo court. talks let's go to russell brand in the british parliament. >> it is more important we regard people suffering from addiction with compassion and there is a pragmatic rather than symbolic approach to treating

it. i think the legislative will he status -- legislative status and the criminalization of addicts is kind of symbolic and not really functional. i don't see how it especially helps -- not saying let's have a wacky free-for-all of people taking drugs. >> you're a former heroin addict. briefly, can you tell us why you got on the drugs and how you managed to come off it and now many years you were on hard drugs? >> i see you incorporate the word briefly into the question. it is my propensity for verbosity. i became a drawback i think because of emotional difficulties, psychological difficulties and perhaps the spirituality. for me, taking drugs and excessive drifting was a result of the psychological, spiritual, or mental condition. they're symptomatic of sad, lonely, unhappy, detached and

drugs in our call for me seemed like a solution to that problem -- and alcohol for me seemed like a solution to that problem. once i felt the spiritual it is, i no longer felt the need to take or use drugs. that is russell brand testifying before the parliament. we're going to go to break -- >> why? >> you said something as we were going into this. you said, "get used to it." >> i was being silly. >> but are you, considering running as a member of parliament? would you consider running? >> no, i want to have the ordinary people collapse the political structures and replace them with directly democratic organizations. you think you could ever do that within the system board to you think it is much more effective to be outside? >> i would take the advice of people who know more than me like naomi klein and noam chomsky, most say change within the system is prevented.

>> we're talking to russell brand. we're going to go to break. then we're back right here in london as we sit in front of big ben and mi5. stay with us. ♪ [music break]

the hour, russell brand, the well-known british comedian, actor, and now really leading member of the british left. last year, he edited an issue of the new statesman. he spoke at occupy democracy, that is in britain is called in london. tell us about that music. >> what happened was, at thing

started in our country were people like -- in my book i said i was loquacious. i use long words. unlike hip-hop. -- i like caps on, shakespeare were people use on which well. to try to exclude me from the debate there say, when you hear someone using long words without mention parklikeemembe thing shouted. me in these lands, these irish hop group did on decline of public services and austerity and ineffectiveness of our current leaders. >> your book is getting a lot of positive reviews. the new york times book review said -- actual, this was about

your previous look. i want to go to your moment in american media. ons one was your appearance msnbc's "morning joe" last year, co-host mika brzezinski introduced you by saying -- "he's a really big deal... i'm told this. i'm not very pop cultured, i'm sorry." your countrywoman from here does bbc in the united states, continually referring to you as willy. the former german chancellor. about six minutes into the interview, the bottom of the screen reads, "russell brand takes over, dominating the mj set." here's a clip. >> russell brand --

>> is this what you do for living? >> yes. the'm here to promote people of america, i want the people of america to come see me do stand up. .tv where youbrand can purchase your tickets. i'm sure these people are typically good at their jobs. you convey news to the people of america. people of america, we're going to be ok, anything is all right, these are your trusted anchors. >> meaning? >> here are your papers. >> you need a pen. >> coming up later -- we're going to be talking about the situation with edward snowden. what is done from erica, are our secrets being jeopardized? >> and there you have just a moment on morning joe. what happened? >> i went on to television host

trying my hardest to be nice and everyone was rude, so i defended myself in the protocols of britain saying, stop bullying me. if you're going to be condescending, don't do it from the gutter. >> and you took over the notes? >> oh, yeah. i thought in a professional way. >> what you think of the u.s. media? >> some of it is good. this is u.s. media. i'm enjoying this. i don't think there is an international distinction. there's media dominated by corporate interest whether it is in britain or france or america. media have- some been lovely and friendly and open-minded. i think it is a commonly held view, and that is true, debate is held within narrow parameters. if you try to stray outside them, you get into trouble. i think that is why i think it is good to do it comedically,

not to respect the parameter of debate, not to accept the frame of the oh, well, you can vote for this person or that person, but you can't take money out of politics and have ordinary people represented. we can't just say aloud that we live under a feudal system, we live under an oligarchy and we have no political purchase. we have no purchase. we have no impact on power. america in great britain are not run for or near people but for operations. is it true you went to summer camp with chomsky? if it's true, i bet he was born. the summer camp is corrupt. a refuse to abide by this system. it is quite clear this summer camp is run by the interests of the leaders there and we have children that are not given any time to be free. that spring break with chomsky. you revealed the truth, the manufacture of the nipple conse

nt. >> i think chomsky was pretty playful. >> was he? eiffel chomsky. >> let's go to noam chomsky couple of weeks ago. i had an interesting expense of being able to do a public interview with him at the un's general assembly. >> was he good? >> 800 people packed in. public, all over the world, ambassadors. i wait your comment on what he at a safe. >> what do you think is the most single most important action the united states can take and what about its role over the years? what is its interest year? accent thertant united states could take is to live up to its own laws. of course it would be nice if it lived up to international law, but maybe that is too much to ask. but live up to its own laws. [applause]

and there are several. have incidentally, i advised activists who i'll to think ought to be organizing and educating in this direction. there are two that crucial cases. law,s called the leahy patrick leahy, senator leahy introduced legislation called the leahy law, which bars sending weapons to any military units which are involved in consistent human rights violations. there isn't the slightest doubt that the israeli army is involved in massive human rights violations, which means all dispatch of u.s. arms to israel is in violation of u.s. law. i think that a significant. the u.s. should be called upon by its own citizens and by

others to adhere to u.s. law. which also happens to conform to international law in this case, amnesty international, for example, for years has been calling for an arms embargo against israel for this reason. these are all steps that can be taken. the second is the tax-exempt status that is given to organizations in the united states, which are directly andlved in the occupation inignificant -- and significant attacks on human violations. take a look at the charter of the jewish fund with the state of israel, which commits it to acting for the benefit of people of jewish race, religion, and origin within israel.

one of the consequences of that is that by complex array of laws and administered -- administrative practices of the fund, pretty much administers about 90% of the land of the country with real consequences. >> you have been listening to noam chomsky, speaking at the un's general assembly before 800 people. ambassadors from around the world. it wasn't the actual meeting of the u n general sibley, but there were so many people who came out to see him, they had to move it into the largest chamber of the yuan. our guest today is russell brand, a huge fan of noam chomsky. >> andrew political analysis. >> and you bring him up in your book "revolution." >> you just admitted that noam chomsky the your father -- could be your father. >> this is been an ongoing debate. >> i'm not sure if it was my -- they were bunk mates. >> bunk mates?

this is getting worse. in my country that means -- >> it could've just been his biting wit. i might've got it confused. >> a real event concerning noam chomsky happens and you manipulated. your chapter -- >> i love noam chomsky. homsky explains how the monroe doctrine has been used to validate u.s. tariffs domestically and abroad since 1823. this is one the monroe doctrine was established. because your childish, using the monroe doctrine is a pledge to act sexy lifting of your front bedo."ng "boop boop it is an outlandish objective. they kept the british

establishment occupied. i would like to dominate your hemisphere, people say over here. i'm using that as a sexual pun and i had to drop it because you made me promise not to swear. u.s. achieve this domination by scaring and starting wars primarily in countries they were confident they would win. as always the case, we have a proof of this nature, noam chomsky makes it seem like i'm trying to say that. this brilliant essay from noam chomsky can i analyze it and try to put it in simple linear show people who would not normally listen to him go, that was a lack. now i know he savaged her father with his fangs, i think i might scribble it out with the crayon. >> i'm sorry, noam. >> is a cannibal! russell company headlines, we talked about the walmart protesters around the united states, people in the capital who feed the senators who just came back from break calling for

$15 and our minimum wage. in this interesting study that found the six heirs to the walmart fortune make as much as the bottom 79% of black families in the united states combined. >> that is a worrying statistic and an indication you can come to be delayed of the free one that is happening. not when people have gotten money just because they emerged from the correct vagina. was it 185 million americans? you framed it racially as well. it is quite wearing. historic in as been mike brown's parents going to geneva and testifying around the issue of torture. the whole issue of police brutality at any moment now, decision will be made by a grand jury over whether the police officer who killed mike brown, darren wilson, will be indicted? >> it is unfortunate and a

scary, terrible incident. but what i heard was 4.2 point dollars worth of much recruitment have been transformed to local police -- transfer to local police. it is almost like they're anticipating further public unrest. instead of placating members of the population through fairness, redistribution of wealth, not beating them up and shooting them, have decided to just arm the police. well, we're going to have to shoot them a bit. let's shoot them some more. i think we will see more of what is happening of ferguson and countries all over the world with his growing disparity between rich and poor. >> we have a law that says troops -- nine >> troops can't march through the streets of the united states. i wonder if the arming of police is a way of getting around that? police armed with

military weapons, with tanks rolling on the streets of the united states. >> that is really worrying. people survived this by living in the mountains with a rifle saying -- it makes you think they have a point. if the government are trying to to militarizes the police force and march them through the streets. members of the police force i know in our country and in your country are ordinary people from ordinary backgrounds that some with them them know they're there to protect and serve the public, not to be the henchmen of the establishment. >> i want to get your take message you go back and forth between the united states and about theou talked u.s. midterm elections. republicans are in charge of the senate. when you look at the committees, james is a leading climate change and i are, the head of fe is a leadingho

climate change denier. naomi klein talks about the issue of climate change and what we can do. you talk about naomi klein in "revolution" and reselling interviewed her. wasn't it in "the trews? books, i read some of her and she read some of mine. from naomi klein, i learned capitalism isn't going to voluntarily change. they're not going to change without a fight. they're happy with it the way things are. it is only if we create direct action, with the application of pressure ordinary people that there will be any kind of change . >> we just have a minute. what gives you hope? >> everything gives me hope.

knowpe comes from that i people want change. people are ready for change, alternatives are possible and you constantly see how hard the establishment has to work to maintain order. look at all of these institutions, the banks, the hold or near people down, they .ry to prevent change in a change is inevitable. change is just a different story. we in the media have an obligation to refrain this argument and tell people they can change the world, that were connected to one another, more in common with each other and the people we are bombing and the people we are bombing them for. we can change the world. the revolution can change as soon as you decided does. looks there you have it, russell brand, his new book is called "revolution." >> and noam chomsky is a cannibal. >> that does it for our show. i wanted thank everyone who is made to show possible.

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