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pursuing solutions for america's neglected needs. announcer: and now, "bbc news" e context" on bbc news. e >> they have to do that in accordance with international humanitarian law, protect civilian lives. too many siblings have already lost their lives. get more aid into gaza. that is what we have called for. >> these vehicles were carrying humanitarian aid workers. this is why we want answers really from the israeli government. >> humanitarians and civilians should never be paying the consequences of war. this is a basic principle of humanity. >> the claim of israel or the israeli army that there was no
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intention, it was a mistake, it was by chance, all of that sounds now quite ridiculous. ♪ ben: pressure on israel grows after seven aid workers were killed in an israeli airstrike, that forces aid agencies to halt their work in the region. also tonight come the latest from taiwan after 7.4 magnitude earthquake hit the island, the strongest in 25 years. more than 100 people are still trapped tonight in the rubble. nato leaders to send in brussels for a key summer for support on ukraine a central topic of their compensation. the british secretary lord cameron has called on members to ensure they spend at least 2% of the gross thomistic product on defense -- domestic product on defense.
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we are live in the capital of haiti where the state of emergency is set to lapse. already concerned that a dangerous situation there could spiral out of control again. we started in the middle east and israel is under growing international pressure after the deaths of those seven aid workers, three of them british, killed in an israeli airstrike in gaza. president joe biden has said he is outraged and heartbroken by what happened. the british foreign secretary lord cameron called it a dreadful event and he paid tribute to those who were killed , saying they were brave humanitarian workers. their charity, world central kitchen, released these pictures of the aid workers who died when their convoy was hit on monday. the seven staff work from the united kingdom, australi poland, as well as a dual u.s.-canadian citizen, and
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palestinian driver. the three british men, john chapman, james henderson, james kirby, were working as security advisors. israel said the strike was unintended and promised to investigate. our reporter dan johnson has been talking to the family of james kirby and reports. dan: humanitarian aid relies on people like this, the three british men killed providing security advice in gaza. >> he has died a hero, they all have. dan: james kirby's relatives share the grief that has reached bristol and six other families around the world. >> for him to lose his life in that situation is just heartbreaking. you know, he lost his life doing that. >> he knew it was dangerous, he was selfless in that regard, just wanted to help people. dan: their cars were hit by
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israelis military returning to base after escorting food into gaza. >> the cars looked to me to be clearly marked. with today's technology, you would think they could see that clearly, that these vehicles were carrying humanitarian aid workers. this is why we want answers really from the israeli government. dan: john chapman family said he died trying to help people and was subject to an inhumane act. he was an incredible father, husband, son, and brother. james henderson was another former military man using his skills and experience to feed gaza's hungry. >> we were told that their route was safe. why wasn't it? >> israel has been accused of not protecting civilian life. do you think that is the case? >> undoubtedly. that needs to change. humanitarian aid workers need to be able to do their work. dan: this was a terrible
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accident, israel says, but according to the u.n., nearly 200 aid workers have died in this conflict, unconscionable, the secretary-general says. >> now, no one will be going to help these people, and it will drop into absolute chaos. there is international pressure now. let's hope that responses heard by israel. transparency, an investigation, and answers, and there is hope that these debts after thousands in gaza finally prompt some change. ben: so what do we know about how the israeli strikes resulting in the deaths of those seven aid workers unfolded? our diplomatic corresponnt paul adams has been looking closely at what happened. paulit just collected around 100 tons of food aid just south of gaza city. the team escorted the aide to a
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warehouse in the middle of the gaza strip. from there, the team, seven people in three cars, headed back to the coast road marked in blue, which is one of the designated routes rael insists they use, and turned south toward their base in rafah. shortly afterwards, the first car was hit. this is how it looked the following morning. according to the israeli newspaper ha'aretz, passengers were seen moving to one of the other two cars, but a few hundred yards on, that, too, was hit. you can clearly see the world central kitcn logo on the roof. the same thing happened again. team members moving to the third car. minutes later and one mile further down the road, another strike. all seven members of the team were now dead. with calls for a proper investigation coming in from all over the world, one thing is clear.
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israeli forces almost certainly using a grown deliberately and very precisely hit all three vehicles. what everyone wants and needs to know is why? ben: let's talk about why. we can go to jerusalem and speak with the israeli government spokesperson. thank you for being with us on bbc news. these aid workers were on an approved route, part of an operation that have been coordinated with the israeli authorities. what went wrong? >> thank you for having me on. this was a tragic mistake, as my prime minister said. the people of israel grieve with the families today. there is an ongoing investigation, preliminary findings find it was a mistake. i cannot really add much more
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information and i cannot confirm the details of the report that you just gave. what i will say is these are the unsung heroes of war, the people that go out to give food to people that need it. at a time when hamas is actively stealing the food, making it difficult for their own people in gaza. ben: you said it was a grave mistake, that you grieve with the families of those who died. do you know apologize to those families? >> the idf chief of staff was unequivocal with his apology. he said clearly he was very sorry for what happened. we are going to get to the bottom o it. we will do an independent transparency investigation -- ben: when you say independent, what does that mean? >> there will be a third party involved to investigate it. i don't have the precise details of how that will work but this is my understanding. we hope that there will be details of that in the coming
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days. ben: so we get that in a few days, that result? >> that is my understanding. ben: in the meantime, the people responsible for this in the idf, do they continue to serve, still serving in gaza? >> i am not an idf spokesperson, i wouldn't want to give you that information because i don't have it. but i can tell you the idf goes out of its way to limit civilian casualties like no other army in the world which is why this situation has taken us by shock. that is why we are grieving. the people of israel are with the families of those who passed. ben: you say shock, but the u.n. secretary general has said 196 aid workers have been killed in this conflict. is this not a pattern of behavior? this is not a one-off. >> i reject those numbers entirely. those are based on hamas figures. we know that if those numbers were true, they would include
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u.n. workers select those who participated in the october 7 massacre, who actively took israeli hostages, held them in their homes. i would reject those numbers. our military experts from england and america have said that israel has gone out of its way to get civilians out of harm's way and do its utmost to go after hamas. our fight is with hamas, not the people of gaza. we will continue to destroy hamas, bring home the hostages held against their will, crime against humanity, and ensure gaza doesn't become a threat to us ever again. ben: you wl know the criticism which is that your troops in gaza are essentially trigger-happy. 33,000 people have been killed in this conflict. your troops even killed re-of your own hostages who had a white flag in december. >> again, this is outlandish
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acsations against our army. this is outlandish based on hamas figures, copying and pasting hamas figures as if hamas had not just plowed through our borders and butchered babies. they butchered the truth. ben: so what is the true death toll then? >> according to my prime nister, the ratio is less than 1:1. in an average war it would be 1:9. we have taken off the battlefield a liberal estimate, more than 25,000 hamas and islamic jihad terrorists, that means killed, apprehended, or injured. ben: some people are saying this is a watershed moment for israel, in that it is now increasingly, after this incident, which has caused international horror and outrage, israel is increasingly isolated and ostracized. even people who were sympathetic to israel after october 7 are
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really questioning what israel is doing in gaza. >> i would question those people's moral clarity. we stand with your ally, a free democratic country fighting for its survival. we are fighting a war on multiple fronts. if it is syria in the north, lebanon in the north, the houthis in the south, or even an iranian drone came over from iraq and hit a target yesterday. this is iran and the iranian proxy of terror that is fighting, that wants to destroy us. they don't want just to destroy us. and they say we are the small satan and the west is the great satan. people need to wake up and understand, the same audiology that came after us on october 7, is the same ideology that came on london. hamas became famous for suicide bombings on buses. then you saw suicide bombings on
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a double-decker bus in london. this is the hamas we are up against. we have to destroy them. ben: the israeli government spokesperson, thank you for your time. we can also talk now to the labour party, prominent campaigner for refugees. can i ask you the same question, do you think this is a watershed moment in terms of international opinion about what israel is doing in gaza? >> i think it is, because it has brought home to us exactly what is happening and how our aid workers have become targets and get killed. mind you, a lot of aid workers have been killed over the last few months, so this is not the first time. three of them happen to be british, we are more aware of them, and it will change the terms in which we treat israel. ben: in terms of the work of relief agencies in gaza, it's
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become a more difficult and dangerous -- some are stopping their work, some will continue -- that it is a desperate situation for the relief workers who are doing their best to do get food to those who needed in gaza. >> it's a tragedy because these people are doing something to avert starvation, provide medical assistance to vulnerable human beings in the gaza strip. they are being let down by what israel has done today. what israel has been doing the past two months. as tragic as the october 7 situation was, terrible tragedy, the fact is that what is happening since has drawn attention away from that, drawn attention away from the fact that unlike the previous is really speaker, the israelis are not being careful about avoiding civilian casualties. otherwise, why would more than 30,000 people be killed by israelis in the past months? ben: he says those were hamas
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figures, and also says hamas is a dangerous force that everyone wants to see destroyed. >> hamas is a dangerous enemy, they are terrorists, and vile people, but i'm afraid israel's behavior is not helping them. most palestinians i don't believe our hamas supporters. they will become that if israel persists in what they are doing. we have to win the hearts and minds ofhe palestinians. we cannot do that by stopping them, denying them, by murdering the people who are providing aid. ben: we heard a lot of words of condemnation from politicians around the world, from joe biden downward. what should governments like the u.s. and u.k. governments do in terms of weapons supplies, arms supplies to israel? they are continuing. there is a lot of talk from various campaigners, politicians saying, britain, for example,
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needs to stop sending weapons to israel. where would you stand on that? >> i think we should stop because they are being used to attack the population of gaza. i think we should do it in conjunction with other countries, especially the americans. there should be an international ban on sending military equipment to israel while this more lasts. i certainly believe that should happen. we should also apply some sanctions to israel, make sure the international community condemns israel forcibly. the israelis will be short friends and allies the way they are behaving, and that is dangerous to the future of israel. the sooner netanyahu realizes it, the sooner he will change course. i don't think things will get better until he is removed. i don't ink the majority of people in israel support him and he is a danger to the future of those israelis. ben: lord dubs, thank you for being with us on bbc news. we will take a short break now.
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ben: welcome back. let's take a closer look now at the challenges facing humanitarian agencies in gaza after the deaths of those 78 workers on monday and israeli airstrikes. the united nations have been warning for weeks of potential famine in gaza. now there are concerns from a number of aid agencies about how to keep providing relief supplies safely and to keep their staff in gaza safe. muslim aid is one group trying to get aid into gaza. let's talk to their ceo, who joins us now from the egyptian side of the rafah border. thank you for being with us. after these latest deaths of a
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workers, is that going to deter you from working in gaza? >> before i answer that, let me give condolences to all the people that have lost their lives from wck. muslim aid are committed to working in gaza. ben: what is that work, what are you doing, how are you trying to help? >> we have been there for over 20 years, but the scale that we see now is unprecedented. we have partners on the ground who are taking trucks in from the turkish side. we are going to send some ships in as well. hopefully they will get in, from the jordanian side, from every angle we are trying to get aid in the best way possible. ben: to keep your staff safe, we've been finding out about how aid agencies work in gaza, this idea of de-confliction, where
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they tell the authorities what they are doing. they agree on approved roots. -- routes. is that how it works, how difficult is it to get the agreement? >> that will happen with our partners who are in contact with the israeli military, let them know exactly where they are at all times. our partners on the ground would be doing that on our behalf. ben: as we see with this example, the 78 workers killed on monday, even when an agency goes into all the detail of where their staff is going to be, what route they are going to be on and so on, it can go tragically wrong and lives can be lost. >> nowhere is safe and because at the moment. people --humanitarian workers, journalists, civilians.
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a lot of the people from outside egypt that we ha spoken to, they believed that they were being targeted, women, children being rgeted. these are people in egypt right now who are in hospital having treatment. they believed they were indiscriminate he targeted. again, i am just telling you what i hear from the patients. ben: in terms of the level of need, hunger, people talking about starvation and famine even in gaza. how would you assess the level of need amongst ordinary people there? >> unprecedented. the ipc report said that gaza is on a level five famine. level four, over a known people in that situation no. level 3 three is a crisis. gaza is at a breaki point if not broken already.
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recently, you have acute infections going on in the south of gaza. you have diarrhea, bloody diarrhea. if these infections continue, they infect more, because of the malnutrition of the peopl people are going to die because there is no medication. hospitals are overwhelmed. we need to get the food in, we need to stop the bottlenecks, allow more aid in. yes, we are getting aid in but it is not enough, really not enough. that is what we need to do. we need government pressure to allow human and tiered agencies, the one still willing to work in gaza, able to get in. we need them to op up that safe passage for all of us to deliver that aid, to help the people, help the people of gaza. ben: the ceo of muslim aid,
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thank you for being with us. rescuers in taiwan are trying to reach dozens of people trapped in road tunnels after the most powerful earthquake there in a quarter-century. at least nine people have been killed and more than 800 injured. tsunami mornings were triggered in neighboring countries although they have now been scaled back. our correspondent sent this report. >> this is the moment the earthquake struck a type a tv station in the middle of its morning news show. the shaking was intense and prolonged, even in the capital, more than 100 miles from t quake's epicenter. this is what it did to morning traffic on an elevated highway, and two passengers on a metro train who remained remarkably calm as the car was tossed around like a toy. elsewhere, people ran for their lives, abandoning their coffees
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and breakfast. most young people here have never experienced a quake like this and were badly shaken. >> an earthquake has not happened in a long time, so it felt really terrifying. >> close to the epicenter in the city, the damage was much worse. you can see people running from their cars as the building on the left begins to collapse. dozens of buildings have been badly damaged. some no lean over at absurd angles, as it ready to topple at any moment. the death toll is so far mercifully low, but a number of injured has skyrocketed past 1000. eastern taiwan is a mountainous and rugged landscape. that brought another terrifying threat, landslides. along the coast, the quake unleashed maxim rock falls, whole mountainsides seemingly slipping into the valleys below.
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roads are now strewn with ssive boulders, bridges severed, tunnels blocked. these shots from a military helicopter show one famously paris lee stretch of road now completely cut off at both ends with cars and buses stuck inside. rescue crews are continuing to work in the night. in the city and across the island. dozens have been brought to safety but more than 140 people are still reported to be trapped. many of those still trapped are along this highway behind me. several dozen are reported to be tourists in buses trapped inside a tunnel. one can only imagine the horror of being inside the tunnel when the earth began to shake and the rocks began to fall. the race is on to get to them and bring them to safety. ben: the latest therefrom taiwan. you can get in touch with me and
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