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seconds they were able to play of that video. more than 8 minutes in their d video, which is what she just my heart was beating so fast. i was anxious, anxiety through the roof. blue to know guilty on all three charges, thank you, god, thank you. and we heard her testify on that witness stand that she has felt guilty since that memorial day in south minneapolis, that she was not able to do more and today you as you heard right there, she is so grateful, she says, for guilty on all three charges. >> and i think the other witnesses who came forward will also feel some sort of re cannoe floyd back, but i think for the other witnesses who said that they wished they had done more, obviously the fact that they came in and they testified, they made a difference and the jury
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heard them loudly and clearly. and it was very smart on the part of the prosecution to bring that back in to his closing statement, because the jury really needed to hear that. and i'm grateful that darnella frazier learned that this was a guilty verdict on all counts and that she's relieved and i'm hoping and thinking that the others in that crowd will have some sense of relief and the family, also, will have some sense of relief, obviously they'll never be the same again, but i do think that having this guilty verdict really makes a difference. i remember when george floyd's daughter was being held up on, i think it was her uncle's shoulders and she said, my father made a difference. her father really has made a difference. this is clearly a tipping point, and i think perhaps going forward we will see more guilty verdicts, when the evidence supports exactly that. >> terri austin with us from the law and crime network. terri, thank you. and stick with us here, as our
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coverage continues. we are just learning at this hour of a statement from former president barack obama and i know we're expecting a statement later this evening from president biden and from vice president kamala harris. president obama saying, today, the jury did the right thing. for almost a year, george floyd's death under the knee of a police officer has reverberate around the world, inspiring murals, marches, sparking conversations in living rooms and new legislation. the former president says, but a more basic question has always remained -- would justice be done? in this case, at least, we have our answer. and he said, michelle and i send our prayers to the floyd family. that just in from former bama o verdict in minneapolis late today. i want to bring in linsey davis, who is on the ground in minneapolis with us, our sunday night anchor, of course, and the anchor of abc news live. and linsey, you were telling us earlier that you heard it, you could sense it almost immediately, the relief in minneapolis.
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>> quite a bit of calm now. you can imagine, at least, that the businesses will be able to take the boards down, perhaps the million dollars that hennepin county spent on security, perhaps that was all for naught. and just this palpable sense that you could feel this was a city on edge. all of a sudden now is just kind of a collective calm, if you will. but you know, certainly the potential for riot was there. if history is any indicator, if you look at, in the case of arthur mcduff phefie in 1979, i wasn't until 1980, after the officers were acquitted that the s t same thg.ody ng i he was beaten in 1991, but the riot happened in l.a. in 1992. and as we heard from the minnesota governor, who was ramping up, preparing for all possibilities, he was trying to allow for people to say, hey, look, it may not just be that
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this is anger, that this is riot, that in this case this is pain and heartbreak. as martin lut king said, he talked about how a riot is the language of the unheard. and so, perhaps, david, today no riot, perhaps people are feeling heard. >> not only there in minneapolis, but perhaps a sense of relief across this nation that there is relative calm after a very lengthy trial, three weeks, 14 days of testimony over the course of those three weeks. and after a year of a racial reckoning, long overdue conversation in this country about race, justice, policing in this country and very serious questions about how we bridge the divide, how we keep the conversation going, how we b begin, as the floyd family said right after this verdict, the next chapter. rachel scott alluding to and kenneth moton reporting on their hope there will be legislation that pushes the conversation forward with continued reform in
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this country. terrence floyd, the brother of george floyd, one member of the family who has been out with protesters, we have video that's just come in of him reacting with loved ones, as we saw earlier, so many of the loved ones watching very closely from george floyd's family. we are told that terrence floyd reacting to the news with emotion and joy, that his brother has seen justice. >> yes! >> signed jury foreperson, juror number samecaption, vdi cou we the jury third degree murder, find the defendant guilty. >> yeah. come on now. one more time. come on. >> as we have seen in these reactions, they watched, along with america, that pause in between each of the charges.
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and now the tears, as the family recognizes that that jury listened to three weeks of testimony and found derek chauvin guilty on all of the charges in this case. i remember back in brooklyn, the family gathered there almost a year ago, floyd telling me he was moved by the crowd. i remember him saying black, white, asian-american, latino, that that meant so much to the floyd family, that this -- this was a call and a conversation being driven by families in small towns and cities across america, that this was a united conversation. this is black lives matter p plaza, an image of someone kneeling there after the verdict and we heard rachel scott report earlier that she was particularly moved by the reaction as it came in and martha raddatz, also, watching this along with us in washington and martha, you were out covering the streets shortly after this tragedy unfolded last
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memorial day and the juxtaposition between the police presence and the families from all different backgrounds and there was -- even though such heartbreak at the time, also hope on some level from everybody that we would be able to move this conversation forward. >> absolutely, david. and, you know, i walked down to black lives matter plaza a few hours before the verdict came in. it's a beautiful day in washington, as you can see from that photograph. you look behind that photograph, that's the white house. and i couldn't help think of those moments last year when they attacked protesters, when police went after those protesters in black lives matter plaza, before it was named that, and the progress that has been made. those police officers told not to respond like that anymore, to be far more careful. there was a helicopter hovering
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over the protesters that night. those helicopter crews have been disciplined in some way. but i also think about what you said at the very beginning of our coverage today, david, that it was a reckoning of race, justice and policing and we have talked about that so much this afternoon, but when i listen to that defense attorney, in particular yesterday, talk about derek chauvin and what he did during that period of time with george floyd, he talked about george floyd as if he was an enemy. not a citizen. an enemy. not a civilian. an enemy. and talked about how derek chauvin kept responding in different ways and had to reassess and figure out what was going on and that angry crowd -- the job of police, said the prosecutor, is to protect with courage, to serve with compassion. and also, david, i just want to talk about that video and sunny hostin so beautifully talked about the history of this and
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seeing that rodney king video. this video of george floyd was so intimate. it made the difference in this case. and i can't help thinking how many cases are out there where there isn't video. that's the progress this nation needs. that's what we need to see. just a few weeks ago, an army veteran, who was in uniform, was pulled over for some minor violation, he had both hands out the window. you could tell he was terrified. african-american officer in the army and he was pepper sprayed. there is video of that, thankfully he wasn't injured beyond that, but those videos make such a powerful difference, but again, we hope that some day as a country this different happen even if there is no video. >> well, martha raddatz makes an interesting point there when she talks about the defense attorney in the closing argument yesterday and his treatment
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through words of george floyd on that ground. you know, it was the defense attorney's choice to play that video over and over again as he tried to make his closing argument, and there will be debate moving forward about whether or not that helped or hurt, actually, with jurors watching that all over again. extraordinarily difficult video, watching george floyd on the ground and as the prosecution then rebutted that moment, martha, reacting the same way that you just described, by saying that in custody means in the care of, in the care of police there that day in south minneapolis and part of the reaction to the defense's closing argument, too, the defense attorney trying to say you have to take into account what came before those nine minutes. prosecution simply saying that derek chauvin had nine minutes on top of george floyd to reassess over and over again whether or not that was necessary for us and obviously
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the jury deciding unanimouslyn o time tha was e vlated policy and that they agreed with not only the police chief, but several police witnesses who came forward in this case, in a very rare move, to testify against one of their own. i want to bring in alex perez, because we talked to much about the jurors here and alex, you know the extraordinary measures that they took in minneapolis to protect those jurors, to guide them out with a heavy security presence and then once the deliberations began, obviously, sequestered in a hotel somewhere there in minneapolis, but i was struck by what the judge said there when he thanked those jurors, he said, thank you for your service, for your heavy duty jury service. >> yeah, david, the judge throughout this entire trial made it a point to make sure that the jury is a priority, that they're going to be giving these very important instructions that they need to follow and they want the
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attorneys and everyone else to abide by the rules. they were escorted in and out of the courtroom every day throughout this trial, out of the public's view. as you mentioned, once they began deliberating, they were sequestered. and so the judge charged them with this task of reaching the decision in this case. and he was very careful, telling them not to watch the news, not to follow social media. to make sure that theiry're focusing on the facts. he thanked them at the end, because i think he believes they listened to him and they followed all of those rules and in a case like this one, where the pressure is really so high, i think he was grateful to them for their service. and david, you know, we've been seeing the images of george floyd square, all of those people gathering there and i think that's one of the things that sort of stood out from those closing arguments yesterday. the prosecutor took this case, they had this video that we've all seen, but they didn't rely just on the video. they brought in all of these people who were in that neighborhood, who recorded these images and they let the jury
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meet them through their testimony. minute by minute, they explained what they saw happening in that neighborhood. and we saw the defense attorney during his closing arguments try to discredit some of those witnesses, saying, you know, this is a high crime neighborhood, sort of casting some sort of doubt on what these people were saying. but we had the video, we saw the images and i think the jury had made up their mind, they knew who those voices were that you heard on those images in that video, they knew who those people were and they knew they were trying to help someone who was in need of help in that moment. something that they do not believe derek chauvin did for george floyd when all of this unfolded. i heard people there at george floyd square right after this all happened, david, they started screaming, the healing begin." as we've been seeing all of this unfold over the last year, these protests across the country, people are angry, there's a lot of emotion, they want to see change, but at the end of it, i always remember people saying, i
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want us to heal. i want us to move forward as one. and perhaps, perhaps, just perhaps, this verdict that we saw today, this could be the beginning of that, david. >> alex perez reporting from the very beginning of this case in minneapolis and then throughout the trial, reporting there just moments ago. let the healing begin, were the words that he heard there in minneapolis following this verdict. there is reaction coming in from all over the world, as we await public comment from president biden and vice president kamala harris. the white house indicating a short time ago that they will be speaking in the hour or hours ahead here this evening, if and when they speak, we, of course, will bring it to you right away. in the meantime, we've heard from former president barack obama and we're now hearing from leaders overseas. british prime minister boris johnson reacting moments ago, saying, i was appalled by the death of george floyd and welcome this verdict. my thoughts tonight are with george floyd's family and friends. and this is ben crump you're looking at, he's become a familiar face in this case,
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let's listen. representing the family of george floyd. >> attorney justin miller. attorney madeleine simmons. a great minnesota lawyer. attorney jeff storms, attorney michelle gadot. and who else we got here? anybody else? we have attorney scott masterson who is not present, attorney -- i said martichelle, i got miche. just a great group of lawyers. and i want to let you know who we have present here with the family here in minneapolis for this historic day. we have george floyd's brothers, we have philonise, we have rodney floyd, we have brandon williams, who is george floyd's
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nephew but was more like a son to him, they call him woo back in the third ward, woo-woo. we have kina -- erterrence, whe you at? we got terrence floyd, his sisters who are not with us, but we should absolutely acknowledge bridget floyd, who hails from north carolina, his sisters latonia and jaja who hail from houston, texas. we have his cousins. and we have the mother of his g washington and we have gianna.
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and so, i'll make some brief remarks and then we're going to have attorney stewart -- angela, cousin paris and uncle vince. all right. anymore floyd family? i know it's a big crew. a.d., the man he came to minneapolis with. so, i'll make some brief remarks and then we're going to have attorney stewart make some brief remarks and then we're going to hear from this family and we're going to try to leave here today knowing that -- >> on the monitor, the reverend al sharpton joining ben crump. let's listen to this for a
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moment. >> let's pause for a moment to proclaim this historical moment not just for the legacy of george floyd, but for the legacy of america. the legacy of trying to make america for all americans. so that george floyd's victory and america's quest for equal justice under the law will be intertwined. america, let's frame this moment as a moment where we finally are getting close to living up to our declaration of independence, that we hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equally, that they're endowed by their creator with
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certain inalienable rights that amongst them are life and liberty and the pursuit of happiness. well, america, that means all of us. that means black people. that means hispanic people. that means native people. that means asian people. that means all of us, america. we frame this moment for all of us, not just for george floyd. this is a victory for those who champion humanity over inhumanity. those who champion justice over injustice. those who champion morals over immorality. ame america, let's lean into this moment. and let's make sure reverend al that this moment will be documented for our children yet unborn, as they continue on the
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journey to justice, knowing that the blood of george floyd will give them a trail to find a way to a better america, a more just america. a more just america where breonna taylor gets an opportunity to sleep in peace at night without the police busting in her front door. a more just america where ahmaud arbery gets to run free and not be lynched for jogging while black. a more just america where jacob blake and anthony mcclain and walter scott and laquan mcdonald and all these other black men, terence crutcher, who were shot in the back while running away
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like daunte wright was just a week ago, because for some reason, black men running away from the police is more dangerous than young white men who commit mass murders and walk towards the police with an assault weapon, like kyle rittenhouse in kenosha, wisconsin. america, let this be the precedent. let this be the precedent, where we live up to the high ideals and thepromises, when we say liberty and zwjustice for all. those sunkissed children are included in all. those children who overcame slavery, the middle passage, the dread scott decision, jim crow,
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and his much smarter, wiser son, jim crow jr. esquire. let this be the precedent where we overcome sis mat you can racism and oppression and that we are a better people and we will leave our children a better world. >> ben crump talking about leaving our children with a better world, hoping that this verdict that we received today from that jury in minneapolis is the beginning of the next and equally as important chapter in american history. i want to bring in steve osunsami, our senior national correspondent, who has been watching this along with me all day long, and for the better part of a year now. and steve, i think ben crump certainly had some powerful words there and most important is when he talks about all of the other families have been linked, not because they wanted to be, but have been linked but the same kind of heartbreak. i remember ahmaud arbery's mother, she attended the funeral
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of george floyd and said, i never end tended to have this bond with these other mothers, but here i am, and we must speak with one voice. >> you know, it's an unfortunate club now. ahmaud arbery, rashad brooks, sandra bland. there are so many names now, i can't remember them all. we've been covering these for so, so many years and one of the things that, you know, we heard this attorney just say is that this was a victory earned through pain, through the pain of these families, through the pain of americans who are afraid every time they see a police pull up behind them, worried that a police encounter might turn south. martha raddatz mentioned that incident with the -- with the soldier who was in virginia, who was seen in his army fatigues with his hands up, still being
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maced by the police officer. and, you know, i want to show everyone in america watching, the one thing that's made the difference over the course of time, the one thing that's made the difference are these things, cell phones. where these incidents have been able to be documented. we would tell our teachers and other authority figures about the way that we would be often treated by police and no one would believe us. because there was nothing to document it. you just had to go on the word of a young black man. well, in america today, there are now these devices that document this, that show what's happening in the streets, that make it hard to change the narrative or change the story. we talk a lot about reconciliation and healing, that only happens when we start speaking the truth about what's really happening in america.
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and that is what is happening today. david? >> steve osunsami talking about the power of darnella frazier's video that she captured, the 9 minutes, 29 seconds seen here in world.ountry and across the - the mass protests, not just in the united states, but in cities really all over the world. we saw images coming in of george floyd in the aftermath of what we saw from darnella frazier's video and as steve rightly points out, so much of what we cover now comes to light through the technology that we simply carry around in our hands. i want to bring in cecilia vega, because i know we await potential word from president biden and the vice president tonight, but we're getting a transcript of the phone call between president biden and george floyd's family. i know he reached out to george floyd's family right after the verdict was delivered, cecilia. >> and that call, i'll told, david, was made from the oval office, with the president, the vice president, the first lady and we listend to that call, we
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were able to hear it because the cameras were there and the president called this verdict justice. he said that we are all relieved by what happened there today, though the president did convey the message that he understands that nothing will make this better. the president said that he watched every second of this and we know that he watched this verdict come down from inside the dining room here at the white house with the vice president and staff. but take a listen, david, to some of the -- a little bit of this phone call that we heard the president make to the floyd family just earlier today. >> feeling better now. nothing is going to make it all better, but at least now there's some justice. >> right. >> and, you know, i think -- i think of gianna, my daddy's going to change the world, it's going to change it now. >> amen. >> it's going to change it now. >> yes. >> you're an incredible family,
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i wish i was there to put my arms around you. we've been watching every second of this, the vice president and all of us and i'm just -- we're all so relieved, not just one verdict, but guilty on all three counts and it's really important. i'm anxious to see you guys. i really am. we're going to get a lot more done, we're going to get -- we're going to do a lot. we're going to stay at it until we get it done. >> hopefully this is the momentum for the george floyd and policing act to get passed and have you sign. >> you got it, pal. that and a lot more. not just that. a lot more. >> thank you, mr. president. >> well, this is going to be our first shot dealing at genuine systemic racism. >> what we're witnessing is one side of that call. george floyd's family in the hallway there at the trial just after the verdict on the other side, as you describe, president
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biden, the vice president and the first lady from right there in the oval office. >> and david, it's important, i think, after having heard that conversation, just give our viewers a little bit of an understanding of what this george floyd justice in policing act is, where it stands and what it would be. in the wake of george floyd's death in 2020. this would ban chokeholds and no-knock warrants. mandate deadly force be used only as a last resort and it would set up a national registry for police misconduct. but it passed in the house, but right now, it is stalled in the senate. republicans, their complaint about this act is that the bill would weaken law enforcement and put officers at risk. but this clearly is something that the white house stands firmly behind. the question is whether there's a political appetite to move this out of capitol hill, out of the house, frankly, where democrats control the house, and into law, to get on the president's desk. you heard the president say right now that this is our -- this will be our first shot at
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dealing with genuine systemic racism. i do believe that is the appetite of this white house and appetite of this white house and certainly of this president.
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good evening again, everyone. and it is great to have you with us on history made in this country. the verdict coming in late this afternoon from minneapolis. former minneapolis police officer derek chauvin found guilty on all three charges in the death of george floyd, nearly a year ago. it was memorial day last year. the jury coming to a swift, unanimous decision after just 10 1/2 hours of deliberation. intense anticipation across the country you waiting to hear, and then the verdict came in. the camera trained on derek chauvin's face as the judge read the decision. guilty of second degree murder. guilty of third degree murder

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