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we go >> ready, britain. here we go. terrorist sleeper cells could be ready to kill brits . ready to kill brits. next. >> the news at just after 9:00. and our top story tonight. labouris and our top story tonight. labour is urging the government to stop what it's calling the headline. chasing gimmicks. with its controversial rwanda bill, mps are currently in the house of commons debating amendments proposed by the house of lords and they include exempting uk overseas employees , such as overseas employees, such as afghan interpreters, from being sent to the central african country and checking the age of those being removed . the shadow those being removed. the shadow home office minister, stephen kinnock, has said tonight the scheme is doomed to fail. meanwhile, the conservative mp sir william cash has dubbed the
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changes ridiculous and said the lords need to calm down a bit . lords need to calm down a bit. meanwhile, the prime minister's been calling today. the israeli leader, and appealing to him to show restraint following iran's drone and missile attack. earlier, rishi sunak told the commons that on the phone call, he'll be reiterating the uk's solidarity with israel, but also discussing to how prevent any further escalation of violence in the middle east. and there was condemnation of iran's military offensive against israel from both sir keir starmer and rishi sunak in the commons today. >> our aim is to support stability and security because it is right for the region and because although the middle east is thousands of miles away, it has a direct effect on our security and prosperity at home. >> there can be no doubt that the attack perpetrated by iranian forces this weekend has left the world a more dangerous place. it targeted innocent
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civilians with a clear intent to destabilise the region. it must be wholly condemned by all. sir keir starmer, now a judge, today ordered prince harry to pay 90% of home office legal costs after losing a case over his personal security . security. >> the duke of sussex had argued the court should reduce the amount he was required to pay by more than half. he launched legal action against the home office for cutting his police protection squad after he stopped full time stopped being a full time working member the royal working member of the royal family in the united states. donald trump has lost a second bid to remove the judge in his so—called hush money criminal trial. he claimed the presiding judge had a conflict of interest because his daughter worked for a political consulting firm with the democratic party . the former the democratic party. the former us president has been charged in connection with a case involving hush money paid to an adult film
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star. each charge could mean four years in prison if he was ever convicted, but it's much more likely mr trump will be fined instead if he is found guilty . arriving at the court guilty. arriving at the court earlier, he described the start of the trial as an assault on america and finally a suspected tornado has ripped through a staffordshire village today . staffordshire village today. yes, a tornado roof tiles were dislodged. we and those smashed by flying debris and vehicles hit as gale force winds hit knutton near stoke on trent. there was also strong gusts in nottinghamshire as well. all happened earlier on this morning, affecting several properties. roads were cordoned off by staffordshire fire and rescue service as it worked to make those homes safe. what unpredictable april weather we're having. for the latest stories do sign up to gb news alerts. scan the qr code on your screen right now or go to gb news. common alerts .
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news. common alerts. >> iran has been at war with us for decades. they have militant sleeper cells in britain ready to rise up and attack us. and the taxpayer has been funding them. that's the allegation this is the very definition of a trojan horse on saturday night, iran sent more than 300 missiles and drones to israel. 99% of them were intercepted . but it's them were intercepted. but it's been sending another kind of weapon to us here in britain, radical islamist clerics. they have a base right here in the uk. that base is the islamic centre of england in maida vale, london. but its tentacles are spread out around the country. it's director is appointed by iran's ayatollah khomeini . the iran's ayatollah khomeini. the uk has granted 100 visas to iranian religious figures since 2005, with 21 of them issued to clerics who are trained by and must remain loyal to, the
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islamic republic of iran . we islamic republic of iran. we have been granting visas to signed up members of a violent, totalitarian, despotic islamist regime , they reportedly want to regime, they reportedly want to impose blasphemy laws in britain and have organised protests outside cinemas showing a film called the lady of heaven involving the daughter of the prophet muhammad, batley grammar school, where a teacher showed a picture of the prophet to some kids, and in wakefield, where an autistic boy dared to scuff a copy of quran and his mum copy of the quran and his mum had for forgiveness from had to beg for forgiveness from the mosque. the islamic the local mosque. the islamic centre of england's directors since 1994 have all been named as representatives in the uk of iran's supreme leader. they have vigils for qassem soleimani, the head of the islamic revolutionary guard corps. apparently he's a great martyr. as if this wasn't bad enough, we've allowed the islamic centre of england to become a registered charity. it has more than £4.2 million in reserves, reportedly , and the taxpayer reportedly, and the taxpayer even forked out for furlough
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money for it during covid to the tune of a quarter of £1 million. iran is trying to influence political , iran is trying to influence political, religious, educational and cultural organisations as well as whip up protests, and they can do it because we grant them visas, allow them to freely travel back and forth between tehran and england , and even let the england, and even let the taxpayer pay their wages . now, taxpayer pay their wages. now, earlier, i spoke to british iranian broadcaster mahyar tousi and i asked him how big a threat the islamic centre of england really is. >> well, it's extremely dangerous , mostly because we dangerous, mostly because we just have to listen to them. they're not even lying about their intentions. since 1979, their intentions. since 1979, the islamic regime declared essentially war against britain, israel and america . imagine if israel and america. imagine if we had a the islamic centre version of the nazi party in 1938 39. in london, they literally declared us as enemy. and not only were allowing them to infiltrate our systems, they are causing disruptions, but
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they also stole our taxpayers money during the lockdown using the furlough scheme . why were we the furlough scheme. why were we paying the furlough scheme. why were we paying them .7 paying them? >> i then asked mayor if we had imported an ideology that thousands of people like his mum actually fled from. >> we literally have clerics , >> we literally have clerics, the supporters of the islamic repubuc the supporters of the islamic republic of iran, who are fine in iran. they're not fleeing anything. my mother was a political refugee from iran, and she was actually an accidental traditional refugee. the embassy helped her in tehran. she's absolutely frustrated and baffled, saying that people i ran away from and the british state helped me to run away from are now here. they are following us and apparently they've been welcomed by the liberal society . welcomed by the liberal society. >> he then laid bare the very real threat this country might face from iranian sleeper cells . face from iranian sleeper cells. >> if the situation in the middle east escalate, and the people in iran who are doing the uprising with the help of israel, could actually win that battle the islamic battle against the islamic occupiers iran when they are
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occupiers in iran when they are drowning, they're going to bring us them. they have us down with them. they have their people everywhere in paris, in london, in washington , paris, in london, in washington, dc, in toronto. they're going to wake that they're to wake up that they're going to cause they're not going to cause this. they're not going to win, they're going cause win, but they're going to cause enough disruption so the enough disruption and so the fear that we have is that any sort of version world sort of version of world war conflicts iii conflicts like world war iii will internal all our will be internal in all our countries, at once. it won't countries, all at once. it won't be tanks crossing borders. it's because enemy is already because the enemy is already here, here to harm us. here, and it's here to harm us. >> trojan horse is real. it >> the trojan horse is real. it is here. we let it in. it is time to deport that trojan horse right now. these people are not here to assimilate . they are not here to assimilate. they are not here to assimilate. they are not here to assimilate. they are not here to get along with us. they hate us. they hate our way of life, and they want to eradicate us.the life, and they want to eradicate us. the islamic centre of england are yet to respond to our request for comment. let's get the thoughts of my panel this evening. i am joined by columnist carole malone. i've also journalist and also got journalist and broadcaster benjamin butterworth and express political and the daily express political editor sam lister. carole i'll
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start with you. this trojan horse is real. how do we deal with it? these iranian sleeper cells in britain? >> well , cells in britain? >> well, we're cells in britain? >> well , we're not cells in britain? >> well, we're not going to deal with it, are we? >> because we've been letting them in now since 2005. >> these these islamist religious leaders. it is incredible, isn't it, that the government that home government and that the home office the security office and that the security services seem to recognise services don't seem to recognise as an enemy when they see one and iran is our enemy, as you've just they hate they just said, they hate us. they hate our of life. they're hate our way of life. they're clearly trying to infiltrate and influence lots of our institutions educational, political, cultural, and we are letting them get away with it. and it's almost like, you know, it's this ridiculous situation where we're trying not to offend those people who who seek to destroy us. you know, we've got it's that age thing that we it's that age old thing that we don't to offend people who don't want to offend people who follow the islamic faith don't mind about other religions, but particularly faith. particularly the islamic faith. and just astonishing and i just find it astonishing that government aren't even that the government aren't even now doing anything to stop it. you know, who, you know you know, people who, you know and quran, you know, is and also the quran, you know, is very clear about, people who
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come to live in country come to live in this country and, and the rules that they're supposed to follow, the cultural rules and laws of the land that they've settled in. and clearly , they've settled in. and clearly, these people from around do not want to do that. and they're seeking to change it. >> benjamin, we've been granting visas who are directly visas to people who are directly appointed ayatollah in appointed by, the ayatollah in iran who are coming here with the express intention of furthering iran's militant and fundamentalist aims right in the heart of london. you know, it's right in maida vale there the islamic centre of england. why have we turned a blind eye to this for so long? >> i think because we're incredibly naive . i mean, i incredibly naive. i mean, i started investigating this about two years ago, and i spoke to a woman who infiltrated the revolutionary guards regime in iran, and she said that she saw lists of people in this country, mainly jews and iranian diaspora, that they were setting about to assassinate it. and since then, we've seen that happen. just three weeks ago, a
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journalist at iran international was stabbed , and he wasn't the was stabbed, and he wasn't the first time they tried that. i spoke to someone who was leaving their home in central london and men speaking iranian tongue tried to grab him and put him in the back of a van in front of police officers and no consequences came of that. i spoke to a woman who'd been in the same prison as nazanin zaghari—ratcliffe , and she got zaghari—ratcliffe, and she got warnings from iranians based here that support the regime that they were posing as nurses in a hospital, in an nhs hospital, and were going to poison her so that nobody would know, and they would think it was a mistake. and i put all these claims to tom tugendhat, these claims to tom tugendhat, the security minister, along with another one. you talked about schools in your in your monologue, the school of the islamic republic of iran in maida vale, which now being maida vale, which is now being closed. had been closed. but it had been concerned since 2016. ofsted had raised concerns and a year and a half ago a video emerged of children at that school primary school aged children pledging their allegiance iran's
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their allegiance to iran's ayatollah and to attack non—muslims in an apocalyptic war in london. >> they're not trying to hide it . they are not trying to hide. >> and i would just say that, you know, there's only one word to describe the security minister, and that is weak, because before he got his job at the cabinet table, he said they should proscribed as a should be proscribed as a terrorist organisation. and now he even give interviews he won't even give interviews about it. >> paying for this >> but we're paying for this a quarter of £1 million in government covid payments went to the islamic centre of england, which has been branded sam, the nerve centre for iran in the uk. so we are actually paying in the uk. so we are actually paying for the privilege of looking after people who want to kill us. >> taxpayers will be horrified and baffled by that. and i think, you know, i'm incredibly proud of the fact that we are an open, tolerant nation and that's what makes us great. that's a brilliant . it doesn't mean brilliant thing. it doesn't mean that entry to country is a that entry to our country is a free for all. they have to be controlled, and people will rightly ask questions about why these were granted
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these people were granted permission to here. always permission to be here. i always think, flip around the other think, flip it around the other way. priests way. how many catholic priests or the iranian or cv vicars has the iranian regime taken in? and i'm pretty sure it's none . but we will sure it's none. but we will never find out because they're not an open, tolerant regime, but i think on a, on a kind of wider point, obviously , when you wider point, obviously, when you look things like batley and look at things like batley and wakefield, have been wakefield, people have been really down by state really deeply let down by state institutions that the institutions here that the parents should never have been having to beg for forgiveness for child, scuffing the for a child, for scuffing the quran. is this, faith being quran. why is this, faith being given special status in this country ? it's wrong. country? it's wrong. >> can i just come in there on that as well? about about those boys who have scuffed the quran. it is there there are no blasphemy laws in this country. and yet those children were suspended by the school, and also were brought in. you also cops were brought in. you don't. there is no law. there's no need cops to be brought no need for cops to be brought in. you know, kids have been defacing scuffing books defacing books, scuffing books since immemorial. not since time immemorial. it's not a matter. and yet we are a police matter. and yet we are allowing blasphemy laws be allowing blasphemy laws to be practised this country. practised in this country. >> the reason why i want to cut
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across to you is i've just been told we have just received a response from the islamic centre for england. so shall we read through now? since its through this now? since its inception, centre been a inception, the centre has been a vital west london's vital pillar of west london's muslim priding itself muslim community, priding itself on the on fostering unity, serving the community and promoting religious tolerance. it is a charity and is registered as such with the charity commission for england and wales. the charity trustees take their role seriously and the charity operates in accordance with engush operates in accordance with english law in promoting its charitable purposes by delivering an islamic centre and associated educational centre for the communities it serves. our congregation , composed of our congregation, composed of individuals from diverse backgrounds , reflects the backgrounds, reflects the centre's commitment to inclusivity and harmony . it does inclusivity and harmony. it does not exist to further political purposes and does not promote or condone violence, hatred or discrimination of any sort. can i just remind our viewers and listeners that that very site there held a vigil, for an individual there who was a
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qassim soleimani, who was the head of the islamic revolutionary guard corps, who was killed by a drone strike in january. and they director at the time, saeed mousavi, is quoted as describing him as a great martyr, benjamin, there is talk at the moment of categorising now the islamic revolutionary guard corps as a designated terror group, which would conceivably mean that anybody who is at that islamic centre of england, who openly supports the islamic revolutionary guard corps, would be supporting terrorism. would you support that? >> absolutely. and the us did this under trump, and it's remain the way under biden. and the fact that the uk government hasn't done it is insane. rishi sunak and tom tugendhat both said happen when sunak and tom tugendhat both said for happen when sunak and tom tugendhat both said for tory happen when sunak and tom tugendhat both said for tory leader,1 when sunak and tom tugendhat both said for tory leader, and an running for tory leader, and they haven't and i just they haven't done it. and i just had one thing. alicia kearns, chair of home, the foreign chair of the home, the foreign affairs select committee. when i chair of the home, the foreign affathoselect committee. when i chair of the home, the foreign affathose claimsnmittee. when i chair of the home, the foreign affathose claims to ittee. when i chair of the home, the foreign affathose claims to her,�*. when i chair of the home, the foreign affathose claims to her, she1en i put those claims to her, she said tried to said they have tried to assassinate on assassinate british people on british no consequence british soil with no consequence , is why they should be
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, and that is why they should be proscribed a terrorist organisation. >> and that's a senior mp saying that there of senior that there are plenty of senior mps both sides of the house mps on both sides of the house calling for the organisation to be but actually be proscribed. but actually there good reasons why the there are good reasons why the government do so, and government is yet to do so, and they involve the fact that the us cut ties with, in 2019. us cut ties with, iran in 2019. so are that conduit, if you so we are that conduit, if you will, for the us and the west, but also because until our intelligence and security agencies say that is the right thing to do for our own security, the government will not do that. >> yeah. and it's a shame that i think there is like i've said before, you know, a trojan horse, we talk about it a lot. that phrase gets bandied about, doesn't but more doesn't it? but what more evidence do really need to evidence do you really need to see? this exists and is quite see? this exists and it is quite possibly a possibly operating out of a massive in west london. massive building in west london. look, right look, moving on from that right now, is still plenty of now, there is still plenty of time grab chance to win time to grab your chance to win a greek cruise, travel goodies and a £10,000 tax free cash bank balance here's all the balance boost. here's all the details you need. >> don't miss your chance to win our biggest prize so far. there's an incredible £10,000 in
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volunteers to identify and help illegal migrants being sent to rwanda. are these political activists masquerading as humanitarians? former head of the national counter terrorism security office, chris phillips, joins me live. but up next, accusations that the bbc helped labour through their edit of their rayner interview. >> he decided at the time for editorial reasons, that we shouldn't run that, excuse me. >> so can the public really trust the bbc campaign director of defund the bbc, rebecca ryan, goes head to head with the corporation's former head of religions and ethics , akil religions and ethics, akil ahmed. this is patrick christys. tonight. we're on .
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gb news. welcome back to patrick christys . tonight. coming up. should woke charities that obstruct the will of the british parliament be banned? i am, of course, talking about care for calais. but first, can the public trust the bbc? it's time now for the head to head. and the bbc once again finds itself in hot water after it emerged that the corporation edited an interview with angela rayner to remove this clip. after labour party aides raised objections and finally, you'll remember that keir starmer there was the so—called beergate case. >> he did nothing wrong, but he
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did say that had he faced a penalty notice, he would have resigned . if this turns out that resigned. if this turns out that you had should have declared a liability and you didn't, would you be in the same position as keir starmer and think that your position is not sustainable? >> well, i've had the expert advice and i do not owe any capital gains tax on that property. >> well, here's bbc political journalist nick watt trying to spin the situation last friday. >> he decided at the time, for editorial reasons , that we editorial reasons, that we shouldn't run that. now, inevitably, you can't run all of an interview . you have to make an interview. you have to make cuts. but for transparency , i cuts. but for transparency, i should say that the labour team did. after the interview raised concerns about that exchange . concerns about that exchange. >> yeah. and you gave in to them, didn't you? but the incident has sparked concerns about the bbc's impartiality, not because labour have not least because labour have been doing their level best to stop the media reporting the allegations rayner may have allegations that rayner may have broken law with sale of broken the law with the sale of her home. this her former home. when this programme, christys
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her former home. when this progranwent christys her former home. when this progranwent to christys her former home. when this progranwent to the christys her former home. when this progranwent to the labour; her former home. when this progranwent to the labour party tonight went to the labour party about the claims, they told us firstly, it was not a story. they also said they didn't want us to report it. former labour parliamentary candidate john o'farrell tried the same tactic on the bbc yesterday . on the bbc yesterday. >> i think this is such a ridiculous non—story. >> i think this is such a ridiculous non—story . the bbc ridiculous non—story. the bbc here to keep spending time on this and to have yvette cooper sit here and come and talk about violence against women and girls and that to take second place to this bit of gossip that the male has pushed and pushed and pushed. the bbc have pushed. and for the bbc to have to say, we have to cover this because the male have keep covering it and keep covering it and it becomes story and and so it becomes a story and it's a story. it's not a story. >> unlike the we >> well, unlike the bbc, we decided to to decided not to listen to labour's press officers because why we? and today went why should we? and today went from to worse. the bbc, from bad to worse. for the bbc, radio presenter nick radio four presenter nick robinson to admit that robinson forced to admit that he hadnt robinson forced to admit that he hadn't clear when he hadn't been clear enough when he made an made this comment in an interview with the foreign secretary, earlier secretary, lord cameron, earlier this , isn't real this morning, isn't the real risk where are now that risk of where we are now that western governments appear to back israel.
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>> the moment that israel is under attack. but when israel attacks and murders tens of thousands of innocent palestinians, we say the words, but we do almost nothing . but we do almost nothing. >> so after they admitted editing an interview with angela rayner and labour staffers complained, can public trust complained, can the public trust the bbc? let me know your thoughts head to gbnews.com thoughts now head to gbnews.com forward slash your or tweet forward, slash your say or tweet me and while you're me @gbnews. and while you're there , make you vote in our there, make sure you vote in our poll. results will follow poll. the results will follow very, but first very, very shortly. but first doing this, i'm joined doing battle on this, i'm joined now the campaign of now by the campaign director of defund rebecca ryan, defund the bbc, rebecca ryan, and of course, i also have as well our ahmed. i'm just going to go to rebecca first on this. what's your view on this then? can we trust the bbc? >> well, as campaign director for defund the bbc, i think, you know, it's predictable that i would say absolutely not. but actually the data shows, you know, that the public doesn't trust the bbc vie. and what we're seeing here is, is the bbc acting as the sort of media arm
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of the labour party, you know, and they away with and they can't get away with sort and choosing sort of picking and choosing which of news they show or which bits of news they show or which bits of news they show or which bits of news they show or which bits don't. when this which bits they don't. when this is clearly a story and we is was clearly a story and we know absolutely if this had been a conservative party, cabinet minister, then this would certainly have been shown and we all know that for a fact. so, you know, this is what this is what makes people really, you know, lose their tether with, with the bbc is this sort of double standard all the time. and, you know, the bbc has to get to grips with this . get to grips with this. >> okay. and i'm just going to introduce akhil. now, his former head of religions and ethics at the thank very much for the bbc. thank you very much for joining look, i mean, it joining us. look, i mean, it looks as though if the labour party say, oh, look, we'd really rather you didn't that, rather you didn't report that, then won't it. then the bbc won't do it. >> don't, don't think >> yeah, i don't, i don't think that's case because if you that's the case because if you for any political party. but i think there are circumstances which sometimes you have to which make sometimes you have to deal with i think on this deal with and i think on this one, i think one, the labour one, i think one, one the labour party officials who were there one, i think one, one the labour partythat cials who were there one, i think one, one the labour
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partythat actually» were there one, i think one, one the labour partythat actually» werisn'tere said that actually this isn't the that particular the same case at that particular moment time . this isn't the moment in time. this isn't the same case as was with keir same case as it was with keir starmer, because there is no police investigation at this moment. think that's what moment. and i think that's what they gave into. and once they gave into. and then once that particular, once the police did actually launch a probe into the angela rayner story is a story as well , nobody can deny story as well, nobody can deny it's just not a story, at that point, then that's when the situation has changed. so i think you're right that they have given in, but they've given in because of something that that was explained to them, and they've made a decision whether it's or wrong decision, they've made a decision whether it's they've wrong decision, they've made a decision whether it's they've made decision, they've made a decision whether it's they've made that sion, they've made a decision whether it's they've made that decision but they've made that decision based information. based on that information. >> mean, rebecca, look, >> yeah. i mean, rebecca, look, we obviously in we were obviously in communication with the labour party. the things party. we know the things they've saying to they they've been saying to us. they were saying to us, this is a non story. they said to us, you shouldn't running this, shouldn't be running this, you shouldn't be running this, you shouldn't talking it. shouldn't be talking about it. we think it is we said, no, we think it is a story and we've been proven right about that in the fullness of you know, bbc just of time. you know, the bbc just decided cave in. no exactly. decided to cave in. no exactly. >> i mean, this is the thing is about choosing, and
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about picking and choosing, and it the bbc is acting it seems like the bbc is acting as they're of kingmakers as if they're sort of kingmakers as if they're sort of kingmakers as to who will be the next person in number 10. and that's really unfortunate when you've person in number 10. and that's realpeople �*tunate when you've person in number 10. and that's realpeople across when you've person in number 10. and that's realpeople across thezn you've person in number 10. and that's realpeople across the countrye got people across the country who pay the who are forced to pay for the bbc if they want watch any bbc if they want to watch any live broadcast tv, and this is why people are getting more and more why people are getting more and morseeing value for money. not seeing value for money. they're realising that actually, if live if you don't watch live broadcast you get broadcast tv, if you get everything on catch or everything on on catch up or on on demand, long as it's not on demand, as long as it's not iplayer, you don't to pay iplayer, you don't need to pay for and we're seeing for the bbc and we're seeing more and more people turning away from bbc and, you know, away from the bbc and, you know, it's because time time it's just because time and time again, we're seeing this sort of double standard and absolutely, we have gone we know the bbc would have gone for it a conservative for it if it was a conservative cabinet minister a similar cabinet minister on a similar level. they did. >> they rebecca. they were >> they did rebecca. they were they they were over they were, they were all over partygate like rat up a partygate like a rat up a drainpipe any whiff of a drainpipe without any whiff of a police quite police investigation for quite some i just wonder some time. and i just wonder whether not what whether or not that is what we've just there is the we've just seen there is the left wing bias that the bbc, if it's a left wing bias, it's not a very good one, is it? >> because you've got robbie
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gibb on the board, you've got samir shah as the chair, you've got, tim, tim davie, former. >> but what about the output though? akil. >> no, my point is actually the output. mean, i'll tell you output. i mean, i'll tell you one patrick. everybody one thing, patrick. everybody has the bbc's has a problem with the bbc's output having been there. everybody a problem. and you everybody has a problem. and you can pick and choose whatever bits have a problem bits you want to have a problem with. on this one. look, with. i think on this one. look, it compare partygate. it doesn't compare to partygate. and disrespectful and i think that's disrespectful to who lost our loved to many of us who lost our loved ones during that time. it doesn't to partygate. it doesn't compare to partygate. it is a story the labour party will always batted away, just always try and batted away, just like the conservatives will. that's the game, that's the part of the game, that's do. the that's what they do. but the fact matter is there was fact of the matter is there was a complication. they made a decision. i don't know, i'm speaking on a personal speaking purely on a personal basis. right the basis. was it the right or the wrong basis. was it the right or the wroyou don't think you don't >> you don't think you don't think realise that? you think they realise that? you don't think, akhil, that they realise for realise the potential for a labour government the labour government around the corner want to corner and they don't want to anger early doors and lose anger them early doors and lose some kind of contact, because i know a fact, by the way, know for a fact, by the way, that that is happening some that that is happening in some quarters media right now, quarters of the media right now, which that are not which means that we are not getting proper, reporting
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getting proper, proper reporting of labour party. of the labour party. >> i know , i know your >> i think i know, i know your point you're making across the whole society, whatever whole of society, whatever industry now, industry you're in now, everybody is thinking about who's the next who's going to be the next government and the likelihood is it's to labour it's going to be a labour government. so there's always going something of that going to be something of that nature. doesn't this nature. this doesn't go this decision that is something decision to do that is something to with newsnight. it's not to do with newsnight. it's not actually single other actually every single other person whole of person involved in the whole of the somebody makes an the bbc. somebody makes an editorial decision in newsnight about what they should or shouldn't what bit of shouldn't choose, what bit of the they want put the interview they want to put in. they decision based in. they made a decision based on police thing , that's on that police thing, that's all. or not it was right all. whether or not it was right or wrong, would have gone with or wrong, i would have gone with it personally. personally, i'd have and there'd be have gone with it and there'd be lots people would have lots of people who would have gone it's the gone with it. it's the individual editor on that day who the decision, not some who makes the decision, not some big conspiracy. okay. big kind of conspiracy. okay. >> just very final quick >> and just very final quick word you, rebecca, word to you, rebecca, because the a little bit, word to you, rebecca, because the it? a little bit, word to you, rebecca, because the it? not a little bit, word to you, rebecca, because the it? not with a little bit, word to you, rebecca, because the it? not with nick ttle bit, word to you, rebecca, because the it? not with nick robinson did it? not with nick robinson earlier on he spoke about earlier on when he spoke about israel a of israel murdering, a load of people. that the kind people. that was then the kind of twisted response that, in my view, probably have view, can probably only have been air that went
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been written by air that went out saying, oh, look, wanted out saying, oh, look, i wanted to this again, was that to clarify this again, was that not another example, potentially, bias? there potentially, of some bias? there >> i mean, the use >> absolutely. i mean, the use of the murderer is, is of the word murderer is, is really inflammatory and he should know and he does know actually, that it's sort of the kind of reaction that that word will bring about. and it's, you know, the situation in israel and palestine is hugely sensitive and a state funded, a taxpayer funded broadcaster should have that in the forefront of their mind at all times. it'sjust forefront of their mind at all times. it's just not good enough to be using words like that and then sort of, you know, quietly sort of saying, oh yeah, i didn't really mean it. i wouldn't, sort of wouldn't, i wasn't sort of careful should be careful enough. he should be careful enough. he should be careful you know , it's important. >> all right. well, look, both of you, thank you very, very much. was cracking head to much. it was a cracking head to head so it's campaign head there. so it's the campaign director rebecca director from the bbc, rebecca ryan, man who i think ryan, and the man who i think many people watching this would wish the editor of wish had been the editor of newsnight the former head of newsnight is the former head of religions ethics at the bbc. religions and ethics at the bbc. take both a bbc take care both of you. a bbc spokesperson said nick, what transparently explained the full situation to viewers on friday's
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newsnight, including the fact that normal to that it's normal to make editorial decisions about what is from is and isn't used from a pre—recorded interview. this was a and challenging a forensic and challenging interview in which miss angela rayner was asked in detail about her tax affairs when the situation changed, including the police to investigate. police decision to investigate. we broadcast this exchange. we've covered story we've covered this story impartially throughout. i will also stress that angela also stress as well that angela rayner denies all wrongdoing and thatis rayner denies all wrongdoing and that is why are with that . that is why we are with that. who do you agree with? can the pubuc who do you agree with? can the public trust the bbc? william on x says no one can trust the biased broadcasting corporation. this the bbc polly says the this is the bbc polly says the bbc is the best. whewi sean on x says beergate was just a cover up. so i think this thing with rayner will be a cover up too. again, i will stress that angela rayner wrongdoing. rayner denies all wrongdoing. your in. 5% of your verdict is now in. 5% of you say the public can trust the bbc. good grief, 95% of you say they cannot. well you know what? you'll have keep watching us you'll have to keep watching us then. it's just as well, then. and it's just as well, because ambassador says because the us ambassador says that won't be that prince harry won't be deported under the biden administration. the now
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administration. is the duke now being afforded special privileges? of the privileges? former editor of the sun, kelvin mackenzie, joins us with his unfiltered analysis. but next, the charity care for calais. they do a huge amount with channel migrants, is recruiting hundreds of volunteers to help identify and help illegal migrants who are at risk of being sent to rwanda . risk of being sent to rwanda. are these now political activists masquerading as humanitarians? and is the paris olympics under threat over fears from an isis terror attack? the former head of national counter terrorism security office, chris phillips, is here with his expert analysis,
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next. welcome back to patrick christys. tonight coming up, former editor of the sun. kelvin mackenzie on the prince harry us deportation row. but first, the rwanda bill is finally set to pass through parliament later this week. but open border fanatics won't go down without a fight. the controversial charity care for calais has recruited hundreds of volunteers to identify illegal migrants who are due on the first flights and help them make last minute appeals to stay in the uk. its chief executive, steve smith, told the i newspaper we know this is a desperate government who are going after those with the least likelihood of being able to legal support to able to secure legal support to challenge their rwanda notice. if passes rwanda if parliament passes the rwanda bill next week, we will leave no stone unturned to identify those at risk and signpost them to get
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legal support. well while care for calais like to take the moral high ground , they do have moral high ground, they do have some blots on record. just some blots on their record. just last year they were reprimanded by charity commission for by the charity commission for serious misconduct and mismanagement. that, mismanagement. before that, their moseley , their founder, clare moseley, stepped down from the board amid claims that she had an affair with the tunisian migrants. and after up , he tried to after breaking up, he tried to set one of their calais distribution warehouses on fire. she separately threatened to drag a volunteer out of a room by her effing hair. i'm joined now by the former head of the national council terrorism security office is chris phillips. chris, thank you very, very much. this is the first one i want to talk to you about tonight. how worried should we be about groups, be in this country about groups, i argue potentially i would argue potentially masquerading charities like masquerading as charities like care doing their care for calais, doing their best, level best to keep best, their level best to keep people in britain that we have scheduled deportation . scheduled for deportation. >> well, they're creating a huge, danger because we know for a fact that many of the people
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that have come over many, many aren't criminals by the way, but but many are. and of course, what we've seen is some of those people turn to terrorism and, and, and i would suggest that some of those people are actually here because of, charities such as care for calais . calais. >> why i can't understand is, you know, if this was a kind of hairy albanian man who was stood on the beaches of calais or somewhere nearby and saying , you somewhere nearby and saying, you know, we can offer you a little bit of support. we can, you know, feed you and clothe you, and there'll be someone meeting you the other side with a bit you on the other side with a bit of advice or whatever. i of legal advice or whatever. i think that people would really take dim view of that. take quite a dim view of that. but yourselves care but if you call yourselves care for all of sudden for calais, then all of a sudden that's okay, chris, and it just seems a bit bizarre to me. it's a double standard, isn't it? >> well, well, i to be >> well, well, i think to be quite honest, people to quite honest, if people want to go time over in go and give their time over in calais, actually , you know, calais, and actually, you know, look after the people that are in, situations over in, difficult situations over there, then that's one thing. but to help them to get
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but actually to help them to get into the uk effectively break the law and when they get into the law and when they get into the uk to stay here, you know, a and now it will again be against the law , as, as we see it then the law, as, as we see it then that's a big issue, and i think the fact that there are charity just makes this so much worse. >> yeah. look, i absolutely no care for i will just say , you care for i will just say, you know, they are a charity and they're just giving aid and support and all of that stuff. that's fine. but there is, for me, a rizla, papers worth of difference, between, you difference, right, between, you know, people over know, the people who are over there the helping, staying there doing the helping, staying in people, giving in contact with people, giving them and all of them legal advice and all of this stuff to try to desperately help all stay in britain, help them all stay in britain, even after government even after a government scheduled deportation. even after a government schedule(some deportation. even after a government schedule(some theeportation. even after a government schedule(some the peopleyn. even after a government schedule(some the people who and then some of the people who are those people onto are ushering those people onto the care for calais the boats i know care for calais will say that there is a big difference to that. and they are not human traffickers, not indeed human traffickers, which are not. which of course they are not. but year, kaja kallas but last year, kaja kallas founder moseley told founder clare moseley told the mail online that regard to mail online that with regard to the who was the volunteer who was threatened, followed the volunteer who was threate of d, followed the volunteer who was threate of issues followed the volunteer who was threate of issues with wed the volunteer who was threateof issues with this period of issues with this volunteer. acknowledge volunteer. i acknowledge that the the heat of
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the comments made in the heat of the comments made in the heat of the was entirely the moment was entirely inappropriate, i have inappropriate, and i have apologised. want to get apologised. but i want to get your expertise this your expertise really on this next story. so we are next story. chris. so we are just months away from paris just months away from the paris olympics, opening olympics, but the opening ceremony could drastically ceremony could be drastically watered to the threat watered down due to the threat of attack. of an islamist terror attack. the is to have the current plan is to have national sailing down national teams sailing down the river on barges. but river seine on barges. but french president macron french president emmanuel macron is considering the is considering shifting the entire to inside the stade entire event to inside the stade de france over security fears . de france over security fears. this follows threats last week made by the isis death cult against champions league matches held in london, madrid and paris. chris look, is this is this overcaution or actually is this overcaution or actually is this yet another example of us changing our way of life because of the terrorists? >> well, well, it's a little bit of both of those, actually. patrick and i think the french do feel terrorist threat. do feel the terrorist threat. probably more intensely than we do. fact, raise the do. in fact, they raise the terrorism threat to the highest level after the attacks in moscow, just a few weeks ago. and i think , you know, we were and i think, you know, we were very nervous on the run up to the olympics when it was in the
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uk. and i think they are very much aware, the fact that paris and france are going to be on the, are not going to be on the front pages of or back pages of every newspaper across the world. and of course, a single terrorist attack could alter that and actually devastating that and actually be devastating for france and all those people that that are going along to it. so it's a big issue for them. >> is this just it now though, chris? i mean, is this just where we are at, where any large scale joyous event that may or may not involve some barges down the river, has to be the river, sand has to be confined within a much smaller area that armed police confined within a much smaller areakeep1at armed police confined within a much smaller areakeep the armed police confined within a much smaller area keep the jihadis ed police confined within a much smaller area keep the jihadis out. olice confined within a much smaller area keep the jihadis out. isce can keep the jihadis out. is that just are now as a that just where we are now as a world? >> no, fought against that, >> no, we fought against that, of and the point of course, and the whole point of course, and the whole point of counter—terrorism policing, and the security and the work that the security services is to allow people services do is to allow people to live their normal lives . services do is to allow people to live their normal lives. big events go on, you know, every day year, somewhere , and day of the year, somewhere, and we've got to police and properly. but but, you if properly. but but, you know, if you've been to, france right across their big cities , across all their big cities, you'll see little teams of soldiers walking around with
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guns , because they do fear guns, because they do fear terrorism, it's much closer to them over there. >> look, chris, thank you very much. he's a good point to end on that because i actually would not be opposed to that over here. it's ideal here. i know that it's not ideal at all see people walking at all to see people walking around, you know, armed police or whether it's members of the military. suppose it's a military. i suppose it's a personal question to though, personal question to us, though, isn't feel more or isn't it? would you feel more or less safe if you knew there were more with guns, good more people with guns, the good guys walking around, guys with guns walking around, that former head the that is the former head of the national counter terrorism security phillips security office, chris phillips there. expose there. look, coming up, i expose there. look, coming up, i expose the outrageous example of the most outrageous example of an in britain. an asylum centre in britain. >> this mums and dads bring their children. but that's every day, you know, i mean, it's not safe . it's not safe for them to safe. it's not safe for them to be walking up and down here. >> and what's going on here? stop playing this song. >> it makes me. >> it makes me. >> but next, the white house have said that prince harry will not be deported, while joe biden is still president. why is the
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runaway royal still getting these special privileges? and do we even the sussexes back we even want the sussexes back on home soil? fleet street legend kelvin mackenzie tears into
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next. this is patrick christys . this is patrick christys. tonight. now. very soon. i have a big exclusive for you. i expose the most outrageous plans for an asylum detention centre anywhere in britain. and it's a competitive field. but this really is the worst one. but first, i am joined by former editor of sun, kelvin editor of the sun, kelvin mackenzie. now, prince harry has been he will be been assured that he will not be deported united states deported from the united states whilst is president. whilst joe biden is president. the foundation think the heritage foundation think tank dc been tank in washington, dc has been pushing for the department of homeland to make the homeland security to make the duke's visa application public after string of boasts after he made a string of boasts about his drug use and his tell all memoir, spare. it's thought that if harry had lied on his visa application about taking drugs, he be at risk of drugs, he would be at risk of deportation. but now the
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american ambassador to the uk, jane hartley, has told sky news it's not going to happen under a biden administration. well it looks like harry still wants special treatment, doesn't it, calvin? i thought he'd renounce his privilege . his privilege. >> well, i'm torn on this issue because if he's kicked out of the states , then he comes back the states, then he comes back here. well, that i don't want him back here. i mean, the psychodrama is bad enough with him being 6000 miles away. what would it be like if he were wandering around windsor great park you know, and, park every day, you know, and, bringing his bringing his missus with him? all i could see is massive aggro. however, this is a political dispute now with biden saying if trump is in favour of kicking him out, i'm in favour of keeping him and therefore he's got caught up in some rather ridiculous political drama anyway. but look, i don't want him back here. so i the fact is he lied on his visa right ? because there was no right? because there was no money involved. he then writes a book and says if you throw in i
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took drugs, then the value of my book goes up. and so all it does is show what a terrible piece of work he is. but please don't bnng work he is. but please don't bring it back here, patrick, if you've any, you've got you've got any, you've got a spare room or something, don't give it to him. >> that'd be something, wouldn't it? waking up and prince it? waking up and having prince harry room. but harry in your spare room. but his lawyers, of course , are his lawyers, of course, are saying, well, look. but his lawyers, of course, saying, lawyers, of course, are saying, well, just because well, look, just just because it's because it's the it's just because it's in the book doesn't it true. which book doesn't make it true. which to be fair, calvin does beg the question why else in the question about why else in the book quite true either, book wasn't quite true either, really. special really. but this is special treatment though, isn't treatment for him, though, isn't it? this deeply it? you know, this deeply privileged special favours. >> it is, it is. but you know, l, >> it is, it is. but you know, i, i totally agree, you can get very aggravated about it. and it's a very odd world. but once you get into american politics, you get into american politics, you know, he is he's a protected species, as far as the democrats are concerned . but it's another are concerned. but it's another example of you are probably looking they're probably looking at his wife and looking at the fact that she possibly be of
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colour and therefore doesn't want to aggravate the one of the communities in america who feel very aggravated sometimes over these issues. so there's a lot of things caught up in this. >> i mean, i don't know, you know, i mean, there's plenty of people who are denied access to america or who are booted out of america or who are booted out of america for, for, you know, drugs issues as well. i think it would look unbelievable if harry isn't. of course, no isn't. but of course, no doubt they wrongdoing if they deny any wrongdoing if that's this that's possible in this situation. it's emerged, situation. but it's emerged, calvin, british calvin, that the british taxpayers out an taxpayers are shelling out an astonishing £292 million a year in disability for in disability benefits for people claiming have adhd. people claiming to have adhd. a sunday investigation found sunday mail investigation found that spending has shot up more than 41,000% since 2013, when we were just forking out 700 grand, calvin , you've been across this calvin, you've been across this for gb news. all right, so what is the latest with this? >> right. so the situation is this in 2013 they brought in, pip. right. a kind of disability benefit okay. and for adhd which
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is basically it's difficult to actually track it down. but basically if you fidget a lot, if you speak a lot, if basically if you fidget a lot, if you speak a lot , if you, if you speak a lot, if you, break into other people a lot. so if you recognise any of those issues there, you might like to contact them. right, so it is that, that, you get , £184 a that, that, you get, £184 a week. well in 2013, that was costing the nation £700,000 a yeah costing the nation £700,000 a year. today it's nearly 300,052,000 people. last year, actually got this benefit. and you don't you get the £184 a week whether you are a gb news presenter, the prime minister or whatever, right? no. no matter whether you're in work or not, in work or you have assets or anything else. so it's a very, very attractive, very , very very attractive, very, very attractive benefit. and so the effect of it all is that
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actually everybody's piling in, including the give the mail on sunday their credit that they revealed that there's a lady who's now set herself up as a private consultant who, by the way, she too has adhd and she charges £650. so the people come on to her and they say, can you fill in the form that gets me this 100 and £884 a week? >> well, i mean, i'm sorry, but i'm about to call the department of work and pensions because, i mean, i think , i think i am mean, i think, i think i am living proof that, adhd probably does exist, right? so conceivably, conceivably, i could be £184 a week better off. >> you would. you would definitely be. look, i've known you for quite a long time. you would almost certainly, definitely. i might do right. i might do . why not? any might do. why not? any journalist who actually has these traits ? they all could. these traits? they all could. and most people i know can. and honestly, the truth about the matter is that adhd , the people matter is that adhd, the people applying it are aged between
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about 16 and 29. so that's where you don't succeed and neither do i. but you know, it's it. the truth about the matter is that all of us, i suspect , truth about the matter is that all of us, i suspect, could claim it. and now the government are turning around and i rather admire this guy. mel stride for work and pensions secretary , who work and pensions secretary, who is saying, look, please don't confuse everyday problems with mental health. and this is what's happening, i'm afraid people, everybody has bad days . people, everybody has bad days. and when that day is over, there's a better day coming . but there's a better day coming. but thatissue there's a better day coming. but that issue has now been lost. >> yeah, absolutely. and you know, the point here is that we are not absolutely at all diminishing people who have genuine mental health problems and genuine , genuinely and genuine, genuinely aggressive adhd. i think the point are making there's point we are making is there's clearly quite lot of people clearly quite a lot of people who on the but calvin, who are on the take. but calvin, thank very , very much. thank you very, very much. fantastic stuff. look after yourself. mackenzie, yourself. kelvin mackenzie, former a former editor of the sun, a department work pensions department for work and pensions spokesperson, our spokesperson, said our disability are disability assessors are qualified professionals. qualified health professionals. we regular reviews we conduct regular reviews to ensure patients going ensure that patients are going
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to people, right . to the right people, right. okay. coming up, tory mp james heappey has just resigned as armed forces minister and we could now be on the precipice of world war iii. what are his parting words? find out shortly. he joins us live in the studio. but next locals in faversham in kent were told to like it or lump it as asylum seekers, detention centre is opening in a very inconvenient place . i went very inconvenient place. i went exclusively down there to speak with the disturbed residents. it's a massive story. it's a gb news exclusive, and it's after your weather with aidan mcgivern i >> -- >> that 5mm >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers, sponsors of weather on gb news. >> hello again. welcome to the latest weather forecast from the met office. it's going to stay blustery over the next 24 hours, but less windy than it has been, and the showers will slowly ease as well. low pressure is pulling away . it's moving as well. low pressure is pulling away. it's moving east.
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as well. low pressure is pulling away . it's moving east. we've away. it's moving east. we've got high pressure arriving later in the week, but for the time being the weather stays very changeable, with showers or longer spells of rain moving through during the evening. many of these showers will actually fade away after midnight, although some will continue down the north sea coast there 1 or 2 for northern ireland, parts of wales and central england, but otherwise drier and otherwise plenty of drier and clearer weather emerging later in chill in the air in the night. a chill in the air first thing tuesday, but too breezy for most for a frost, and there'll be plenty of bright weather first thing, especially for scotland. northern england parts of western uk, but further cloud and showers will affect the north sea coast and showers will tend to bubble up elsewhere , particularly for northern ireland. parts of central and southern england, wales and northwest scotland. it's going to stay on the cold side, but temperatures a degree or so higher compared with monday's and less windy, so a bit more pleasant out there. another chilly start on wednesday, but again, plenty of sunshine first thing turning cloudy and damp
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gb news. >> it's 10 pm. i'm patrick christie tonight. >> i'm illegally in the country. put a tag on him, and then we know where they are and what they're up to. >> the worst ever asylum detention centre . detention centre. >> and it's mums and dads bring their children. but that's every day, you know? i mean, it's not safe . safe. >> children will not be safe. and . acts. armed forces minister
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and. acts. armed forces minister james heappey is live. are we ready for war plus ridiculous . ready for war plus ridiculous. >> there's nasty girls singing about the wages and we've got wings on our shoulders that need building the show this and the show that and the show. what's the flag got to do with anything? >> what the hell do any of these flags mean? also shocking scenes in sydney and protests like this followed brings it up. >> we give up . >> we give up. >> we give up. >> oh, my panel tonight it is columnist carol maloney, journalist benjamin butterworth, and political editor of the express, sam lister. and the only thing getting nicked is coppers, cars . stop playing this coppers, cars. stop playing this song. it makes me get ready. britain here we go.
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keep unaccompanied male asylum seekers away from schools. next . seekers away from schools. next. >> well, with the time at just after 10:00, the top story from the newsroom tonight. is that mps have been voting in the house of commons, and they've rejected multiple house of lords amendments to the rwanda bill. following a debate in the commons tonight, mps dismissed all changes presented to them. the lords had raised a number of concerns, including age assessments, uk court jurisdiction and modern slavery concerns . the conservative mp concerns. the conservative mp sir william cash dubbed the proposed changes ridiculous. labour said the scheme was doomed to fail. labour said the scheme was doomed to fail . the bill will doomed to fail. the bill will return to the lords tomorrow for further scrutiny . the prime further scrutiny. the prime minister is understood to be calling the israeli leader tonight, appealing to him to show restraint following iran's
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drone and missile attack . drone and missile attack. earlier, rishi sunak told the commons that on the phone call he'll be reiterating the uk's solidarity with israel. but also discussing how to prevent any further escalation of violence in the middle east. and there was condemnation of iran's military offensive against israel from both sir keir starmer and rishi sunak. today our aim is to support stability and security because it is right for the region and because, although the middle east is thousands of miles away, it has a direct effect on our security and prosperity at home. >> there can be no doubt that the attack perpetrated by iranian forces this weekend has left the world a more dangerous place . it targeted innocent place. it targeted innocent civilians with a clear intent to destabilise the region . it must destabilise the region. it must be wholly condemned by all. >> sir keir starmer, now two men were jailed today after police discovered a cocaine haul hidden
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inside blocks of cheese. just over £17 million worth of cocaine was seized after officers raided a unit in lancashire a year ago and found the class a drug concealed inside blocks of gouda from belgium. saleem chowdhury has been put behind bars for 27.5 years for admitting conspiracy to supply cocaine and money laundering, while abdul mohabbath was jailed for 16 years. detective sergeant hayden sibley said when we arrested chowdhury, you could see by the look on his face that his world had crumbled and news from the united states tonight , the united states tonight, the armourer on the movie rust, has been sentenced to 18 months in prison over the death of cinematographer halyna hutchins in 2021. hannah gutierrez—reed mistakenly handed a loaded gun to actor alec baldwin on the film set, which resulted in miss hutchins being fatally shot. a jury hutchins being fatally shot. a jury took less than two hours to
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find miss gutierrez—reed guilty of involuntary manslaughter. she was led away from court in silence while apparently her mother cried, mr baldwin is charged with the same offence and his trial is set to start in july . that's the news. for the july. that's the news. for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts. scan that qr code on your screen right now or go to gb news .com/ alerts . to gb news .com/ alerts. >> i think i have uncovered the most shocking example of our broken asylum system. it is kiln caughtin broken asylum system. it is kiln caught in faversham in kent. it used to be a care for home local elderly residents, but it was closed down because apparently there was a lack of public funding. but we've got all the money in the world for illegal immigrants. now it's being turned into a centre for unaccompanied asylum seeker children. but they're not really just children. there allegedly, 16 17 year olds all male, 16 and 17 year olds all male, and they're allowed to roam free
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until they're 10 pm. curfew. but here's the problem. okay look at kiln caught on the map. there it is, 100 yards away from a primary school on the other side of that primary school is a nursery school. there is a secluded alleyway here with little to no cctv or lighting, a combination of elderly people and people with young families live in those houses. just there with just flimsy wooden fences for protection. and at the side of the nursery school is a wooded area with no cctv and a patch of grass, where children from the local housing estate play from the local housing estate play during school holidays and at weekends you will also be able to see little rosebuds child care centre on the other side of it. there in what is an extremely competitive field of ludicrous locations for asylum centres, this one is by far the worst i've come across on saturday i went to kiln court to speak with the locals. this man is worried about the safety of his four year old boy for the reasons he's about to outline .
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reasons he's about to outline. >> my little boy's obviously is autistic, suffers with a bit of anxiety and that unfamiliar faces and things obviously are going to be a thing for him. you're going to get congregations from him outside the because that's where the school because that's where they going to they live. they're going to congregate outside and congregate about outside and stuff and my main concern is when at and my missus when i'm at work and my missus and home and they're and kids are at home and they're in at the early hours of the in bed at the early hours of the morning at r4, when i get up for work, i'm going to be worried. while in this while not being around in this area. going worried area. i'm going to be worried for their safety. going for their safety. they're going to all the time, not to be worried all the time, not knowing where knowing these people where they're they're here. they're from, why they're here. there is morally wrong in the way they're housing them in these built up areas, like around schools, around like communities with small children . communities with small children. >> a secluded alleyway is used as a cut through for mums and their young children. it leads straight to the nursery school and some woodland. i spoke to julie, whose house actually backs on to this alleyway . backs on to this alleyway. >> i don't think cctv would help because there's no police
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presence in the town, so what would you actually do? and it's mums and dads bring their children, but that's every day, you know, i mean it's not safe. it's not safe for them to be walking up and down here. i mean, we get enough trouble in this alleyway as it is with kids and youths chucking things over the fence and everything, and the fence and everything, and the fact that they're going to be literally, just literally around the corner and then be allowed out to 10:00 at night, it's a worry about what's it's just a worry about what's going actually happen. going to actually happen. i mean, i used to actually work in kiln and social kiln court and for social services for county services for kent county council, was a thriving council, and it was a thriving community for 30 residents from faversham . yeah, i think the faversham. yeah, i think the community of faversham is going to suffer basically, and the town is going to change and i don't think that's fair on any of us that have lived here nearly all our lives. >> yeah. fair enough. the alleyway leads into some woodland and then onto a playing field, and locals like tony are concerned that young men from war torn countries will be hanging around here. and what that means for the safety of the
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wider community. >> question would be, >> so my question would be, really is if they are if they have come in illegally , then why have come in illegally, then why are they allowed to roam the streets until 10:00 at night? and who's to say they're going to be back in there by 10:00 at night? i think the from what we can tell that the, the security, the staffing of the centre is going to be fairly minimal. so you know, how is that going to accommodate 16 to 17 year old lads? a post pubescent young men aren't they. they're not they're not children. the councils keep referring to them as children, but in actual fact they're not they're not 7 or 8 years old. so that's i think that's a concern of a lot of people, really. the fact that we just weren't told anything about it. the council , anything about it. the council, that's the county council, first of all, allegedly have sent letters out, which i'm sure they have, but i don't know anybody that's had one. >> well, the locals walked with me from the school site there, which you can see to the asylum
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centre, and it's like 100 yards. all right. it's probably less than 100 yards, actually. and that seemed to be asylum centre used to be the care home for the local elderly people, but it's clear they're not as much of a priority anymore as illegal immigrants. >> they're going to turn it into a home for illegal immigrants. that shouldn't even be in our country, saying that they can't afford to do it up for our elderly . i'm afford to do it up for our elderly. i'm sorry our afford to do it up for our elderly . i'm sorry our elderly elderly. i'm sorry our elderly come first, and then they're going to put it right next to a school . so we've got to worry school. so we've got to worry about our children. we've got to worry about our little children and our young ladies. not only that, we've got to worry about our elderly in the community that lived here all their that have lived here all their lives. and all money is lives. and all the money is going illegals that really going to illegals that really should be tagged when come should be tagged when they come in though they're in the country. though they're illegally in the country, put a tag on them then we know tag on them and then we know where they are and what they're up to. >> e“- up to. >> but apparently these >> yeah, but apparently if these asylum look, asylum seekers abscond, look, don't , okay? just don't don't worry, okay? just don't worry at all because they'll be reported to the police and a
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multi—agency response will track them down. there is a slight problem here. >> no one knew about this until united reform. put a leaflet through doors no , it through our doors and, no, it can't be allowed to go ahead. we've got to protect. we've got no police presence in faversham. they closed down our police station and turned it into museum. >> yeah. so the local police station is now a museum. the local mp, helen whately, just doesn't seem to care. we reached out to her. she said this . the out to her. she said this. the centre is an operational decision for kent county council , but they have a duty to provide accommodation. however, we are pressing for answers to local concerns and supporting kcc s call for an effective national transfer scheme, which will ease the burden on kent. we reached out to her again today and said, look , this is and we said, look, this is really local people really bad. local people are turning against you over this. her team responded and said she has nothing further to add, and local resident ryan felt the local resident ryan felt the local community had been totally disregarded . disregarded. >> i feel like if you were
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passing something like that, it's almost like you're you're obscuring the truth and you don't want people to have a say because what you're doing is when something's legally right and you're going the and you're going through the channels, it might be channels, okay, it might be legally, there is moral legally, but there is a moral obugafion legally, but there is a moral obligation should be obligation that you should be actually thinking, actually looking and thinking, is to be suitable for is this going to be suitable for the people, is it going to be the people, or is it going to be suitable for because suitable for them? because you've got to look at the both parties. clearly hasn't parties. but clearly that hasn't been done. they've just passed it said, right, we've it under and said, right, we've ticked box and ticked the box exercise and that's just work. that's just lazy work. >> kent council stands that's just lazy work. >> kent of council stands that's just lazy work. >> kent of doing ouncil stands that's just lazy work. >> kent of doing its1cil stands that's just lazy work. >> kent of doing its1cil s't01ds accused of doing its best to avoid letting know avoid letting local people know this happening. in fact, this is happening. in fact, local faversham councillor, the liberal hook, even local faversham councillor, the liberthat hook, even local faversham councillor, the liberthat he hook, even local faversham councillor, the liberthat he was hook, even local faversham councillor, the liberthat he was glad hook, even local faversham councillor, the liberthat he was glad that k, even local faversham councillor, the liberthat he was glad that it even said that he was glad that it was being put to good use. look, it and it is absolute, complete and utter 100% madness put utter 100% madness to put a group unaccompanied, virile group of unaccompanied, virile young lads who have illegally crossed an entire continent and broken britain in an broken into britain in an insecure centre touching insecure centre within touching distance of children and vulnerable adults. this is a disaster waiting to happen. let's get the thoughts of my panel this evening. i have got columnist carole malone . i've
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columnist carole malone. i've also got journalist and broadcaster benjamin butterworth and the political editor of the daily express . it's sam lister, daily express. it's sam lister, carole, this has got it all. okay you've got, unaccompanied, young men. okay. some would call them boys. there's a question mark when you hit the age of 1617, whether you're a man, kids , a nursery school, you know, vulnerable older people there and no police. it appears anywhere around the area at all. what could go wrong, carole? >> everything could go wrong. it has gone wrong already. i've got a list here, which i got from migrationwatch today. long migrationwatch today. as long as your that have your arm of offences that have been committed by exactly the kind of people that we're talking and, you know, talking about, and, you know, you say that the 16 or 17 years old. that's what we've been told. we know that when they arrive in this country, they've dumped all their paperwork, and we they pretend be we know they pretend to be younger than are. they younger than they are. they could 30 year old men, for could be 30 year old men, for all know. so you've got all all we know. so you've got all of around of these guys hanging around hanging schools hanging around the schools thing. it. the thing that thing. i get it. the thing that also really riles me about this,
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you social care in this you know, social care in this country chaotic terrible. country is chaotic and terrible. elderly people the forgotten elderly people are the forgotten generation and generation in this country. and here a care home, a here we have a care home, a perfectly care home that perfectly viable care home that the authority is not the local authority is not funding instead is choosing funding and instead is choosing to fund this asylum centre because they're money because they're getting money from government it. from the government to fund it. so they're make so so they're going to make so they're money out of this they're making money out of this and they're to do is and all they're going to do is throw lads into that area throw these lads into that area and it. and curfews and forget about it. and curfews are stupid. they're not going to they're not going to heed the curfew. they're, as you said, a virile young men, and they're going to out and about. and going to be out and about. and who's them? going to be out and about. and wh(is them? going to be out and about. and wh(i mean, them? going to be out and about. and wh(i mean, that's them? going to be out and about. and wh(i mean, that's the |em? going to be out and about. and wh(i mean, that's the other >> i mean, that's the other point this. so. you've got point on this. so. so you've got a pm. curfew here for these a 10 pm. curfew here for these lads who are not going to be monitored. they're not going to be mean, what do you be tagged. i mean, what do you think about that? benjamin >> at they'll be >> well, at least they'll be watching be >> well, at least they'll be wa home be >> well, at least they'll be wa home by be >> well, at least they'll be wa home by now. be >> well, at least they'll be wa home by now. look, be >> well, at least they'll be wahome by now. look, i'm be >> well, at least they'll be wahome by now. look, i'm afraid at home by now. look, i'm afraid that i'm afraid that i think that i'm afraid that i think that that nothing more than that that was nothing more than fear and dehumanising fear mongering and dehumanising those people who have from those people who have come from extraordinary on extraordinary atrocities on the other of world. other side of the world. >> in cases, you do not. >> in some cases, you do not.
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>> fact is that you talk >> the fact is that you talk about economic migrants, but you can't they've all come from can't say they've all come from atrocities in different countries haven't. countries because they haven't. their applications will their refugee applications will not be accepted once. >> nonsense . >> nonsense. >> nonsense. >> you and look, you talk >> you know? and look, you talk about having a thin about them having just a thin fence between some of the neighbours though they are neighbours as though they are dogs.i neighbours as though they are dogs . i think neighbours as though they are dogs. i think is dogs. i think that is a despicable way to look at these people. these men who people. these are young men who have their lives for have risked their lives for a better life, and that is not a care home. that is an empty building that was going to no care home. that is an empty buil(the that was going to no care home. that is an empty buil(the fact was going to no care home. that is an empty buil(the fact isas going to no care home. that is an empty buil(the fact is that ing to no care home. that is an empty buil(the fact is that now 0 no care home. that is an empty buil(the fact is that now it's) use. the fact is that now it's being used . we've got these being used. we've got these people want be in the people that want to be in the country. if they break the laws, the police should enforce. had a but see absolutely problem. but i see absolutely no problem. have you talk have you listened to you talk about they're about them like they're not human. about them like they're not hurthey aren't police . >> they aren't police. >> they aren't police. >> they're that's what the residents saying. residents are saying. >> you had year >> sam, if you had a four year old or five year old that was old or a five year old that was going to primary school there, or even the nursery next door, how would about that how would you feel about that centre up, do you think? centre opening up, do you think? >> i this is the >> well, i think this is the problem is it gets to the heart of it all centres are of it all these centres that are taking it's the taking over, whether it's the big the centre of the big hotel in the centre of the town or whether it's an raf
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airbase no longer on airbase that's no longer used on the outskirts of town, local communities do not communities really do not like people en people being placed somewhere en masse, don't masse, and they certainly don't want next to a school. and as want it next to a school. and as you say, i mean, i've been checking the stats on this and full fact, which described themselves independent themselves in an independent fact organisation, themselves in an independent f'in organisation, themselves in an independent f'in young organisation, themselves in an independent f'in young menanisation, themselves in an independent f'in young men who tion, themselves in an independent f'in young men who claim they 1 in 5 young men who claim they are unaccompanied children are actually adults, 1 in 5. so so in that, in that centre, i don't know how many people are actually there, but you know, a good chunk are going to be actually adults. yeah. and we know a lot of asylum seekers, illegal asylum seekers have they've they've children. illegal asylum seekers have the they've y've children. illegal asylum seekers have the they've raped children. illegal asylum seekers have the they've raped women dren. illegal asylum seekers have the they've raped women .ren. illegal asylum seekers have the they've raped women . they've >> they've raped women. they've murdered people. they've stabbed people. we've got of people. now we've got enough of that here with our own that going on here with our own home criminals. we not home grown criminals. we do not need to it. and you say need to import it. and you say the will be there. the cops the cops will be there. the cops won't be anywhere near. >> actually very difficult >> it's actually very difficult for police to there for the police to get there because they haven't got a base there. >> there's nobody there. and these boys know that these these boys will know that these boys, men will boys, these men will know exactly was a parent exactly that. if i was a parent
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in area, i'd very, very worried. >> yeah. benjamin i mean, are you genuinely dismissing the views of those local residents? i mean, a saturday i mean, it was a saturday afternoon. i went down there. i was expecting of was expecting a couple of people, at 15 or 20 people people, at least 15 or 20 people turned up. there is a massive, all different ages, different genders, you know, genders, everything you know, from of different from a variety of different backgrounds. mean, them backgrounds. i mean, all of them concerned they're keen concerned and they're very keen to well. look there's to stress as well. look there's nothing racist it far nothing racist about it as far as they're concerned. it is genuinely security issue. it's genuinely a security issue. it's a issue, and they've a security issue, and they've not consulted. it's also not been consulted. it's also there's a of there's also a lack of consultation, right ? consultation, right? >> i think talking about these people like they wild, people like they are wild, dangerous animals that couldn't be controlled inherently be controlled is inherently racist. and that is where the concern comes from. >> do you want to read if they had if they had read the list of some of they had it. >> sorry, but let me just >> i'm sorry, but let me just described if that venue had been filled with people at 12, 18 months who were white and months ago who were white and had from i bet you had come from ukraine, i bet you you would not have this response. yes, bet you they couldn't. >> they would not be criticised. >> they would not be criticised. >> women came from ukraine
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>> women that came from ukraine and is only men. so and this is only young men. so there big difference. there is a big difference. there and be filled with and it used to be filled with people who, dare i it. do people who, dare i say it. do you think that response would be the the local community the same for the local community if white europeans? if they were white europeans? >> you think they would >> you think that they would still fact is still take that? the fact is that we let we let the we let the ethnic minorities from the middle drown the channel middle east drown in the channel while welcome from middle east drown in the channel while on elcome from middle east drown in the channel while on the me from middle east drown in the channel while on the eurostar. from middle east drown in the channel while on the eurostar. thatm middle east drown in the channel while on the eurostar. that is ukraine on the eurostar. that is a racist by this country a racist policy by this country in channel, all of the time in the channel, all of the time they choose to get in those boats and we go out to save the ones that we can. >> so stop talking about, like we them to their death. we we lead them to their death. we don't sound one of the big don't sound like one of the big things this. things for me about this. >> there and i was saying >> i was there and i was saying to those people, look, you know, have contacted your local have you contacted your local mp? contacted your mp? have you contacted your local of me can local council? part of me can understand bit some understand a bit why some members council members of the local council don't really there's a lot don't really care. there's a lot of only on the left of people only on the left there. of members of the there. a lot of members of the local council, really local council, not not really ultra reliant those ultra reliant on those individual people's votes. but the party at the the conservative party at the moment single vote moment needs every single vote they get. you alan they can get. you got alan whatley there, is local whatley there, who is the local mp and put it to
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mp there, and we even put it to her today. we said, look, you know, people, people are know, we people, people are actively to vote against know, we people, people are ac because to vote against know, we people, people are acbecause of to vote against know, we people, people are ac because of this, ote against know, we people, people are ac because of this, becauseist know, we people, people are ac because of this, because she it because of this, because she doesn't really seem to be doing too about it. didn't really too much about it. didn't really bother seem be that bothered bother seem to be that bothered about is going about it. i mean, what is going on know, are they just on here, you know, are they just under of the home under the thumb of the home office? they i what's office? are they i mean, what's going on? office? are they i mean, what's goiiwell,? office? are they i mean, what's goiiwell, i think, i think this >> well, i think, i think this is where reform sweeps in, isn't it. you know, if you have it. they you know, if you have a local mp who isn't willing to listen issue and listen to you on this issue and you party like reform, you have a party like reform, that's they to that's how they manage to capitalise it capitalise on this. i think it is a real problem that if you capitalise on this. i think it is aaeal problem that if you capitalise on this. i think it is aa localoblem that if you capitalise on this. i think it is aa local person:hat if you capitalise on this. i think it is aa local person andif you capitalise on this. i think it is aa local person and you're are a local person and you're representative won't listen to you, problem. you, that's a huge problem. >> i'll stick >> everything i'll just stick with you quickly on this, because single person that because every single person that tries in and this tries to stay in the uk and this has included, know, rapists has included, you know, rapists and that and murderers and all of that stuff and stuff hides behind the echr and the a variety of the rights to a variety of different which are fair different things which are fair enough, way, like human enough, by the way, i like human rights. as a rule, rights. they are, as a rule, a good thing. but then i wonder about about these people's good thing. but then i wonder about rights?)out these people's good thing. but then i wonder about rights? the these people's good thing. but then i wonder about rights? the people eople's good thing. but then i wonder about rights? the people who e's human rights? the people who live not the live there? can they not sue the government or home office government or the home office and me, we've got, and say, excuse me, we've got, you load completely you know, a load of completely random middle east random chaps in the middle east
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who plunked on who you've just plunked on us here, we are less safe as a here, and we are less safe as a result. my kids are going to school. who's paying the school. who's paying for the extra the school? extra security for the school? well, able sue extra security for the school? welgovernment? able sue the government? >> a fashionable cause, >> it's not a fashionable cause, though, it, that's though, is it, patrick? that's the i think the difference. i don't think he's to very far with he's going to get very far with the the european judges. the with the european judges. >> that people >> remember that people coming from have from various countries have different and different different cultures and different values people values to the people in this country. you for them, country. so, you know, for them, if a woman, it if they attack a woman, it probably isn't a serious as where come it is where they come from as it is here. but i'm sorry, we can't we can't that happen. can't allow that to happen. >> mike, i think my >> i think, mike, i think my overriding, overarching concern is for is let's just not wait for things actually before things to actually happen before we just see we act. maybe let's just see what's towards try we act. maybe let's just see wha get towards try we act. maybe let's just see wha get in towards try we act. maybe let's just see wha get in there )wards try we act. maybe let's just see wha get in there first.; try we act. maybe let's just see wha get in there first. but try and get in there first. but kent, kent council leader kent, kent county council leader is quite difficult to say that. roger said that the roger gough said that the council legal council was fulfilling its legal obugafion obligation to house as many unaccompanied seeking unaccompanied asylum seeking children uas children as children or uas children as possible. as required possible. he added as required by the courts, kcc has been working closely with the home office on the provision of appropriate levels of accommodation to meet the required anticipated need. a total nine properties across total of nine properties across kent have been identified as suitable for use as new uas
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children. reception centres ring fenced central government funding will be provided to meet ofsted regulations and the ongoing management of these new accommodations, so that they will not present a additional unfair burden on kent taxpayers as with existing reception centres, they will all be run by kcc employees and will have stringent security and safeguarding controls in place . safeguarding controls in place. they will be used to accommodate and care for uas children until they are transferred to another uk authorities under the nts . by uk authorities under the nts. by bringing these properties into use reception centres , use as new reception centres, the council believes it will be better placed to meet the requirements of the ruling requirements of the court ruling and statutory under and its statutory duties under the children's act 1989. right coming up, inclusivity flags for 21 genders and sexualities at one of the country's worst performing nhs trusts. our nhs bodies and bosses taking the absolute you know what? my panel returned to tackle that as we get stuck into the first of tomorrow's newspaper front
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pages. next, raf jets pages. but next, raf jets scrambled to block 300 missiles, launched by iran. but what right do we have to tell israel not to defend itself? tory mp james heappey has just resigned as armed forces minister. i will ask him if we really are on the precipice of world war iii. it's patrick christys tonight on
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gb news. welcome back to patrick christys. tonight, a very first look at all of tomorrow's newspaper front pages is coming up. but first, rishi sunak has today called for restraint after iran launched an unprecedented drone attack on israel over the weekend . weekend. >> the middle east is thousands of miles away . it has >> the middle east is thousands of miles away. it has a >> the middle east is thousands of miles away . it has a direct of miles away. it has a direct effect on our security and prosperity at home, so we are working urgently with our allies to de—escalate the situation and prevent further bloodshed . all prevent further bloodshed. all sides must show restraint . sides must show restraint. >> the attack was largely unsuccessful, with american and british raf jets scrambling to intercept and shoot down some of the 300 iranian missiles bound for israel. but the world could now be standing on the precipice of world war iii, after israel has vowed to hit back at iran. i'm joined now by the former armed forces minister and outgoing tory mp james heappey, who stood down from his role last month . james, look, thank last month. james, look, thank you very, very much. want to
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you very, very much. i want to talk to you first about our preparedness for some major conflict . i see that the size of conflict. i see that the size of the uk armed forces has shrunk by more than 7000 personnel in a yean by more than 7000 personnel in a year, damning figures for uk military recruitment, 54% giving up apparently up on the process. apparently we've lowered the entry requirements. i mean, are we actually ready for anything? >> yeah, i mean, i think you have to make a distinction between are we ready to react to moments of geopolitical crisis that come along, such as what happened on the weekend? and we were, you know, we had typhoon that were forward based in cyprus , typhoon that were cyprus, typhoon that were forward based in romania , as forward based in romania, as well as those that were at high readiness here in the uk. and all of the supporting assets, and they were able to move forward respond . so it's got forward and respond. so it's got to be careful not to paint too dim a picture where we need to start reinvesting is that in the cold war , we had the capacity to cold war, we had the capacity to do full on state, on state
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warfare. we had the plan for generating the follow on forces that would be generated as a war went on, and we've kind of got out of the habit of making those plans. >> yeah. and i'm just hearing now that on the front of tomorrow's daily telegraph, which we'll be coming to a little bit, ben wallace is on there saying we must stand up to iranian bullies. now that a iranian bullies. now that is a different tone to what our prime minister is saying. ben wallace, of course, stood down very well. respected man. you are also a very well respected man. and you stood fundamentally stood down. do you fundamentally disagree with the prime minister on serious matters involving our armed forces, no, i don't, i don't think i disagree. in fact, i think that , both ben and the i think that, both ben and the prime minister can be right in what they're saying at the same time. so i don't think that you want to encourage any sort of escalation, but you can stand up
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to the bully by saying that if you come at israel again, we will continue to repel you. so i think there's a sort of i don't necessarily think that ben and the prime minister are making opposing arguments necessarily. >> ever have >> did you ever have conversations with rishi sunak about more funding about the need for more funding for forces? for our armed forces? >> yes i did, how did they go? well, they were the well, they were in the leadership election be leadership election and to be fair he said he was fair to him, he said he was not making same commitment making the same commitment as liz made to us. and was that liz had made to us. and was that wrong when we stood? yeah, it was, it was. i mean, i think, you know, i've made no secret of this that 2.5% of gdp on defence is needed right now, the consequence of inflationary pressures and whatever else has been going on over the last couple of years means that, you know, the mod is looking for savings at the moment when it really shouldn't be. i mean, it should be kind of looking at the very least, getting the force that we've got into the best possible fighting shape, not looking reduce it any
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looking to reduce it any further, and actually i think that what should also happen now is that a commitment is made to increase defence spending by the end of the decade to 3. that would then allow people in the mod to start designing a force that you could afford with that extra money. >> why do you think he didn't listen to you? what was it, well, when you are well, i think when you are a prime minister, you have to make constant choices. and, you know, and i've watched many, many hours of gb news when my colleagues have sat here saying what the people want is tax cuts. i've also seen colleagues on tv saying what the people want is new schools in their constituencies or new hospitals . constituencies or new hospitals. so i just i don't think you've got to be careful to not sort of criticise people for making choices, especially when our own backbenchers are demanding so many different things. >> those things matter, though, does it? if we have things like, you know, a royal navy with
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ships that can't go to sea or trident missile failures or an raf saying that they don't want any more , you know, useless any more, you know, useless white male pilots, but not actually being able to get enough recruits. and if we know all of this stuff, presumably, presumably countries like russia and china know all of this stuff about us. and i think that is a concern, isn't it? it is, it is. >> and look, it's i would argue that the first priority for any government is the defence and security of the realm. and and therefore, when it comes to a group of colleagues demanding tax cuts, a group of colleagues demanding more investment in the nhs, a group of colleagues demanding more investment, whatever time whatever else that at a time like the like this, where the geostrategic trends are towards more more more instability and more insecurity, then the investment has to be in favour a bit about about that, because, look, we as it stands, israel have said that they are going to hit back in some way.
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>> we it remains to be seen what thatis >> we it remains to be seen what that is . how far should we go in that is. how far should we go in support of israel? there's calls of restraint. israel needs to show restraint. if 300 missiles and drones had just been fired at england over the weekend, i don't think there would be that many calls in this country for a huge amounts of restraint. actually, what should we do to back israel if they decide to go massive in iran ? should we be massive in iran? should we be there? should we be putting troops on the ground with them? what should we do? >> look, i mean, i think >> no, look, i mean, i think that definitely not what we that is definitely not what we should saying front. should be saying up front. i think what last week showed was , think what last week showed was, is a combination of very capable intelligence agencies got ahead of whatever the iranians were planning, and there was a reinforcement of the region led by the us central command, that a number of allies subscribed to. and the consequence was that what could have been a sort of pearl harbour type moment was
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99% repelled. and they and as a consequence, gives israel the opportunity to not respond and escalate . now, israel may still escalate. now, israel may still choose to do so. i think the uk should be absolutely clear in our resolve to continue to be willing to defend israel from these attacks. i also think for i suspect your your audience has less mixed views on this than some other broadcasters . but i some other broadcasters. but i think you can make a distinction between what you think of israel's actions in gaza and what you think is right in terms of defending israel from a from a hostile state, in a direct state on state attack. we there's no way in the world, patrick, that we want to choose a course of action that that that probably leads to war always our priority must be to try and do you support them in defensive action, less so in
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offensive action. yeah look, i think i think your question was, should we be making a commitment to mean, to go with the israelis? i mean, i we should. okay. i don't think we should. okay. >> thank you much. >> james, thank you very much. pleasure to have on the pleasure to have you on the show. pleasure. thank you show. my pleasure. thank you very, that is the ex very, very soon. that is the ex minister the forces minister for the armed forces that james heappey. look coming up, we get the frank reactions that james heappey. look coming upthee get the frank reactions that james heappey. look coming upthe peoplea frank reactions that james heappey. look coming upthe people of'ank reactions that james heappey. look coming upthe people of'ank |after)ns of the people of hull after their flags their nhs trust displayed flags for and sexualities. for 21 genders and sexualities. >> ridiculous . there's nurses >> ridiculous. there's nurses singing about the wages. >> ridiculous. there's nurses singing about the wages . and singing about the wages. and we've got wings on hospitals that need building the show this and the shard, that and the shard. flag got to do shard. what's the flag got to do with anything? and another horrific australia. horrific attack in australia. >> yeah, but first i've got the very first of tomorrow's newspaper front pages hot off the press with my panel.
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welcome back to patrick christys. tonight, i have got the very first of tomorrow's newspaper front pages for you. now let's do it . we're going now let's do it. we're going with the independent. pm urges
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restraint and doubles down on support for israel. rishi sunak confirms raf typhoon shot down iranian drones. let's go to the metro . trump's historic criminal metro. trump's historic criminal trial. this is an outrage i acts trial. this is an outrage! acts us president's fury as he appeared in court. us president's fury as he appeared in court . we go to the appeared in court. we go to the eye now. britain and us tell netanyahu . don't start a world netanyahu. don't start a world war with iran. revenge david cameron is flying to israel for urgent peace talks in an effort to bring the prime minister back from the brink of sparking wider conflict with iran. all eyes on israel and iran. let's go to the daily mail now. israel and iran. let's go to the daily mail now . banned trans daily mail now. banned trans women from female sports. an impassioned article for the mail culture secretary calls on on sports bodies to ring fence elite competitions. i mean , the elite competitions. i mean, the headune elite competitions. i mean, the headline does a lot of the talking for you there. really. let's go to the sun, holly in £1 million ring of steel, let's go to the sun, holly in £1 million ring of steel , netflix million ring of steel, netflix will throw a £1 million ring of
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steel around holly willoughby on her new show, bear hunt. the host holly, co—star bear grylls and at least ten celebs are due to fly to costa rica this month. hey! well, apparently they're not the only ones because the government is looking to do a deal costa rica and that deal with costa rica and that would. now a show. holly would. now that's a show. holly willoughby seeker willoughby in the asylum seeker hotel. let's go to the daily telegraph. was must telegraph. wallace was must stand up for iranian bullies. two iranian bullies. sorry, west must stand up to iranian bullies and 50 mps to rebel against rishi sunak smoking ban . so yes, rishi sunak smoking ban. so yes, a rebellion on may i just add , a rebellion on may i just add, they're one of only two actual things he put in his conference speech in manchester and could be strong rebellion . be facing a 50 strong rebellion. well, there we are. i'm joined now by my press pack daily express columnist carole malone, journalist and broadcaster benjamin butterworth, and the daily political editor daily express political editor sam lister. i'm not going to focus on holly willoughby's ring of steel. instead, i am going to talk a little bit about what's on the front of the telegraph. i think, because it is wallace,
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our former defence secretary, saying the west must to stand up iranian bullies. well, james heappey on a little bit earlier on, they're not. carol, you know, if 300 missiles had just been fired at manchester or london or liverpool, i don't think world has right to think the world has a right to tell us show restraint onto tell us to show restraint onto that, does it? in this situation, should israel situation, how should israel respond? apparently, benjamin netanyahu been taking netanyahu has not been taking calls foreign ministers at calls from foreign ministers at the moment. >> know ben wallace is >> yeah, i know ben wallace is saying hit back saying we've got to hit back twice as hard. and, you know, it frightens i that frightens me when i hear that kind of because you kind of kind of talk because you kind of know where go. however, know where it could go. however, if don't hit back at people if you don't hit back at people like bullies iran and like it, bullies in iran and putin's they're putin's bullies, they're going to what they do, to keep on doing what they do, threatening us, carrying us. and sunak kotlin. that's what we sunak is kotlin. that's what we were talking about before, wasn't it really iran that we're frightened to offend people in different in case they different countries in case they hurt us? iran could hurt us any time they want to. so i think something has to be done. thy only someone maybe smarter than me can answer this here. don't look at me. >> well, but no, i wasn't.
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>> well, but no, i wasn't. >> i was looking at sam, but, you when you notice you know, when you give notice of sending drones across to a country, you know, those drones are going to be intercepted. why would you do that? >> well, well, i don't know. i don't know, really. obviously, i'm the mind, thankfully, i'm not in the mind, thankfully, of ayatollah, why of the ayatollah, but but why would of the ayatollah, but but why wotbecause you of the ayatollah, but but why wolbecause you know of the ayatollah, but but why wotbecause you know that they're >> because you know that they're going stopped. >> because you know that they're goiiyeah. stopped. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> and it's it's nothing's >> and it's and it's nothing's going happen. and they've going to happen. and now they've caused, some caused, i think, to give some comfort that are comfort to people that are worried idea of world worried about the idea of world war three. >> w- w- war three. >> it was not just the >> you know, it was not just the us the but jordan and us and the uk, but jordan and saudi arabia. yes. stepped in to stop, try and stop iran's actions saturday and actions on saturday night. and so people that are not so there are people that are not traditional allies in traditional allies of israel in the middle east who are trying to stop, but also ben, some of their traditional allies are against them on this. >> yeah. yeah, exactly. >> yeah. yeah, exactly. >> can i ask you your >> so, so can i ask you your your views this? because the your views on this? because the way at it, just to way i looked at it, just to localise it really and make it a bit about britain is that bit more about britain is that saturday. so hours before iran launched, more of launched, we had yet more of the pro—palestine mob out just pro—palestine mob out there just on streets, making on the streets, making everyone's a misery. and
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everyone's life a misery. and i just thought, it's one thing talking about israel's actions in but how earth do you in gaza, but how on earth do you justify going up and coming out against israel when that very evening, another sovereign nafion evening, another sovereign nation attempt to wipe them off the map? if the iron dome didn't exist , israel the map? if the iron dome didn't exist, israel wouldn't exist. >> yeah, that is true. and luckily, because israel is, a nafion luckily, because israel is, a nation that has rightly had to be paranoid for so long, it has the iron dome and these amazing defences and thank heavens for that. but yeah, i think you make a really good point, patrick. you know, on our streets, week in, week out, we are seeing protests which are, let's be fair, peaceful and fair, are largely peaceful and i don't want to besmirch everybody on those marches. but there are a significant number people a significant number of people on are clearly, on them who are clearly, espousing views that we would not really should not be tolerated. >> they become harder . can i >> they become harder. can i just i know we could talk about this all but i do just this all night, but i do just want this want to rattle on to this because patients royal stoke because patients at royal stoke hospital on trent hospital in stoke on trent have expressed banner expressed outrage at a banner featuring than for featuring more than 21 flags for different genders and sexualities . so the more
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sexualities. so the more familiar rainbow gay pride flag appears on the banner alongside flags for lesser known identities , including and bear identities, including and bear with me here, demi romantic, genderqueer. but given that the royal stoke hospital is among the worst performing in the country as the nhs got its priorities in order, gb news reporter anna riley went out and about and asked the people of hull what they made of the bannen >> look, i don't think it's i don't think they should be focusing on like the lgbtq and stuff at hospitals stuff like that at hospitals because to focus on because they need to focus on like much doctors are like how much the doctors are getting paid. >> i would think, know, for >> i would think, you know, for lgbtq people, they need to know they are welcome at the nhs, whatever issues they've got, they need to know are they need to know they are supported. so i don't have a problem with the nhs displaying those . those flags. >> it's ridiculous. there's nurses singing about the wages and we've got wings on hospitals that need building . the show that need building. the show this and the show that and the show there. what's the flag got to do with anything?
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>> okay. so i'm just going to show you a couple of flags quickly if you guess quickly see if you can guess what home. that is what these are at home. that is a demi romantic flag. yeah. not even shall even sure what that is. shall we have the have a look at what the polysexual to? it's polysexual are up to? oh, it's that. shall have a look that. and shall we have a look at the asexual flag? oh, no, that's shame, it? the that's a shame, isn't it? the asexuals, right. lovely asexuals, right. okay. lovely stuff did the bbc do stuff coming up. did the bbc do labour favour editing labour a big favour by editing out a key part of the interview with scandal hit angela rayner. my with scandal hit angela rayner. my panel debate that in tonight's britain tonight's greatest britain and union but next, british union jackass. but next, british kids nicking a coppers car. stop playing this song. it makes me at least the song's a banger. but what has our country become? stay tuned for that unbelievable story. plus more of tomorrow's front page. i'll see you in a sec.
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welcome back to patrick christys . tonight. i've got more front pages for you . we go to the
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pages for you. we go to the daily express. sam list is on the front where you get in, can we now outlaw iran's terror force in the uk? good stuff that sam . well done. right, let's go sam. well done. right, let's go to the daily mirror, anti—social thug menace. this is street yobs, victims live in fear. murdered man's widow calls for a new law to support stricken families. we've got the guardian. iran attack will be met with a response . as israeli met with a response. as israeli general. they also talk there about trump in the new york court as a hush money trial begins. we go to the times to round off your front pages . pm round off your front pages. pm rejects mounting calls to ban iran group keeping diplomatic links is vital, says sunak. this is , as sam has so eloquently is, as sam has so eloquently expressed on the front of the daily express, called widespread calls not unreasonable calls, may i add, for iran's revolutionary guards to be labelled as a terrorist group , labelled as a terrorist group, possible problem with that is we have the islamic centre of
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england, who, by the way, deny any wrongdoing right here in london, in maida vale, and if they pledge allegiance to the islamic revolutionary guard, then presumably we'd have to ban them as well. but there we go. i am joined by, carole malone, express columnist. i've also got journalist and broadcaster benjamin butterworth and the political the express, political editor at the express, sam lister . political editor at the express, sam lister. but political editor at the express, sam lister . but now british sam lister. but now british society really is a sorry society really is in a sorry state. let me set the scene for you.so state. let me set the scene for you. so over in rochdale, a police officer left his vehicle in order to detain a man in a nearby shop. well done, that coppen nearby shop. well done, that copper. and how the local copper. and how did the local area show their gratitude? a group of kids nicked his car. what stop playing this song. >> it makes me. i can't what stop playing this song. >> it makes me . i can't stop. >> it makes me. i can't stop. stop all in the car. >> okay, now this gets worse. so greater manchester police told us they believe they have identified the individual for further action. not taking any
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yet, though, carol, what would have happened if you'd have done that when you were a kid? >> well , the copper would have >> well, the copper would have got me by the scruff of the neck, kicked my backside into the another police car, neck, kicked my backside into the take another police car, neck, kicked my backside into the take me nother police car, neck, kicked my backside into the take me to :her police car, neck, kicked my backside into the take me to the police car, neck, kicked my backside into the take me to the station:ar, neck, kicked my backside into the take me to the station .ir, and, take me to the station. it's just no wonder kids do this if no deterrent, there if there's no deterrent, there has be a deterrent. why has to be a deterrent. why haven't arrested him? haven't they arrested him? what's the excuse? did they say when them? what's the excuse? did they say wh no, no. >> no, no. >> did you call them? you probably didn't. >> know got >> you probably know i've got other do that. other people to do that. >> no i have no, no, but we did. no, reached out and they no, we reached out and they said, we've identified the said, yeah, we've identified the person. like, well, said, yeah, we've identified the persoyou like, well, said, yeah, we've identified the persoyou have like, well, said, yeah, we've identified the persoyou have youe, well, said, yeah, we've identified the persoyou have you donel, have you done have you done anything that anything about that then? >> my house a couple >> no. well, my house a couple years ago, the cops said, oh, we've the fingerprints. we've got the fingerprints. >> who i said, >> we know who did it. i said, well, got him under lock well, i've got him under lock and no. yeah. well, i've got him under lock ancsam, no. yeah. well, i've got him under lock ancsam, whateah. well, i've got him under lock ancsam, what do. well, i've got him under lock ancsam, what do you of >> sam, what do you make of this? is this you know, the this? is this not, you know, the complete and utter you've got a burglary or shoplifting event complete and utter you've got a bu something shoplifting event complete and utter you've got a bu something shorthat.g event complete and utter you've got a busomething shorthat. it'sent or something like that. it's taking and or something like that. it's takinthe and or something like that. it's takinthe police and or something like that. it's takinthe police turn and or something like that. it's takinthe police turn up. and or something like that. it's takinthe police turn up. they then the police turn up. they have a thankless task, don't they? you your car they? you leave your car unlocked, nick it. >> oh, look, it.— >> oh, look, i've it. >> oh, look, i've always got a great deal of sympathy for the police really police because it's a really
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tough it's an episode of >> but it's like an episode of keystone cops. this isn't it? i mean, it's just of a sitcom mean, it's just kind of a sitcom esque its ludicrousness. i esque in its ludicrousness. i mean, i do there is a kind esque in its ludicrousness. i meyoui do there is a kind esque in its ludicrousness. i meyou know, there is a kind esque in its ludicrousness. i meyou know, yowere is a kind esque in its ludicrousness. i meyou know, you go is a kind esque in its ludicrousness. i meyou know, you go fora kind esque in its ludicrousness. i meyou know, you go for the nd of, you know, you go for the easy pickings, you? i, easy pickings, don't you? i, once for riding a once got stopped for riding a bike over a pavement on a bridge. joking. are bridge. you're joking. you are joking. and it joking. i'm not joking. and it was afternoon, and there was a sunny afternoon, and there were the bridge were six coppers on the bridge in the waiting for all in the middle waiting for all the of people the way the kind of people on the way home. nabbing them and home. and then nabbing them and fining six coppers fining them so six coppers can go you know, go and nab a load of, you know, middle workers middle class workers on their way on bike. they can't way home on a bike. they can't arrest a kid who nicks their own car. >> all these maniacs on electric bikes, pavement. bikes, on pavement. >> is that. yeah. >> well, there is that. yeah. i just think the deterrent shouldn't law. shouldn't need to be the law. >> should be their parents. >> it should be their parents. yeah. know, yourself. yeah. you know, i yourself. i wouldn't done as a kid wouldn't have done that as a kid because be terrified of the because i'd be terrified of the consequences when i went back through door. consequences when i went back thr(yeah, door. exactly. now, consequences when i went back thr(yeand door. exactly. now, consequences when i went back thr(yeand we're r. exactly. now, consequences when i went back thr(yeand we're justactly. now, consequences when i went back thr(yeand we're just aboutlow, consequences when i went back thr(yeand we're just about got look. and we're just about got time very serious time for this very serious story. sydney been story. okay, so, sydney has been rocked shock stabbing rocked by another shock stabbing just after people just two days after six people were to death by a were knifed to death by a schizophrenic shopping schizophrenic man in a shopping centre away. a 15 year centre 20 miles away. a 15 year old boy, apparently already known police , repeatedly
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known to police, repeatedly stabbed a bishop in the face and neck whilst he was preaching. the attacker was seen smiling after the attack as worshippers restrained him. now, until now , restrained him. now, until now, knife crime in australia has been a historically low levels after the horrific assault, protesters rioted outside the church, smashed windows and bottles and were apparently, throwing bricks as well , four throwing bricks as well, four people were injured, actually, they were saying , bring people were injured, actually, they were saying, bring him out, i think because he was still being held in the church some what's happening in australia is incredibly concerning. >> i feel so sorry for the people of australia. i mean, it's a it's a huge nation geographically, but a small nafion geographically, but a small nation in terms of population . nation in terms of population. and i think it's not a crime fidden and i think it's not a crime ridden nation. it's not used to these scenes. and these kind of scenes. and obviously such obviously to have two such shocking attacks in quick succession, i think must be really horrific. >> mob. if you're >> that's the mob. if you're watching youtube, watching us on tv or youtube, then is the mob out. so then this is the mob out. so i say mob. really, it's angry locals, isn't really angry locals, isn't it? really angry people church where people outside the church where this was held? this individual was held? i mean, of the mean, the footage of the incident itself as well,
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benjamin, absolutely ghastly, incident itself as well, benj.it? n, absolutely ghastly, incident itself as well, benj.it? when bsolutely ghastly, incident itself as well, benj.it? when you utely ghastly, incident itself as well, benj.it? when you seey ghastly, incident itself as well, benj.it? when you see thatistly, isn't it? when you see that people are just they're going about, you know, praying and worshipping, etc. and a bloke, there it is. now look at this. now the guy just approaches the bishop and wallop. >> so terrifying >> and what's so terrifying about you tell about it is you can tell that the bishop anticipating the bishop isn't anticipating that doesn't that to happen. he doesn't flinch walks flinch as the guy walks near thinking going ask thinking maybe he's going to ask something . and the kind something. and that's the kind of video will strike terror of video that will strike terror in australians, because they will that can will realise that this can happen situation , whether happen at any situation, whether it's the shopping centre at the weekend their place of weekend or in their place of worship today. >> but don't you think it's interesting that this country interesting that in this country we're it? now we're always immune to it? now they're they're en masse. i they're they're out en masse. i mean, you know, mean, they're, you know, the people their that. people of their good point that. >> yeah, a good point that >> yeah, it's a good point that we, never be at work if >> yeah, it's a good point that we,were never be at work if >> yeah, it's a good point that we,were out never be at work if >> yeah, it's a good point that we,were out protestingit work if >> yeah, it's a good point that we,were out protesting about: if we were out protesting about every uk. every stabbing in the uk. >> true, true, which >> it's true, it's true, which we wouldn't. >> right. it's time reveal >> right. it's time to reveal today's in today's greatest britain in union as . today's greatest britain in union as. carol, i begin union jack as. carol, i begin with you. your greatest britain please. >> okay. it's not one greatest britain. it's a lot of them, actually. lots of wonderful brits a day out. marking the 35th anniversary the
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35th anniversary of the hillsborough hillsborough disaster, observed a disaster, liverpool observed a minute's silence today to commemorate the 97 people who died. flags were being flown at half and a bell at the town half mast and a bell at the town hall tolled 97 times to represent the amount of people who were man and women and children who died on that day. >> right. okay. >> all right. okay. >> all right. okay. >> benjamin . >> benjamin. >> benjamin. >> mine is ashlee good an honorary greatest britain. this is who was killed at honorary greatest britain. this is westfield who was killed at honorary greatest britain. this is westfield in1o was killed at honorary greatest britain. this is westfield in australia.led at honorary greatest britain. this is westfield in australia .3d at honorary greatest britain. this is westfield in australia . and the westfield in australia. and her act of life was to her last act of life was to throw her baby into the arms of a stranger to save that baby's life. and i. you can't imagine the horror. but you know what a hero she was for saving her baby. >> yeah. no, indeed. absolutely. and sam, salman rushdie. >> defender of free >> true, a true defender of free speech to such an extent that he had to go into hiding for nine years. he's obviously lived most of life fear, and he's of his life in fear, and he's been about the recent been talking about the recent attack, which is obviously, as we see, left blind in we can see, left him blind in one eye. >> no, indeed. >> no, indeed. >> and i think especially relevant given was relevant as well, given what was going on at the moment. right. really for me to choose. really hard for me to choose. i am going to go for our greatest
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briton honorary briton to be an honorary one. and ashlee good the lady and it was ashlee good the lady whose act this world was and it was ashlee good the lady whithrow act this world was and it was ashlee good the lady whithrow a(babythis world was and it was ashlee good the lady whithrow a(baby to; world was and it was ashlee good the lady whithrow a(baby to safety. was to, throw her baby to safety. but any of those but realistically, any of those could won. we've could well have won. now we've not so who's your know, we've >> so who's your you know, we've talked tonight bbc new talked about tonight bbc new newsnight's editor newsnight's political editor nick edited out, edited nick watt. he edited out, edited out part of interview out a key part of an interview with rayner after with angela rayner after concerns from labour party concerns from the labour party that might damage so this that it might damage her so this supposedly impartial bbc edited an interview to help the labour party very quick. >> benjamin mine is the downing street. in turn, liz who street. in turn, liz truss, who has the rounds today has been doing the rounds today and threatened to run for and has threatened to run for tory again . she refused tory leader again. she refused to rule it out. don't think we need that. >> go on sam absolutely pains me to because a huge, to say this because i'm a huge, huge . huge fan. >> but ronnie o'sullivan, who has the snooker world has called for the snooker world championships to leave the crucible sheffield, which is crucible in sheffield, which is unforgivable in itself, but then to move to saudi arabia, which makes it doubly today's makes it doubly bad, today's winner nick. what can i just winner is nick. what can i just say? massive. thank you. great show. thank you, thank you, thank you very much. thank you to everyone watching and
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to everyone who's watching and listening. next. listening. headline is the next. i'm tomorrow at p.m. listening. headline is the next. i'm tomorrow at pm. you listening. headline is the next. i'm care.:omorrow at pm. you take care. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> hello again. welcome to the latest weather forecast from the met office. it's going to stay blustery over the next 24 hours, but less windy than it has been. and the showers will slowly ease as well. low pressure is pulling away . it's moving as well. low pressure is pulling away. it's moving east. as well. low pressure is pulling away . it's moving east. we've away. it's moving east. we've got high pressure arriving later in the week, but for the time being the weather stays very changeable, with showers or longer spells of rain moving through during the evening. many of showers actually of these showers will actually fade away after midnight, although some will continue down the north sea coast there 1 or 2 for northern ireland, parts of wales and central england, but otherwise plenty of drier and clearer weather emerging later in the night. a chill in the air first thing tuesday, but too
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breezy for most for a frost, and there'll be plenty of bright weather first thing, especially for scotland. northern england parts of western uk, but further cloud and showers will affect the north sea coast and showers will tend to bubble up elsewhere, particularly for northern ireland. parts of central and southern england , central and southern england, wales and northwest scotland. it's stay on the cold it's going to stay on the cold side, but temperatures a degree or so higher compared with monday's and less windy, so a bit more pleasant out there. another chilly start on wednesday, but again, plenty of sunshine . first thing turning sunshine. first thing turning cloudy and damp for northern ireland. showers emerging elsewhere but plenty of bright or at least drier weather in between the showers. and then as we go through the latter half of the week, things do slowly turn dnen the week, things do slowly turn drier, more settled and warmer. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather
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gb news. >> in a moment. headliners but first, mps have tonight voted to reject multiple house of lords amendments to the government's flagship rwanda bill. >> eyes to the right. >> eyes to the right. >> 315. >> 315. >> the noes to the left, 250. >> the noes to the left, 250. >> so the ayes have it. the ayes have it. unlock >> that followed a debate in the house of commons tonight. mps dismissing all the changes the lords had raised a number of concerns, including age assessments, uk court jurisdiction and modern slavery concerns . but conservative mp concerns. but conservative mp sir william cash dubbed the proposed changes ridiculous. labour said the scheme was doomed to fail anyway. the bill will return to the lords tomorrow for further scrutiny . tomorrow for further scrutiny. now the prime minister is appealing to israel's leader to show restraint following iran's drone and missile attack . drone and missile attack. earlier, rishi sunak repeated the uk's support for israel but said he wanted to caution
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