hello >> good evening. it's me, jacob rees—mogg on state of the nation tonight. now, all guns have been firing at boris johnson. that covid inquiry. but his instincts were right. he didn't want to lock you down, but he was surrounded by blob did surrounded by a blob that did so. goodness we had so. thank goodness we had somebody in favour of somebody who was in favour of liberty in charge. othennise, heaven how we'd have heaven knows how long we'd have been for. there's a been locked up for. there's a row the metropol police row with the metropol police after seen tearing after officers were seen tearing down israeli hostages down posters of israeli hostages being in gaza by hamas. being held in gaza by hamas. there have also been posters taken down in manchester, but our hero . stephen watson of our new hero. stephen watson of the manchester police, has actually said he may have made a mistake, which is really exciting. and unusual for any of the police ever to say they've done anything wrong. we're also going to be talking about the ulez numbers because the

motorist is out of pocket, 60,000 drivers a day are paying the ulez and that's money for old rope for transport for london, £750,000 a day from morally bankrupt. but financially prosperous scheme . financially prosperous scheme. oh, and it's halloween . the oh, and it's halloween. the institution known as one of the schmaltzy american ideas. but actually it has christian roots. we'll be looking at halloween with our favourite catholic corresponds father alexander state of the nation starts now . state of the nation starts now. i'll also be joined by an impassioned panel this evening, criminal barrister and former tory mp jerry hayes and the transcaucasia expert and former labour mp and friend of the programme, stephen pound. as always, to hear from always, i want to hear from you. it's crucial of the it's a crucial part of the programme. email me mailmogg@gbnews.com. but now it's time for the news of the day with tatiana sanchez .

day with tatiana sanchez. >> jacob, thank you very much and good evening. this is the latest boris johnson's former chief adviser has told the covid inquiry he warned of the nhs imploding like a zombie apocalypse film . a dominic apocalypse film. a dominic cummings says he called for daily crisis meetings fearing the pandemic was coming much faster than expected. he also said the government had no plan to help vulnerable people during lockdown and the cabinet office was trying to block the creation of a shielding plan. >> the cabinet office was a bombsite and many officials had come to me and said this is causing chaos. there has to be some formalised system to actually grip this because the cabinet office was a dumpster . fire >> israel's military says it was targeted . a very senior hamas targeted. a very senior hamas commander in an airstrike on the jabalya refugee camp that as it confirmed it did indeed hit the camp, which killed 50

palestinians. and left 150 injured. the director of a nearby hospital in the territory says a densely populated area in the north strip was targeted . the north strip was targeted. officials are now saying the opening of gaza's rafah border crossing tomorrow will allow for 81 severely wounded palestinians to be treated in egypt . xl bully to be treated in egypt. xl bully dogs will be banned at the end of this year from the 31st of december. it'll be illegal to breed sell or rehome or abandon an xl bully dog exist . doting an xl bully dog exist. doting owners will be required to follow a strict set of rules such as ensuring the dog is muzzled and on a lead . and muzzled and on a lead. and finally, king charles has delivered a speech at the state house in nairobi where he quoted from the late queen his mother's diary in that queen elizabeth ii said she didn't want to miss a moment of kenya's extraordinary landscape . king charles also landscape. king charles also thanked the people of kenya for their support for the late

queen. in 1952, when she became monarch, his majesty also acknowledged the more difficult times of britain and kenya's shared history, finishing with a touching toast . touching toast. >> it is upon the enduring connection between our people that our partnership rests as it is on their enterprise imagination , vision and imagination, vision and fortitude that our common hopes depend. fortitude that our common hopes depend . together, we are depend. together, we are stronger together for our future is more secure. and together . is more secure. and together. for as your national anthem says, may we dwell in unity , says, may we dwell in unity, peace and liberty . peace and liberty. >> this is gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on digital radio, and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news now it's back to . jacob

back to. jacob >> the covid inquiry is supporting evidence for what we already knew to be true. boris johnson's instincts on lockdown and covid policies were broadly right . every day that goes by right. every day that goes by his instincts vindicated. handwritten notes from imran shafi. then the prime minister's private secretary for public services , suggested that boris services, suggested that boris said , we're killing the patient said, we're killing the patient to tackle the tumour. and boris had a point. he was also right to want to pursue herd immunity as initial policy, which was actually what the experts were saying in the first place. they then tried to pretend they hadn't. but i sat in meetings where they said herd immunity is what we've got to get to. do you remember the sombrero, remember squash the sombrero, just bit. actually , just delay a bit. but actually, it's got to be herd immunity in the and criticism of the end. and the criticism of bofis the end. and the criticism of boris this period is his boris over this period is his indecisive ness. but if that's true, it's little wonder. surely you don't want a prime minister whose first instinct is to lock you all up. we don't live in a totalitarian country where we're not allowed our not allowed out of our front door permission, without door without permission, without

showing papers, without showing our papers, without being get chit from a being able to get a chit from a policeman. boris ended up locking us down because he was surrounded by a blob that was desperate to lock down. the desperate to lock us down. the epidemiology wokeist neil ferguson. remember the one. ferguson. you remember the one. the who had some lady friend the one who had some lady friend some the other who headed some way or the other who headed the imperial college covid response spoke to the covid response team spoke to the covid inquiry response team spoke to the covid iandea response team spoke to the covid inq|idea that he had called for the idea that he had called for a lockdown. >> do you feel that your you did confine yourself to the provision of scientific advice , provision of scientific advice, or did you become, despite your best endeavours irrevocably . be best endeavours irrevocably. be involved in the determination of policy ? policy? >> it's a difficult question to answer. i know i'm a associated very much with a particular policy, but as you will be aware from the evidence i've given and my statement and the statement of others, the reality was a lot more complex. >> but as spectator editor fraser nelson points out, while he may not have explicitly

called a lockdown , he did called for a lockdown, he did release report that claimed release a report that claimed a nothing short of a lockdown would serious difference would make a serious difference to b lockdown to the r number and b lockdown would shoot covid out of the sky. we were also being told as ministers that 500,000 people were die. so it was were going to die. so it was quite strong pressure from the experts. then there was experts. and then there was sage, scientific advisory sage, the scientific advisory group for emergencies . the group for emergencies. the modelling from sage was key to locking down when the rise of omicron began in late 2021. the sage modelling suggested that omicrons effect would be calamitous . it later emerged calamitous. it later emerged that the modelling only accounted for scenarios in which omicron was a more dangerous variant than its predecessor was. this, of course, turned out not to be true. it was bad, wrong modelling. it was a significantly weaker variant than its predecessors . and thank than its predecessors. and thank heavens we had boris who at that stage resisted the pressure to lock down. othennise our economy would have been damaged even more . we now know that the more. we now know that the scientific advisers were busy overegging the pudding, so scientific advisers were busy overegging the pudding , so when overegging the pudding, so when daryl nicola sturgeon you

remember her, the one who has those things, caravan things in her in lords gardens, introduced face masks in schools. england didn't. and sir chris whitty suggested it wasn't worth an argument. so in england we introduced pointless face masks purely to avoid a political fight because of slightly wet scientific advice. government sources who heard the conversations claimed that dominic cummings was pushing for even more extreme measures for lockdown controls , such as lockdown controls, such as increasing fines for lockdown breaches. so we have neil ferguson , sage whitty vallance ferguson, sage whitty vallance and cummings, the pro lockdown blob constituting boris's working environment. but we now know that their approach was wrong . a study last year from wrong. a study last year from johns hopkins suggested that covid lockdowns only saved 0.2% of deaths in the first wave. even professor mark woolhouse, a senior epidemic allergist who advised the government during the coronavirus pandemic, told the coronavirus pandemic, told the covid inquiry that national shutdowns were a failure of pubuc shutdowns were a failure of public health policy. but more

important, he sweden is the smoking gun. sweden did not lock down and it suffered 2365 covid deaths per million . meanwhile, deaths per million. meanwhile, we did lockdown and suffered 3416 covid deaths per million . 3416 covid deaths per million. and it's clear that boris believes in liberty and was reluctant , rightly reluctant to reluctant, rightly reluctant to lock us down. the failure was one of a blob, not of a leader who asks sensible questions . it who asks sensible questions. it is time for his critics to litigate it in shame. don't forget to let me know your thoughts via email at gbnews.com. and i'm joined now by the journalist, author, historian of a new book, boris johnson the rise and fall of a troublemaker at number 10. andrew johnson. andrew, you're the great expert on british prime ministers because you've also written a book from walpole all through to and i'm all the way through to and i'm not going to ask you to list them in order. that's good. christmas quiz . do you think christmas quiz. do you think bofis christmas quiz. do you think boris was doing what boris ought to have done? he was asking the questions and he was backing

liberty. does any of this surprise you? >> he was certainly asking the questions taken questions and he's never taken health seriously. he never health seriously. he he never wherever he was, he would never say, oh, jacob, you're not looking very well today. you must go home and lie down and not come back until you feel better. he he just didn't take health seriously. i discovered while writing book he while i was writing my book he wasn't register with a wasn't actually register with a gp, which quite unusual for gp, which is quite unusual for a for a prime minister or for anyone actually. >> so when fell ill with >> so when he fell ill with covid, he had no gp to come round and. >> no he didn't. no he didn't. nadine got worried nadine dorries got very worried because could see him. she because she could see him. she she was talking to him quite frequently she detected frequently and she, she detected she was a nurse, a trained as a nurse and detected a deterioration and, and spoke to the chief medical officer and said he needs to a doctor. said he needs to see a doctor. but he was denying this for quite a long time. >> so you saying that >> so are you saying that because in own because he's robust in his own health, he thought we'd all be fine? >> i think was his initial assumption and is one reason why to like like most to begin with, like like most

people in the health department and everywhere, he did not realise how serious this was going to be. but he did realise he he's very, very, as you know, very quick in the uptake. when he did realise, he realised that everyone has got to change their minds and he did. >> then lockdown and the lockdowns were enforced effectively without too draconian an measures and too many people being fined. and when ladies got fined for having a cup of coffee together, everyone thought that was too much and it stopped. he got the balance as right as anybody could, it all went could, didn't he? it all went well, of course . well, of course. >> in a sense it went very badly because he died. but at because he nearly died. but at that he the peak of that point he was at the peak of his popularity and he thanked the thanked the the nurses. he thanked the doctors, thanked the nhs, and doctors, he thanked the nhs, and he said actually he took the opportunity to say that it is such a thing as society. so showing that the tories are not not a lot of heartless people who of course a much misinterpreted remark, a much misinterpreted. >> i'm rather surprised time

no. >> but he lost and he was people people thought he struck exactly the right note. and then came the right note. and then came the barnard castle thing with cummings loyal to cummings and he was loyal to cummings and he was loyal to cummings, out to be a cummings, who turns out to be a fanatic for lockdowns and really wanted to control everything. cummings also very, very cummings was also very, very rude to tory mps. in cummings was also very, very rude to tory mps . in fact, any rude to tory mps. in fact, any mps . rude to tory mps. in fact, any mp5 . i rude to tory mps. in fact, any mps . i mean, he's an mps. i mean, he's an unparliamentary person . one of unparliamentary person. one of his heroes is bismarck and bismarck. he quoted bismarck with approval. he said bismarck said that polity six is gambling for stakes with other for high stakes with other people's money and, you know, it's an attitude which actually from the general election onwards , caused a great deal of onwards, caused a great deal of trouble for boris johnson because he went out. he would cross the road to have a fight with people who were essentially on his the prime minister's side. >> so when you look at the evidence come today evidence that's come out today and had cummings and and you've had cummings and you've kane and they're you've had lee kane and they're intending to damage boris johnson, aren't they ? but johnson, aren't they? but actually, i think it's they're the ones who look as if they were rather fanatics and

were really rather fanatics and rather extreme and that boris was taking and absorbing information which then information on, which was then implemented . implemented. >> on an earlier >> cummings on an earlier occasion , gave evidence for occasion, gave evidence for seven to a commons seven hours to a commons committee about this. i think , committee about this. i think, you know, it's no secret that he wished to topple boris johnson . wished to topple boris johnson. he absolutely did everything he could. so and he didn't like me know people already, people knew before today what his and that he didn't like matt hancock . before today what his and that he didn't like matt hancock. but i think he was ever so faintly critical of matt hancock. >> hancock in his usual >> matt hancock in his usual way, understating as much as possible, but but in his evidence, house commons select committee , he said he had committee, he said he had evidence that hancock had lied, which he then never produced. did he? or have i forgotten this mysterious evidence? >> i don't think the evidence even >> i don't think the evidence ever, brought. >> i don't think the evidence ever, he brought. >> i don't think the evidence ever, he promisesght. >> i don't think the evidence ever, he promises these great >> so he promises these great things then don't things and then they don't actually always emerge. >> no. >> no. >> the e. >> no. >> the my worry >> and the inquiry, my worry about the inquiry is that it's determined to find that lockdown should have been tougher , should have been tougher, whereas lots of whereas actually lots of countries that had lesser

lockdowns, particularly sweden, did better for you. >> i suppose you've been asked yet to appear before. well, i wouldn't . wouldn't. >> i was leader of the house. i didn't. and this is one thing cummings said. that's true. the cabinet was purely set monial dunng cabinet was purely set monial during period. during this period. >> yes . well, the cabinet is >> yes. well, the cabinet is ludicrously big, isn't it? >> and the cabinet is becoming like the privy council. it just formally agrees to things without having any real discussion or power. >> yes, there's budget had this this distinction, he, this distinction, didn't he, between and the between the dignified and the efficient part of the and the cabinet is in the process of moving from being efficient to being dignified. >> yes. and he was all in some ways, we almost have a distinction now between the undignified part of the constitution and the inefficient bit , because i constitution and the inefficient bit, because i think that is an important thing, which cummings is right about, that the actual machine was in a pitiful, pitifully unprepared state. one of the one of the most unimpressive meetings i had as a minister was with the civil

contingencies secretariat. yes. who didn't seem to know anything . i wondered why on earth they'd been they didn't even been doing. they didn't even know how civil contingencies know how the civil contingencies act was relevant act worked, which was relevant to a parliamentary to me as a parliamentary business manager as to whether we new legislation or we needed new legislation or could an old act. they could use an old act. they didn't seem much of a didn't seem to have much of a clue about what the act did in the place, which wasn't the first place, which wasn't very helpful. i'm there very helpful. so i'm sure there are some valid criticisms, but it's ones of boris it's the ones of boris that i think are overdone. they're basically done by people who didn't of the didn't approve of him in the first place. didn't fit in first place. he didn't fit in neatly with their view what a neatly with their view of what a prime minister be like. prime minister should be like. they too grand to be they were far too grand to be asked just asked questions they just expected accept expected politicians to accept their yes, and that their wise advice. yes, and that in truth, boris was asking the right questions that any sensible, intelligent person would have asked . would have asked. >> yes, it's a terrible the worst thing is to get locked into the wrong orthodoxy. and he certainly didn't do that. >> and there was considerable groupthink which didn't want to be challenged full of fear and panic. >> and i mean, in the wider country as well as in in number

10. so yeah. and nobody was concerned about the economy . concerned about the economy. >> no. the price we're paying now because shutting down the economy also, no one was really properly concerned about people with all sorts of other terrible medical conditions . medical conditions. >> didn't get looked after . >> you didn't get looked after. >> you didn't get looked after. >> and isn't this interesting that was asking those that boris was asking those questions i don't questions and saying, i don't think will get think the nhs will get ovennhelmed? i think this is propaganda and that turned out to yeah. so to be true. yeah yeah. so i mean, you've been the chronicler of boris's biography for over many years. yes. is this another stage in a great career? and he comes bounding back as our hero . comes bounding back as our hero. >> he has he has joined the glittering team of gb news or is about to do so . and this about to do so. and this obviously is a real well, this is a great coup. >> great coup for him. yes him and for us. i think . and for us. i think. >> and i think he'll he'll do very interesting things about foreign affairs and foreign affairs. are there a lifelong study? they're incredibly complicated . but he has spent complicated. but he has spent three years as foreign secretary and two years, two years as foreign secretary, three years as prime minister. he has five

years experience of foreign affairs the highest level. he affairs at the highest level. he actually knows, lot of actually knows, knows a lot of people and has been lot of people and has been to a lot of places and is not. and so when unexpected things happen , i unexpected things happen, i mean, he saw very mean, ukraine, he saw very clearly there clearly what was happening there . he obviously has very interesting things to say about the horrors in the holy land. these programs will be serious programs, and i think he'll get good people on who will have and he ask them penetrating he will ask them penetrating questions . so i think it will it questions. so i think it will it will throw the whole thing fonnard, which which people fonnard, which which most people can't can can't do. they can attitudinising or moralise about the terrible events in the latest terrible events in gaza , but they can't actually gaza, but they can't actually sort of get a grip on the politics of it and so on. and i think he i think he'll surprise his critics by being more serious than they expect. they think he's going to be frivolous. of course, he's not going he's going to be frivolous. he's going to be frivolous. he's going that he's serious going to show that he's serious and he deep understanding and he has deep understanding from years and from from his five years and from knowing the who are knowing all the people who are involved knowing involved and knowing them. >> exactly. yeah. >> well. yeah, exactly. yeah. well, andrew, well, brilliant. andrew, thank you andrew has lots you very much. andrew has lots of good books that are available

in proper bookstores, and in all proper bookstores, and he's also standing election he's also standing for election to national at the end to the national trust at the end of the of this week. he's on the restore slate . there are restore trust slate. there are other standing you can other people standing you can look him on the internet, but look him up on the internet, but i think andrew is a thoroughly good you. don't good egg. thank you. don't forget your forget to let me know your thoughts. mailmogg@gbnews.com coming metropolitan coming up next, the metropolitan police woes continue as some of its officers are filmed taking down posters of israeli hostages in edgware . after equivocating in edgware. after equivocating over the meaning of jihad . and over the meaning of jihad. and don't we are exhibiting don't forget, we are exhibiting state of the nation's first ever halloween pumpkin pin as a teaser for your screens teaser for you on your screens now. perfect pumpkins parading .

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monologue. said monologue. i think all you said was thank it's all was correct. thank god it's all over well done, boris and over and well done, boris and margaret. believe that prime margaret. i believe that prime minister was in minister johnson was not in favour but did favour of lockdowns, but he did lock and is ultimately lock down and he is ultimately responsible for the effects. i think harsh, margaret. think that's harsh, margaret. i think that's harsh, margaret. i think that's harsh, margaret. i think that if all your official advice telling do advice is telling you to do something, difficult something, it's very difficult to go against it anyway. it was ten days ago when the metropolitan police released a slightly troubling statement that equivocated over the meaning jihad. this meaning of the word jihad. this was light of a rally held in was in light of a rally held in central london by known islamist group hezbollah to hear which called jihad and for muslim called for jihad and for muslim armies to intervene in israel. well, a particularly well, it wasn't a particularly good look for the police, especially considering lord anderson of the anderson told state of the nafion anderson told state of the nation that the police have the powers the problem. powers to deal with the problem. but in a decision that has echoed the disturbing scenes of anti—semites down anti—semites tearing down posters israeli hostages in posters of israeli hostages in hamas captivity across the country , metropolitan police country, metropolitan police officers have been filmed tearing down the same posters themselves edgware in north themselves in edgware in north london, the met julie responded with an explanation, stating that it was a matter of de—escalation between two

parties. and i appreciate the difficult the met difficult position. the met finds itself this is a finds itself in as this is a civil matter, not a criminal. one ought the police to have been involved? well, also been involved? well, it's also happenedin been involved? well, it's also happened in greater manchester. the highly respected chief constable, stephen watson has admitted they got it wrong , but admitted they got it wrong, but there was no malicious intent. now mr watson, if you're listening, that is so refreshing and amazing because the police never apologised and say we made a mistake. and when that happens it makes everyone recognise you've got a fiendishly difficult job and that you're doing the best you possibly can. and then inevitably occasional mistakes will be made . say thank mistakes will be made. say thank you to chief constable watson, who has been restoring confidence in the police in manchester. i isn't that unusual. you're a criminal barrister, you must. >> it is unusual. and the mpc in london appalling, allowing >> it is unusual. and the mpc in london appalling , allowing these london appalling, allowing these things to happen . you've got things to happen. you've got hundred thousand demonstrators now, not all of them want to kill the jews , but there are a

kill the jews, but there are a few who do. why haven't they been arrested , kid? been arrested, kid? >> yeah, well , this is >> yeah, well, this is de—escalation, jacob. >> it's one sided de—escalation because it seems on the one hand, the police are saying that posters calling for the release of the hostages are offensive. >> on the other hand, posters calling for the destruction of the genocide of the jewish people are not offensive. i'm sorry there's balance sorry that there's no balance there the police there whatsoever. the police have good signs have actually the two good signs is actually started is they have actually started lifting a few people this. lifting a few people for this. but nonsense does but this nonsense about does jihad internal struggle but this nonsense about does jihwhich internal struggle but this nonsense about does jihwhich you internal struggle but this nonsense about does jihwhich you know, 'nal struggle but this nonsense about does jihwhich you know, you struggle but this nonsense about does jihwhich you know, you havejle but this nonsense about does jihwhich you know, you have an in which you know, you have an internal crusade? i mean, that's we know exactly what it we all know exactly what it means. now, you can't arrest 100,000 people. i mean, i think that would be ludicrous. but the most and for most egregious examples and for me, the where people should me, the one where people should be collars felt be getting their collars felt without compunction without a second compunction is the abusing war the people who are abusing war memorials, are standing memorials, who are standing around are around war memorials, who are standing a cenotaph standing on a cenotaph representing the selfless sacrifice of men and women in this country and actually bringing their own foul, genocidal, ghastly death cult to it. and just as we come up to >> and just as we come up to armistice day as well, gerry has

you're a criminal barrister. and so , you know the law. isn't so, you know the law. isn't there a specific law that makes it illegal to a whole number of laws under the public law public order act? >> firstly , breach of the peace . >> firstly, breach of the peace. but the most important one of all for inciting against racial or religious hatred. now, if people say, oh, we're demonstrate hating for palestine to be free, that's fair enough . to be free, that's fair enough. but if they're saying the jews should be killed, if they're wearing those little things saying, you know , those exactly . saying, you know, those exactly. we know that that is wrong. >> but isn't stephen pan's point a really good one, that they're deescalating on one side and that's a real problem with what the met were shown doing yesterday . yesterday. >> i'm really horrified. >> i'm just really horrified. and if i was well, i'm sort of a quarter jewish actually. yeah yeah, yeah . are jews safe in yeah, yeah. are jews safe in this country? can i say or can

you say as a politician , you you say as a politician, you jews are safe ? the answer is we jews are safe? the answer is we can say no . because i know we've can say no. because i know we've discussed this on many times on this program . but the fact of this program. but the fact of the matter is, jewish schools have had guards for years . have had guards for years. jewish synagogues have had guards for years now . they are guards for years now. they are being targeted a little child going to school will be targeted i >> and i was to talking lee anderson last week and with a couple of jewish people who felt that had victimised. and one of them said, i don't feel safe in this country. so i said, well, where would you feel safe? hoping he would say, somewhere like which has no like ireland, which has no history anti—semitism, where history of anti—semitism, where there are synagogues no there are synagogues and no demonstrations. the demonstrations. but he said the only feel safe is only place i'd feel safe is israel. i said, well, you israel. and i said, well, you know, can you unpack that for me? i realised he was me? and i realised what he was talking actually talking about was not actually physical safety, but it was actually emotional, psychological. >> goes than that. >> but it goes worse than that. you had 100,000 or so people taking to the streets . a lot of

taking to the streets. a lot of them were just in favour of freeing palestine . a lot of them freeing palestine. a lot of them wanted to destroy the jews , to wanted to destroy the jews, to kill the jews . what's happened kill the jews. what's happened to our wonderful, sleepy, decent country ? well, i'm sorry, that's country? well, i'm sorry, that's scary. and they're going to be pubuc scary. and they're going to be public order problems. they there are going to be they're going to be public order. >> and ivanhoe, you know, we've been anti—semitic since the 11th century. >> no, no, we have terrible not i'm sorry. >> we have not we have in >> we have not we have not in this country. >> yes, we have. not now. now? >> no. well, i not now enough. and what really infuriates tolerant country and not since the middle ages. yeah. no, no, exactly. the market talked about what present on that march were the on the body politic, the lice on the body politic, the lice on the body politic, the socialist the the socialist workers, the party, revolutionary the socialist workers, the party, rnparty ionary the socialist workers, the party, rnparty setting up communist party setting up stalls, selling their newspapers. you look stalls, selling their netheapers. you look stalls, selling their nethe photographs you look stalls, selling their nethe photographs of you look stalls, selling their nethe photographs of theou look at the photographs of the demonstrators, look at the number posters that may say number of posters that may say from the river to sea. but from the river to the sea. but actually top it says actually at the top it says socialist workers party. i'm sorry. these are who are sorry. these are people who are leeching which is leeching onto something which is

beyond genuinely emotion beyond genuinely felt emotion with they with some people and they are actually blood and actually sucking the blood and come the police. come back to the police. >> is difficult, but don't >> it is difficult, but don't you think the manchester policeman has got it right that if something that is difficult has you apologise, has got wrong and you apologise, you appear stronger rather than weaker . and that if the met you appear stronger rather than weaker. and that if the met had given that sort of response, it would have done them a favour. >> you'll have to apologise. and the longer that you deny it, the worse it comes. how can you have metropolitan police officers ripping off posters of children who have been kidnapped? >> well, particularly as it's not their job that since when have the police gone round clearing up graffiti? that is not what they do. they don't take down posters . no. take down posters. no. >> i've seen some awful stuff in tower hamlets and some dreadful stuff i've seen in newham. we know i've seen this poster carry on killing, which is a sort of a pastiche poster, which is just foul. you i actually foul. and, you know, i actually took myself because it took one down myself because it was stuck an was actually stuck outside an empty yeah. just off empty shop. yeah, yeah. just off the end road. and you know,

the mile end road. and you know, i think the police are going i think if the police are going to take down one lot, need i think if the police are going to take outvn one lot, need i think if the police are going to take out takee lot, need i think if the police are going to take out take down need i think if the police are going to take out take down the need i think if the police are going to take out take down the other to take out take down the other to be absolutely right. >> thank you panel. >> well, thank you to my panel. coming up next, the ulez numbers are in and you lose. but even with sort money, is with this sort of money, tfl is still mess. plus, still a financial mess. plus, don't are the pumpkin is don't forget, are the pumpkin is you're going to be seeing lots more of these pumpkins in a moment.

gb news radio. >> welcome back. our man jacob rees—mogg. and you're getting in touch with your thoughts . ewen, touch with your thoughts. ewen, completely agree with you on the posters, but most importantly , posters, but most importantly, it's not the police's job. and chris, we're meant to protect people, not harm them. so our friends at transport for london have published a report on the effect of the first month of the expanded ulez zone figures taken from the 29th august until from the 29th of august until the 30th of september. this year show that 93,700 vehicles failed to comply with emissions standards, although 36% of that

figure were exempt . this left figure were exempt. this left the remaining 60,000 motorists being hit daily with the £12.50 charge for entering the ultra low emission zone a useful £750,000 a day for tfl or nearly £275 million per annum. this report also revealed that 48,000 fewer vehicles were entering the capital daily compared to june this year , with compliance rates this year, with compliance rates rising with 96.4% of cars and 86.2% of vans meeting ulez standards now, well defend king, his brainchild, the mayor of london, sadiq khan, has said that these figures show that the expanded ulez zone is already working and will make a huge difference to the lives and health londoners. if you health of londoners. if you believe believe believe that, you believe anything the anything anyway, the conservative quite conservative party have quite rightly a tax rightly called the scheme a tax grab. well, i've still got my brilliant panel with me. i think i've to introduce last time. i've got to introduce last time. but them well but you know them so well now. they're friends. jerry hayes they're old friends. jerry hayes and pound. stephen are and stephen pound. stephen are you going to defend your socialist brethren this socialist brethren for this dreadful charge ? dreadful ulez charge?

>> it's rather interesting >> think it's rather interesting in it is in the paper today it is revealed to the public that the mayor spent £24,000 mayor of london spent £24,000 advertising his free meal service, which he's giving to people which that £24,000 would have provided about 90,000 free meals. >> are going to answer the >> are you going to answer the question then? >> course i'm not. i'm >> no, of course i'm not. i'm a politician. look, look , politician. no, look, look, jacob, on the record as jacob, i'm on the record as saying before. think ulez saying this before. i think ulez works london. think works in central london. i think it i think central it really does. i think central london was an appalling state. and i think just as much as we all objected, if you remember when congestion charge came when the congestion charge came in, live with it. the in, we came to live with it. the problem ulez as we problem with ulez is, as we found in hillingdon and found out in hillingdon and where from in ealing, in the where i'm from in ealing, in the outer bexley, barnet, outer boroughs, bexley, barnet, places it's simply is places like that, it's simply is not appropriate. and if it is appropriate, was rushed appropriate, it was rushed through sufficient through and without sufficient thought to thought being given to compensation for and for people like my son who's an electrician, who has to give up his van and change it over so that that a problem. that that was a problem. >> but you see people all >> yes. but you see people all ornery people who can't afford to pay for their own brand new cars, have to have second hand

cars, have to have second hand cars . so cars, have to have second hand cars. so you're cars, have to have second hand cars . so you're clobbering them, cars. so you're clobbering them, aren't you? not you personally, but khan is, isn't he ? but khan is, isn't he? >> well, i think that's the real difficulty is we didn't give sufficient thought to those people who absolutely have to have a car. there's no water. you know, i'm talking about district nurses, midwives, people that. and, you know, people like that. and, you know, so disaster, isn't it? so it's a disaster, isn't it? it's not a disaster. it's the idea is sound. the application and the way was and the and the way it was actually introduced. >> a taxation on the >> but it's a taxation on the poon >> it's a taxation on the poor. >> it's a taxation on the poor. >> it's a taxation on the poor. >> it's not very successful >> it's not a very successful one because if you actually have a look tfl figures, i a look at the tfl figures, i mean they are still massively, massively in the principle. >> taxation on the >> yes, it's a taxation on the poon >> yes, it's a taxation on the poor. yeah. >> no isn't. i don't, i don't >> no it isn't. i don't, i don't see it that way. >> well mean white van man. >> well i mean white van man. >> well i mean white van man. >> well i mean white van man. >> well look, hang on a second. most of the polluting ulez most of the polluting non ulez vehicles great off vehicles are massive. great off roaders. fours. yeah, roaders. four by fours. yeah, but. you know, by and large, but. and you know, by and large, never mind about people who work in never mind in kwik—fit don't, never mind about people who drive in kwik—fit don't, never mind about yeah people who drive in kwik—fit don't, never mind about yeah yeah.eople who drive them. yeah yeah. >> those new ones are all >> but those new ones are all compliant plumbers. yeah, that's right. >> the builders who can't afford

brand they're going to brand new vans, they're going to be done. they're going to be stuffed, aren't they? >> look, there has to be a proper scheme to actually accommodate that group of people. >> isn't one, is there? >> well, i'm sorry, there isn't one, the terrible one, but that's the terrible mistake. that's what danny mistake. and that's what danny bars, the labour bars, who was the labour candidate in the uxbridge candidate in in the uxbridge by—election, that point. yes. but this is one of your >> yes. but this is one of your candidates. it's not your candidates. it's not your candidate your man who's candidate is your man who's doing but actually he's yours. >> the mayor of all london >> he's the mayor of all london at something. >> know what i mean. >> well, you know what i mean. >> well, you know what i mean. >> well, you know what i mean. >> well, don't this is >> well, don't forget, this is bofis >> well, don't forget, this is boris johnson's idea. boris johnson. no, no, no. >> leap. >> it was such a leap. >> it was such a leap. >> who introduced ulez ? >> who introduced ulez? >> who introduced ulez? >> mayor in central london. >> its mayor in central london. in central london. >> and then grant shapps, the transport secretary said it needs to be extended and rolled out. >> but you've just us you >> but you've just told us you think wrong . you've just think it's wrong. you've just talked to the mayor london. talked to the mayor of london. >> could have stopped >> the mayor could have stopped it. going could have it. it's going to could have stopped it. and four people and he's 20 mile he's doing it with these 20 mile an limits, which make an hour limits, which make missions anyway, missions worse anyway, because the your engine is the lower speed your engine is working legislate working so efficient, legislate for westminster, if

for that in westminster, if there's going to be any local government autonomy whatsoever, there's going to be any local govt sort ent autonomy whatsoever, there's going to be any local govt sort oft autonomy whatsoever, there's going to be any local govt sort oft auto democracy, soever, there's going to be any local govt sort oft auto democracy, you er, any sort of local democracy, you have a council to have have to allow a council to have a 20 hour ltn well, we a 20 mile an hour ltn well, we never used to actually 20 mile an limits idea. an hour limits are a new idea. a very bad one. they were brought in by the coalition government because of lib dems. no, no, because of the lib dems. no, no, we to 30 miles an we should go back to 30 miles an hour the default limit. i'm sorry. >> we've had one way streets and no entry streets. you know, ever since i first driving a bike though. >> so do you support khan's policy on ulez? >> the majority of >> i support the majority of mayor policies. mayor khan's policies. >> so the answer is no. in many cases. he has some excellent ideas >> he has some excellent ideas in particular case, it's in this particular case, it's too soon, too fast, too much, too soon, too fast, and effective. and not very effective. >> it's not too fast. it's too slow because we're all pootling about at 20 miles an hour in where from, dream of 20 where i'm from, we dream of 20 miles 20 miles hour. miles an hour, 20 miles an hour. >> you it's almost >> you know, it's almost breathless. i'd love to go 20 miles an chance. but miles an hour chance. but jerry's point is surely the key one, that it's actually a tax on the the striving, the the poor and the striving, the people who are their first people who are in their first job in a less well paid job job or in a less well paid job or unsocial hours job. job or in a less well paid job or somsocial hours job. job or in a less well paid job or so they're hours job. job or in a less well paid job or so they're theirs job. job or in a less well paid job or so they're the men. job or in a less well paid job

or so they're the ones who >> so they're the ones who really get by this. really get hit by this. >> well, you know, and that should have built into it, >> well, you know, and that sh0|it:i have built into it, >> well, you know, and that sh0|it hasn't built into it, >> well, you know, and that sh0|it hasn't been.juilt into it, but it hasn't been. >> well, no, it should have been. yeah, not. that's been. yeah, but it's not. that's the point. >> what going to do, >> what are we going to do, stephen? it's your responsible party because you're representing labour party. party because you're rep yeah,ing labour party. party because you're rep yeah, i g labour party. party because you're rep yeah, i am labour party. party because you're rep yeah, i am indeed. r party. >> yeah, i am indeed. >> yeah, i am indeed. >> you've got red tie on. yes >> you've got a red tie on. yes sir, i actually. sir, i am, actually. all socialist correspondent. yeah yeah. >> but i mean, surely anyone agrees that we have a problem with air pollution in london. nobody now says we should go back to having lead in petrol. and yet when they took lead out of petrol in london, people said, that's infringement. said, oh that's an infringement. nobody ride nobody now says no to ride a motorbike crash motorbike without a crash helmet. you should helmet. nobody says you should actually a car without safety. >> we accept all of this. >> we accept all of this. >> well, okay, what's the difference? well the difference initially inconvenient difference who initially inconvenient diff struggling, who initially inconvenient diffstruggling, who who initially inconvenient diffstruggling, who are who initially inconvenient diffstruggling, who are working, are struggling, who are working, who have got their who who have got their vans, who have cars, who can't have got their cars, who can't afford barristers. >> well , never mind about >> yeah, well, never mind about starving barristers. the fact is, is hitting them. you is, it is hitting them. you agree with that , jerry? agree with that, jerry? >> you do the assumption that the poor do drive know the ford

fiesta is 25 years old, is a bit i >> no, it's 16 years. we're worried about. >> yeah, i know. well, it's hitting people who can't. >> there we go. >> there we go. >> ford well, well , they don't >> ford well, well, they don't come back to this. in other news, our sovereign lord, the king, began a four day visit to kenya and was met by kenya today. and was met by william ruto. the president of kenya state house in the kenya at the state house in the capital. there have, however, been trip been concerns about the trip being overshadowed calls for being overshadowed by calls for his apologise for the his majesty to apologise for the british legacy as british colonial legacy as recently as last year, kenyan lawyer wrote to the then duke of cambridge, now prince wales, cambridge, now prince of wales, demanding for the demanding an apology for the atrocities committed the atrocities committed by the british during the 1950s against the mau mau uprising. ing a lawyer who represents of lawyer who represents some of the the mail on the claimants, told the mail on sunday that want his majesty sunday that we want his majesty to an apology and organise to offer an apology and organise some form financial some form of financial reparations compensation. reparations and compensation. however for the british government did pay out £20 million to victims. a decade ago.the million to victims. a decade ago. the king addressed this matter earlier today, saying we must also acknowledge the more painful times of our long and

complex relationship . the complex relationship. the wrongdoings the past are wrongdoings of the past are a cause of the greatest sorrow and greatest regret. well, i'm now joined by the historian and author of colonialism, a moral reckoning. nigel bigger. nigel, thank you for joining reckoning. nigel bigger. nigel, thank you forjoining me. is it even faintly right that we should apologise or do you think the mau mau might apologise for the mau mau might apologise for the people they murdered brutally and cruelly in a way that hamas kills people ? that hamas kills people? >> yes , jacob, i think the king >> yes, jacob, i think the king has it right . >> yes, jacob, i think the king has it right. i think lamenting wrongdoing and abuse and violence is right. wrongdoing and abuse and violence is right . apology wrongdoing and abuse and violence is right. apology is not. um, because as with with many of these demands for reparation , it's the situation reparation, it's the situation was not one of colonial oppressor versus african oppressed . most africans did not oppressed. most africans did not support rebellion . as many support rebellion. as many kikuyu fought with the british

as against as against the british. and you're right, the mau mau rebellion began with appalling atrocities, including the disembowelling and decapitation of children. white and black. um so. and in addition , one might get the addition, one might get the impression from these demands that the british simply swept abuses under the carpet. they didn't . they corrected the didn't. they corrected the abuses. um by the kenya african rifles and the settlers cases brought against the police for brutality in the first 18 months. those that were tried, 81% resulted in conviction. jones and then the famous the infamous case of the of . the 11 infamous case of the of. the 11 detainees was beaten to death in the holac camp by african warders. that was held to account by the westminster parliament. so the british empire had means of correcting abuses that , for example, abuses that, for example, contemporary zimbabwe lacks. and so i think , no, an apology is

so i think, no, an apology is not correct . a common lament for not correct. a common lament for the violence and mistakes and abuses of the past is, is right. >> and this is very important because what you're actually saying is that an uprising began. and yes, some things were done incorrectly, but those were actually held to account quite properly at the time rather than looking at it 60 or 70 years on and trying to put things right retrospectively, there was a proper functioning of the rule of law at that time . of law at that time. >> that's that's exactly the point. jacob and for sure, the, the holding to account of those who committed abuses was not perfect. some people got away with it who shouldn't have done. but the idea that the british simply ignored these abuses back in the 1950s is simply wrong . in the 1950s is simply wrong. um, the colonial government and the westminster parliament held

the westminster parliament held the colonial authorities to account and the atrocities of the mau mau were on an extraordinary scale and were made only against their own people who they thought were disloyal. >> and they made them take an oath to the mau mau because they were supporting the british. so your highest risk of being killed was if you were actually african rather than if you were british? >> yeah, for sure . this was >> yeah, for sure. this was a civil war. yes, there was a civil war. yes, there was a civil war. yes, there was a civil war. this wasn't a war of independence. it was a civil war, mainly between africans and as we know, when one side commits atrocities , it enrages commits atrocities, it enrages the other side were then more inclined to brutal atrocities . inclined to brutal atrocities. >> well, thank you very much , >> well, thank you very much, professor biggar. coming up next, we'll be diving into the history. you didn't even know about halloween . and we will be about halloween. and we will be having our pumpkin exhibition and we'll have an expert priest to tell us all about it .

welcome back. i continue to identify as jacob rees—mogg, and you've been getting in touch with your mail. mogs robert , with your mail. mogs robert, what is all this money khan is getting from his ulez tax being spent on? he could buy a better metropolitan service metropolitan police service and ian stephen powis not quite my flavour of politics, but i do like his turn of phrase sometimes and on this point i agree with him. he's one of the old school intelligent, fairly intellectual the intellectual socialists of the type we spar and type with whom we can spar and go caw, caw in a good way. hence a great choice for your show. well, ian, thank you very much. i agree with you, stephen is a thoroughly good egg. all hallows eve , a holiday known globally eve, a holiday known globally for trick or treating, fancy dress pumpkin carving, apple bobbing, haunted houses, but also for its religious ties, what many perceive as a secular capitalist holiday might not be

aware of the origins of halloween. halloween on the eve of all saints day, the 31st of october. it marks the time of year dedicated to remembering the dead. and although some argue it began with a pagan festival that marked the end of the summer and harvest and the start of the colder winter times, begins. its times, it really begins. its history begins with papacy. history begins with the papacy. the martyrs blood is the seed of faith. so in the eighth century, pope gregory, the third designated the 1st of november as the date to honour all saints, particularly martyrs. and was a feast extended to and it was a feast extended to the whole church by gregory the fourth with the eve of the feast of all saints being marked on what became known as halloween. now england, was now in england, this was abolished first by elizabeth, first as praying for the souls of the departed was banned and it then re—emerged later in north america. and this saw some of the old traditions develop so that the pre—reformation practise when people would bake and share soul cakes, became trick or treating . initially,

trick or treating. initially, the soul cakes were sold to encourage prayers for the dead. so you would give a cake and you'd get a prayer. but this turned in, as i say, to trick or treating or carving pumpkins and using candlelight carved pumpkins or turnips very pumpkins or turnips are very popular scotland . to have popular in scotland. to have turnips without a scare off evil spirits. and in the 19th century, in europe, candles were used lights to guide the used as sole lights to guide the souls to their earthly souls back to their earthly homes as well. joining me now is father sherbrooke. father alexander sherbrooke. father alexander sherbrooke. father it's very interesting, isn't it , father it's very interesting, isn't it, that halloween, which seems all to be about sweets and pumpkins , is in fact about pumpkins, is in fact about something really very important . something really very important. it's about praying for souls and helping souls go from purgatory and heaven indeed . and heaven indeed. >> and you have to understand the etymology of hallows. it means literally all saints and all halloween is the eve of all saints. so tomorrow's one of a greatest feast days. a solemnity in our in in our year. and we prepare for it by, in a sense,

anticipating the way that you would prepare for a party, that you would dress appropriately and get you know, get involved in the kitchen or whatever . and in the kitchen or whatever. and then we celebrate the great feast of all saints and then the next day, the mood changes and then we pray for those who are dead. but what i think you have to understand is that mediaeval england all hallow tide was like the great triduum of holy week, of holy thursday, good friday, holy saturday. and that the world would stop to commemorate the saints , to pray for the dead the saints, to pray for the dead , and also to pray that we would not be condemned to eternal punishment. >> and it had a full octave. i think it was six to the fourth who gave it an octave, which was then taken away at the reformation at the time of the second vatican council. and so it was huge celebration . i it was a huge celebration. i like idea of the soul cakes like this idea of the soul cakes so that would be baked

so that they would be baked quite hot buns with a quite like hot cross buns with a sign of the cross on them. yes. and you would give them to a child who came knocking at your door and the child would then say a prayer for the of say a prayer for the soul of a member of your family or somebody. you were particularly attached yes. so i mean, >> yes, yes, yes. so i mean, there kindness. there was there was kindness. there was children a it children involved. it was a it was a celebration a family. was a celebration of a family. and one of my abiding and of course, one of my abiding memories as a student in memories was as a student in rome, a seminarian. we would go to the great cemetery on the 2nd of november, and the italians would come and they would scrub the tombs stone and out the tombs stone and put out flowers . and then the tablecloth flowers. and then the tablecloth would come and the meats and the cheese. and we would celebrate. or they would celebrate a feast with those who had died . and with those who had died. and that great sense of communion with the saints, which, of course, is something which was taken out of our narrative by by today. ironically as reformation day, which got rid of all those praying for the dead, you know, it was not allowed . it was not

it was not allowed. it was not allowed. >> it's banned by elizabeth the first and then halloween re—emerges. but in a much more more secular form . but some of more secular form. but some of it does nonetheless retain its ancient roots, doesn't it, that when all saints day was being celebrated in a catholic pre—reformation sense , there was pre—reformation sense, there was still some superstition attached to halloween that there were people still thinking about spirits and so on because in that age, people believed in demons as well as in holy angels i >> -- >> yes. and there was this rather macabre death dance . rather macabre death dance. where people would be portrayed dancing with skeletons to remind them whether they were popes or bishops or kings or queens, that they were going to die. and so there was a sort of immediacy about death, which many ways we have lost and we have forgotten that we die. we don't know how to deal with death . whereas that to deal with death. whereas that halloween, the praying for the dead and all saints was so much

part of a narrative of every person's lives and part of a complete understanding of life, of eternity and being part of that. >> and the understanding, of course, that we are all part of the communion of saints. we're not the ones in heaven, but we are part of that wider community. well, that's a beautiful distinction between these three days. >> you the church militant, >> you have the church militant, which is you and me, trying to proclaim faith a world proclaim the faith in a world today, the church suffering , the today, the church suffering, the church in purgatory, all souls . church in purgatory, all souls. and then the church triumphant, which is all saints. so in these three days, you have a beautiful almost sympathy symmetry of a christian life and totally lost, really, except tomorrow will still be a holy day of obligation. >> and your church in soho square will, i hope, be reasonably full. we have mass at eight, 1245 and six, and the next day, of course, the great privilege of priests is that they're allowed to celebrate mass three times on all souls day one for the dead, one for

their own intentions, and one for the church . and during the for the church. and during the course of november, if you go to a churchyard and pray for the souls of the dead , you speed souls of the dead, you speed their way out of purgatory. >> you receive or you can celebrate a plenary indulgence. yes. >> yes. well, excellent , father, >> yes. well, excellent, father, thank you very much. i think it's fair to say that catholics can enjoy trick or treating without feeling they've got to get confession tomorrow. >> they are. you've got official almost papal approval. thank you, father. that's all from me. up you, father. that's all from me. up next, it's mark dolan. mark, what is on your of fare tonight? >> well, brilliant show, jacob. we'll up the baton at nine. we'll pick up the baton at nine. when it comes to the pandemic, was boris johnson right after all, have followed his all, should he have followed his instincts? my reaction to the right royal stitch up, which is the inquiry and an the ongoing covid inquiry and an x rated contribution from dominic cummings plus should king charles apologise for britain's crimes of the past and our young people? the biggest ego eco hypocrites of all? we'll discuss that. a very busy show .

discuss that. a very busy show. we are live from nine. well, that's to going be extremely interesting. >> fascinating that dominic cummings seemed completely unable to complete a sentence without having an expletive in it. makes richard look it. he makes richard nixon look polite . polite. >> it was it was a very outrageous x—rated performance. and we'll be bleeping out most of it in about ten minutes time, even though you'll be after the watershed . watershed. >> i know so well family show. i'm not sure i'll be able to listen to all this foul language. it's coming up language. it's all coming up after the weather. i'll be back tomorrow at 8:00. i'm jacob rees—mogg. been state rees—mogg. this has been state of and the weather of the nation and the weather for halloween in somerset will be twice be absolutely sunny. twice >> here with your >> alex deakin here with your latest update the >> alex deakin here with your late: office update the >> alex deakin here with your late:office for update the >> alex deakin here with your late: office for gb date the >> alex deakin here with your late:office for gb date thisthe >> alex deakin here with your late:office for gb date this time met office for gb news this time tomorrow. storm kieran will be arriving there are many warnings in place for damaging gusts of wind, particularly on thursday across the south and across parts of the south and heavy rain. there's warnings tonight this area of low tonight from this area of low pressure bringing more rain, but here say, here comes the storm. as i say, really arriving during wednesday night lingering night and then lingering throughout thursday with amber warnings parts of the warnings across parts of the south. we have met office yellow

warnings in place for tonight and tomorrow across of and tomorrow across parts of northern and the northern ireland and the south—east for the heavy rain that in. the also that moves in. the rain also spreading its into southern spreading its way into southern scotland through the night. lots of rain coming of showery rain coming into wales england to wales and southern england to and quite breezy night, a mild and quite a breezy night, a mild night chilly night here. but another chilly one scotland where one in northern scotland where most of the night will be dry. but be a very wet but it's going to be a very wet a very different day tomorrow for the spreads across for the rain spreads in across scotland i said, we have got scotland as i said, we have got warnings in place for the night and first the morning and first thing in the morning for ireland and across for northern ireland and across the will lot of the south—east will be a lot of spray and surface water on the roads for the morning rush hour. pretty too. pretty blustery too. here, a gusty, day with a gusty, blustery day with a mixture of sunshine showers mixture of sunshine and showers for staying soggy for most, but staying soggy across scotland . across northern scotland. temperatures at getting temperatures at best getting into here comes temperatures at best getting into kieran here comes temperatures at best getting into kieran spreading comes temperatures at best getting into kieran spreading upmes temperatures at best getting into kieran spreading up from storm kieran spreading up from the south and then so spiralling in across the country during wednesday night and lasting for most of thursday with the ground so saturated , we are likely to so saturated, we are likely to see further issues. the see further flooding issues. the strongest across of strongest winds across parts of south and southern south wales and southern england. check england. please check the met office of

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>> good evening . i'm tatiana >> good evening. i'm tatiana sanchez. this is the latest from the newsroom. boris johnson's former chief adviser has told the covid inquiry he warned of the covid inquiry he warned of the imploding like a zombie apocalypse film. dominic cummings says he called for daily crisis meetings fearing the pandemic was coming much faster than expected. he also said the government had no plan to help vulnerable people during

lockdown and the cabinet office