>> president biden and former president trump have both secured enough delegates to be their party's presumptive nominees. it's going to be a rematch, people. >> it's the race the american people have been dreading: the two oldest candidates in u.s. history duking it out in the

longest presidential campaign we've ever seen. >> you love high-flying, buzzer beating, slam-dunking tournament action from the ncaa's top 68 teams. but in this march madness, it's just two old men one-on-one, playing for eight months. one is old, likes ice cream and trains. the other is old, loves porn stars and will die in jail if he loses. the winner is the first to 270 or whoever doesn't die first. catch all the old man action on the court and in the court. march madness 2024. alley-oops! we did it again. >> announcer: it's "the late show with stephen colbert"! tonight... face the nomination! first, stephen welcomes paul rudd! and cecilia vega! with special appearances by jon hamm and amy sedaris. featuring louis cato and "the late show" band.

and now, live on tape from the ed sullivan theater in new york city, it's stephen colbert! [cheers and applause] >> stephen: i love you! whoa! ♪ ♪ you've got to. you've got to milk it. thanks, everybody. welcome. please have a seat. welcome one and all, ladies and gentlemen, to "the late show." i'm your host, stephen colbert. [cheering] what a beautiful day in new york. and i just want to reassure all of you watching that no one who works at my show saw one minute of it. we were inside in our dark, dirty rooms, writing tonight's monologue. please enjoy responsibly. well, folks, the inevitable

has inevit-ed, because after sweeping last night's primaries, trump has locked up the nomination. [booing] yes, i thoroughly agree. "nomination" was not what i wanted to hear after the words "trump" and "locked up." now, he wasn't -- i got that out? of course, he wasn't alone. last night, joe biden also locked up the democratic nomination. so, we... [cheering] a little slow on that one, i gotta say. so they're stepping back into the ring for a heavyweight rematch. it's like if muhammad ali fought joe frazier... now. the american people... i'm so pretty. i'm so pretty. the american people will be faced with a nearly eight-month-long general election battle that has, in some ways, already been underway

for several weeks. several weeks?! feels a lot longer than that. can we get a fact check? how long has it been? >> it's been 84 years. >> stephen: thank you. thank you. she was an intern when this started. she was a college intern when this campaign started. 2024 will also be the country's first presidential rematch in nearly 70 years, when dwight d. eisenhower defeated adlai stevenson for the second time. now, unfortunately for stevenson, "i like ike" was just so much catchier than "adlai? i agrai!" i could have done it actually. after sealing the nom, biden released a slick video ending with a call to action that reads simply: let's go. i see what you're going for, but without an exclamation mark, "let's go" seems less inspirational and more a spouse who's ready to leave the company

party. "look, they're out of food and i keep getting stuck talking to your boss. [applause] while joe offered up a traditional and well-produced campaign video, the trump team had a different approach. >> hello, everyone. it's your favorite president speaking to you on a really great day of victory. >> stephen: spoken with all the enthusiasm of a man who woke up in the hallway of a holiday inn express. "what? huh? okay. is the waffle bar still open?" now that the general election matchup is set, we can focus on the central policy issue of 2024: which guy's brains no work good. yesterday, down in d.c. the house g.o.p. grilled special

counsel robert hur, trying to get him to testify that biden is in cognitive decline. of course, democrats tried to defend biden and attempted to undercut the g.o.p.'s message with the help of this video of trump being mentally feeble. >> viktor orban. did anyone ever hear of him? he's the leader of turkey. i don't like mosquitoes. it's called, like, up here. and it's called memory. and it's called other things. >> so you don't remember saying you have one of the best memories in the world? >> i don't remember that. saudi arabia and russia will re-pe-dur -- ahhhh. >> stephen: ahhh. trump did not like the video showing that he's losing the cognitive. so he went on truth social last night and played the get-out-of-reality card. "artificial intelligence was used by them against me in their videos of me. can't do that, joe!" he is right. you can't do that. even a.i. couldn't come up with "ahhhh." "ah, ahhh." but these are definitely real and i know that because we have

here at "the late show" every night cut together these same kind of montages so let me just ask my footage department. the video we use, that's not a.i., right? >> no. they were totally real, steve. >> stephen: thanks, bill. one thing that's very real is trump's hush money trial, which is slated to start in just two weeks. yesterday, trump rolled out a nifty new legal strategy, informing the court that he'll argue he didn't commit any wrongdoing because his lawyers were involved in the incident. yes, that's a little known& loophole. if there's a lawyer there, nothing is a crime. that's why alan dershowitz is allowed to run those profitable cockfights. but he keeps his underwear on. now, there's an official term for "my lawyer told me it was okay." it's called "the advice of counsel defense." but according to trump's team, their argument will not be a formal advice-of-counsel defense. it's more informal.

they don't want to put a label on it. "your honor, not to be cringe, but we're not doing the advice-of-counsel thing, it will be more of a vibe check of counsel. no, no. you're delulu." delulu. they're delulu fans. trump's lawyers are also asking to delay the hush money trial indefinitely until trump's immunity claim in his election interference case is resolved, because they say some of the evidence in the alleged acts in the hush money case overlap with his time in the white house and constitute official acts. how is that better? "yes, i torched a build-a-bear workshop, but before you judge me, keep in mind, when i bought the kerosene, i was president of the united states." [laughter] now, trump needs... [cheering]

trump needs cash to pay his legal bills, and to get it, he has taken over the republican national committee. he recently replaced the rnc leadership with his cronies, including daughter-in-law and plastic surgery who's had some woman done, lara trump. lara's credentials to run a major party organization include "none," so when she was nominated, she was introduced this way. >> in a world where qualifications are often measured by titles and years of experience, we're reminded of a powerful truth. god does not call the qualified, he qualifies the called. lara trump is the embodiment of this truth. >> stephen: "sure, lara trump may not be qualified. she may not have experience doing things, but she has done what no one thought possible: she married eric trump. so, we are where we are.

way to go, god." way to go. now, once lara was in charge, her team got right to work making the rnc great again by firing dozens of employees. that blindsided longtime rnc staff, one of whom told reporters, "gutting a committee just before the election seems insane." insane? really? would an insane man say this? >> bah, bah, bah, bah, bah. >> stephen: damn you, ai! but... [applause] but lara has a plan to replace all the experienced staff she just liquidated. >> right now we have the first-ever election integrity division at the rnc. if you want to volunteer as a poll watcher, poll worker, or a volunteer lawyer. because we want those as well. >> stephen: i'm sorry.

did you say volunteer lawyer? i think rudy's ears just perked up. "put me in, lara! i work pro bono. also, pro bordeaux, pro-chardonnay, and pro lo mein i just found in the dumpster. the box is still empty. get back, raccoon! it's mine! get back!" it wasn't just staff. the rnc is also cutting some of its initiatives, starting with ending the g.o.p. minority outreach program. so sad. they were just about to identify a minority to reach out to. now, one person who doesn't need a political party is independent candidate rfk jr. he has been in a bit of hot water, which is one of the reasons he looks parboiled. the other reason is that he has admitted to flying on jeffrey epstein's plane.

well, last week, a podcaster asked him about that, and his explanation was refreshingly disturbing. >> you know, i'm in new york for most of my life. so yeah, so i run into everybody in new york. i mean, i knew harvey weinstein. i knew oger ailes. i knew -- oj simpson came to my house. bill cosby came to my house. >> stephen: "i mean, you gotta understand, no, folks. you gotta understand. r. kelly is my roommate. i'm pen pals with danny masterson. my groomsmen were kevin spacey, armie hammer, and the son of sam. i once had dinner with jeffrey dahmer, and i knew it was people! what can i say? i live in new york!" now, rfk is not the only -- rfk fans! now, rfk jr. is not letting the controversy slow him down. yesterday, we learned that he is reportedly

considering aaron rodgers for veep. now, that's a risky move to pick rodgers. 'cause if we've learned one thing, it's that the minute he starts running, he's gonna snap his achilles. but philosophically, it's a good match, philosophically because like his buddy rfk jr., rodgers is anti-vax. but that's not all he would bring to the ticket. he's also known for talking about pooping in the dark at an isolation retreat, touting the healing powers of dolphins' mating sounds, and advocating for psychedelics and ayahuasca. this would not be the first presidential ticket to embrace psychotropic drugs. i mean, who can forget william henry harrison's 1840 campaign? trippy-canoe and spiders! ahhhh! there's no actual spiders. rodgers isn't the only contender. bobby jr. is evidently also considering former minnesota governor and frankenstein at a hish concert, jesse ventura. no final decision yet,

but rfk jr. did confirm that both men are at the top of his list. and i think i can guess the rest of that list. >> harvey weinstein. bill cosby.- >> stephen: we got a great show for you tonight! my guests are paul rudd and "60 minutes"' cecilia vega. but when we come back, a very important message with some very famous friends. stick around. you're gonna learn something. ♪ ♪ >> announcer: "the late show with stephen colbert" sponsored by neutrogena hydro boost. boost your skin's vitals. skin-carving next level hydration? new neutrogena hydro boost water cream. a vital boost of nine times more hydration* to boost your skin's barrier for quenched,

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♪ ♪ >> stephen: welcome back, everybody! give it up for louis cato and "the late show" band, everybody, right there. my friends. oh, my friends. thank you very much. in just a few moments, just a few moments, we have from "60 minutes" correspondent cecilia vega will be out here in just a moment and before that, a delightful person,

a wonderful actor, a very funny guy and just a nice person. paul rudd will be out here in just a moment. from the "ghostbusters" movie coming out in just a moment. folks, i have really enjoyed this awards season. because if there's one thing i love, it's movies. i love the moment when the lights go down and you step in, you pop open a fresh bottle of shampoo and you just start scrub -- i'm sorry. i just realized i was talking about showers. but movies are great too! i mean, the curtains close, the steam rises up and it's a little too hot before your skin gets in. and hang on. why am i talking about showers again? movies, movies, movies. right, okay. tell you what. do you like to go to the movies, loofah? >> louis: uh, it's louis. >> stephen: i know that. why, what'd i say? >> lousi: you called me loofah. >> stephen: really? >> louis: mm-hmm. >> stephen: okay. well, anyway, it doesn't matter. there were so many great films this past year featuring great actors, margot robbie, pert plus, cillian murphy.

>> stephen? stephen, are you okay? is everything okay? >> stephen: yeah, i'm fine. i'm just doing this segment about movies for the greatest audience in the world! [cheering] [ominous music] hold on. hold on. i just need a minute. hold on. hold on. i'll be back. snap out of it, colbert! why do you keep talking about showers? you love movies. they're your favorite part of the morning routine. the lathering, the scrubbing. what am i saying?! >> she got you too, huh? >> stephen: jon hamm. wait. what do you mean, "she got me too"? >> the shower witch. >> stephen: who? >> oh, you sweet fool. the shower witch. the magical being that guards the barrier between the showers and reality. >> stephen: i thought she was just an urban legend. >> [growling] you must have angered her. think! what could you have done to anger the shower witch? >> stephen: i don't know. the only thing i can think of is that i stayed in a hotel last week.

>> both: and you know how there's those two shower curtains and one goes on the inside and the outside? well, i accidentally put them both on the outside and the floor got a little wet! >> stephen: oh, my god! how do i make this right? i got a shower to do. >> don't you mean "show"? >> stephen: that's what i said. >> you listen to me or you'll end up just like me. everything i love is a shower. my shower? my shower! even the time i spend in my shower. >> stephen: gah! >> i can't even shower at night, stephen! i'm tossing and turning in my tub. in my tub! >> stephen: there's no such thing as a shower witch. there's no such thing as a shower witch. >> oh, yes, there is. >> stephen: ahh! shower witch! >> ha-ha! thought you could bend the rules, colbert. water belongs in the tub, not on the floor! >> stephen: i wasn't thinking. >> well, now you'll think of nothing but showers until you can answer the riddle of the shower witch. what walks on four legs in the

morning? >> stephen: oh! i know this one. it's man. >> you didn't let me finish. >> stephen: okay. >> four legs in the morning, four legs in the afternoon, and four legs in the evening. >> stephen: uh... is it a dog? >> doesn't count! you already said "man." >> stephen: please! there's gotta be another way! >> if you can guess my name, the curse will end. >> stephen: guess your name? but that's impossible. uh, i don't know. helen? >> ah! curses! that was luck! doesn't count if it's luck. >> stephen: darn it! >> last chance, fatso. a boy and his father in a terrible car accident. they get to the emergency room. the doctor says "i can't operate on that patient. he's my son." how is that possible? >> stephen: is the doctor the boy's other father? >> [bleep] you! nobody gets that! no one! fine! the curse is ended, colbert. for now. [cackling] [cheers and applause]

>> stephen: folks, we've had some fun tonight, but at the heart of our silly little skit is a very serious message. >> you should never leave both curtains outside your shower. >> stephen: it's one of the top reasons the bathroom floors get a little wet. >> not super wet but definitely kind of damp. >> stephen: if you're one of the many americans affected by slightly wet bathroom floors, type the link below into your web browser for a toll-free number you can call. >> operators will be standing by to mail you a qr code you can scan to take you to that browser link. >> together we can make a difference. >> stephen: take it from me, stephen colbert. >> me, jon hamm. >> and me, actor and lifelong new yorker robert de niro. keep your bathroom floors dry by making sure the inside shower curtain stays inside the tub. >> good night. >> and good scrub. >> stephen: we'll be right back with paul rudd. ♪ ♪

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♪ ♪ [cheers and applause] >> stephen: welcome back, everybody. ladies and gentlemen, my first guest tonight is an actor you know from "this is 40," "ant-man," and "ghostbusters: afterlife." please welcome back to "the late show,"

my friend and yours, mr. paul rudd. [cheers and applause] ♪ ♪ "wichita lineman." >> paul: oh, my god! oh, my gosh. that was so nice. thank you. "wichita lineman," all right. >> stephen: there you go. nice to see you again. >> paul: nice to see you. >> stephen: we've got a lot to talk about what we could just sit here too because you're you can find a friend you can be quiet with, hold on to that person. >> paul: i'm so happy you feel that way. i feel that way about you. we could just be in each other's

company, not even talk. >> stephen: who cares what movie you're here to promote. just read a book. i do want to talk about one thing before we get all quiet together. that is, the last time you were here, you may not remember because it's been a minute. last time you were here, it was the day that you were named "people" magazine's sexiest man alive. [cheering] and since then... >> paul: not anymore. >> stephen: no. how does it feel to return to merely being a man alive? >> paul: i'm just alive now. it doesn't feel much different. >> stephen: okay. i'm not saying you are devoid of sexy. >> paul: i don't know. i don't think i was really warranted the award in the first place. >> stephen: hey, look. >> paul: no, no, no. >> stephen: come on. it's "people" magazine. [cheering] >> paul: let me just say, though, recently i saw a picture

of patrick dempsey. dreamy. oh, you've got one? >> stephen: this is the reigning sexiest man alive. >> paul: now that i get. >> stephen: yeah. >> paul: the shock of silver. good-looking guy. >> stephen: when i look at this, i get what you're saying. i think we need to put in the dipstick and check your sex level. you might be a quart low. >> paul: i am more than a quart low. >> stephen: okay. longtime kansas city chiefs fan over here, this fella. og, like not -- back when they weren't winning. >> paul: back like steve fuller. huh? those days. my entire childhood, everything. it's weird. it used to be people would say "are you a football fan?" and i would say yes. what's your team? i would say kansas city chiefs and they would just go "oh, that's cute." it's a strange sensation.

i think any chiefs fan would say the same thing. >> stephen: second consecutive super bowl win. was it as exciting the second time? >> paul: yeah, it's unreal. >> stephen: did you go? >> paul: i went. i went. it's exciting. it's exciting when you win. it's awful watching it. i don't think it's an enjoyable experience at all. >> stephen: you don't get a contact high or anything? >> paul: i don't talk to anybody. i go with my son who is equally as passionate about the team as i am. >> stephen: you don't talk to your son about it? >> paul: we look at each other. we go "oh!" and we get so mad. and then we hug and high-five throughout the game but we don't say much. we sit on the edge of our seats. basically it's an awful feeling until hopefully elation. >> stephen: right. that's some of the best fathering. just rage and fear. and silence. >> paul: i've got two gears. rage and fear.

and sexy, once upon a time. >> stephen: are you superstitious? >> paul: i'm so superstitious. it's so dumb. >> stephen: do you have to wear -- i have to wear my hat sideways or something. >> paul: it gets even worse. we were watching the game, my kid and i, and i took a sip of a water bottle and i put it down on the ground and then we wound up scoring and i'm like, i'm not touching that bottle again. it has to face out a certain way. it's all stupid. >> stephen: there is medicine for that now, by the way. i think they advertise on this show. >> paul: are you a sports fan? >> stephen: i play a little hacky sack. >> paul: you hacky? >> stephen: i sack. we call ourselves sacker. i am a sacker. you never serve yourself. and you don't apologize. [laughter] you sack it up? >> paul: i have sacked. >> stephen: i would love to see your sack someday.

your sack handling is what i'm looking for. i don't normally follow sports. >> paul: i will show you my sack whenever you want to see it. >> stephen: thank you very much. let me ask you about your sack. >> paul: please. >> stephen: sexy? >> paul: not so much. but a little hacky. >> stephen: we have to take >> stephen: we have to take a quick break but don't go nowhere. we'll be back with more paul rudd, everybody. stick around. ♪ ♪ (♪♪) healthier means taking the first step on your mental health journey. (♪♪) ♪ healthier happens together. ♪

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♪ ♪ >> stephen: i thought it was my idea until she shut that down. hey, everybody. we are back with one of the stars of "ghostbusters: frozen empire," sir paul rudd. you were at -- you went to taylor swift. you've got all these new fans this year for kc because all the swifties came over too. do you welcome them? you're like, you are here for the wrong reasons? >> paul: no, no, again, it's strange that all of a sudden all eyes are on the chiefs. it's also weird because it's like now people -- i was surprised there were that many cheers because people don't like them now because they win. it's like the only thing there is that your goal in a way is to become hated. right? everybody hates it when you win which i understand. but no, this whole thing is very

exciting, i think. i see those stories about the dads and their daugters and their interest in watching the games together. i get all choked up watching it and i have a daughter. she's into it. my daughter, by the way, is also like my son and has grown up a chiefs fanatic. and she loves taylor swift. but when that first started, you know, it was like my daughter said well, i wonder how many of these new swifties are going to be able to talk about dicaprio bootle. i said none of them. but you can. he was on our practice squad. >> stephen: okay. you mind if i ask how old is your daughter? >> paul: 14. >> stephen: when my daughter was 14 i took her to the grammys and she met taylor swift and taylor swift was so nice to her and to this day i would murder for her if she wanted me to. she was nice to my daughter. she said "pretty girl." i'm like, whatever you want,

my queen. >> paul: i went to that show and it was incredible. i was so knocked out. it was like a stadium filled with 80,000 people, whatever it was. i just thought there is so much support and love and positivity and to feel that kind of, that feeling with that many people. normally it's the opposite feeling. it gets pretty rough. the super bowl, there's a lot of screaming and fans fighting each other and there, it was pure love and support. it was incredible. she did it all. >> paul: you met a fan of yours there. at the taylor swift concert. you met a fan of yours named claude. tell me about claude. >> paul: claude is a musician. phoebe bridgers was also performing with taylor swift and claude is a musician. i believe their album is on phoebe's label. i met claude. i wasn't familiar with claude but claude told me on their album they had a song called "paul rudd."

and then claude said that we are going to film a video in like two weeks. do you want to -- you want to come by? [laughter] i said sure. >> stephen: wow. >> paul: i got to be in the video. >> stephen: and we have it. jim? >> claude. >> yeah. it's your birthday. >> it's for my girlfriend. a gift. >> your girlfriend. i wish i had a girlfriend. i just have a ferret. ♪ ♪ >> stephen: you're a really good musician. really good musician. >> paul: by the way, claude is an amazing musician and that song rocks. >> stephen: okay, good. >> paul: another added bonus. >> stephen: you've got the new movie. you've got "ghostbusters: frozen empire." [cheering] brings back mostly the original

"ghostbusters," including annie potts. i understand you got to use some of the iconic props from the original, the og "ghostbusters," including the car ecto one. how does she drive? >> paul: cumbersome. but you know what? not bad for a car that's been around awhile. there's not a lot of them. i think it was from the original. >> stephen: it was old then. >> paul: it was old then. the thing that's so crazy about it is that it -- all of the things inside of it and the proton packs and things in the car, they all look like they would work. they all seem like they're heavy and there's wires everywhere and it seems like yeah, i believe that this would be able to catch some ghosts. and driving it was a thrill. >> stephen: we have a clip here. it's you and the great carrie coon in this. >> paul: okay, great. >> stephen: do we need to set

this up? >> paul: it's from "ghostbusters." >> i would kind of like to stay and fight for this place. >> we can't leave. >> there is something strange in the neighborhood. >> who are they gonna call? if there's something weird and it don't look good. who ya going to call? >> ghostbusters. >> i'm sorry. what was that? >> ghostbusters. >> ghostbusters. this is the home of the ghostbusters. we're the ghostbusters. can i tell you something else? >> what? >> bustin' makes me feel good. >> no, no. [cheering] >> paul: i suppose i could have set it up better. >> stephen: "ghostbusters: frozen empire" is in theaters march 22nd. paul rudd, everybody.

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is a journalist who is the newest correspondent on america's most watched news program. please welcome to "the late show," from cbs's "60 minutes," cecilia vega. [cheers and applause] ♪ ♪ there you go. >> cecilia: hi. >> stephen: lovely to meet you. welcome to late night. >> cecilia: thank you! they told me to walk around and take a look, and it is as beautiful as i'm told. >> stephen: it is nice. yeah, yeah. it's not this pretty at the broadcast center? >> cecilia: this is a more comfortable chair than the one we sit on at "60 minutes." that's just a little stool and i haven't figured out where to put my feet. >> stephen: paul rudd was just out here. i don't know if you saw that.

you're a news person. you've watched "anchorman," i imagine at some point. what do you think? how realistic is that. >> cecilia: well, i don't know if you know this, but i'm kind of a big deal. >> stephen: wow. wow. >> cecilia: i'm very important and i have many leather bound books and my apartment smells of rich mahogany. can i keep going? [laughter] >> stephen: how do you think his character brian fontana would do over at "60?" >> cecilia: he would do very well. we would probably have to get rid of the hat he likes to wear and rein in the cologne. >> stephen: the sex panther. >> cecilia: the sex panther. >> stephen: last year you became the newest correspondent on cbs's "60 minutes." the storied news show. you been in the role for about a year. a, are you comfortable as a correspondent over at "60 minutes"? is there a hazing process? was anyone mean to you? >> cecilia: not yet. not yet. >> stephen: how do you do on the walk and talk? like, we are walking through the rubble and go "we spoke to the ambassador about the latest bombardment."

you're just walking. we don't get to hear what you're saying. >> cecilia: i don't know if this is how the great leslie stahl does it or the great scott pelley does it this way. but what i figured out about the walk and talk, this is the "60 minutes" secret, by the time you're doing the walk and talk you've literally sat down with people for two hours. you don't actually have anymore questions you need to ask them so now i'm just asking, what is your favorite girl scout cookie. or let me gesture and make it look like i'm really smart in this conversation. we are talking about where to get a hamburger after the shoot. i am still working on the pensive walk and talk nod. the nodding and walking doesn't come naturally but we will get there. >> stephen: you've got to get a pair of glasses so you can do the scott pelley. >> cecilia: yeah. i'm not there yet. >> stephen: anderson taught me that the thing to do is have your jacket buttoned and as you go in for the second question you go "let me ask you." you pop that button.

>> cecilia: i do a lady version of the lean in. i do the knee on the -- >> stephen: i would tell you anything right now. very imposing. one of the most famous things, iconic things on television is the ticking. and then "i'm scott pelley." how many times did you practice and how many times did you have to say "i'm cecilia vega?" before you got it right. >> cecilia: i did not practice. i was so terrified and so nervous to do this the very first time. >> stephen: because that's it. >> cecilia: this show is the pinnacle of journalism. that said, that stool is so iconic in terms of what we do. and the thought of, for me, before getting out there, practicing in the mirror, i was like "no way." also you said your name your entire life. why do you need to practice that? and then you get out there.

>> stephen: you say it a little different. say "i'm cecilia vega." >> cecilia: or is it fast or is it ron burgundy? "i'm cecilia vega." which one is it? >> stephen: scott pelley. when you meet scott pelley in the wild, he says "i am scott pelley." he says it exactly the same way. >> cecilia: i didn't do it. i did it cold. i walked in. my knees were shaking. even though i know my own name it took me eight or nine takes. [laughs] but here's the thing. i do not hold the record on "60 minutes" for the most first takes for the "i'ms" on that chair, but i'm never going to tell you who does. >> stephen: that means it's scott pelley. [laughter] i'm scott pelley. i'm scott pelley? i'm scott pelley? you used to be white house correspondent for "abc news." >> cecilia: abc. >> stephen: okay, during a 2018 press conference, you had --

there was a little bit of tension between you and president trump. not coming from your questions. you hadn't even asked a question yet. i want to play it and see what you remember of that moment. >> she is shocked that i picked her. she is in a state of shock. >> i'm not thinking, mr. president. >> i know you're not thinking. you never do. >> i'm sorry? >> no, go ahead. go ahead. >> in a tweet, you said it's incorrect to say you're limiting the scope of the fbi investigation. >> what does that have to do? i don't mind answering the question. >> it has to do with the other headline in the news. >> i know but how about talking about trade and then we'll get to that. anybody have trade? >> do you think your trade deal will pass through congress, sir? >> i think so but if doesn't, we have lots of other alternatives. >> stephen: what is that moment like as a reporter. before you even begin, you're getting a hostile response. >> cecilia: i remember it happening in slow motion and i

clearly remember my brain compartmentalizing at that time. to be in that moment when basically the cabinet members are behind the president and the president of the united states and everyone in the rose garden sort of turns to look at you, it happens in slow motion. i remember very clearly telling myself don't cede this turf to him. former president trump looked for journalists to be a sparring partner. he wanted a punching bag. he enjoyed getting the mud with us. for me to have given that to him would have lost what i was there to do, which was to ask the questions. my north star then, is today, it will always be just ask the question. it's not about the journalist. not about the personality. not about me getting in the mud with the president. that's the easy road. the harder thing to do was just to keep asking the question and i did and i will say he eventually did answer it. it took a few times. [cheers and applause] >> stephen: it's nice to see that again. >> cecilia: is that nice for you? >> stephen: no.

i'm not saying it's nice for me to see that happen to you but it's educational to be reminded of what the relationship with the press was back then. i think there is a trump amnesia that goes on. people forget just how crazy everything was all the time. everything was always chaos and conflict. >> cecilia: the chaos, conflict all the time and it took us a long time to figure out. i think i can say this looking back, how to cover him. we had to learn how to do it. every tweet you were jumping out and running to the camera and breaking news and updating and now i think we're much better equipped to pause, breathe, and fact-check and not necessarily run everything live in real-time. >> stephen: cecilia, lovely to meet you. thank you so much for being here. "60 minutes" airs sunday nights at 7:00 on cbs. cecilia vega, everybody. we'll be right back.

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