♪ amna: good evening. i'm amna nawaz. geoff bennett is away. on "the newshour" tonight... president biden and prime minister trudeau announce an immigration deal to address the growing number of asylum seekers entering canada from the united states. house republicans push a controversial bill that would give parents more control over school curricula. and... a shortage of an asthma medication is expected to worsen after one of only two u.s. manufacturers shuts down. >> we really need additional manufacturers to step up and start adding this to their portfolio so that we're not reliant on a single source for the medication that we need for our patients. ♪

>> major funding for "the pbs newshour" has been provided by -- and with the ongoing support of these individuals and institutions, and friends of "the newshour," including jim and nancy goldman and kathy and paul anderson. >> actually, you don't need vision to do most things in life. yes, i am legally blind and yes, i am responsible for the user interface. data visualization -- if i can see it and understand it quickly, anyone can. it is exciting to be part of the team driving technology forward, i think that's the most rewarding thing. people who know, know bdo. >> the john s. and james l. knight foundation, fostering informed and engaged communities. more at kf.org. ♪

>> and with the ongoing support of these individuals and institutions -- and friends of "the newshour." ♪ this program was made possible by the corporation for public broadcasting and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. vanessa: good evening. i'm vanessa ruiz, in for stephanie sy, with "newshour west." here are the latest headlines. the united states and iran have come to blows again. american air strikes hit targets in eastern syria overnight. the strikes focused on deir el-zour and near the towns of mayadeen and boukamal, aiming at groups linked with iran's revolutionary guard. the pentagon says was

retaliation after an iranian-made drone killed a u.s. contractor and wounded several u.s. troops. brig. gen. ryder: we don't seek escalation with iran, but the strikes that we took last night were intended to send a very clear message that we will take the protection of our personnel seriously and that when we respond quickly and decisively if they're threatened. vanessa: tonight, syrian human rights monitors reported new air strikes after rockets were fired at a base housing american forces. and in canada, president biden said the u.s. military will do what's needed to safeguard its 900 troops in northeastern syria. french president emmanuel macron insisted today he won't be deterred from raising the retirement age to 64, despite the worst street violence in years. trouble erupted overnight after a day of largely peaceful protests. today, crews in paris sifted through damage in the wake of street battles between anarchists and police. but, macron vowed to press on. pres. macron: in the face of

violence, which i distinguish from the protests, we continue to be extremely firm. i assure the police of my full support, who did an exemplary job of my support. as to everything else, we continue to move forward. the country deserves it and needs it. vanessa: the attorney general of israel warned today that prime minister benjamin netanyahu is breaking a conflict of interest law. she said he is barred from pushing to overhaul the courts while on trial for corruption. on thursday, netanyahu said he's going ahead. in a letter today, the attorney general said, "your statement last night and any action you take in violation of this matter is illegal." paul rusesabagina has been released from custody and will leave rwanda soon. that's after the government there commuted his sentence. the former hotel manager saved hundreds of people in the 1994 genocide, inspiring the film "hotel rwanda." but in 2021, he was sentenced to 25 years in prison for terrorism

after accusing rwanda's president of human rights abuses. in ukraine, a new round of russian air attacks killed at least 10 civilians today and wounded 20 more. missiles, exploding drones, and artillery struck sites across southern and eastern ukraine. among the targets hit, an aid station, where five refugees died. meanwhile, the u.n. human rights office issued a report detailing killings and torture of prisoners of war on both sides. ms. bogner: we are deeply concerned about the summary execution of up to 25 russian prisoners of war and persons hors de combat by the ukrainian armed forces. we are also deeply concerned by the summary execution of 15 ukrainian prisoners of war shortly after being captured by russian armed forces. vanessa: back in this country, two are dead and others hospitalized after my country --

migrants reported being suffocated in a train car. the l.a. school district and the union for school employs have reached a deal after a historic strike that shut down schools for three days. according to the union, the agreement includes a 30% wage increase for workers include bus drivers, custodians and others. the deal must still be voted on by the full union. governor gavin newsom announced an end to some of california's most restrictive water restrictions today. all he did not declare the drought over, he said he will stop asking for californians to voluntarily cut water use by 15%. the announcement follows one of california's wettest winters on record. in kentucky, the democratic governor vetoed a republican bill focused on transgender children. it would and gender affirming care for those under 18 and restrict school bathrooms.

the republican dominated legislature passed of the bill by vetoproof margins and could vote next week on overwriting the veto. still to come on the newshour, david brooks and jonathan capehart weigh in on the week's political headlines. also, a collector of memories reflects on the u.s. invasion of iraq 20 years later. and a husband and wife team in rural indiana use art to combat consumerism and waste. and much more. >> this is "the pbs newshour" from weta studios in washington, and in the west from the walter cronkite school of journalism at arizona ste university. amna: on his first presidential trip to canada, president biden met with prime minister justin trudeau, and they announced a western -- a northern board and deal for migrants crossing from the u.s. and canada. last year, canada saw the

highest number of border crossings in five years, most in upstate new york, where the crossing into québec has become the busiest route for asylum-seekers. the deal allows candidates to turn away people at irregular entry points and send them back to the united states. canada also pledged to welcome some 15,000 central american migrants through legal pathways. prident biden spoke about the deal in the speech to canada's parliament today. pres. biden: i applaud canada stepping up with similar programs, opening new legal pathways for 1500 migrants to come to canada from countries in the western hemisphere. at the same time, the united states and canada will work together to discourage unlawful border crossings and fully implement and the updated safe third country agreement. welcoming refugees and seeking asylum seekers is a part of who canadians and americans are. amna: watching this all closely is abdulla daoud, he is the executive director of the refugee centre in montreal his group has been working with migrants who have crossed the border into canada.

welcome and thank you for joining us. let's start with the impact of that agreement announced today. how big a change in this is in in terms of how migrants are processed when they come into canada? abdulla: thank you for having me. it's a big change. like you said, we usually encounter about 40,000 individuals, this last year, and now the significant number reduced to 15,000. it's kind of scary. these individuals are seeking safety in canada and seeking asylum in canada. they are going to try to come here whichever way they can. it is big change. amna: what about the part of the deal in which canada will open up additional legal pathways for some 15,000 people to arrive from some of those south and central american countries, where we've seen a large amount of migration? what do you make of that? abdulla: it's a very small step.

like i said, 15,000 compared to the 40,000 we had in this last year. it's also just from the western hemisphere. if we are looking at the majority of individuals that come in, a lot of individuals come in from afghanistan, libya, yemen, west africa. it is a mix of individuals who are seeking safety. there is a global disorder right now and a lot of individuals are trying to migrate to safer areas because they are fing persecution. i don't think it's well thought out. i think it's a knee-jerk reaction to the politicization of the topic. amna: when you talk to these families you work with, what do they tell you about why they are deciding to try to come to canada in particular? abdulla: i think canada has this reputation that welcomes refugees and asylum-seekers. they do believe they have a chance at due process. that's the most important part. individuals don't feel they have the same safety in the united states. they believe their best chance

to seek safety and have their stories heard is in canada. amna: what about your immigration system? we have seen in the united states the system has been really taxed when we have seen the same increase of people arriving at the u.s. southern border. like many nations, canada is now seeing a dramatic rise in the number of people seeking asylum. how has your system been able to handle it? abdulla: just like any system, it's a little bit of a strain. but it's nothing we cannot handle. this past year, we accepted over 150,000 ukrainians as refugees into the country and our infrastructure was able to accommodate that. about 90,000 individuals claim ed this last year through points of entry, we were able to accommodate that as well. obviously with some more investment and more help, but it

is not a number that is unheard of. it is an increase but we can accommodate it and create systems to accommodate more. this kind of response is a bit fearful, because as historical examples show us, because when we are restricting migration patterns, people resort to different means and bad-faith actors might come into play and we could see human smuggling or human trafficking as well. amna: u.s. and canadian officials think agreements like this will help discourage unlawful migration. do you agree? abdulla: i don't think so. i think it would be a be pretty bad deterrent policy. i think individuals are coming to seek safety no matter what, by any means necessary. this is our fear. this is what the community organizations and advocacy groups we don't want bad-faith

, actors coming here and taking advantage of people, allowing more regularized pathways to migration with members that -- migration with higher numbers that actually reflect migration patterns is a better solution. 15,000 when we had 40,000 the past year, i don't think it is a good reform. amna: as you know, mr. trudeau's government pledged to increase immigration. they welcomed arriving refugees from syria with open arms. canada is always seen as a welcoming place for arriving populations. you think the increase you are seeing, the politics of this moment, you will see that change in canada in terms of the welcoming spirit? abdulla: no, i don't think so. the spirit of the people is very strong. i think everyone here is very welcoming towards refugees. i think there is politicization of this particular topic and with the wrong policy, people can polarize it. we are hopeful the correct path moves forward.

we think if these numbers are more regularized, it will continue our current welcoming spirit. these increased numbers again is just a reflection. 15,000 i think is just a drop in the bucket. we can definitely do more. we hope there is a current challenge to save the country in the court today, and we hope the challenge goes through. amna: executive director of the refugee center in montreal, thank you for joining us. ♪ today, the u.s. house stepped into the fiery debate about kids and classrooms, passing a bill that republicans say protects parents' rights in every school district but oppents call it a dangerous move in a culture war. our lisa desjardins reports. lisa: for years, flaring --

test: i am so upset i have to stand before this board. lisa: rising. >> you all beasley have a fully formed opinion. lisa: and sometimes warring -- roaring debates over schools and kids have now reached the u.s. capital. >> should parents have the right to be involved in their child's education? that is the question before us. >> what about the rights of our students? what about the rights of young people? why are my republican colleagues not advocating for students? lisa: where house republicans today passed what they call a priority bill. it is hr five, called the parents bill of rights. it would require that parents be allowed to see curriculum plans, lists of materials and can look at any available books. also that they will be told about school budgets and any incidents of violence.

republicans say it is simple. it comes out of years of covid lockdowns and parent sidelining that led to tension and this. a department of justice notice in about threats to teachers and 2021 school boards. some parents felt they were labeled as the threat. >> these parents are not to be labeled domestic terrorists, they are proud parents. lisa: but the debate shows this is also a political and cultural battle with much deeper layers to it. >> there is this hostility to traditional values that is seeping into the public schools today. lisa: and in response, deep opposition to this from some parents. >> no on hr5! lisa: these parents, from a group called the national parents union, believe the bill could harm their kids with a , chilling effect on what they can read. >> we got minnesota. we got illinois. lisa: they came from across the country to say it misses the real issues in schools.

jillian rainingbird is here from kansas city, missouri because , she sees increased violence and kids, especially kids of color, failed by schools and resource issues. a mom, including of one child with disabilities she thinks , this bill is a dangerous distraction. jillian: it's devastating to our communities that our kids can't read. but yet we still we want it to be what books are going to be taken out of the curriculum. if the kids cannot read, what is a matter? so let's start focusing on the real meat and potatoes and that's about student and family success. lisa: but others disagree, like the mom who sponsored the bill. and parents who joined her and speaker mccarthy at an event last month. >> hi. my name is stacey whomsley, i'm a resident of west chester, pennsylvania. sa: whomsley is a mom who ran and one a seat on e school board after her own experience

eling shut out from having a voice for her kids. >> to have my advocacy for my children characterized as some political ploy, was really hurtful. lisa: whomsley says the republican bill is also mischaracterized and is not about banning anything. >> it doesn't say this book is good, this book is bad. you can say this word. you can't say that word. what it says, what it affirmed is that parents have a right to know what is being taught. lisa: at the capital, though -- most controversial has been a part of the bill requiring that teachers notify parents if students are being treated as transgender. republicans say that addresses parent fears of being in the dark. >> our bill enshrines common sense transparency for parents of children to reflect these concerns. lisa: but democrats say that is dangerous for kids. >> this is about maga republicans who want to start a fake culture war targeting some of the most vulnerable kids in america

shame on you. lisa: all of this comes with its own civics lesson, about parents with the same ardent motivation but in completely separate conversations. >> this could be a unique opportunity to bring us together. but it could just keep pushing us apart. because we are not listening. we hear each other talking but we're not listening. lisa: house republicans celebrated the bill's passage today but it is not expected to move in the senate. to talk about what this means for families and in politics is jennifer berkshire. she's a journalist who co-hosts the education podcast have you heard anis co-author of a wolf at the schoolhouse door about the future of public education. let's start by taking the politicians out for a second. what do we know about where americans are about the issue of parents and schools? jennifer: one thing we know is the polls have been remarkably

consistent the past couple of years. parents and americans across the board, and i'm talking about both little parties, which is so unusual right now, opposition to anything having to do with book bands and limits on what teachers can teach and kids can learn is broad and deep. i think people might be surprised to hear that because these laws keep popping up, and must be in response to popular demand and that is not the case. amna: i want to take apart the -- lisa: i want to take apart the two sides of this. is there knowledge you have -- what do wenow about the idea that parents in this country are getting locked out? what is happening with school systems? jennifer: first of all, i think it's really important to acknowledge just how awful the pandemic was for everyone, but for parents in particular.

i think it would be a big mistake for us to write off this movement as astroturf or the product of politicians who want to stir the pot to reap political gold. there is definitely something going on. but it's also the case that the longer we see this movement and watch it evolve, the causes keep morphing and the demands get more and more extreme. whereas there was initially quite a lot of support for things like reopening schools and greater parent involvement in schools, now more and more as we see those demands start to translate into things like banning particular books or focusing so much attention on trans kids in particular, public opinion in favor of that movement diminishes. lisa: that's what i want to ask about. this bill that was passed in the

house, we don't think it will go much further, it doesn't have a book ban in it, but opponents say this is part of conservatives especially using the phrase parental rights to push opposition and even shut out some things that those parents oppose like books. what do you make of that? is this a behind-the-scenes pu, are these things connected, or is there no connection? jennifer: i thought it was really interesting that you heard so many republican leaders get really defensive about precisely that question and that's because they know that for more and more americans, the parents rights because -- c ause is getting harder and harder to distinguish from these unpopular book bands. one thing we should really remember is that there were a lot of politicians who ran on the parents rights cause during the midterms and they did not do well. we sought republicans win when they were up for reelection when they were reaching out to the

base. but as far as an issue that galvanized suburban women in particular, the parents rights cause was a failure. i think you hear that in these concerns of leaders on capitol hill who are worried that what they thought was going to be this cause that lured independence or suburban women is turning out to be something extreme and unpopular. lisa: i noticed something that i wasn't looking for but was hard to ignore. the photo on the left is of speaker mccarthy and the supporters of this parents rights bill. on the right, the opponents in the picture i took with them yesterday. there's a clear difference between these groups. on the left, the supporters mostly white. on the right, almost entirely people of color. it made me wonder what is the role of race here? is there one? jennifer: absolutely there is a

role. so many of the earliest iterations of these bills limiting what teachers can teach and kids can learn were focused on race. that picture you just showed is so striking, and part of the reason that we are seeing the popularity of the cause drop is precisely because of that. i could point you to one state after another where some kind of restrictive law has been passed and there is a version of the picture on the left that looks exactly like that. why is it always -- why are the kids always white? what is going on? and i think there is a strong element of race playing into this that people are definitely picking up on. lisa: one last quick question -- is this issue a fad or will this be here a long time? jennifer: this is not the first time we have seen parents rights

emerge as an issue. when it came up in the 90's, one of the reasons it lost support and withered away was precisely what we are seeing now. the more people get a clear sense that something that sounds good in the abstract, giving parents more say, too easily translates into banning particular books or limiting what kids in a whole school have access to, the less they like it. lisa: jennifer berkshire, thank you. jennifer: thank you for having me. ♪ amna: healthcare systems and hospitals across the country are grappling with a nationwide shortage of the asthma medication, albuterol. stephanie sy looks at who is affected and what's being done about it. stephanie: liquid alterol is commonly used in emergency departments as a quick relief

breathing treatment for several chronic lung diseases such as asthma, copd, covid-19, rsv and pneumonia. it's been on the fda's short supply list since october. and last mon, akorn pharmaceuticals, the primary u.s. manufacturer of liquid albuterol, filed for bankruptcy and closed operations. we spoke to two people who are already feeling the impact. angela: i'm angela folger. i am the director of pharmacy at nemours children's hospital in florida. this shortage has been significant, obviously working in a pediatric hospital, we use quite a bit of albuterol. we have quite a few asthma patients. samantha: i'm samaha eddins. i live in lincoln, nebrask i'm a mom of three and two are on venbts --vents. they were born at 24 weeks gestation via c-section. they get four treatments a day between the two of tm. so they get one in the morning and one at night before bed. it's an albuterol sulfate concentration and we just do it through like a nebulizer machine. but they have special

attachments that they can attach it to their ventilator circuit to make the ventilator push it into their lungs. angela: we have switched almost all of our patients to the more dilute product, which is still effective, still works well. but on the pharmacy side of that, it created some challenges for our patients that require a continuous albuterol treatment. so our most sick asthmatic patients that require that. samantha: last month they only gave me a month's supply. so between the time that i had used their last one to the time that they ordered the new one to get into the pharmacy, i had to dip into my personal stash to give them their meds. so just so that they can do that overlap between pure i don't have any. they get it twice a day and we go through it twice as fast as like a normal, typical family would. angela: we are seeing an increase in flu. we are still having some covid patients. we are seeing a significant

increase in rsv. all of those patients require albuterol. [8:08] i think i think we really need additional manufacturers to step up and start adding this to their portfolio so that we're not reliant on a single source for the medication that we need for our patients. amna: -- stephanie: the fda says they are working closely with manufacturers to address the shortage. dr. juanita mora is an allergist and immunologist in chicago and national spokesperson for the american lung association. thank you for joining us. as you just heard, albuterol is used commonly to treat very young children, because they can't use inhalers. are you concerned about how this shortage of liquid albuterol is affecting that age group in particular? dr. mora: very concerned. we are talking about 25 million asthmatics in the united states. you add long-haul covid and we just came out of a brutal

respiratory illness season with covid, rsv and flu. now we are headed into allergic asthma season. we are going to see a lot of kids and adults needing this lifesaving drug because it's used to open up the lungs and they cannot breathe good it's so important to be talking about today. stephanie: we heard that parent saying she is giving her kids at of her albuterol and experts are saying they're having to dilute albuterol. is that what you are advising patients to do? dr. mora: at this time, unfortunately because albuterol is being sent to hospitals and urgent care, clinics and parents at home or anyone who use liquid albuterol is not able to get it. so we are advising if they have

any to psibly do some dilutions. but it's not the best actual option. we want someone to really step up and help th this albuterol shortage especially as we are , heading into spring allergy season. tons of asthmatics are triggered by allergies at this time. we are going to end up using a lot of the actual reserve that we have for liquid albuterol and is is very concerning as we are already in shortage. stephanie: are there alternatives especially for the younger children who need to use liquid albuterol with a nebulizer? dr. mora: currently what we have is a different solution. the problem is the companies haven't produced them in mass quantities, and the cost. it's hard for actual insurance to cover it and for parents to be able to afford it. that's the problem we are

currently running into. stephanie: besides the very young and the elderly who are not able to use albuterol inhalers, it sounds like people that are particularly economically vulnerable are at risk. dr. mora: definitely. that is the population i'm concerned with especially because they were the hardest hit communities when it came to covid-19. stephanie: what do you see as the solution? dr. mora: i hope the fda will encourage pharmaceuticals to really pitch in. if covid-19 has taught us anything, is that we have to take care of each other. i'm hoping pharmaceuticals will step up to help with this albuterol shortage that is so important so that we don't have , to outsource to other countries for help to meet the needs of all these asthmatics

, copd-er and every child and adult with a respiratory illness who currently needs this medication as a life-saving treatment. stephanie: from what i understand, there is only one u.s. manufacturer of albuterol right now in operation for a very common drug. dr. juanita mora, thanks for joininthe newshour. dr. mora: it is my pleasure. thank you for having me. people can learn more at lung.org. ♪ amna: to delve further into the latest legal woes for president trump, and the future of tiktok in the u.s., we turn to brooks and capehart.

welcome to you both, it's good to see you. jonathan, i want to pick up where leases report left off, this whole issue of parental rights. it has come to mean so much and i want to start with some definitions. let's talk about the debate and where it is right now and what that phrase -- parental rights -- means to you, how you look at this issue. jonathan: when i hear parental rights, i keep thinking about what happened to the pta? parent teacher association. why all of a sudden is this an issue? i think it's an issue given who they are targeting because they need a foil. the far right needs a foil. that's not to say parents don't have concerns about what their kids are learning in classrooms. it just seems like from governor ron desantis in florida to governor huckabee in arkansas to the republican-led house of representatives, it seems like they have a problem specifically with trans kids. what i have a problem with is that the party of life, the party of respect for family and

individual freedom has no problem putting a target on the backs of trans kids and their families. when i hear parental rights, i think parental rights for whom? amna: david? david: there's a lot of crazy stuff going on in schools, book banning and stuff like that, not teaching black history. i want to bracket that aside and say that is outrageous. nonetheless, there is a core problem here. during covid, a lot of parents got a look at what their kids were doing because the classroom turned into the living room and they didn't like a lot of what they saw. public school enrollment is down by $1.4 million. 60 odd percent of parents say they want more control over the kids learning. it used to be democrats had a solid advantage in who do you trust in schools. that advantage is gone. there has been a seismic shift. a lot of parents were disillusioned. most are fine with school, most hate it when politics gets put in the school, but there is a

sense there is something they want more control over. that's the legit part of this. i think the core problem here in reference to this bill is parents and teachers have to be in cooperation and there has to be trust. i understand the cost, but if a school is keeping important things about kids secret from the parents, that's going to destroy trust. you're going to get the reaction we have seen. amna: can i get to the other issues you want to bracket out? they are bracketed in. they are under the umbrella of this issue. david: you have to go parent by parent, case by case. there is a lot of clearly wedge issue stuff going on here, but also a lot of parents who legitimately think the values of my school are different from my values, i just want some representation here. or i want some say in how my kids are taught. and they don't feel they are getting that. it's a bunch of different issues all at once. amna: when you take a broader look, jonathan, this is all happening against the backdrop

of a number of republican state legislatures nationwide proposing and pushing through bills that do center on transgender youth. this is a map from the human rights cpaign. they now estimate of all the transgender kids across the country aged 13 to 17, more than half of them now live in a state where they have either already lost access to or could lose access to gender affirming care. it's over 50% now. jonathan, i want to turn to you on this because that's a striking number first of all when you think of thsheer volume of children who are impacted by that. but i'm wondering why you think this particular issue resonates so deeply right now. jonathan: because it makes people feel uncomfortable. let's just be perfectly frank about it. it makes people uncomfortable. but just because you are uncomfortable doesn't mean that you then target what makes you uncomfortable. and by target, you are targeting

kids, the families of those kids , making it impossible for them to get health care in their own home state, making it almost impossible for them to go out of state. criminalizing in some cases going out of state to get care. all these kids and their families want are for these trans kids to be able to go to school like everyone else, learn like everyone else and be left alone like everyone else. if possible. and to be able to learn in a classroom environment where there is neither a target on their back or they are not being denied the full curriculum that they are supposed to be taught. the problem i have with what's been happening in the states is that the language is so vague. and that report the person said it doesn't specify names of books and things. no it leaves it up to the , discretion of whoever the

person is complaining. so i think what needs to happen is that people need to, those really concerned parents not only do they need to keep rising up, they need allies to rise up with them to add to their numbers because there are more people who care about those children and care about their education than the rabble rousing parents who are putting the targets on their backs. david: it's insane that we are having the education debate we are having right now. if you look at new york city schools, 41% of kids were chronically truant. across american schools over the last few years, we spent 20 years trying to lift scores. all of those gains were erased in the last year or two. that is going to alter the lives, the gdp of this country for decades. we are in the middle of an education -- i don't want to say catastrophe, but a real set back in the way our kids are doing.

we are talking about this transgender stuff. like, what? amna: that is where republicans are choosing to focus. david: exactly. i sometimes think this issue didn't surprise republicans. when youngkin ran for governor, he didn't think he would run on schools, that so many parents were coming to him he ended up winning onchools. it is still insane that this is what we are talking about if we are going to be talking about schools. amna: and clearly for many weeks and months to come. i want to turn to news out of the manhattan district attorney's office. we know they've been probing money payments from president trump. just today, the new york district attorney has been probing the hush money payment made to a woman who said she was having an affair with former president trump just today. he received a death threat in the mail to his office that contained a white powder. the da's office had a statement issued that it was not dangerous.

it does come on the heels of mr. trump and republicans ramping up attacks on alvin bragg. we do not know if this letter and those attacks in any way are connected, but it is a really sturbing development. jonathan: it is a disturbing development. we don't know that there is a direct connection. but come on, let's face it -- at 1:08 this morning, the former president of the united states sent out a raging social media post filled with threats of violence and invective against the manhattan da. one of many that he has done all week. we can't draw a direct line between them, but you can't separate them. what the former president is doing is outrageous. the fact that republicans want -- will not roundly criticize him for doing so and condemning what he's doing and standing up for the rule of law is outrageous. and i think we all need to take donald trump's statements about the manhattan da and other da's

who are investigating him seriously. he called for action on january 6 and we saw what happened. we cannot afford to let that happen again. amna: that truth social post had mr. trump saying there could be potential death and destruction if he was indicted on these charges. today house minority leader hakeem jeffries says he is worried that mr. trump is going to get someone killed. are you worried about that? david: absolutely. i thought i was beyond the ability to be shocked by donald trump, but when i woke up and read about, -- read that, the only word that came to mind was barbaric. it just is shocking. it should also be said that there is reason he's doing it. which is that two or three weeks ago he had a 10 point advantage on ron desantis and now if you look at the average of the polls, it's up to 25 points. some of that is desantis going

down, but trump is going up. this whole indictment talk is helping trump politically. amna: i want to ask you as well about the tiktok hearing on capitol hill.there has been a cd effort. there were a number of hearings on the house side. that same day focused on china. how did you look at those? david: we are in the middle of a cold war with china. it has started. it has happened over two administrations. especially with the biden administration. it is now official u.s. policy to ban the chips and the technology used to make the chips that could go into a phone, a car, a toaster or a missile or a drone or ai technology. we are now really trying to crack down on not the chinese military but the chinese economy because there is really no difference between these things. that is a very stark thing. so if you are wondering where we in a cold war?

we are now behaving like we are against china and i think we are with the chinese and it tends to hit technology most. tiktok, g5, chips, green energy, that's the battlefield in this cold war. who controls the technology. amna: we have about 30 seconds, do you see it the same way? a cold war with china? jonathan: when david puts it like that, yes. how can i argue? also because of what we have seen, what china has done on the diplomatic front the last few weeks. the deal that china brokered with saudi arabia and iran, huge deal. i'm old enough to remember when the united states used to seek deals like that. now it's the chinese. amna: always good to see you both. thank you so much. jonathan: thank you. ♪ amna: this week marks 20 years

since the u.s. invasion of iraq and many are still piecing together what happened in those days and the years that followed. our senr digital editor spoke about ruptured domesticity, a project that collects the memories and artifacts of iraqis during the war and how they held onto the concept of home. >> you headed up a multi-part project, part of it is archiving these these memories of the war for people, iraqis who were living inside and outside the country during that time. can you talk to us a little bit about why you decided to pursue this project and and what came of it? sana: something that i really wanted to understand is what was happening across the country when baghdad was getting bombarded during the 2003 invasion.

i had no idea we were in baghdad, but i did not know what was going on in mosul, what was going on in busan or what was going on elsew to the archive idea came because i wanted it to be the collective voice of the iraq is. >> war is traumatizing for everyone involved for you end up with generational trauma. i wonder how that enduring trauma has impacted the way that iraqis interact with the country and their memory and their understanding of what it means to be iraq he. >> from the north and the south of iraq, they kept coming back to this thing, we document did things that happened at that time. during the 2003 invasion phones and cameras were not readily

available for people. there was this thing of trauma that lingers and is carried with you. it resurfaces in very different it resurfaces in ptsd across the world happening with people engaged in the wars in iraq and elsewhere. in the collective creative outlet of that where you see a burst of cultural belonging and tendency to want to make change happen. >> what does it mean to you to be iraq he? >> i remember when i first came out of iraq.

i a have it in the connection from the beautiful food that we have from the beautiful language that is spoken with the gut and language. to the rack humor that can emerge in your face in the center of all of that. it is a tapestry. and this is always going to be in the making and you will never have a form to its making. i love that. there is a yearning for a home that is always going to be

there and you will never fade for me. >> that was just part of jasmine's conversation. you can watch the full version and see more from the project online at pbs.org for/newshour. raising awareness about art and consumerism at the same time. it is part of the arts and culture series, canvas. >> down a quiet country road near spencer ville, indiana, you will see a farm that is not like any other in the area. a different kind of product is cultivated here, arch. the colorful home and studio is known as the art form.

the married couple that grew up in nearby fort wayne turn their farm into an artistic oasis where they display their work. locks, sculptures, jewelry and more made out of found objects they started collecting 30 years ago. >> we love going to the junk shops and finding stuff. one time, we have to stop buying all this cool stuff for we have to start doing something with it all. then we started manipulating it. >> of paul who has then began making functional pieces like lamps that they started selling in art shows in the 1990s. the part-time hobby became a full-time job. >> i was working on this pendant i was starting year. >> paul and lisa create new life from old objects were anything can become art. >> tell me about a piece like this.

this is a work in progress? >> if i'm at the thrift store and i see this sitting on the shelf, oh yeah, that is a skirt. we have the old coffee tins and stuff. look out perfectly that if it's over. things have to fit where they get wobbly. hopefully someone will handed down to their kids. >> preventing things from being thrown away. that is part of paul and lisa's work. >> i hate to see the amount of poor quality useless stuff that gets peddled to people. it has a short shelf life and then is thrown away. maybe instead of going to target, then you can buy a clock that i made out of recycled items. >> paul and lisa take their clocks and other work to art

fairs around the country. then artists are selected through the competitive application process. art shows provide a significant portion of their sales. since the pandemic they have been focusing on commissions like a cello and pop up on the farm. >> is a difficult to make a living like this? >> you are not interested in a steady paycheck, you never know. people ask us about that sometimes. do you make a living at this? we make a life. it is the whole package. self-employed. we steer the show. >> our whole life and our garden and how we live, it is all the same thing. the arch is not separated from the way that we live.

>> during the recent visit they brought me on a tour of their property including the hundred 60-year-old barn. >> she runs good, her name is agnes. >> when people roll into the show, they know that we are there. i played cheap beer whenever my friends, and asked me for a beer. >> many of the artists that paul and lisa have met over the years have become friends whose art is displayed along with their own throughout the restored 1860s farmhouse. >> this is from our friend ed who is doing the mugs from this morning. this is from an artist from indianapolis. it is me and paul. the unforeseen glory of art

farming. we did not know that she was doing this. i love this piece. it is so fun. >> they are hosting school groups and are classes that focus on reuse materials. >> i like that they use found objects and they make them live again. >> is sandy bieber is a regular on the art form and stopped by to check out some of lisa's -- >> this is a recycled license plate. >> this is what i like about lisa's artwork. i enjoy that. i want something that means something to me. her artwork does. >> paul and lisa are spending long hours in the workshops these days creating more art and gearing up for a busy

spring and summer on the farm. for the pbs news hour ryan kath wise on the cbs news hour. >> the difference between making a living and making a life. >> for more analysis on president trump's mounting legal challenges. sophia look at the barriers stopping people from getting basic medical care. that is the newshour for tonight. on behalf of the entire newshour team, thank you for joining us, have a good weekend. major funding for the pbs news hour has been provided by -- ♪

>> moving our economy for 160 years. the engine that connects us. institutions, and friends of "the newshour," including kathy and paul anderson and camilla and george smith. >> friends of the newshour including pat cassie and paul anderson. the walton family foundation. working solutions to protect water during climate change so that people in nature can thrive together. the william and florida hewitt foundation. advancing ideas and supporting institutions for a better world. hewitt.org. with the ongoing support of these individuals and institutions. and friends of "the newshour." ♪

and friends of the newshour. roe by the corporation for publicroe broadcasting and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. this program was made possible by the corporation of public broadcasting and from viewers like you. thank you. this is pbs news hour west. from our viewer out the walters school of journalism. >> you are watching pbs.

we've been using 3-d modeling for complex heart conditions. we have the patients come in for high resolution imaging. for we end up with is something that looks like this. we decided to not do the repair. without a 3-d model. we do not have that kind of detail to figure it out. we can look and advance and figure out the connections. we have imaging to the fullest potential in you are getting the best information possible to get the best outcomes coming out of the o.r. i am fortunate that i am here because there are few places that have the technology this far. it is very exciting. >> redefined possible.

kqed things are community members for their support. technological advance that rivals the moon landing. >> that is one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind. >> why did the doctor not believe me? did i do something wrong? >> do we have to experience the same biases as our parents and grandparents? what if we could get those

nickel studies and what if we have to the bigger questions? people of color do not receive equal access to healthcare. we are determined to change this. tonight on kqed newsroom, we sit down with oakland's new mayor, who this week announced a plan to build hundreds of units of affordable housing. we will discuss how the mayor is discussing the current surgeon property crime. how much stood the new restaurant makers received? we visit the legion of honor to look at the landsc