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. i'm margaret brennan and this week on "face the nation" -- campus chaos continues from coast to coast. plus, south dakota republican governor kristi noem kicks off her book tour today and we've got the first interview. campus protests tied to the war between israel and hamas spilled into the weekend. with no breakthrough yet in middle east negotiations for a short-term cease-fire and hostage release, the political
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pressure on president biden builds, and he tries to calm the domestic furor. >> dissent is central to democracy but must never lead to disorder. there's the right to protest but not the right to cause chaos. >> we'll talk with two key democrats as those protests continue. pennsylvania john fetterman and ro khanna. to become former president trump's running mate helped or hurt by some revelations she makes about herself in her new book. she's back from a republican gathering with trump in palm beach. our conversation with jordan's queen rania. she's of palestinian descent and shares her views about the war in gaza and her hopes for peace in the region. it's all just ahead on "face the nation." ♪
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good morning. welcome to "face the nation." we begin this morning with the republican governor of the state of south dakota, kristi noem. her upcoming memoir "no going back" is out this tuesday and joins us from watertown, south dakota. welcome back to "face the nation." >> thank you, margaret. thank you for inviting me to be on with you today. >> governor, i have your book right here, the very first blush in it is an endorsement from donald trump. he says, this book, it's a winner. lays out a fantastic plan to make america great again. i know you're back from a gathering with mr. trump and other republicans in florida. did he mention any of the response to your book at all? >> oh, he certainly knows about the book, and i appreciate his endorsement of it. this is really a book that talks
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about how we're not going back. no going back to the days before donald trump. donald trump broke politics, and i think that's a good thing. we're not going back to the days of the mitt romney or the bushes, that there's a new way to do and talk to the american people, and they appreciate it. it's an honest, genuine conversation about what these citizens can do to take back their government and have more input. this book is really a how-to guide for how to make your voice heard and for people in this country, what they can do to really make sure they are getting genuine elected officials that really want to give them more freedom and liberty. >> so you write about lessons learned in leadership, and you bring up some specific incidents i want to ask you about. you talk about meeting some world leaders and one specific one, quote, i remember when i met with north korean dictator kim jong yun. i'm sure he underestimated me having no clue about my experience staring down little
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tyrants. i'd been a children's pastor after all. did you meet kim jong-un? >> you know, as soon as this was brought to my attention, i certainly made some changes and looked at this passage and i've met with many, many world leaders. i've traveled around the world. as soon as it was brought to my attention we went forward and have made some edits, so i'm glad this book is being released in a couple of days and that those edits will be in place and people will have the updated version. >> you did not meet with kim jong-un, that's what you're saying? >> i've met with many, many world leaders and traveled around the world. i think i've talked extensively in this book about my time serving in congress, my time as governor, before governor, some of the travels that i've had. i'm not going to talk about my specific meetings with world leaders. i'm just not going to do that. this anecdote shouldn't have been in the book and as soon as it was brought to my attention i
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made sure that was adjusted. the book is not released until tuesday. we're doing all that we can to make sure that those changes are made, and i'm going to continue to focus on what this book is and the blueprint that it lays out for the american citizen on all of the things in the background and stories of my life, but also, what i think that needs to be identified in politics and what's broken today. i talk about how broken the money game is. how broken it is that we've got consultants that are getting rich off of elected officials. how fake some elected politicians are. >> sure. >> every single person in this country wants someone in elected office that's a human being, that doesn't say they're perfect. i take responsibility for that being in the book, and as soon as it was brought to my attention i asked for it to be changed. i'm glad the release date is in a couple days and we're excited to talk to america about my new book "no going back". >> you talk about your time in the armed services committee from 2013 to 2015. in that period of time, the leader of south korea was a
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female president. i'm wondering, who is it that you confused kim jong-un with? >> i think you need to remember, margaret, and everybody needs to remember, i've worked on policy for over 30 years. my time in serving and making policies in this country has been extensive and covered decades. >> you never went to north korea. >> i talk about the fact that -- yes, i have. i've been there. >> you went to north korea? >> i went to the dmz. there are details in this book that talk about going to the dmz and specifics i'm willing to share. there's some specifics i'm not willing to share with you. i've traveled the world and visited with world leaders and some of that is referenced in the book and this anecdote is something when brought to my attention, we made some changes and when the book is released we'll do all that we can to see that that is reflected. >> okay. well, i'm asking about that specifically because you made the point to bring him up twice,
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and that he was a little tyrant. >> yeah, but -- >> i do. south korea is a treaty ally. north korea is a nuclear armed adversary. that's a pretty -- >> hello? >> big thing to confuse. i know you read this -- >> i'm sorry. >> before it was published because you released video of your recording of the audio book. you didn't catch these errors when you were recording it? >> margaret, as soon as it was brought to my attention i took action to make sure that it was reflected. this is what is so discouraging about politics and the media today is that we have the white house that just regioncently came out and confirmed that president joe biden has misspoken and made mistakes and lied over close to 150 times, just this year, and you have done nothing to question him on any of that and you're talking about a book that hasn't been released yet, corrected before it's been released and you haven't said one thing about joe
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biden saying he was in prison with nelson mandela, that he started the civil rights movement, that he -- >> if i had an interview with joe biden, who i've asked for multiple times, i will ask him about his record, but i'm asking you about your book. >> i'm asking -- >> here which we have. >> i'm just asking for why -- why am i being treated differently than any other person you've interviewed. i looked at your last several weeks of your interview, you don't -- >> i'm quoting you. >> you don't interrupt other people. you let them talk. thank you for inviting know have a conversation about this book. this book is extremely important to the people of this be country. it is important because it's a how to guide of what they can do to have input into their government, how we need breakers and builders in this world, and i'm taking responsibility for the change that we've made. >> okay. and for the mistake in the back. >> i've told you that. no, it's not -- what i've said -- >> you're not taking m responsibility for the mistake in in the book?
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>> i'm saying this book is very, very good and i've met with many world leaders and world leaders i've plett with in this book, there are many that i met with that are not in this book. this is an anecdote that i asked to have removed because i think it's appropriate at this point in time. i'm not going to talk to you about those personal meetings i've had with world leaders. >> okay. >> i'm not going to have that conversation because i think it's important. >> you do mention benjamin netanyahu as well among world leaders. in an interview with "time" magazine this week, former president donald trump was asked about israel and hamas, and he said, quote, bibi netanyahu rightfully has been criticized for what took place on october 7th. do you agree with mr. trump? >> i think that bibi netanyahu is a strong leader who is leading israel through extremely difficult times. october 7th was horrific and the crimes that hamas committed against the jewish people were absolutely awful, and that the united states of america should
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stand strong with our allies in the middle east. i'm proud to know the jewish people and their leaders over many, many years, and i think that what hamas is doing and the atrocities that were committed were horrific and we would never stand for the anti-semitism going on in the united states of america. what's happening on our college campuses is devastating and should be shut down immediately. i'm disappointed president biden didn't take action immediately to stop these crimes against the jewish people that have happened on our own college campuses here in the united states of america. should have never been allowed and should be stopped today. >> you don't agree with mr. trump's statement there. i want to ask you, again, about the book. i know you know this question is coming. because there's been such an enormous backlash about your revelation that you shot and killed a wire hair pointer named cricket who was 14 months old. you say in the book she came
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from another family, you had been training her to hunt, too excited, ruined the hunt and attacked and killed some chickens. i wonder if you have regrets about sharing this story? > you know, margaret, this book is filled with vulnerable painful moments in my life, filled with times where i've made very difficult decisions. the reason that this story is in the book because people need to understand who i am and some of those difficult decisions. this was a dangerous animal killing livestock and attacking people. we had many kids running around and people and interaction with the public, and i made a difficult choice. you're a mother too and you have little kiddos. would you make a choice between your children or a dangerous animal? i would ask everybody in the country to put themselves in that situation because that's what i faced. i talk about it because what i'm tired of in this country is politicians who pretend to be something they're not. that they aren't willing to have
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the hard conversations and look at the past and the tough decisions that they've made. i'm -- what i talk about in the book extensively when people are able to get it on tuesday is to see the whole story and the truth, not the spin that media has put on this story. the media has put some or removed most of the facts and what the reason this is in there is because i want people to know that i don't ask anybody else to take on my responsibilities. i understood my responsibility and as a mom, i made a choice between protecting my children and protecting them from a dangerous animal that was killing livestock and attacking people. >> well, i -- >> and the decision that i made -- >> i described i think accurately how you wrote it up in the book. you didn't say the dog attacked people. you said it tried to bite you. and i just wonder why you concluded that a young dog was untrainable and not just take it to a shelter? >> this dog was a -- this dog was a working dog and had come from a family that had issues with this dog and i had put
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months and months of training into this dog. this dog had gone to other trainers as well. so all of that is the facts of the story, and all of that shows that when you put someone in a position where they have to make a decision and they want to protect their family and protect children and other people from getting attacked from an animal that has attacked others and killed livestock that's the choice made over 20 years ago and that i didn't ask somebody else to take that responsibility for me, that i had to make that decision myself. >> you put it in a part of a chapter called "bad day to be a goat." then after you shot the dog you, quote, realized another unpleasant job needed to be done, walking back up to the yard i spotted our belly goat. he smelled and chased kids and you took him to the gravel pit and shot him twice. how do you justify that. i'm asking you this, it seems like you're celebrating the killing of the animals? >> not at all. this has been a story that my
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political opponents have tried to use against me for years. it's well known in south dakotap, and it has been to other people and i want the truth to be out there and to understand, that these animals were attacking my children, that we live on a farm and ranch and that tough decisions are made many times and it is to protect people. i'll tell you, the extremism of other people and how they have attacked me politically, i understand they're doing the pso donald trump every day. >> yeah. >> every day. the constant attacks and coming after me. during covid, i was attacked night after night for months after months for the decisions that i made. in fact, you and many other journalists attacked me every single day on tv for months for the decisions that i made in south dakota for my people to protect their freems and liberties. >> i think we had a fair interview. >> i'm used to being attacked -- >> at that time and i thank idea you for answering questions on
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it. on this point because you have been rumored to be a potential vice presidential candidate, as you know, and former house speaker newt gingrich said killing the dog and writing about it ended any possibility of her being picked as vp. you talk multiple times about it. at the end of the book you say, the very first thing you would do if you got to the white house that was different from joe biden, is you would make sure joe biden's dog was nowhere on the grounds. commander say hello to cricket. are you doing this to try to look tough? do you still think that you have a shot at being a vp? >> well number one, joe biden's dog has attacked 24 secret service people, so how many people is enough people to be attacked and dangerously hurt before you make a decision on a dog and -- >> he's not living at the white house anymore that that's the question that president should be held accountable to. >> you're saying he should be shot? >> what is -- what is the number? i would say about republicans' criticizing me, these are the
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same republicans that criticized me during covid. they've criticized me when i made other decisions in south dakota to protect my state. my state today is extremely happy and thriving. we're doing well. we've got thousands of people moving to our state because they love the opportunities that are here and the businesses that have come and how we've gotten to be a state that has one of the lowest unemployment rates in the nation. everybody has an opportunity for higher wages. we've got revenues and reserves. we've paid off our debt. aaa credit rating, fully funded pension system into you're not going to retract the book, ma'am? >> this book is a powerful book, it's an honest book. it's an honest book about blueprint for americ about what citizens can do to take their country back. >> okay. >> i'm so proud of this book and what it will bring to people. i hope that they will buy it. they'll find a lot of truthful stories and we talk a lot about what you can use as an example from donald trump on how he has
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continued to be a real person, been genuine and been honest to people and that what bothers me the most about politicians is when they're -- >> if you had to retract parts of it -- >> i'm not retracting anything. >> all right. all right. governor -- >> absolutely. this book -- >> thank you for taking the questions and joining us today. "face the nation" will be back in a minute. stay with us. life, diabetes, there's no slowing down. each day is a unique blend of people to see and things to do. that's why you choose glucerna to help manage blood sugar response.
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at the art institute of chicago a new encampment lasted only hours on saturday. police moved in. they made at least 68 arrests. and a new disruption at the university of michigan's commencement. dozens of protesters chanted and waved palestinian flags, but the event went on. for many schools, this month's new challenge, graduation. doing it well in the face of all this protest. here in l.a., usc's plan, canceling its main commencement exercise this friday. student journalist live keller has covered it all here. the protests, police raids, ongoing show of force. >> my view is the administration should have handled this differently. i think the calling in of lapd was excessive. >> reporter: the administrator's message to protesters, enough. at ucla last week, counter protesters started brawling with people inside the encampment. in the week, police moved in,
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arresting more than 200 people. in a couple hours at columbia, the nypd retook a campus building seized by demonstrators. one officer accidentally fired his gun, no one was hit. more than 100 people arrested. several schools like vassar and brown negotiated with demonstrators. some cases administrators agreed to talk about protesters' demands to divest from funding, investments and partnerships with the state of israel. the protesters went back to their dorms. at roughly 80 schools, unrest still fractures campus with clashing claims of free speech and hate speech. >> that was our mark strassmann. we turn now to pennsylvania's senator john fetterman who joins us from orlando, florida, this morning where he spent the weekend campaigning be on behalf of president biden's re-election. welcome to the show, senator. >> hi. >> good to be here.
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>> great to have you here. you're cracking up. do you want to tell us what you're responding to there? >> oh. that interview that was magnificent. >> okay. >> well, let me ask you about democrats and your own party. i know you've been spending a lot of time on that this past weekend. you've been outspoken about the protesters we were just talking about with our reporter there. the director of national intelligence testified this week that there is no u.s. intelligence that hamas is influencing the protests in the u.s. or directing it in any way. but i know you hav said while it's a great american value to protest, i don't believe living in a pup tent for hamas is really helpful. do you consider the flying of the palestinian flag to be anti-semitic or have you actually seen the hamas flag in some of these protests?
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>> no. i don't think that, but i will say that these kind of protests haven't been helpful, and ironically, they are actually working against peace in middle east as well. it's also very strange to me that now they're not actually protesting for a cease-fire now, and there's been a very valid cease-fire that's been on the table now and hamas has been -- refused to take that on. i don't know why we're not -- if we're going to protest why aren't we protesting that, demanding hamas to take that kind of a cease-fire. then that would end all of the trauma and chaotic going on there in gaza. >> well, many of these young protesters are protesting against president biden's israel policy, israel being a recipient of u.s. taxpayer dollars and u.s. provided weapons, hamas is not. hamas is a designated terror group.
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do you have any problem with the attempt to influence the president's policy through protest? >> well, like i said, i don't -- i'll never support any kind of conditions on israel during this, and again, i am going to continue to center hamas, responsible for all of that again. and now if you're going to protest on these campuses or they're going all across america as well too, i really want to -- can't forget that the situation right now could end right now, if hamas just surrendered and just sent all of those hostages home again. that's also the thing i've been frustrated too, now that those hostages should be really in front of the conversations about the situation in gaza, sending them home would really, you know, end again all of this immediately. >> well, understood, but these protesters, are you saying by protesting the president's
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policy you just see any opposition to the president's policy as pro hamas or is it something specific that you have an issue with? >> i mean it's perfectly normal if you don't agree with the president on this issue or many other issues, but it's very strange that when we have this incredible, important election in front of us, six months to go, and it's really two stark choices. you have joe biden an outstanding president, and then you have donald trump who is actually now in a trial talking about bribin a former adult film star, and it's really kind of a stark contrast here. and if you're willing to walk away from joe biden, it's -- you're actually supporting trump. >> i need to talk to you about election on the other side of this break. please stay with us, senator. we'll be back. secret whole body deodorant... everywhere. 4 out of 5 gynecologists would recommend whole body deodorant, which gives you 72 hour odor protection
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