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this program was made possible but the corporation for public broadcasting and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. geoff: welcome to the newshour. today for the first time president biden publicly threatened to condition support for israel. the president said his future policy was dependent on whether israel took multiple steps to ease the civilian suffering from gaza and also reiterated his call for an immediate cease-fire. nick shiffrin is following all

of this. presidential february to calls with foreign leaders aren't always that illuminate nateing but we learned a lot today. tell the us what you've learned. >> white house reader and u.s. officials say the president was very direct with the prime minister and the president said that following that killing of the world central aid worker. the three cars they were traveling in were aid, biden said that one, they had to better protect aid workers, civilians and stop the suff suffering. president biden said that u.s. aid will be determined by our assessment on israel's meet action on these three steps. president biden hasn't made those made public until now and

he said if he had to draw a red line, that would be a full-scale military operation into gaza. and a few moments after the call with netanyahu. secretary of state antoni blinken who was on that call listening was even more blunt. >> if we don't see the changes that we need to see there will be changes in our own policy. >> blinken also said that israel's priority should be hamas or even protecting israel territory but instead their priority in gaza is this -- >> right now there is no higher priority in gaza than protecting civilians, surging military assistance and the security of

those who provide it. >> israel hasn't responded to those statements yet but argued it's a fault of u.n. capacity in terms of distribution of aid inside of gaza and it called the killing of those aid workers inadvertent, the product of a misidentification and it's calling for what president biden is calling for, an independent open investigation >> and the president also call forward cease-fire. that demand is noteworthy. >> it is because up until now the president has said there should be a cease-fire as part of a hostage deal. there is a hostage deal on the table. 35 to 40 hostages would be released from hamas in exchange for a six-week cease-fire but hamas has insisted that part of that deal must be to allow owl of those gassens in rafa to

return north into northern gaza. israel has resisted that hamas demand. in israel there are also hostages but also hamas militants and israel said it would be difficult. but a u.s. official told netanyahu, get the hostage deal done, no more posturing, event if that allows gassen civilians to move north from rafah. another sticking point, the exact number of palestinian detainees who would be released from israeli detention in exchange to those 35 to 40 hostages. how far israel is willing to go on that compromise and how far or whether even hamas is willing to make a compromise remains to be seen. geoff: nick, thanks, as always.

>> thank you. ♪ geoff: in the day's other homicide, israel's military suspended leave for all combat units -- in case iran retaliates for an air strike in damascus that killed two iranian generals. prime minister netanyahu defended the strike and warned that israel won't hesitate to do it again. >> for years, iran has been working against us directly and through its proxies, and therefore israel is working against iran and its proxies. we will act upon the simple principle that whoever hurts or us plans to, we will hurt them. geoff: and in iran, state media report suspected sunni muslim militants attacked iranian security forces, leaving 27 dead.

it happened in a province in southeastern iran. officials said the militants struck in kabahar and rask, trying to seize revolutionary guard headquarters. russian drone attacks on ukraine's second-largest city claimed the lives of at least four people overnight, including three rescue workers. police video showed one of the explosions as drones hit two apartment buildings and a power plant in kharkiv. firefighters worked in the pre-dawn dark to extinguish the flames. ukraine says the russians are deliberately firing drones in pairs -- the first to cause damage and the second to target emergency crews. in taiwan, the death toll rose to 10 after wednesday's powerful earthquake, and rescuers spent another long day searching for the missing and stranded. search teams found one body on a hiking trail in a national park. some 50 others had been cut off on a highway in that park. david chen was one of them and was reunited with his family today. >> i am lucky to survive this disaster. we were terrified,

especially when the earthquake first happened, we thought it was all over. ask that place was prone to rock falls. geoff: nearly 1100 people were injured in the earthquake, and about 700 people were still stranded today ched. here in this country, a federal judge in florida refused to dismiss the classified documents case against former president trump. he had argued the material was personal -- so he could legally keep it. and a georgia judge rejected mr. trump's bid to dismiss an election interference case -- on first amendment grounds. the judge ruled that: even core political speech is not impenetrable from prosecution if allegedly used to further criminal activity. a federal court ruling in california means thousands of migrant children have to be moved out of open-air borde camps and into safer indoor facilities and soon. the ruling came late wednesday and puts new pressure on "customs and border protection". the agency says it has greatly increased capacity at processing centers in san diego -- but can't keep up with demand. president biden moved today to

beef up job protections fo federal workers in case former president trump wins in november. it's a response to a trump promise to radically reshape the federal workforce. the new regulations bar career civil servants from being reclassified as political appointees, which will make the harder to fire. and on wall street, stocks sank after a top federal reserve official voiced new concern about persistent inflation. the dow jones industrial average lost 530 points to close below 38,597. the nasdaq fell 228 points. the s&p 500 drooped 64. and still to come on the newshour -- what you need to know about the uptick in cases of bird flu in farm animals and the risk to humans in the u.s. a look at how the biden and trump campaigns are raising and ending their advertising dollars. a new documentary captures the story of a journalist's gender transition while embedded with the taliban

>> this is the pbs newshour from weta studios in washington and in the west from the walter cronkite school of yourism at arizona state unfortunate. geoff: the challenge presented by china is one of the main focuses of the biden white house and soon the president will meet with the leader of one of america's strongest alleys -- japan, in a bid to deepen the military partnership in east asia. in a moment, i'll speak with japan's prime minister fumio kishida. but first, a look at the stakes of the coming summit. next week president biden will host japanese prime minister kishida in washington on wednesday followed by a summit among the two nations in the philippines. it's all part of japan's shift over the last decade. slowly abandoning its post world war ii inward approach of

pacifism to deal with the rising power nearby, china. live fire military exercises off the coast of taiwan, sailing its ships dangerously close to others in the south china sea and ramming boats from the philippines in disputed waters. china also claims sovereignty over the aide which japan considers its own territory. kishida promises to strengthen the military. >> the drays i can strengthening of our military operations is an urgent task. geoff: on the economic point, the biden administration last month came out against the nippon company to buy u.s. based

u.s. steel, saying it is vital for it to remain an american steel company. nippon steel fired back saying the deal would advance american priorities by driving greater quality and competitiveness. the white house makes clear it doesn't want to damage its relationship with japan. >> the president has been clear about making sure that steel workers in this country know he has their back but that doesn't take away one built from the terrific relationship we have with japan. overnight i spoke with prime minister kishida from his residence in tokyo. welcome to the newshour. one of the many items on the agenda for your meeting when you come to the u.s. is focused on any upon steel.

president biden is steal. president biden is opposed to the planned sale of u.s. steel to nippon steel of japan, and he suggests it's a national security issue and that the us, as he says, needs to mpanies powered by americaneel steel workers. do you feel president biden is making a mistake? prime minister: well, with regard to the specific case of us steel, since the individual discussions are going on, amongst the direct parties concerned, i would chosen not to directly comment on it. however, with regard to the japan-u.s. alliance, it is stronger than ever. and japan has grown to be now the world's largest foreign investor into the united states and creating lots of jobs in the united states, and it is expected that this investment is going to be expanded even further. so in order to make this trend for win win more firm and definite, i think, what we need to do is to ascertain sustainable and inclusive economic growth in the asia pacific and, work together, so that rule-based economic order can be sustained and maintained and based on that the basic notion on the economic front as well, i will continue to work strongly toward.

geoff: while you're in washington next week, sir, you and president biden will agree to tighten military corps ration. japan wants to establish the joint command headquarters before the end of march 2025, because of the concern about the threat that china poses. what will this strengthened u.s.-japan military relationship be able to do in the future that it cannot do now? prime minister: i've seen in the russian aggression against ukraine as well as the situation in israel and palestinian. in terms of the international community, it is really faced with the historical turning point. and in that context, i am of the view that, importance of japan u.s. alliances is growing even more. and after world war ii, i would say that in terms of the inter pacific situation for japan, i think the international situation wise, it is the most severe and complicated situation. that is why at the end of 2022, japan had put it together, the national security strategy, in which it was decided that the defense expenditure, will be raised to 2% of g.d.p.

i hope that in my visit to the united states, this time, japan and the united states will be able to deepen into discussion on how our security cooperation can further be expanded. geoff: will this new joint military headquarters would that would that be responsible for planning u.s. japanese exercise and training training, or would it actually be involved in actual military operations? prime minister: well, based on the national security strategy that japan had formulated, we are now planning to form the joint headquarters. however, the control per se will remain individually to each of the states concerned, namely japan and the united states, under the new system, i'm make sure that, japan and the united states will make that coordination accordingly. geoff: would this new command be involved in the coming to the defense of taiwan if china were to attack taiwan? president biden has said on a number of occasions that the u.s. would

come to the defense of taiwan. in that case, would japan come do the same? prime minister: well, i would refrain from answering your question, your hypothetical question about the taiwan contingency. however, the peace and stability over the taiwan straits is very important, and not only for japan's security, but also for the stability of the entire international community. therefore, we have always taken consistently the position that, issues over taiwan is to be resolved through dialogue in a peaceful fashion. of course, we will convey what we are thinking formally to the china. and also continued working closely, with allies like the united states and other like minded countries so that our position can be clearly, communicated. geoff: what's your level of concern, though, about chinese military activities in the south china sea and elsewhere in asian waters? what do you believe is president xi's ultimate goal in asia? prime minister: well, with

regard to china, without affording adequate transparencies they are expanding military strength in this part of the region, inclusive of the nuclear and missile capabilities in a broad way and in such a speedy fashion. they are increasing their cooperation with russia as well. so in the sea of japan, in the pacific ocean and so forth, their military activities are expanding, and also becoming much more intensified. so we are asking them to raise their transparency and act, along with international code of conduct. geoff: during the visit, you'll be announcing cooperation in space. is japan pushing to be the first non-american on the moon, and has the u.s. agreed to that plan? prime minister: with regard to space, it has been confirmed that japan will extend its cooperation in that area. so this is the dream, that a japanese astronaut, might be stepping his feet on the, face of the moon. hope that, when i

visit the united states, it will become one of the outcomes of the discussion. geoff: you mentioned ukraine earlier. let's return to that. does u.s. military support for ukraine make it harder for the us to meet its commitments in asia? prime minister: well, russia's aggression against ukraine is a reckless deed which shakes the foundation of the international order with a strong sense of crisis that today's ukraine might become tomorrow's east asia. i have been dealing with this issue, continuing the severe sanctions against russia and the continuing strong support of ukraine. and, on the 19th of february, tokyo had hosted the japan-ukraine conference on economic growth and reconstruction and, based on that, of course, that japan will continue its cooperation to ukraine. and, of course, the international community has to cooperate in sending strong messages constantly to russia because some of the asian countries might take it wrong. geoff: do you believe that

support for ukraine, as many in the u.s. argue is important as a possible deterrent to china in the region? prime minister: we really need to maintain international order, which is based on the rule of law and which is free and open. and we should never allow any country to make it a habit to be aggressive against others and if that is allowed then that would send the wrong messages to, countries all over the world, including, asia. geoff: the north koreans launched another ballistic missile this week. how much of this new military partnership is about containing the north and its aggression? and what's your level of concern about the apparent military cooperation among china, russia and the dprk? prime minister: of course, the nuclear and missile development by dprk threatens not only japan, but also the peace and stability of the entire international community. i sense that very lately, the level of the dprk missile development capability is improving, very significantly. that is what i sense and i have a deep sense of crisis over that

therefore, the cooperation amongst allies and with the like minded countries, specifically between japan and the united states and the republic of korea, we really need to enhance our cooperation. and as you mentioned, the dprk is having a concrete cooperation with russia, for example. so this is, of course, the concern shared by east asian kunce. therefore, the international community has to cooperate even more. geoff: and lastly, sir, japan was one american ally that managed to get along with former president donald trump. and if president trump is reelected, what advice do you have for other u.s. allies on how to interact with him? prime minister: i would say that regardless of the outcome of the upcoming presidential election in the yeast, because of this more complicated situation, the

japan-u.s. alliance grows in importance even more and i believe this is a common recognition in the u.s., going beyond party lines. so this is why i've decided to visit the united states, to reinforce the continued alliance and continue our relationship. i hope that a japan-u.s. alliance important will be understood as very important not only, in the security area, but also in the economic area as well. so i hope that, us will be able to reaffirm once again how e united states.ng my visit to geoff: japanese prime minister, kishida, we thank you for your time and thank you for speaking with us. prime minister: i thank you from the bottom of my heart and i thank you once again for your

cooperation. geoff: there is growing concern tonight about the continuing spread of the highly contagious bird flu in the u.s. as william brangham explains, while federal health officials say the risk to humans is low, the virus has now spread to dairy cattle and sickened one person. william? william: that's right, geoff. this train of bird flu, called h5n is has been sickening bird flocks across america for a few years now. millions have been killed to prevent further spread. yesterday, the country's biggest egg producer halted production when chickens at one its facilities got sick. but this virus has also been infecting mammals, most recently dairy cows in five different states. this week, a person in texas tested positive after workin with cattle. he's had mild symptoms and is expected to recover. for more on this virus, we're joined again by jennifer nuzzo. she runs the pandemic center at brown university's school of public health. jennifer, so good to have you back on the program.

dr. mandy cohen, the head of the c.d.c. says the risk to humans from this virus is low. they're monitoring it and there's no reason to worry at this point. is that where you come down? >> i think it's true that the risk to the general public is quite low and i think it's important that we continue to monitor the virus to make sure it doesn't change. one thing i do worry about is the risk to farm workers, we do know that exposure to sick animals can result in human infection and we've seen that now to date with two cases in the united states, the most recent being in a worker that worked with sick cows so i do worry about protecting farm workers but for the general public, the risk of contracting this virus is currently low. >> let's talk about this infection. someone who apparently had been working with cattle that had been in factedded with this bird virus. how should we see that route of infection? in does happen every now and

then. a widespread infection amongst animals that jumps to one human. >> we're t traing this virus for 20 years and in the last two years it has become a lot more concerning in terms of number of see cheese this virus has shown itself capable of infecting. it has predominantly affected wild birds and domesticated birds but over the last two years we've seen the species range affected grow quite a bit to include mammals and that is quite alarming. this is the first time we've seen it in cows. they haven't particularly been seen to get insurance fluenta a, which is the type of virus this is. that is also new and surprising but we have in the past seen humans that have had direct contact with sick animals get sick.

it doesn't happen that often but concerning because some cases have been deadly. fortunately in this case, the symptoms have been quite mild. the sick worker has conjunctivitis and ainfla ainflammation. while we're glad about a mild infection, we don't yet know why that is. >> if it were to go from human to human, that's when it would be really troubling, is that correct? >> we're worried that this virus may gain additional functionality and additional ability to infect humorrenings and the worst case scenario is this virus gaining the ability to be transmitted easily between humorrenings. in the past there have been a few cases that we haven't been able to rule out limited human to human transmission but that

medium human transmission hasn't been sustained and been relatively rare. but we're watching in virus primarily to ensure it doesn't gain the ant to infect humans more easily and spread between humorrenings easily. >> right now there is no evidence of that happening? >> no, it's not. but we don't often get head starts or early warnings or future health threats so why you're hearing a lot of health officials talking in a concerned manner is because we want to make sure we get ahead of it and don't allow this virus to infect many more animals or humans to give it any more ability to gain the functionality to infect humans more easily. >> for people who are seeing that these will occasions in dairy cows and egg-laying chickens. what do you tell them about eating milk and eggs? >> it's long been health advice

not to eat raw milk or eggs. >> the u.s. has been focusing on threat of pandemic influenza for decades now put we saw how covid punched all these holes in what we thought was a robust plan of preparations. no word that this is happening but are you concerned that we could respond in a smart and timely way if in game more severe? >> i think that's why we're talking about it now. our recent experience with covid was quite humbling in a hot of ways. we have a bit more experience dealing with the influenta and the bird virus. and in many ways we have more resources and more familiarity with flu.

however, every type of event is going to be challenging so i think that's why it's really urgent that we use in moment where we are getting some concerning signals from the animal world about potential human health threats to make sure we have everything we need to be able to respond if this virus does take a turn for the worse. >> jennifer, nuzzo, brown university school of public health. thank you so much. >> thanks for having me. geoff: the race for the white house takes money, a lot of it. yesterday, the trump campaign and republican national committee said they raised more than $65 million in march as they try to catch up to the nearly $100 million cash advantage biden and the democrats had a month earlier. both candidates are using the campaign funds to reach key voting blocs and to push their core messages.

domenico of npr has been following the money and joins me now. it's always great to see you. the biden campaign has a clear edge over donald trump. how much does that matter in a race like this one when the candidates are so well known and so well defined. >> i think it's a strong argument to say that these guys are so well defined that maybe all that tv money doesn't really matter as much but i would say this is kind of like a world war i election. you're spending a lot for a few feet of important ground. it's pretty marginal as far as the groups they need to win. biden, it's very important for him because he's behind in the swing states. we've seen that biden's campaign and groups supporting him are spending about $13.5 since super thursday to only about $3

million or so for trump and his team. a lot of that money that trump's campaign is using are digital avid pitches from save america asking people for more money. eventually the money will get there but right now they're needing to get for of it. >> what groups are the campaigns trying to reach with all of this money? >> why early advertising can matter is because you want to win over groups that you might have vulnerabilities with or try to define your opponent. the biden campaign understands that trump has been off the airwaves for the last three years and some people may not see him as urgent a threat for the people who voted for biden, for example, in 2020. so they try to win them over in words. part of storing up your vulnerabilities for biden is s'moring up latino, black and young voters. young voters, 1-29, 61%

disapprove and latinos, 61% disapproving and that's why we're seeing the ads we're seeing right now from biden. [speaking another language] >> insulin that cost $135, that is the difference between biden >> and donald trump. >> for women, the freedom to decide our own bodies. >> this is the difference between joe biden >> or donald trump. >> now let's listen to an ad that donald trump also ran in 2020 quite a bit. [spanish music] >> definitely a different

approach. good luck getting that out of your head in the next couple of days. geoff: how are the campaigns using these ads to reinforce their positions? >> one of the big issues for the biden campaign is on abortion rights, on women's reproductive rights and using trump's words is of the ways they're going on the airwaves and let's listen to that. >> because for 54 years, they were trying to get roe v. wade terminated and i did it and i'm and i'm proud to have done it. >> now in 2024, donald trump is rrunning to pass a national ban on a woman's right to choose. >> it's an ad running in a lot of place. one place i'm looking at is florida, whether or not they're going to run that ad there. they're really spending money on

it in michigan, pray, wisconsin. gee, i wonder why. they're looking to build the blue wall back. geoff: the third party group no labels announced today they're not going to field a fresh candidate after spending impacts of dollars to find a candidate. >> they got on the ballot in 19 states, raised billions but they couldn't field a candidate so they abandoned their effort. it's a lot of money they wound up having to spend. i know the biden campaign is thrilled about this. i've gotten texts from interest groups on the left who were fighting against no labels but they feel like the path to the white house for trump is getting a third-party candidate who can sift votes from biden. so having one of these groups out is important for the biden campaign. the next target is robert f.

kennedy jr. and we've wean seen ads from groups on the left that have popped up to target him. geoff: thank you so much. >> thank you, geoff. geoff: last night we reported from mexico on the increasingly global migration through that country to the u.s.-southern gourder and tonight anna continues that journey. starting in arizona. how often do you do this drive? >> about three times a week. >> it's a time-honored tradition to giving help to the stranger. >> he's the founder of green valley samaritans and almost a

quarter of a century he's provided aid to migrants. >> a year ago we were running into groups in the desert, 10, 15 people a day. now we're running into 300400 a day. >> but it's not just more people, kansas where they're coming from. >> hey, you guys need anything? [speaking in spanish] >> within minutes of reaching the border wall, pastor randy is out of the truck and handing out granola bars and water to a group of men from bangladesh. they tell me they've been traveling for three months and just arrived at this makeshift border camp. before long, more arrivals. they're from guatemala, filing the samaritans after walking for five hours. the group, including a 5-year-old have been travel for a month. a five minute drive further down the border road, another large

group that recently crossed, including this father and his children from senegal. >> six months ago we had never seen somebody from bangladesh or africa in this part of the desert. it was all mexicans and central americans and sometimes a few people from south america but now this is pretty regular. >> i notice one of the first things you say is welcome. >> yeah, we want to make sure that at least their first encounter is one of great welcome and saying we are glad you are here. >> among the group are three sisters. 13-year-old nicole, a 14 yield and 8-year-old. they're traveling alone from the southernmost state in mexico. do you see any other kids traveling alone along the way? >> no, most had their families or their parents or their aunts and uncles or even close cousins. everybody had somebody. >> and you have each other? >> yes, just us three.

>> the sisters are heading to reunit with their mother, their sole provider who came to the u.s. seven and a half years ago to support the family. over the phone she shares her relief that her daughter has made it safe live across the border. >> i was desperate and so scared because i didn't know what was going on. >> the girls, like everyone here are now just waiting to turn themselves into border patrol. virtually all will seek aabsolutely in the u.s., a legal procedure that takes years to determine. but now, spirits seem high. but in this remote stretch of the so northern desert, the journey can quickly turn dire. 2:00 in the afternoon, i just met in group of folks that just crossed the border in the middle of the night. two are very, very sick.

they said neighbor waiting for border patrol to arrive for hours. now they have arrived. an hour passes, a group is taken by ambulance to a hospital more than 0 minutes wavment this border is the deadliest immigration route in the world. in arizona's county, more than 3,000 immigrants have died in the last seven years. >> we are saving lives day in and day out. >> along the same span of rugged terrain, steven with u.s. border protection echoes that sentiment. >> when they're pushing family groups across in the middle of nowhere, that's been a big challenge. >> when you say the organizations, you mean the car tease? >> the cartels control everything here. >> she leads them to a sector.

>> tucson sector is the most inhospitable terrain on the southwest border. >> how does that impact your resources? what does that mean for your team? >> it makes it incredibly difficult for us to respond in a quick manner. for us, the number one thing is safety and safety of life. >> driving that board with the at, we quickly get a sense of what his team is managing. this group of 1 migrants, all mexicans, crossed the border just moments earlier through a broken section of the border fence. the pace of what border patrol calls give-ups or people turning themselves this is relentless. apprehensions here were up 30% in march chaired to a year ago and just down from record level as few months ago. the group is loaded on to a van to be taken to a nearby facility in nogales, arizona.

>> they'll get a them screening. >> before he can finish his thought, he sees another group approaching. do you have staff, space, resources to support all of them? >> it might be a little bit before we get the next van. [speaking in spanish] >> over the course of arn hour, we document at least 70 people. minors, families, children as young as 6 months crossing the border to turn helps themselves in at this one remote spot. but it's not just asylum seeker. the agent says a masked man on the border fence is likely a scout for a cartel. >> he'll watch us, if it's people or drugs, whatever that guy is looking to push across, he's looking to tie up our resources, get us out of the area. >> moments earlier agents on a.t.v.'s marched two men out of the brush who had been evading

border patrol. it's a sight that fif fifth-generation rancher jim: chilton citizen he's increasingly seeing along his ranch. >> the obama and trump administration averaged about 230 people coming to the ranch. in the last few years it's been about 1200 people. >> chilton tracks them using motion activated cameras on his property. >> what do you think should be done to stop those guys from cutting through your ranch? >> president biden made a huge mistake stopping the wall. a wall is a very helpful tool. it would require the border patrol being at the wall and anybody who tried to cut it or crawl under or over it, they've apprehend them and kick them back into mexico. >> he says he supports more legal immigration pathways but the current flow of people

claiming asylum is untenable. >> i feel for the undoubted immigrants. they're just trying to get into the country but we can't accept everybody that has an issue. >> a lot of folks on the outside looking in says there's a siege going on, an invasion at the border. is that how you see it? >> when you have 8 to 10 million people coming into the united states, one could almost say it's an invasion. >> but opinions differ. chilton's neighbor just down the road doesn't see it the same way. cattle rancher lori lindsay's property also runs across the mexico border. >> i've lived in nine states. this is my favorite place. >> and this comes with a view of the border wall, right here. >> [laughter] it does. oh, i hadn't noticed. >> lindsay says she's never felt

threatened and doesn't put much stock in the immigration debate from people thousands of miles away. >> if you don't know it sounds like we're being invaded, criminals are coming to get us but it just isn't true. there is a problem with the cartels. we need to deal with those. but you have that and then you off mother who's come seven countries away with her young children, i think how desperate are you? >> back at the border, the division chief and border patrol agents are on the front lines on disentanging these two issues anding inning a humanitarian issue that many border patrol agents didn't necessarily sign up for. do you worry about seeing hundreds of people a day, thousands a week that there's compassion fatigue, burnout? >> i don't think so. it's hard to look at a group like this and see all these

little kids. those kids didn't ask themselves to be here. imagine having to make shows sacrifices, make those decisions to travel hundreds of thousands of miles with that little girl. she's probably 9 months old. maybe a year. no, i don't worry about compassion fatigue. pastor randy and the green valley samaritan volunteers say they're frustrated by elected officials' failure to about. >> for over 30 years, both the republicans and democrats haven't chosen to do anything but throw money at security andivity hasn't changed a single thing. in fact, it's probably brought more people here. >> as the sun starts to set, does thens of migrants wait for border patrol to arrive. including the sisters, eagerly anticipating seeing their mother for the first time in more than seven years. >> it's been so long since i've

seen her. >> but after we leave, that excitement turnedded to worry. in a moment of confusion as night fell over the desert, the girls are left behind by a border patrol van. their mother alerted newshour. we alerted border patrol who carried out an overnight rescue of the girls. last week the sisters reunited with their mother. three more survivors who've reached their next safe space, whatever the path ahead. geoff: a new documentary captors the tory of a journalist's gender transition while embedded with the taliban

but he has to keep his identity a secretary. he and the co-maker spoke to anna earlier this week about this turning point in afghanistan and the risks of navigating a relationship with the taliban. >> thank you so much for joining us on newshour. pleasure to speak with you both. >> at the beginning of this film you'd been living in afghanistan for a number of years working as a filmmaker for the "new york times." you began documenting one group of taliban fighter after they retook control of the country and at thesame time you are in the process of your own gender transition. at what point do you decide ifield to turn the cameras the other way and start telling my story? >> i started the medical transition about five months before the taliban took over.

as a filmmaker i'm thinking it could be interesting to document this process in a place like a.f.c. and because i wanted to use my story to show the version of afghanistan that i had experienced, which was a beautiful, welcoming, loving afghanistan. >> and monica, how'd you come to collaborate with jordan on this. >> i had heard about him before as that australian d.p. cinematographer who had really intimate access to the taliban so i was already wondering who is this guy? that's when we met and jordan said come here but i'm not sure i want to do a film about myself and i convinced him because i really think -- it takes enormous courage to do something so intimate about your own process but i thought his story was extraordinary. >> there's one scene that speaks to sort of the everyday navigation that you had to manage when you're deciding

whether to go through the men's security line or the women's security line at the airport. here's a quick clip. >> should i go through the men's or women's security check? >> women. >> why? >> because if you wear a mask and cover your face, they will know you from me. because they know me, that i am with you always. >> i'm so sick of being stressed about this. [speaking another language] >> jordan, in a country like afghanistan, how difficult were those kinds of choices for you to navigate? >> it was terrifying, honestly because there's no precedent for something like this. to my knowledge there's not been another transgender person, afghan or foreign, who was

pre-surgery but leaving amongst the taliban as their desired or their felt gender rather than their assigned at birth gender. my colleague, the stakes for him was so much higher, the trauma of having to bond with these afghannings or working with was far more difficult for him. i was really worried for teddy the whole time. what would they have done if they'd found out? i don't know, i don't want to know. >> monica, jordan was allowed to embed with these taliban fighters because they believed he was male. you are not allowed to embed with them because you are a woman. at the same time this is a point in afghanistan history where women are being banned from politics. what was it like when you were there?

>> i had to be locked up in the hotel. not leaving because i was scared to leave alone. you can't go anywhere in these places without a male companion and jordan and a crew went on a car ride for about eight hours with multiple checkpoints and i could not go through any of those checkpoints. a woman was not allowed. it was a very rural and remote vary area. that was really hard. >> it's a very personal film, jordan. it's your story but also the story of this country transitioning from what it was to what it is today. you struggled with the idea of when and how to leave. here's that moment. >> so many foreigners have built, me included, we've built our careers, our bank accounts, our networks, our status and our reputation off the misery of afghanistan. for me, the least i can [beep]

do is stick it out when the going gets touch and give back. >> jordan, you did eventually have to leave. how do you reflect on that decision now? >> it was a big decision. i lived in afghanistan for six and a half years and it's the most significant relationship i've ever had. it is an incredible place and as a filmmaker it's a gift but when i was convinced do make the film i knew it meant i would have to cut muay thais with afghanistan most likely, for the foreseeable future, at least and i'm hoping that the film adds value to the world and adds conversations to people that make it worth having to end that relationship for a while. >> monica, what do you want people to take away from this film? >> for me personally, i just fire what reporters in war zones do. i want people to take away from

it that they watch it and know what a hard sacrifice on a personal level it is to go to these war zones and report and how important it is that we keep on doing this. there are many urgent things happening happening in the world. in fawaza and ukraine, in many places and we all fact cisse part of our personal lives to to this. it's almost like a love letter to journalism because i think it is a profession so worth it. >> thank you so much for joining us. a pleasure to speak with you. ♪ geoff: and there's a lot more online including a look at veterans with debilitating lung ailments and they're struggle to get benefits. you can read more at

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