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tuesday only to get another little bit of a cool down. it's been cool along the coast, but you know, that's very typical for this time of year. the coastline will eventually warm up and then our inland cities will be baking. so it's one of those things where, you know, it's a give and take. >> the 80s look good. >> yeah, i'll take it any day of the week. >> yeah. >> all right. all right. quick reminder that you can now stream ktvu news on your smart tv. you can also watch live newscasts and stories on demand on your amazon fire tv, roku, apple tv, android tv, all of the above. we're everywhere. yeah, you can now search the fox local app and then select ktvu, taking you live over to the bay to breakers one last time before it all wraps up. >> yeah, what a day. >> and people are still walking and running on their way to ocean beach. have a great week everybody, and we'll see you again next sat day. ♪ >> shannon: i'm shannon bream. the criminal trial reaches a critical point. the question now, will the
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former commander-in-chief take the stand? >> if you think about what we are doing what i'm doing i'm being indicted for you. >> reporter: the former fixture michael cohen said to return for more in-depth cross examination. >> michael voluntarily just lies and embellishes stories just to make himself look good. >> reporter: as a republican front-runner's allies show up in his -- in his defense. we'll ask will sure what to expect as the case enters week six. and, housed publicans go to hold him in contempt over those special council tapes. >> the other thing i can do is continue to do the right thing. i will protect this building and the people. >> reporter: they ask why the book biden white house is one to keep the audio recording secret. then, the bodies '04 hostages as it arrived in gaza and the national security
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advisor travels to israel. we'll get exclusive reactor from both sides of the aisle. for with the house republicans chair what they find in massachusetts democrat plus. >> make my day powell. >> the debates are on. after months of speculation over will they or won't they, president biden and donald trump finally agreed to meet side-by-side. we'll ask our sunday panel was behind the campaign strategy. all right now on fox news sunday. ♪ hello from fox news in washington. we begin with the caramel trial of former president trumbull resumed manhattan. is one time maturity and fixer michael cohen will be back on the stand before cross-examination by the defense team. the prosecution has indicated cohen is likely the final witness. so who, if anyone, will they call to the stand, would love president trump? he has indicated in the past he
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would like to defend himself in court under oath but doing so would open them up to questions and all other kinds of legal issues with the case at hand. the judge has directed the legal teams be ready for closing arguments as soon as tuesday meaning its possible in case they go to the jury and get a verdict or other conclusion as early as this week. joining us now is the trump attorney who is also running for missouri to attorney -- attorney general. you're not part of the defense team for this case specifically but i have to get to the question, asking about this and the president taking the stand, they write this, as a witness truck would have to address the salacious stormy daniels testimony plus the judges ruled of trump testifies prosecutors might inform the jury that judge arthur ruled in the recent civil fraud case that he committed over many years and a federal jury found him liable for defaming and making knowingly false statements. would he do it would you advise them to?
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>> luke schenn, i think it's important to remember in a criminal case the prosecution bears the burden -- verdict of proving beyond a reasonable doubt each and every element of the charged offences. here i think looking over the trial record over the last several weeks the prosecutions abjectly failed to prove their case. i think any fair jury reviewing this record will unanimously vote to acquit. in terms of whether witnesses will be called including president trump, this is something that the defense team has to think about after the prosecution rests. but as of now, to me this looks like a directed verdict read the very least an absolute acquittal based on there total failure to prove anything even approximating a crime. >> reporter: for the directed verdict that's when they rest their case and basically you go to the judge and say they haven't done it so let's have it the case right here in our favor. let's see if that happens. but as we are looking at potential people to take the
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stand, and they continue to come up, someone who is giving legal advice to michael cohen at one point to the attorney-client privilege being raised. he's giving interviews, he says he gave's -- gave the team hundreds of techs and e-mails when the grand jury the only notionally presented a couple of them and here's part of his story. >> i simply said to the grand jurors you should demand this. you should demand to see everything in chronological order so you get a real view of what michael cohen was like in those days at that moment in time. and then i said let's ask this question, why they try to keep these documents? >> shannon: he sounds very willing to take the stand over conversations about prepping him about this. >> a thing based on his public statements and also his testimony before congress, he would absolutely undercut any remaining credibility of michael cohen and therefore key parts of the prosecution's case.
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this having been said, michael cohen i believe has just completely collapse under -- on the stand under the cross-examination by president trump's trial team. so, at this moment, i don't think there is any further need to call into question michael cohen's credibility because i think he has none. >> shannon: he is back on the stand were mourning for the cross-examination and we will be dialed and i'm sure you will be too. the trouble attorney bill sharpe, thank you for your time. >> great to be with you. >> return for a legal panel with the university law professor for principal deputy assistant attorney general welcome back. >> thank you! >> shannon: this character bob costello he's a well expect -- respected attorney. this doesn't line up with the version of this story, should they call him? >> i think assault would have a lot to say. i thank you would undermine michael cohen's credibility but to be honest, cohen was absolutely destroyed on the stand last week. i'm not sure the trump team needs to do much more to undermine his credibility with
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the jury. the da made it just -- a strategic decision, they had a very rickety scaffold. they went after one the most famous people in american history using what the most least credible witnesses michael cohen and i think they pay the consequences for that decision last week during the cross-examination when they caught cohen and what appeared to be additional lies although trump could call costello in my view i don't think they need to. >> shannon: they put it this way knowing that cohen is back on the stand tomorrow morning, ultimately, the case comes down to which version of cohen jurors believe. mysaria liar that they try to draw with their attacks or a formally temperamental revengeful exterior liar that has remorse now. michael cohen looks the same in his sight -- segment. it's very clear that he lied about a key phone call. not any phone call but the key one that he was speaking to when
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he talked to trump saying that this matter is now over. the question is how this is impacting the jury. i've studied new yorkers my whole life and they are a curious pizza folding people. [ laughter ] the one thing i have noticed is new yorkers don't like to get played. they don't like being chomped. and the question is at what point does this reach this jury this is the biggest legal con in history and we are the marks because you know, when cohen fell apart on the stand at some point the jury's going to have to look at what's being asked of them. they are trying just to get this to a jury. if they understand michael cohen is not good but they are try to argue to the judge that's a question for the jury and then he's hoping the jury will not look at the evidence that they will not look beyond who is the defendant? they might be wrong be wrong. that cynicism might cost him.
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>> shannon: that -- and has to be unanimous verdict. with a reasonable doubt standard and you know, not mission accomplished for the prosecutors. we will have to wait and see if we get a verdict as soon as this week. i also want to ask about the issue going back and forth with president biden with the special council, the transcripts are out but they are fighting now saying the executive privilege they do to release the recordings of this with the kit -- couple committees want to hold them in contempt over that. the wall street journal editorial board not buying this claim of executive privilege say the white house claim over the recordings is not protecting executive power, it is intended to avoid presidential embarrassment if president trump had tried this he would be denounced far and wide and biden is getting the same treatment. >> i think the wall street journal is exactly right on this. out think there is a claim of executive privilege that can be had here. this transcript, the interview that biden had with the special council has been one the most discussed in public lead abated interviews in history. so i think the american people
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are entitled to actually hear the back and forth. it's one thing to read a whole transcript, quite another to hear the questions in realtime. here weather biden did have memory issues and didn't -- display this. did he fail to recall key events in his life? i think the american people are entitled to judge for themselves based on more than just the transcript. they deserve the audio and i hope garland rethinks this and allows this to come into the public sphere. [ speaking alternate language ] we get that audio streaming up before the election. there might be some legal fights that get you there. >> that's what's so disappointing about his role. he knows there is no credible argument to be made for the privilege that somehow this is the president who shall not be heard even though you release the transcript. it's ridiculous on its face. but he also knows any litigation will go beyond the election. and this is exactly what he said you wouldn't do. this is politics raw and simple. >> want to get a quick reaction
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with his 3-year-old picture showing a flag being flown upside down january 2021, i talked to the justice league this week and i got the back story, clearly there is some heated back and forth with a neighbor who he says called her the seaward she held a flag upside down and he said you and nothing to do with it and it was there for a short time. -- he say she should recruit herself immediately with the insurrection being donald trump and there's others going further saying he should resign. >> all of this is absolutely ridiculous. i thought your reporting was excellent and you did show that there is a real back story here. this was an issue with neighbors with the vulgar and aggressive peace. this is what drove all of this. this was not a political statement by the justice with any stretch of the examination. assuming that happened years ago and now people are making in my view absolutely ridiculous
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demands and it's different from how they try to betray him. >> i don't remember him coming out with ruth bader ginsburg when she attacked trump and said oh my gosh you should recuse herself from these cases. the only way to get there is you make those and say he's lying, the facts are not as stated. that's not a standard! once again, it's just an impulse political move. this is tearing down a court that plays a vital role of this country. >> always published to have you, thank you. up next, the house rebukes the president passing the partisan legislation that would force the white house to provide weapons to israel and the president says he will not send. you will hear voices from both sides of the aisle. currently in israel and massachusetts democrat they will join us next. ♪
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♪ ♪ >> israeli forces say the body of another hostage has been recovered from gaza. it's in edition to the bodies of three hostages israel confirmed and found on friday. more than a hundred hostages are still unaccounted for as israel's look -- war with hamas continues. israel still indicate they will send more forces into raw file. trucks carrying eight are now using us build. with incoming ships and into gaza. the house conference chair is in israel today and she spoke to the israeli group this morning. days after the house advanced a bill to reverse the paws on certain us weapons to israel. in a moment we'll bring in the
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congresswoman as well as massachusetts democrat but first let's turn to a correspondent in tel aviv israel. hello tray. >> good morning. the search for hostages continues as israel ramps up there air and ground campaign against gaza. >> on their hands and knees. palestinian rescue workers date through the wreckage of a building in northern gaza. they are looking for survivors in the aftermath of an israeli airstrike. with the simple tools and capabilities our team is trying to get this woman out from under the rubble. that's what the rescuer says. we hope she'll be alive. those who survived the bombing are brought to a nearby hospital that is flooded with injured patients. the triage area overflowing into the adjoining streets. northern gaza is once again at the heart of the war. more than 225 days into the conflict israeli soldiers are conducting new clearing operations in the area.
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they are going after hamas cells that have regrouped in recent weeks. further south palestinian civilians carry boxes of aid along the mediterranean sea. after weeks of construction, a floating american. is now providing much needed humanitarian supply to the gazan people who have next -- mixed feelings about the us support. we don't need aid one man says. we need a cease-fire. such a cease-fire is unlikely to happen in the days ahead as the israeli army pushes deeper into gaza southernmost city of rafah. where this weekend israel announced they had recovered the bodies of four hostages who were killed by hamas. >> there is a hundred and 28 abductees still being held in gaza. that's what the admiral says. >> reporter: overnight thousands gathered in tel aviv to call for the release of the remaining israeli hostages. shannon? >> très reporting from israel, thank you very much.
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turning is not from jerusalem is the house or publican conference chair congresswoman, while the back to fox news sunday. >> it's great to be with you shannon from the internal capital of israel jerusalem. >> you are not alone there with the national security advisor, they are also there and we'll be meeting with the group says you have been. and john kirby said this week, we recognize israel's right and responsibility he says to go after hamas that goes into rafah but he added this... >> how they do this matters and that's for the conversations we also want to have. about going after this to -- terrace capability in a way that is targeted and purse ice and quite frankly effective. >> shannon: they have these conversations only say that the us weapons are being used in violation of international laws and us laws. what about the conversations between the us and israel? >> first of all they have
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equated dated on their support. one of the main focus is on my speech was that the american people's strengths taunt -- stand strong as well as the house or publican's. we pass this week on the house floor our condemnation of joe biden withholding precision guided munitions that they overwhelmingly passed and supported in the israel aid package. we had the equivocation after equivocation or weather calling for a new leader replacing netenyahu, that's not the place the type of leadership we need to be seen from the highest levels of united states america and that's one of the focuses i had today. sitting strong with them during the time of x. essential need. october 7th was the bloodiest day for the jewish people since the holocaust. you want to make sure that they have all the resources, when it comes to eradicating hamas. >> what about the issue palestinians in the gazan
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territory. tens of thousands of people injured and killed. is this not part of the calculation as well? >> hamas uses civilians as civilian shields. they are using civilians to try and protect them from israel targeting hamas leadership. israel has great respect when it comes to human rights and that is how they have conducted all of their operations. that's why the united states stand strongly with israel and this is why we need to be a voice of truth as there is anti-semetic propaganda being shared around the world and being shared by perpetrators. >> you this past bipartisan support of thing it was 16 democrats that joined you all and would force the a that's being approved with this rate to move forward. critics say this. they call an unprecedented attack when the ministrations legal obligation to conduct the arms transfers and lines with us and international law, the white house says the bill could raise
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concerns about infringement on the authorities under the article two of the constitution including his duties as commander and -- commander-in-chief with the executive power to have these foreign relations. would you feel the same way about this if it was a democratically controlled house and senate telling president biden or sorry, president trump, for example,, in a place like ukraine he needs to send munitions that he might not feel lined up with his foreign policy goals? >> first of all shanna, the bill he signed into law that congress overwhelmingly passed, he's not abiding by this bill, to the fact he signed and the law we passed that's congress' intent and it was an overwhelming vote of support. the fact he is withholding these very important defense resources to israel at the time, no this is about? this is about joe biden's failing polls in states like michigan. there is desperation politically shame on joe biden, it's a betrayal of the importance of the us israel alliance that's the most precious in the region.
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so it's about congressional intent and the law he said as the comment -- signed as the commander-in-chief is unacceptable and we condemn it and we will continue to stand up when it comes to standing strongly with israel. >> what about this concept we have recognized generally still late 1940s that partisan politics stop at the water's edge that we don't have people of the minority party overseeing and criticizing a sitting president. is this at the door now? >> i was invited talk with my work when it comes to combating anti- semitism in my strong record when it comes to us israel support. the world needs to know and israel needs to know that the house republican majority stands strongly with israel. is equivocation, this week failed leadership we are seeing from joe biden is now or the american people are the united states congresses and it's also not reflected of the legislation that we passed at joe biden signed into law. it's important for the world to here, the world is looking for moral leadership and its import
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at the house publican stand up to fill this void which we have under the speaker johnson's leadership. >> on talk to about the stakes. your name is thrown out as being on the shortlist potentially that this trip might be part of an audition, the new york times to the lengthy piece where they talk about your transformation and they say its from some one who is not portable president trump to someone who is full hardly supporting him. it's -- you called him a whack job at one point in the ad this, in august when he 15, she told in new york where you station he was insulting to women in his cannon st -- his candidacy would not try female voters. according to a former friend they continued that she thought trump was too awful and ridiculous to be taken seriously. her revisionism still shocks those who have known her the longest and whomever the disdain she expressed for mr trump back then so the question is why did you change your mind about president trump? >> well it's a disgrace you would quote the new york times with nameless and faceless
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people. >> their phone your friends so... >> shannon they are not quoting my friends. those names are not included because they are false mirrors. >> to be fair there is a number of name. >> shannon no, shannon. money correct it. >> people can read it for themselves. >> this is a false mirror let me tell you a fact, in 2016 i was attacked as the only electorate republican from the northeast who voted for donald trump. they spent thousands -- hundred thousand dollars attack me for this factor to satan support him as just false. i've been proud we want the strongest supporters going back to when he ran for 2016 which is when it was my first reelection to the house. i strongly supported him, he will be the next president of the unit states, the american people know that, my constituents know this, and i'm proud to be one of his strongest allies in congress. i have always put my district first. and this is an opportunity for us to stop the failures of joe biden elected president who led
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to a strong booming economy. >> shannon: i understand where you are now. let me ask you. >> my record stands. >> shannon: they quote you want to radio station calling you -- calling them insulting to women. is that a misquote, do not say that? >> i said the statement that the democrats leaked out in 2016 that that was insulting, however shanna, i stood by and supported him and i strongly support him and he has done so much to promote women in senior positions as well as promote women's economic opportunity that we experience under the four years of his administration. so i have been proud to support him, it's a disgrace that you would take a new york times article and just read negative quotes when i was the only republican elected woman from the northeast who voted for him in 2016 who was strongly supporting him and i'm proud to be one of his strongest allies today. >> shannon: okay, we know where you are today, folks can read the article for themselves are plenty of names of people that went on the record and we will leave it there. clearly you are supportive of him now and we will track and
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follow. >> as i was supportive of him then shannon in 2016 as you know. i hope you will tell the viewers that as well which i voted for him and cargo romper and i was attacked for doing so. >> shannon: we always appreciate time, safe travels. >> thanks. >> shannon: joining us now almost -- massachusetts, good to see you! >> good morning. >> shannon: i want to start a lot of what the congresswoman had to say the basis of her trip she said listen, the president is not sending things including a bill you guys past and he signs. you wrote this in a statement that was on x a few weeks ago it's regrettable the bye demonstrations recent withholding of certain munitions has created the perception of divergence between the us and his closest allies in the middle east. days ago you voted against the bill that the congresswoman reference there. if you feel this way and you are worried about the perception and these are things that they prove, why did you vote know?
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>> because it's a perception, not the reality. the ministration has approved more than a hundred weapons transfers to israel. and joe biden's ironclad and his supports of the us and israel relationship. and if i remember of the seniors really official i would be asking myself how long until you equivocate because let some of that two years ago, when russia invaded ukraine she was with democracy and then donald trump decided to fan boy all over vladimir putin and her support crumbled and she voted against aid for ukraine just a month ago. and she will do the same thing for all of our allies if donald trump dictates. we just saw her. >> shannon: wait. >> she was trying to defend her flip-flopping and she would do the same for any other ally. she's contracted to president biden. >> shannon: she isn't not here to answer on the issue of ukraine and i know that there is a number of reasons people voted
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against the aid packages. but let's stick to israel for just a minute. she says its confusing to israel, there is mixed messages, the president has said there are certain things he will not censor while these transfers are continuing, fair to say he's publicly indicating he's not going to send everything you guys approved and the bill he signed to send. >> the prep -- the prime -- president has said you will give all this eight. >> not every weapon. >> what he is saying is i need a plan. and shanna, i have fought with these wars overseas and i've seen many of military operations divorce from a political endgame you can win every firefight, but you could lose the war. i want israel to win this war, i want israel to defeat hamas. so does the israeli war cabinet. there's three voting members and two out of the three i grew president biden, not with netenyahu. they want to see our governance alternatives in north central and southern gaza that actually extinguishes the political capital that hamas relies on.
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>> let me ask you quickly. you both are from harvard i know you are concerned about what's going on on campus with the anti-semetic demonstrations and you visited campus, you've said that there is things you believe are in violation of the federal law. here's the antidefamation league giving harvard and f. how they're dealing with this. given that you think they're in violation of federal law should they lose federal funding? >> needs to be on the table shannon. harvard and other universities unfortunately have become ransacked by anti-semitism. i see them my conversations with israeli and jewish students, i have seen the pattern and they need to look at their culture from the first principles and actually create a culture of open discourse and free-speech and mutual respect with people
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pursuing truth and everyone regardless of our -- origin or sex or race can have a suitable learning environment. right now harvard is failing. this is why after they reported those failing rates i sent letters to the au universities and ask them for an action plan by may 17th which they have returned and we are now reviewing with the adl to make sure over the summer they get their house in order. >> shannon: you mentioned you served with the marines, my fate -- late father would be very proud we are all thank for that. i want to ask you another hotspot because general brown who is the head of the joint chiefs, he is the chairman, he was asked about a deployment of the nato traders into ukraine and they said know on that so far. what he did seem to indicate this would be inevitable saying we will get there eventually. that's a quote from him. is a go to thursday, as part of nato, the us would be obligated under the alliance is treat -- treaty potentially dragging america into the war. because you served in uniform, i worried about -- are you about this possibility? >> this possibility always has
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to be a contingency with those details here. where they deployed, is it west or eastern ukraine, is a military uniform or not,'s roller they embedded with this are they behind the front lines, those details matter with this here. what i think is clear and apparent is wright now the united states needs to authorize ukraine to use the long-range weapons we are providing them to strike energy industrial troop staging sites with the heartland itself because wright now ukraine is not able to punch back from the hits that russia's giving them. we need to unleash ukraine to bring the war to vladimir putin. >> shannon: do you think about the same with unleashing israel? >> israel has the entire scope of the latitude they need to wage this war. they have the munitions, is under the law of the armed conflict within the bounds to eradicate hamas as is the goal. but you cannot defeat hamas just with military operations.
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you need to do with the governance alternative and this is with working with air of european and those americans to support palestinian governance. >> we'll be very difficult work. thank you for your service. no easy solutions. thank you sir. all right, next. georgia. the president is there in hbc you working on the commencement as he makes his campaign to show up support among black voters be appealing on this in the two rivals finally agreed to meet up on the debate stage will bring in the sunday panel to see who is gay and the better end of thb deal. next.solutely i ♪
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♪ >> we are back with a fox news alert iranian state tv says a helicopter carrying the raney and president had what they're calling a rough landing. we're getting some conflicting reports, it's unclear if there is any injuries but rescue crews are poorly on there weigh to this site. they are currently having some difficulty because of weather. info coming in is for april in an area but we'll keep you updated here and on the fox news channel. president biden will get the commitment -- commencement speech this morning we have a lively the campus get to the president their own stage ahead
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of his remarks this invite did not come with a backlash some did right to leadership asking them to rescind the invitational are present about in support of israel among other things. for more on this is go to tomlinson the white house. >> reporter: president biden just walked out where he's addressing the students. the all-male school there's two demographics he needs to win reelection in 2024. >> elmeligi loser. [ laughter ] -- my opponents not -- not a good loser but he is a loser. [ laughter ] >> reporter: you trying to meet with black voters after some have left him for donald trump. according to the swing staple voters, biden has lost 20% of the black vote in the past four years. for president donald trump has seen a 15-point bump.
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atlanta biden says the poles are not accurate. >> people say how we are behind in the polls but so far they have not been write once. we're either tires lady behind were slightly ahead. >> reporter: some think it's too late for him to woo black voters. >> the problem is the speed -- no speech that he gives will change the fact that he has wrecked the economy for all americans. >> reporter: both of the democratic senators greeted biden biden when he arrived. trump won the state in 2016, trump nearly lost to biden into a 20. trump spent part of the weekend in minnesota. no longer a safe blue state accord to the democratic congressman former presidential candidate dean phillips. >> conversations with centre-right and centre-left voters are telling me that they are shifting perspectives and they are encouraging the biting campaign to really wake up.
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>> they are prepared to a pair of debates the first one next month on june 27. >> reporting live at the white house, time what this with her sunday group and the correspondence. >> the fox news senior political analyst former chief of staff with a ruthless podcast josh holmes and mario parker. bloomberg managing editor for economy and government. welcome everyone! i just want to put up a list of president biden's outreach this week to where he says he needs to shore up with black voters. radio interviews with black journalists and then also from those with brown and the nwac p. events at the history museum astarte event in georgia this it was focus on engaging black voters, commencement were watching this morning in the white house and he will head to detroit for the freedom dinner. from the biden and harris teen they say no other ministration in history has delivered for
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black america in the way joe biden kamala harris have. we are nodding we will not and they say that they are running with this being the defenses. >> we just heard him saying that the poles are not correct. if anything just in terms over the past week it shows that he does believe the polls given that there is snapshots the fact he is done all this research shows that they believe the polls at this point. and just speaking with black voters, you can tell some of these things are not true. -- are true. inflation of the root of it. that's lead to frustration exasperation and now you are saying look at trump as an alternative or just sitting out the election. that's a problem for biden in places like atlanta and detroit milwaukee and philadelphia. >> even if they don't feel there has been cross over there has been some will put up the poll numbers but also see issue for people staying home and to this point, they talk would all these advancements and say this, he
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leans heavily on a civil rights focus that might not be especially relevant to the young and politically unengaged voters who were dissatisfied with biden >> i think what you got to understand is you're talking principally about this. if you really break it down its young black men i think they are asking what has biden done for me? and they don't pay attention till it's almost election day. and i think the onus here is on the biting campaign. they have that money to organize and when they have that over president biden. over for president trump so they have that money to organize, and they have a message to get out. if you really stop and look, it's pretty impressive in terms of the piece being a record low and the black unity, you look at things like biden and the
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democrats fighting the republicans on student debt, get out the vote on policing and holding police accountable for brutality in the aftermath of george floyd, these are real strong messages. but you have to be aggressive and deliver the message! and i think that's what biden has been doing this week. >> shannon: they also give another 40 million-dollar piece on what they have been doing, this is specifically aimed at reaching voters of color in the battleground states and they are sending out the congressman who was a key to success for president biden back in 2020. >> yes, he was responsible for him dominating in the democratic party to begin with. i think the core of all of these is just the pool numbers there is a relatability issue with joe biden for anyone operating outside of assisted living at this point. one of the black or young cutie, generational he this has become a massive problem he's entirely right in the economy is sort about the core of this, but his ability, what we were talking about they need to aggressively make the case, i kind of agree
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but i don't know of joe biden is capable of doing that at this point. he had this old sort of uncle joe you know where he's a caretaker pitch in 2020 and one sorta bought it. we had four years on the record now in four years of aging, and we have seen sort of a comp achata all that. >> that's what has to be a choice election for joe biden. he's like meatloaf and vanilla ice cream you don't need -- you like it but not like that. yes assay look at the alternative men! look at this! >> nothing that's a lot of what they have been saying is this guy, they both say its a threat to democracy if you don't like me. so i think there's a lot of finger-pointing. our new fox news polls for biden among key groups at the top the list we had the black voters where he has lost seven points since he was running and fall of 2020. new york times of their own polls out a few days ago that said this. mr trump wins when the 20% of black voters i tally that would be the highest level black
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support for any republican presidential candidate since the enactment of the civil rights act in 1964. how worried is the white house about this do agree that they are looking at the polls? >> biden actually in the same remarks that he said his he was looking at likely voters so he's definitely doing his own deep dive on this polling and he also said that georgia is the reason that he want -- won the last election. he's very well aware. they have been putting out surrogates and now they have added to this with the president, the vise president they are hitting up these major battleground states, i was just in georgia a few weeks ago with vice president kamala harris who is now focusing on the economy and launching an economic tour aimed at the black community, and shanna, i just want to say when you look at those numbers for president biden, the new york time fuel shows a much steeper drop-off than even the fox news polls shows more than 20 points for joe biden and to that point, primarily losing them in the noncollege educated
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category. and that is very significant for him. >> shannon: really have a few seconds, now that they have agreed to a couple debates, who let the better end of this deal? both sides are claiming victory. who things a president biden bestie president trump and what they have agreed to so far? okay, one. what about the rest of you? do you think president trump has an edge because he got him to agree to it? >> president trump has the edge, the president walk me debate three months early. >> want to vote quickly? >> they want to shift attention away from the trump trial, meanwhile the biting campaign wants to break through all of the logjam as well as create a moment for president biden early on in this campaign. >> limited number of debates, frenzy media. >> i'm saying trump. >> okay, don't go anywhere, we've away the backlash with the commencement speech with the rating super bowl champs are taken into the controversy when we come back. ♪
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>> it's only the last few years i've grown to speak. as i mentioned earlier blood into my vocation as a husband and father. and as a man. >> shannon: the city chiefs
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kicker is drawing controversy from some first faith-based views on social issues. we're back with our panel to talk about it. huffington post the opinion editor wrote it this way, it was man's planing couch in biblical text how most mega christians use the bible. with this it was sexism entrance will be at face value and ignoring the bits about being a kind and decent person. [ laughter ] >> oh where do we begin. [ laughter ] >> what i find so fascinating as it pertains to this that you just read is the same people that have such a problem with what he said. largely pertaining to women in the workplace and that kind of thing. and a real soft spot for hamas in gaza so there's some ideological consistencies -- inconsistencies with this point in the world. i have a hard time getting worked up about commencement speeches i'll be honest with you. if it criteria was you had to agree with everything they said,
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i'm not sure anyone of us would have been able to attend one. i think if you look around the country's ocean off a lot of this going on. the kicker from the kansas city chiefs is foremost amongst them is anyone's guess. >> shannon: and i went want to speeches turning minutes, it's not long and you get much more context i think if you do that. there was a point where he talks about his wife and her decision to be a homemaker though she's also educated. he got very teary-eyed and choked up an emotional had to stop when he was talking about her in the place went crazy with applause. so this is that audience. it was probably most receptive audience to what he had to say. the wife of the chiefs owner was also the director of the chief woman organization. didn't mention his name and instagram but said this. countless highly educate women guide their children and some would disagree -- someone disagree with you doesn't make them hateful it just means they have a different opinion, that celebrate families motherhood and fatherhood, whati thing this got to much backlash and attention? by the way, women with nfl
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jerseys with this names totally sold out and now he is the number-one selling jersey in the shop. >> in the white house was asked about this week as well. john. had basically saying biden is also criticized president joe biden. >> it's another piece of the speech with abortion rights and he suggest he's a bad catholic, and his comments as well, to the white house then commented and said biden's going to step down from his position in the position on abortion rights in particular resonated and you also a third member even though he gave this speech in kansas, is a state that in 2022 voted to reject -- reject abortion-rights so this is an issue that's largely favor democrats over the last couple years and that's where a lot of the focus has been. >> i myself am not catholic but watching the speech i was stunned how much he went after catholic leadership and the bishop that he called them out for what he felt was weakness during covid and all kinds of
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other things. that didn't get any attention, but he really went after the church as well! >> he did. i should say went to benedictine university. >> a different one. >> assam familiar with benedict in their teachings and their values. he was taken to task and he did take the chat -- take to task the church and by the debt -- benedictine sisterhood saying it doesn't espouse the values of the nomination that's more about unity and bring people together than division. >> i would give him the camp -- i've heard him give commencement addresses and i think it should be about the students and the parents and clearly he was not that. >> don't think he was saying that because it seemed the theme you try to get a student says its hard to set up as a religious person of faith and i'm telling you this is the time to do it. >> if they want talk in religious terms, can you imagine shannon if a muslim had stood up there and said things about a woman like that? it would've been a very
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different reaction in terms of the support from the conservative community for harrison. they would have been outraged! and you notice the nuns were outraged. >> shannon: let's come down the woman thing because he says congratulations or one getting your education or career might be the thank you do but he said i'm guessing that many of you was even more so into his motherhood and being a wife. >> it's possible! but my wife, my daughter, they are college-educated graduate school educated people. if you say to them ideally your best life is as a mom and a homemaker they would say that's not up to you, i will make that decision and we don't want you here talking to a group of woman who just worked hard and parents paid for their schooling to tell them all you are happy -- happiest in the home. that's insulting! >> shannon: all right, we'll leave it there on i have a speech coming up just to be there? >> no. [ laughter ] >> shannon: there's a lot of pressure now!
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i will get with you. [ laughter ] that he everyone, we'll see you next sunday and up next to look at the other commencement speakers and what they're sending graduates often to the rules -- world with profound device sometimes a little levity. >> i will give you my three real key steep life, no jokes. okay, they are number 1, bust you are asked -- your ass, number 3, fall in love .
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♪ >> shannon: as you know many college campuses have been in this polyp for protesting chaos in the past few weeks and in the midst of these challenging times commencement speakers are going across the country to inspire and challenge and encourage the next generation. ♪ >> you are graduating in challenging times, divided times. but so anything still bring us together as americans. our constitution, our democracy, the rule of law. the new beyonce album. [ laughter ]
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>> you have faced challenges, particularly the pandemic but you stayed the course and you are more resilient tyrion more focused and more prepared to make the world a better place. >> shannon: respect the need to be something that could be very, not what is expected being allegiance with yourself, draw strength from what you have to offer. >> if you want to walk on the water you have to get out of the boat. and take some risks. >> none of us were born with a red tag on her big toe that says leaders. we are taught how to lead and make those around us better than
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us. >> they've all been educated to be leaders and followers, don't do whatever what else tells you were does. thank for yourself and decide what is write and wrong. >> in a world where it's polarizing met with hostility, never underestimate the power of your voice to spark change and challenge the status quo. >> i can imagine how sick you are of hearing about following your passion i say to hell with passion. find something you can do that would be great. [ laughter ] if you try something and it doesn't work, that's okay too! >> that is so true, keep trying to find the right thank you had to pay the bills but it's good have passion in your life too. congrats again to all the class of 2020 for. by the way, a live look as biden prepares to give the commencement speech with the
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university there they say that they will except protest but if it gets in a hand in room today for everyone he will shut it down. will keep an eye on this, see how it goes, a quick note that my podcast livin' the bream drops today. i sat down with scott morrison this week and we talked about his new book. plans for your good. appointment shows testimony about faithfulness. that is out tuesday. his book with a podcast out now and he will also join us on the show. that is it for us today, thank you for joining us, i'm shannon bream and have a wonderful week we will see you next fox news sunday. a slow network is no network for business. that's why more choose comcast business. and now, we're introducing ultimate speed for business —our fastest plans yet. we're up to 12 times faster than verizon, at&t, and t-mobile. and existing customers could even get up to triple the speeds... at no additional cost. it's ultimate speed for ultimate business. don't miss out on our fastest speed plans yet! switch to comcast business and get started for $49.99 a month.
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