[000:00:00;00] it bans the world's most popular social network in america , so let me ask mr. tafanji, mr. tafanji , the point and topic that mr. elami mentions is a video-based social network that has entertainment and utility. an important security issue for american statesmen. well, first of all, i say hello and good night to all the program agents and viewers. dear sirs, i would like to approve one point. the 170 million people who say that the user population is in america, not in the world. now the reason why it has been banned and the reason

they are looking for now to ban it is the discussion of sales. and the transfer of data by tik tok to the outside of the data of american users to the outside of this environment , the most important argument they have is that they say that from the beginning , the discussion, now the war has actually started , has shown too much content to american users. it is possible that it is actually related to the palestinians and they want to influence them and so on. another issue is that i mentioned that the issue of location-based data transfer was mentioned more in this period of time. did it happen before? there are other reasons for this issue following the state debate that said, ms. reporter, yes , ms. rahnam, ms. rahnam, greetings to you, the issue that she said was a debate that happened in about 25 states of the united states and tik tok

was banned for students. he has had too much and has not been able to manage himself. i have warned him many times and it is just that he is not filtered by america and this application . now there are a lot of criticisms about this decision many users came to say that this is against the freedom of expression in social media and with an excuse , it is a foundation that we will continue to censor

more in social media. let's see it. i will come back to you, mr. elami. from your point of view, the reason why a video-oriented social network becomes an entertainment feature is an important security issue that the us house of representatives wants to address and pass a bill. i realized that we have 170 million monthly users, so my dear friend, please enter and see how many concepts we have, a number of registers. the number of users who log in and register . the number of monthly active users . the number of weekly active users . the number of daily active users. the number of people who install it is a few tens of times this number. now this number is 170. if we want to say how many weekly it will be less . it will probably be around 10-20 million and daily is usually

less. probably 506 million exact statistics have not been announced, see this point, we have no compliments at all let's consider the same 170 million monthly users . see, the number is not a small number, it is a very large number. maybe if we had said a year ago that america is sensitive about the governance of its cyberspace, maybe no one would have accepted it, or if 20 people had accepted it, probably 10 of us would have disagreed. they keep saying no, america has nothing to do with these things, in america there is freedom of speech and according to that. the law of the united states of america is the user who chooses what content he has access to and how to use it. the government does not decide whether you should see this or not. until today , everyone thought this way. it happened and this circus was started and this investigation session started in the senate. what happened was that we saw that they

are violating their own user rights in all the cases that they say, and entering into these issues in the form of protection . the security of information and the protection of users' privacy , so the safe reality is that we leave this layer of content aside. if we want to say that america is sensitive to obscene and obscene content , so it has come to its hands. let's talk about his own platforms, yes, but the reality is that no, it's clear, now that we know it, it's very interesting, about 170 people, about 170 democrats, about 160 republicans, they all came unanimously and agreed that it should be blocked and banned in america, mrs. rahnema, you are still with us, this is the point. hey , mr. elmia, referring to the debates and issues that were raised in cyberspace governance in america, and everything that was raised in these discussions has now

been questioned by the us government in the senate, and somehow it doesn't match your opinion and that. that mr. thangchi mentioned, see, i have a point first i would like to say that what was approved today in the house of representatives has been approved by the house of representatives. the next step is to approve or vote in the senate . in fact, it has become the issue of national security. it may not be a bad thing to refer to the positions of the american representatives themselves a few days ago. in fact, this bill, which was approved today in the house of representatives, was discussed in a subcommittee called the trade and energy committee. in fact , the us congress was voted and all its members

the committee on this bill went to vote on the initial draft of the bill on the american network cnn. a live communication was conducted to analyze the various aspects of the issue from one of these representatives, who was actually the chairman of the china affairs committee of the us house of representatives. he said that because this social network actually has a foreign parent company and this is not an issue that we are talking about, it means that governance is not actually a user-heavy platform full of american users. that we are ready to leave it to a foreign company, and that is chinese, means that i want to say it very frankly and i want to say it in simple terms. what he meant was that, sir , our virtual governance

should not be in the hands of a platform or platform that is affiliated with a foreign company, so mrs. rahma, we can conclude that what you are referring to now is related to the war in gaza and access to the reality of american users became more prominent in palestine and gaza, but before that for the same reasons you have. you mention that it was also mentioned in america. we can say that it has a big argument and it is not giving over, in fact, public opinion is a significant part of public opinion to a company that has a foreign shareholder. mainly, but besides that, yes, there may be other issues, such as algorithms that show content that the american government does not like, and other things may be raised against that big issue. i made it a foreign company, see now this parent company of tik tok, which is accused of byte dance , is not an entirely chinese company, that is, tik tok itself has explained with a document that yes

, the original founder was chinese, but now 60% of it is in the hands of three international companies. all three of which are located in america, 20% of which are by employees of byte there are dances that have different nationalities and bodies. actually, 20% of this company is owned by a chinese founder , and that person is also an individual from the private sector , not a government person. well, i will come back to you, mr. tafangchi, to point out one point about the positions and views of the american authorities towards tic. talk about the american officials about the misuse of the data of american users . i would like to tell you one thing , this is a must, they themselves have said many times that this is the first stage, in the end, because many of tik tok users came to protest and in fact , different tendencies came to say that we want to use this program. in

the end, it is possible that the case will reach the supreme court and its decision will actually be overturned . there is also the fact that it is not implemented. there is also another point. there are recommended points that now, actually, friends, actually , now, madam, the people who say this are the same people as in other countries, if it is an application. if it is limited or blocked , they will protest quickly, i told everyone about this now decisions are being made, they criticize that sir, no matter what is happening in it, you are blocking the freedom of expression on social media, and there is complete opposition to this decision of the policy makers . republicans and democrats that even mr. trump came back a few days ago and announced that it can

become a big danger for us, there is a problem that should be addressed separately in the topic of politics and governance, in fact it is data-driven and cyber governance. if we are going to prescribe a prescription, not for ourselves we are liked, why do we like to be liked by others, and in the discussion of the company, in fact, again, madam, i am referring to the same point in the opinion of mr. elmiye rome, and i want to ask why an issue in the virtual space becomes a point of commonality between republicans and mr. again, i repeat, the problem is very simple. there is no difference between cyberspace governance and cyberspace governance. now in the world, its importance has become more serious from the bottom of the society, and they are seeing this issue , they see that their youth, their youth. it was a 5-hour meeting that was asked in that interrogation session . friends, search on the internet and you will definitely see the piece a lot of them. they are saying that you are causing

the thoughts of our young people to deviate. this deviation is not only a moral deviation, it is also a political deviation , it is a social deviation . you can see the effect of space. and if culture is important in this country , it should be important to them. in my opinion, it should not be bold at all, but it should be pointed out many times, saying that sir, all the people who are actually taking a stand on this, that is, the politicians who are acting , have been pointed out many times. sir, this is a political theater that is, sir, they are saying that the circus is right , they are saying that it is also being discussed in the media literature that this is a political theater, that they are just running a game in the name of saying that we want to manage the cultural apparatus, and in fact , there is data out there. can they want to apply their own restrictive rules ? in cyber space, you constantly

review these news, report and produce news content in the sada vasima news agency about the discussion we had and mr. elami mentioned the documents. how is our news ? ask your question a little more clearly . you see, it may be possible to borrow from some of these hearings, which the respected expert of the program now calls mock hearings . attending some of these platforms, including tik tok, in these hearings, they are warned to be present. pictures of their children facing away. they

dare to say that my child was a victim of being on this social platform. this is a scene that may affect many american users or many american audiences and convince them to accept that yes, if you have a hard time regarding the activity of this dog, then you are right, but there is another layer of this story that can be analyzed. it is also the fact that, for example, in the media positions, in fact, the american media, if we analyze this issue , we will see that they invite different representatives. in the discussion, some of these representatives say things that are different from those special media programs, such as the story of the hearings , for example, that the representatives, now , i do not have the presence of mind, but with these keywords , if you search yes, the audience can find, sometimes

there are representatives that if the data of our users can be seen by a company that has foreign shareholders, it looks like it is seeing very confidential information related to our national security, because our public opinion is being monitored. this issue has a political meaning, this is the story of being worried because our public opinion is a foreigner or a company with foreign shareholders. he does or is making an estimate of it. this issue has a more political meaning than trying to be a cultural issue. or the subject of another issue that i mentioned to you, this direct reference to why a foreign company or a company with foreign shareholders should actually make the popular platform in america its own, some of these positions in summary show much more clearly that yes cultural issues are in place, but

there are a series of security and political concerns that are sometimes in the museum the statements of american representatives or the american media are more openly mentioned, mr. elmi. the claims made by the american authorities about tik tok do not apply to america's own social networks. now, according to the points mentioned by ms. rahnava, let's see which part of their claims, if it is a question of protecting security and privacy, let them read this excuse. well , in the same meeting, the tik tok ceo said very frankly , sir, that all the data that i brought

, all the personnel of that department, are in the american soil. american, european, we give access to the information we have in our phone or interactions that we are talking to people in the virtual space, this is a part of the story, a part of the information and content that we see, it can be completely engineered today , very simple. search 2 cat food sites, then enter 3 or 4 sites. iranians who sell different products and you can see in the market place of the online store that they offer you cat food . this is the simplest example. now some friends are surprised and say, for example, i have renault, i search for a certain renault car model

, then i go to another site and see that it has the same car model . i suggest it in applications such as instagram, youtube, and tik tok . based on your taste and interest , they will start showing you interesting content so that, so to speak, we call it user engagement , they will engage the user with themselves. he should waste 3 hours of his time see what is happening, so that layer is information security. if we put it aside for a minute , it is very important. god willing, our leaders will also learn from these mps that we do not have a law in this area to this day. if there is a broken filtering system. which causes dissatisfaction more than it is efficient and works and has results, we see that we don't have any laws, we sat down to pass a law that if

a certain foreign platform works in iran, what should we do and what should we do let it work even now, thank god, how long have you been? fairly good things have happened. i saw that the ministry of communications came to establish wireless internet presence in iran and put rules . well, america or even europe, now in the european union, in the course of another year, we are involved in dse and dma

digital laws. a phone is now forced to allow users in the european union to use applications and... we are talking about it today. the basics of market economy are not contradictory, they are compatible at all. yes, first

, i would like to give an explanation about what your reporter said. if you allow me , the story of the political and cultural ban was raised. it has been cultural in many countries because of the challenges that were held in tik tok, discussions of violence, discussions of sexual abnormalities, these. at the beginning , i said that coming to the discussion of the layer of prohibition, actually bringing it up is a point . america, i'll explain to you, i 'll explain to you, and then it became a political discussion, my political discussion started in 2020, in fact, india was the cause of it. it's enough to continue to see this as a challenge in order to actually say that a series of countries say that this

should not be used in the government apparatus, such as where like the european union, australia, new zealand, the united kingdom , banning these for use in the government apparatus. i am talking about these cultural discussions and these are you again the united states came up with the idea that the ban in 25 states that i mentioned, the ban in 25 states that was connected , the dissatisfactions increased , what was the reason? many of the talents of different stars, for example, especially in the fields of music and culture, can be extracted from tik tok, and we find a lot of genius. sir, this is a fun tool. for students and this don't be forbidden to share with you the root of that cultural and political debate, i told you the root or

the excuse, anyway, the root is the root , now i am at your service , i am the key. i told you that the next thing we will come to is youtube and instagram and so on. the debate between meta and youtube companies is very hot right now, because they say that the point is that if tik tok is banned, the most important benefit for meta instagram and google youtube is because it can increase its users. yes, and the discussion of becoming more competitive, which actually

created a competitive atmosphere in spite of tik tok, has actually come up again. in fact, it has been moving in this direction for a few years now. in 2017 , it shows you content that you were already in contact with, that is, you liked it, or you searched for it a few times, you saw it, or your mutual friends, for example, are now in the discussion of social networks or in your search engine searches, for example , how many times have you referred to it, and then when you want to search for a content.

do. there is no reason, there are two cases of closure of these roms. pay attention, see, i don't want to defend you in any way, i just want to explain . one explanation that exists is that you are talking from the time before corona. more restrictions should be created

. of course, in my opinion , it was a bit defensive, but thank you for your correct point of view . let's see something. we don't have any complaints . leave a comment , leave it to the american company. it should be handed over to an american company, what will happen if there is nothing now, when the owners of the infrastructure in america will agree to the handover. i think it is very unlikely, that is, one -fifth of tik tok users are in america, but they are in other parts of the world, so now even if i want to lose the market , i want to lose the market. in iran, we use a lot of applications that we should not use in america, and it is also prohibited, even if the user is an end user. he can find a way to use

it, see this point. it is important to pay attention to this , to analyze a little , to examine why it is said that it should be handed over to an american company , what will happen in this handover, the events that have happened now, well, i said, american personnel , american infrastructure, american databases , american data centers, everything is there. there is no such thing as what happens in handing over , see the senior management and strategy. today, if i have to give a very simple example, i will say

a riot on instagram to the manager. we asked you to delete some content and you you did this by delaying, why did it take so many hours, how many hours did it take, see this double behavior, this contradiction in the encounter, if it should be managed and deleted quickly, then why are there places where the user comes to report and reports on instagram and facebook and nothing will happen, it will not be touched, but here you expect an international company that is now operating in the united states , see, again, i repeat, they have no compliments in the world when it comes to the psychological security of their people and the issue of the governance of cyber space, and they do not allow their people to stand firm. they don't allow their country to suffer now no matter how much this government policy is right or wrong

, the world has to stand by this story. it will go in this direction, all the countries are looking for this. i said that the law of the european union shows that in the european union it is decided not to allow the governance to be in the hands of the platforms and the system is the government and the policy is to decide what will happen. thank you very much, dr. ilmia, thank you, mr. tefang chi, sorry for one point. the last point is that speaking correctly today is another issue in the same governance in america. it was brought up that hoshmin's governance is actually emphasizing the same point thank you, mr. tafanchi, for your presence and explanations . i am grateful to mrs. rahnama, who accompanied us from another studio. as always, i am grateful

for your good company every night. good night and god bless you. in the name of god, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the world. today, in the first case, in tonight's program , we are investigating today's terrorist attack by the zionist regime on a vehicle carrying a member of hamas in lebanon. in the second case, we will go to chabahar to talk with the spokesman of the joint naval exercise between iran, russia and china