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right now it's your headlines with . aaron very good evening to with. aaron very good evening to you aaron armstrong here in the newsroom. >> the chancellor is concerned hiring, cutting inheritance and business tax in an effort to win over tory mps with his autumn statement. jeremy hunt had said tax cuts this year would be virtually impossible. now after a recent fall in inflation, he says it all depends on how much the economy is growing. >> the best way that we can reduce the tax burden for everyone is to grow the economy. there's no shortcut if we grow the economy, if we support manufacture businesses like the one i'm visiting today in sheffield, that means that we have more money to reduce the tax burden, but also to invest in public services like the nhs . in public services like the nhs. so we will always take a balanced approach. but putting the economy first is also announced . announced. >> £4.5 billion in investment for british manufacturing as he attempts to boost sluggish growth rates. car makers,
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aerospace companies and clean energy firms will benefit from the funding, which will cover a five year period and become available in 2025. after the next general election . the prime next general election. the prime minister says he's determined to press on with his plan to deport asylum seekers to rwanda, despite the government's defeat in the supreme court. >> will the prime minister rescue the rwanda plan? mrs. braverman suella braverman , who braverman suella braverman, who was sacked this week, claims his attempts won't work unless he opts out of the european convention on human rights >> the former home secretary believes the proposed new treaty and legislation are simply a tweaked version of a failed plan. a she's warned. rishi sunaks proposal will get bogged down but the down in the courts, but the prime minister says he'll take down in the courts, but the pri anyone ster says he'll take down in the courts, but the pri anyone standing he'll take down in the courts, but the pri anyone standing ine'll take down in the courts, but the pri anyone standing ine'll tway. on anyone standing in his way. the labour is refusing to the labour leader is refusing to back calls for a ceasefire in gaza, claiming his party remains unhed gaza, claiming his party remains united despite this week's rebellion on a visit to a gas terminal in aberdeen, sir keir starmer indicated his position proves he is the right person to be the next prime minister however, gb news understands
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there's concern within the party about a growing rift between sir keir and the scottish labour leader anas sarwar. msps look likely to back an amendment in holyrood next week that will call for a ceasefire a man who murdered a school teacher in ireland has been jailed for life. 23 year old ashlin murphy was killed while exercising on a canal path in tullamore in january last year. 33 year old joseph puskar had denied the murder but was convicted by a jury murder but was convicted by a jury last week. outside court, police, who described the case as a monstrous crime, praised the victim's family for showing courage and dignity during the trial . £83 courage and dignity during the trial. £83 billion courage and dignity during the trial. £8.3 billion has been promised to fix what the prime minister has described as the scourge of potholes. the funding for road maintenance in england will be available to local authorities over the next decade. it's part of government plan to spend money saved by the scrapping of the northern leg of hs2. however the estimated cost by local councils of improving the local roads is £14 billion
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and everton have had ten points deducted for breaching the premier league's financial fair play premier league's financial fair play rules. an independent commission has found everton's losses during the 21 to 22 season amounted to £1243 million. that's almost 20 million. that's almost 20 million more than the allowed limit . the penalty leaves them limit. the penalty leaves them on four points and they're in the league's relegation zone. everton says the deduction is wholly inappropriate and it will appeal the decision . that is it appeal the decision. that is it for the moment here from me. i'll be back with more later. now it's over to . patrick should now it's over to. patrick should parents who drank their kids out of school to take part in pro—palestine protests be fined ? pro—palestine protests be fined? >> right across the country, parents let children bunk off to take part in marches. now some of these children look no more than 4 or 5 years old. a school strike was organised by the hard
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left stop the war coalition in london, bristol, manchester and glasgow. senior members of that group have reportedly expressed support for hamas and jeremy corbyn is apparently the deputy president . this raises serious president. this raises serious question about the indoctrination of children , indoctrination of children, exposure to anti—semitic views and whether this should in fact be legal. one of the marches took place in ilford in london, and i want to take a look . and i want to take a look. okay. so look, we're protecting the identity of the children where we hadn't saw adult permission to put on camera standard practice. obviously, we would want to do that. saw want to do that. but i saw incredibly kids waving incredibly young kids waving flags, placards and flags, holding placards and chanting as well. now, whenever i go to these protests, okay, and i think our regular viewers here will have seen me going to a couple of them the previous couple of nights weren't you? there's always people following me other people me around telling other people not to talk to me like this
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lady. very biased . it's just lady. very biased. it's just really basic question , sir, really basic question, sir, isn't it? viewed by them? >> so we do not want to be in it. >> just you could just answer really basic questions . why are really basic questions. why are they so afraid of people saying to me, that's that's what i want to me, that's that's what i want to know. what are they afraid that i might discover? i did manage to speak to a couple of ladies, though , who kindly ladies, though, who kindly agreed to a very quick chat. i have to be a muslim. >> you don't need wear >> you don't need to wear a headscarf to actually understand that. you what? yeah it's that. you know what? yeah it's not just muslims are dying. christian palestinian people are dying . even jewish people, they dying. even jewish people, they are dying. palestinian lives matter. that's the that's the main thing that we're trying to express today is that palestinian lives matter in simple form . simple form. >> but i couldn't help but ask the first lady what her children in school made of the fact that she'd obviously pulled them out for the day. you obviously felt so strong that the kids have come school . well, what's come out of school. well, what's the school's reaction to that
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been? they've been fine with that. >> i don't know if they're fine with it. >> yeah, clearly i hadn't really asked there. but the gathering today in ilford, as far as i could see, was was fine. certainly very, very different to the i've been on the to the ones i've been on the last of days. no real last couple of days. no real aggression or anything like that. but i do wonder whether the law or schools themselves will have the bottle to clamp down on parents who take kids out of school to protest . if out of school to protest. if this continues. so out of school to protest. if this continues . so before i go this continues. so before i go to my panel, i'm asking directly, should parents be fined for taking their kids out of school to protest gbviews@gbnews.com get in touch. get on to us on twitter at gb news. but joining me now to discuss this is chairman of the campaign for real education , campaign for real education, former headteacher chris mcgovern should parents mcgovern. chris, should parents be kids be allowed to take their kids out of to go on protests? out of school to go on protests? >> in my view , they certainly >> in my view, they certainly should not be allowed to to should not be allowed to go to school. fact, it's school. and in fact, it's unauthorised absence. so they will fined if the school will be fined if the school is doing job and what we've doing its job and what we've seen today is children who don't
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understand what they're doing. they're given placards and they're being given placards and what i would also say is that we shouldn't be surprised by any of this because what's going on in schools has its roots schools today has its roots going back 30, 40 years. i remember back in 1995 when the government of the day sent a video pack to every single school in the country to commemorate ve day. it was a 50th anniversary. it was a 35 minute video. it gave 14 seconds to winston churchill and only to say he lost a general election in 1945. that was the start. and then a couple of years before that, even there were the new gcse exam came in. there were moral questions sent to schools at that time asking teachers to tell children these were gcse questions to imagine they were members of palestine liberation organisation and to explain why they were blowing up israelis . they were blowing up israelis. and that's the way that was set. 40 years ago. so the teachers in school today, they were educated like that. there's huge
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ignorance and it's appalling . ignorance and it's appalling. but i'm afraid the degradation of our system there shouldn't be surprised. it's been going for on a long time. >> is potential, >> there is the potential, chris, indoctrination of chris, for indoctrination of kids not amongst the kids not just amongst the parents who are actually potentially some of them anyway, taking the kids on these marches, within marches, but also from within the . if massively so. 50. >> so. >> it's massively quite recently when we had those three girls going from, i think a school in bethnal green over to isis, the police went into the school to see whether there was any sort of promotion of terrorism. and they said, no, it's completely clear. but let me tell you what's going on in that school and elsewhere is that teachers are teaching children that there are teaching children that there are always two points of view. so with regard to, should we say, the 911, there was the view of osama laden. there was of osama bin laden. there was the view of president bush. they are different views. are are different views. they are children but they're children are told, but they're equal views. so happened equal views. so what happened when committed their when hamas committed their terrible atrocity in israel a few weeks ago? it will be taught
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as this is the hamas point of view. this is the israeli point of view. and they are equivalent. that's what they're taught. it's called value relativism . it permeates our relativism. it permeates our education relativism. it permeates our edlokay. right. look, chris, >> okay. all right. look, chris, thank much. thank you very, very much. great to as a kind of to get your views as a kind of educational insider. really as the chairman of the campaign for real head real education, former head teacher mcgovern . now, teacher chris mcgovern. now, i don't think we're going to get a huge agreement on huge amount of agreement on the panel could panel tonight, but i could be wrong. we're to be wrong. so we're going to be joined journalist and joined by journalist and broadcaster nina i'm broadcaster nina misch. i'm looking resplendent pink, if broadcaster nina misch. i'm l yes. just as parents should be for removing their be fined for removing their children school for any children from school for any reasons that of illness, for reasons but that of illness, for taking or for taking exams in music, or for competing in sports, which is extracurricular . yeah, because extracurricular. yeah, because this is unauthorised absence and the cause is irrelevant. the point is that children should be in . i find it in school. i find it
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particularly egregious it's particularly egregious when it's very young children being taken out these are clearly out because these are clearly not children who can express any form point of view for form of point of view for themselves . these not themselves. know these are not secondary school who secondary school children who could kind of opinion could have some kind of opinion about young about this. these are young children their children being used by their parents political purposes, parents for political purposes, and it is wrong. >> it make you feel >> nina, does it make you feel uncomfortable you uncomfortable when you you see or hear of people not much older than toddlers, for example, and they've got banners that clearly their parents have written for them they're they're being them and they're they're being taken along they're being taken along and they're being part chanting. does that part of the chanting. does that make a uncomfortable? make you a bit uncomfortable? it does for does make me uncomfortable for any any child exposed to what's going actually on in palestine and gaza . and gaza. >> i wonder why the parents are allowing their children to watch the news. i mean, if they are watching the news, i can't watch. i can hardly watch the news. it makes me cry. you see you see a small child, you know, an amputee . you see a little boy an amputee. you see a little boy saying wrong in translation. what have we done wrong? what
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have we done wrong? we've done nothing wrong. and another child saying, i want i want my mother , saying, i want i want my mother, i want mother. so that's all i want my mother. so that's all terribly and that can terribly upsetting and that can if you allow a child to watch that in a primary school child to that, going to watch that, that is going to be devastating for them. and therefore, that makes them far more malleable and far more likely to want to protest because they're not they don't understand the politics of it. so it's not saying israelis bad palestinians good. they just see children in being being killed, being maimed and their houses being maimed and their houses being destroyed . being destroyed. >> my concern well, apart from all of it, really, is that some of the marches that i've been to as regular viewers of this show will know, you can obviously watch all of this stuff online. i've all out there. there i've put it all out there. there were couple of out and were a couple of out and out kind hate incidents that i kind of hate incidents that i went the night went to the other night and there were actually children at those as well. i worry that those as well. and i worry that when you see people on these marches really don't know marches who really don't know what they're about, other
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what they're on about, other than fascist than shouting the word fascist at or they don't think at someone or they don't think about free palestine means , about what free palestine means, that indoctrinating kids that we are indoctrinating kids here to grow here and they're going to grow up day to be potentially up one day to be potentially quite warped adults. >> i, i think that's a really significant point in this. i mean, i go with nina's point about i've been with my grandkids this afternoon . grandkids this afternoon. they're seven and four. you know, do i really want them in exposed to that sort of material? >> the sort of pictures that nina's talking about they're not seeing because their parents aren't letting them quite rightly so, to kids like this of that age should not be exposed to this material. if they that age should not be exposed to this material . if they are, to this material. if they are, then there is an incredibly complex ass explanation they they need to hear or the background to it, which they need to hear or the background to it , which they're background to it, which they're simply not capable of. they're not capable of it. their children leave five children alone. and what this is , is alone. and what this is, is parents and teachers is
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manipulating and using children for their own political ends. and personally, i think that's disgusting. >> okay . all right. i'll just >> okay. all right. i'll just say to you, david, one thing that somebody did say to me, which i thought was fair enough, really, he said, when he was at school, it was the iraq war and he took a day off school to go and protest the war there. and he says he thinks that history has proved him right about that. okay. all right. so what's the difference between this and that? there is no difference in that. >> neither should have happened. i at school the same time i was at school at the same time at war, remember at the iraq war, and i remember children and children going out and protesting town . protesting in the local town. and well, they weren't and they were well, they weren't suspended. they were punished for because they for it. yeah, because they had taken absence and taken unauthorised absence and i think the difference is here that children's parents are taking away , whereas these taking them away, whereas these were pupils at a secondary school for themselves. >> concern for you is that a concern for you we concern for you that we obviously have parents, of obviously have parents, loads of them. thousands of them. i mean, thousands of children right children were off today right across country , london, across the country, london, glasgow, etcetera , glasgow, manchester, etcetera, where parents clearly feel so strongly about a conflict
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happening. you know , absolutely happening. you know, absolutely himars a foreign a foreign conflict are conflict that that they are willing to potentially damage their children's education in this country. >> the point is that >> i think the point is that to them, not a foreign them, it is not a foreign conflict to it is a conflict to them, it is a conflict to them, it is a conflict that feels very conflict that is feels very present, that feels close present, that feels very close to 1984, the headmaster to them. in 1984, the headmaster , ray honeyford, the drummond middle school in bradford, wrote an article just a very straightforward, factual article, pointing out the problems then with multiculturalism in ethnically diverse societies and what he thought would happen. he was castigated for it. and we've seen that proved again and again and again that these unfortunately are not people integrated with britain. these are feel more are people who feel more connection their ancestor's connection with their ancestor's homelands in many cases than with ours . with ours. >> let's get involved there. >> i think. >> i think. >> i think that's unfair because there many people who there are many, many people who just to stop, just want the killing to stop, who don't have affiliations with palestine , who don't have any palestine, who don't have any kind of political affiliations in that way at all. there's nothing multicultural about them. people want the killing to
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stop. i mean, the most naive thought i have is give the give the hostages back and let everything stop . and that's everything stop. and that's that's going to happen. that's not going to happen. that's that's just too that's just that's just too naive . but people bear the naive. but people can't bear the situation and they feel very, very powerless. they feel helpless , hopeless. helpless, hopeless. >> most of the people actually on these i think i think a majority of them are like that. >> i really do. i really sincerely think that people are are know , they are horrified. you know, they were horrified by the psychopathic, barbaric murder on october murders on october the 7th. but they're equally horrified by this. >> okay, neil, do you think that the police or schools will have the police or schools will have the bottle? if this continues, then do you think the police or schools will have the bottle to find parents or prosecute them if they keep their kids out of school ? there is a essentially school? there is a essentially a hard left organisation now. the stop the war coalition that is willing schools strikes. this willing to schools strikes. this is only going to get get worse and is only going to get get worse ancthey're going to fuel >> they're going to try to fuel this. they're to try to this. they're going to try to drum because good drum up because it's good footage . this centres on the
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footage. this centres on the schools and what they're going to do at if my daughter tried to take those to her two kids on a houday take those to her two kids on a holiday tomorrow for 2 or 3 days, what would happen? she'd be absolutely castigated by the school. what's happening in these schools about this? there's a quote in one of the cuttings that i read that had teachers , some teachers saying, teachers, some teachers saying, well , they're only out for well, they're only out for a couple of days. you have to be out for a certain number of days , four days. >> i'm not a parent, but i think four days. >> yeah, yeah. before it >> yeah, yeah, yeah. before it has be action taken. yeah, has to be action taken. yeah, well, that's simply wrong because at the bottom because these kids at the bottom line, children age line, children of this age should not be taking part in demonstrations. primary school is wrong . is out exactly wrong. >> and the problem for me is, having been to a couple of these marches, the last three marches, three in the last three days. so with this days. right. less so with this one to an extent. but certainly the what was the other ones, what i was heanng the other ones, what i was hearing and seeing them, the kind was interacting kind of people i was interacting with, very with, i would be very, very concerned those people were concerned if those people were telling society's children what
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the reality because they're only telling one side. yeah, but but also like horrendously . and also like horrendously. and that's going to be that is going to be damaging to society if you have kids growing up with those views. we're in deep trouble. but look thank cracking but look thank you cracking start now stanley start great stuff now stanley johnson whose still johnson bojo whose dad is still to we will discuss me to come um we will discuss me again yeah megan returning to hollywood the former royal correspondent charlie ray will tell us a little bit more and this is going to be absolutely kick off because let's be honest, meghan honest, he's not exactly meghan markle and prince harry's biggest the red biggest fans. she's on the red carpet again. and harry now, shockingly to distance shockingly is trying to distance himself from this latest poisonous book, which is trying to tear down our royal family despite, of course, it being his unofficial mouthpiece who's writing . but of course, in writing it. but of course, in next in the class, gb news presenter darren grimes, who's always outspoken and never short of something controversial to say, is he? and this is going to be fascinating. gay rights activist bisi alimi, who came out on national television in africa and then had to flee his
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country. they're going to debate whether people are abusing lgbt asylum claims in the uk. why well, because a man who managed to fire the three children from three different women who claim to be gay and now could face deportation for allegedly gaming our system. all of that coming your way. and much more. don't miss it .
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radio. >> time now for a bumper edition of the clash . now as recent of the clash. now as recent reports reveal that a nigerian man who has had three kids by three different british women is facing deportation after trying to scam our asylum system by claiming to be gay. tonight's fiery clash features a gay rights activist who came out live on african tv and apparently had to flee his country to safety . here, an country to safety. here, an outspoken and anti—woke gb news
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presenter darren grimes. well, joining me now is gay rights activist bisi alimi and gb news presenter darren grimes. both of you.thank presenter darren grimes. both of you. thank you very, very much. and obviously, i'll start with you, if that's all right. is it fair to suggest that some people are essentially conning our authorities by pretending to be gay in order to get asylum . oh, gay in order to get asylum. oh, i think you might just need to turn your. sorry, but you just need to turn your microphone on. i think i'll go to you, darren, then. look, do you think we're being a here? oh absolutely. >> undoubtedly. i mean, especially, you know, this man clearly came to take advantage of gravy train, and of the british gravy train, and he's alone. he's not alone. >> right . he's not alone. >> right. masterminding scam , >> right. masterminding a scam, duping 272 victims as it's it strikes me that actually, if someone can lie to that extent , someone can lie to that extent, it's not beyond the wit of man to assume that actually they could lie in convincing some civil servant that they're gay
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and oppressed for a one way ticket to bed and board . in ticket to bed and board. in britain, it's just yet another addition to the unending soap opera, patrick, that is our asylum system. i mean , the bloke asylum system. i mean, the bloke had three smartphones in his bin and his child's school bag and the court told was told that his gay partner , who helped arrange gay partner, who helped arrange his escape from nigeria was later killed. >> and you just think this is all sounding far too convenient unless you have literally the worst life imaginable. >> okay . basically. yep. same >> okay. basically. yep. same question then. look, it does look like some people are just trying to con us by pretending to be gay. now >> well, i think when you look at the percentage of people who are claiming asylum falsely , are claiming asylum falsely, they are so minimal that it has no absolute effect on the system. it doesn't make it right. >> i know that. >> i know that. >> i know what i went through to claim asylum in the uk. i know what a lot of my friends went
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through to claim asylum in the uk. >> many people who are genuinely asylum seekers are being locked up in detention centres across the united kingdom and that is the united kingdom and that is the issue that we should be talking about and yes, there are people that are scamming the system and i think we need to take measures to make sure that we give asylum to the people that deserve it, and that includes the home office working with asylum seekers or refugees who already have their system, who already have their system, who understand the asylum system in the uk, but who comes from countries that have serious anti—gay law and be able to support the home office to fish out the people who are trying to rip the system . rip the system. >> we can't stop it, but we can minimise it. >> darren just, you know your views on whether or not just because it's only such a small number of people doing it that actually it's not it's not the end of the world. >> i mean , if literally everyone >> i mean, if literally everyone patrick says declares that patrick who says declares that they're lgbt can come here and
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do that, i mean, it was 7% in 2017 that was climbing to 10% of all applicants . right. and all applicants. right. and here's the thing as well, that people have got to understand . people have got to understand. the centre for policy studies, it's a westminster based think tank. they actually say that the asylum system itself is so antiqua noted that the 1951 refugee convention action now means that 780 million people will would be actually able to come forward and say that they are ought to be recipients of britain's asylum system. so the gap between intention . and gap between intention. and outcome is growing wider than the grand canyon . patrick and the grand canyon. patrick and that's where ultimately i think britain needs to get real and accept that it can't be the end destination for everybody that wants to come here, especially given that, you know, we're talking about france, right? a lot of people, illegal migrants are coming from this is the land of baguettes, fine wines and
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human rights. it's not some land of anti lgbtq, whatever the alphabet soup is. these days. right. this is this is all marinated in a brine of liberal guilt. and the british people, i'm sorry to say, we've got enough problems. we can't be taking on all of the world's okay. basically >> i'll ask you if you don't mind , what was your process mind, what was your process like? i mean, to be fair, i imagine it was quite easy to prove that what you were saying was true, because my understanding is that you'd been on television, you had like literal evidence, right, of what was happening to you. so if you could explain about what could explain a bit about what happened for us, please, happened there for us, please, and process like and what that process was like and what that process was like and to alleviate and maybe just try to alleviate some concern issues that people might is if i just might have, which is if i just turned up from another country and claim to be gay and being gay in that country was frowned upon , despite that i'm upon, despite the fact that i'm a man, i could just get a straight man, i could just get away with it. so just talk us through process, please . through that process, please. >> all, i want to say >> first of all, i want to say this, the scaremongering this, that the scaremongering
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thatis this, that the scaremongering that is going on here, but from darren, it's appalling. but again, it's darren. i am not shocked. i'm not expect anything profound to come out from the mouth of darren. but let me be very specific. the process is not as easy as you would think. now, i have to prove to the home office i have to state what has happened to me . i have to prove happened to me. i have to prove to the home office that indeed my life is in danger and my life is in danger because because of my sexual orientation and gender identity and also i need to get letters from credible individuals who happen to know me to be gay from the country that i'm coming from . now, it that i'm coming from. now, it does not mean that people cannot fabricate this letters, right? there are people that are playing the system. and i think for me , it's even more painful for me, it's even more painful for me, it's even more painful for me, it's even more painful for me , for somebody like me, for me, for somebody like me, who almost lost my life because of my sexual orientation, to sit
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back in the united kingdom and see nigerians playing the system who possibly are even homophobic in nigeria in the first place, but saw the opportunity for them to come to the united kingdom and claim asylum. but the process is not as easy as it should be. and i think the home office should be working with people like me and so many others that understand what it means from our country to support them, to be able to fish these people out. >> look, i'll give the final word to darren, but before that, basically, you, how do basically, can i ask you, how do you feel about the fact that so many people who are coming here across channel at the moment across the channel at the moment are coming from countries where it illegal and punishable by it is illegal and punishable by death to be gay? should we be saying to people who come from some of those countries who are who are not gay themselves, should that is that a massive red flag for you , bessie? does red flag for you, bessie? does that you feel a a bit red flag for you, bessie? does that safe? you feel a a bit red flag for you, bessie? does that safe? nor feel a a bit red flag for you, bessie? does that safe? no iteel a a bit red flag for you, bessie? does that safe? no it isl a a bit red flag for you, bessie? does that safe? no it is not a bit red flag for you, bessie? does that safe? no it is not a a bit red flag for you, bessie? does that safe? no it is not a redit less safe? no it is not a red flag for me because because i am
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gay does not mean i should deny another human beings the opportunity and the dignity of your humanity. >> you look at what is happening around the world, what is war, what is climate crisis? all of these things are driving people. what is economy , crisis? these what is economy, crisis? these things are driving people away from their homes and the fact that we think the 1951 convention is some liberal and cocktail that is pop up in champagne , in chardonnay or champagne, in chardonnay or whatever , it's absolute crap . whatever, it's absolute crap. this human beings whose lives are in extreme danger and the british value says we should give. well, that's interesting , darren. >> very quickly, final word to you on that. go on. >> yeah, i mean, talking about british values there. right. what we should be saying to people you don't share our people is if you don't share our values, then sling your hook, because this country has been changed recognition. changed beyond all recognition. patrick we've seen people on the streets for jihad, for streets calling for jihad, for intifada . and actually, i think intifada. and actually, i think
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the argument there , it says that the argument there, it says that if britain turns nigeria, if britain turns into nigeria, then be perfectly then that would be perfectly fine. well, no, it wouldn't. we are british and we actually want to remain tolerant and accepting. and i'm afraid the argument there was one that says that we would be transformed even further beyond all recognition. and i don't want that. and i imagine most of your viewers don't either. >> patrick, both of you, thank you very, much. i mean, you very, very much. i mean, fascinating discussion . could you very, very much. i mean, fasicouldig discussion . could you very, very much. i mean, fasicould have:ussion . could you very, very much. i mean, fasicould have carried . could you very, very much. i mean, fasicould have carried that could you very, very much. i mean, fasicould have carried that oi'ijld we could have carried that on for another hour, actually. maybe but maybe we should have done. but there go. who do you agree there we go. who do you agree with? are people abusing with? okay. are people abusing lgbt rights to con? are asylum system. paddy on x says like everything, of course people will abuse the system. however, him having three children does not prove he is not gay. yeah. interesting i mean, i think the point there is that he had them after he was claiming that he was gay initially, which yes . was gay initially, which yes. all right. fine. doesn't necessarily prove that. but i mean it often quite a strong mean it is often quite a strong indication. kojak on twitter says anyone coming here illegally on a dinghy from france or
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france without a passport or visa immediately visa should immediately be deported exceptions. deported without any exceptions. and regardless of their race, nationality, sexuality or nationality, sex, sexuality or age, says yes . yes. it's one age, mel says yes. yes. it's one of the only ways they can legitimately get in. but you tend to know when someone is gay, there will always be telltale signs, matter telltale signs, no matter how small. verdict telltale signs, no matter how snin.l. verdict telltale signs, no matter how snin now. verdict telltale signs, no matter how snin now. so verdict telltale signs, no matter how snin now. so i verdict telltale signs, no matter how snin now. so i was verdict telltale signs, no matter how snin now. so i was asking'dict telltale signs, no matter how snin now. so i was asking you is in now. so i was asking you to take part in our poll. fantastic stuff at gb news on twitter. wow. overwhelming results here 98% of you agree that people are abusing lgb t rights to con the uk asylum system . just 2% of you say that system. just 2% of you say that you don't agree. i'm going to go to the inbox shortly. vaiews@gbnews.com. it is absolutely flying in there every single day. it really pops off. so thank you very much. but coming up, look, big gas this we will discuss nigel farage is challenges in imaceleb former campmate stanley johnson will give us more on that. oh and what's that. yeah i think we might be asking him about rumoured front bencher serious returns for boris johnson to frontline politics coming up then meghan markle is returning
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to hollywood and the sun's former royal correspondent charlie ray will tell us more about that, but also about why prince harry is desperately trying to distance himself from a book written by a man who clearly, in my view, wants to bnng clearly, in my view, wants to bring down the royal family. don't miss
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would want to go there and therefore nobody would go to rwanda. so nobody's human rights could possibly be violated. and . could possibly be violated. and. time now for a very special royal roundup as me again , royal roundup as me again, meghan markle makes her way back onto the red carpet in tinseltown, hollywood as she makes her way back onto it. >> i mean, she was basically a pound on soap actress, wasn't she? but harry tries to distance himself from omid scobie's latest attempt to bring down the royal family. do you believe that prince harry hasn't been leaking stuff to omid scobie? all of this, by the way, before. i've got boris johnson's dad on it. but joining me right now for the royal revelations is the latest royal revelations is the latest royal revelations is the former royal the sun's former royal correspondent , charlie ray. correspondent, charlie ray. charlie, have on. charlie, great to have you on. first things meghan
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first things first, meghan markle red carpet . markle back on the red carpet. she's where she belongs, isn't she ? clawing her onto b—list she? clawing her way onto b—list films and soaps ? films and soaps? >> well, this is what she likes doing. >> she likes all this sort of stuff. >> this was a vanity power women of in los angeles that she was at. and uh, she looked. she looked . she looked actually, she looked. she looked actually, she looked. she looked actually, she looked quite , quite nice. quite looked quite, quite nice. quite goodin looked quite, quite nice. quite good in that gown. um um. and then she , she, she gave the then she, she, she gave the hint. then that that they've got a lot of projects on the slate and she can't wait until we can announce them. but i'm just really proud of what we're creating. well i'll be novel if they're actually creating something because they haven't created much for the £80 created very much for the £80 million from netflix. it'll be interesting to see what in actual fact they're going to come up with. is she going back to acting or is she going to do more producing or what? who knows ? more producing or what? who knoyeah, mean, one of the >> yeah, i mean, one of the key reasons convinced by the reasons i'm convinced by the way, that harry was trying to
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big over work big her up for voice over work is over work is is because voice over work is about ten times easier than actually act in actually having to act in something. mean, it's dead actually having to act in someifling. mean, it's dead actually having to act in someif someone an, it's dead actually having to act in someif someone handsi dead actually having to act in someif someone hands youid easy if someone hands you a script and goes, can you just be the character in this the cartoon character in this disney than it is to disney film than it is to actually actress actually go and be the actress in maybe that's in it? maybe that's an indication they're indication of where they're at. i of it be i mean, of course it would be probably preferable she went probably preferable if she went back hollywood didn't probably preferable if she went ba she's phoned an awful lot of democrat um members uh, over there to try and get a basis there. can you imagine her in, in, in the democratic party and can you imagine her as president? good god . president? good god. >> well, i mean, to be honest, to be honest with you, charlie, i mean, i didn't really ever think i'd see a bloke who can't really walk down a flight of stairs being president of the free you know, we
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free world. but, you know, we are we as say, are where we are. as i say, i wonder what day of the week he thinks it is. >> is also true, patrick, >> this is also true, patrick, when he described he when he described when he described president when he described when he de�*aribed president when he described when he de�*a dictator president when he described when he de�*a dictator at president when he described when he de�*a dictator at a president when he described when he de�*a dictator at a recentesident as a dictator at a recent meeting, another faux pas 100. >> well, coming on to that, look, i want to get you on this book. i'm in scobie's book. apparently, he's going to rock the royal family to core. the royal family to the core. it's going to shake him to the core, i think core, etcetera. i think it's quite reasoned to suggest that he intent on to cause he is intent on helping to cause as much trouble for the royals as much trouble for the royals as possible. the question is, is harry do because harry helped him do it because he's supposed be kind of he's supposed to be kind of harry's mouthpiece, he? harry's mouthpiece, isn't he? now, harry desperately now, prince harry desperately trying scramble from trying to scramble back from being to do with being having anything to do with this well let's look this new book. well let's look at the evidence he wrote. >> the book finding freedom. when the couple left, the royal family and he denied it fanatically that he had no cooperation from harry and meghan. and it was only later that he was forced to admit that, in fact, he had got cooperation. and that was because meghan herself had had said she'd forgotten that she'd
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asked one of her aides to have a chat with him. um, now. so the evidence really is that that there is some sort of cooperation from the sussex camp . i believe that there is cooperation despite their denials, but i wouldn't be at all surprised if the couple actually now distance themselves from omid scobie , because it's from omid scobie, because it's become quite a bit of a hot potato. everything is going to be in this end game book, which comes out at the end of the month, has already been in the papers to a greater or lesser degree . and this is omid scobie . degree. and this is omid scobie. spin on it with the death of the queen harry not knowing the fact that meghan wasn't allowed to go to balmoral and so forth. so we're getting all that sort of spin. where is he getting this information from? it can only come from the sussexes camp . come from the sussexes camp. >> yeah, i mean, look, charlie, stevie wonder could see what was really going on there, i think, couldn't they? but look, when
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you when you read stories now about rift between about this this rift between harry and william, we all know that it's there. we all know that it's there. we all know that clearly is a massive that clearly there is a massive rift apparently rift there. but apparently some of is around the of its sense is a bit around the olympics well, doesn't it? olympics as well, doesn't it? and one of the roles that william got, harry getting a bit jealous them kind william got, harry getting a bit jetfalling them kind william got, harry getting a bit jetfalling out them kind william got, harry getting a bit jetfalling out over them kind william got, harry getting a bit jetfalling out over that. m kind william got, harry getting a bit jetfalling out over that. theind of falling out over that. the power play between them. do you think it's fair to say that harry always been bit harry has always been a bit jealous of william ? jealous of william? >> i think he has. jealous of william? >> i think he has . when you see >> i think he has. when you see the olympics, it's been described as an olympic road , described as an olympic road, not actually about the olympics, but it's harry is complaining because he saw william in his view, getting all the prime jobs , all the prime events that were going on, leaving harry with very little, which is not my recollection of how things went. i mean , harry, i'm afraid , has i mean, harry, i'm afraid, has got a big chip on his shoulder and clearly has had it from as long ago as, you know, 2015 from what what what we're hearing . so what what what we're hearing. so he's very disturbed about the
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whole thing. and you know, he's just jumping up and down all the time now about things that happened. >> all right, charlie, look, thank you very, very much. that is, of course, charlie ray there the wonderful reporter himself, former royal correspondent at the now now we are going to the sun. now now we are going to be just moving on because this is a massive story. it's been a huge for a lot of our huge story for a lot of our viewers, a lot of our listeners throughout the course the throughout the course of the week. reared head week. but it's reared its head again big time, because again today big time, because suella pulled no suella braverman has pulled no punches with her five point rwanda on. but of course, rwanda plan on. but of course, meanwhile , all the boats keep on meanwhile, all the boats keep on coming. we've had a surge in channel crossings today . now, channel crossings today. now, rwanda has never been more important , rwanda has never been more important, some people would say, and i'm very pleased to say that i'll be joined shortly by former danczuk former labour mp simon danczuk and his rwandan wife coco for their take on this week's ruling and some of the comments that have been made, especially by the usual types, about rwanda . the usual types, about rwanda. but coming up next, former i'm a celeb campmate stanley johnson will us his take on the
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will give us his take on the challenges that nigel farage will jungle. we're will face in the jungle. we're going see whether or not he going to see whether or not he will tip nigel to win. and how he competition he will fare in the competition overall. move
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well gb news presenter nigel farage has made an almighty splash by joining anton deck in the jungle on sunday. who better to give us an insight into what trials and tribulations he will face? apparently the face? apparently by the way, he's been forced he's already been forced to complete incredibly gruelling complete an incredibly gruelling task in there is his former camp mate, or the former camp mate, i should say, on i'm a celebrity, stanley johnson. stanley, welcome to the show. thank you very, much for coming on. very, very much for coming on. do nigel farage can be do you think nigel farage can be the king of the jungle? >> yeah , i think he can. i think >> yeah, i think he can. i think he will put it this way. >> my only point is, if frankie dettori comes in and i'm not sure if he's going to, then i
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think he'll give nigel farage a very, very close run. and i'm not sure who'll be jumping off his horse at the end . but if his horse at the end. but if frankie dettori is not there, then my money will be on nigel farage. >> ah, so do you think that maybe the best farage i think . maybe the best farage i think. go on, stanley. you take it away i >> -- >> well, -_ >> well, i'm m >> well, i'm not hearing you. >> well, i'm not hearing you. >> okay, good stuff . all right. >> okay, good stuff. all right. >> okay, good stuff. all right. >> yeah, i think that. i think there will . be there will. be >> right. look, what i'm going to do is i'm going to cut you off because we obviously need to go and sort out the delay. that should not have really been allowed happened. allowed to have happened. but thatis allowed to have happened. but that is stanley johnson. there when that i'll when we've sorted that out, i'll come to when we've sorted that out, i'll constanley to to when we've sorted that out, i'll constanley to talk to when we've sorted that out, i'll constanley to talk about to get stanley to talk about whether or not he thinks that nigel farage can win. thinks nigel farage can win. he thinks he frankie the he can. but frankie dettori, the jockey well jockey extraordinaire, may well be to actually lose. be his chance to actually lose. i'm a celebrity but apparently nigel farage has actually been doing some of the challenges already . and we also want to ask already. and we also want to ask stanley about the stanley as well about the potential johnson potential for boris johnson to end frontline
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end up back in frontline politics. could you imagine? no one really predicted that. david cameron will become our foreign secretary so can you imagine if bofis secretary so can you imagine if boris johnson comes back? how would that all pan out? but i've got a couple of other bits and bobs to bring you to these things are very, very much worth hanging on because hanging on for because the rwanda scheme has absolutely copped in courts copped it in the courts recently. we seen? recently. but what have we seen? well, a surge in well, there's been a surge in migrant suella migrant crossings. suella braverman has pumped up, but given top five priorities given her top five priorities for actually going getting given her top five priorities for ithingly going getting given her top five priorities for (thing offoing getting given her top five priorities for (thing offoingground,tting given her top five priorities for (thing offoingground, which this thing off the ground, which just wonder, doesn't just make you wonder, doesn't it, what was really as it, what was she really doing as home know home secretary? although i know a viewers and a lot of our viewers and listeners indeed team listeners are indeed team suella. to talking suella. i'm going to be talking to former mp his to a former labour mp and his rwandan about their views rwandan wife about their views anyway, that rwanda is actually anyway, that rwanda is actually a safe country and try and bust some of the myths about that nation. i believe stanley johnson is back with us. stanley, good stuff. so you think that frankie dettori might be the only person that could stop nigel farage from becoming king jungle? king of the jungle? >> i think i think that is true because he will farage will deal
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with the challenges. i'm 100% sure of that. and anybody who watch matt hancock deal with the challenges will know that he had the determination and farage has got that determination as well. and he will be in his element, i think, as it were, holding, holding forth in camp. i mean, people will be listening to listening to him to you know, he is he has made his name on his eloquence and his determination. so i think he'll get there . so i think he'll get there. >> yeah. do you think there may be the tactic, maybe the tactic for nigel farage would be to try to knock out frankie dettori early on by doing something, by making look bad so that making him look bad so that nigel can then sweep to victory . nigel can then sweep to victory. >> he is going to have tremendous fun . i can tell you tremendous fun. i can tell you my experience then i had a wonderful, wonderful group of campmates on my credit credit to them. if anything makes this show, it's the fact that you have campmates to be have superb campmates to be with. who did i have? i, i had amir khan, i had i had toff, i
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had becky, becky, becky hardy . had becky, becky, becky hardy. these were, these were first rate lomas wonderful. and farage is going to really enjoy , enjoy is going to really enjoy, enjoy being that. i think he's going to enjoy some of the some of the, as it were, technical challenges as well. you know, but don't forget that this is a man who has had a lot of experience. i have a feeling he's also military he's also had military experience, it experience, too. he certainly it sounds he talks. so sounds like it when he talks. so i think he'll he'll he'll i don't think he'll he'll he'll have difficulty dealing with have any difficulty dealing with will he have difficulty not being able smoke? that, being able to smoke? that, i think an interesting point, think is an interesting point, because absolutely because smoking is absolutely verboten in the camp and i'm sure that farage is not going to cut corners here. he will have to do what he's told and if that's nick rotten , no smoking, that's nick rotten, no smoking, then you have to do it . yeah, then you have to do it. yeah, he's going to have that look. >> from what i gather, stanley toff, your great mate from the jungle, was helping to negotiate the deal between nigel farage and i'm a celebrity. and nigel will allowed to smoke in the
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will be allowed to smoke in the jungle. stanley, can i just ask . jungle. stanley, can i just ask. i'm watching a video of you right now eat something that i think is a live and also stinks . think is a live and also stinks. how did you do that ? how did you do that? >> well, i can't see what you're seeing. i can't think it's a witchetty grub. >> it's a witchetty grub , which >> it's a witchetty grub, which is a which is a witchetty grub. >> come on, richard . grub is >> come on, richard. grub is just something which is absorbed by a lot of juices from nature. so nice, juicy thing itself. yes, i think that came live. i think that was a live trial. i have a feeling we won on the on the eating the witchetty grub . i the eating the witchetty grub. i don't animal welfare don't think the animal welfare people of them, by people and i'm one of them, by the way, were wholly um alarmed by the eating of the witchetty grub. well, i can think of worse things to eat in london and probably they probably farage will have to do that. he might even have to eat his words, which in a way is the worst possible to do. possible thing you have to do. i mean, get on mean, someone might get him on brexit say, your words brexit and say, eat your words farage that would be farage well, that would be something to see. >> yeah . i mean, look on that
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>> yeah. i mean, look on that nigel farage may well use this as a vehicle to appeal to a much broader audience, a much younger audience , and then obviously audience, and then obviously surge into number 10 downing street . and i'll just firstly on street. and i'll just firstly on that , do you street. and i'll just firstly on that, do you think that there's a chance that if nigel farage wins, i'm a celebrity, he could become prime minister one day? well let's look at that. >> let's look at the rules in this country, the rules this this country, the rules in this country now, say country up until now, say a prime minister ought to come from a member of one of the two houses of parliament, and that's to say, the house of lords or the house of commons. recently let's say in the last two, two centuries or something like that. the prime minister has come house commons. come from the house of commons. now course, could now of course, cameron could come minister. now now of course, cameron could com
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>> know, cameron >> look, you know, david cameron has just come back from the political wilderness and he's now foreign secretary how now our foreign secretary how long is it really seriously before boris johnson is back ? before boris johnson is back? your son, he must be chomping at the bit. you know something? >> i've made it an absolute rule. never to speculate about what is happening to members of my family. i read about them, i talk to them. but i'm not going to speculate about what is happening there. what i will say is i'm very much interested in reading boris's book on shakespeare and i hope he is putting a lot of hard work into that because i think he's going to have some very good things to say about shakespeare. you know, like what about et tu brute for example? that's there's some things in shakespeare which really ring true. yeah well, i'll tell you what. >> you never miss a beat, stanley. you never miss a beat. if i stanley. you never miss a beat. ifi ever stanley. you never miss a beat. if i ever need anything plugging right. i'm coming to you. okay, stanley , one thing, though, stanley, one thing, though, i want to say. >> there's a chap here called syria , and he's. he's in the
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syria, and he's. he's in the running . i want someone to say running. i want someone to say you can't be syria. >> you can't be syria because of stanley. absolute legend stanley johnson there. former i'm a celeb contestant now coming up okay. the leader of the climate party, ed gemmell, joins us to discuss relationship between discuss the relationship between climate protesters and the law because extinction rebellion kick the living daylights out of a manage found a bank and manage to be found not of criminal damage. not guilty of criminal damage. but next, simon dunkirk and his lovely me to lovely wife, coco join me to tell us what rwanda is really like . like. >> evening, i'm alex deakin. this is your latest weather update from the met office for gb news. the rain is returning tonight, but it should clear tomorrow. so many places will brighten up through the day and it a bit milder as it will be quite a bit milder as well. that's because this area of is moving in of low pressure is moving in these weather fronts are bringing rain , but they're bringing the rain, but they're also the winds up from also bringing the winds up from the south—west, hence why it will be turning still will be turning milder, still dry this evening dry and a bit cold this evening across northern scotland. a little likely here, little bit of frost likely here, but turn milder as the but it will turn milder as the rain spreads northwards . heavy rain spreads northwards. heavy rain spreads northwards. heavy
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rain ireland, wales rain for northern ireland, wales and southwest england, we and southwest england, where we do office. yellow do have met office. yellow warnings temperature warnings in place. temperature is dipping down to single figures, early on figures, particularly early on in night. but by morning in the night. but by morning time will be time these temperatures will be on because it will be on the rise because it will be a wet start that rain, wet start for most that rain, particularly heavy south particularly heavy over south wales, england, wales, southwest england, a lot of spray and surface water on the roads here, but it should be clearing away to the it clearing away to the east. it may linger kent well into the may linger in kent well into the afternoon. there'll showers afternoon. there'll be showers keeping going western keeping going in western scotland and northern ireland, but of the but for a good chunk of the country brightens a bit. country brightens up a bit. tomorrow should see some tomorrow we should see some sunny spells. it will breezy, sunny spells. it will be breezy, but be quite mild but it will also be quite mild with getting up to with temperatures getting up to 14, even 16 14, 15, possibly even 16 celsius. again on sunday, celsius. windy again on sunday, particularly across the south. if anything, windier here during the day, there'll be a lot of clouds on sunday and we'll see showery bands of rain moving across. it won't rain all day. there'll be some dry and brighter of brighter spells, but for much of the it will be cloudy. not the day it will be cloudy. not too many showers getting to eastern scotland, mostly dry here. again, mild the here. again, pretty mild for the time colder
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>> it's 10 pm. on patrick christys tonight, a surge in small boat crossings today makes the rwanda plan more vital than even the rwanda plan more vital than ever. but will the stuffy and elected house of lords block it again? and is rishi sunak all mouth and no trousers? i will not rest until the boats are stopped . okay all right. i'll stopped. okay all right. i'll believe it when i see it. now i have an exclusive interview with a former mp and his wonderful new bride who also, of course, happens to rwanda aiden on happens to be rwanda aiden on whether or not criticism of the african is actually african country is actually justified . and now extinction justified. and now extinction rebellion protests who smashed up a bank have been found not guilty . yes, that's right. of guilty. yes, that's right. of criminal damage. what on earth is going on here? how can a jury actually find them? not guilty? now strap yourselves for in some sensational stories in the most entertaining newspaper review
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anywhere on national television. tonight's powerful pundits neil wallace, david oldroyd bolt and nina michkov, they get lively on the sofa. get your emails coming in, gb views and gbnews.com are woke people now , now above the woke people now, now above the law. this is patrick christie tonight. don't miss out . tonight. don't miss out. absolutely huge hour coming your way. make sure you do get in touch. gb views or gbnews.com when i come back i've got a fantastic interview lined up for you about the reality of life in rwanda. stay tuned . rwanda. stay tuned. >> good evening. i'm aaron armstrong. let's get you up to date with the headlines from the newsroom. the chancellor's considering cutting inheritance and business tax in an effort to win over tory mps with his autumn statement , jeremy hunt autumn statement, jeremy hunt had tax cuts this year
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had said tax cuts this year would be virtually impossible . would be virtually impossible. but now, recent fall in but now, after a recent fall in inflation, he says it all depends on how much the economy's growing. the best way that can reduce the tax that we can reduce the tax burden for everyone is to grow the economy. >> there's no shortcut if we grow the economy , if we support grow the economy, if we support manufacturing businesses like the one i'm visiting today in sheffield, that means that we have more money to reduce the tax burden, but also to invest in public services like the nhs . in public services like the nhs. so we will always take a balanced approach. but putting the economy first and that support for british manufacturing culminated in the announcement by the chancellor earlier of £4.5 billion in investment. >> but as he attempts to boost sluggish growth rates in the uk, car makers aerospace companies and clean energy firms will benefit from the funding which will cover a five year period and will become available in 2025. after the next general election . rishi sunak denied election. rishi sunak denied tinkering with the rwanda policy after the former home secretary
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suggested his plan to save the scheme would fail . scheme would fail. >> well, the prime minister rescued the rwanda plan. mrs. braverman suella braverman , who braverman suella braverman, who was sacked this week, claims his attempts won't work unless he opts out of the european convention on human rights. >> says, the proposed new >> as she says, the proposed new treaty and legislation are simply tweaked version of a simply a tweaked version of a failed plan. a she's warned the prime minister his proposals will get bogged down in the courts. but rishi sunak says he'll take on anyone standing in his way. the labour leader is refusing to back calls for a ceasefire in gaza, claiming his party remains united despite this week's rebellion on a visit to a gas terminal in aberdeen, sir keir starmer indicated his position he's the right position proves he's the right person be next prime person to be the next prime minister. however gb news understands there's concern within the party about a growing rift between sir keir and the scottish leader anas scottish labour leader anas sarwar's msps. look likely to back amendment in holyrood back an amendment in holyrood next will call for next week which will call for a ceasefire meanwhile, pro—palestinian protests protest organisers are planning a day of
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action tomorrow instead of another large demonstration in london, there will be more than 100 smaller rallies across the uk, ten of them in the capital, to show solidarity with palestinians and call for a ceasefire in gaza. previous weekends have seen tens of thousands of protesters gathering in london, culminating in a huge rally on armistice day last saturday. the met police says a significant policing operation will be in place . the operation will be in place. the man who murdered a school teacher in ireland last year should never see the light of day . the words of ashlin day. the words of ashlin murphy's mother as he was sentenced to life in prison . the sentenced to life in prison. the 23 year old was killed while jogging 23 year old was killed while jogging along a canal path in tullamore in county offaly in january 20th, 22. 33 year old joseph puskar had denied the murder, but was convicted by a jury murder, but was convicted by a jury last week. outside court, police , who described the case police, who described the case as a monstrous crime, praised the victim's family for their courage and dignity. during the trial . £8.3
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courage and dignity. during the trial. £8.3 billion has been promised to fix what the prime minister has described as the scourge of potholes in this country . the funding for road country. the funding for road maintenance in england will be available local authorities available to local authorities over decade. part over the next decade. it's part of a government plan to spend money saved by the scrapping of the northern leg of hs2 . the northern leg of hs2. however, the estimated cost of improving local roads in england and wales is £14 billion. a this is gb news. i'll be back with more a little later this evening. now it's back to . patrick >> now following the supreme court's ruling earlier this week. and as reports suggest , week. and as reports suggest, that downing street has not ruled out the prospect of mps working over the christmas penod working over the christmas period to get rishi sunak's emergency rwanda legislation through parliament. it got me thinking, okay, it's rishi sunak really be all mouth and no trousers. >> we've got to get the rwanda
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plan up and running . plan up and running. >> i will do whatever it takes to make that happen. people are sick of this merry go round. >> i want to end it. my patience is thin like everyone is wearing thin like everyone else is. >> e- f- else is. >> why our emergency >> that's why our emergency legislation will make crystal legislation will make it crystal clear that rwanda is safe . clear that rwanda is safe. >> feel a bit sorry for the guy. he looks almost like he'd just been crying there, didn't he? but the rwanda scheme has been absolutely slammed left, right and centre. or should that just be left really from a lot of people since inception people ever since its inception and look, here's how it was initially dealt with on bbc. initially dealt with on the bbc. >> revise your >> we want to revise your statement that is a safe statement that rwanda is a safe country . country. >> i've been to rwanda and >> well, i've been to rwanda and i've working in i've spent time working in rwanda, know there rwanda, and i can know there have been problems there . have been problems there. >> extrajudicial killings, not problems . you problems. you >> yeah, i mean, look, this guy and he's no introduction, does he ? is, of course, james he? is, of course, james o'brien. i'll have to give him one anyway. >> and if you want to live in a country where suella braverman who dreams of deporting people to a place where refugees get
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shot dead by police , ice gets to shot dead by police, ice gets to decide whether it's safe or not. theni decide whether it's safe or not. then i think you've got to give your head a bit of a wobble . your head a bit of a wobble. >> i'm joined now by former labour mp for rochdale and his lovely wife coco, who know first hand all about rwanda. so look, both of you, thank you very much for coming in. it's really to great have you in the studio. we always try to do ladies first here, go to you here, coco, so i'll go to you first, if that's okay. when you hear people talking about rwanda like that, how does that make you i feel very bad you feel? i feel very bad because that's that's completely wrong. >> the rwanda is very is one of the safest country in the world. the police officers there are very efficient and no corruption there. they empowering women. it's very the whole country is very beautiful . yeah. okay. very beautiful. yeah. okay. >> and do you wonder whether or not. simon. i certainly do sometimes, whether some of this criticism of rwanda is actually a bit racist. >> i think it's completely
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racist. and people are making this assumption that rwanda is like any other african state. and not surprisingly , african and not surprisingly, african states vary dramatically across the continent and as coco says, rwanda is economically doing very well. it's a very smart, efficient run country. it's a very safe place. so the idea that we couldn't send illegal immigrants there is just a nonsense . i mean, in terms of nonsense. i mean, in terms of the supreme court ruling, it's quite obvious the reason that illegal immigrants come to britain and don't stay in france is because not least because we have weak judges like the ones in the supreme court , and they in the supreme court, and they know that they're onto a good thing if they arrive in britain and don't stay in france. so the whole judicial system is one that's more appealing to illegal immigrants. our system is more appealing to illegal immigrants than the one in france or elsewhere. >> do you feel that some of the conversations about rwanda from people trying to say that it's
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horrible and it's a nasty place, do you think they are being a bit racist then? >> i mean, i think i don't i don't know. i can't say that it's a racist because i've been here in the uk for ten weeks and i've noticed that people they are confusing like they consider like africa, like african countries are the same . they're countries are the same. they're completely wrong . like rwanda is completely wrong. like rwanda is very different. it's very beautiful country like, yeah , beautiful country like, yeah, you think that if we send people who just come to this country, we sent them there to be processed. >> do you believe honestly that everything will be okay? there >> yeah. personally it's the rwanda is the fastest economy growing , i would say. and the growing, i would say. and the whole country is beautiful. tourists you know? >> yeah. okay and. and do you wonder then, when you see that the public voted for a government that has always said that they wanted to be tough on
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immigration the way they've acted, it's not necessarily been, though. there to be been, though. there wants to be tough on it. they wanted to enact a rwanda plan , which if enact a rwanda plan, which if you at the polls, more you look at the polls, more people support it than not support it's outright support it. it's not an outright majority, people majority, but more people support not support it. support it than not support it. and with house and you end up with the house of lords elected who could now lords and elected who could now block something that rishi sunak puts through. it'll end up getting the getting dragged back through the courts is the point courts again, which is the point suella was making, really. and this and blocked this can be blocked and blocked and people despite and blocked by people despite what public want. what the public want. >> it's all about sovereignty, isn't runs isn't it? who is? who runs britain ? that's the question britain? that's the question that's now posed. is it the supreme court ? is it unelected supreme court? is it unelected house of lords or no? the answer is that it's parliament. it's the house of commons. people who are and they've decided are elected and they've decided that this is the right policy for country and that it for this country and that it should be enacted. as point should be enacted. as you point out, more people in this out, there's more people in this country it's a good country think it's a good idea than it's a idea. and so than it's a bad idea. and so it's house of commons mps it's the house of commons mps who should enact this legislation . an and that should legislation. an and that should be where the buck stops. why we have to have this to ing and fro
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ing courts the ing with the courts and with the house lords quite beyond ing with the courts and with the houzbut lords quite beyond ing with the courts and with the houzbut rishis quite beyond ing with the courts and with the houzbut rishi sunakite beyond ing with the courts and with the houzbut rishi sunak is beyond ing with the courts and with the houzbut rishi sunak is underd me. but rishi sunak is under pressure to make happen. the pressure to make it happen. the final i'd say is, you final thing i'd say is, you know, if people are thinking that labour solution to that labour is the solution to the they're the immigration problem, they're going to a wide awakening going to have a wide awakening because the reality is their six point plan to tackle immigration is something that's already been done by this government. they aren't proposing anything new. and if we have and i worry that if we have a labour government be labour government we'll be a step to open borders and step closer to open borders and that would be a real concern for the majority people the vast majority of people in the vast majority of people in the now can i ask how easy was it >> now can i ask how easy was it for you to come to britain and what was that like for you ? what was that like for you? >> i mean, it was easy really. that's the thing people ask me, like they think that we're living in a poor, poor life style. we have technology, we have five star hotels, we have i mean, it was easy. yeah yeah, that's a good point. >> people think, yeah , oh, you'd >> people think, yeah, oh, you'd be pleased to come here. but kigali, the capital of rwanda, is a really smart city. there's
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no potholes in kigali . the no potholes in kigali. the streets are immaculate . honest streets are immaculate. honest to goodness, there's bars, restaurants , nightclubs. it's restaurants, nightclubs. it's a really thriving, vibrant place , really thriving, vibrant place, you know? yeah. people assume it's like other parts of africa. it's not anything like that at all. >> i mean, that's quite offensive for people, isn't it, to assume, you know, oh, if you go there, everything's worse. whereas you whereas actually you could probably point to some roads just studio that just outside the studio that would that would be ashamed of and they'd be ashamed of in, in kigali. but does it make you how does feel, though, does it make you feel, though, that, know, you obviously that, you know, you obviously come country legally come to this country legally and you're you're and you're here and you're work and all of this stuff, and then there people who, know, there are people who, you know, can illegally and can can come here illegally and be . and really, by the be offered. and really, by the sounds of it, quite nice life sounds of it, quite a nice life in rwanda. and they, you know, lawyers and people are trying to block that . block that. >> no, no , i don't think so. in >> no, no, i don't think so. in rwanda. i don't think so. but i think to send them in rwanda will be good. good situation will be good. good situation will be good. good situation will be to stop people, do the
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coming in in the uk illegally. yeah. so yeah yeah. >> and do you think some to some people in rwanda find it quite strange that in this country there's such a fuss about sending people there ? sending people there? >> no. yeah. no. and so what do you think about about this? >> because you know, having actually been out there and seen it yourself, there does appear to be a massive disconnect between a lot of the people who've been there and a lot of people who know it quite well and people of rwanda and know the people of rwanda and know the people of rwanda and the system and know how the system works. and a lot of the rhetoric that you get on, you know, certain certain television and you get on, you know, certain ce certain.evision and you get on, you know, certain ce certain elements and you get on, you know, certain ce certain elements of and you get on, you know, certain ce certain elements of the nd you get on, you know, certain ce certain elements of the press i >> -- >> yeah, i exam ham >> yeah, i think i think i think some people, particularly on the left, clips there left, showed some clips there just a minute ago deliberately portraying rwanda in a negative light for just simply for political reasons. that's the reality of it. we have a home there, so we live there part of there, so we live there part of the year. i've taken my children there. they're 13 and 15. milton
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has been there twice. you know , has been there twice. you know, i wouldn't take my children to a place that that wasn't safe . but place that that wasn't safe. but people on the left are deliberately painting it in a negative light in an attempt to attack the government. kia starmer has said even if this policy works, if the rwanda immigration policy works, he will scrap it . why would you do will scrap it. why would you do that? if the policy is working and stopping illegal immigrants coming over from france, why would you scrap it? that is ideological nonsense. yeah, exactly. >> now , we've not got we've not >> now, we've not got we've not got long left. i would like to say thank you both very much for coming and you said you've coming in. and you said you've been ten, weeks. been here ten, ten weeks. >> ten weeks? yeah. >> ten weeks? yeah. >> how you finding >> ten weeks? yeah. >> it'sv you finding >> ten weeks? yeah. >> it's good.'ou finding >> ten weeks? yeah. >> it's good. yeah1ding >> ten weeks? yeah. >> it's good. yeah london is beautiful, but my country is beautiful, but my country is beautiful as well. exactly. >> there you go. exactly. well, look, you. you look, both of you. thank you very much. i've really enjoyed it. i really appreciate you coming taking the on coming in and taking the time on your night well to your friday night as well to come our sofa. so your friday night as well to come appreciated.jr sofa. so your friday night as well to come appreciated. take a. so all much appreciated. take care. all right, danchuk there. right, sir. simon danchuk there. and coco as well. great have right, sir. simon danchuk there. and both as well. great have right, sir. simon danchuk there. and both on well. great have right, sir. simon danchuk there. and both on the l. great have right, sir. simon danchuk there. and both on the show.t have right, sir. simon danchuk there. and both on the show. well, ave you both on the show. well, look, we will have look, coming up, we will have
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the headlines off the latest headlines fresh off the latest headlines fresh off the press with my superstar box office panel journalist and broadcaster fleet broadcaster nina myskow, fleet street legend neil wallis and historian writer david historian and writer david oldroyd. they're going to be analysing them so you'll get the first tomorrow's first look at tomorrow's headunes first look at tomorrow's headlines and inside the headlines and what's inside the papers most papers as well. the most entertaining you'll entertaining paper of you you'll get national telly. get anywhere on national telly. but next very controversial on this. have ed gemmell, who's this. we have ed gemmell, who's discussing the potential two tier policing after extinction rebellion activists who smashed up the windows of hsbc's lunch london headquarters. remarkably found not guilty of criminal charges. have we got a two tiered justice system? stay tuned .
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radio. now >> remarkable story. this absolutely unbelievable. actually so nine extinction rebellion activist ists who smashed the windows of hsbc back in 2021 were found not guilty of
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criminal damage by a jury in a court. so the damage to the bank's headquarters is estimated to have cost £500,000 after the eco activists took hammers and chisels to shatter the glass of hsbc windows . chisels to shatter the glass of hsbc windows. i think we might have a little clip of this . have a little clip of this. small thank you. >> sitting . down the police . >> sitting. down the police. >> sitting. down the police. >> that's it's not just me. that's is that not criminal damage? apparently not. but is there actually then a two tier judge justice system when it comes to climate activism ? we comes to climate activism? we have heard a lot about two tier policing recently in light of the palestine protests that we've seen. but is there also just a way that you can now convince juries that if your cause is, quote unquote, worthy enough , then they will just find enough, then they will just find you not guilty? we saw something similar, didn't we, when the
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edward statue was was edward colston statue was was dragged were dragged down, those people were found not guilty as well. i'm joined now by jamil, who's the leader of the climate party. ed, thank you very much . a lot of thank you very much. a lot of people, included , are people, myself included, are scratching heads here as to scratching our heads here as to how you could be found, not you personally , how could be personally, how one could be found guilty of a criminal found not guilty of a criminal damage i mean, you've damage when you i mean, you've hammered the windows outside of bank. >> yeah, i mean, patrick, when you start to look at it, obviously three people were there. they were creating the damage when it comes down to whether or not that is criminal damage and whether or not they are guilty under our legal system. that's a question for the jurors. after all the evidence has been presented and after they've been directed by the judge and the judge in this case did direct them and also directed them as to what a potential defence could be. and the jurors , as i understand it the jurors, as i understand it from the articles in that that have been written about it is the jurors request did additional evidence because they
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had to get all the evidence that additional evidence because they had “were: all the evidence that additional evidence because they had “were going|e evidence that additional evidence because they had “were going to evidence that additional evidence because they had “were going to decidee that they were going to decide the case from that court hearing. case on from that court hearing. so they asked about what the paris agreement, what the conditions of the paris agreement were. they about agreement were. they asked about what british government was what the british government was doing climate doing in relation to climate change. and they also asked some information . so they change. and they also asked some inform allyn . so they change. and they also asked some inform all the . so they change. and they also asked some inform all the this . so they change. and they also asked some informall the this is . so they change. and they also asked some inform all the this is the) they change. and they also asked some informall the this is the point. asked all the this is the point. >> this is this is the point, isn't it? exactly. this is the point that it's fascinating. so there's question there there's no question about there being damage , but it is being damage, but it is fundamentally up to the sabine active nature of a jury on any given day to dictate whether or not they believe that damage to be criminal and if extinction rebellion can make the case to a jury rebellion can make the case to a jury that the world is ending, we're not doing enough to tackle that and that that particular bankis that and that that particular bank is nasty, horrible polluter, or is funding pollution . therefore, their pollution. therefore, their action in that sense was not criminal. it was justified. and i find that very, very worrying because, well, that's what we've got the law for. and we tried to
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take sabine active things out of it. i mean, what next? what next? you know, can be completely justified in doing absolutely want. if i absolutely anything i want. if i felt i would this. of felt i would never do this. of course, know it would course, you know, it would it would necessarily be criminal would it necessarily be criminal if i would it necessarily be criminal ifi punched would it necessarily be criminal if i punched you something, if i punched you over something, you know? right. mean , would you know? right. i mean, would it necessarily criminal if it necessarily be criminal if you went and attacked some cameras all around london? >> i mean, don't know. these >> i mean, i don't know. these are questions that to come are questions that need to come to the jury after the evidence is given. so the police bring the prosecutor. criminal the prosecutor. is it criminal to dropping down black fabric to be dropping down black fabric over the prime minister's house? now, the axe happened. we know that the blade runners smashed up the cameras and it's then up to the case to be brought before the jury. and we're we have the right to a trial our peers right to a trial by our peers since the magna carta in 1215. and so it's quite right that our peers go out and then decide if we're justified in taking. >> think maybe >> do you not think maybe there's of fear? right. there's a bit of fear? right. this my point. know, this is my point. you know, i think a little bit think there's maybe a little bit of so you're saying to of fear. so you're saying to a group of people who probably don't be there because
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don't want to be there because they've been called up jury they've been called up forjury service, group service, that this group of people willing smash the people were willing to smash the windows potentially commit windows or potentially commit acts people would acts that many people would regard as criminal damage or as well during the black lives matter situation where they tore down edward down that statue of edward colston the colston and dragged it into the water. was a very similar water. there was a very similar situation where the jurors situation there where the jurors know that there is potentially a mob waiting for them if they find this lot guilty. do you not think this is kind of like mafia tactics here? >> i mean, i don't patrick. >> i mean, i don't patrick. >> and to be honest, the other side of the argument where we will have to wait as well is the blade runners. so if any of them are brought in front of juries, what anybody what happens? and would anybody be mob in that be worried about the mob in that situation? that situation? an i don't think that is issue. situation? an i don't think that is issue i situation? an i don't think that is issue. i think the jurors is the issue. i think the jurors are there. they know they're going protection anyway going to have protection anyway of when they go of the police when they go outside. don't that's outside. i don't think that's the issue. what you're the issue. i think what you're more is the jurors more likely to see is the jurors there , right. there saying, right. these people they committed that people say they committed that damage they believe that damage because they believe that there is a huge damage being happening to the world. and it's being caused partly by hsbc and
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its . and they then its investments. and they then have gone out and asked for information saying, right. how serious is that potential damage? know, what's that damage? you know, what's in that paris talking about? >> i just what has hsbc done to actually make it worse ? actually make it worse? >> and they've gone and asked for that information. and then just like you or i, without being experts, gone and being experts, they've gone and said my reasonable opinion. that's justified only causes only and only only woke causes would win this. >> right. if i thought if i thought that the which i'm not i don't necessarily think this by the way this is just purely an example right off the top of my head. now, if i thought the rnli were helping to aid and abet human traffickers, bringing people into this country. right. and i then decided to go and damage the boats of the rnli , i damage the boats of the rnli, i would then have to try to convince a jury, would i, that my damage to those boats was justified because i think that they're putting money in the
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pockets of human traffickers and that they are potentially aiding and abetting a national security risk. i'll emphasise again, i do not actually think this it's a purely hypothetical example, right, but that's the same thing, isn't it? people with thing, isn't it? and people with respect suspect on your side respect i suspect on your side of the argument would think that waswhen were talking about >> when were talking about justified the judge is going to direct them. look i mean you know, i'm a lawyer a long, long, long time ago and i'm not a criminal lawyer. so i say criminal lawyer. so i can't say i know this intimately in any way, but what's happening is the prosecution have prosecution or the defence have played out their cases. people have statements to have made their statements to try and justify it. and the judge to the judge will then say to the jurors, my jurors, right, this is my direction . these are the direction. these are the defences are available . all defences that are available. all these are the things you can decide jurors go off decide on. and the jurors go off and decide. so so and do and decide. so so and i do think, patrick, i've mentioned it and you it a couple of times and you mentioned woke argument. i mentioned the woke argument. i mean, blade runners what they mean, blade runners is what they were cameras in were doing to the cameras in london, though they've not london, even though they've not been not been nothing. been they've not been nothing. >> culminated there >> nothing's culminated there yet in terms of. well, you're right. wait and right. we'll have to wait and
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see. amazed situation but see. i'd be amazed situation but i'd be i'd be amazed. i'd be amazed, you know, because you i'd be i'd be amazed. i'd be amethings)u know, because you i'd be i'd be amazed. i'd be amethings like row, because you i'd be i'd be amazed. i'd be amethings like the because you i'd be i'd be amazed. i'd be amethings like the black se you i'd be i'd be amazed. i'd be amethings like the black livesu see things like the black lives matter movement a huge matter movement puts a huge amount on people amount of pressure on people and unbelievable amount of pressure on people and unipeople,le amount of pressure on people and unipeople, especially at a on people, especially at a corporate right. and you corporate level. right. and you know, don't want that in know, people don't want that in their the their lives. they see the extinction rebellion and people like that can at times , i think, like that can at times, i think, be well whether they be quite well whether they realise not can be quite realise it or not can be quite intimidating towards people. and i just find it remarkable that we live in country now we live in a country right now where if you've got the where i think if you've got the right that people feel as right cause that people feel as though can't . if you feel though they can't. if you feel as though if you go to a dinner party, you couldn't say, party, right, you couldn't say, oh, actually i do think maybe that the black lives matter movement is more about marxism than it is about anything else. or, you know what i do actually really that being really think that we're being a bit ott about the climate. then when you sit jury and when you sit on a jury and you're a jury room there, you're in a jury room there, you're in a jury room there, you're really going to feel, i think, unable to go, hang on a minute. there's a lot of just kick the backside a bank. kick the backside out of a bank. we this. it's we can't have this. it's pressure, right? >> agree with >> look, i don't agree with that, this particular
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that, that in this particular instance , i mean, we're talking instance, i mean, we're talking about rebellion about extinction rebellion extinction themselves. extinction rebellion themselves. now remember, that's us. now remember, that's not us. we're party . we're not the climate party. we're not the climate party. we're action we're taking political action rather on the rather than sitting on the streets. so that's not us. but in extinction in terms of extinction rebellion, have committed rebellion, they have committed now take those kind now to no longer take those kind of blocking roads and of actions blocking roads and sticking themselves to things and stuff. they had and smashing stuff. and they had and smashing stuff. and they had an in london in april this an event in london in april this yearin an event in london in april this year in which keep britain tidy was supporting it as an was their supporting it as an official supporter , hardly the official supporter, hardly the most or antagonistic most terrorist or antagonistic organisation in the country. so think no one's going to be any more scared of extinction rebellion. >> if i were if i were with respect, i was hsbc , i don't respect, if i was hsbc, i don't i don't know how you can keep the there because the office there because presumably the law now says if you've got these causes, you feel you're acting in these interests, you can do that to that building. and i think that's i think that's going to add. always appreciate our add. i do always appreciate our chats. might not agree, but chats. we might not agree, but it great talk you. it is great to talk to you. take care. said gamble it is great to talk to you. take care. who's said gamble it is great to talk to you. take care. who's leader gamble it is great to talk to you. take care. who's leader ofimble it is great to talk to you. take care. who's leader of the .e there, who's leader of the climate thank very, climate party. thank you very, very yes, very much. coming up, yes, nearly time isn't it, where nearly that time isn't it, where itake nearly that time isn't it, where i take a deep dive into couple
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i take a deep dive into a couple of tomorrow's newspaper front pages give you some of tomorrow's newspaper front pathe give you some of tomorrow's newspaper front pathe inside give you some of tomorrow's newspaper front pathe inside storiese you some of tomorrow's newspaper front pathe inside storiese ywellyme of the inside stories as well with me that. i've with me to do that. i've got legendary and legendary broadcaster and journalist michael crick , and we journalist michael crick, and we do have even more of those front pages, some of them are absolutely sensational, by the way, with my wonderful panel . way, with my wonderful panel. they're going to be back to analyse them. look i've said it before, i'll say it again when you see some of the absolutely incredibly dull paper reviews that other channels serve up, look, keep it gb news right? because this one will not put you to sleep. far from it. you will want to be ahead of the
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tells nhs i'll hold the door wide open for help from the private sector. shadow health secretary wes streeting says that labour wants private entrepreneurs in tech firms to drive nhs reform through cutting edge treatments in technology . edge treatments in technology. i'm definitely going to come back to that. all right. that is big. the daily telegraph hunt the time come for tax cuts . the time has come for tax cuts. yeah. right. i'll believe it yeah. all right. i'll believe it when it. an interview when i see it. an interview ahead of his statement. ahead of his autumn statement. the chancellor economy the chancellor says the economy is point. it is. is at a turning point. it is. but then if you're also simultaneously going to start talking about slashing people's benefits, which they are, you're going be prepared for going to have to be prepared for a big row about and then a big row about that. and then have to deal with it have the bottle to deal with it on the daily express. pm gets punchy. i'll take on anyone standing that is standing in our way that is rishi sunak on the old migrant crisis with you through the times now toxic nhs puts people at risk, says watchdog. so the ombudsman is quote shocked on a daily basis by failings. interesting to contrast this with what was on the front of the eye, isn't it? page patient safety is being put at risk by the toxic behaviour of doctors
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in the nhs. it says they go on to talk about the hierarchy , to talk about the hierarchy, fickle nature, high handed attitude of clinicians. anyone who's had any negative experience from the nhs. by the way , feel free to get in touch. way, feel free to get in touch. vaiews@gbnews.com the guardian. now one more for the now one more here for the moment, cameron calls for billions in aid risks. tory anger. billions in aid risks. tory anger . david billions in aid risks. tory anger. david cameron is marking his return to frontline politics by saying he wants to unlock billions of dollars for foreign aid over the next decade. also on the front as well, there , the on the front as well, there, the picture story that they've gone for is on napoleon. the view from france . that's a film from france. that's a film that's coming out. the french are are they? are are not happy, are they? about all of that? right. just before i go to a couple of stories on inside, before i go to a couple of stor i s on inside, before i go to a couple of stori get on inside, before i go to a couple of stori get some on inside, before i go to a couple of stori get some reaction nside, before i go to a couple of stori get some reaction to de, before i go to a couple of stori get some reaction to the can i get some reaction to the i please? because it is only laboun please? because it is only labour, it? david that please? because it is only labou ever it? david that please? because it is only labou ever say? david that please? because it is only labou ever say this/id that please? because it is only labou ever say this ?i that please? because it is only labou ever say this ? it'sat please? because it is only labou ever say this ? it's saying could ever say this? it's saying that i'll hold the door wide open essentially eventually open for essentially eventually part privatisation nhs if part privatisation of the nhs if the tories say that they get mullered, i think one of mullered, i think that's one of the truths of british the essential truths of british politics, is only the politics, that it is only the labour party that will ever be
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given headway medical given the headway by the medical profession on the one hand and by the people of the country on the other, to undertake any reform the nhs. reform of the nhs. >> because for true or for false, tories aren't false, the tories aren't trusted. the problem is that i don't think labour, because of its historical ties to the foundation of the nhs , will ever foundation of the nhs, will ever be to step far enough be able to step back far enough to the breadth and to see quite the breadth and depth of changes that are depth of the changes that are needed to make the nhs functional in 21st century functional in a 21st century society with all the complex health problems that many suffer , the longevity problems in particular that weighing particular that are weighing down nhs . so while is an down the nhs. so while it is an encouraging sign, just as sir keir's earlier comments and wes streeting comments , i always streeting comments, i always take these things with an enormous pinch of salt because i just don't think that they'll be able about it able to do anything about it that sufficient the scale that is sufficient to the scale of problem. yeah, you. that is sufficient to the scale of i problem. yeah, you. that is sufficient to the scale of i mean, em. yeah, you. that is sufficient to the scale of i mean, is]. yeah, you. that is sufficient to the scale of i mean, is thisah, you. that is sufficient to the scale of i mean, is this not.ou. that is sufficient to the scale of i mean, is this not. |j. that is sufficient to the scale of i mean, is this not. i would >> i mean, is this not. i would argue the problem is society at the minute, which can all the minute, which is we can all see needs to be done see stuff that needs to be done when a massive when it comes to a massive behemoth nhs. and it's behemoth like the nhs. and it's only party that can say it only one party that can say it and get away with it. >> well, the is, you
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>> well, the thing is, as you mentioned, david, it's a question because what question of trust because what people is that the tories, people fear is that the tories, if they started doing this sort of thing, would, would would sell our health service down the line to big america pharmaceutical companies who do not have our best interests at heart. they have their shareholders at heart. and that's not what we want. >> okay. talking about whether or not we got this nation's best interests at heart, can i just introduce you to phrase introduce you to the phrase she's love doing this she's why i love doing this paper much? we paper of you so much? because we don't the front don't just give you the front pages. i'll go to you on this, neil. it's something that's inside from the inside the book here from the times. i'll just read times. right. i'll just read a bit this. so bit of an extract on this. so it's £12,000 for dinner and a photo. it says david cameron's lucrative china links speeches. the three hour meetings trumpeted by beijing raised questions about the new foreign secretary's judgement for chinese entrepreneurs and government officials keen to understand british culture. the luxury golf courses, cambridge lectures, tours of aristocratic estates , and a speech by the estates, and a speech by the duke of york . well, they were
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duke of york. well, they were enticing, but apparently david cameron's been on the old china circuit . is cameron's been on the old china circuit. is this not a massive problem for a foreign secretary? this is what's called a massive problem for a new foreign secretary. >> yes . at the moment, he was >> yes. at the moment, he was announced the first word literally that came into my mind was china. yeah how the hell do you deal with the problem of china? and as you read through this piece, incidentally , he has this piece, incidentally, he has been trying to fill his boots ever since he lost office with with via china . he he talks at with via china. he he talks at £8,000 tours of chinese coming in this country. he speaks in shanghai at dinners where people are paying £12,000 a head. he charges . £120,000 an hour. what charges. £120,000 an hour. what on a speaking circuit. it's outrageous . all of this is in outrageous. all of this is in here. he is also the major
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thing. the major thing is he tried to establish a £1 billion in investment fund by seeking chinese backing . now, he failed chinese backing. now, he failed on this, but this is not the first time that cameron has turned to china and tried to fill his boots. all right, david, david gordon . david, david gordon. >> well, i think this is one of the things that the nation seems to have forgotten is that george the things that the nation seems to have 1and tten is that george the things that the nation seems to have 1and tten iscameron,'ge osborne and david cameron, throughout their entire government 2010 until 2016, government from 2010 until 2016, kept need to be kept saying, we need to be closer closer to china at closer and closer to china at the same time as the intelligence services were saying everybody in british saying that everybody in british pubuc saying that everybody in british public be public life should be exceptionally of china exceptionally wary of china because anybody allowed out of china is an agent of influence and anybody chinese business and anybody in chinese business is directly accountable to the communist party. so i think this calls just into question as calls is just into question as to his i was told yesterday to his fee. i was told yesterday by a publisher that david cameron charges £100,000 for a ten speech. ten minute speech. >> no , seriously, it's no wonder >> no, seriously, it's no wonder we couldn't afford him for a show. and there's whole
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show. and there's the whole greensill thing. >> that's just the tip of the iceberg of finance iceberg in terms of finance compared compared with this. i mean, but the naivety . why are mean, but the naivety. why are you people have forgotten you saying people have forgotten ? don't think people ? i have. i don't think people have forgotten. they remember. was it president xi drinking a pint? >> yeah, the pint. >> yeah, the pint. >> you know, the way china operates. of operates. it's the kind of softly, softly approach they they they somehow just inveigle themselves. it's not a confrontational thing, but they inveigle themselves into africa, into the caribbean region, into everywhere. >> well, he's given speeches on the belt and road and our universities , as you know, this universities, as you know, this is actually genuinely look for all for all the stuff on the front pages. >> we have got. i'll just quickly again, you know, daily >> we have got. i'll just quick telegraph ou know, daily >> we have got. i'll just quick telegraph hunt ow, daily >> we have got. i'll just quick telegraph hunt the daily >> we have got. i'll just quick telegraph hunt the time daily telegraph hunt the time has for cuts. got has come for tax cuts. we've got cameron of cameron on the front of the guardian about more cameron on the front of the guardia aid. about more cameron on the front of the guardia aid. we've bout more cameron on the front of the guardiaaid. we've gott more cameron on the front of the guardiaaid. we've got there cameron on the front of the guardiaaid. we've got the daily foreign aid. we've got the daily express pm gets express here. the pm gets punchy. i'll take anyone who punchy. i'll take anyone on who wants stop we've got wants to stop rwanda. we've got the newspaper talking about the eye newspaper talking about reform this the big reform. for me, this is the big story. a question of story. it's a question of judgement and it seems that david cameron's judgement when it commercial it comes to commercial decisions after is again
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after his premiership is again and again again been shown and again and again been shown not to be 100% ironclad. no cameron was singularly the worst tory prime minister there has been probably for 40 years. >> that apart what always came through , preceded by liz truss through, preceded by liz truss and boris johnson, well, he had more significant long term undermined effects such as he's a man totally incapable of seeing beneath the surface and this is a classic example of how he can only see one thing. he has no ability to analyse. >> he's literally allowed. this is a massive , massive scoop. is a massive, massive scoop. this in the times. is a massive, massive scoop. this in the times . david this in the times. david cameron, basically our foreign secretary, has literally allowed himself to be bought by china or aspects of chinese society according to this, that is bombshell, bombshell stuff , bombshell, bombshell stuff, genuinely. it really is. look, just very quickly, one more here on the telegraph. we've not got long. i know we've not got long.
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but jeremy hunt, the time has come hunt has come for tax cuts. so hunt has vowed britain there is a vowed to show britain there is a path to lower taxes. it's an exclusive interview with the telegraph. david, do you telegraph. i mean, david, do you believe telegraph. i mean, david, do you bel not really, no , because i >> not really, no, because i don't think he has any conception of the scale of the problem that faces the nation finances. if he were going to cut ones cut taxes, the two obvious ones would corporation tax, which would be corporation tax, which is far too high at 25, and vat, which is far too high at 20, start increase start there and increase investment into the country on the one hand and cut the cost of living for people through vet neil if they're going to say that going to start that they're going to start cutting going cutting benefits, they're going to almighty row over this. >> just e.- this. >> just think hunt's got >> i just don't think hunt's got the deal that. the bottle to deal with that. >> i think that whatever they're doing truth the doing now, the truth of the matter is late you matter is it is so late you can't bring a tax cut next can't bring in a tax cut next week that's going to touch the in touch the in real terms, touch the pockets, the pound in the pockets, the pound in the pockets of the average voter. they will feel no . it reminds me they will feel no. it reminds me of john major all over again with tony blair. when they actually set the tories set the
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economy on a good road. but the problem is nobody believed them. nobody felt it very quickly. >> it's pure electioneering . >> it's pure electioneering. it's pure. that's exactly what it is, because we've got an election coming up in the next year and that's is. all right. >> cracking stuff. this. we're off flyer the papers. off to a flyer with the papers. i more more headlines i have got more more headlines coming your way a couple of more from hot off the from pages are just hot off the press. they're going to be whizzed into the studio and some of from inside as of the stories from inside as well. bumper news day well. really bumper news day tomorrow, the way. make tomorrow, by the way. so make sure you keep it gb news. then we also going having we are also going to be having our for greatest our nominations for greatest britain and union jackass. let's our nominations for greatest brit who nd union jackass. let's our nominations for greatest brit who nd uniroutackass. let's our nominations for greatest brit who nd uni(out onass. let's our nominations for greatest brit who nd uni(out on top let's see who comes out on top tonight. next, we've got tonight. but next, we've got legendary broadcaster and journalist michael crick. he's going through of going to go through a couple of those headlines for you going to go through a couple of thcwell headlines for you going to go through a couple of thcwell . headlines for you going to go through a couple of thcwell . this headlines for you going to go through a couple of thcwell . this reallyines for you going to go through a couple of thcwell . this reallyinegoing'ou going to go through a couple of thcwell . this reallyinegoing to as well. this really is going to be most entertaining be the most entertaining newspaper will see on newspaper review you will see on national why newspaper review you will see on nation you why newspaper review you will see on nation you go why newspaper review you will see on nation you go to why newspaper review you will see on nation you go to bed why
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broadcast and journalist michael crick , two new front pages to crick, two new front pages to bnng crick, two new front pages to bring you just before we talk about some of the others that the mirror here got. massive picture farage on picture nigel farage on the front they've got just when you thought could not get any thought it could not get any worse farage plans political comeback jungle there we comeback after jungle there we go. we've also got winter go. and we've also got winter warning energy costs going on about energy costs on the front there. the daily mail . okay, now there. the daily mail. okay, now i know this will matter very much to a lot of men in the uk, not 100% sure it's necessarily the big story of the but the big story of the day, but there go. scan hope there we go. prostate scan hope for every man in uk. exclusive breakthrough trial on the way. it's undeniably news it's undeniably great news again. whether or not again. maybe whether or not that's lead story but you that's the lead story but you know everyone's different, aren't they? right. michael, thank very much for joining me. >> talking of the farage farage. >> talking of the farage farage. >> well , i >> talking of the farage farage. >> well, i mean, we don't know what story is people >> well, i mean, we don't know whealways;tory is people >> well, i mean, we don't know whealways predicting people >> well, i mean, we don't know whealways predicting his ople are always predicting his political . political comeback. >> article this week >> i wrote an article this week saying i think there's 20% saying i think there's a 20% chance be conservative chance he will be conservative leader one day. >> think ? >> what do you think? >> what do you think? >> oh yeah. what do i know? >> oh yeah. what do i know? >> meant the
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questions. >> oh, you're asking me. >> oh, you're asking me. >> was the title you're >> what was the title you're asking? what do you think i'll be out do i think you'll be out there? do i think you'll be out there? do i think you'll be lee? i be conservative, lee? no, i don't i'll go back don't think i think i'll go back into the party. >> belong to as a young >> do you belong to as a young man ? >> do you belong to as a young ma i ? >> do you belong to as a young ma i don't know if they'd let >> i don't know if they'd let him back. >> i don't know if they'd let hiniback. as soon it said >> i think as soon it was said he'd welcome him back at the conference, had to . conference, he had to. >> had to. you were at that >> he had to. you were at that conference. saw the mood >> he had to. you were at that confer didn't saw the mood >> he had to. you were at that confer didn't you?1w the mood >> he had to. you were at that conferdidn't you? it'd1e mood >> he had to. you were at that conferdidn't you? it'd be nood there, didn't you? it'd be fascinating see what nigel fascinating to see what nigel does this. think. i does after this. i think. i think early yet, think it's too early to say yet, purely is a gamble purely because it is a gamble for him going in the jungle. it is. it goes really well , is. and if it goes really well, then he's got loads of options. i if he doesn't go really i think if he doesn't go really well yeah, is where he well then yeah, he is where he is. isn't it? >> my own view is that the odds are it will go well because he's, he's good at charming people a very good people and he's a very good broadcaster communicator. broadcaster and communicator. but with much but i don't agree with much of his but, you know, i, his politics. but, you know, i, i think it will. i mean, the idea is that he will win over young people . yeah. and why does young people. yeah. and why does he win over young he need to win over young people? i don't know. are you short of young people on gb news? that is all news? i think that is all part of this. possible plan.
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of this. this possible plan. yeah. there is another >> i mean, there is another argument, isn't there? is argument, isn't there? which is someone one half someone dangles one and half million front of your million quid in front of your face. saying yes to face. he's saying yes to anything, but i wouldn't be surprised if it's more than that. >> actually. >> actually. >> have to we'll have to >> we'll have to we'll have to wait and see. so that was wait and see. right. so that was the of the. that's the the front of the. that's the front dealt with front of the mirror dealt with what else? what else want what else? what else do you want to on here? to zone in on here? >> well, i thought this was interesting. cameron call for billions. he's billions. i mean, he's he's writing i mean writing the forward i mean cameron guardian, the cameron is the guardian, by the way. guardian. way. this is the guardian. cameron billions in cameron calls for billions in aid anger. and he's aid risks. tory anger. and he's written this the foreword to this document this government document apparently was the first apparently was one of the first things he did when he was appointed foreign secretary on monday. and he's basically saying he wants britain's foreign aid to go back to the levels that it was when he took it up famously to 0.7. and of course, he's been highly miffed that that it's come down since then. that that it's come down since then . and of course he's number then. and of course he's number two at the foreign office is andrew mitchell who also you know is the development secretary and well was the development secretary and is still in charge of development.
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and of course , cameron i think and of course, cameron i think is in a position right now where he's bound to win such battles. they, you know, they can't risk him resigning. it would just look ludicrous. >> yes . >> yes. >> yes. >> can you imagine seriously , on >> can you imagine seriously, on the other hand, given all this china stuff, maybe he'll maybe he'll have second thoughts. >> my immediate thought >> i mean, my immediate thought when been appointed when i heard he'd been appointed foreign has he not foreign secretary is has he not thought through? goes thought this through? if he goes into have to into the lords, he will have to declare over his his business interests on the register. now it's not quite as tough as the commons register and what i don't know is how far back it goes. but a lot of this should should come out that register should come out in that register for this, this the huge amounts of money he's been making from china. and you earlier, china. and as you said earlier, i he and osborne did i mean, what he and osborne did or david said earlier, what he and osborne did in terms of getting as close to china was crucial, although it has to be said that pretty much most of the british establishment actually went along with that only ten years ago. and the labour side too. and peter mandelson, the liberal democrats were it well.
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were quite keen for it as well. >> i was a local >> at this time. i was a local reporter in kendal, tim farron's constituency . he that local constituency. he that local council, lib dem, was perfectly happy enter into a twinning happy to enter into a twinning agreement kendal and agreement with kendal and a chinese province over there as well. there was really very little pushback. >> all our big universities, i mean, i was on the board of one of them, i have to confess, at manchester we all got very close to now it's left some to china and now it's left some of them in a very difficult position . and of course, has position. and of course, has cameron going around china cameron been going around china saying, about the saying, well, what about the uyghurs or about the tibetans or about your appalling program, which gets very little coverage of the chinese state having an industry that basically extracts organs from from political prisoners and sells them on the world market. i mean , it's so world market. i mean, it's so shocking. it's almost hard to believe. it's a bit like the way that people couldn't believe the concentration because the concentration camps because the secondary david secondary story to this david cameron times is right. >> f- right. >> so where were the >> okay. so where were the speeches was talking? speeches? who else was talking? what said at these all of what was said at these all of this comes yes, all of this this comes out. yes, all of this
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comes now. believe comes out. now. i can't believe he said to be foreign he said yes to be foreign secretary. can't really secretary. i can't really believe that. rishi sunak , who believe that. rishi sunak, who must this all must have known this was all coming , must have known this was all coming, allowed it to happen. does how he does that show how weak he is? >> i chose i shows how >> well, i chose i shows how weak his advisors are because he should have people around him saying, moment, david. saying, hang on a moment, david. you do realise this is bound to come on the register? come out a on the register? b there will be journalists digging away at and so it's that is a story that's going to rumble on and on and on. i mean, admittedly, in all probability, he's only going foreign he's only going to be foreign secretary but it's secretary for a year, but it's going be quite an interesting going to be quite an interesting yeah going to be quite an interesting yeait and if he hadn't been >> it is. and if he hadn't been foreign then foreign secretary, then we wouldn't talking about this wouldn't be talking about this stuff could have just stuff now. he could have just carried being foreign secretary. >> he'd right. >> he'd be all right. >> he'd be all right. >> interesting >> and it would be interesting to else he's been going to know who else he's been going around speaking to as well. >> yeah, be if he's been >> yeah, it will be if he's been on rhiannon jones on a circuit of rhiannon jones while the second is that would be quite would not unusual be quite would not be unusual for parties. be quite would not be unusual for yeah parties. be quite would not be unusual for yeah well parties. be quite would not be unusual for yeah well i parties. be quite would not be unusual for yeah well i shouldn't arties. be quite would not be unusual for yeah well i shouldn't laugh >> yeah well i shouldn't laugh about it. it's very sad. mean about it. it's very sad. i mean look people that look at look at the people that tony instance has tony blair for instance has consorted last consorted with over the last 25 years. very true.
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>> very, very true. mark, i've i've thoroughly enjoyed this rather succinct paper review with but been it's with you, but it's been it's been fascinating stuff as well. i just just ask like i think just can i just ask like 30s a bit more your take on 30s a bit more on your take on this, ai story here about this, the ai story here about labour now essentially basically coming out and talking about privatising the nhs in part, yeah. >> i mean look, streeting >> i mean look, wes streeting has making these noises for has been making these noises for a couple of years now and every speech he goes a little bit further and he's basically softening up the party for as you're right, effectively part privatisation of the health service. wes streeting is going to be a hugely important figure in the next of all the people in that shadow cabinet. i don't think anybody is as good a political operator as him and he's been building an army of mps and candidates . he's been mps and candidates. he's been making sure that his people, his friends, people from the student days and so on are slotted into those seats and if starmer gets into trouble , he'll be ready to pounce. >> he's that absolutely key. michael, thank you very much. top stuff that that's a proper paper review we love to see it
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my entry got in there. there we go. right and union jack has very quickly now, nina, go on rishi sunak for trying to defy the supreme court. >> nobody is above the law and we are democracy rests on the separation of powers . separation of powers. >> okay, david, mine is lisa nandy mp for writing in the times that we should take the heat out of the transgender debates and it's all very silly. >> i mean about body parts, she is downplaying the degree to which women she which this harms women and she should be castigated it. should be castigated for it. okay, us off and okay, neil, round us off and mine sir mark rowley , the mine is sir mark rowley, the commissioner of the metropolitan police. >> he promised to protect our monuments and remembrance sunday. and yet all of those palestinian demonstrators climbing over one a war. memorials it was an utter disgrace . and he is a jackass. disgrace. and he is a jackass. all right. >> thank you very much. and he is our union jackass. mark rowley, great stuff. well, look, thank you very much to panel thank you very much to my panel and done. adam as and well done. adam brooks as well , i and well done. adam brooks as well, i must say, for doing some stellar stuff there. i will be
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back again on monday from 9 pm. thank you, everyone. for a bumper first week of patrick christys tonight. next up, headliners. goodnight >> evening, i'm alex deakin . >> evening, i'm alex deakin. this is your latest weather update from met office for update from the met office for gb rain is returning gb news the rain is returning tonight, but it should clear tomorrow. so many places will brighten up the day and brighten up through the day and it be quite a milder as it will be quite a bit milder as well. because this area well. that's because this area of is moving in. of low pressure is moving in. these weather fronts are bringing the rain , but they're bringing the rain, but they're also the up from also bringing the winds up from the south—west, hence why it will be milder, still the south—west, hence why it willand milder, still the south—west, hence why it willand bit milder, still the south—west, hence why it willand bit coldlder, still the south—west, hence why it willand bit cold this still the south—west, hence why it willand bit cold this evening dry and a bit cold this evening across scotland. across northern scotland. a little bit of frost likely here, but milder the but it will turn milder as the rain northwards . heavy but it will turn milder as the rain for northwards . heavy but it will turn milder as the rain for northernhwards . heavy but it will turn milder as the rain for northern ireland, heavy but it will turn milder as the rain for northern ireland, wales and southwest england, where we do have met office. yellow warnings place , temperatures warnings in place, temperatures dipping figures dipping down to single figures particularly early on in the night. morning time, night. but by morning time, these temperatures will on these temperatures will be on these temperatures will be on the it will a the rise because it will be a wet for most. that rain, wet start for most. that rain, particularly heavy over south wales. england, a lot wales. southwest england, a lot of and surface water on of spray and surface water on the roads here, but it should be clearing the east. it the roads here, but it should be clearlinger the east. it the roads here, but it should be clearlinger in the east. it the roads here, but it should be clearlinger in kente east. it the roads here, but it should be clearlinger in kent well;t. it the roads here, but it should be clearlinger in kent well into the may linger in kent well into the afternoon. there'll be showers
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keeping going in western scotland and northern ireland, but for a good chunk of the country brightens a bit. country brightens up a bit. tomorrow should see tomorrow we should see some sunny will be breezy, tomorrow we should see some suniit will be breezy, tomorrow we should see some suniit will will be breezy, tomorrow we should see some suniit will also will be breezy, tomorrow we should see some suniit will also be ll be breezy, tomorrow we should see some suniit will also be quite 3reezy, tomorrow we should see some suniit will also be quite mild y, but it will also be quite mild with temperatures getting up to 14, even 14, 15, possibly even 16 celsius. again on sunday, celsius. windy again on sunday, particularly across the south. if anything, windier here during the day, there'll be a lot of clouds on sunday and we'll see showery bands of rain moving across. it won't rain all day. there'll be some dry and brighter spells, but much of brighter spells, but for much of the it will be cloudy. not the day it will be cloudy. not too showers getting to too many showers getting to eastern scotland, mostly dry here. pretty for the here. again, pretty mild for the time feeling colder time of year, but feeling colder with wind . with the wind. >> is it? we're here for the >> who is it? we're here for the show . welcome to the dinosaur show. welcome to the dinosaur hour with me, john cleese . haha, hour with me, john cleese. haha, that was married to a therapist and you survived. i thought we were getting hugh laurie , second were getting hugh laurie, second best man. at least you interviewed saddam hussein . interviewed saddam hussein. what's that like? i was terrified. i'm playing strip
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poker with these three. >> oh, no, thank you. >> oh, no, thank you. >> cds need to be put in alphabetical order. >> oh, are you going to be problematic again? >> the dinosaur hour, sundays at 9:00 on gb news is
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very. >> good evening to you. i'm aaron armstrong in the gb news room. let's get you up to date with the headlines. the chancellor has given the strongest indication yet that he will cut taxes in next week's autumn jeremy hunt autumn statement. jeremy hunt says with the recent halving of inflation in britain's economy has a corner . speaking to has turned a corner. speaking to the chancellor the telegraph, the chancellor has vowed to show the country there is a path to reducing the tax burden. he is widely expected to slash inheritance and business tax and also reform the welfare system in an effort to win over tory mps and despite previously stating such a move
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would be virtually impossible this year, the chancellor says now is the time focus on now is the time to focus on growth . growth. >> best way that we can >> the best way that we can reduce the tax burden for everyone is to grow the economy. there's no shortcut if we grow the economy, if we support mass fracturing businesses like the one i'm visiting today in sheffield, and that means that we have more money to reduce the tax burden. but also to invest in public services like the nhs. so we will always take a balanced approach, but putting the economy first. >> during his visit to sheffield , the chancellor announced his spending plans will include £4.5 billion over five years to boost british manufacturing. almost half of that will go to carmakers with aerospace companies and clean energy firms. also benefiting from funding. there will be available from 2025 after the next general election . rishi sunak denied election. rishi sunak denied tinkering with the rwanda policy after his former home secretary suggested his plan to save the scheme would fail . scheme would fail. >> will the prime minister rescue the rwanda plan? mrs.

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