gb news. >> hey. very good afternoon to you. it's 3 pm. and welcome to the martin daubney show on gb news. broadcasting live from the heart of westminster across heart of westminster all across the story today is the uk. our top story today is that a channel migrant has been stabbed to death at a camp near dunkirk after three brits were killed and an israeli drone strike on their aid convoy. the uk is being urged to suspend arms sales to israel. what will the government's response be and we'll cross live to the school where a muslim teacher branded westernised girls lunatics and suggested islam was going to take over. and you don't want to miss this because later in the show i'll be joined by that man,

lee anderson. i can't wait to hear he's got to say about hear what he's got to say about the war of words between reform uk conservatives plus, uk and the conservatives plus, he's spent plenty of time in those calais camps. that's all coming up in your hour. so coming up in your next hour. so as another man is tragically stabbed to death in the migrant camps along the french coast, i'm asking the question how crime ridden are these places? later in the show, i'll be joined by an investigative journalist who spent a lot of time there and will tell me this is the tip of the iceberg. is just the tip of the iceberg. lawless, full of human traffickers and criminal masterminds, thugs of all stripes. are these really the sort of people we want coming to our country, ransacking the french police , often too afraid french police, often too afraid to get near them or simply cannot stop them as they launch their craft. there's too much

money, too many weapons, and too much vested interest for this to carry on. lee anderson has spent time in those camps, too. he'll join me later in the show to give me the full inside story. get in touch all the usual ways. vaiews@gbnews.com but first, let's kick off the show. it's time for your news headlines with sam francis . with sam francis. >> martin, thank you and very good afternoon to you. the headunes good afternoon to you. the headlines from the gb newsroom just after 3:00, the family of british aid worker john just after 3:00, the family of british aid workerjohn chapman , british aid worker john chapman, who was killed by an israeli airstrike in gaza, says he will forever be a hero and that he died trying to help people . the died trying to help people. the bodies of mr chapman, along with james henderson and james kirby, are now being transported out of gaza. those three british nationals died when their convoy was hit as they were delivering vital food supplies in the region. they were part of a group of seven aid workers from the world central kitchen ngo. foreign secretary lord david cameron must be more

cameron says there must be more to be done to ensure the safe passage of aid into gaza. >> i welcome what the israeli foreign minister said yesterday to me about a full, urgent and transparent inquiry into how this dreadful event was allowed to happen and we want to see that happen very, very quickly. i also welcome the fact that he spoke about much more aid, getting into gaza, up to 500 trucks a day. that is essential . trucks a day. that is essential. we have been promised these things before, and this really needs to happen . needs to happen. >> there are growing >> well, there are growing international to hold international calls to hold israel to account for the deaths of those seven aid workers here in uk. the leader of the in the uk. the leader of the liberal democrats, sir ed davey, says the government should suspend the supply of arms. >> does israel has >> it does look like israel has broken humanitarian law and we really shouldn't be exporting arms to any country that breaks international humanitarian law. and the democrats have been calling for a long time for immediate bilateral ceasefire. the israelis have not listened to international pressure on

that. and so i think by ending british arms exports to israel, it would send a very, very powerful signal. >> well, to finland. now, where police say a 12 year old boy suspected of carrying out a shooting at a primary school yesterday had been bullied , yesterday had been bullied, which officers are treating as the motive. another student , the motive. another student, also aged 12, died in that shooting, which happened in a suburb of the capital, helsinki. two girls of the same age were also seriously hurt and an update on the situation in taiwan , where we now know that taiwan, where we now know that nine people have died and more than 800 injured after a major earthquake. there the biggest quake in 25 years. for those watching on television, this was the moment that the quake hit the moment that the quake hit the east . coast. well, as you the east. coast. well, as you can see there, those tremors were recorded as high as 7.7 magnitude around 8:00 this morning, just as people were

heading off to work and taking their children to school. rescue teams are now working into the night in search of any survivors . as we understand, more than 100 still thought to be 100 are still thought to be trapped in tunnels, under buildings, or stuck under landslides . here in the uk, landslides. here in the uk, questions are being asked about how a 43 year old man was able to commit two sex attacks years apart, despite receiving a jail sentence. farid issa tariq will spend 18 years in prison for raping a woman in swindon after he tricked her into accepting a ride in a fake taxi . he was ride in a fake taxi. he was previously jailed in 2012 for a near identical crime . a third of near identical crime. a third of people who have tried to book an appointment with a gp in the last month say that they've struggled to speak to someone , a struggled to speak to someone, a major new survey found. more than 31% found it difficult or very difficult contact a gp very difficult to contact a gp practice, and among those who did eventually manage to book an appointment, 20% reported having appointment, 20% reported having

a poor experience. a teacher who described girls from western backgrounds as lunatics has been banned from teaching indefinitely. an investigation found. aqib khan, who's from birmingham, told students that those who support feminism would be, he said, replaced by muslims. it's understood he also sent topless pictures of himself to messaging groups that included some students . the included some students. the teaching regulation agency says mr khan engaged in serious misconduct and undermined what have been described as fundamental british values . fundamental british values. royal mail is pushing the postal regulator to speed up reforms, including cutting back on second class deliveries to just three days a week. the postal service says urgent reforms are needed to cut costs following a major drop in demand, falling from 20 billion letters each year to just 7 billion. that plan, set to save £300 million annually, would also lead to a possible 1000 redundancies. the liberal democrats are among many who

have criticised the proposal, warning it could create a postage cost crisis for consumers . and finally, before consumers. and finally, before we head back to martin in westminster , network rail is to westminster, network rail is to invest £2.8 billion to protect railways from extreme weather following several high profile faults and delays. the government owned company says that it will recruit new engineers and train new staff to interpret weather forecasts. it's after several cases of delays and faults, including thousands of passengers who were stuck for hours on trains near paddington in december without power due to a fault with overhead wires . that's the overhead wires. that's the latest from the gb newsroom for now. sophia wenzler will have your next update at four at 330, in fact, in the meantime, you can sign up to gb news alerts. just scan the code on your screen or go to gbnews.com/alerts . gbnews.com/alerts. >> thank you sam. now we start

with the news that a channel migrant has been stabbed to death at a camp near dunkirk in france, and the incident happened just days after a gb news exclusive report warned of a deteriorating security situation in northern france , situation in northern france, which has seen french police regularly attacked and injured by migrants. well, i'm joined now by our home and security editor , mark white. mark, editor, mark white. mark, another tragic death in france. give us the details on this one. >> well, this incident took place at loon—plage, which is a camp near dunkirk on the railway tracks , not too far from the tracks, not too far from the beach area in dunkirk. tracks, not too far from the beach area in dunkirk . and what beach area in dunkirk. and what happened was emergency services got very, called to reports that a migrant had been stabbed on the outskirts of this camp . you the outskirts of this camp. you can see there pictures. we were there at loon—plage in december, had the drone up. we got some shots for you there. not too many people in the camp at that

point, because it had just been raided and cleared out by french police, and this happens from time to time. they move in, they clear out the camp. but, you know, sure as night follows day, the migrants are back in there within a few weeks. so at the moment we're in one of these penods moment we're in one of these periods where the camp is being cleared out. there's a couple of hundred migrants who are in loon—plage at the moment, and this incident, how it, erupted. we don't know. but when the emergency services arrived , they emergency services arrived, they found a migrant lying with multiple stab injuries to the chest area. they worked on him to try to save his life. but this migrant in his 30s was pronounced dead at the scene . pronounced dead at the scene. and this is not the first, by any means , a violent incident any means, a violent incident that's erupted in northern france in recent weeks. just a couple of weeks ago , we filmed couple of weeks ago, we filmed in dover in kent, when ,

in dover in kent, when, paramedics and others were there to await the arrival of a migrant boat with a migrant on board who had also been stabbed . board who had also been stabbed. this incident happened on a beach near calais. it's understood said, that the person who was stabbed had tried to get on a migrant boat without paying and had come across a criminal people smuggler, and that didn't end well, from him. so that's violence of migrant against migrant. but also set against that. martin is violent towards the french authorities, towards the french authorities, towards the police. as they try to get in and puncture these dinghies that has been growing in intensity in recent weeks as well . there was another incident well. there was another incident just on a beach near berlin, recently, where a group of about 350 mainly sudanese, vietnamese and other nationalities were there trying to stop the police

from reaching four boats that were about to launch. and as well as throwing sticks and stones at the police and other missiles, they also used some of the petrol they'd use for their journey across to the uk to light fires on the beaches, to stop the police from advancing , stop the police from advancing, to get a hold of those dinghies. >> and mark you paint a picture here of heavily armed well organised thugs, lots of money, lots of vested interest. often a police which seems unable or unwilling to cope because of the risks and the dangers. therefore, mark asked a very big question. are these really the sorts of people that we should be allowing to come to britain? >> well, i mean, in terms of individuals who are coming across that is a real question to be asked, because the fact is we simply don't know because the people, in these dinghies are instructed by the people smugglers to throw away their identifying documents, to and

effectively invent backstories that will stand them in the best possible position. really to get granted asylum. at the end of the day . and then that makes it the day. and then that makes it very difficult for uk authorities to be able to get a handle on who these people are and the potential risk that they pose , and they do. some of them pose, and they do. some of them pose, and they do. some of them pose a risk. we know that people that have come and claimed asylum have gone on to commit some horrific crimes, such as that acid attack in clapham in recent weeks, a number of terrorist attacks that have been committed by asylum seekers and failed asylum seekers as well, and other stabbings and sexual crimes that have been committed. that's not to say that everyone coming across, is bad . of course coming across, is bad. of course they're not. but the fact is, some are . and we don't know who some are. and we don't know who these people are, and just what

sort of risk they might pose. >> indeed, mark white, thank you for that update. comprehensive and excellent as ever. and later in the show, i'll be talking to a reporter who's also spent a in the show, i'll be talking to a r

stop exporting arms. to. >> lee kuan yew britain exports to israel in terms of arms, but we don't send them aircraft because the americans do that. we don't send them tanks because they build own . i suspect they build their own. i suspect they build their own. i suspect they have. they may call their own ammunition, although i'm not absolutely and that's absolutely sure. and so that's not answer . and the other not the answer. and the other aspect that, of is aspect of that, of course, is that we import arms from israel because israel is a world leading , in industrial terms, in leading, in industrial terms, in certain aspects like active protective systems for tanks, air defence systems and so on and so forth. so it's just not a case of us stopping sending stuff to them, even if that would be effective, because we need stuff from them . need stuff from them. >> and, stuart, i think a lot of people these days seem to think that war is a very precise, laser targeted , pinpoint, gps laser targeted, pinpoint, gps driven, active city. but could you tell us in in actuality , in

you tell us in in actuality, in the theatre of war, can tragic accidents like this sadly be a consequence? >> unfortunately, all the time. and i can't think of any conflict where there hasn't been some sort of accidental tragedy, which has occurred, you know, going back to my own days in the first iraq war, there were the nine british infantrymen killed by friendly fire, so—called friendly fire attack, as they crossed into iraq . again, crossed into iraq. again, a terrible tragedy. i'm sure the american pilot responsible can't live with himself because of that. live with himself because of that . but it live with himself because of that. but it happens all the time, gps guided weaponry and other types of inertial navigation and so on and so forth have certainly improved the accuracy of weapon systems . the accuracy of weapon systems. but, you know, not everything is clear. and war, war is chaos. and it's the military's job mainly to bring some sort of order to that chaos. but it cannot ever be perfect and therefore do you think that this incident being used as a call to

strengthen calls for ceasefires , strengthen calls for ceasefires, to stop the exportation of weaponry, something which hamas would presumably be welcome, a disarmed or a less, better equipped is idf would be a dream for them. do you think that's a step too far? we have to accept this is a tragic accident. but we mustn't overreact. >> yes, i think we have to, accept that it's a tragic accident . and unless the accident. and unless the inevitable inquiry finds otherwise , and it looks to me otherwise, and it looks to me it's quite interesting that, in fact , i thought it's quite interesting that, in fact, i thought all it's quite interesting that, in fact , i thought all the it's quite interesting that, in fact, i thought all the vehicles were struck at once, but there were struck at once, but there were struck at once, but there were struck in three separate occasions over 1.5km or something. so whoever was responsible for targeting them and releasing the weapons from the drone made a big mistake. i don't think there's any sense in suggesting it was deliberate, because i can't see how a deliberate act like that would benefit anybody, and i don't. i don't subscribe to the idea that, the idf operator or unit has gone rogue. i think that's

just nonsense. there are far too professional for that. so i think it's naive to think that , think it's naive to think that, just by stopping, sending arms and other supplies to israel, that this will bring the whole thing to a conclusion . the thing to a conclusion. the problem is hamas, and, you know, we don't want to go back into history, but this all started this episode started in october seventh, and it was their responsibility. and now responsibility. and they're now reaping the whirlwind. and responsibility. and they're now reapin the e whirlwind. and responsibility. and they're now reapinthe poor rlwind. and responsibility. and they're now reapin the poor civilian and sadly, the poor civilian population of gaza is suffering immensely because of their actions . actions. >> and can i ask you a question that we asked yesterday, lieutenant colonel crawford , the lieutenant colonel crawford, the nofion lieutenant colonel crawford, the notion that something that the uk should consider now is a palestinian refugee scheme , akin palestinian refugee scheme, akin to the type of action that we've seen in the ukraine. a great many defence analysts have told us that could be a grave concern, because, of course , concern, because, of course, hamas would like nothing more than to melt into the civilian population and then be sent abroad, potentially to britain .

abroad, potentially to britain. do you think it would be a bad idea for such a notion to come to the uk? >> well, i think that a civilised society like ours should always be in a position to offer succour to those who are fleeing persecution or war or famine or something like that. the problem is that hamas is not a regular military organisation. it doesn't necessarily wear regular military uniforms, which is why they can, say what they like about civilian casualties in gaza. we'll never know because many of their fighters are in civilian clothes. and i think that we would just be importing trouble, with palestinian refugees unless us there was a really robust screening process where we could take out, the terrorists and i don't know enough about that to be able to comment further . comment further. >> okay. excellent stuff as even >> okay. excellent stuff as ever. thanks for joining >> okay. excellent stuff as ever. thanks forjoining us on ever. thanks for joining us on the show . and that's the former the show. and that's the former british army officer and defence analyst, colonel analyst, lieutenant colonel stuart crawford. very stuart crawford. thank you very much now we'll much for your time. now we'll have lots more on this tragic story throughout the show. and

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holborn academy in birmingham and we can cross there now and speak to our west midlands. reporter jack cotton. and jack, welcome to show . aqib khan welcome to the show. aqib khan struck off indefinitely and absolutely horrendous tale. tell us about it . us about it. >> yeah so really shocking stuff coming out from from harborne academy. and this decision by the teaching regulations agency whose panel is as you were mentioning there, martin banned a.q. khan from teaching in definitely for well they say unacceptable professional conduct and conduct which may well bring the teaching profession into disrepute. they do say that he undermined fundamental british values. let's just take a look at some of the things that the panel heard that he had done . they heard that he had done. they heard that he had done. they heard that he had done. they heard that he'd used words to the effect of saying that having a baby over the age of 30 was worse than cousin marriage, and that having a child and that child will most likely have disabilities . he also called

disabilities. he also called called girls that were westernised, lunatic hicks, saying that he didn't want to go out with a female doctor because she earned more than £70,000 and that was more than him. and also as well, the panel heard how he'd sent a topless photo to a microsoft teams group chat, which did involve students as part of a conversation where he was trying to tell his students of how to get girls. he was flexing in that photo that students received. it was actually a member of staff inside the academy that grew in their concerns around the conduct of mr khan, and then took that to the academy's own internal safeguarding portal and raised his concerns . there was raised his concerns. there was then an internal investigation by the school where they'd found suggestions of inappropriate religious views, as well as, they say, harmful comments about dating and about relationships. some those views, some of those other views, including , some of those other views, including, how some of those other views, including , how the soon the including, how the soon the likes of the uk , france and

likes of the uk, france and germany would become like birmingham in terms of the growing muslim population , and growing muslim population, and actually really interesting to hean actually really interesting to hear, around the actual panel itself and the hearing and some of the proceedings . now, mr of the proceedings. now, mr khan's representatives had put to the panel, to consider whether it should be proportionate to include things like the, like the likes of workload and of course, the stressful position that he was in. he had joined the school in december 2020, of course, during the pandemic , and these comments the pandemic, and these comments were investigated from may 2021 to march 2023. but the panel found that there was no evidence to suggest that that mr khan was acting under any kind of duress and that, in fact, the panel found to be found his actions to be calculated and motivated. so he has been banned the teaching has been banned by the teaching regulations agency indefinitely. he can appeal that decision at the earliest. at the high court in march 2026. >> and jack , he also criticised >> and jack, he also criticised feminism and what it's done to

modern britain. he also criticised british women for using abortion and is it interesting, jack, how the kind of things that he was talking about, about how muslims will be of things that he was talking aigreateryout how muslims will be of things that he was talking aigreater number muslims will be of things that he was talking aigreater number in uslims will be of things that he was talking aigreater number in the ns will be of things that he was talking aigreater number in the future. be a greater number in the future than people, that's than white people, that's normally a right conspiracy normally a right wing conspiracy theory. this is theory. and yet this is precisely what he was saying in classrooms , unfettered. and, classrooms, unfettered. and, jack, there must be a feeling locally that justice has been served here, certainly in terms of course , the views that this of course, the views that this man was presenting to his students. >> certainly i should think some some relief that, of course, he has been struck off off the books and off the record. but of course, there are those questions, aren't there, questions, martin, aren't there, that these that for almost two years these comments were being made towards his students and these likes of these images that, of course, these images that, of course, the panel heard were sent on microsoft teams on how to get girls. so this this went on for almost two years. we have asked harborne academy for a comment and have received nothing so

far. in terms of far. today in terms of a statement on, of course, the conduct of a chebe khan, the former english teacher here. but of course those questions would like to probably be answered by by parents as to how it took a member of staff in their own concerns , of course, to raise concerns, of course, to raise this before an internal investigation was launched . investigation was launched. >> okay. thank you very much, jack carson, for that superb report. and what's going on in birmingham. you know, ten years ago i covered the trojan horse scandal. for those who aren't aware of that, that was a story about a number of academies. six academies, indeed in the birmingham area, including parkview academy, that had been infiltrated by radical preachers, teachers teaching , preachers, teachers teaching, radical islam views. they were like morality police in the playground. i sent a reporter , playground. i sent a reporter, to there and people were living in fear. a teacher was excommunicated, left the profession, who blew the whistle on this? the authorities were

simply too afraid to listen to him. they pensioned him off, tried to tuck him up, but i got to him, told his story. those those schools eventually those schools were eventually closed down. it makes you wonder the question. how much of this is going on in british classrooms? how many of these incidents do we actually find about how will we ever know the truth? but certainly the tawdry case of this individual aqib khanis case of this individual aqib khan is one we should certainly be very, very aware of. now. there's lots more still to come between now and 4:00 and find out why veterans minister johnny mercer has been warned that he could sent to prison. the could be sent to prison. the deadune could be sent to prison. the deadline for that is 4 pm. roundabout in half an hour's time, plus , soon we'll be joined time, plus, soon we'll be joined in the studio by lee anderson . in the studio by lee anderson. his first interview since that war of words has broken out between reform and the tory party. will not want to miss that one. but first, let's kick off with news headlines and off with your news headlines and it's wenzler . it's sophia wenzler. >> thank you martin, good

afternoon . it's just after 330. afternoon. it's just after 330. your headlines from the gb newsroom , the family of british newsroom, the family of british aid worker john chapman, who was killed by an israeli airstrike in gaza, says he will forever be a hero and that he died trying to help people . the bodies of mr to help people. the bodies of mr chapman, along with james henderson and james kirby, are now being transported out of gaza. now being transported out of gaza . the three british gaza. the three british nationals died when their convoy was hit . as they were delivering was hit. as they were delivering vital food supplies. they were part of a group of seven aid workers from the world central kitchen ngo police in finland say a 12 year old boy suspected of carrying out a shooting at a school yesterday had been bullied, which officers are treating as the motive. another student, also aged 12, died in the shooting, which happened in a suburb of the capital helsinki. two girls of the same age were also seriously hurt . age were also seriously hurt. questions are being asked about how a 43 year old man was able to commit two sex attacks years

apart, despite receiving a jail sentence. fareed isa tariq will spend 18 years in prison for raping a woman in swindon after he tricked her into accepting a ride in a fake taxi. he was previously jailed in 2012 for a near identical crime . a third of near identical crime. a third of people who have tried to book an appointment with a gp in the last month say they've struggled to speak to someone, a major new survey more than 31% found survey found more than 31% found it difficult very difficult it difficult or very difficult to contact a gp practice, and among those who eventually did book an appointment, 20% reported having a poor experience . and a religious experience. and a religious charity is warning the scottish government against banning conversion therapy for lgbt people . the christian institute people. the christian institute says the proposal is too broad and risks punishing what is called harmless behaviour. but the scottish government has rejected the claim, saying the proposed law would only apply where there's a clear intention to suppress someone's sexuality. a survey found that 7% of lgbt

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britain's news channel. >> welcome back. it's almost 338. i'm martin daubney and this is gb news now don't forget, later in the show i'll be be joined by the reform rottweiler, the mp lee anderson . and i the mp lee anderson. and i promise you, he will not be pulling his punches on the war of words with the conservatives. plus the latest in the refugee camps in calais. that man has been there. he's got a few choice tales to tell me. i'll tell you that much for free now to a major development in a story that gb news first broke in january, and the royal mail is investigating problems with new barcoded stamps a gb new barcoded stamps and a gb news investigation found that people are being fined £5 to receive their post because the royal mail says the stamps that had been bought at post offices are fake. well i'm joined in our westminster studio now by gb news digital finance editor jessica sheldon, who broke the story earlier this year. welcome to the studio, jessica. how on

earth can this happen? these are legitimate stamps being bought by people in good faith from recognised outlets, not moody things down the car boot sale. and yet they're moody. how can it happen? >> absolutely. it's something of a mystery, which hopefully now royal mail says they'll investigate. we'll have some more answers to a gb news investigation earlier this year found that people were buying these stamps from places like post office and shops with post office in them. so really reputable . and they were sending reputable. and they were sending off these stamps to their loved ones. but instead of the envelope arriving, they would get a note. yes saying, you know, you need to pay £5. now we've seen some which look slightly different to what we know are genuine stamps, but we've also broken a story today about people who have sent stamps , and one of them has been stamps, and one of them has been deemed counterfeit and other like two others in the pack of stamps, have been fine and got through. >> and you can see them on

screen there. jessica. i mean, there's no discernible difference to the naked eye, and obviously not even to the people who are selling them at post office counters or wherever they're passed on. so the they're being passed on. so the mystery deepens . who's printing mystery deepens. who's printing them? how can they get in the mix? is it the printers barcode or blurred and they're just dodgily printed and like, how do you find out about the story in the first place? >> yeah, we found out because a lot of gb news readers and viewers wrote in to us, we've got an email address, which is money at news. .uk we're money at gb news. .uk we're really keen on anyone who's been affected to get in touch with us still, we've heard different stories. some look counterfeit, whereas others are very similar, looking to the others in the park, but ones being deemed counterfeit and the others aren't within the same book, so then it really starts to ask a question, you know, could this be an inside job? i mean , ijust be an inside job? i mean, ijust don't understand how the same book the same printer, in

book from the same printer, in the same batch as ones that are legit and the ones that aren't legit and the ones that aren't legit are being passed off? i don't understand the story. >> yeah, we definitely need some answers from from royal mail, i mean, i'm really concerned for, for people who are sending these stamps, but also people who are selling them because a lot of them are reputable places. and, you know, it's very unfair , for you know, it's very unfair, for subpostmasters to be accused of selling counterfeit stamps when, you know, we don't know what's happened. >> and of course, you know, the post office at the moment is whipped with scandal with the post submasters and post office submasters and submitted this is the submitted receivers. this is the last thing they you know, last thing they need, you know, yet of moody practice yet more kind of moody practice going on. jessica. >> absolutely. people , >> absolutely. and with people, you know, wanting to send post. you want to know that if you're going to send a letter to your loved one or going to pay a credit card bill, that it's going to get there, okay, and it's delayed it's not going to be delayed because the stamp you thought was actually counterfeit. >> if people there, >> and if people out there, jessica, their

jessica, are getting their letters or they're getting letters back or they're getting these fines, £5 fines, what do they do ? they do? >> well, i would say if you're buying stamps, make sure you do go to reputable place and go to a reputable place and definitely a receipt. keep definitely get a receipt. keep all the paperwork can. all the paperwork you can. i think always a good idea , think that's always a good idea, and you can complain to royal mail you're affected, and mail if you're affected, and there's also citizens advice and trading standards. >> superb. well, we have a response to read out on. a spokesman from the royal mail has said this royal mail takes the illegal production of counterfeit stamps seriously. since the introduction of barcoded stamps, we've been able to significantly reduce stamp fraud through added security features and we are working hard to remove counterfeit stamps from circulation and if you've had problems with the stamps, then please email us at at money at gb news .uk. then please email us at at money at gb news .uk . we're always at gb news .uk. we're always keen to hear from you. thank you very much for joining keen to hear from you. thank you very much forjoining us, jessica sheldon. superb story. keep you . now keep going. thank you. now veterans minister johnny mercer

has got until 4:00 this afternoon to name the whistleblowers who told him about alleged murders by the sas in afghanistan, or he could be sent to prison. that deadline is fast approaching about quarter an hour's time. i'm martin daubney on gb news, britain's news channel

>> earlier on breakfast, these cars were spread out over 1.6 miles. each was individually hit. aid workers are supposed to be protected. >> they should not be targeted . >> they should not be targeted. israel now has to answer questions as to how this unimaginable circumstance could have happened. >> humza himself >> this law humza yousaf himself has said there is such a high benchmark for it actually to get to court that the police scotland now have said, look, well , look, we don't actually well, look, we don't actually have the guidelines. >> they behave badly, they drink booze, get drunk, they

booze, they get drunk, they don't appreciate the culture. >> they should be more grateful . >> they should be more grateful. basically, the brits put tenerife on the map from six. >> it's breakfast on gb news. >> it's breakfast on gb news. >> welcome back. it's 347. i'm martin daubney and this is gb news now at 4:00 i'll have reaction to news that a channel migrant has been stabbed to death at a camp near dunkirk. and it's not the first time violence like this has broken out. and later in the show, lee anderson will join me in the studio here in westminster. he's on his way down from ashfield now, and i'll ask him what he thinks of the recent poll that says might win says the tories might just win only 80 seats at the next election. and a lot of it will be because of people voting for his reform party. will it let starmer, sir keir starmer into downing street? and what about the war of words has broken out between the reform party and his former colleagues at the conservative party? we'll have lots to tuck into there. don't

miss that . now, could miss that. now, could a government minister really be sent to prison? well, veterans minister johnny mercer has got until 4:00 today. that's around about 11 12 minutes. time to name the whistleblowers who told him about alleged murders by the sas in afghanistan. and he's already said that he won't do that. and the chairman of the afghanistan inquiry said last month that mercer, for that could indeed be jailed. well, joining me now is former army officer patrick benham crosswell. welcome to the show, patrick, a hugely significant moment round about 12, 13 minutes time. patrick, the incredible prospect that johnny mercer could be facing jail if he doesn't name those soldiers. do you think that might happen? do you think that might happen? do you think that might happen? do you think that he even should be facing this in the first place? >> well, i'm clearly it might happen, the, the question is

really about what does confidence mean and who has the, you know, the right of confidence. >> and this is more a legal point than a military point, and, you know , the catholic and, you know, the catholic priests and confessions have always been a, a good dilemma for tv drama. within the armed forces and the armed forces community, that there is a very high premium on being a person who sticks by your word. >> so if mr mercer actually received information in confidence, then in confidence, you know, he will feel strongly obuged you know, he will feel strongly obliged to keep it, i would imagine that he's going back to the relevant people saying, you know, you need to bring this into the public domain. but, he's stubborn, tough guy he's quite a stubborn, tough guy , so i can't imagine that the threat is going to threat of prison is going to make break his integrity. threat of prison is going to ma you break his integrity. threat of prison is going to ma you know,ak his integrity. threat of prison is going to ma you know, patrick, itegrity. threat of prison is going to ma you know, patrick, it's'ity. >> you know, patrick, it's divided. divided the divided. it's divided the veterans community, this one. because on the one hand, people like lord dannatt, who the like lord dannatt, who was the chief general staff , said chief of the general staff, said it's outrageous that the government minister, who has

done more than anyone else for veterans, should be threatened with jail. but then other veterans i've spoken with earlier today, patrick, they say that johnny , giving these names that johnny, giving these names overin that johnny, giving these names over in the first place, of the whistleblowers , of the people whistleblowers, of the people involved is in itself a breach of the veterans code of trust. where do you stand on that thorny topic? >> well, the veterans code, doesn't actually exist. it's a bit like the pirates code or whatever. it'sjust bit like the pirates code or whatever. it's just a way of behaviour or convention. and people have, you know, people have their own ways of sticking to their word. i mean, anything involving special forces , involving special forces, anything involving alleged crimes is obviously going to become highly sensitive and highly emotive. and i think , you highly emotive. and i think, you know, in in all these matters, one has one's own personal moral position . if your compass says position. if your compass says you're heading north, then you're heading north, then you're heading north, then you're heading north. and if

that takes mr mercer into the into fire you know , a into the fire of, you know, a lawyer, well, he's been shot at by people than that , and by worse people than that, and if it were to be the case that it was, he refuses to give these names over. and he stated on twitter, x that that would be the case yesterday evening, nine minutes till the deadline. now, i don't suspect he will hand those names over. they will be faced with incredible faced with the incredible situation of him facing either a big fine or a potential of maximum 51 days in jail. and then, patrick, we may find a situation where a breach of the ministerial code means that johnny mercer may be sacked as the as the veterans minister, and he's one of the most popular tory ministers, one of the most popular tory mps at a time when the party can ill afford it. that could be disastrous. political fallout in this, patrick, well, i mean, the, you know, the dice will roll how

they do, and i'm the consequences are open to consequences are open to everyone, consequences are open to everyone, i don't really see this as any more political point, if he loses his job, he loses his job, but he'll keep his honour intact. it's, you know, it's very much a choice for him on what he does. and i think he's largely to be commended for having the moral courage to actually stick to his word , which is perhaps something word, which is perhaps something a the world of a little lacking in the world of westminster . westminster. >> okay. thanks forjoining us and giving your opinions. and and giving us your opinions. and that's army officer that's former army officer patrick crosswell. thanks that's former army officer patjoining crosswell. thanks that's former army officer patjoining us crosswell. thanks that's former army officer patjoining us oanosswell. thanks that's former army officer patjoining us on the ;well. thanks that's former army officer patjoining us on the show. thanks that's former army officer patjoining us on the show. and ks for joining us on the show. and of course, all eyes now on that deadune of course, all eyes now on that deadline fast approaching 4 pm. only 7.5 minutes away. now what will happen now? i've had a few emails in from you today. a lot of people very concerned about the ramping up of the political rhetoric around those three british aid workers , of course, british aid workers, of course, that were killed while performing an aid run. and there are calls to stop sending arms

to israel. now, the liberal democrat leader, ed davey, was saying that we should stop supplying israel if any of the weapons are used in bad faith, such as this case, then surely we shouldn't have our fingerprints all over it. we spoke to a military expert earlier , lieutenant colonel, who earlier, lieutenant colonel, who said, that's the worst thing we should the last thing we should do. the last thing we should do. the last thing we should do, because stopping the arming of israel will help hamas. it's an incredibly sensitive situation. and you've been saying this, steve has said, how can the uk call for action following the deaths of three aid workers in gaza? when we supported the deaths of thousands of innocent palestinians? we should condemn all israeli actions of revenge ? all israeli actions of revenge? well, steve, i think many people have pointed out this wasn't an act israeli revenge. this act of israeli revenge. this seems to be. of course, there'll be inquiry . seems to be. of course, there'll be inquiry. seems seems to be. of course, there'll be inquiry . seems to be a be a full inquiry. seems to be a tragic accident. lieutenant tragic accident. the lieutenant colonel pointed out to us that often times we think modern

warfare is incredibly pinpoint, accurate , laser gps driven. but accurate, laser gps driven. but chaos happens in all wars. accidents do happen. perhaps this was one of them. jason adds this was one of them. jason adds this instead of virtue signalling and giving aid, we should be sending more arms to israel. just to show you how divided the public are on this topic, and margaret adds this i'm with all of the people who say this is a war zone and mistakes can happen. this is true, but they need to be extremely careful in future. thanks for those emails. keep them coming in gbviews@gbnews.com now later in the show i'll be joined by lee anderson. of course he's got plenty to say on the channel. migrant, who's been stabbed to death near a camp in dunkirk. lee anderson spent a lot of time in the calais jungle as an insider. got lots of footage, lots of stories to tell. he saw tales there that would make your hair curl. he's going to share those with us later the show.

those with us later in the show. shortly, joined by an shortly, i'll be joined by an inventive journalist who has spent lot of time in those spent a lot of time in those camps saying the places are absolutely crime . i'm absolutely rife with crime. i'm martin daubney on gb news first time for your weather with annie shuttleworth . shuttleworth. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> hello there. good afternoon. welcome to your latest gb news weather update. well, further persistent rain is to come for northeastern areas, but further south has turned much drier through the day. but in the southwest we'll see the next batch arrive through batch of rain arrive through this evening and overnight. that's front that's as this weather front arrives from the southwest. but this weather the this weather front up to the northeast. what's been northeast. that's what's been bringing this persistent to bringing this persistent rain to parts of eastern scotland, northeastern england as well. in particular, there's been quite a cold as so it's been cold wind as well. so it's been quite miserable feeling day quite a miserable feeling day and stay with quite a miserable feeling day and wet stay with quite a miserable feeling day and wet weather stay with

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well -- well . well. >> good afternoon. it's 4 pm. and welcome to the martin daubney show on gb news. broadcasting live from the heart of westminster. all across the uk. our top story today is that a channel migrant has been stabbed to death at a camp near dunkirk . i'm stabbed to death at a camp near dunkirk. i'm about to stabbed to death at a camp near dunkirk . i'm about to speak to dunkirk. i'm about to speak to an inventive journalist who's been to those camps in northern france. fascinating interviewee in the studio, sue reed from the daily mail. now, after three brits were killed in an israeli drone strike on their aid convoy, the uk is being urged to suspend arms sales to israel. what will the government's responses be? and you will not want to miss this because later in the show i'll be joined by lee anderson. i can't wait to hear what he's got to say about

the of words between reform the war of words between reform and the reform uk and the conservative and also conservative party. and also he's spent plenty of time he's also spent plenty of time in camps calais. some of in the camps at calais. some of his stories will make your hair curl, and you will not want to miss them. that's all coming up. welcome to the show. it's always a welcome to the show. it's always 6 joy welcome to the show. it's always a joy to have your company. so another tragic murder. a stabbing in the dunkirk camp . stabbing in the dunkirk camp. and it seems to me these places are a rift with crime, gangs taking over smuggling gangs, human traffickers, heavily armed, very , very heavily geared armed, very, very heavily geared up, lots and lots of money in their stories of them overrunning the french police simply cannot stop them launching craft as the french police attempt to stab those dinghies, they are simply outnumbered and forced away. tales of attempted asylum seekers getting on boats without

paying seekers getting on boats without paying and then mayhem breaks out. mid—channel. it's a scene of chaos. it's a scene of carnage. of these really, the kinds of people we want to be coming to britain , get in touch coming to britain, get in touch with the usual ways. gb views at gb news. com but first it's time for your latest news headlines with sophia wenzler. >> thanks, martin. good afternoon. it's 4:02. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom . your wenzler in the gb newsroom. your top story this hour. the family of british aid workerjohn of british aid worker john chapman, who was killed by an israeli airstrike in gaza, says he will forever be a hero and that he died trying to help people . the bodies of mr people. the bodies of mr chapman, along james chapman, along with james henderson and james kirby, are now being transported out of gaza. now being transported out of gaza . the three british gaza. the three british nationals died when their convoy was as they were delivering was hit as they were delivering vital food supplies. they were part a group of seven aid part of a group of seven aid workers from the world central kitchen . foreign secretary

kitchen ngo. foreign secretary lord cameron says more must be done ensure the safe passage done to ensure the safe passage of aid into gaza . of aid into gaza. >> i welcome what the israeli foreign minister said yesterday to me about a full, urgent and transparent inquiry into how this dreadful event was allowed to happen and we want to see that happen very, very quickly. i also welcome the fact that he spoke about much more aid getting into gaza , up to 500 getting into gaza, up to 500 trucks a day. that is essential. we have been promised these things before, and this really needs . needs to happen. >> a new poll suggests labour could sweep to victory with more than 400 seats at the next election, leaving the tories with just 155. yougov is predicting a landslide for sir keir starmer, with the conservatives projected to win even less seats than a previous poll conducted in january . the poll conducted in january. the survey of 18,000 people predicts a majority of 154 for labour, almost double what the conservatives achieved with bofis conservatives achieved with boris johnson in 2019. in other

news, police in finland say a 12 year old boy suspected of carrying out a shooting at a school yesterday had been bullied, which officers are treating as the motive. another student also aged 12, died in the shooting, which happened in a suburb of the capital helsinki. two girls of the same age were also seriously hurt. and an update on the situation in taiwan. nine people are now known to have died and more than 800 injured after a major earthquake there. it's the biggest quake there in 25 years. this was the moment it hit the east coast. judith raanan . east coast. judith raanan. tremors were recorded as high as 7.7 magnitude around 8:00 this morning, as people were heading to work and school news anchors rocked by the earthquake during live broadcasts remained steady on air whilst the newsroom was shaking . rescue teams are shaking. rescue teams are working into the night in search of survivors . more than 100 are

of survivors. more than 100 are thought to be trapped in tunnels under buildings or stuck under landslides . questions are being landslides. questions are being asked about how a 43 year old man was able to commit two sex attacks years apart, despite receiving a jail sentence for fareed issa. tariq will spend 18 years in prison for raping a woman in swindon after he tncked woman in swindon after he tricked her into accepting a ride in a fake taxi. he was previously jailed in 2012 for a near identical crime . a third of near identical crime. a third of people who have tried to book an appointment with a gp in the last month say they've struggled to speak to someone. major new to speak to someone. a major new survey more than 31% survey found that more than 31% found it difficult or very difficult to contact a gp practice, and among those who eventually did book an appointment, 20% reported having appointment, 20% reported having a poor experience . a teacher who a poor experience. a teacher who described girls from western backgrounds as lunatics has been banned from teaching indefinitely. an investigation found a aqeeb khan, who is from birmingham, told students that

those who support feminism would be replaced by muslims . it's be replaced by muslims. it's understood he also sent topless pictures of himself to a messaging group that included students. the teaching regulation agency says mr khan engagedin regulation agency says mr khan engaged in serious misconduct and undermined what were described as fundamental british values, and royal mail is pushing the postal regulator to speed up reforms, including cutting back on second class deliveries to just three days a week. the postal service says urgent reforms are needed to cut costs following a major drop in demand, falling from 20 billion letters to 7 billion each year. the plan, set to save £300 million, would also lead to a possible 1000 redundancies. the liberal democrats are among many who have criticised the proposal , warning it would create a postage cost crisis for consumers as a religious charity is warning the scottish government against banning conversion therapy for lgbt people. the christian institute says the proposal is too broad

and risks punishing what it calls harmless behaviour . but calls harmless behaviour. but the scottish government has rejected the claim, saying the proposed law would only apply when there's a clear intention to suppress someone's sexuality. a survey found that 7% of lgbt people in scotland have been subjected to or offered conversion therapies . and for conversion therapies. and for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gbnews.com/alerts. now it's back to . martin. to. martin. >> thank you sofia . now we start >> thank you sofia. now we start with the news that a channel migrant has been stabbed to death at a camp near dunkirk in france, and the incident happened just days after a gb news exclusive report warned of a deteriorating security situation in northern france, which has seen french police regularly attacked and injured by migrants. well, i'm joined now by our home and security

edhoh now by our home and security editor, marc white. marc, you've been covering these situations for a long time. you've been over there many times. i'm surprised . i'm supposing, marc, surprised. i'm supposing, marc, this tragedy as no this comes this tragedy as no surprise whatsoever to you. >> no, not at all. this is indicative of what we are seeing now on the other side of the engush now on the other side of the english channel, with growing levels violence , migrant on levels of violence, migrant on migrant violence, but also violence meted out against the authorities who are trying to stop these boats from launching. this latest incident happened at a migrant camp called loon—plage, which is on rail tracks just not far from dunkirk . we were there actually filming just in december. . we were there actually filming just in december . you can see just in december. you can see for those watching on television, some of the drone shots that we got at the time. now the migrant camp can house up to 1000 people at a time, but the police regularly raid it. and i think this is one of these penods and i think this is one of these periods when there was only a couple of hundred or so in the

camp. now, emergency services were called there to reports that a migrant had been stabbed on the outskirts of the camp. when they arrived, they found this migrant with multiple stab wounds to the chest. they worked on him for about an hour but were unable to save his life. and it's just one, as i say, of a number of violent incidents right down that northern coast, further down in calais. another incident just a fortnight ago where a migrant was stabbed as he tried to board a boat to take him offshore , it appears from him offshore, it appears from what we can gather from our sources, to have been a dispute with a migrant who had no money for the trip but tried to force his way onto the boat, came up against a people smuggler. smuggler. and it didn't end well for that particular migrant . the for that particular migrant. the ambulance, as you can see on the pictures there, was waiting for him at to that him at dover to take that migrant hospital in kent when

migrant to hospital in kent when he arrived, and as i say , not he arrived, and as i say, not just migrant on migrant violence that's increasing . they're also that's increasing. they're also turning their attention to the french authorities as they try to reach the dinghies and to puncture them before they can launch one incident just near boulogne , a few weeks ago, saw boulogne, a few weeks ago, saw police come up against 350 migrants from sudan, from vietnam , from kurdish migrants, vietnam, from kurdish migrants, as well . and as the police try as well. and as the police try to reach for boats to puncture them, they were pelted with stones and sticks and other missiles. the migrants use some of the petrol that they use to power the engines across the engush power the engines across the english channel to create a line down the beach to stop the police getting beyond that, set it on fire to stop them getting to the boats. a number of police officers were injured in that particular incident, so it's getting worse on the other side

of the channel for sure. >> okay. that's our home security editor. mark, what an excellent summary. as ever. and now i'm joined in the studio by the special investigations editor at the daily mail, sue read. sue delighted to have you in the studio. fascinating career. you've had 20 years. you've been covering the illegal migration trade into britain. and during mark white's report there, you had a look on your face of , yeah, i've heard all face of, yeah, i've heard all this before. i've seen all this before. sue how predictable is this latest fatality? >> very, very predictable. >> very, very predictable. >> you have to realise that every migrant is like a bar of gold to the gangs , and it's gold to the gangs, and it's money that is fuelling it. they also wind the migrants up into a frenzy. they like lemmings. by the time they're exhausted , and the time they're exhausted, and they bring them in in batches to they bring them in in batches to the camps to await the, you know, the boat. >> they're going to go on and it's they're in a hysterical

state. i mean, you have to be hysterical to put your baby on a boat. you can't be in your right mind for a mother to do that. >> and so can you. give us a flavour of the atmosphere and the camps, the danger, the violence . like what are the kind violence. like what are the kind of most chaotic scenes that you've witnessed over the years ? you've witnessed over the years? >> well, i'm scrupulously careful, been also very careful, and i've been also very lucky.i careful, and i've been also very lucky. i tend to interview migrants outside the camp when they're in groups of 1 or 2, and that means you can interview them. they're more relaxed, they're talk. you can they're able to talk. you can get that confidence and you can get that confidence and you can get real stories. but i have made a mistake and i made the mistake about three years ago, i was in a car park , near was in a car park, near a migrant camp, and the it was surrounded by offices, french offices and the french went home at five. we, myself and the photographer , kerry davis, photographer, kerry davis, didn't realise quite what that that was happening. we were left

as one car in the car park when the migrants came past. they spotted us and attacked the car. they tried to turn the car over. they tried to turn the car over. they tried to put their hands. they tried to put their hands. they successfully. the ringleader put his hand through the car window to try to get the car keys. and then when that didn't work, they were about to and i believe me, that migrant leader who called himself the king of the zulus, i believe he was from south africa , was from south africa, obviously, he gave one whistle and we were surrounded by hundreds , one whistle, and they hundreds, one whistle, and they all became , even though they all became, even though they were different nationalities, part of the same mob . so they're part of the same mob. so they're easily whipped up as well. so it's inflammatory situation where you've got hysterical migrants and you've got basically a mob of the of the, of the gang, the gang, you know, the, the gangs . so together the, the gangs. so together it's, it's well, it's very, very

dangerous. >> mark white was saying there sue, that he thinks it's getting worse. and again, you were nodding along to that. you've you've seen this over decades . you've seen this over decades. the situation it's sprawling you've seen this over decades. the sitheion it's sprawling you've seen this over decades. the si the coast.y sprawling you've seen this over decades. the si the coast.y spravpeople and along the coast. more people and the danger is ramping up. >> definitely , because the >> definitely, because the numbers and the money is , is numbers and the money is, is it's run like a military operation . i mean, i've been operation. i mean, i've been told that by the national crime agency , and i don't need to be agency, and i don't need to be told it by them to know it. it is meticulous because there's so much money involved. so they're marshalling migrants here, the gangs they're controlling the gangs. and there will be a missed a kingpin , you know, in missed a kingpin, you know, in some city far away in erbil or or even in paris or in brussels , or even in paris or in brussels, who never goes anywhere near the beaches. it's like a ponzi scheme, really ? yeah. scheme, really? yeah. >> with that in mind, there's such vested interests, such money, such demand, a never

ending string of demand of people who want to come here, who are already on their way. >> remember? yeah. if we stop them now , they're already them now, they're already leaving. there's people leaving . leaving. there's people leaving. the sudan now are going to reach the only place they want to get to the french beaches, to get to the uk. they'll arrive in two and a half years time. and so you see, they're on their way. >> if it's that organised, that lucrative , that desirable, how lucrative, that desirable, how on break that on earth do we ever break that chain ? chain? >> i, it sounds incredibly harsh, but i'm sure i think if the eu, change politically in the eu, change politically in the june elections, which i think it probably will, yes, i think it probably will, yes, i think they will put up, as the greeks have done, holding camps all over europe, the coasts of europe, where people are really best assessed just to see who is coming in, which would be a plus, as the greeks have done, because we have no idea who is coming in. we don't know if they're genuine refugees or complete rogues .

complete rogues. >> and that's a great point, sue. and indeed, it was the mail that broke saw that there are at least at least that we know least 19, at least that we know about terrorists in the uk. again, have that look on again, you have that look on your face where you think this is just sorry to know i'm so fascinated because you think this is the tip of the iceberg, don't you? >> the tip of the >> absolutely. the tip of the iceberg. mean, there have iceberg. i mean, there have been people was one guy i've people who was one guy i've written about at and written about at length, and we've been to his and we've been to his home and talked wife, who ? you talked to his wife, who? you murdered a little girl in austria, a 13 year old. i just can't remember his nationality. but i believe i don't mean to malign the iraqis, but i think he was from memory. he was iraqi or syrian, and he came through. he escaped from that murder, murdered the little girl, raped her, wrapped her up in a carpet blade, put her under a tree, run away . came to britain blade, put her under a tree, run away. came to britain on a boat. this is only two and a half years ago. britain on a boat was put up the ibis hotel in whitechapel , where he the

whitechapel, where he the austrians did the tracking. we, deported him. and he's now back in austria , facing justice. but in austria, facing justice. but why did he run to? of course he ran to the boats and into the uk because there are no checks and is part of that. >> the feeling that we are a soft touch , that they can make soft touch, that they can make this journey, and there's scant chance of deportation unless no extraordinary, unusual circumstances such as that horrific one. >> that was because the austrians were pulling the strings . yeah, they said, we strings. yeah, they said, we want him deported face trial . want him deported to face trial. it wasn't us saying he has to be deported . deported. >> do you think so? >> do you think so? >> it's going to be the lightning rod issue of the general election. rishi sunak clearly cannot stop the boats. can anybody ever stop this? what needs to be done? >> i think not only are we, it will eu a new eu if it becomes more populist, will set up

holding camps round the coast. i think we are going to have to consider not going out and collecting these people if there was no collection service, and that , believe me, was no collection service, and that, believe me, is what it is. they call it a ticket when they buy it , they call it a ticket. buy it, they call it a ticket. they call the gangs agents as though you're going to the bus terminal . though you're going to the bus terminal. that though you're going to the bus terminal . that is though you're going to the bus terminal. that is the terminology and they expect to be collected. they ring the coastguard. the coastguard sends out border force or around an eye, they're picking them eye, and they're picking them up. only 2 or 3 miles up. sometimes only 2 or 3 miles from the french coast in french waters , they they're waters, they may say they're not, tracking not, but i have a tracking device and you can see them. >> so do you think britain's just become a laughing stock? >> i think you have to stop the rescues, the rescue service, because that's what it is, a rescue service. >> you know, i wish we could talk you for another hour. talk to you for another hour. absolutely. fascinating stuff. please, back ? please, will you come back? yeah. please come back and talk to us again. fantastic stuff. the investigations the special investigations

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make it up delicious. now let's get the latest. following the killings of three british aid workers in gaza and former national security adviser lord peter ricketts say the uk should stop selling arms to israel . and stop selling arms to israel. and john chapman, james henderson and james kirby were among seven people killed in a drone attack on their convoy as it was struck on their convoy as it was struck on monday evening . well, joining on monday evening. well, joining us now to discuss this is the former british army officer , former british army officer, major general tim cross. welcome to the show, tim. pleasure to have you . the reaction from some have you. the reaction from some quarters at least, has been a call to stop exporting arms to israel. if any arms are used in this way , we should stop that this way, we should stop that business. but we've had previously on this show, we've had people say that would be precisely what hamas want. so is that an overreaction in your situation to what appears to be a tragic accident ?

a tragic accident? >> yeah. >> yeah. >> i think the first thing i would want to say is that it is we have to acknowledge and accept that it's good news in inverted commas, that israel accept that it's good news in inver said ommas, that israel accept that it's good news in inver said that as, that israel accept that it's good news in inver said that they1at israel accept that it's good news in inver said that they realise al have said that they realise this was mistake . and the was a tragic mistake. and the reality is that i'm afraid in every conflict that i've ever been involved with, it takes you to places you would not want to go. >> things happen. >> things happen. >> technology fails , people make >> technology fails, people make mistakes and sadly, as a result of that, there are lots of unintended consequences. and this is one of those occasions. now hamas, putin and many other of the hoods around the world like milosevic, and so forth would never have admitted that they mistake like they had made a mistake like this. so we've got to give israel for saying that israel credit for saying that they acknowledged the they have acknowledged the reality they've reality of it. they've acknowledged mistake . acknowledged it was a mistake. should we stop selling arms to israel? frankly, i think israel? well, frankly, i think in just in of practical in just in terms of practical terms, sure what the terms, i'm not sure what the figure is, but i understand it's a small amount of arms a pretty small amount of arms that we are sending to israel that we are sending to israel that has been used in this conflict. most of comes conflict. most of it comes from the so i'm not sure that

the us. so i'm not sure that would make an awful lot of difference. to be honest . difference. to be honest. >> and tim, you mentioned there about every battle arena you've been involved in. you've seen chaos, seen accidents. i chaos, you've seen accidents. i think a lot of people out there presume that modern warfare is incredibly precise . it's laser incredibly precise. it's laser guided, it's gps driven . we know guided, it's gps driven. we know exactly down to a pinhead what's going on on the ground. you can see from those pictures there the logos of the a company very clear . but of the logos of the a company very clear. but of course, in operational circumstances , even operational circumstances, even in modern times, i'm assuming there is just chaos. there is just anarchy. this is a war zone, after all. >> it is. and it's uncontrolled space in that sense. now it is better than it was. you may remember i was involved in the first gulf war when an american cruise missile went into the chinese embassy in baghdad, and there are lots of other examples i could quote from that. technology has moved on over

these last couple of decades, but the reality is that technology fails. we all know that from looking at our own technology , and as i said technology, and as i said earlier, people make mistakes. they intelligence s, they they gather intelligence s, they they, they do take i every they, they do take i mean, every campaign that we are involved with and certainly other, allies ' guys with and certainly other, allies , guys take targeting extremely seriously. so i don't know why this mistake happened. i don't know why it was that this particular incident happened, but it was clearly a mistake. chaos and uncertainty, i'm afraid, are a reality on a battlefield. and actually, ironically, if there is not sufficient chaos on the battlefield, part of our job as leaders , as commanders, is to leaders, as commanders, is to create that chaos to unrwa , create that chaos to unrwa, incite the enemy to give them, you know, an inability to gather and be able to sort out what's going on. so we have to outthink and out and out fight them at the same time. so it doesn't excuse this happening. i mean, it is a tragedy and i do i worked a lot with aid agency , in

worked a lot with aid agency, in kosovo particularly my brigade built and ran refugee camps. kosovo particularly my brigade built and ran refugee camps . and built and ran refugee camps. and subsequently to that i've worked with a of aid agencies and with a lot of aid agencies and indeedi with a lot of aid agencies and indeed i was director of a of indeed i was a director of a of an organisation. these three an aid organisation. these three guys who were killed, brits guys who were killed, the brits in obviously, were in particular, obviously, were all so concerned about are very brave they're doing brave people and they're doing their best bring sort of their best to bring some sort of succour place. but they succour to this place. but they knew the risks they were taking. and, and inevitably it is a very risky business, particularly in gaza moment . and i'm not gaza at the moment. and i'm not sure that, you know, much will change, frankly, until the, the peace negotiations that are going on in, in particular in, in qatar come to some sort of solution. >> may i ask you a question , >> may i ask you a question, major general cross that we were talking about yesterday, the nofion talking about yesterday, the notion that some are saying we should have a ukrainian style refugee scheme, but for palestinians coming to the uk, we've had a lot of intelligence advisers on the show saying that could be a recipe for disaster.

hamas could melt into the civilian crowd, could be a part of that scheme. is that something you think we should be entertaining, or does that carry an burden ? an undue risk and burden? >> no, i think it is something we should be entertaining. in fact, i've been saying it without being clever about it. i've this for i've been saying this for some time. really don't time. i don't i really don't understand. i know there understand. well, i know there are , but why we are reasons for this, but why we have not, worked our way through getting people out of gaza into eqypt getting people out of gaza into egypt and indeed into, into, you know, israel itself and other nafions. know, israel itself and other nations . now, there are lots of nations. now, there are lots of issues here. there are palestinian refugees living in jordan, for example, who've been there since the 1950s. 60s and 70s , and yes, of course, if you 70s, and yes, of course, if you then begin to pull people out, hamas would attempt to infiltrate those refugees. so it would have to be done carefully. but but i do believe and have felt for some time that we need to get especially obviously, the women and children out of gaza whilst this conflict goes on. now there are large numbers of people there , and setting this

people there, and setting this all up would take a long time, but in principle it's a good idea. and i think the arab nafionsin idea. and i think the arab nations in particular, could work this through and get people out to take them out of this danger zone, because the bottom line is israel is not going to stop this campaign. i mean, i happen to believe that netanyahu is not fighting this campaign. well, if for all sorts of reasons, i, think he fell into reasons, i, i think he fell into a trap hamas sent, you a trap that hamas sent, you know, place, but know, put in place, but nonetheless , getting these nonetheless, getting these people out, i do think would be a good thing to be working on. yes, there would be a problem of hamas terrorists hamas terrorism, terrorists escaping as well. but to be honest, israel are not going to destroy hamas. they will degrade it. they will undermine it. do all sorts of things to it. but once fighting is there once the fighting is over, there are going people are going to be hamas people left in gaza. we've got to left in gaza. so we've got to accept reality that. accept the reality of that. >> fascinating stuff. >> okay. fascinating stuff. thanks huge thanks for sharing your huge experience . that's former experience. that's former british army officer, major general cross . thanks for general tim cross. thanks for joining us on the show. now there's still come there's lots more still to come between now 5:00, and we'll

between now and 5:00, and we'll between now and 5:00, and we'll be discussing net zero madness. and those are the words of a conservative mp, john redwood, in fact. but isn't his party the reason for its rollout ? but reason for its rollout? but first, it's time for your latest news headlines with sophia wenzler. >> thanks, martin. it's 432. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom. your headlines. a new poll suggests labour could sweep to victory with more than 400 seats at the next election, leaving the tories with just 155. yougov is predicting a landslide for sir keir starmer, with the conservatives projected to win even less seats than a previous poll conducted in january . and another change of january. and another change of leader may be off the cards , leader may be off the cards, with other mps including penny mordaunt, iain duncan, smith and jacob rees—mogg all trailing their labour challengers . shadow their labour challengers. shadow foreign secretary david lammy says the government should suspend arms sales to israel if

it's clear that international law has been breached . it's law has been breached. it's after british aid workers john chapman, james henderson and james kirby were killed when their convoy was hit by an israeli airstrike while they were delivering vital food aid. police in finland say a 12 year old boy suspected of carrying out a shooting at a school yesterday had been bullied, which are treating as which officers are treating as the motive. another student, also 12, died in the also aged 12, died in the shooting, which happened in a suburb of the capital helsinki . suburb of the capital helsinki. two girls of the same age were also hurt . a religious also seriously hurt. a religious charity is warning the scottish government against banning conversion therapy for lgbt people . the christian institute people. the christian institute says the proposal is too broad and risks punishing what it calls harmless behaviour. but the scottish government has rejected the claim, saying the proposed law would only apply where there is a clear intention to someone's sexuality . to suppress someone's sexuality. a survey found that 7% of lgbt people in scotland have been subjected to or offered conversion therapies , and for

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precisely what i'll get. is he indecisive? incompetent? that's the camilla tominey show at 930 every sunday on gb news, the people's channel, britain's election . channel. election. channel. >> welcome back. it's 438. i'm martin daubney and this is gb news is now police scotland got almost 4000 complaints in the first two days after the new hate crime laws came into force. of course, on april the first, april fools day. and later in the show, i'll ask, haven't police officers in scotland got better things do than stop better things to do than stop meddling tweets? how meddling with our tweets? how about the streets, about policing the streets, lads? it's news for lads? now it's good news for british manufacturing, as the purchasing managers index grew for the first time in nearly two years last month. and guess what? despite brexit, we're doing much better than the eurozone with the uk outperforming countries such as italy, france and of course, the

mighty germany, well join me now to discuss this is liam halligan gb news economics and business editor with on the money . leon, editor with on the money. leon, welcome. always an absolute pleasure, as you know, to have you on the show blaming brexit. we're actually doing quite well, aren't we. >> well it's come out today martin. are some more unofficial numbers. you and i spoke earlier in the week about some unofficial inflation numbers from the british retail consortium , not the ons numbers, consortium, not the ons numbers, not the office for national statistics but an industry survey from the british retail consortium saying that inflation in march was down at 1.3% below the bank of england's 2% target. as i say, that's unofficial, but that does suggest that we could see interest rate cuts from the bank of england relatively soon, possibly or june. and what possibly may or june. and what we've got today is some more

unofficial data, martin, from what we call the purchasing managers index, this is like pre—emptive data ahead of official gdp data. data on the size of the economy. and this pmi survey shows that the uk manufacturing it manufacturing sector, it actually grew during march. and this is the first growth we've seen in manufacturing on a month to month basis since july 2022. let's have a look at the numbers. these are purchasing manager index surveys. they're surveys of business opinion . and surveys of business opinion. and the reading is 50.3 in march. that means a majority of british manufacturers they think that the economy is going to grow. readings above 50 indicate growth. that's up from 47.5% in february. so that's a big monthly increase from 47.5 to 15.3 on that industry survey reading. it's the first 50 plus

reading. it's the first 50 plus reading. the first pmi survey data that points to economic growth since july 2022. and talking of the eurozone, these pmi surveys, they're conducted across the world, whereas . the across the world, whereas. the uk is at 50.3, the eurozone, the average manufacturing pmi in march was 46.1, which suggests that the eurozone's manufacturing sector is still contracting . and contracting quite sharply. and at the heart of the eurozone's manufacturing sector, of course, is europe's biggest manufacturer, which is germany and the german economy very reliant energy , very reliant on russian energy, very reliant on russian energy, very reliant on russian energy, very reliant on demand from china and other emerging markets, which have been relatively sluggish in recent months. germany is still in recession and that's the main reason why, on these numbers at least , the uk manufacturing least, the uk manufacturing sector outside the eu is, for now doing better than the eurozone's manufacturing sector within the eu. but of course ,

within the eu. but of course, there are many, many other issues at play here. it's not at all just a brexit story. >> and liam , we were told, of >> and liam, we were told, of course, that the sky would fall in after brexit. germany languish in there right at the bottom of these figures. uk about midships of course, india , about midships of course, india, greece, russia, indonesia with the most positive outlooks. what is it? that's changed in britain? do you think that's given this, this more positive backdrop? >> well, clearly price pressures are easing. martin i referred to that preliminary british retail consortium data for march ,1.3% consortium data for march, 1.3% below the bank of england's 2% inflation target . that's retail inflation target. that's retail inflation. that's what shoppers experience when they go to the high street and they get online. but so—called wholesale inflation is also easing. price pressures in the pipeline . on pressures in the pipeline. on the cost of the inputs that firms use when they make the goods and services that they then sell to us. those prices

are also easing. and this is why manufacturers are starting to see their order books grow again here in the uk, and you're starting to see some more demand, some improvement in business sentiment. manufacturers actually on business sentiment. manuemployeesztually on business sentiment. manuemployees ,jally on business sentiment. manuemployees , these on business sentiment. manuemployees , these now on extra employees, these now manufacturers buying new capital equipment in order to try and expand and their output. look, we're by no means out of the woods at all. the uk economy is flat at best. of course, we're in recession in the back end of last year. let's not overexcite ourselves here, but it's clear that the uk economy is now showing some better numbers, not just in terms of inflation with inflation easing, but also in terms of manufacturing. the heart of the economy, if you like. we are still a top ten global manufacturer. manufacturing about an manufacturing is still about an eighth of our economy. it's still employs hundreds of thousands of people across . the

thousands of people across. the uk. so it's a very, very important part of great britain plc. and it's good to see, at least on these preliminary numbers. there's so bad least on these preliminary numbaroundzre's so bad least on these preliminary numbaround theseo bad least on these preliminary numbaround theseo some|d news around these are some positive preliminary manufacturing , the pmi manufacturing numbers, the pmi survey, the purchasing managers index, the headline measure of inflation outside of the official measures , is now official measures, is now suggesting that the uk manufacturing sector is growing at a time when the eurozone's manufacturing sector is not. we want the eurozone to grow, we want the eurozone to grow, we want europe to have a strong economy because we trade so much with europe . but for now at with europe. but for now at least, brexit britain is leading the way when it comes to the manufacturing recovery across europe . europe. >> that's what we're like. liam halligan some superb positive news. thank you very much. i know you care passionately about manufacturing. thanks for sharing that with us, captain. always now don't go always a pleasure. now don't go anywhere because in a few minutes discussing tory minutes we'll be discussing tory veteran mp john redwood's

comments buying comments that nobody is buying into as net into what he describes as net zero madness. but it's your party, john. your policy i martin daubney on gb news, britain's news channel .

>> earlier on breakfast, these cars were spread out over 1.6 miles each was individually hit. >> aid workers are supposed to be protected , and they should be protected, and they should not be targeted. israel now has to questions as to how to answer questions as to how this unimaginable circumstance could have happened. >> law humza himself >> this law humza yousaf himself has there is such a high has said there is such a high benchmark for it actually to get to the police to court that the police scotland now have said, look, well, look, we don't actually have the guidelines and they behave badly. >> they get >> they drink booze, they get drunk, appreciate the drunk, they don't appreciate the culture, they should be more grateful. >> basically, the brits put tenerife on the map from six. >> its breakfast on gb news.

>> its breakfast on gb news. >> welcome back. 449 is your time. i'm martin daubney and this is gb news now. very soon i'll be joined by lee anderson . i'll be joined by lee anderson. in fact, he's just banging at the door where we'll be discussing everything from migrants to reform versus the tory party. that one is going to get spicy. but before that, tory veteran mp john redwood's commented in the telegraph that nobody is buying into what he describes as net zero madness. well, he continues to say that the green revolution lacks pubuc the green revolution lacks public enthusiasm, with the likes of electric cars heat likes of electric cars and heat pumps struggling to gain traction. show that the traction. reports show that the majority prefer gradual policy changes that won't impact their living standards. well, so tell us more, is the nature program manager at the conservative environment network, jordan lee, who the studio now. who joins me in the studio now.

jordan, for popping jordan, thank you for popping in. i have to say, i've got a lot of time for john redwood and the fact sat in that chair the fact he's sat in that chair where you before. when where you are before. but when i read first read this article, my first answer buys the answer was nobody buys into the net zero nonsense. well, how about your party, john? it's a manifesto pledge. how about the labour party? the liberal democrats, the greens, the king, the church, the . bbc academia the church, the. bbc academia luvvies, the nhs, the civil service, police , the fire, the service, police, the fire, the wwf, the debut show, the european union, every council in britain, every nation in the west buys into net zero. i thought at first when i read this article, it was . still this article, it was. still april the 1st. >> well, you're making my point for me, but there's a serious point to this. >> the british people have voted for voted in 2010, >> they voted for it in 2010, 2015, 2019. 2015, 2017, 2019. >> reforming conservative >> bold reforming conservative governments, taking governments, which are taking action governments, which are taking actiwe've seen the economy grow. >> we've seen the economy grow. >> we've seen the economy grow. >> we've seen the economy grow. >> we are the fastest growing economy in the g20 to is also halved emissions at the same time. >> and john mentions evs and

heat pumps. >> what's happened there? we've had a million evs now on the road britain, making up road in britain, making up nearly 1 in 10 new car sales, mostly fleets, though in terms of in terms of private ownership, it's been a tepid response at best. ownership, it's been a tepid res|you'd at best. ownership, it's been a tepid res|you'd havest. ownership, it's been a tepid res|you'd have to say which is >> you'd have to say which is exactly why we need to be pro—business. >> this is why the conservative approach to net zero matters against labour's policy of simply taxing and spending their way out of problems and heat pumps well. worth pumps as well. it's worth saying, up on last year, nearly 40% result of tax 40% again as a result of tax cuts, which we won't see under a labour government, but 40% of a very number. very small number. >> appreciate your >> jordan, i appreciate your enthusiasm , but maybe john's got enthusiasm, but maybe john's got a point when he's talking about nobody's buying into the net zero nonsense. he means the general public. and isn't it true to say that principle true to say that in principle we all cleaner all all want cleaner air? we all want planet the want a cleaner planet for the future. but in practice, when it comes price, the pinch comes to the price, the pinch point, the pounds and the pence in our pockets, people are

waking up to the fact that we'd like to see a bit more carrots and a bit less stick. >> i agree, and that's exactly why conservative approach net why conservative approach to net zero being on the side >> this means being on the side of business. >> enabling businesses. >> it means enabling businesses. >> it means enabling businesses. >> opportunity in >> there's a huge opportunity in this to unleash this country to unleash our manufacturing potential. >> you've just been talking about manufacturing has been about how manufacturing has been boosted over the past couple of years. that's exactly what we need to see. that new ev need to see. that means new ev plants, seeing down in plants, which are seeing down in somerset, means unleashing the potential where seeing new teesside, where we're seeing new wind turbines being manufactured. exactly wind turbines being maanetured. exactly wind turbines being maanetured. see,exactly wind turbines being maanetured. see,exac'that's what we need to see, and that's where approach differs to where our approach differs to the labour party. >> and are still reliant >> and yet we are still reliant domestically on 40% for gas, and it's even more for manufacturing industry. you can't run a cement plant off a plug in mains that runs off a turbine, and we need fossil fuels . we may be able to fossil fuels. we may be able to wean ourselves off them, but we still need them. so wouldn't it be better solution? be a better solution? jordan. roll stuff roll on importing stuff from halfway around the world, literally selling to literally selling coal to newcastle this newcastle or in this case selling oil to britain? we have our own we have bountiful

our own oil. we have bountiful suppues our own oil. we have bountiful supplies of oil under the north sea. we have shale gas and the huge swathes of britain. and yet we are ideologically opposed to it of zero. it because of net zero. >> well , i it because of net zero. >> well, i would say it because of net zero. >> well , i would say net zero >> well, i would say net zero means cheaper energy bills. >> so . the that can happen the cheapeh >> well we're seeing it already. so the cheapest form of energy currently is wind. have the currently is wind. we have the five offshore farms five largest offshore wind farms currently the world. currently anywhere in the world. we're also let's currently anywhere in the world. we'rsay also let's currently anywhere in the world. we'rsay we also let's currently anywhere in the world. we'rsay we need also let's currently anywhere in the world. we'rsay we need aalso let's currently anywhere in the world. we'rsay we need aalso of's just say we need a mix of energy. so the medium tum energy. so in the medium tum that does mean gas and the government have been right to say we can attach, say this. also we can attach, you know, carbon capture technology to this means new nuclear. the last labour government didn't build a single nuclear power station. we now have a strategy to build new nuclear through have a strategy to build new nucleemodular through have a strategy to build new nucleemodular reactorsthrough have a strategy to build new nucleemodular reactors .irough have a strategy to build new nucleemodular reactors . itugh have a strategy to build new nucleemodular reactors . it means small modular reactors. it means new solar and new wind, again manufactured in the uk. >> i totally agree, a balanced portfolio though would be a good idea, but the lack of forward planning seems to be like primary school level. we should

have doing nuclear a long have been doing nuclear a long time ago. >> i agree, you know , the last >> i agree, you know, the last labour government failed to build been in build a single have been in power . 14 years. power for. 14 years. >> jordan. they could have done something about it in the interim period. >> but also that you >> but also in that time, you know, of the know, we now have because of the conservative since conservative government since 2010, the five largest offshore wind anywhere wind turbines farms in anywhere in as in the world. the economy as well you know, 79. at well has grown, you know, 79. at the same time, carbon emissions have halved . i think that's real have halved. i think that's real progress. >> so, aslef, i appreciate your enthusiasm as ever. jordan lee, thanks for joining us enthusiasm as ever. jordan lee, thanks forjoining us in westminster . now, don't move westminster. now, don't move a muscle because that man lee anderson will join me very shortly in the studio. in fact, he's rocked and know he's just rocked up and i know he's just rocked up and i know he's fighting mood. we'll be he's in fighting mood. we'll be discussing migrants. spent discussing migrants. he spent a lot in the calais lot of time in the calais jungles first hand. he's got stories , anecdotes of what he stories, anecdotes of what he saw and the stabbing, the tragic death today in dunkirk will come as no surprise to that. man will

also be discussing the war of words between his new party reform and his old party, the conservative i'm martin daubney. this is gb news. but first let's look at your weather forecast andifs look at your weather forecast and it's with annie shuttleworth. >> hello there. good afternoon. welcome to your latest gb news weather update. well, further persistent rain is to come for northeastern areas, but further south much drier south has turned much drier through the day. but in the southwest, we'll the next southwest, we'll see the next batch of rain arrive through this evening and overnight. that's front that's as this weather front arrives from the southwest. but this up to the this weather front up to the northeast . that's what's been northeast. that's what's been bringing to northeast. that's what's been bringiof to northeast. that's what's been bringiof eastern to northeast. that's what's been bringiof eastern scotland, to parts of eastern scotland, northeastern england as well. in particular, there's been quite a cold wind as well. so it's been quite a miserable feeling day. and stay with quite a miserable feeling day. and wet stay with quite a miserable feeling day. and wet weather stay with quite a miserable feeling day. and wet weather through/ith quite a miserable feeling day. and wet weather through much of that wet weather through much of the western

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news. >> a very good afternoon to you. it's 5 pm. and welcome to the martin daubney show on gb news. broadcasting live from the heart of westminster across uk of westminster all across the uk . now, in a few minutes time, i'll this. this man i'll speak to this. this man here. mp lee anderson in here. reform mp lee anderson in the studio. i'm going to ask him about the ongoing war of words between his current party reform and conservatives, and also between his current party reform anctake conservatives, and also between his current party reform anctake on1servatives, and also between his current party reform anctake on the yatives, and also between his current party reform anctake on the migrant|nd also between his current party reform anctake on the migrant camp;o his take on the migrant camp situation. a bit of situation. we've spent a bit of time them himself . also time over in them himself. also on the show. could humza yousaf be prosecuted under his own controversial hate crime laws? well police scotland had almost 4000 complaints days 4000 complaints within two days of into force. of the law coming into force. and yes, people have complained about first about scotland's first minister's own speech, his

obsession with white people . obsession with white people. delicious. he couldn't make it up.and delicious. he couldn't make it up. and with the country's suffering, a chronic housing shortage, could one of labour and sir keir starmer's big policies be the key to winning the next election? you've heard about the nimbys, he wants the nimbys that's all coming nimbys and that's all coming up in hour in your next hour. and sir keir starmer on the screen there prompted a snigger from that man, lee anderson sat next to me. let me know what you think of. pippa catterall kick off this hour with your latest news headunes this hour with your latest news headlines with sophia wenzler. >> martin. thank you. good afternoon . it's five minutes.

afternoon. it's five minutes. it's 5:00. your top story this hour. it's 5:00. your top story this hour . a new it's 5:00. your top story this hour. a new poll suggests labour could sweep to victory with more than 400 seats at the next election, leaving the tories with just 155. yougov is predicting a landslide for sir keir starmer, with the conservatives projected to win even less seats than a previous poll conducted in january . and poll conducted in january. and another change of leader may be off the cards with other mps including penny mordaunt, iain duncan smith and jacob rees—mogg all trailing their labour challengers . shadow foreign challengers. shadow foreign minister david lammy says the government should suspend arms sales to israel if it's clear that international law has been breached. it's after british aid workers john chapman, james henderson and james kirby were killed when their convoy was hit by an israeli airstrike while they were delivering vital food aid. they were part of a group of seven aid workers from the world central kitchen organisation lammy organisation. mr lammy says britain to britain cannot supply arms to israel if it's proven to have broken international law .

broken international law. >> i have now been calling for 12 days for david cameron to pubush 12 days for david cameron to publish the legal advice so that we are clear on whether israel has contravened international humanitarian law and therefore arms sales should be suspended . arms sales should be suspended. >> in other news, police in finland say a 12 year old boy suspected of carrying out a shooting at a school yesterday had been bullied, which officers are treating as the motive. another student, also aged 12, died in shooting, which died in the shooting, which happened the happened in the suburb of the capital helsinki . two girls of capital helsinki. two girls of the same age were also seriously hurt . at least nine people have hurt. at least nine people have died with more than 800 injured after a major earthquake in taiwan . this was the moment it taiwan. this was the moment it struck the east coast this morning. tremors were recorded as high as 7.7 magnitude during

the morning rush hour. news anchors rocked by the earthquake dunng anchors rocked by the earthquake during live broadcasts remains steady on air whilst the newsroom was shaking. rescue teams are now working into the night in search of survivors . night in search of survivors. more than 100 are thought to be trapped in tunnels under buildings or under buildings or stuck under landslides . questions are being landslides. questions are being asked about how a 43 year old man was able to commit two sex attacks years apart, despite receiving a jail sentence. fareed isa tariq will spend 18 years in prison for raping a woman in swindon after he tncked woman in swindon after he tricked her into accepting a ride in a fake taxi . he was ride in a fake taxi. he was previously jailed in 2012 for a near identical crime. let's cross now to brussels , where cross now to brussels, where lord david cameron is speaking after a meeting of nato foreign ministers. we'll bring you that shortly . shortly. >> target and nato is incomparably stronger. and i always feel that nato wasn't something i had to learn about or understand. i feel i grew up

with it. i was born and brought up just between greenham common, where the cruise missiles were stationed, and aldermaston , stationed, and aldermaston, where our nuclear programme was centred. the first country countries i visited as an adult were soviet union and eastern europe. so i never needed reminding or understanding of the vital importance of nato in our national life. and it's been extraordinary , having supported extraordinary, having supported it all through its quiet years, years in which some people wondered whether it had a functioning brain . i never lost functioning brain. i never lost faith in nato. i always kept the faith in nato. i always kept the faith in nato. i always kept the faith in nato, and it's great to be celebrating its 75th anniversary and a 75th anniversary, when it is so much stronger today than it has been for years. and today, of course, at the nato foreign ministers meeting, we welcome sweden for the first time as a full participant to and bring two

countries, finland and sweden, into nato, both so highly capable militarily, so financially strong, so knowledgeable about their region and their military obligations, definitely makes nato stronger. i want to just to talk in my ten minutes, because you've had a long day, why is nato so successful? what is next for nato and what will truly determine its success or failure in the years ahead? why it's so successful ? i think you have to successful? i think you have to go back to 1948. something ernie bevin said. he said when they founded nato decisions that we take now will be vital to the future peace of the world. and that was absolutely . that was absolutely. >> and that's lord cameron speaking there in brussels. and now we'll you back to . martin. >> thank you, sophia, and welcome back. and i'm joined now in our studio in westminster by

reform mp lee anderson . lee, reform mp lee anderson. lee, let's start with the news coming from france today , place you from france today, place you spent quite a bit of time in the migrant camps , a young man migrant camps, a young man tragically stabbed to death in dunkirk . have your experience dunkirk. have your experience over there. i bet you're not surprised that these kind of incidents are kicking off. >> not surprised, martin, to be honest with you, when we was there, i think it was last year, january message coming january 2023, the message coming out loud and clear from the, the local police and local politicians that we were speaking to on the ground is that there's a lot of crime in these camps. >> there's gangs. there's, you know, there's attacks. there's, some sex crimes, unfortunately, the talent that there in calais, where we went. lots of crime there. >> break—ins thefts, etc. >> break—ins thefts, etc. >> and the sad part is , martin, >> and the sad part is, martin, we've got these criminals, these criminal activity in these in these camps, in these migrant camps, and they're just waiting to come to this country. >> and we put them on a boat. >> and we put them on a boat. >> they come here, we pick them

up, put them in a hotel, hey presto, you know, a year or whatever later, they get britain's british citizenship, they get well, they get their asylum claim passed. >> some go to church and >> some of them go to church and claim are christians . claim that they are christians. actually, we're actually, all we're all we're doing, importing doing, we're not importing doctors, nurses, professionals, brain consultants , brain surgeons, consultants, we're importing a lot of the time is thieves, sex offenders and unfortunately, sometimes murderers. and this gutless government needs to get a grip of this. >> i was joined in the studio earlier. fascinating guest, sue reid. special investigations editor at the daily mail, spent 20 years on this trail. first the lorries, then the boats. she said something fascinatingly. she said that, every , asylum she said that, every, asylum seeker is a gold bar to the smugglers , and they want to do smugglers, and they want to do everything they can to get them to britain. she said something which know will resonate with which i know will resonate with you. said, in all of her you. and she said, in all of her time, all of things that time, in all of the things that have into place , she have been put into place, she now believes the only way we will ever stop this is if we simply picking up dinghies simply stop picking up dinghies

in the channel >> i said it from day one, martin in the chamber in that place , over there. the moment place, over there. the moment they land on these shores, we should them on a boat and should put them on a boat and send straight back to send them straight back to france. only france. that's the only way you're stop it. you're going to stop it. pushbacks channel as pushbacks in the channel as well. always said, well. and i've always said, look, pick people up look, if we can pick people up in channel and bring them to in the channel and bring them to this can pick them in the channel and bring them to thizin can pick them in the channel and bring them to thizin the can pick them in the channel and bring them to thizin the channel|n pick them in the channel and bring them to thizin the channel and ck them in the channel and bring them to thizin the channel and takeem in the channel and bring them to thizin the channel and take them up in the channel and take them straight it straight back to france. it takes it takes takes courage. it takes political will. well. and unfortunately, political will. well. and unfortunatyand parliament at all over there and parliament at all haven't got that courage. but the british people demand this. now we see it time and time again. another nearly a thousand at come over. at the weekend. come over. martin, in martin, how many of those in that thousand are going to be committing horrible committing all sorts of horrible crimes the crimes in this country? the people of country have had people of this country have had enough. up to the enough. they're fed up to the back you're longer enough. they're fed up to the bathe you're longer enough. they're fed up to the bathe conservative u're longer enough. they're fed up to the bathe conservative party longer enough. they're fed up to the bathe conservative party and 1ger in the conservative party and you prime minister, you see the prime minister, rishi sunak, his podium, rishi sunak, with his podium, saying, boats . saying, stop the boats. >> i mean, you shake your head there. do you think he ever believed he could stop the boats? do you think he ever truly wanted to stop the boats? >> i could stop the boats tomorrow . tomorrow? it's that tomorrow. tomorrow? it's that

simple. i've just explained it to you, martin. push backs. and the moment they land send the moment they land here, send them france . them straight back to france. and golden opportunity and we had a golden opportunity last with the rwanda last year with the rwanda flights that should have gone that flight. prime minister, that flight. the prime minister, the know, the home secretary the you know, the home secretary should have said listening should have said not listening to flights going. and i to you that flights going. and i think if that flight had had gone this would gone off then this problem would have now because have been stopped now because there's mean, i spoke there's no way. i mean, i spoke to people the migrant to the people in the migrant camps the rwanda plan, and camps about the rwanda plan, and they men camps about the rwanda plan, and they me men camps about the rwanda plan, and they me that men camps about the rwanda plan, and they me that is men camps about the rwanda plan, and they me that is way en told me that there is no way they come to this country they would come to this country if they were going if they thought they were going straight a plane africa. straight on a plane to africa. simple as that. >> want to ask you about >> i want to ask you about another of camps, and another aspect of the camps, and that's ngos , the charities that's the ngos, the charities and for calais and yesterday care for calais were making another demand. and thatis were making another demand. and that is this time we should take a palestinian, a palestinian refugee scheme, a bit like the ukrainian one. and i wanted to get your take on what you think of the charities , the ngos that of the charities, the ngos that seem to be doing everything they to can undermine the government's work and the will of the people. >> so these ngos , martin kelly,

>> so these ngos, martin kelly, have spent a day with them in calais, actually. and are calais, actually. and these are as complicit as the as bad, as complicit as the people smugglers. they are actively encouraging young men to come from africa to go to this camp. they're feeding them clothing them, giving them shelter. nothing wrong with that. that's a humane thing to do. them new do. they're giving them new mobile and mobile phones and data and learning how to speak learning them how to speak english. these are the same young some of not all young men. some of them. not all of them. by the way, but some of them committing them who are committing crimes in camps. and in france in these camps. and then to our then we ship them to our wonderful take wonderful country. they take advantage of asylum system. advantage of the asylum system. like taking like i say, these ngos taking advantage the asylum system advantage of the asylum system is business. it's is a whole business. it's a it's a it's £1 billion industry now. and right. these and you're quite right. these young is all young men, young men, it is all young men, let's their currency let's be honest, their currency for smugglers, for the people smugglers, they're worth a lot of money. they're coming from africa they're worth a lot of money. th

calais that they're calais would say that they're doing and doing the humane thing. and you mentioned they're doing the humane thing. and you merherezd they're doing the humane thing. and you merhere to they're doing the humane thing. and you merhere to defend they're doing the humane thing. and you merhere to defend themselvese not here to defend themselves and let's about and what not. let's talk about the poll that's out today. so yougov predicting 155 seats for the conservatives at the next general election. but a poll earlier this week said it will only be 80, could be an absolute wipe—out. and the main factor, of course, is your new party, the reform party being that wedge, second place splitting the vote as some people would call it. now you're with reform, obviously a lot of people will be saying, oh, he's splitting the vote. you know, a bit like they to me i was on they said to me when i was on they said to me when i was on the splitting your the brexit party, splitting your vote, don't jeremy corbyn the brexit party, splitting your vote, thatt jeremy corbyn the brexit party, splitting your vote, that somethingy corbyn the brexit party, splitting your vote, that something that 3yn in. is that something that resonates do you resonates with you or do you think now? it used think people now? well, it used to anymore. to, but not anymore. >> mean, could that >> i mean, you could say that the conservative party is splitting the vote. you know, there's anger out there there's a lot of anger out there about this two party politics people. you know, we've talked about the migrant crisis earlier. people are fed up with that. up with illegal that. we're fed up with illegal migration. are fed up to migration. they are fed up to the back teeth of legal migration you migration as well. you know, you know, into

know, 1.2 million coming into the year. and it's the country last year. and it's the country last year. and it's the same old song we chirped up by both political parties . they by both political parties. they do not listen to the public and people, quite frankly , have had people, quite frankly, have had enough. and the reform party gives people an alternative. now now, have you got any new information us about the information for us about the numbers that sign up? numbers of people that sign up? >> they were calling the lee >> they were calling it the lee anderson effect. there were 2000 >> they were calling it the lee anderorn effect. there were 2000 >> they were calling it the lee anderor less act. there were 2000 >> they were calling it the lee anderor less overnight.nere 2000 >> they were calling it the lee anderor less overnight. what's 00 more or less overnight. what's the on doors? the latest scores on the doors? >> it was in march. >> lee i think it was in march. it five, 5500 new members it was five, 5500 new members signed reform party, signed up with the reform party, which pretty good. i know in which is pretty good. i know in ashfield there's quite a few of my ex—conservative members cancel the membership and enjoying the reform party. it's going to be happening all over the country , you know, like the country, you know, like i said, martin, people are fed up. they want an alternative and they're fed of political they're fed up of political parties promises. just parties making promises. just before elections and then going going back them. going back on them. >> seems that the >> now it seems that the conservative party are taking you because , as nigel you seriously because, as nigel farage said, you only get flak when you're above the target and they're giving you a bit of flak. they're putting a few candidates out that it's very,

very to vet 600 candidates. very hard to vet 600 candidates. i know that i've been involved in that process myself, but they seem be having does seem to be having a pop. does that show that they're concerned about you? >> well, i mean, look, i mean, it is difficult. you need 650 candidates for a general election the political election and the other political parties, they parties, if they, you know, they want scratch the surface want to just scratch the surface a little bit and look at some of their know, i think their history. you know, i think there's a over past 15 there's a over the past ten, 15 years, probably seven mps years, probably seven labour mps ended sorts of ended up inside for all sorts of shenanigans. i think we had one in our intake ended up in in our intake that's ended up in prison some some vile crime. prison for some some vile crime. so it happens, know, it's a so it happens, you know, it's a difficult job to vet and make sure every single candidate sure that every single candidate is clean. is squeaky clean. >> when were still in the >> when you were still in the conservative party and is there a sense of they don't believe because of the two party system that another party can ever truly be a threat? and so therefore, is there a complacency ? see, sometimes it complacency? see, sometimes it may be seen to be boarding on on arrogance . arrogance. >> yeah. because it's been it's been that way, martin. for what, a hundred years now since the

labour was born. that labour party was born. that it's, politics, it's, it's two party politics, you either you know, it's either conservative a labour conservative or a labour government. sometimes we get a coalition. that's just how it is. there is that arrogance is. so there is that arrogance and i think they're getting a little concerned now. and little bit concerned now. and it's because there it's unfortunate because there is tories in is still some good tories in the conservative some conservative party some good tory i'm friends tory mps who i'm still friends with, probably will lose the with, who probably will lose the seats at the next election and then there's some mps who are not so good a little bit wet. the, the one nation who i think has destroyed the conservative party and i think the one nation actually worse than what the labour party are because they're just the socialists in disguise . just the socialists in disguise. >> and so do you think that's going the problem? we going to be the problem? it's we saw effectively two saw with europe effectively two conservative parties. we saw that with the labour party. i mean, you were old school labour as i as many voters as i was, as many, many voters were . and you think now that were. and you think now that this, this division is going to be big, it might even reset be so big, it might even reset the after after the the party after the, after the wipe—out. could do , i wipe—out. well, it could do, i mean, you look at the place over there i work, martin, there where i work, martin, dunng during the brexit debate and before referendum, before the referendum, the three parts was against

parts of that place was against brexit. it once again how brexit. it proves once again how out parliament is with out of touch parliament is with the general public. it's not just the labour the just the labour party, the conservative party, they're all out touch. know, they out of touch. you know, they need out more. need need to get out more. they need to time ground to spend some time on the ground talking people. you can talking to real people. you can talking to real people. you can talk migrant crisis. talk about the migrant crisis. you about net zero. you you can talk about net zero. you can anything really. can talk about anything really. they're completely of touch. they're completely out of touch. do more out of do you think they're more out of touch than they during touch now than they were during brexit? probably are , >> i think they probably are, because they sort you know we because they sort of you know we got supposedly got got the brexit supposedly got brexit done. we've not really got they think that's, got it done. they think that's, that's one box tick they can get, on to business get, get back on to business as usual and business as usual for that there is that place over there is ignonng that place over there is ignoring british public, ignoring the british public, i've got a graphic i'd like to show you if we it there on show you if we have it there on screen. calculus screen. electoral calculus looked conservative vote looked at the conservative vote and where it's going to go. i found it absolutely fascinating. so a large part of the vote will be peeling off. we can see on screen there in terms of the percentiles, look of where the tory vote is going to go. you can see there's eight, bodies there going over to there if you like, going over to reform , eight. i find this a bit

reform, eight. i find this a bit fascinatingly eight there going over to won't vote. lee. when you're out and about in ashfield and elsewhere across britain, tory voters saying they're going to check out, not bother to turn up. are you hearing that ? up. are you hearing that? >> it's not just tory voters, martin, it's tory members at and, you know, when i moved to reform party , or should i say reform party, or should i say when i had the whip took off me, i had lots of councillors contact me, conservative councillors from around the country saying weren't country saying they weren't standing were standing again. they were resigning the membership. they're fed up. they're not going to vote conservative at the next election well. so the next election as well. so that's of place the that's the sort of place the party at the moment. party is in at the moment. it's very sad. because i've a lot very sad. because i've got a lot to the conservative party to thank the conservative party for. a political for. they gave me a political home, but unfortunately, that home, but unfortunately, that home thought home wasn't the home i thought it be. it was . i it was going to be. it was. i might have all stayed in the labour party. really mean labour party. do you really mean that? there's that? well there's no difference, martin. there's probably, probably probably, i would say probably 180 to 100 good strong tories in that place over there. i've got some good friends who've got, you know , jacob rees—mogg,

you know, jacob rees—mogg, george brendan clarke—smith. people got strong people like that have got strong conservative values. that's conservative values. but that's that's you know, that's that's sort of you know, that's bullied out the way by the one nafion bullied out the way by the one nation lot who i know number 10 is fit to death of the one nafion is fit to death of the one nation lot because there's more of so got the of them. so they've got the power and it's sad for the country. >> but they'll be feeling the pinch the blue wall. the pinch in the blue wall. the liberal democrats will going liberal democrats will be going for big for their seats. i mean, big names like jeremy hunt even could trouble. names like jeremy hunt even couwell, trouble. names like jeremy hunt even couwell, hope ble. names like jeremy hunt even couwell, hope so.. names like jeremy hunt even couwell, hope so. because, >> well, let's hope so. because, you you see some of these, you know, you see some of these, you know, you see some of these, you facing seats you know, lib dem facing seats in the south southwest, and some of mps have got unfortunate . of the mps have got unfortunate. only i don't like to talk ill of my former colleagues. they're not conservative, they're liberal. nation, not conservative, they're libe mostly nation, not conservative, they're libe mostly liberal. nation, not conservative, they're libe mostly liberal. they nation, not conservative, they're libe mostly liberal. they don't|, not mostly liberal. they don't talk about stuff that we talk about, the common sense stuff . about, the common sense stuff. you know, they they hate talking about illegal and about migration, illegal and illegal migration. they think they think, you know, was they think, you know, i was called i called called racist. i was called islamophobic by some the one islamophobic by some of the one nafion islamophobic by some of the one nation not. and, you nation lot. i'm not. and, you know , i'm yet to challenge a few know, i'm yet to challenge a few of i will challenge of them and i will challenge them. want to them about them. i want to see them about them. i want to see them about the comments i made over sadiq khan back.

the comments i made over sadiq kheyou back. the comments i made over sadiq kheyou themyack. the comments i made over sadiq kheyou them calls on this >> you made them calls on this show. have regrets show. do you have any regrets about crossing over to reform? you're there you're finding your feet there or you confident you're or are you confident you're going to fight a good campaign moving forward? going to fight a good campaign moving we vard? going to fight a good campaign moving we fight a good campaign >> yes, we fight a good campaign . they've been very supportive so look at so far. people say, oh, look at him. he's been him. he's a turncoat. he's been in he's been in in one party, he's been in another now. voters do another now. and other voters do that. martin you know, i'm on a political i'm looking political journey. i'm looking for party since i got into for that party since i got into politics. it's going to put this country put british country first and put british people and unfortunately, people first. and unfortunately, the never did that. people first. and unfortunately, the conservative never did that. people first. and unfortunately, the conservative party,did that. people first. and unfortunately, the conservative party, i d that. the conservative party, i thought going to, thought they was going to, but they on migration, they failed on migration, both legal reform legal and illegal. and reform are ticking all the boxes. you're going to any workingmen's club ashfield , club in places like ashfield, which you know very well, and people say, i'm voting people will say, i'm voting reform the next election. people will say, i'm voting rechkay. the next election. people will say, i'm voting rechkay. lee next election. people will say, i'm voting rechkay. lee anderson,ion. people will say, i'm voting rechkay. lee anderson, thank you >> okay. lee anderson, thank you very in the very much forjoining us in the studio. always pleasure. studio. always a pleasure. right. that was right. let's move on. that was absolutely excellent. and it's time for biggest giveaway of time for our biggest giveaway of the year so far. your chance to win a ten grand greek cruise for 210 grand in tax free cash and a whole host of luxury travel gifts. well, your 2025 holiday

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>> earlier on breakfast, these cars were spread out over 1.6 miles. each was individually hit. >> eight workers are supposed to be protected. they should not be targeted. israel now has to answer questions as to how this unimaginable circumstance could have happened. >> this law humza yousaf himself has said there is such a high

benchmark for it actually to get to court that the police scotland now have said, look, well, look, we don't actually have the guidelines. they behave badly, they drink booze, they get drunk, they , they don't get drunk, they, they don't appreciate the culture. >> they should more grateful. >> they should be more grateful. basically, the brits put tenerife on the map from six. >> its breakfast on gb news. >> its breakfast on gb news. >> welcome back. 525 your time. i'm martin daubney and this is gb news now. later in the show i'll talk about some of the worst mistakes made by people who have won millions on the lottery. and believe me, there are absolute belters. now are some absolute belters. now police received almost police scotland received almost 4000 complaints within the first two days of their controversial new hate crime laws coming into force. of course, on april fools day, and people protested against the legislation on monday. and yes, it came in, as i said on april the 1st april

fools day, you couldn't make it up. scotland's first minister humza yousaf has said he's very proud of the country's new hate crime laws. would you believe that people have complained to the police about him ? but it the police about him? but it comes after this speech he made in holyrood in june 2020. >> lord justice clerk white every high court judge white, the lord advocate white, the solicitor general, white, the chief constable white, every deputy chief constable white, every assistant chief constable white, the head of the law society. >> white, the head of the faculty of advocates. >> white. every prison governor white and not just justice. the chief medical officer . white, chief medical officer. white, the chief nursing officer white, the chief nursing officer white, the chief veterinary officer. white, the chief social work adviser. white >> almost every trade union in this country headed by people who are white in the scottish government, every director general is white, every chair of every public body is white and i

am white. >> so is humza yousaf in trouble? well, no, he's not. police scotland said it received a number of complaints but they previously established no crime had been committed. well joining me now is the founder of fair cop harry miller. he's a former police officer and he's white. and he once had a he once had a non—crime hate incident recorded against himself over tweets that he posted. harry, welcome to the show. always an absolute pleasure , the first minister of pleasure, the first minister of scotland brought in this new law, but , you know, scotland brought in this new law, but, you know, he's scotland brought in this new law, but , you know, he's got law, but, you know, he's got form himself of being divisive in what he says. and isn't that the way it should be? we're allowed free speech without it being policed by government. being policed by the government. absolutely >> it a thing of pure joy >> it is a thing of pure joy that ridiculous act has that this, ridiculous act has come to bite him on the backside quite so quickly as it has. my understanding is that he's

received, far more complaints about his speech than jk rowling has received, which is quite something in actual fact. but getting down to more serious matter about this, i consider this to be a literal act of treason, a literal act of treason, a literal act of treason , in that this law is treason, in that this law is set, seeks to undermine and get rid of all of the freedoms that have been built up in britain in england over centuries and centuries, and centuries. and i think the antidote is to borrow a phrase from trump, build a wall. what we need to do is we need to separate scotland away from england. we need to put up a we need to put up a strong intellectual wall to stop this peevish nonsense from chairman mao coming down and spilling down into into england. and we need to do it now, martin, because the police in britain, there are certain police forces

in britain who are going to be absolutely loved . this having absolutely loved. this having sort of dealt them a massive blow with their non—crime hate incidents. >> they're now going to be thinking, fantastic. >> we can now employ an army of lowland snitches, to terrify the people into silence. and so we need to resist , people into silence. and so we need to resist, resist, resist. >> and you're the man who's no doubt going to be leading that charge. how did this ever get any legal recognition? i mean, you've you've you weren't at the supreme court, royal court of justice on non—crime hate incidents. i thought this kind of stuff had been quashed and had gone away. >> it's supposed to have now what what they will argue is that the victory that won , i that the victory that won, i only applies in england and wales. well, that's not true because we used the echr , because we used the echr, article ten of the echr was the was the legislation which is european wide that we used. so it has to apply in scotland, it has to apply in scotland. now,

one of the things that the high court judge said, he quoted extensively from both orwell and js mill on liberty. if you remember now, one of the great things about on liberty , on things about on liberty, on liberty tells us that we must not take the knee. we have a duty not to conform because cowing people into silence is the first thing that a tyranny tries to do, and it is up to noble men and women , honest men noble men and women, honest men and women, brave men and women to stand up and saying this far and no further. to stand up and saying this far and no further . bugger off, just and no further. bugger off, just get out of our lives. it is not the role of government to suppress our conversation , and suppress our conversation, and it's absolutely not the role of government to suppress our conversation , even if it is conversation, even if it is rebel conversation, even if it is slightly risque conversation within the four walls of our own homes. this is tyranny , martin,

homes. this is tyranny, martin, and it needs to be overthrown and it needs to be overthrown and overthrown for good and very soon. >> well, you're one of the brave men who will no doubt overthrow an jk rowling. of course, testing the parameters of this law on day one, pushing back and i'm all for free speech, harry. but be careful with your words. don't get him in trouble with ofcom. i need, ofcom. the last thing i need, harry you very harry miller, thank you very much me on the show. much for joining me on the show. always absolute now always an absolute joy. now there's still lots to come there's still lots more to come between and 6:00. and our between now and 6:00. and our last the targeting the last word, the targeting of the yimbys . yes, that's the people yimbys. yes, that's the people who want be built who do want houses to be built in their area, could help the labour win the next labour party to win the next general election. but first, it's general election. but first, wsfime general election. but first, it's time for your latest news headunes it's time for your latest news headlines with sophia wenzler. >> martin. thank you . it's 531. >> martin. thank you. it's 531. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom. your headlines a new poll suggests labour could sweep to victory with more than 400 seats at the next election, leaving the tories with just 155. yougov is predicting a

landslide for sir keir starmer, with the conservatives projected to win even less seats than a previous poll conducted in january . and another change of january. and another change of leader may be off the cards, with other mps including penny mordaunt, iain duncan smith and jacob rees—mogg all trailing their labour challengers . shadow their labour challengers. shadow foreign secretary david lammy says the government should suspend arms sales to israel if it's clear that international law has been breached. it's after british aid workers john chapman, james henderson and james kirby were killed when their convoy was hit by an israeli airstrike while they were delivering vital food aid. they were part of a group of seven aid workers from the world central kitchen organisation. mr lammy britain cannot supply lammy says britain cannot supply arms to israel if it's proven to have broken international law. the reform uk party has removed two parliamentary candidates for making statements that they say fell beneath their standards. jonathan kay and mick greenhow will no longer contest seats

after campaign group hope not hate. accused them of sharing racist views on social media. a religious charity is warning the scottish government against banning conversion therapy for lgbt people. the christian institute says the proposal is too broad and risks pushing what it calls harmless behaviour . but it calls harmless behaviour. but the scottish government has rejected the claim, saying the proposed law would only apply where there's a clear intention to suppress someone's sexuality. a survey found that 7% of lgbt people in scotland have been subjected to or offered conversion therapies , and for conversion therapies, and for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts . by scanning the gb news alerts. by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gb news .com/ alerts . gb news .com/ alerts. >> for a valuable legacy your family can own, gold coins will always shine bright . rosalind always shine bright. rosalind gold proudly sponsors the gb news financial report, and

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mail is now going to investigate itself about the stamps . mail is now going to investigate itself about the stamps. hmm'hmm that worked out really well with the subpostmasters , didn't it? the subpostmasters, didn't it? jeff, i can sense your cynicism. there in your tone now. joining me now is bev turner owner, who's again standing in for michelle dewberry this evening on dewbs& co 627. bev, always a j'oy on dewbs& co 627. bev, always a joy to see you. what's on your menu? >> we've got a very busy show tonight. a couple of great guests who disagree on a lot of our topics, so expect a few fireworks. we'll talking fireworks. we'll be talking about the situation in israel with of these three with the death of these three british aid workers, these impressive , remarkable young impressive, remarkable young men. is this a tipping point now? is it time to stop selling arms to israel? lord blunkett, he's been talking in the daily mail today, writing very passionately about digital id . i passionately about digital id. i think it's a terrible idea. you and i slightly disagree on this, martin. of course he's selling it under the auspices that it will stop illegal migration. will it or will it just control all of us? and also prue leith, prue the chef , she said

prue leith, the chef, she said that the government are utterly spineless comes to spineless when it comes to obesity and that the big corporations are winning the war, are making us fat. is she right ? and also, i'm sure you've right? and also, i'm sure you've discussed this as well, 141 new billionaires in the last 12 months alone. we'll be talking about what areas they work in really, and asking how do we keep people ambitious, particularly the younger generation , but whilst also generation, but whilst also letting them know that real jobs exist, which don't necessarily make you into a billionaire? should we be taxing the rich more? how do we narrow that divide between the haves and the have nots? without you know, stopping all of that hard work from those at the top ? from those at the top? >> grace of sounds feisty as eveh >> grace of sounds feisty as ever, bev. and if you find out where any of those 140 billionaires are, i'm available . billionaires are, i'm available. i could be persuaded. thank you very much. bev turner standing in for michelle dewberry dewbs& co 627 right after this show. now loads. you've been getting

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gb news. welcome back. it's 540. we're on the final furlong. i'm martin daubney on gb news now. the uk is suffering from a huge housing shortage. and could that be the key to winning the next general election? well sir keir starmer and the labour party are targeting dozens of seats where people are significantly more pro—development than your average common or garden voter. and it marks one of the clearest political divides with the conservatives. thus far, with prime minister rishi sunak facing criticism from his own

backbenchers for scrapping housebuilding targets. well, i'm joined now in our westminster studio by the property consultant and political commentator russell quirk. russell, thank you very much for coming into the studio. fair to say you're not ordinarily sir keir starmer or labour party's biggest fan, but you like this idea. tell me why i do. >> i wouldn't normally be associated with keir starmer or the labour party, but i think you have to give credit where credit's think it's very credit's due. i think it's very easy to be partisan and to say anything is anything that labour say is wrong, anything wrong, and anything that conservatives say is right, although probably between although i'm probably between those two stools, frankly, politically . but politically at the moment. but look, about time that look, it's about time that a government politicians got government and politicians got serious about house building. we've literally as far we've spent literally as far back as i can remember talking about the lack house about the lack of house building, that building, the fact that governments developers and governments and developers and so build enough homes. so on do not build enough homes. and there's all sorts of reasons to what keir starmer has to that. what keir starmer has announced and actually with some political have to say, political risk, i have to say, is that despite the fact that a lot of constituencies that lot of the constituencies that he's are saying, he's targeting are saying, actually, house actually, we're fairly pro house building, going to rub a

building, it's going to rub a lot of people up the wrong way. and believe me, it has. you know, was sparring with you, i know, i was sparring with you, i think, to you on think, or talking to you on twitter and i was twitter earlier on and i was absolutely by absolutely rounded upon by what we nimbys , the not in my we call nimbys, the not in my back that want to back yards that don't want to see development . it seems see development. it seems anywhere time. one anywhere at any time. one wonders how on earth they think they manage to buy house they manage to buy the house that themselves or that they themselves live in, or indeed their and indeed where their kids and their are to their grandchildren are going to live. the keir live. so i think the keir starmer is say starmer sense, which is to say there are elements of the greenbelt bearing on the greenbelt bearing on the greenbelt was classified back in the 1950s that not be very the 1950s that might not be very green. on that basis, green. and on that basis, shipyards, industrial estates, old parks and so on. old car parks and so on. shouldn't we reclassify those bits and build on them? >> see, that's the common conception, isn't it, that the greenbelt is the cotswold. it's the rolling jerusalem , the the rolling jerusalem, the chocolate box, and we can't possibly build on that. and yet, tell me about some of the developments that you mentioned that you've got on your books. they're called greenbelt, but they're not cotswold countrysides, are they. >> indeed. a lot of a lot

>> indeed. so a lot of a lot of development within the green belt, which is now dilapidated, of the of course, predates the greenbelt from greenbelt classification from the dealing the 1950s. so i'm dealing right now in brentwood in essex, where i live with a, a planning matter which has been received by the planning authorities, and automatic no. but it's an old scrap and shipyard in the middle of the countryside, backing on to a golf course which is frankly worse than dilapidated, full rubbish full of household rubbish because it's been tipped on for years and years and years. the best thing for it, apart from allowing travellers best thing for it, apart from all it, ing travellers best thing for it, apart from all it, frankly, travellers best thing for it, apart from all it, frankly, which travellers best thing for it, apart from all it, frankly, which trawhole. on it, frankly, which is a whole different know, rather different debate. i know, rather than to fester as it than leaving it to fester as it is , even though it's in the is, even though it's in the green belt, should take green belt, we should take a common approach to that common sense approach to that particular of land and common sense approach to that particlsome of land and common sense approach to that particlsome nice)f land and common sense approach to that particlsome nice houses and common sense approach to that particlsome nice houses tod common sense approach to that particlsome nice houses to be allow some nice houses to be built. brentwood built. but brentwood borough council about give what council are about to give what we be a know a we think will be a know a planning, a planning decision based on the green belt being sacrosanct . it's an automatic sacrosanct. it's an automatic note and it's beyond common sense and presumably that kind of stranglehold that kind of, sort of entrenched thinking is

holding us back. >> is something else holding us back? do the developers want there to be a sudden glut of housing on the market that would drive prices down? isn't that the last thing they want? >> that's definitely true. so there are two things holding things back. and not the things back. and it's not the old rehearsed mantra things back. and it's not the old the rehearsed mantra things back. and it's not the old the planningi mantra around the planning system that's pretty broken. but it's not . one of the problems is not that. one of the problems is the nimbys, people that go to their councillors every their local councillors on every planning application. that's slightly contentious and they say, this in our say, we don't want this in our backyard, but it's backyard, literally. but it's a good with to good point with regard to developers. so something like 70% homes britain now 70% of all homes in britain now are by the top ten house are built by the top ten house builders. the big plcs like persimmon and bellway and bovis and on. they have to do and so on. they have a job to do at of their at the behest of their shareholders, is make shareholders, which is to make sure they shareholder sure they maximise shareholder value. they drip value. that means that they drip feed out their plots based on how market's doing . so how well the market's doing. so of they were to of course, if they were to develop all 700,000 what they develop all 700,000 of what they call right now , call their land bank right now, yes, you're right, that would drop prices and that wouldn't be good value. now good for shareholder value. now rather than just living with that okay, well, you

that and saying, okay, well, you know, we're just going to have to be at these behest of to be at these the behest of these housebuilder was government needs to think about a where a different solution, where perhaps we take some of the housebuilding this country, housebuilding in this country, shock, from those shock, horror away from those major builders, perhaps shock, horror away from those majoido builders, perhaps shock, horror away from those majoido themselvesperhaps shock, horror away from those majoido themselves as'haps shock, horror away from those majoido themselves as aaps even do it themselves as a government so that we can get around that bottleneck, that obstacle . obstacle. >> see, the more you talk about it, the more it makes and it, the more it makes sense. and in target they're in these target seats, they're london know london seats. and we all know that huge, barrier that the huge, huge barrier eyeball house in the 90s in west norwood for 90 grand, you'd be hard pushed get anything hard pushed to get anything for under half million. now, under half £1 million. now, salaries up. salaries haven't really gone up. in fact, in journalism the starting salary is pound for pound, identical . pound, more or less identical. so we're not having the buying power. can see why this power. you can see why this would land well, especially with young can't young professionals who can't even dream of getting on the property ladder. >> it do, obviously >> and it will do, but obviously it while for this to it will take a while for this to filter through, it not filter through, for it to not just meet the needs of people that to buy a home. of that want to buy a home. but of course, effect on course, this has an effect on social housing, affordable homes, one other homes, and so on. and one other thing that found quite thing that i found quite remarkable this remarkable on twitter this morning amount people

morning, the amount of people that all because that say, well, it's all because of immigration. that's the problem. look, can argue problem. look, we can argue about out of about immigration being out of control come home. control till the cows come home. it i accept that. but this it is, i accept that. but this problem inadequate housing problem of inadequate housing has decades. has lasted for decades. way, way before coming before people started coming over to dover on, on on small boats, frankly. so it's not just that that's the problem. there are solutions to this. i'm just not that governments not sure that governments otherwise are listening. let's maybe keir starmer maybe hope that keir starmer does actually execute this does actually execute on this and the by and start grabbing the bull by the horns and thinking about green belt as something that needs little bit needs to perhaps be a little bit compromised . compromised. >> superb. russell quirk mainlining sense. mainlining common sense. it'll never on, mate. you never catch on, mate. thank you very in to the very much for coming in to the studio . now, what would you do studio. now, what would you do if you weren't an absolute fortune on the national lottery? well, apparently one man who won a few hundred thousand pounds didn't even tell his mrs. and had married to her for 30 had been married to her for 30 years. in fact, he sent her to the supermarket while the adviser came round to talk to him. some great stories him. got some great stories coming up after this. i'm martin daubney on gb news, britain's news channel

welcome back. 550 is your time. run the final. final furlong. i'm martin daubney on gb news now. have you ever wondered what happens to people that win a shedload of money on the national lottery? well, what they spend the money on and how they get along the line. and you know what? our national lottery advisor, andy carter. he's revealed the carter. well he's revealed the worst mistakes that some lottery winners have made. so are there sensible people who win, or do most people simply blow the lot of it? well, join me now is the comedian cressida wetton . comedian cressida wetton. welcome to the show. always an absolute pleasure. when i saw this earlier on, i absolutely loved it because one of my favourite stories here is guided 2000 people in total. he's handed out of a £2 billion and the funniest one to me. one

fella, he didn't even tell his missus he'd been married to her for 30 years. >> isn't that amazing? >> isn't that amazing? >> think if you're >> i think everybody, if you're out there watching gb news, you know, and linda, you know, every keith and linda, you should spouse should look at your spouse tonight is should look at your spouse toyou? is should look at your spouse toyou? are is should look at your spouse toyou? are we is should look at your spouse toyou? are we secretly is it you? is are we secretly sitting on a massive of cash? >>i cash? >> icant cash? >> i can't believe that overall , >> i can't believe that overall, apparently we're quite conservative. >> it's only 2% of people that go mad but somebody somewhere >> it's only 2% of people that go maytold jt somebody somewhere >> it's only 2% of people that go maytold theirnebody somewhere hasn't told their wife. >> , what's interesting >> yeah, what's interesting about this is that apparently i'm surprised about this. >> are more sensible when >> women are more sensible when they win. they don't on they win. they don't go on a big, massive spending splurge. they're a bit more conservative than . it's men who go and than men. it's men who go and blow it, usually on fast cars . blow it, usually on fast cars. >> how dare you, martin? well, apparently the best thing to do is to talk about it. and women like to talk, don't we? is to talk about it. and women likeso talk, don't we? is to talk about it. and women likeso tthinkon't we? lots of >> so i think we have lots of discussions before do discussions before we do anything . anything crazy. >> and also, i was surprised to learn people , i mean, learn that young people, i mean, i don't know what's going on with young people. they don't dnnk with young people. they don't drink don't seem drink anymore. they don't seem to do anything interesting anymore. apparently they're

anymore. and apparently they're very their finances anymore. and apparently they're veryplan their finances anymore. and apparently they're veryplan ahead. their finances anymore. and apparently they're veryplan ahead. their fi going; and plan ahead. what's going on with it? >> it's so sad, isn't it? i mean, just awful. mean, that's just awful. so apparently majority apparently the vast majority of people sensible. people are really sensible. i want about the few want to hear about the few people that weren't. to people that weren't. i want to hear the crazy people that hear about the crazy people that did martin, hear about the crazy people that did they martin, hear about the crazy people that did they can't martin, hear about the crazy people that did they can't they martin, hear about the crazy people that did they can't they can'tin, hear about the crazy people that did they can't they can't fit that they can't they can't fit the weekend. the pram in at the weekend. i want about the crazy ones. >> well, we of course remember that alan, that gentleman alan, who splurged all quad bikes splurged it all on quad bikes and drugs and prostitutes in norfolk ? looks like he was andy norfolk? looks like he was andy carroll. looks like he was , he carroll. looks like he was, he was an isolated incident, well, i don't know him personally, martin. i don't know if he's a friend of yours, but he does. he sounds like good time girl, sounds like a good time girl, probably to be friends probably somebody to be friends with time. maybe with in the short time. maybe not i don't know. >> what does this tell us about? does money makers be happier if we're hiding it from the missus? if we're not even spending it because we're scared of going to the wire, the people actually want to win it. i mean, i'd give my left leg to win the lottery. these people, they sound like all they do is take care of stuff and not the wife.

stuff and not tell the wife. >> is. mean , i've >> well, this is. i mean, i've got idea what it's like to got no idea what it's like to be rich, martin. guy, he rich, martin. but the guy, he says people happier in says it makes people happier in the term. not initially . the long term. so not initially. i mean, sad is that? so in i mean, how sad is that? so in the it's just the beginning, it's just a headache. then down headache. and then they sit down with all these helpful people that apparently that guide them and apparently slowly but surely, you're slowly but surely, if you're brave, used to being brave, you can get used to being mega . mega rich. >> well, i've got to say, i don't about i don't know don't know about i don't know about i do very much enjoy about you. i do very much enjoy the of winners the misery of lottery winners when lives fall apart. it when their lives fall apart. it just feel slightly when their lives fall apart. it just that feel slightly when their lives fall apart. it just that i feel slightly when their lives fall apart. it just that i didn't slightly when their lives fall apart. it just that i didn't win|htly better that i didn't win it myself . myself. >> wow. sheldon. sheldon. sheldon. freud. i can't pronounce it, that's that's so sad. martin, no, think good sad. martin, no, i think good luck to them. obviously, if it were me, you know, i'd open an enormous donkey sanctuary. that's what do. the right that's what i'd do. the right thing . thing. >> yeah, well, you've got a you're all heart. thanks for joining us on the show. comedian christina wetton, always an absolute pleasure to see you on the show. now then it is a very special news day at gb news because nigel farage is today celebrating his 60th birthday.

and if you want to raise a glass to nigel, you can do now. i'll be raising a glass with him in person. i'm about go his person. i'm about to go to his party away, party and took a few away, and i promise not to get too out of shape. but of course i'll be here with you tomorrow, three till six. got a quick email here. lee anderson, of course, was in the show earlier. graham says this. how can anyone fail to be impressed with what lee anderson had to say? i can't imagine reform uk, they will definitely have my vote. martin said this, not me . lee anderson said this, not me. lee anderson could well have the new nigel farage effect. i always like what he had to say and his common sense. no nonsense approach goes down well with me. he did the right thing switching over to reform . well, that's it over to reform. well, that's it from me. i'm off to have a couple of bevvies with nigel farage. dewbs& co is up next with bev turner standing in of course, for michelle dewberry. that's six till 7 pm. and don't forget to join us from 6 am. tomorrow. it's breakfast with stephen and ali, followed, of course, by britain's newsroom at

930 with andrew and bev. does she ever stop working ? and then she ever stop working? and then it's tom and emily with good afternoon britain from midday . afternoon britain from midday. and then my ugly mush is back at three. i'm martin daubney. this is gb news. now it's time for your weather andrew annie your weather with andrew annie shuttleworth . shuttleworth. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> hello there. good afternoon. welcome to your latest gb news weather update. well, further persistent rain is to come for northeastern areas , but further northeastern areas, but further south turned drier south has turned much drier through . but in the through the day. but in the southwest, we'll see the next batch of rain arrive through this and overnight. this evening and overnight. that's weather that's as this weather front arrives southwest . but arrives from the southwest. but this weather front up to the northeast. what's been northeast. that's what's been bringing rain to bringing this persistent rain to parts eastern scotland, parts of eastern scotland, northeastern well. northeastern england as well. in particular, been quite particular, there's been quite a cold well, it's been cold wind as well, so it's been quite feeling day. quite a miserable feeling day. and we're going to stay with

that through of and we're going to stay with thatnight through of and we're going to stay with thatnight across through of and we're going to stay with thatnight across western| of the night across western scotland, it's a very scotland, though, it's a very different drier different story, much drier here. see a touch of here. we could see a touch of frost overnight. further south though, bands though, we're going to see bands of rain, showery outbreaks of of rain, so showery outbreaks of rain most areas rain are likely for most areas overnight tonight, but it's in the southwest. see the the southwest. we'll see the heaviest tomorrow morning. heaviest rain tomorrow morning. this push into parts heaviest rain tomorrow morning. thwales, push into parts heaviest rain tomorrow morning. thwales, the push into parts heaviest rain tomorrow morning. thwales, the midlands parts heaviest rain tomorrow morning. thwales, the midlands andts of wales, the midlands and then into southeast throughout into the southeast throughout the few hours thursday , the first few hours of thursday, so expect tricky driving so expect some tricky driving conditions travelling conditions if you are travelling thursday morning. but once it does clear way, there'll does clear out the way, there'll be of showers around for be a mix of showers around for many england wales. many areas of england and wales. but going to but further north it's going to be considerably day than be a considerably drier day than it lately. so a bit of it has been lately. so a bit of respite on the way and we'll start to feel bit start to feel a little bit warmer in any that sunshine warmer in any of that sunshine that see. however, on that we do see. however, on thursday night the next batch of rain arrive from the rain will arrive from the southwest. will bump into southwest. this will bump into cold scotland, and southwest. this will bump into cold will scotland, and southwest. this will bump into cold will fall scotland, and southwest. this will bump into cold will fall asscotland, and southwest. this will bump into cold will fall asscotla|overnd southwest. this will bump into cold will fall asscotla|over the that will fall as snow over the grampians the highlands. grampians and the highlands. but once the way, once it does clear out the way, it considerably milder it will turn considerably milder but significantly more but also significantly more windy, will be a windy windy, so it will be a windy weekend, but we could see temperatures climbing above 20 degrees first time this degrees for the first time this

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