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this program was made possible by the corporation for public broadcasting and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. >> welcome to the newshour. the key witness in the manhattan criminal trial against former president trump michael cohen continued his testimony today. further detailing the alleged scheme to hide the payment made to adult film actress stormy daniels to protect candidate trump in 2016. during cross-examination, trump's legal team painted cohen as a man motivated by greed determined to convict trump no matter what. william brangham was in court

and joins us from downtown manhattan. mr. cohen is arguably the most critical witness for the prosecution. his second day on the stand. what did he ask in his testimony? >> as you mentioned, he continued his testimony central to the charges, which is trump and others comped up this scheme to falsify business records to hide the fact they had paid stormy daniels to stay quiet during the campaign. and cohen repeatedly said he made those payments specifically to help donald trump's campaign and that donald trump has urged him to do so. he reiterated some of the details of that. he was shown invoices he sent to the trump organization asking to be paid for what he called a legal retainer and said these were for legal services, which he acknowledged he never

provided any legal services during this period of time. he was shown each of those invoices at each of the checks by prosecutor susan hoffinger. many of them signed by donald trump himself. each of the check stubs said that this was for a legal retainer. this is the central allegation here, that these payments were not from legal work, and all of these records were knowingly falsified to hide the whole stormy daniels scheme. >> what about mr. trump's role in all of this, given he was being charged? what did michael cohen have to say? >> this is a central point to this. there was not that much new today on that front. cohen reiterated trump knew of and approved the broad outlines of this repayment to the scheme, and trump felt stormy daniels story getting out during the campaign would be devastating to

him, and that he deputized michael cohen to deal with that. but there was no direct testimony today that directly linked trump to the exact detail of those financial payments. prosecutors will likely argue as the head of the trump organization, it is likely trump looked at every single bit of business, every dollar that went out of his company. we have not heard directly donald trump knew of the granular details of these allegedly falsified business records. >> this was middle -- mr. trump legal team, their chance to cross-examine michael cohen. how did they go about that. >> trump's lawyer from the very minute tried to portray michael cohen as the profanity spinning insult machine. a man with this deep-seated

hatred of the former president, and now that michael cohen is a disbarred lawyer, is trying to support himself by capitalizing on that hatred by selling podcasts, subscriptions to tiktok, selling books, talking about his time with trump. michael cohen admitted he made $4 million off of his first book, about a lot of his time with trump the defense team tried to say this was a man who adored donald trump and listened to a lot of testimony about how he used to love him, doing everything he good to be complement to buy trump and be credited by trump read now that he feels jilted and frustrated, and he's doing anything he can. and in public many times, understand he desperately wants to do. in the defenses,

cross-examination, they did not touch on any of the central allegations. we expect that will happen on thursday. >> both inside and outside, mr. trump had very high profile supporters. including the republican speaker of the house mike johnson trade you see another number of republicans who showed up to support him. what can you tell us about why they were there. >> there was a continuing parade yesterday and today of high-profile republicans coming to support donald trump to condemn the trial happening behind me. we saw a couple of senators who were here supporting trump. we saw vivek ramaswamy, the north dakota governor doug burgum, all three of those gentlemen -- i don't know if they coordinated this or not, but wearing the signature trump uniform of our redshirt and red

tie. seeing the speaker of the house, the man who was third in line by succession coming to manhattan to stand outside the courthouse a few feet from where i'm at right now to condemn the trial and to denigrate the witnesses in this, just incredibly striking moment. >> he's soon to be officially the nominee of one of the major parties in our country running for president. they have him tied up in the ridiculous prosecution that is not about justice, it is all about politics. >> having the speaker here supporting donald trump is again one more piece of evidence that the republican party of today is 100% donald trump's party. a very striking show support for the former president. >> remarkable scenes inside and outside the courtroom. william brangham reporting from new york with us.

thank you. >> in the days other headlines, at least eight people were killed and dozens injured in a bus crash in central florida. 53 farmworkers were aboard headed to work when their bus collided with a truck, swerved off the road, and landed on its side. a florida highway patrol said it can takes months -- take months for what caused the accident. >> at this point, we are conduct a massive traffic homicide investigation. we have a full team and then some on the scene. this will be a very long and lengthy thorough investigation. we do not get in a hurry to conclude what happened until we get all the facts. >> the driver of the other vehicle involved was also

hospitalized with serious injuries. at least three people have been killed in severe storms across a number of southern states. in louisiana, tornadoes toppled powerlines on monday night and flipped cars upside down. the region had already suffered weather-related damage this spring in one of the most active periods for tornadoes on record. the secretary of state is in ukraine to show support for the country's war against russia. he's the first u.s. official to visit since congress passed the $61 billion aid package last month. he met with ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy today. he promised american arms will help beat back russian advances. >> the assistance is now on the way. some has already arrived. more will be arriving. that will make a real difference against the ongoing russian aggression on the battlefield. we are determined with many other departments for ukraine to make sure you succeed on the battlefield.

>> meanwhile, the french president announced he will send a new military aid package to ukraine in the coming weeks. russia struck the center of ukraine's second -- second largest city, part of an increase of attacks. authorities say 17 people were injured when a high-rise residential building was hit. a fire broke out at the scene of another strike. police carried out more evacuations of the region and say more than 7500 people have fled so far. a manhunt underway in northwestern france after a brazen ambush of a prison convoy that killed two guards and injured three others. a drug dealer known as the fly was being transported to jail when his van came under attack, as seen in this footage. he escaped and the assailants are at large. hundreds of police officers are investigating the scene. france's prime minister vowed to bring justice.

>> everything will be done to find the perpetrators of this despicable crime. we will spare no effort, no means. we will track them down, we will find them, and they will pay. >> the escaped prisoner was recently convicted of burglary and is under investigation for a kidnapping and homicide case. in the middle east, the united splaced in recent days aseena israel escalates attacks on both ends of the gaza strip. most people are fleeing rafa in the south, where israel is targeting the last hamas stronghold. 100,000 people were also ordered to leave the north. in the meantime, the white house has condemned the burning of an aide convoy bound for gaza by israeli settlers. no food has made it through southern gaza's two main border crossings in the past week. harvard university reached an agreement with student protesters today to end the pro-palestinian encampment in the schools harvard yard.

as part of the deal, university officials agree to address calls for divestment and will begin the process of reinstating suspended students. the latest reading on u.s. wholesale prices shows inflation remains stubbornly high. the labor department said his producer price index rose half a percent from march to april. that is more than expected. compared to last april, prices were up 2.2%. the biggest increase in a year. it tracks increases and are a good barometer of where inflation is heading. and on wall street, worries over the wholesale data were offset by comments from jerome powell. the dow jones industrial average gained 126 points to close at 29,558. the nasdaq rose nearly 123 points to close at a record high. the s&p 500 tapped on 25 points.

a literary passing of note. the canadian literary giant and nobel laureate with a master of the short story and one of the most esteemed writers of her time. her best known fiction included the bigger made. in a statement, or canadian publisher said "alice munro is a national treasure "her work leaves an indelible mark on her literary landscape she had been in poor health for years and often spoke of retirement, including in this clip from 2006. >> the thing about stopping writing. i say it with perfect honesty, i believe in it. i believe there is such a thing as a normal life. and that i'm going to find it somey. >> fortunately for us, she kept writing. her last work, a collection called dear life, came out in 2012. alice munro was 92 years old. still to come on the newshour. the biden administration seeks

to change protections for migrant children in government custody. the editors from two digital only community new sites talk about winning the pulitzer prize. when they look at the feud between kendrick lamar and drake. >> president biden announced a series of major tariffs on chinese imports. the world's two largest economic superpowers are colliding over the future of electric vehicles and other industrial sectors. it comes about six month before the election as president biden and former president trump are battling to sell voters on their visions for the economy, manufacturing, and jobs. lisa desjardins begins our coverage. >> after reviewing former

president trump's tariffs on chinese imports, president biden is adding to them. >> i want to fair competition with china, not conflict. we are in a stronger position to win the economic competition against china than anyone else because we are investing in america again. >> he's targeting chinese manufacturing, especially green tech, hitting roughly $18 billion worth of goods annually. including a more than 100% tariff on chinese electric vehicles, tripling the current amount. tariffs will go up for solar cells to 50%. lithium-ion batteries, when he 5%. and chinese steel and aluminum products, 25%. chinese authorities immediately called the u.s. hypocritical. >> the united states is trampling on the principles of market economy and international trade rules. it is a blatant act of bullying and hegemony. >> but biden is arguing china is

far worse, a global trade manipulator. >> we will not let china flood our market. >> biden means the electric vehicle industry. china is overwhelming some world markets come a selling electric vehicles with a sicker price as low as $11,000. the chinese state is making up the difference, artificially slicing prices. europeans charge it may be illegal. in 2020, biden once said he would and previous chinese tariffs, but is expanding them while battling a political opponent who is aggressive on tariffs. trump spoke in new york today. his speeches have long focused on chinese manufacturing as a threat. both campaigns want to win in critical rust belt states. trump wants much wider tariffs and tries to downplay biden's plan. >> as he's putting a 100% tariff

on all chinese electric vehicles. should have done this for years ago. but biden is not going to put this on their gasoline powered car or any other products. you have to go on other cars also. >> while se might win from tariffs, others are shuttering. the u.s. china business council said trump's tariffs and biden's new ones make it harder for american companies to compete in the u.s. and abroad, cost american jobs, and increase prices. a heated u.s. political fight is woven into an escalating global trade war. for the pbs newshour, lisa desjardins. >> for a closer look into the administration's thinking behind the new import taxes, we are joined by the treasury secretary, janet yellen. welcome back to the newshour. >> thank you so much. >> as you have seen, there have been experts, groups, the national retail federation among them who have expressed concerns it would be the u.s. consumers

who eventually end up paying for these tariffs. rising prices are the biggest concern right now. i ask to speak directly to them. will american consumers bear the cost of these tariffs? >> i don't believe american consumers will see any meaningful increase in the prices that they face. president biden announced tariffs on roughly $18 billion of imports from china. they are very carefully targeted at sectors that we are supporting through legislation president biden passed with congress. the clean energy sector, semiconductors, sectors where we consider it critical to create good jobs. we are seeing massive investment in manufacturing in these areas.

we think it is very important to protect our workers and our firms in these strategic sectors for the kind of dumping that results when china develops massive overcapacity in these areas. and we are not alone. japan, europe, mexico, india, brazil, south africa, other countries are all concerned. these are areas where the investments we are making will ultimately result in lower prices. >> i hear you saying they could end in lower prices. but you mentioned consumers may not see any meaningful price increase. should people embrace for some price increase? >> i don't think anything will occur here that will be noticeable to the typical american family. mainly these tariff increases

serve to protect firms and workers that are being supported by the incentives, the tax incentives, and other incentives in the semiconductor and chips act and inflation reduction act. these are sectors where american firms are gearing up production, are very able to compete, but face an unlevel playing field. >> your view on this has evolved. it was july 2021 where you are asked about the trump era tariffs on china and said they are taxes on consumers. in some cases it seems to me what we did hurt american consumers. what changed between then and now? >> what we are talking about here are a targeted group of strategic sectors where we have developed a real overdependence on china. we have vulnerabilities in our

supply chains, we have made it a national priority to diversify our supply chains so we don't experience the same kinds of shortages that we did during the pandemic. and these are sectors that are core in the modern economy. >> this does represent an escalation in what has been tit-for-tat with china. we got a statement from the chinese embassy that said they are false narratives of overcapacity. made to hinder china's high-quality development and scapegoat for their own -- the u.s.' own problems. are you worried about u.s. retaliation? >> i hope that the chinese react in a rational way to what is a very targeted set of actions.

we have deep trade and investment relationship with china. we think most of it is beneficial both to america and to china. and most of it is unproblematic and uncontroversial. at this point, china's capacity to produce solar panels is twice global demand for these panels. and what that means is prices will drop to levels that make american firms uncompetitive. i've made our concerns in this area very clear. i have been very straightforward and public about it. so it should not be a surprise. and china itself is mentioned it is concerned about overcapacity. >> doesn't this in many ways run across current to larger goals of addressing climate change?

take chinese electric vehicles for example. they are cheaper, but if more people end up buying them, does it go along long way towards addressing climate change? >> we are doing a great deal to support the electric vehicle industry in the united states and to encourage adoption by consumers of evs that includes building a network of charging stations all across the country, something that is taking place right now because of the bipartisan infrastructure law. and consumers are eligible up to $7,500 subsidies to buy electric vehicles. we know that over time as our firms develop experience in producing these, and we have battery factories -- we have a

new battery built that has really developed throughout the midwest, that the prices of these vehicles will come down over time. the programs we are following are the best of both worlds there. addressing emissions in a forceful way and also creating good jobs for americans who need them. >> that is the u.s. treasury secretary, janet yellen, joining us. good to speak with you. >> thank you. >> today, the parliament and the country of georgia passed a contentious new bill that requires aid and civil society groups and media that receive foreign funding to register as "organizations serving the interests of a foreign power." georgia is a country of 3.6 million people between russia

and turkey on the black sea. riddick stubbed the bill the russia law and said it could increase russian influence and block george's integration into the west. here is nick schifrin with more. >> they filled the streets of the capital i the tens of thousands. mostly young georgians who hope the west is their future and their shield against authorities pushing the new law and pushing back on demonstrators dreams. police have kicked, beaten, surrendered, and arrested dozens of testers, including two americans. these are the largest protests in georgia since independence nearly 35 years ago. >> the consequence of base law will be very practical for the civil society of georgia for the opposition of georgia -- >> a georgian parliamentarian and member of the opposition united national movement. when she protested, she ended up

in the back of a nebulous beaten by police. >> i was injured when i tried to help. i was hospitalized. we were very angry. and i don't care. i'm angry. >> the ruling georgian green party has pushed through the law that designates organizations with more than 20% foreign financing as foreign influence agents. the party chairman, former prime minister argues the bill increases transparency and fights foreign meddling. >> the financing of ngo's which portrays itself as assistance is in reality strengthening intelligence agencies and helping bring them to power. this money has nothing to do with assistance. their only aim is the loss of georgian sovereignty. >> but critics call it a trojan horse. that echoes russia's 2012 foreign agent law, which the kremlin used to crackdown on criticism and detain american

journalist, despite initially claiming it was designed to tackle foreign meddling. today in george's parliament, they tussled before the final vote. -- tried to keep the peace, even if she says the bill wages war on georgia's civil society. >> if you compare the russian law, you can see that they are very similar. and it gives possibility for the government to ngo's, if you decided to arrest the civil activities. we have already seen consequences were we have it by the special process of -- >> more than 20 years ago, georgia was the first ex soviet republic to launch a pro-democracy revolution. in 2008, russian troops invaded and occupied 20% of georgia ever

since. georgia dream won elections in 2012 financed by billions which were made in post-soviet russia. >> now more than ever, there is so much at stake. >> -- is an analyst for eurasia group. she said georgian dreams motivation to stay in power passed upcoming elections has led it to align with moscow. >> the timing of the rollout by the georgia dream in many ways influenced and inspired, if not directly asked by the kremlin. we are seeing now a lot of signposts that show a lot of the georgian dreams objectives and goals coincide with the broader goals and objectives of russia. >> and those goals could threaten georgia's desires to join the european union and the eu's willingness to continue negotiations. it could also lead to u.s. sanctions and the end of u.s.-military and economic aid.

the assistant secretary for europe and asia joined today. >> if the law goes forward out of conformity with the norms and there is undermining of democracy here, and there is violence against peaceful protesters, then we will see restrictions coming from the united states. those tend to be financial or travel restrictions on the individuals responsible for those actions and their families. >> do you want the united states to do more? >> the united states i think must choose sanctions against the family members, the georgia dream leaders, against the members of the parliament from the georgian green who voted for this russian law and against the special forces leaders who --

when young people on the streets. >> people will prolong their protests to today, banging on the barricades of the institution meant to protect them, fearing their future and the country's relationship with the west is under threat. for the pbs newshour, nick schifrin. >> the biden is asking a federal judge to partially terminate a decades-old agreement that said standards of care for unaccompanied migrant children held in u.s. custody. white house correspondent laura brown lopez joins us to explain what this means. if the biden administration's request is granted by the court, what does that mean? >> it would essentially end one part of the decades-old florida

settlement agreement. and the florida settlement agreement was first established in 1997. the part they are looking to terminate applies to the health and human services department. the health and human services department is responsible for carrying these unaccompanied migrant children shortly after their arrival. they oversee the facilities where they are housed across the southern border. the agreement mandated standards of care. we are talking about basic safety for these migrant children, adequate food, drinking water, temperature control, sanitary living conditions, and if a judge agrees with the justice department, this part of the decades-old settlement agreement would be terminated. >> why is the administration doing this now? >> hhs finals a new regulation that strengthens protections across the board for the unaccompanied migrant children. they say goes beyond the 1997 flurries agreement.

in its court filing, the justice department argues the florida settlement was meant to be temporary and that hhs' regulation is expensive and responsive and that these new care standards they are mandating under the regulation will provide needed protections to unaccompanied children for years to come. i spoke to a senior hhs official who said they are following the timeline laid out by the original court agreement which essentially stipulated once a regulation is finalized by the government that lays out standards of care for migrants, 45 days after that, they should seek to terminate that court agreement. >> the independent floor as are opposing the move to end that agreement, why? >> floors counsel, lawyers that represent these unaccompanied children held in u.s. custody, say there is a big gap between

what is covered under the floor is agreement and this new hhs regulation. the floors counsel lawyers say essentially that their oversight power that they've had under the court agreement, the ability to inspect facilities under hhs jurisdiction all across the southern border is going to be taken away if the court agreement is terminated. i spoke to an attorney with the national center of youth law who shared what she has seen when she's inspected these facilities. >> you had thousands of children in cots in a giant space. in some places, without the ability to go outdoors, with no education, with no structured activities, with no access to mental health care, and nobody apart from us able to speak to them. >> she stressed only independent attorneys are able to have access to speak to these children to alert the government to potential violations.

and if they need to go to court, they can take action to enforce standards of care. now the senior hhs official i spoke with pushed back, saying the new regulation sets up an public advocate of sorts that will be independent of hhs office that oversees these facilities, and that independent public advocate office will receive complaints, investigate, and address concerns. but the full capabilities of the office are not known yet. it will not be known for some days until regulation is fully in effect in july. >> when it comes to who could be impacted, who are we talking about? >> recent years, roughly 120,000 unaccompanied migrant children have arrived at the southern border per year. at any given moment, there are about 7000 to 10,000

unaccompanied migrant children in these facilities hhs overseas. many of them are quickly released to family or sponsors living in the u.s. but there are also some detained for quite a long me in these facilities. that is why the floors counsel lawyers said oversight is key. they feel it is necessary to be able to get into those facilities to speak to these unaccompanied migrants to see what they're experiencing and to potentially force government action. >> laura perrone lopez, thank you for your reporting. ♪ the pulitzer prize is one of journalism's most prissy just awards. this year's winners include some familiar names, like the new york times, associated press, and washington post. it was also a big year for some

small newsrooms. including some new digital outlets with a handful of reporters covering stories in their local communities. stephanie sy has our look. >> across the country, fewer americans have access to high-quality local news coverage . last year, an average of two to have local papers closed up shop each week. today, more than half of u.s. counties have either no local news source or only one remaining outlet. the new digital only enterprises are increasingly filling the gap. for more, we are joined by editors from two of this year's pulitzer winning community newsrooms. can dr. is ceo and founder of lookout santa cruz in california, which went further breaking news coverage of devastating floods. and andrew phan, executive director of the invisible institute in chicago, which took him two pulitzers for race and gentlemen. and congratulations on the

prestigious award. both of your newsrooms are small , digital only outlets. you reached out to a handful of employees. lookout santa cruz, less than five years old. what did it take and what does the recognition mean to you and your colleagues? >> it means the world to us. we are almost three and a half years old at this point. we were ready to cover these storms, but did not expect the january 2020 3, 9 atmospheric storms rolling through santa cruz. it was horrendous. roads closed and everything. communications out. we found being digital was a real benefit to us and to the reader. so we could connect and use the internet, text messaging, and every means that we could to

reach those leaders. it really has cemented our relationship around local news with these readers for an outlet as new as ours. >> what about the reaction in your newsroom? winning two pulitzers, one was for a podcast looking at a hate crime occurring in the 1990's. the other for how systemic racism affects missing black women and girls. what was the reaction when you found out about this? >> are newsroom was in pandemonium for a good couple of hours. there are only 12 of us. just about a dozen staffers. it was really an incredible moment. having teams recognized at the same time, none of us saw that coming. we all crammed into our one-room office and we were over the moon. >> i want to go back to your coverage of those horrible floods in santa cruz last year. waiting for breaking news coverage, you said you only had some 10 employees.

how did you manage to cover a catastrophic weather event with such a small staff? what was your strategy going in, or was it fly by the seat of your pants? >> 10 in the newsroom, 15 overall. people on the community and business side pitched in. they were using instagram, text message. we deployed ourselves throughout the county. we have mountains, coasts, flooding, the levees in the agricultural area. we deployed people to all those areas and stayed in touch and got the news out as quickly as possible. and it is a skilled staff. while it is small, we have about 150 years of experience among us and half of the people have really good experience in santa cruz county. >> very different type of reporting. but also very skilled staff. i understand the series of reports you did on missing black women and girls started with a data scientist you have on staff

a group on the south side of chicago. tell me how that led to this coverage. >> absolutely. that is our director of data. she has been at the institute since 2016. part of what makes our newsroom different as we are not all journalists. we have people who are data scientists who community engagement experts, civil-rights lawyers. in the case of her investigation, another chicago-based nonprofit, the focus emerged out of our interest of looking at data, understanding with every complaint filed in chicago, we get tens of thousands of these complaints. what trina and others on the team understood was underneath every one of those complaints was not just a digital story of someone's bad attraction with the police department. >> how do you see yourselves in the local landscape? are you filling a void or catering to a completely different niche? >> for us, the commonality as we

are news organizations, but the engagement with the populace. i know we have talked about that, that is a hugely important part to us, this story and everything we do. for us, we are a replacement for a daily newspaper. reader revenue and membership and in advertising. but we are delivering the news digitally. the same bedrock local news people depended on print for, but the print had disappeared. >> how do you see your role in the local news landscape? especially because you have a tighter focus on criminal justice. >> i strongly agree with what he said, through both of our organizations is intense on building relations you can trust over time. that is a huge part of our investigative reporting, even though it looks different. the other thing i would say is almost all of our investigations are done with collaborators.

even though we are bringing a particular focus in the criminal justice system, we love to work with local news outlets, daily newspapers, outlets covering the communities on the regular. we think we are well alongside them. >> does the fact with of you got pulitzers give you optimism you are seeing a resurgence in local news? award-winning work. >> it is happening, it just needs to be covered more. people need to realize we need to move on from criticism the hedge funds and brought up newspapers to competing with them and putting them out of business. >> i think one thing we are seeing in chicago is you can have the entire ecosystem of new or nonprofit digital outlets alongside each other. we work alongside the community of peers and we are excited to be part of the movement. >> andrew with the invisible institute in chicago and ken

with lookout santa cruz. thank you both and congratulations. >> thans. -- thanks. ♪ >> they are two of the biggest names in hip-hop. kendrick lamar and drake. they have been locked in a rap battle that has captured global attention and is having a big impact on the music industry. that is the focus tonight for our alts and culture series, canvas. kendrick lamar is a rapper from compton who gained notoriety in 2012 with his album good kid mad city. he has since won 17 grammies and a pulitzer prize for his music. and drake who was born in canada has commercially dominated the u.s. rap market for more than a decade. with their t number one albums in five grammies. the ones collaborators turned

enemies have fired each other through their lyrics in multiple new songs. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> their feud has touched on weighty themes. from racial identity to the authenticity as artists to the treatment of women and minors, with serious allegations about underaged relationships and domestic abuse. and fans have been fascinated by the rap battle. both artists made the billboard top 10 this week with kendrick lamar's "not like us" debuting at number one. for a closer look at the feud and the implications, i'm joined by sidney madden, who covers

music for npr. it is good to see you, if you can bring us up to speed. what is behind this beef? how did we get here. >> this beef between kendrick and drake has been simmering for over a decade. these are two people considered at the top of their game in hip-hop, considered to be on the mount rushmore of hip hop's current rap acts. even though they both came up around the same time in 2011 and 2012, hip-hop fans have noticed they have not really worked together for that long a time. and even though they are considered to be part of the big three, which is drake, j. cole, anna kendrick, kendrick brought the over boiling beef to an overflow where he said in march it is not big three, it is just big me. that said everything into motion for the two rappers exchanging diss tracks. over 40 minutes of music in

total. >> we heard a few lines from those tracks of what we could play. there is a lot we could not play. what they have to say to each other, that very personal, very intense, very troubling in some cases. there was an opinion piece in the guardian where a writer said "in the course of the nasty back-and-forth, they have made women, women who are possibly survivors of sexual abuse, harassment, or domestic violence, the collateral damage of their violent mudslinging." what is that about and why did it go there? >> absolutely. this beef has been unprecedented in so many ways. two artists at the top of their game. they also employed social media and technology in new ways. drake used ai generated lyrics to prod and goad kendrick into engaging with him. he also used livestream is to premier tracks. it created a very participatory

feedback loop on social media. even with those changes in the format and the rollout, some things never paint. and the hardest hits they take at each other are the most misogynistic ones. in his songs, drake is accusing kendrick of abusing his longtime fiance. on the other hand, kendrick is accusing drake of long-term grooming of underage girls and keeping people in his company and his camp who have been accused and found guilty of assault of young women. so this mudslinging is really so much more for bruising up their egos and not relieve the accountability of any potential harm they are doing to women in their lives. >> people have been flocking to it, following everything anew track that comes out. why do you think it has captured people the way it has?

>> i think even -- i think it has really enamored a lot of people. even though you are not a diehard hip-hop fan, even if you are not a fan of either one of these artists, you have to admit the speed and velocity, the rigor that they are going at each other, is truly something amazing. it is something that does not happen often in the hip hop re not now. you can think of it as similar to two political foes who have been throwing slights at each other on the campaign trail for a long time. let's say years, and they are finally getting to a podium and going face-to-face. or teams at the top of their game finally facing off for the super bowl. and a long-awaited battle that is no holds barred. >> knowing what you know about reagan kendrick, would you say this whole thing is on brand for both of them? is it the kind of thing you expected to see from them? how does this and?

>> i think in terms of being on brand, they are people who want to be considered the best. it is about peacock in, but also about bloodsport, claiming the number one spot. so everyone wants to be the best. and for a long time, kendrick and drake have puffed up their chest in their own perspective ways to say i'm the best. but this is the first time they are going head to head. something so long, simmering, animosity that has been building up. the spectacle that came from it is very on brand. the long-term legacy is one that is going to question the validity of each one of these rappers and who wins, who didn't. and their fan bases will have a lot to debate about for a very long time. >> that is sidney madden who covers music for npr. good to talk to you. >> thank you.

>> professor mary c murphy is a social psychologist whose new book cultures of growth explores what specific trades can make individuals and teams successful. tonight, murphy shares her brief but spectacular take on how to create cultures of growth. >> cultures of genius are really problematic. if you google the word genius, you will see a lot of einstein, you might see thomas edison or steve jobs. you might even see elon musk. you don't see women, you don't see people of color, lgbtq people, people with disabilities. so what we see over and over is these cultures of genius really focus on who fits that narrow mold. and it has consequences. i grew up in san antonio, texas

as part of a bicultural, hispanic working-class family. >> i think that in american culture, we like to think independent agent. and how much in the environment tell us are we valued, are we respected? do we have what it takes or don't we? we all have the power to create these environments around us. and we have to do that. as a researcher, i focus on how our environments and the cues within them shape our motivation and our engagement. and i figure out how we can re-create these environments. the fixed mindset holds talent and ability and intelligence are relatively fixed traits. you either have them or you don't. you are a creative person or you are not. and the growth mindset is often seen as the opposite. it holds we have universal potential. the book i wrote is called cultures of growth.

the work we have been doing has really shown us that mindset is not just a quality of our minds. it is really a future of groups, teams, schools, and companies. and when we can build these inclusive cultures of growth, we will create environments where everyone thrives. how i know i'm in a strong culture of growth is i see people collaborating. and they are excited when and novel innovative ideas come from anywhere. sometimes all it takes is for other people to see who we really are and what we are capable of read my name is mary murphy. this is my brief but spectacular take on how we create cultures of growth. >> and you can watch more brief but spectacular videos online at pbs.org/newshour/brief. join us again tomorrow night for judy woodruff's report from arizona on how diversity in the latino community can help moderate our divided moment.

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