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- lift the clouds off of... - virtual weather, only on kpix and pix+. welcome back to "face the nation." we continue our conversation with the governor of maryland, wes moore. governor, i want to pick up on this question of how to rebuild and how quickly. i know you will be going to the capitol this week to meet with lawmakers. senator van hollen just
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mentioned. reports the price tag could reach as high as a billion, if to the more. how much are you asking u.s. taxpayers for in. >> we don't yet know what the price tag is going to be. the thing that we know is that the port of baltimore is responsible for $70 billion of economic activity to the american economy. we know that the key bridge had over 36,000 people who traveled over it every single day, people getting from where they live to where they work, to where they worship, to where they go to school, and so the importance in knowing this is not just a tragedy that has regionl implication, but a tragedy that has national implications, is incredibly important. the port of baltimore is the largest port in the country for new cars and heavy trucks and agricultural equipment and spices and sugar, for us to have a collective and bipartisan response to its rebuild is imperative. >> so the president has vowed to have federal dollars rebuild the bridge.
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he repeated that again friday. then he added on that he'll make sure the parties responsible will pay to repair the damage as well. how is that going to work? the taxpayers front the cash and then insurance claims pay them back? >> that's exactly right. basically what he's saying, and i'm thankful to the president for saying, that this is going to be a national response to something that is a national tragedy. and at the same time, if people need to be held to account for what happened, they must be held to account. there's an independent ntsb investigation that's taking place right now. i can tell you i want that investigation to be speedy, i want the investigation to be thorough and if people need to be held to account for it there needs to be accountability for what happened that night. > the court don't work in a speedy fashion by design here and the ship owner grace ocean and the ship manager filed to limit their liability to $44 million. do you have any expectation that they will pay for anything? >> we expected that to happen.
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we are prepared for that to happen. there's going to be an independent investigation that will take place, and if they are deemed liable and responsible for what happened, they need to be responsible for helping with that cleanup. >> president biden also said on friday when he visited the port that u.s. steel and union labor will be used to rebuild it. be can you move swiftly with those kind of stipulations? >> i think it's going to be important we are building and rebuilding this with the way that is going to be on time and on budget with a very clear plan. i think if one thing people know in the state of maryland, we believe in labor and we believe in union work. we believe in making sure that those key criteria are hit. i know this is going to be a long project, this is going to be an expensive project, and it's going to require a lot of hands and elements inside of it but people have come to know that we support labor in our state. >> how is it going so far? >> i've been amazed because if you would have told me nine days
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ago after what i saw that first morning that we could be here on this sunday morning with channels opened up, ships up to a 14 foot depth able to traverse the river and get to the port, if you would have told me that we were already starting moving -- we have now moved hundreds of tons out of the river and if you look at the fact that even in the past few days we've removed over 250 tons from the river, that is the equivalent to the weight of the statute of liberty. i've been amazed how this coordination between federal, state, local coast guard, the army corps of engineers, how everything is working in a synced way and very proud of the response. >> governor, good luck. >> thank you. >> with the effort. we appreciate your time today. we go now to arkansas and republican congressman french hill who joins us from little rock. good morning to you,
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congressman. >> good morning, margaret. good to be with you. >> i have a lot of topics to get to, but are you open as a republican to helping to vote to get help to baltimore to rebuild with federal dollars? >> we had a serious collapse of the interstate 40 bridge over the mississippi river in memphis and so i'm completely supportive of states working with the federal government to get the bridge back up and open as soon as possible. naturally there's a role for insurance, private settlement wih the companies and parties responsible, and then the traditional federal-state split for infrastructure programs. whatever it takes to get it done in the right way and bridge back functioning for the people of baltimore. >> okay. some of your freedom caucus colleagues have been skeptical which is why i asked for that. i want to get to some of the things that are coming up, potentially, for vote and for expiration. i know you sit on the
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intelligence committee, and must be aware of not just this law enforcement bulletin warning of domestic terror threats but also the concern of retaliation by iran for a strike israel recently conducted. a key surveillance tool 702 will expire april 19th. are you confident congress will authorize it in the coming days? >> i am confident that we will have support for renewing the authorization for the use of 702, which is a critical element -- i've seen in intimate detail the vital role that 702 surveillance plays in keeping america safe. i think congress will come together and we'll reauthorize its use. that's also going to be part of 50 reforms in how the fisa court, the foreign intelligence surveillance court, and how the act operates. it will be the first serious reforms in probably some 20
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years and these are 50 bipartisan reforms and reforms that i believe have the full support of house republicans. >> and this will come up, i imagine, before we see any vote on ukraine aid. do you have any commitment from speaker johnson as to a date, a timeline, for moving aid that i know you support? >> margaret, i believe that speaker johnson will bring up support for the supplemental appropriations for ukraine, for taiwan, for israel, immediately after completing the work on fisa and fisa's extension, that deadline of april 19th makes ate priority for the first few days that we're back. ukraine remains a priority, as does our support for israel and taiwan. and yes, i believe he's fully committed to bringing it up to the floor immediately thereafter, and i thin that's critical as it should have been passed months ago. >> you want to make some
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changes, including attaching a provision that would allow for the u.s. to seize russian sovereign assets and use them in the future to rebuild ukraine. any tweaks you make doesn't that slow down the pathway for this to actually pass through the senate and get to the ukrainians who say they are running out of time? >> well, the repo act you're referencing where we use russian svereign assets held in western european or financial institutions $300 billion would go a long way to filling the ukrainian budget gap and a good down payment for reconstruction to make putin pay the ultimate cost of his illegal invasion of ukraine. it had a strong vote in the senate foreign relations committee, 20 to 2, strong vote in the house foreign affairs committee, 40 to 2. these are good votes and i think this provision would strengthen the package on the floor and i believe it has support in the hose and senate and would be,
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in my judgment, a way to get more support for the total package for ukraine seizing these russian assets. there's support in europe for this. prime minister sue knack is supportive of this strategy and others in europe. >> skeptics as well, but i need to ask because your republican colleague marjorie taylor greene filed a motion to vacate to oust speaker johnson. she says if he puts ukraine aid to a vote and reauthorizes 702 the republican base will go crazy. do you agree and is the speaker at risk of being ousted if he does these things you say are essential? >> well, i don't support -- i don't share the view that americans, including republican voters, that believe that putin should win in ukraine. i think overwhelmingly americans and republican primary voters believe that putin should be defeated in ukraine. as i've said before we should draw the line on authoritarian
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dictators, permanent members of the security council, invading neighboring countries. i believe both democratic, independent and republican voters support defeating putin, backing ukraine, and having a resolution here. it's not in america's economic, diplomatic or military interests for putin to be successful in europe or in the far east. >> all right. congressman hill, we'll watch for those actions. we'll be right back. whatever they may be. all that planning has paid off. looks like you can make this work. we can make this work. and the feeling of confidence that comes from our advice... i can make this work. that seems to be universal. i can make this work. i can make this work. no wonder more than 9 out of 10 clients are likely to recommend us. because advice worth listening to is advice worth talking about. ameriprise financial. ♪♪ imagine a future where plastic is not wasted...
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over 200 humanitarian aid workers have been killed in gaza since october 7th. we're joined by the executive director of doctors without borders in the u.s. avril benoit and save the children president janti soeripto is back with us in washington. i want to say condolences to both of you and your organizations for the workers that you've lost in this conflict and i appreciate you being here with us.
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janti soeripto you testified before the u.n. this week about this ongoing problem. you said, more children have been killed in this conflict than have been killed in all armed conflicts globally every year over the past four years. >> yeah. i know. it sounds almost unbelievable when you say it out loud. >> it's horrific. >> it is horrific and people stop hearing, i think, when you hear all those numbers, thousands, and they forget behnd every -- all those thousands there is a child and their families behind it. >> children. and avril benoit, i want to go to you on this, because you and the people who you work with provide help, medical aid, to those who are injured, who might be able to survive what is happening there. i want to ask you, why you think
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we've seen this outcry this week in the wake of the killing of the seven world central kitchen workers, including an american, but we didn't hear the same after 225 aid workers were killed? why do you think that is? >> it certainly warrants an outcry, and it warrants an outcry every time these things happen, not only have we seen so many civilians killed and injured, 33,000 killed, roughly 75,000 people injured, and it's proportionate to the population so in terms of the number of children, women, who are injured and killed, it's very matching and so you ask yourself is this a war against hamas or a war against civilians, and among the civilians, we also have a pattern of attacks against journalists and we see a pattern
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also of attacks against aid workers who are there to do nothing more than alleviate suffering and save lives. in our case doctors without borders has lost five colleagues and they were in situations in some cases where they were literally at the bedside of patients in hospitals when they were killed. >> i'll be less diplomatic. do you think that there wasn't an outcry because these aren't westerners? >> no doubt, the fact that world central kitchen, the victims, of the attack, were internationals, is the kind of thing that attract morse attention. it's finally attracted the attention of president biden, and that, of course, should concern us all because every life should be considered of similar value, of great value, whether it's a westerner or a palestinian.
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you can draw conclusions. we certainly are concerned about the fact that it took this attack for there to be the kind of international outcry that we've seen, although, frankly, we do think it's warranted. >> yeah. >> there has been in this incident just, you know, a sense that it was just an accident, that it was an isolated event, and that is far from being the case when you actually look at the pattern of attacks on aid workers thus far. >> that is why i asked john kirby about that pattern and if there was evidence of what you say, that it was deliberate. janti, you said this week at the u.n. as well that this is not just about dehumanizing the victims. it dehumanizes all of us. explain what you mean. for people who think this is far away and doesn't matter to them. >> i think, you know, the fact that these, yes, attacks on aid workers, attacks on schools, on hospitals, to avril's point, is
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continuing to be allowed to happen. war, there are rules. there are laws against this wan tant destruction of schools, homes, hospitals, killing of civilians, and we're just watching this unfold. i do think that it is dehumanizing for all of us, more so for us than it is of the civilians caught up in this horrific conflict. >> secretary blinken did lay out specific metrics in terms of not just trucks but aid workers getting in, and he also said the reversal of some of the measurable impacts of famine. that takes time. how long does it take to reverse famine? >> well, i guess the answer is always it depends. how much unfettered access can we get? how much supplies are we going to have allowed in? it's great to hear more outrage from the president and secretary blinken and yet, despite that
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outrage, the next day, we signed more arms to go to israel. you know, i would love to see some action behind those words because we're not seeing it on the ground. we are not seeing more supplies coming in. we're now hearing noises about crossings, more crossings openings, potentially better access to the north from the south, that would all be welcomed, long, long overdue but very welcome. we have yet to see some of that really happen on the ground and to see more details when this crossing is opening, for whom it is opening, when the port can be ready, but actually, there are thousands of trucks with food and water and medical supplies on the border in rafah. i saw it myself two weeks ago. thousands of trucks waiting. you can let them in. >> that's a political decision. >> that's right. >> avril, before if let you go, your organization is asking for an investigation into the deaths of your workers.
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why hasn't there been a response? >> well, there hasn't been a response because what we have seen time and again for the last six months is that israel is conducting this war in a way that completely disregards the need to protect civilians at all costs. there are norms of war, the geneva international law and we see systemically this is disrespected. we would examine an answer on that. on the question of famine and acute malnutrition it's a medical condition, slow motion massacre of people to subject them to the kind of deprivation of food and water they have been subjected to for the last six months. it requires a medical response, massive influx, not just of food, of trucks, of flour, of lentils, but of medicines and of trained personnel who know how to bring a child who is in complete organ failure back to health after suffering this kind
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of malnutrition. >> thank you, both, for joining us today. we'll be back in a moment. ( ♪♪ ) you made a cow! actually it's a piggy bank.
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parties are gathering in cairo to restart negotiations to release the more than 130 hostages being held by hamas. rachel goldberg poland's 23-year-old son herb was taken by hamas six months ago and joins us from new york. welcome to "face the nation." i cannot imagine how painful the last six months have been for you, the 184 days that your son has been away from you. but i know you've been on a mission and you met with the pope, been to the u.n., you have been to the white house and tomorrow you will be back at the white house. what are you expecting to hear? >> well, you know, this is such a painful, staggeringly indescribable odyssey that we are on, and as you said, you can't imagine.
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i often say, oh, i also can't imagine what we're going through, and yes, we are going to be returning to washington tomorrow to have meetings with different people in the administration, and we really want to understand what is happening to ensure that these people -- remember, margaret, we have eight american citizens who have been held for 184 days, and we are feeling extreme desperation, despair, and we've had wonderful access and sympathy and open doors and lots of hugs from everyone in the u.s. government, but this is a very binary situation. we want our people back. period. and that's what we're going to be talking tomorrow about, is what is actually going to be
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happening? what leverage, what levers need to be pulled, in order to make this happen? because six months is actually a complete failure on everybody's part, and i include myself in that as a parent, that i have not been able to save my son. i don't know -- i think that you're a parent, anyone who is a parent, can appreciate our job is to keep our children safe and when they get in a situation when they're not safe, our job is to save them. i feel that i have failed and i feel that our governments have failed and i feel that all the parties at the table have failed to get these 133 souls back home. >> you have said in the past you wish the mothers could be at the negotiating table. i also read you said, israeli leaders are not thinking straight because they're speaking from a place of guilt ridden trauma and you've asked the jewish communities around
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the world to press the men in power. what are you asking people at home to do to help you? >> well, there are so many different things that can be done. you know, there's advocacy really that needs to be done so people around the world understand who is this cohort of hostages that are being held? i think there's so much noise and anger and hatred in the world that people are forgetting that there's a representation of all different types of people being held. you know, we still have eight muslim arabs being held in this hostage cohort. we have seven thai buddhists being held. we have two black africa can christians being held. people from nepal and mexico and germany and people from france.
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people from all over the world. this is not just one homogenous group of people that is being held. i think that that kind of gets lost in all the noise. i think talking to your leaders, wherever you are in the world, certainly your local elected leaders in america, writing to the white house, again, the biden administration has been wonderful and very supportive, but we have one goal, we need these people home. >> yeah. we wish you our best and we are watching your advocacy and we'll continue asking questions about your son and the others. that's going to be all the time we have today. we're going to see all of you next week.
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>> announcer: this is the "cbs overnight news." we begin tonight with the war in gaza. today israel withdrew most of its ground troops out of the besieged territory. it happened exactly six months to the day that hamas militants launched a surpr