>> the whole engine. two containers with spiders in them. some lotion or think thong. it was an either/or situation. not sure if i'm very dry or very naked. >> well. >> apparently, yeah, not sure how that one happened. some lotion or my thong. >> you said the items we can air. >> i am not sure we can air that. >> and those are the physical items. also not listed, my pride, my sobriety. >> my dignity. >> exactly. >> i don't know. i really was -- i wish they would release the full story behind that one. >> house speaker mike johnson is facing new threats to his job from members of his own party for even considering -- yes, considering -- a vote on sending u.s. aid to ukraine. >> congressman thomas massie now joining congresswoman marjorie taylor greene in an effort to try to oust speaker johnson from this position. if just one more republican

joins this effort, he could lose this job. ♪ ♪ >> announcer: it's "the late show with stephen colbert"! tonight... mock trial! first, stephen welcomes john lithgow! and doris kearns goodwin! featuring louis cato and "the late show" band.

and now, live on tape from the ed sullivan theater in new york city, it's stephen colbert! ♪ ♪ [cheers and applause] >> stephen: there you go. have a seat, everybody. thank you very much. hello. hello. hello, everybody. hello out there. welcome to "the late show." i'm your host, stephen colbert. ladies and gentlemen, i come to you on an historic day. have yourselves bronzed and engraved. because today, the senate took up two articles of impeachment against homeland security secretary and man paralyzed by all the toppings at sweetgreen, alejandro mayorkas. house republicans never identified a specific high crime

or misdemeanor for the impeachment which is usually kind of a thing. but still, historic. it's only the second time in america that a cabinet member has been impeached. the first was secretary of war william bellknap back in 1876, which congress accused of "prostituting his high office to his lust for private gain." ♪ did you ever know that you're my hero ♪ [cheers and applause] earlier this week, house managers had the grim task of walking the articles of impeachment from the house to the senate. because the founding fathers believed that such official acts should always be done in person while getting your steps in. by the constitution, the senate now has to set aside all

legislative business, lay out the rules, and hold a trial. this is going to be a knockdown drag-out fight, and i am here for it tonight. we will be dedicating our entire show to -- i'm sorry. what's happening? >> the senate has just voted to end the impeachment trial of department of homeland security secretary alejandro mayorkas. >> stephen: that was quick. so, uh, what do you guys want to talk about? i thought we were going to do the whole show... i'll tell you what, this is more bad news for republican speaker of the house mike johnson, seen here in his profile pic on hammeryourownpenis.com. johnson needed this win because momentum is building to oust johnson from his house speakership. and they just got rid of the last guy six months ago. republican speaker of the house has joined the list of least secure jobs just below number two leader of isis,

world's oldest man, and rupert murdoch fiancee. [applause] i love her. she's a nurse. or something. i didn't ask. but johnson's not going down without a fight. he went on fox business over the weekend to remind republicans that he has the backing of the party's dear leader. >> i spent hours with the president on friday. he's 100% with me. >> stephen: well, that settles it. trump is 100% with him. isn't that right, sir? >> are you going to protect speaker johnson? >> well, we'll see what happens with that. [laughter] >> stephen: that's a dose of that classic trump loyalty. he's got your back so he can push you under a bus. just like his wedding vows. "i take thee, melania, to be my lawful wedded next wife. for better or, well, we'll see

what happens after that." today is a day off for donald trump's hush money trial, which is good. i'm sure he needs time to rest after all that napping. yesterday was a surprisingly productive court session, because they picked seven jurors. i was not one of them. and while their identities will be kept secret, we've learned a little about them, like juror number four who said of the ex-president, "i find him fascinating and mysterious." "like, when he says he wants to shoot protestors and jail his opponents, what does he mean? i can fix him." there's also juror number two, who seemed surprised to find herself in this situation, telling the court: "i didn't even know i was walking into this." okay, but at some point there must've been clues. "uh, honey? for some reason, this soul cycle has a bailiff." of course, most of the potential jurors were dismissed, including

one who posted a video to social media of an ai-version of trump saying "i'm dumb as [bleep]." damn, i didn't know ai was coming for my job. yesterday, as soon as he was released from the proceedings, trump went right from court to campaign at a bodega. now, for my viewers who don't live in new york, "bodega" is spanish for "convenience store where you can get coffee, cigarettes, spicy chips they only sell in uruguay, dusty cans of chef boyardee, ginseng vitality juice that makes your hair feel like it's screaming, and for some reason, one electric lawnmower up on a high shelf." all run by a guy who exclusively calls you "big boss." specifically, trump chose to stop by sanaa convenient store because it had been the site of a violent attack that resulted in public criticism for the

district attorney now prosecuting him. or he was just there buying scratchers. "come on. come on. daddy owes 454 million to the state of new york. here we go. balloon. balloon. oh, horseshoe. i was robbed! stop the scratch!" here's what trump said when he got to the store. >> this is a very exciting time for me because the bodegas, the association invited me. >> stephen: yes, in new york, there is a bodega association. they share an office with the international brotherhood of guys selling bootleg dvds on a blanket in chinatown. [applause] i got starship troopers there. first half still plays. this morning, with his short break from court, trump used truth social to stay laser focused on the issues that

voters care most about. "stupid jimmy kimmel, who still hasn't recovered from his horrendous performance and big ratings drop as host of the academy awards, especially when he showed he suffered from tds, commonly known as trump derangement syndrome, to the entire world by reading on air my truth about how bad a job he was doing that night." that's right. in the middle of a presidential campaign and countless federal indictments, he's obsessed with the academy awards from five weeks ago. i look forward to his new campaign slogan. trump 2024: they gave it to green book? also, you keep my friend jimmy kimmel's name out of your weird little wet mouth, okay? jimmy kimmel! [cheering] i'm mad. jimmy kimmel is my podcast brother from strike force five, and i have vowed --

i have vowed to defend him until my death! or until the next ad for mint mobile. and for the record, sir, jimmy did an incredible job as host. oscar viewership was up 4%! that's right. this year, 4 more people watched! as long as we're talking awards, i am proud to present one right now. in the category of outstanding achievement in syphilitic ramble in a social media post, the winner is... whale! you want to see? closeup? think that'll work? while trump is facing jurors, biden is getting praise from the fashion police. you see, "the new york times" recently published an article titled, "the biden guide to dressing younger."

biden's youthful style relies on solid color ties with four-in-hand or half-windsor knots and shirts with a heightened collar to minimize wattles and create a tidy frame for his face. that's not all. when biden really wants to shave a few years off, he employs the sartorial tactic known as big wowwy-pop. "we gotta suppowt ukwaine." of course, biden isn't the first older politician who's tried to dress younger. we all remember senator chuck grassley's ill-fated fubu phase. design experts say all these tactics show that biden recognizes the difference between getting old and looking old. sure. it's all optics, like if you want to look tall, you stand next to someone shorter. that's why biden has hired new campaign manager, roger t. cryptkeeper. that was the fashion article complementary of biden. but no slow news day puff piece

goes brutally unpunished, because last night, we heard from trump advisor and evil banker in a kid's movie who just foreclosed on the skate park, stephen miller. miller went on "hannity" and yelled this. >> the most stylish president and first lady in our lifetimes are donald trump and melania trump. donald trump's a style icon! he changed american fashion. >> stephen: it's true! trump is a style icon whose barrier-breaking fashion choices include tie stolen from party clown, we got a great show for you tonight! my guests are john lithgow and pulitzer prize winning historian doris kearns goodwin. but when we come back, "meanwhile"! join us, won't you? ♪ ♪ >> announcer: "the late show with stephen colbert" sponsored by red lobster.

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we have two giants this evening, ladies and gentlemen. two of my favorite people to talk to. the one, the only mr. john lithgow will be out here just a moment. one of the greatest living actors out there. truly an american traitor, historian wonderful friend of the show, doris kearns goodwin will be out here in just a moment. beautiful new book about her life with her husband. folks, this is exciting. summer's around the corner and so is the democratic national convention in chicago illinois. it should be a fun time. historically all the democratic conventions in chicago have gone super smooth. and guess who's going be there this year. me! because "the late show" is doing shows from chicago for the entire democratic convention! for one week. look at that. sweet home. for one week, "the late show" will be broadcasting from

the 130 year-old auditorium theater. it is absolutely gorgeous and so creatively-named. the auditorium theater is right next to the cafeteria restaurant and the historic rooms hotel. i lived in chicago for 11 years. and it holds a special place in my heart, and not just because of all the polish sausage still lodged in my aorta. chicago is where i cut my comedy teeth performing at the second city, and it's also where this south carolina boy got an education in winter. did you know that tears can freeze? i didn't know that before i lived there. you gotta keep blinkin'! so get ready, chicago, because this summer, it's the return of "daaaaa cole-bear"! daa bears. folks, if you watch the show,

you know i spend most of my time in the news kitchen, sourcing the day's freshest story shrimp to make a fine topical broth while sauteeing onions and garlic with ahi panca and amarillo, then carefully simmering it all with potatoes and evaporated milk to present to you the rich yet delicate peruvian chupe de camarones chowder that is my nightly monologue. but sometimes, just sometimes, folks, while fleeing the taiwanese panda smugglers i double-crossed, i scrape the bugs off my stolen tuk-tuk's windshield into a discarded carburetor cap with some gatorade, sawdust, and packing peanuts to slurp the fugitive road swill of news that is my segment... >> "meanwhile"! [cheers and applause] >> stephen: it's a steady hand at the wheel. steady hand at the tiller. meanwhile, in local news, health officials warn that leptospirosis, transmitted by rat urine, is on the rise in new york city.

aw, man. i was hoping to finally hear some good news about rat urine. meanwhile, news from england, where apparently "spraying axe deodorant on male sheep gets them to calm down and stop fighting" because it "masks the hormones that get the boys butting heads, [british accent] so there's no argy-bargy, no rowing." the british call fighting "argy-bargy"? that's adorable. how did these people take over the world? "all right, everyone. we're just here to steal your landy-wandy because we believe you're an inferior racey-wacey. now, chop chop, put all your natural resourcey-worseys on the boatsy-woatsy or you'll all be in for a spot of argy-murder." meanwhile, taco bell's chief marketing officer has revealed that he eats at the chain every other day. explains taco bell's new marketing campaign: "help, my blood feels thick."

apparently this guy always sticks to the same order. "two to three crunchy tacos -- not supreme, just regular crunchy tacos -- and a bean burrito with extra onions, grilled," adding "you have to try it. it's life-changing." i'm sorry. i misread that. "ending." it's life-ending. meanwhile in the netherlands, mcdonald's just debuted the world's first scented billboards which diffuse the enticing scent of mcdonald's french fries, an aroma so iconic that they haven't bothered to print anything on the billboard, not even a logo. so people will start smelling mcdonald's fries out of nowhere for no visible reason. looking forward to the new jingle. ♪ ba-da-ba-ba-ba ♪ ♪ am i havin' a stroke? ♪ meanwhile. meanwhile, in absolute freakin'

hero news, at a rockets-clippers game this week, rockets center boban marjanovic went to the free throw line and proceeded to miss the first of two shots. then, knowing that as part of a clippers promotion, if an opposing player misses two free throws in a row, fans are treated to free chicken, he did this. >> they're pointing to -- boban's playing with the crowd, saying "you want chicken?" here's your -- ahhh, he gave 'em chicken! he's a man of the people! he's a man of the people. >> you think he did that on purpose? >> he did! he gave out free chicken. >> stephen: i haven't seen sports commentators that excited since the miracle on ice. >> five seconds left in the game! the crowd is going wild! do you believe in miracles? nachos! it's nachos for everyone! nom, nom, nom, nom, nom, nom! >> stephen: we'll be right back with john lithgow.

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friends. romans, countrymen. my first guest tonight is the iconic emmy and tony award winning actor you know from "killers of the flower moon," "the crown," "terms of endearment," and so much more. now he's made a pbs special called "art happens here." >> for everybody here, it's confidence that you have the confidence. because the confidence controls how you perform. >> what the heck. it's my voice. i sing in my voice. i don't think anybody will be throwing things at me. >> no. they better not. >> i was a shy kid all over again. when you go into theaters like that, you're vulnerable and nervous no matter how old you are. but in ms. v's class, everyone was bri brimming with confidencd it was infectious.

>> stephen: please welcome back to "the late show," john lithgow. ♪ ♪ [cheers and applause] hi. nice to see you. to be too great to be back. thank you for the welcome. >> stephen: always a pleasure. there is friends of the show then there's john lithgow. very few people we've had more fun with the new. >> john: likewise. >> stephen: so many iconic titles in your cv. "terms of endearment." "the world according to garp." footloose, dexter, the crown. "third rock." [applause] are you surprised when something you're working on becomes a hit? have you ever been shocked by

how big something becomes and you didn't see it? >> john: "terms of endearment" i think was a surprise. i had no idea. "footloose." >> stephen: 40th anniversary this year. >> john: it's been a huge thing ever since i was in it but i sort of dismissed it as my teenybopper film. i took it very seriously but i knew it was for kids. but i have to tell you. years later, i was on "third rock." we had an episode. [applause] you may remember this. the aliens were stuck in a circus sideshow for some crazy reason. so that was the setting. a circus. we had a big strong tall young man who was playing a strong man at the circus. just to day player really. we were rehearsing and he took me aside when he had the chance and he said "i've been wanting to tell you this, mr. lithgow.

i'm from a little town in alabama. my dad was the baptist minister. we couldn't dance. i went to see footloose when it came to town and you are my daddy." and i took my daddy did that movie the next night without telling him anything about it." by this time tears were rolling down his cheeks. he said "i just want to do to know that because of your performance, i was the first of six children to be allowed to go to his prom." [applause] and i thought, oh, my god. >> stephen: here we have, here on the 40th anniversary year, here we have the reverend and footloose rate there. i forgot was, right next to you,

the great diane wiest. incredible. >> john: we were both in our mid-30s at the time but because all the other kids were like 20 and younger. sarah jessica parker and lori singer, all these kids. we were the oldsters. there we were in tiny little provo, utah. we were restless. being considered the old farts and we sort of reacted to that. in my pathetic little motel room, i threw all the parties. all the kids would come in and we would dance. we did "soul train." they were amazed at us. most vertically won one night we tore off all our clothes and jumped into the motel swimming pool. they were absolutely appalled. the next morning, our producer danny melnyk, he put up the memo, no more of that. we don't want to get kicked out

of provo. turns out we were ten times cooler than the kids. >> stephen: and to this very day. to this very day. we have to take a quick break but we'll be right back with more john lithgow, everybody. don't go away and i'm ready for a rematch. game on. i've been practicing. what the cello? you want me to lower the hoop? foul! what? you going to tell on me again? foul yah? foul bro! here take a free shot go ahead knock yourself out. your about to get served. seriously? get allstate, save money, and be better protected from mayhem, like me. love you mom! wait till your father gets home. you can't leave without cuddles. but, you also can't leave covered in hair. with bounce pet, you can cuddle and brush that hair off. bounce, it's the sheet.

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>> stephen: olivia colman. that will be wonderful.

hey, everybody. we are back here with a host of "art happens here," mr. john lithgow, everybody. i loved the idea of this special. you've gone back to high school for this pbs special. what was it like? i did not have the greatest high school experience. i would be very nervous to go back. what was it like to go back to high school? i think i would have, you know, flashbacks. what was it like for you? >> john: it was nervous making. just so you know. this was my little gesture for promoting the importance of arts in education. i pitched the idea of me going back to school. i had a wonderful time and i school, particularly in ninth and tenth grade of high school in our class. i wanted to be an artist back then. i wanted to capture that electric moment when a great art teacher, and eager students connect. and how else do you do that but actually go there? so i made myself the story.

>> stephen: with a at all intimidated to be there with the great john lithgow? >> john: no, they never really heard of me. [laughter] >> stephen: nothing? no "third rock"? >> john: not until they heard the word "shrek." and then they went completely crazy. you were lord farquaad! i said well, i'm not the villain here. you are. they went crazy. they went crazy. >> stephen: that's fantastic. well, i'm surprised they didn't recognize you. because event in so many things that i'm just curious. do you ever get misrecognize? sometimes people say -- steve carell, they will say to me. >> john: is a matter fact just a couple of weeks ago i had a speaking gig. i was crossing the country and changing planes in denver, eating something before my next flight. the hostess of this diner came up to me and said "i'm sorry to interrupt. does anybody ever tell you that

you remind them of charles grodin?" i said no. they usually say i remind them of john lithgow. she said "i don't know who that is." >> stephen: do lord farquaad. >> john: she reached in and got her cell phone and brought up photographs of charles grodin. and angrily pushed into my face. see? i'm not crazy. i was so confused. >> stephen: there are worse people to be confused with. >> john: great admirer of the late charles grodin. but me? >> stephen: i had someone in a grocery store line say to me, "anybody ever tell you look like stephen colbert?" and i said yep, it it happens fairly frequently. another woman standing in front of her turns around and looks to me and goes "no, i've met him.

that's not him." [laughter] >> john: that's a good one. >> stephen: i said oh, really? i said, i don't look anything like him? a little bit. but he's a lot taller than you are. [laughter] arts education is greatly undervalued in the united states. there are pockets where it's really valued. but where it's undervalued. where you think that value is for people whether or not they go into arts. you can have chatgpt do our painting in our poetry. >> john: until kids are 20 years old, they're still figuring out who they are. there is no better guide to who you are than being creative, being given the chance to be creative. that's where you find out who you are. in those days, when i was a kid, there was a full-time art and a full-time music teacher in just about every school, public school in the country. that era is long, long gone. and i think it's got to come

back. [applause] i mean, we are living in a moment where the pandemic has robbed millions of kids of two years of in class education and social development. there's an epidemic of absenteeism in school right now. it's a true, slow-moving catastrophe. there's nothing better to get them wanting to come back to school every day than the process of learning who you are through creative art. i'm absolutely convinced of it. [applause] that's my program. >> stephen: we all want to see "art happens here." you have another show coming up. you've got a new season of "the old man with jeff bridges" coming up soon. and i'm really --

is he as fun to be with as he seems? >> john: he's the most wonderful friend and actor to work with. that photograph was of a scene that took six days to shoot. near the end of the first se season. i haven't worked with him yet. i've barely knew him. we were six days in an automobile shooting that scene. it was like crossing the country with a new roommate in your college days. we just talked and talked and told stories, talked about our parents, our kids, our families. we told jokes. we got to know each other so well. he became like my best friend. shortly told me one of my best jokes. do you want to hear a jeff bridges joked? >> stephen: always. >> john: i hesitate to steal anyone's joke. but imagine jeff bridges telling

this joke. about an old man in a hospital bed having recovered from some procedure. in walks a nurse. the old man says to her "nurse. our my testicles black?" the nurses startled. your testicles. she is nonplussed but she puts on her rubber gloves, moves the blanket back, lifts the gown up, lifts up his penis and fondles one side of his scrotum and the other and says no, everything seems to be fine. the man says "but nurse, are my test results back?" imagine jeff telling that joke. >> stephen: thank you, john. >> john: i leave you with th

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welcome back. folks. i'm so happy to say that my next guest is a pulitzer prize winning historian and biographer who's written a new book called "an unfinished love story: a personal history of the 1960s." please welcome doris kearns goodwin. [cheers and applause] ♪ ♪ always nice to see you, doris. >> doris: you too. >> stephen: its old home week around here. i want to get straight into the new book. "an unfinished love story." this isn't a biography of another president for you. this is something more personal. it's attribute your late hus husband, dick goodwin. before we get into the details,

i'm curious. u2 worked on this together. that's how it started. but how do the project begin? where did the idea of this dark? >> doris: they really started after he turned 80 years old. he comes on the steps one day for breakfasting "oh what a beautiful morning" exhilarated. i said what's going on? he said i finally decided to open the boxes. what i was referring to, carried around, schlepped around with us 300 boxes over the years that data time capsule of the '60s. he's kind of a zealot of the '60s. he's everywhere. john kennedy, jackie kennedy, bobby kennedy. he didn't want to open them because he was so sad at the way it ended. he was with bobby when he died. martin luther king died. there were rides. finally decided okay if i've any wisdom to dispense it's time to dispense now. we began a project working

together on weekends. went through the decade from beginning to end so that we relived it as if we didn't know the sad things are going to happen later. >> stephen: the book covers his service for two presidents. here he is with john kennedy. >> doris: isn't he cute? cute. >> stephen: super cute. here he is with lbj. there was famous tension between the kennedy loyalists and lbj's camp. how did he bridge that? why did lbj decide to hire him? a lot of people weren't. >> doris: we knew he'd been a good speechwriter for jfk but i never was sure of the origin of how he got there until we listen to the lbj tapes, those great tapes. lbj wanted to press a button on his office desk so that whenever he wanted to remember the conversation, it would be there. >> stephen: so he could verify his memories with the tapes? >> doris: got it. or verify ideals he made with congressmen. in this case he's talking with his white house aide bill moyers ad he says you know i need somebody to write my speeches. i need somebody to put sex and the speeches, rhythm, music and the speeches.

great true chilean phases. moyers said the only guy i know is good one but is not one of us because he was a kennedy guy but he brings it over and became a great speechwriter. [applause] >> stephen: not only a great speechwriter but i understand, correct me if i'm wrong, the husband is the one who coined "the great society," the overarching description of the phrase to capture the goals of lbj. but there was already the new frontier. how did that transition happen and how quickly. was there a moment when it went from the new frontier to the great society? >> doris: oh, was there a moment. pretty good moment, interesting moment. about a month after dick got there bill moyers asked him "the president is summoning us to an important meeting. we are going to figure what his vision of the new world is going to be." unlike the kennedy vision, something that's the johnson vision. dick has a remitting the

oval office? he says no we are going to the white house pool. they get there and lyndon johnson naked swimming in the pool up and down, paddling up and down the pool. >> stephen: was this normal? to happen a lot? >> doris: it happen a lot. wherever he was with his office. they are standing there with their business suits on in their ties and he says come on in, boys. they have no bathing suits so they strip. all of a sudden three people are paddling on the pole. while they are doing that they hang onto the edge and johnson comes forth with a vision of what he wants that will eventually become the great society. it was incredible. medicare, medicaid, aid to education, immigration reform, civil rights voting rights mpr pbs. it was amazing. amazing. >> stephen: there is the achievements of lbj and the great society. for that matter, the new frontier. for that matter, the new deal. and though so many of them are

actively being attempted to be dismantled right now, with some success including the voting rights act, what do you think, first of all, your husband dick and as you reflect, what would you say is being lost in the dismantling of that vision? was it a very important time, time of great change in the united states and not ever but he likes the changes but what you think is being lost? >> doris: it was so important about the 1960s and i would love young people to remember what it was like because young people felt power than by the conviction they can make a difference in what that meant was that tens of thousands of people were marching for civil rights, for ending segregation, for the voting rights which is now being denied, for women's rights which are now being denied. for gay rights which are now being denied. the only way we are going to get them back is not by looking for heroes, not looking for leaders. we have to do it ourselves and you young people are so important in that goal. [applause] i was young in the '60s.

it was a great feeling. i was at the march on washington in 1963 and dick was there but we didn't need. i wish i'd met him then. nonetheless you felt -- i was carrying a sign. catholics and jews and protestants unite for civil rights. i felt something bigger than myself. we count on you to march and demonstrate and protest because something bad is happening in our country and you can make it right. i really believe that. [applause] >> stephen: your husband passed before this book would be completed and you say that he made you promise that you'd finish this book. now that it is finished, how do you feel to release his story, both of your story. his story into the world. >> doris: i think i was worried whether i could finish it or not. but i just be sad reliving his death in that last year but instead i think as an historian,

this is what i hope you do, it keeps him alive. i keep hearing his voice. other people will know he lived. all of us when our stories told whether we are on mount rushmore or in movies. we want people to remember who we are. the best advice i'd have for people who have older people and their families, don't let them wait to open the boxes of their memorabilia. talk to them about it now so they can tell their stories to you. you can tell them to their children. i have two grandchildren here today and i'm so glad. he died when they were young. they will know his story and they can tell it to their children and that's the way people live on forever. [applause] >> stephen: doris, so lovely to see you. thank you for being here. >> doris: so glad to see you. >> stephen: "an unfinished love story" is available now. doris kearns goodwin, everybody. we'll be right back.

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>> stephen: that's it for "the late show." tune in tomorrow when my guests will be sandra oh and reid scott. now stick around for "after midnight" with taylor tomlinson. she's got a great show tonight.