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everybody. >> shannon: i'm shannon bream. mass shooting at a supermarket in new york and abortionmerge as a flash point in the midterm elections as pennsylvania prepares for its turn in the primary spotlight. >> shannon: a march to the steps of the supreme court after a leaked draft opinion signals justices are poised to overturn roe. >> we will sta with the american people. stand with innocent life. hannon: while a move by democrats to pass a bill making a right to an abortion national law fails to pass. >> this vote clearly suggests that the senate is not where the majority of americans are on this issue. >> shannon: now the debate
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shifts to the states. this hour, we'll talk with two state leaders. oklahoma governor kevin stitt where abortion is now banned after six weeks. and colorado's jared polis w state has expanded abortion with virtually no limits. plus, a nationwide shortage of baby formula has parents and washington scrambling for answers. >> baby is crying. the baby is hungry. we need to address it right >> this administration should be looking at everythinand anything. we have heard absolutely >> shannon: we'll ask the panel about the political fallout over formula. and -- >> stakes are high. stakes are high. >> shannon: the pennsylvania republican senate primary now a three-way race as the conservative candidate suddenly surges. >> if i lose, you lose. >> shannon: we'll ask kathy barnette about her last minute surge and scny from fellow republicans. and we talk to voters in our road trip across the keystone state in this week's "road to the midterms." >> do you think people are going to take what's happened to their wallet and go to the polls and
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then try to -- >> i hopey do. >> shannon: all right now on "foxs sunday." >> shannon: hello again from fox news in washington. we will get to the national debate over abortion in just a minute but first, breaking news. a horrific scene of violence in western new york. authorities saying a white 18-year-old gunman wearing military gear opened fire on a supermarket in a predominantly black neighborhood in buffalo killing 10 people. wounding three others. the suspect livestreaming it all with a helmet camera. let's go straight to the scene for the latest from alexis mcadams. >> that's right. a horrible scene here in buffalo, new york, as this community inues to grieve the loss of so many innocent lives. investigators say this was a racially motivated attack here in buffalo, new york. sources telling us that the gunman had an on-line manifesto detailing this attack and his
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plans that he had posted on line. take a look on your screen. this is a photo of the suspected gunman now given to us just last night by police. buffalo police say they've identified the gunman as 18-year-old payton gendrin. hours after that shooting, the teen was arraigned on first degree murder charges. investigators say he drove more than three hours from his small rural hometown down state to carry out the deadliest mass shooting in buffalo's history. now the shooting happened around 2:30 saturday afternoon at this tops grocery store in buffalo. you can see that crime scene there. first, police say he shot three people in the parking lot and then 10 more inside. officers say he was armed with an assault rifle and dressed in tactical gear from head to toe. investigators tell us of the 13 people shot, 11 were black. >> this was pure evil. it was straight up racially motivated hate crime from somebody outside of our community, outside of the city
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of good neighbors as the mayor said, coming into our community and trying tinflict that evil upon us. >> tonight, the suspect will be behind bars. and will be back on court on thursday. president biden did condemn the shooting in a tweet saying, in part, we must do everything we can to end hate fuelled domestic terrorism. >> shannon: thank you. now, the debate over abortion. breaking wide open with the leak of a draft majority opinion that indicates the supreme court could soon overturn roe v. wade. pro choice proponents marching to the steps of the high court this weekend. democrats retooling their midterm message and now the fight shifting to the halls of congress and statehouses across the country. in a moment, we'll be joined by two governors whose states are dealing with the issue very differently. jared polis of colorado and kevin stitt of oklahoma. let's turn tcas thompson with the latest from the biden
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administration. s? >> shannon, justice clarence thomas has called the leak kind of an infidelity that has shredded the trust among the justices. at rallies across the country, protesters voiced their outrage. crowds descending on the national mall and in major cities across the country. spurred to action as a direct result of the leaked draft opinion. democratic lawmakers attacking the court's conservative majority. >> we all know this is a crisis moment. the radical supreme court justices and right wing extremists are making it clear that they won't stop until a nationwide ban is enacted. >> protesters continue to march in front of the homes of conservative justices. many republicans and some democrats want president biden's attorney general to stop them. >> it is unlawful. it is against the law in this country to protest a sitting judge. >> the motion is not agreed to.
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>> democratic leaders tried to make abortion a constitutional right. the vote falling well short of the 60 needed to clear a procedural hurdle. >> sadly, the senate failed to stand in defense of a woman's right to make decisions about her own body. >> red states planning to target the procedure. blue states rushing to protect abortion rights. in six states, including colorado, there are no abon restrictions. a baby formula shortage now the latest problem for the white house. on top of record setting inflation that remains close to a 40-year high. empty shelves sending parents scrambling. in some cases calling friends and family in other states to check availability. in her final news conference as press secretary, jen psaki say the white house saw this lt crisis brewing. >> what i'll note is there has been work ongoinr this for months. >> two weeks from now, house democrats plan to hold a hearing to discuss the baby formula crisis. shannon? >> shannon: lucas reporting from the white house.
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thank you. joining us now from oklahoma city irepublican governor kevin stitt. governor, welcome to "fox news sunday." >> thanks, shannon. thanks for having me on. >> shannon: all right, with the appearance from this leaked draft opinion, if it remains and becomes the majority opinion, that roe may be going down, you've signed a trigger law that would make it a felony to perform abortion punishable up to 10 years in jail and $100,000 in fines. a doctor who performs abortions in oklahoma says this, these laws are being created by people who have no medical expertise and not being created with patients' safety or medical outcomes in mind. they're created entirely to control bodies. your response? >> well, my response is i represent four million oklahomans. i don't know how much clearer we can be. we believe life begins at conception and we're going to protect life in oklahoma. you know, there were 5,000 just in oklahoma alone, 5,000 unborn children that were killed last year. and we don't believe that in
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oklahoma. other states can do things differently but we're going to stand for life in the state of oklahoma. >> shannon: a group called the frontier, journalistic group has looked into what they say some fact checks on what you're saying about people in oklahoma feel about abortion. they cite a research study and says most recent numbers they have from 2014 found that 51% of oklahoman respondents believed abortion should be legal in all or most cases. so within the last few years, they say your state was pretty evenly split on this issue, actually. of those different facts or me those newspapers thau're quoting are not what we find with the people in oklahoma. these bills, the representatives are elected from all over the state of oklahoma. probably 80% to 90% passage in r state. i totally disagree with those numbers. >> shannon: let's talk about another law that you signed much like texas allows for private clause of action who completes or facilitates an abortion,
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including somebody who pays for one after a heartbeais detected roughly six weeks. we have brand new fox polling on this and how peoe feel about at that six-week mark. about 50% they say at six weeks they think abortion should remain legal. the argument is a victim may not know at six weeks she is pregnant. what do you say to a woman who finds herself in that situation, lives in your state and feels like she's got no options? >> well, first off, super compassionate about that. i have daughters, cannot even imagine what that would be like and that hardship. but you have to choose -- that is a human being inside the womb. and we're going to do everything we can to protect life and love both the mother and the child. and we don't think that killing one to protect another is the right thing to do either. and our heart is super compassionate about that. we want the chu churches, the
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service, the nonprofits to come around with adoption services and that is -- that's super, super hard. and we're going to do everything we can to help them. but aborting that child we don't think is the right thing to do. >> shannon: ok, let's talk through some of those issues. as you know it's one of the main critiques of the pro life tion. in oklahoma to look at the stats of what a woman is facing there with a child, 21.3% of children live below the poverty line. 71% of snap participants are in families with children. and oklahoma ranked 42nd overall in child well being. a "washington post" opinion headline puts it this way. the g.o.p. roars about abortion, then they abandon the children. so what is the plan in oklahoma to help women if you're advising them to carry through on these pregnancies when they are up against some real challenges? >> well, i mean, here's the deal. is the answer to the socialist
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democrat lef abort poor kids? i mean, that's just ridiculous to even kind of quote those types of stats. we have a free market in oklahoma. we believe thagod has a special plan for every single life and every singlild and we want everybody to have the same opportunities in oklahoma. and aborting a child is not the right answer. >> shannon: i want to ask you how this may tie in with a recent supreme court decision. the decision from 2020 says, basically, crimes that are committed that take place on a reservation, they will be by native americans, they're going to face prosecution in a tribal or federal court. it's not going to be something that the state can prosecute. now there are questions about do you think there would be doctors who would say, well, we can get around these state laws. we can perform abortions on reservations. people can come to us if that's the care they want to seek. >> well, that's someg that a lot of oklahomans we've heard the rumblings as well. you know, the tribes in oklahoma are super liberal. they go to washington, d.c. they talk to president biden at
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the white house, they kind of adopt those strategies. so yeah, we think that there's a possibility that some tribes may try to set up abortion on demand. they think that you can be 1/1,000th tribal member and not have to follow the state law. and so that's something that we're watching. but i'll tell you this, oklahomans will not think very well of that if the tribes try to start up abortion clinics and abortion on demand in eastern oklahoma because the expansion of tribal lands includes the city of tulsa now whicis a million person m.s.a. >> shannon: i want to talk further of this issue of the tribal lands, separation there. nearly half of all oklahoma land are part of a reservation. you vetoed a bill that would have required the state to recognize tribal convictions in the same way it acts upon convictifrom, say, state municipal courts. it had 96% support from your legislature. the intertribal council of the
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five civilized tribes said this, it's unfortunate that governor vetoed the public safety bill. we welcome opportunities to collaborate and work together. our governor continues to be uncooperative and unwilling. so i want to give you a chance to explain why you vetoed that and what's going on there. >> yeah, first off, that wasn't a bill that i requested. that wasn't a bill that the department of public safety requested. that was a tribal bill that were trying to get across the finish line and it didn't reciprocate. they were wanting the state of oklahoma to accept all tribal convictions whether they had jurisdiction or not but it wasn't reciprocate they weren't willing to take on the state side as well. we're not going to expand tribal jurisdiction in the ste of oklahoma. we want to have an honest conversation. really the question should be asked, why were the tribes fighting the state of oklahoma to protect native victims in the u.s. supreme court? we argued before the supreme court the tribes fought the
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state from trying to protect and prosecute a bad guy that wasn't even native to protect the native victims. so again, we're for law and order in eastern oklahoma. they're trying to confuse the siion. oklahomans want to protect and the crimes in eastern oklahoma and right now, they're telling us we don't have that right. >> shannon: we appreciate your time. thank you so much for joining us today. >> thanks, shannon. >> shannon: up next, another state. another perspective. colorado governor jared polis joins us next. ♪ helping them discover their dreams is one of the best parts of being a parent. one of the most important is giving them ways to fulfill them. for over 150 years, generas have trusted
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>> shannon: six years before roe v. wade became the law of the land, colorado became the first state to decriminalize abortion and now it finds itself on the front lines right now. joining us now is governor jared polis. welcome back to "fox news sunday." governor? >> good morning, shannon. >> shannon: this is what you've recently signed into law reproductive health equity act states simply a pregnant individual has a fundamental right to continue their pregnancy and give birth or have an abortion. i don't see any structures related to weeks or trimesters. does that mean in colorado now
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there's a right to abortioup to birth? >> well, we did here is we preserved essentially the roe vs. wade protection in colorado because fundamentally, shannon, what we believe is this is not about the government making that decision. it's about women making that decisi and to sort of win this battle, it's about the hearts and minds of women. not the laws of men. >> shannon: is there a limit on abortion up through nine months in colorado? >> it's the same as it has been the last several decades. people face gut wrenching decisions every day whether it's rape or incest, they're often having to choose between the life of the mother and child. for the government to insert itself in that conversation between a doctor and a woman, a faith leader and a woman, is simply wrong. i think we need to approach this a different way. i think there's a lot of common ground around reducing unwanted pregnancies, empowering women and men with birth control. and really generating a culture
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of responsibility about what it means to be a parent. >> shannon: ok, and i will take that as a yes, that there is an option for abortion up to birth. let's talk about that because one a.p. poll by framework, they said should it be legal or illegal? at 80% when we get into the third trimester, people say it usually should be illegal. "the new york times" noted in an article updated this may, the united states is one of over a dozen countries that allows abortions for any reason beyond 15 weeks of pregnancy, north korea and china. is that the company that colorado wants to be in? >> it was on the ballot and overwhelmingly rejected banning third trimester abortions and that's because people know how painstaking and difficult that is. when you know that, you know, you might be near birth and find out your baby doesn't have lungs and won't live for more than a few minutes outside of the womb. i mean, this is a really
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difficult thing that women face. and the right answer is, of course, to make sure that we trust people to make that decision and people have the freedom to do that. we don't say big governments are going to insert itself and tell them how to handle something that sadly really doesn't have a right answer. >> shannon: we asked simply, do people think that abortion should be legal or illegal? just straight up question and our latest fox news polling, 44% said legal. 54% said illegal. that's the lowest number we've tracked for legal and it's the first time illegal has polled above 50% so there in colorado, conservative leaders say these are the kind of numbers that are their side. jeff hunt, director of the centennial institute says my contention is the trend is with us. we may lose the battles but we'll win the war in the state. they're talking about ba measures for 2024. are you worried about your work being undone in coming elections? >> not particularly. it's been on the ballot, as i had, as recently as a year and a half ago. voters agreed that the government should not interfere
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with this basic freedom and this sic decision. it really is in the realm of conscience it's in the realm of how women understand that there's options. by the way, that includes adoption. we implemented free preschool in colorado. we're making daycare more affordable. we want to make sure that people know about these things. and, of course, we want to make sure that we can increase access to birth control and for both men and women. and really build that culture of responsibility and also, understanding the importance of consent for both men and women to help reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies. >> shannon: a federal law bans picketing and parades outside of the homes of judges in the midst of making decisions and intent of influencing them. "the washington post" has come out now against these pickets and demonstrions at supreme court justices' private homes, one of the top democrats in the senate dick durban has done as well. what is your position on these demonstrations? >> well, i certainly don't think that they're effective in
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persuading judges. in fact, it might further alienate them from a particular cause to be that aggressive. i think our judges, the men and women on the supreme cou, are really the embodiment of our highest and best judges are very thoughtful about how they look at the information. they look at the record. they make a decision. i've read a number of their decisions over time. and i think we want to keep that in the intellectual realm rather than drag them further into the political realm. >> shannon: let's talk about the economy that continues to poll as the top concern for americans across the board, across party lines, backgrounds, ages, all of that. there in denver specifically, they have got an inflationary payment above the national average that is already pretty toh for folks. the seventh highest among u.s. metro areas. take a look at some of the numbers that you're dealing with out there. 9% in food, housing at 8%. what more do you think the administration could be doing to deal with inflation? >> well, here, we're focused on tax relief, fee relief.
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we cut property taxes by $750 million. every coloradan is going to get a $500 rebate check. what i think that washington can focus on is, of course, fiscal responsibility, monetary policy. in addition to that, i'd like to see them drop some of the tariffs which add an additional inflationary pressure for consumer products across the country. >> shannon: during covid you were a bit of an outliar. you took heat from the left and thought you were too permissive when it came to things like masks and lockdowns and mandates. do you regret any of the decisions that you made now that we're closing in on a million covid deaths in the u.s.? >> you know, we value freedom in colorado. we always gave people the best information we could about the importance of wearing a medical grade mask indoors around others. we did an enormous statewide vaccination campaign and the risks are 10 times less if you're fully vaccinated. so again, it's been a difficult challenge everywhere. i think it's tragic that we've lost a million lives to this pandemic.
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but without being trusted purveyors of information and making that vaccine widely available, we'd be talking about several million people right now. >> shannon: governor, i got to ask you something totally random. i saw when we were prepping for the show. you said this about the unsolved jonbenet ramsay case, you said i can say one thing, the killer of jonbenet ramsay should not rest easily. i'm still optimistic that he or she will be apprehended with technology that exists today in five years or 10 years. do you think that case will be solved? >> we've had several great cold ca cases broke and technology is existing every day. they can take existing evidence and analyze it in new ways. i don't think anyone who committed a capital crime should rest easy because technology is making improvements and makes it likely to be able to apprehend the suspect and i'm very optimistic on that front. >> shannon: governor on a wide array of topics, always a pleasure speaking with you.
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thank you for being here today. >> thank you. >> shannon: up next, both democrats and republicans think they've got a shot at pennsylvania's open senate seat. come tuesday, we can know a lot more. plus one candidate's surprise late surge over big spending rivals is catching many folks by surprise. kathy barnette joins us live next. (vo) while you may not be a pediatric surgeon volunteering your topiary talents at a children's hospital — your life is just as unique. your raymond james financial advisor gets to know you, your passions, and the way you give back. so you can live your life. that's life well planned.
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>> shannon: "fox news sunday on the road to the mid terms. today in pennsylvania where it's a three-way race for the republican nomination for the senate seat left open by retiring sor pat toomey. oz, david mccormick and kathy barnette in a statistical dead heat. it was a much different picture in march with barnette pulling in the single digits. when it comes to enthusiasm, the subgroup of voters who say they're extremely interested in this election, barnette nearly tops both oz and mccormick who have collectively outspent her by millions. in a moment,ll speak with with kathy barnette about her sudden surge. first, alex takes us on a road trip across the state where she catches up with voters and campaigns. >> this time was so prosperous,
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there were stores and restaurants. this was like times square. >> this sits just east of pittsburgh in what was once known as the steel valley. >> once the mills went, i think a lot of sense of pride of the families went, too. >> the steel mill is a rare survivor of the industry's 1980s collapse. while still operatio its days as the town's lifeblood have long gone. directly across the street is what used to be a prominent car dealership. >> you have some experience with that, right? >> my dad bought a car there in e mid 1950's. >> it's now the home of democratic senate candidate john fetterman. >> we need to keep making [beep] in this country. >> fetterman is an outsized political figure in pennsylvania, a winner, perhaps in part, because he didn't lk the part. >> yes. yes. >> he spent 13 years as the mayor and then became lieutenant governor. >> those are more -- >> fetterman h so far held a comfortable lead in the primary race even as his opponent has
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called him too progressive. a pack backing him ran an ad calling fetterman a democratic socialist. did that hit the party as a whole, him using words like that? >> its connor's story, he can tell it the way he needs to. neither he nor i are socialists, viously. i guess, you know, when you have, you know, trouble in polls and money, you know, you say things that are desperate. >> the voter demographic in pennsylvania is nearly identical to the united states as a whole with the looks and leanings of each region differing greatly. so as the candidates put in the miles, so did we. >> these campaigns, a lot of them have been traveling for like 100 days now. go to the v.f.w.'s and diners and hope that the lol officials along the way will endorse you. >> we caught one republican senate candidate david mccormick at a campaign stop outside of philadelphia. oing to be close. so thank you for being here. >> a former hedge fund c.e.o., mccormick is facing a very tight
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primary race. >> stakes are high. stakes are high. >> for the majority of this campaign, mccormick has been polling neck and neck with a pretty distinct character, celebrity heart surgeon dr. mehmet oz. >> when you're making the case for those who are still avid supporters of former president trump, how are you balancing winning them over still without the endorsement? >> he's very popular, and mehmet oz isn't very popular. his positions don't line up with primary voters. >> road tripping to the other side of the state, we would discuss this with dr. oz but first, we paid a visit to someone within a group of increasingly coveted voters. beth ann is a suburban mom. >> i have been liberal democrat for 34 years. >> but that changed during the pandemic as she felt covid school closures and mask mandates dealt too heavily of a burden on families. because of that, she says parents' eyes were open to polind curriculum issues. >> if they had just opened the schools, all of us parents would have just gone back to our jobs
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and our lives and stopped paying attention. >> she said crime and inflation have become issues weighing heavily on families. >> i went to t grocery store, you know, i d three little bags of groceries and it was over $100. >> the latest university poll puts inflation at the top of republican voters' concerns followed by illegal immigration which many see as contributing to drug smuggling and worsening a glaring opioid epidemic. a less than two-hour drive west and the contrast within the commonwealth become more vivid. lancaster county is home to the country's largest amish population. they shy away from showing their faces on camera, but in recent years have broken tradition by showing up to the polls. almost always in favor of republican candidates. and further west where there are a lot more cars to fill up -- >> just working class people. blue collar people. >> rising costs erall begin at the fuel pump. >> you have to get diesel which
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-- you have to make sure that you can afford your food. >> do you think people are going to take what's happened to their wallet and go to the polls and try to -->> i hope they do. >> among democrats, the issue of abortion ao suddenly re-emerged as a rallying cry. >> can't just sit back and relax and assume that things will continue on the same way that they have. >> i think it should be a very concerning moment for all americans and i'm hoping it will bring people out to the polls. >> pennsylvania, we're going to have a lot of fun! n the republican side, a different rallying cry. >> dr. oz! >> former president donald trump throwing his weight behind dr. oz. >> thank you for the endorsement. >> probably be voting for dr. oz, you know, even though i heard he is a liberal as far as abortion is concerned. >> dr. oz. >> back in wes pennsylvania, oz greeted fans and undecided voters assuring them that he believes life begins at conception. >> there are kinds of people who are confused because after $30
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million of negative ads, you can confuse people. >> prior to our sitdown interview, i mentioned that i had felt light headed early in the week and in true form. despite a career in medicine and tv, oz says the former president's backing proves he's the right choice. >> said i am smart, tough, i will never let you down. he wrote that to address the folks that are saying what you're saying. which is, you know, oz is, you know, trump endorsement, is he really the right person? yeah, he is. >> but in recent weeks, another serious bur less well funded republican contender has emerged. former congressional primary candidate kathy barnette. >> these other candidates are you've now seethis surge.hat >> haven't been vicious. i've been focused, right? and they're mad now that i've ran a far superior campaign. little old me. they didn't expect it. >> off the campaign trail in pennsylvania's eclectic commonwealth of communities,
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life still churns and politicians have me promises before. >> there's still manufacturing. it's never going to go back to the 1950's and960s, if that did, that would be the greatest miracles of my lifetime. >> shannon: reporting from pennsylvania. joining now, kathy barnette, one of the republican senate candidates. welcome to "fox news sunday." >> thank you so much for having me, shannon. >> shannon: we showed in the polling especially among those who are most interested in this race, you are surging at just the right time on a shoestring budget compared to the other two top contenders. but former president trump has weighed in on this race. he has plenty of good things to say about you but also offers this. kathy barnette will never be able to win the general election against the radical left democrats. she has many things in her past which have not been properly explained or vetted. and here's what . oz said to me about that when i asked him thursday on "special report." >> she's raised questions in her own candidacy that she's refused
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to answer. this is a candidate who lost by 20 points when she ran for cong 18 months ago. so she's not going to do well in the general election. >> shannon: i want to give you a chance to answer some of these questions. and your critics. let's start with your military record. you have now released a couple of forms related to your service. your website, your bio says you served for 10 years. critics say those forms do not prove that out. your response? >> that is not true. those forms do prove just that. i never -- i have not embellished on my record, on my time in the military. and i'm very grateful that i had the wonderful opportunity to serve our country. >> shannon: where were you an adjunct college essor? >> yes, you know, in fact, let me make this really short for you. and to your viewers. you can go to my website at barnette for senate.com, we've placed right down the front page, you'll see my family and around my family is a will and
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we place there the things you want to know about kathy barnette. i've been running this race now for about 13 months. and if you listen to the mainstream media, you would think i crawled from under a rock yesterday. i did not. we've been out here for 13 months. we started off doing about 900 miles a week. then bumped it up to 1,000. now, these last couple of months, we've been traveling over 1500 miles every single week. so i have been out here stomping the ground, getting to understand what the issues are in pennsylvania. and the media was derelict in their duty. i've been in a statistical tie for first place not just one week but four weeks. i've been out here doing the hard work. the numbers haven showing it. no one paid attention to me. they were too obsessed with the two men in this race and didn't bother to take a look at what it is we're doing. >> shannon: now you're getting that attention because you've surged at the right time. as a professor on the website
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now? >> it is. >> shannon: when did you move to pennsylvania? >> yeah, we've lived here for nine years, going into our 10th year. >> shannon: so now -- >> i've raised two of my babies here. >> shannon: it's a great state. as i told you during the commercial, i married into a pennsylvania family and it's a great place to have a family. >> i love it. i love pennsylvania. >> shannon: let me show you a post, you said some of these are taken out of context. i want to give you a chance to respond to them, then. a tweet in 2014, you said if you love freedom, must not be allowed to thrive under any condition. you've got tweets about former president obama, he's a muslim doing muslim-like things. he says he's not, he's a practicing christian. any context for those particular tweets? >> yeah, let me just say in almost all of those tweets, you know, especially when you look at the time frame we were living in at that particular time, we had the obama administration
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bringing in a lot of syrian refugees at that time. i was watching the former f.b.i. director james comey testify, i believe, in front of the senate saying we can vet until the cows come home and we won't know who these people are. and yet, obama at the time was telling the american people we're going to vet everyone and what we were watching as americans is very unnerving. and i'm sure the people will remember that. we were looking at the pulse nightclub shooting. we were watching people take vehicles, weaponize them, and run people down in the street. we were looking at the san bernadino shooti we were looking at some very unnerving things that as americans we thought would never happen here. and at that time, i was hosting a show called "truth exchange" and i will have all kind of ideas. and was leaning into helping the public begin to have those conversations. and so those are some of the best context around a lot of those tweets. the overwhelming majority of the tweets that are now being
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presented are not even full thoughts. they're not even full sentences. and yet, people take it and they begin to build on thein native around it. so i can't provide a lot of context because,in, it's almost 10 years ago. that's how far they have to go back to try to find anything on me. what i can say, although i can't provide a lot of context to that because it's a half thought and everything is not there for me to be able to speak to it. country. and i have always loved my country. and i have always been willing not to blink in the face of difficult discussions. we're facing a lot of difficult discussions. and on those 1500 miles traveling all around the commonwealth, people feel squeezed and no one is asking me about my tweets. what they're talking about are the illegal immigration, we're on track for four million unlawfully people this year alone. they're talking about inflation. i had someone call me the other day saying they're driving over
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an hour because they heard a rumor about baby formula. we have some very real issues and that is what -- that is the reason why i'm surging and doing so well is because throughout this entire time, i kept the main thing the main thing and that's pennsylvanians. >> shannon: you know if you win this primary, your democratic opponent, mr. fetterman is going to bring up these things and more. so they haven't come to light until now because you've done so well and your opponents feel you're a threat. how will you answer him because he will not, you know, pull punches on these many things. >> yeah, yeah, you know, listen, people ask me all the time, are you afraid to run against fetterman? and my response is generally at least i'm not running while black, many of your listeners will know he is -- not only accused but did hold a black man up with a shotgun, you know, so democrats have their own issues and i truly believe as we continue to move throughout this
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year, the american people specifically pennsylvanians are going to again begin to prioritize their kitchen table issues above a lot of the other noise that we're hearing right now. people are unnerved. people are just afraid. i think most people know something has gone fundamentally wrong with how our nation is being governed and while my two primary opponents were spending $60 million attacking themselves, refusing to go to the base, we had seven debates and mahmet oz and dave mccormick only showed up to two. we had a number of forums and i can only recall them showing up to two. and while they were attacking one another on television, i was out here with the people. we spent less than $2 million and they're mad. they're mad because i didn't ask for permission to be in this space. i just walked in because this is my country. and our country is in trouble. and i don't believe we have anymore room to elect warm bodies with an r next to their
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name and say hey, check. republicans win. we don't win. it's not working out for us. >> shannon: ok. and as to that incident you refer to with mr. fetterman, i confess not familiar with that allegation. i will dig into that and make sure we get information t. >> it is there. it is there. >> shannon: thank you for your time today. we'll follow the returns and we'll see what happens for you on tuesday. >> thank you so much for having me. >> shannon: up next, the biden administration tries to dodge the political fallout from rising gas prices. now a nationwide shortage of baby formula impacting parents and the political landscape. we'll bring our sunday group to discwhat's on voters' minds as they head to the ballot box. ok, let's talk about those changes to your financial plan. bill, mary? hey... it's our former broker carl. carl, say hi to nina, our schwab financial consultant. hm... i know how difficult these calls can be. not with schwab. nina made it easier to set up our financial plan. we can check in on it anytime. it changes when our goals change. planning can't be that easy. actually, it can be, carl.
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>> last year attorney general garland was quic treat the concerned parents of america terrorists.ial domestic curiously, i haven't heard any announcement about how the
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d.o.j. may handle these intimidation tactics aimed directly at federal judges. >> i know that there's an outrage right now, i guess, about protests that have been peaceful to date and we've certainly continue to encourage that outside of judges' homes. >> shannon: the debate over demonstrations at conservative supreme court justices' homes, one of the political fault lines from the leak of a draft opinion that indicates the potential overturning of roe v. wade. it is time now for our sunday group. fox news contributor charlie hurtz and former communicator and guy benson and kathryn lucey who covers the white house for "the wall street journal." welcome to all of you. what do you make of these protests? we've had a number of prominent democrats to come out to say don't do it. >> well, dick durban's comments were a little late and maybe -- actually, his were fairly forceful. but unfortunately out of the white house, they were late or actually kind of nonexistent h is reveals a terrible
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double standard. but the real problem is that it, of course, is actually illegal. you're not allowed to do this sort of thing and so where you have a lot of concern about our institutions which is a good thing to have, this sort of disregard for a real attack on an entire branch of government trying to work through a very complicated issue is not good for the country. >> shannon: we got the text of the law edited to the relevant parts. whoever with the intent to interfering withobstructing or impeding the administration of justice or with the intent of influencing any judge in the discharge of his duty, pickets or parades in or near a building or occupied or used by such judge should be fined or imprisoned for not one year or less. why is the justice department not getting involved? they get involved in a lot of things. they don't seem interested this time. >> i'm not a lawyer or prosecutor. i'm not going to pretend to know
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why or why they aren't doing ything. politically i'm against these protests outside of their homes for a number of reasons. one, i think it's wrong. number two, i think it is not going to be successful, right? 're not going to sway any justice. but number three, we spent the last couple of minutes talking about the protests outside of justices' homes instead of talking about the content. instead of talking about the real threat to roe v. wade. and as a supporter of having access to abortion of roe v. wade, i'd much rather be having this conversation than where we are protesting. >> shannon: senate democrats tried to pass something that they kept calling it the codification of roe v. wade. many thinkwas beyond that. they have a piece saying the proposed law was much more extreme that. abortion on demand for any reason at any point up until birth. for the first time in our nation's history, schumer's law would have done away with religious liberty protections
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for medical providers who object to performing abortions on religious or conscience grounds. it would have also allowed for sex selectivabortions. so even pro choice republicans and they were joined by joe manchin said they cannot go that far. >> right. i think that the senate bill was actually appalling. it goes far beyond anything that really approaches just codifying roe. a few senators were asked questions about that on the democratic side and the one from hawaii said that's not get bogged down in the details. the details matter quite a lot and they were disgusting similar to the bill signed into law by governor polis your guest earlier in the program. he was sort of dancing around your question. >> shannon: what the answer is. >> the answer is yes unfortunately. he didn't really want to spell that out. he did say that this issue abortion, should come down to the hearts and minds of women. not the laws of men. well, he's a male governor who signed a bill into law that, according to a new u-gov poll flies in the face of 65% of what
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american women believe on this question. so i think that you saw, in these two governors on the program today, very different approaches that represent in each case a pretty small segment of the american electorate and sort of public opinion whereas many other people, there's a messy middere on a lot of these issues, that doesn't really seem to be getting a lot of attention from some of the loudest voices. >> shannon: how does the white house assess this? the president is upside down on about every issue we poll on. the democrats need something to rally around more the midterms do they think this is it? >> they think this is a galvanizing issue and affects women voters, some of the key groups that they think is important in the fall. suburban women. they are hoping this will help bring people out and get people energized in an election that is looking very, very challenging for democrats. the president's numbers are really low.
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people are frustrated by inflation and frustrated now about the shortages of baby formula, for example chshgs is a real issue for parents. the question is how much this does, you know, what i've heard from a lot of analysts and from pollsters is that democrats still need an economic message. they need an economic message. they need to be able to talk to people on inflation but people think this could help on the margins. >> shannon: well, to the economy, 7 in 10 americans told pew research in a poll released this week, inflation is a very big problem for the country to as we talked about it, the president is upside down. democrats are upside down on these things and people vote with their wallets. do you think it's salvageable by the midterms, this issue on the economy? >> this is actually a fairly messy election season, i think, and there's so many unknowns that are still coming in, right? how does roe v. wade play into this? how does any number of issues play into this? how does yesterday's tragic shooting in buffalo and the issues that come from that
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change sort of our collective thinking? having said all that, yeah, inflation is a big problem. it is going to be the number one issue. and that's why you see the president out there over the past week being much more assertive and aggressive in talking about the issue and trying to number one say here's what democrats and my administration are trying to do. and number two, increasingly republicans.ntrast with increasingly drawing a contrast with how senator rick scott's tax plan will negatively impact people. >> shannon: even though no one in the republicans have embraced it but him. >> but you're seeing them try to draw a contrast between the two sides. and look, they're even beginning to see how they can try to connect the economic argument to issues like roe v. wade. you brought up some great statistics in your interview with the governor of oklahoma a little while ago. he seemed to be caught
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flatfooted by some of those. economic impact of some issues. so i think you're going to see democrats lean into it a lot but they're facing some serious >> also, i think one of the challenges for the white house, right, is they're trying to create a choice for voters. say look, it's us vs. the republicans. here's what republicans would do. republicans will raise taxes. but it's typically very, very hard to shift a midterm election from what is a referendum on the party. >> especially when we've got this issue of moms who can't find form larks charles. >> right. also, with inflation in particular, you know, the white house also denied that was a problem for a very long time and tried to -- try to pretend it away. and the fact that they are grasping at something like roe v. wade, i think, also underscores just how desperate they are for an issue, as you point out, galvanizes things. go back to something that mo said is very interesting talking about how you would rather be talking t roe v. wade. wellm on the opposite side
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of this issue. i would rather be talking about the issue as well. and that's really what the beauty of -- if this does, in fact, get overturned, it puts so that people's elected at -- legislatures can have these arguments and sort out these differences and arrive at things -- arrive at decisions at laws that make sense to people. >> shannon: final word to you. >> i would say the president gave a speech last week. a lot of blame for inflation. not a lot of proactive plans. but he did say his policies are helping, not hurting. that was his assertion. polls show the american people do nelieve that. >> shannon: that's not their perception of it anyway. ok, panel, thank you very much. we will see you next sunday. up next, a final word on the week ahead.
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