it's 9:00. and this is mark dolan tonight in my big opinion. whisper it folks rishi sunak and the tories might just defy the odds and win the next general election . in the big story, mps election. in the big story, mps jobs are back in the news. should they be paid more to discourage taking another career? and my mar means guest is the esteemed winston churchill biographer andrew little. what do we think about churchill st all set out we'll discuss that after ten big guests big stories and always big opinions a lively 2 hours to come. but first the headlines with rae addison . thanks good with rae addison. thanks good evening. here's the latest from the gb newsroom team. a major

incident has been declared in dorset after, the equivalent of 200 barrels of oil and saline solution spilt into poole harbour this morning. poole harbour commissioners say the leak came from pipeline leading into the which farm onshore processing facility the pipeline has been shut down and the oil has been shut down and the oil has been shut down and the oil has been contained . members of has been contained. members of the public are being advised to swim in the harbour. the surrounding area offenders commit anti—social behaviour will be forced to clean up their communities as part of the prime minister's new immediate justice scheme under the plans to be announced tomorrow , local announced tomorrow, local authorities will be given new powers to quickly and, visibly punish criminals. those who spray graffiti or commit other vandalism will have to fix the damage within 48 hours. other penalties picking up litter and washing police cars . well, it's washing police cars. well, it's part of the crackdown . and the part of the crackdown. and the government has also announced a ban on the sale of laughing gas. levelling up, secretary michael

gove told nitrous oxide canisters are helping to fuel anti—social behaviour and turning public spaces into quote drug taking arenas . england has drug taking arenas. england has beaten ukraine to nil in group c euro qualifier match. both teams joined for a before the game as players clutched a ukrainian flag with peace written across it. had given 1000 free tickets to ukrainian refugees and their british hosts to attend the game. first half goals from harry kane and bukayo saka bukayo saka were enough to seal the win. teams face off again in september september. tensions have heightened between russia and ukraine with the country's media saying a blast. the tula region was caused by a ukrainian drone packed explosives. three people were reportedly injured when they were struck by shrapnel. however, ukraine has not so far claimed responsibility for the alleged attack. it follows pleas , the attack. it follows pleas, the european union for russia to

halt the stationing of nuclear in belarus. heaves the foreign ministry has called the decision and is calling for a session of the un security council and the us president has declared a state emergency in mississippi after a killed at least 26 people. the twister swept through the state and on into alabama cutting a of destruction. 170 miles long around 11,000 residents there have been without power. they say there was no safe to hide . say there was no safe to hide. we're on tv online , on dab+ we're on tv online, on dab+ radio, and of course , tuned in radio, and of course, tuned in to this is gb views. now to mark dolan . dolan. my dolan. my thanks to ray addison, who returns an hour's time. welcome to mark tonight. in my big opinion whisper it folks. the tories might just win the next

general election . will the rishi general election. will the rishi sunak defy the odds next year? my sunak defy the odds next year? my on that shortly. in the big story with rounds over some charging eye—watering amounts so—called consultancy services. this week we'll be should mps be paid more to discourage second jobs. are they underpaid. what do you think? my mar means guest is the top historian who's written a stunning new biography , winston churchill. we'll how a greatest brits and a sinner or a saint. we will get the definitive answer . it might take definitive answer. it might take a ten prince andrew, we're told, is considering writing a tell all book. have the british not suffered enough? i'll be reacting to that one and i won't be pulling my punches. in fact, i might get sent to the tower. tonight's will the government down on anti—social work? we'll be speaking to former home office minister. the star of mark dolan tonight. every and where to come . mark dolan

where to come. mark dolan tonight is the home of papers with tomorrow's front pages . with tomorrow's front pages. exactly 1030 sharp with three top pundits who haven't been told what to say and who don't follow. the script. tonight, i'm delighted to welcome look at the pedigree this evening . pedigree this evening. journalist and broadcaster angela making her first appearance on mark dolan tonight . legendary news broadcast and author michael craig and leadership coach , author and leadership coach, author and social commentator adrian hayes . tonight's i'll be asking the punst . tonight's i'll be asking the pundits after manchester andy burnham is fined speeding. should politicians held to a higher standard ? should higher standard? should landlords be limited to the number of properties they can own? and does christie need a woke makeover? you can guess my answer to that one, but we'll debate it with a panel shortly. plus, your emails. even the spicy ones mark@gbnews.uk. now this program has a golden rule. we don't do boring. not on my

watch . i just won't have it. watch. i just won't have it. let's get to work and we start with my big opinion . i've been with my big opinion. i've been saying for a long time that shares in keir starmer are too high and that shares in rishi sunak are too low and it's beginning to show in the polls. hardly surprising the current government that's seen three new prime ministers in what feels like the last 10 minutes and one which is presiding over a cost of living crisis and suffering aftermath of a sleaze should be behind the opposition. but old sunak has narrowed the gap with the latest delta poll survey revealing the tories are up eight points to 35 and are closing in on labour. i think keir starmer's worst nightmare is beginning to play out. which is beginning to play out. which is that the change that britain needed following the muck curial

premiership of boris johnson has happened already. without the need for an election . it turns need for an election. it turns out that sunak was the change candidate all along. he changed economic course , aided by the economic course, aided by the reassuringly boring jeremy hunt . these two have won back the trust of the international bond markets upon whose largesse we are now so reliant. the cost government borrowing has come down, and notwithstanding an unexpected jump this month, inflation should be down to 2.9% by the end of the year. sunak has been willing to change the pleasing approach of the previous incumbent, but one bofis previous incumbent, but one boris johnson , by sticking with boris johnson, by sticking with an unpopular policy of raising corporations tax. it may or may not be the right thing to do , not be the right thing to do, but the messaging, which seems be a big part of sunak's recent success, is that he's willing to make the tough choice and is

willing to be unpopular and not something you could say about bojo. sunak is pitching himself as the change candidate on migration as well following a deal with the french to build a massive migrant facility on french soil , massive migrant facility on french soil, which was widely seen as a win for sunak and a facility . yes will cost us facility. yes will cost us millions, but cost the french even. millions, but cost the french even . it shows that the french even. it shows that the french can be collaborative in the right hands . and so far sunak's right hands. and so far sunak's has been characterised by action , an attention to detail . again, , an attention to detail. again, a welcome change. the last guy , a welcome change. the last guy, the winds, the framework, the so—called breakthrough legislation to stop illegal immigration and the threat of tearing up the european on human rights to unlock the rwanda plan. sunak is all about delivering , but sunak ism about delivering, but sunak ism about messaging to stabilise the

economy , make brexit work , fix economy, make brexit work, fix the nhs and of course stop the boats . now the public aren't boats. now the public aren't stupid . know that the migrant stupid. know that the migrant crisis is a deeply complex one and they won't expect miracles . and they won't expect miracles. but the tories are owning this story ahead of labour. but the tories are owning this story ahead of labour . and if story ahead of labour. and if anything, the gary lineker soap opera helped the conservatives with starmer once again showing a wild lack of political judgement by backing a privileged virtue, signalling millionaire ex—footballer over red wall voters concerned about illegal immigration and who not wants something done . the wants something done. the migrant crisis is a humanitarian, economic and national security disaster , and national security disaster, and tackling it could test, decide and dictate the outcome . the and dictate the outcome. the next election. stop the boats is the new get brexit done. and on this issue labour are out to see. then there's the brilliant orcas deal with australia and the united states of course

reaffirming britain's position as a military superpower. that's progress on the widespread industrial action the government having stood their ground to the union barons. but with deals for nurses, train workers , ambulance nurses, train workers, ambulance drivers and junior doctors. hopefully in the. and then there is the presidential factor should the next election decided around the idea who leads britain than which party think again it's potentially a win for sunak , the 60 year old starmer sunak, the 60 year old starmer is not without his talents and steady as she goes persona his forthright efforts to the labour party from the scourge of antisemitism deserve great credit and he has made labour far, far more electable . but far, far more electable. but compared to the young sunak who has a twinkle in his eye. it's my view that starmer looks a bit tired dusty, old and by comparison. yes, the tories have

got more in their closet than count dracula . and post—brexit. count dracula. and post—brexit. and post boris as a party, they need to properly unite. that is not a done deal by any stretch . not a done deal by any stretch. but the public won't quickly forget that the alternative. keir starmer campaign for a corbyn government campaign to reverse brexit still to this day will not go on record and define what a woman actually is. why? because he's got no balls. so it's all to play for next year. anything could happen. and mrs. sunak might just be measuring up for new curtains at number 10. after all, that's if the tories can pull themselves together . can pull themselves together. i think show is all about your

opinion. support of labour would argue that the tories have destroyed the economy and in 30 years have been asleep at the when it comes to the delivery of public. labour would point to a sustained lead in the polls as britain is ready for change and they would argue that the migrant crisis has happened on the conservative watch and they're serious tackling it. so what do you think market gbnews.uk ? get me your emails in gbnews.uk? get me your emails in as soon you can. let's get reaction from my wonderful panel reaction from my wonderful panel. tonight's top columnists and broadcaster angela epstein. legendary news journalist michael crick and leadership coach, author and social commentator adrian hayes . andrew commentator adrian hayes. andrew epstein, welcome to mark dolan tonight . thank you for having tonight. thank you for having me. great to have you on the show . do you think that shares show. do you think that shares in rishi sunak are too low at the moment? i think the moment? yeah i think certainly bringing a whole certainly he's bringing a whole energetic into energetic breeze back into conservative party. we've had fiasco of liz truss. i the whole issue with the with the inquiry into boris and partygate at the moment even though that may drag on until september when the

committee reaches its verdict that to voted upon. that has to be voted upon. i think that's business which is going to be i think for all going to be done i think for all the things that you've listed where he's shown he's sort of stuck head above the parapet stuck his head above the parapet and i mean, to do and said, no, i mean, to do business it my hands. business and i hold it my hands. i thought he lightweight i thought he was a lightweight at the beginning. i didn't at the beginning. i also didn't like brutus way he wielded like the brutus way he wielded the knife boris, which triggered whole events that whole event chain of events that led to his departure from the office of prime minister. but i think there's an awful lot there that people who are now on decided remember, people may have become disenfranchised from the tory party. but that doesn't necessarily mean went over to laboun necessarily mean went over to labour. they might get to the reform party, they might decide they're not going at they're not going to vote at all. of whole all. so that kind of whole floating voters who may floating body of voters who may well come back now that he's showing so much in what, showing so much energy in what, he's doing i mean, things like the, you know, blocking the gender bill in scotland. you know, he's he's massively precipitating the downfall of nicola sturgeon. yes. the gender recognition bill was something

that a lot of politicians, you know, said, may not have know, as he said, may not have had balls to touch. if had the balls to touch. if that's not unfortunate and that's not an unfortunate and see that now. no, i don't really to think about that one but also you know strikes he's showing his mettle there he's not giving in automatically rolled over to the unions. so i if we're looking for some energy and leadership then yeah maybe his stock should higher. what do you think? michael carrick i just wonder whether rishi sunak's short tenure at number 10 has been characterised by two things deliver and strong messaging. yeah i think there's a lot of truth in what you said in your monologue, and i think analogy really is when john major took over from margaret thatcher, remember way back in 1990 and thatcher, and that government were deeply unpopular and major turned it around in 18 months a great figure. a serious figure though. and that's what we've got with sunak compared with both johnson before both truss and johnson before him and the conservatives actually in 1992 got more votes

than any any party ever got in an election more than 14 million, even though the majority was small. now, the big problem this time for sunak is the economy . i mean, we know the economy. i mean, we know growth is there isn't really going to be any growth this yeah going to be any growth this year. inflation is predicted to be 2.9 by the end of the year. but that prediction was made before last month's. inflation went up rather than down. so i think that is a bit of an optimistic prediction on the government's part and that could carry into , next year carry on well into, next year when the economy is going badly , to like the , people tend not to like the government course will government and course they will be constantly remind indeed, by the of johnson regime the fiasco of johnson regime and, all the appalling things that went on in downing street and parties and, so on. and we will not just get the reminders with the report, as angela says. but then there's the whole question to question of whether there's to be in parliament, then a be a vote in parliament, then a possible byelection , and then possible byelection, and then bofis possible byelection, and then boris wins or loses it, boris johnson wins or loses it, and then will he go and look for new seats boris johnson is new seats or boris johnson is going reminding of his going to be reminding us of his disastrous and rishi disastrous government and rishi sunak the fix partygate and

sunak the fix for partygate and the sleaze possibly, possibly . the sleaze possibly, possibly. but i think that every every and then about every ten years in politics, events are so traumatic that scar voters in a way that most political events don't. and people say, right, the conservatives never again. now i'm i think that's probably the case here. and it may well be that you actually end up with nobody winning an outright majority think the most likelihood is that labour will win an outright we'll get a we'll be the biggest party but without a majority and in those circumstances labour have the advantage because nearly all the other parties in parliament are likely to vote for a labour prime. with the exception of the dup the lib dems. would the nationalists would whatever. how many greens . there nationalists would whatever. how many greens. there are only anyone at the moment they would and i think the likely outcome is you will get a starmer government but i don't think it's at all certain. a lot depends on scotland, course, depends on scotland, of course, because don't know whether because we don't know whether the demise of nicola sturgeon ,

the demise of nicola sturgeon, the demise of nicola sturgeon, the demise of the snp . i mean at the demise of the snp. i mean at the demise of the snp. i mean at the moment labour's only got one seat in scotland and the labour party is, know, next to dead party is, you know, next to dead frankly in scotland. that frankly in scotland. well that it may be revived partly on who is elected leader tomorrow . so is elected leader tomorrow. so there's so many imponderables . there's so many imponderables. but i wouldn't write off the they finally the conservatives got the serious politician and a serious chancellor of the exchequer, whereas there were so many jokes figures over the last few years. well, i just wonder and i michael's raised a good point if it's about the branding of the parties and, the reputation of the parties, then labour long. but if our labour all day long. but if our system has become presidential , system has become presidential, think it's sunak's to take well my view. firstly, i, michael and andrew ross, would you sell the political spectrum. as i say, i said nowhere. i'm politically homeless . and why i say that, homeless. and why i say that, because i was part of the left side of things and think the side of things and i think the left versus dividers and left versus right dividers and it finish went an up it is as finish went on an up top versus bottom but i think there's so people now that there's so many people now that are homeless that i think people

will vote with hearts more than ever before because the conservative is always relied you know if , you conservative is always relied you know if, you don't conservative is always relied you know if , you don't vote for you know if, you don't vote for us you're going to get labour government in when most people think labour's going win think that labour's going win anyway. people will vote anyway. i think people will vote with their hearts. i think the smaller far more , far smaller will be far more, far bigger they have in bigger than they have been in the now won't change the past. now that won't change the past. now that won't change the results election, it the results election, but it could very interesting. one could be very interesting. one after this. so i as i said, i think and i think one of the things and we've the downfall of nicola i think the nicola sturgeon, i think the culture wars and the progress is the versus the common the elites versus the common people, versus people, progressives versus common . think that is common sense. i think that is going to become one of the main defining you know, defining factors. you know, i work abroad a lot. the rest of the world, middle east, asia—pacific is laughing at us with our culture wars and our gender i.d. with our culture wars and our gender id. and all this stuff . gender id. and all this stuff. and think a politician who's and i think a politician who's brave to be a ron desantis brave to be like a ron desantis , whatever political parties on storm was milked it down. sturgeon got out from it. i think that could be a defining factor for the silent majority

of this country. factor for the silent majority of this country . you go an of this country. you go an interesting point. the culture wars , they be factor. have the wars, they be a factor. have the tories turned the corner? what do you think at gbnews.uk ? a do you think at gbnews.uk? a very busy show tonight. coming up in the big story, should employees paid more to discourage jobs? we'll debate that with top telegraph columnist . tim stanley and columnist. tim stanley and former conservative government minister lord sue. and .

tim well, a big reaction to my big opinion, i think there's a chance the tories could win next election. let's get the views of dave market so obvious you are centre left from your views on rishi boris slippery will never be forgiven for what they did to boris. we voted boris for five years in 2019. he's the reason rishi can get anything done in parliament you for that dave

graham. hi mark. people have always voted for leaders over a party. thatcher blair and boris for a start not sure sunak is in that league though. but i'm prepared to give him a chance . prepared to give him a chance. and last but not least for now, this is from alan. good evening, alan. thanks for your email. alan. thanks for your email. alan says mark. yes the country is looking for change. however, i doubt if either sunak or starmer are the answer in the next election. it will be a choice for the least worse option. okay, well look , we'll option. okay, well look, we'll get some more of your emails shortly. markets gbnews.uk . it's shortly. markets gbnews.uk. it's time now for the big in which we tackle a major news issue of the day tonight with the problem of parliamentarians. second jobs yet again hitting, parliamentarians. second jobs yet again hitting , the headlines yet again hitting, the headlines after two high profile former ministers were caught charging eye—watering rates for services to a non—existent political consultancy firm. we're should employees be paid more to

discourage second jobs. to this i'm delighted to welcome the former deputy leader of the conservative party former cabinet minister. conservative party former cabinet minister . well for the cabinet minister. well for the conservatives lord peter lily and the brilliant telegraph columnist and historian tim stanley . tim does this prove stanley. tim does this prove that mp fees are underpaid ? no, that mp fees are underpaid? no, certainly not. and if the hourly or daily rate they quoting to the person claiming to be a consultant were anything accurate then i would suggest that there is such a thing as too much money and they hope to make . i found too much money and they hope to make. i found it too much money and they hope to make . i found it extraordinary make. i found it extraordinary the amounts of money that were being quoted and it doesn't sound like very thing so sound like a very thing so there's much i think there's too much money. i think there's too much money. i think there probably actually . i'm there probably is actually. i'm not against second jobs in principle. of the problem principle. part of the problem of debate that when of this whole debate that when you people, should you say to people, should employees have a second jobs, they think those kind they usually think of those kind of fees which are of consultancy fees which are grotesque don't get grotesque and big and don't get their around what the their head around what the mp is actually doing in order to get that money. what about someone

who's doctor spare who's a doctor in their spare time? people who, time? what about people who, dunng time? what about people who, during pandemic going during the pandemic were going back their constituencies to back to their constituencies to help nhs? all for help out in the nhs? all for that. all with not that. i have no at all with not having a hinterland, with having an income . the an additional income. the problem this sting was it problem with this sting was it just looked tawdry and we all know the reason why those know that the reason why those of ex—ministers command of ex—ministers can command consultancy fees, if indeed they do one, has to be careful is because they are essentially selling their experience. the pubuc selling their experience. the public investor in them, the pubuc public investor in them, the public made them . it gave them public made them. it gave them that experience . the mis selling that experience. the mis selling it on to private and i just don't think that feels right. peter lily, what's your view on this . peter lily, what's your view on this. perhaps we should pay mps more but not allow them to have second job? i reverse view . second job? i reverse view. think it's desirable that employees have a second job? it makes them more independent of the whips. it gives them a foot in the real. it will tend to more worthwhile business people who got proper jobs rather than

just full time politicians . and just full time politicians. and i always some outside interest for a lot the time because it was being a minister. no one thinks that that's odd that you spend most of your time in department and you're paid extra for. it's up to the electorate whether they like what you're delivering as an mp and if you fail to deliver because you spend all your time either playing or working for some consultant in abu dhabi or something , then they'll take it something, then they'll take it out on you. but it's the mps, it's the constituents, the voters who should make that choice and not some legislative , some regulator of what members do now. peter lilley i will agree with you that it's desirable politicians have , some desirable politicians have, some kind of professional hinterland . they've got the career, they've made something of their lives before entering parliament. but it too much to ask that they consent trade for their working hours in

representing 60 or 70,000 constituents. why isn't that a full time job? well up to their constituents. i certainly remember i was challenged one election meeting by one of my opponents who said if he was elected, he'd be a full time mp . unlike me who worked 70 hours a month doing something else and so much, which he said meant worked to get what it was, but today's money, £1,000 an hour totally. but i just simply, you know, i work 50 or 60 hours a week for you , which means you're week for you, which means you're getting 50 or 60 hours, £1,000 an hour. that's £50,000 worth of my time a week. an hour. that's £50,000 worth of my time a week . why should it my time a week. why should it worry if you spend some time on an addition to that , on the an addition to that, on the board of a company or consulting firm some enterprise that wants to invest this country or whatever ? and they all cheered whatever? and they all cheered and said , yeah, that's right. we and said, yeah, that's right. we prefer that . but it's up to the prefer that. but it's up to the voters to make this decision. and it's not up to you, me, some

standards commissioner to decide it . tim stanley i just wonder , it. tim stanley i just wonder, we should consider paying mps something in the region . 200 or something in the region. 200 or £250,000, but just say second job and you will represent constituents. that's right. we're back in the debate . we're back in the debate. welfare versus tax . why is it welfare versus tax. why is it whenever we deal with welfare and the poor, we always punish to make them work harder whenever ? it comes to the rich whenever? it comes to the rich and taxable salaries like this. we feel we have to bribe them to work harder. we shouldn't have to do that . if nothing else, to do that. if nothing else, there's supposed to be a sense of vocation about being an mp that you should wish , do the job that you should wish, do the job and yourself it because and dedicate yourself it because you to be part public you wish to be part public service. now are some service. and now are some countries like singapore which pay countries like singapore which pay something like £500,000 a year to their employees. they've taken the view that they do need to need to get the to write. people need to get the best other best of the best. other countries don't do that. but don't with idea don't run away with the idea that people in this country are

in some way under. it was about 1911 we started paying our 1911 that we started paying our mp who paid £400 a year, which works to between 30 to £40000 today. that's a that's a reasonable middle class. today. that's a that's a reasonable middle class . what is reasonable middle class. what is essentially doubled , since that essentially doubled, since that mp is out doing . okay. they very mp is out doing. okay. they very often have to maintain second homes that have problems with expenses. homes that have problems with expenses . there are many expenses. there are many stresses strains on stresses and strains on employees such as what employees lives, such as what happens them. lose their happens to them. they lose their job property job and their property isn't enough. to support enough. being done to support a lot tourism. these are going lot of tourism. these are going to go through the next couple of years. so there are ways of making being mp life easier? making being an mp life easier? but the vocational but i would still the vocational element and don't run away with this that mp is a pulpit this idea that mp is a pulpit because they're really not compared to the rest of us. although stanley, the public although tim stanley, the public won't take kindly to that footage of the likes of kwasi kwarteng pitching his services to a non—existent korean business. no they won't. and was very amusing to watch because in the course of kwasi realising that there was more money on the table, he realised his daily

hourly rate seemed to go up very suddenly. it was amusing to watch him adjust to that. funny thing, i haven't watched the entire . i'm thing, i haven't watched the entire. i'm not thing, i haven't watched the entire . i'm not sure it's all entire. i'm not sure it's all been released yet, but from the train of thought i saw a striking about it was that striking thing about it was that the person setting up fake consultancy apparently didn't make the website make it clear on the website what. consultancy did . and i what. the consultancy did. and i find idea of selling find the idea of selling themselves someone anything, themselves to someone anything, whatever it is they want from me, i find inherently amusing. and again, it comes back to nothing illegal has been done, by way. nothing by the way. nothing unparliamentary improper. and unparliamentary or improper. and the making the the people making the documentary claim it's documentary don't claim it's that so tawdry it's just that it's so tawdry it's just not something you want to see your representative doing . and your representative doing. and by the way, what precisely is kwasi or matt hancock setting ? kwasi or matt hancock setting? they're not exactly regarded as the most successful public servants this . no. servants we've had in this. no. now, lord peter, in any other in the show, we whether shares in keir starmer are a little too high at the moment and shares rishi sunak a little too low . rishi sunak a little too low. what's your view? that was the

topic. my big opinion. i think you can't out the tories winning the next election. you you can't rule it out. obviously you'd be unwise on the opinion polls to bet house on that happening . bet house on that happening. rishi is very able extremely clever . he's rishi is very able extremely clever. he's got one weakness which is that he doesn't come over with in his belly. he needs to be able to make people believe that he believes in things he does believe in. but mrs. thatcher said to carry conviction. you have to have convictions. we also have to those convictions . and that he those convictions. and that he doesn't do what he can't do is outlaw storm as time is going on. it'sjust outlaw storm as time is going on. it's just to outlaw storm as time is going on. it'sjust to be boring. if on. it's just to be boring. if he's boring then and people are fed up with the tories they'll vote for him. if we are equally boring, they'll still vote for him. so we got to be interesting, competent , able and interesting, competent, able and dnven. interesting, competent, able and driven . and rishi is to this. driven. and rishi is to this. they say he's going to be the sad thing as well. he's got to show that he's driven by principles, ideas, a vision

which people can identify with . which people can identify with. tim stanley, i can bring you the exclusive results . our twitter exclusive results. our twitter poll on this topic. will rishi sunak defy the odds and win next general election ? take a look at general election? take a look at the graphic . at the moment, it the graphic. at the moment, it would appear that 70.3% of the pubuc would appear that 70.3% of the public say that he will not win next election. however . 29.7 next election. however. 29.7 think he's in with a with a shout to your colleague fraser nelson at the telegraph thinks there's a slight chance they could surprise everyone . year could surprise everyone. year what's your view tim i'm afraid i think it's safe money is still on labour winning an election. there's another element to this, which is that tomorrow the new leader of the snp will be announced. and right now in scotland, labour edging up towards the snp could even overtake it if that happens then scotland is then in favour of laboun scotland is then in favour of labour. that just makes getting a even easier in terms a majority even easier in terms of national polls at labour is

still far, far ahead . i'm not still far, far ahead. i'm not going to deny that rishi sunak has surprised , but that's partly has surprised, but that's partly that he appears to have done well in the context what came well in the context of what came before. been through before. we've been through a year political chaos and someone delivering the framework, someone going to meet macron and having such an amiable meeting or apparently doing much on the boats. it looks partly compared to what the tories did before and i think a lot of people are still going to judge the party as a whole on 13 years in government, not just the performance of rishi in the last few months. my thanks , lord lily few months. my thanks, lord lily and the telegraph columnist tim stanley. a fascinating conversation. what's your view do you think that rishi sunak can turn the tables and surprise with an election victory in a year's time? mark and gbnews.uk. and what about second jobs? how do you feel about your mp moon for cold hard . mark at gb news. for cold hard. mark at gb news. is the email now coming up as

andy burnham, the mayor of greater manchester, gets fined almost thousand pounds and gets six points on his licence for doubung six points on his licence for doubling the speed limit for driving over 30 miles an hour over speed limit he was driving in. should politicians be held to a higher standard ? should to a higher standard? should landlords be limited to the number of properties they can own? and does agatha christie need a woke makeover? all of thatis need a woke makeover? all of that is .

next welcome back to look a big response to our conversation about the to all the tories on the verge of surprising everyone and the next election . this from and the next election. this from and the next election. this from a look . yes sir steve who says a look. yes sir steve who says mark i do think that rishi is a talented guy. and i think he will produce a result in a

year's time . on whether mp have year's time. on whether mp have second jobs and second careers. hi mark colin. 650 inexperienced people are called mps and paid £84,000 to stick to the party line. colin, thank you for that . now let's get to the pundits in which my fantastic brilliant political commentators react to the big stories of the day . top the big stories of the day. top columnist and broadcaster angela . legendary news michael crick and leadership coach. author and social commentator adrian hayes now. great manchester mayor andy burnham has been fined almost £2,000 after speeding at 78 miles an hour on a 40 mile an hour motorway . this is not the hour motorway. this is not the first time a politician has broken the law, but should politicians be held to higher standards? michael. yes, they should actually . politicians are should actually. politicians are the people pass the laws who make the and if they break them, i think it undermines the rule

of law much more than if an ordinary person does. mind you, it was a stiff fine in this case, wasn't it? nearly £2,000. and i think he was. he was driving in one of those areas that the speed limit had been reduced, and he claimed not to have noticed it. and i think he's probably and i think i believe him on that. but i think as a principle, i think politicians should and equally i think that would apply to the ex—prime to ex—prime when it comes to parties in downing well parties in downing street. well well, absolutely . but but, well, absolutely. but but, adrian, mean, you are an award adrian, i mean, you are an award winning i recall winning adventurer. i recall breaking adventurer, 7 to 8 miles an hour on a 40 road that's going some. look, don't ask me. i'm smart motorways. they're anything but smart i detest them . and let's be detest them. and let's be honest, who of us hasn't gone through when ? who's that? who through when? who's that? who hasn't noticed the produce speed limit? so i would defend burnham speeding on a motorway symptom. we all drive above 70 on motorways, every car is going around 80, but on the waterfront. so i agree with

michael. i think we do. to hold politicians more accountable. i said this on the show before . said this on the show before. you know what i want above all, from politician is honesty, integrity have integrity and authenticity. have got that today . sorry, don't you got that today. sorry, don't you live in manchester? and he is your mayor he is my mayor and i know that stretch of motorway very well junction ten and nine and ten on the m62 and it is a smart motorway . adrian's right smart motorway. adrian's right they are awful . they have these they are awful. they have these basically variables speed limits that chop and change according to the traffic flow in order to manage traffic expectations and keep cars moving. so yeah. okay sounds like fair mitigation, but he held up his hands and said, i'm guilty . he held up his hands and said, i'm guilty. he was still doing 78. so even if it had been a 70, he was going over 70. but sort of concerned me about the story about. yes. agreeing with that, you know they need to lead by example is. this is his turf smart are very much in the news. there's a lot of controversy about whether they have any benefit and whether they're actually and would hope actually and you would hope a

switched politician who knows his own geography would be aware of a smart motorway stretch. you can see them because the dumb things have hard shoulders . just things have hard shoulders. just have these sporadic labels. they're dangerous things and there's so much sort of conversation about them. they have not to be aware of that. and so my mind was elsewhere then sorts on the i mean, i don't that. there you go. well i millionaire couple have purchased an entire village based in wales. the new landowners have up rents by an extortionate 60. many locals have been left in fear of eviction to keep their homes. so it begs the question, should landlords be limited to the number of properties they own? what do you think? angela so lutely not. first of all, we've got a big problem with those who have the good fortune accrue any kind of cash in today's kind of economic situation. is that it mean i am the wife of an accountant so this is the very thrilling pillow talk that goes on in our house but but you know the view is that you have cash

in the you don't really enjoy the largesse of interest rates that are beneficial to the savers. so it just withers . so savers. so it just withers. so what you do if you've worked what do you do if you've worked hard life, you've built hard all your life, you've built up reserves, then you put up some reserves, then you put it property so that there's it into property so that there's a free market is also there not removing properties from the rental market that , just more rental market that, just more people are owning them. we do need affordable housing, need more affordable housing, more affordable social housing, unequivocally, yes, but i think, you know, somebody is selling them as well. so it's not just about the people who are putting, you know, malcolm, i think a big portfolio, somebody is to sell the stuff. is willing to sell the stuff. well, this couple have bought an entire don't think it entire village don't think it reflects our reflects the unequal of our society i mean an entire society now i mean an entire village not a nest egg is village that's not a nest egg is it? not appeared out it? that's not appeared out there. that they are there. but that they are entitled to do their wealth. what to do. if what they want to do. if somebody selling the now , if somebody is selling the now, if they crank up rents by they can then crank up rents by 60, that's unethical. surely that's what landlords do. that's whole buy to let should they be allowed? no, but hang on. who who allowed there's

who allowed them? there's monopoly emerges thing about villages why were they allowed to buy 70 properties. why blame the person who's buying it? blame the vendor. what do you think , michael? some more think, michael? some more controls ? no, i think rent controls? no, i think rent controls? no, i think rent controls and controls on number of properties that people going to own would have effects in the long term and would people from renting out properties and buying private and it would cause even more problems for the rental market. i just think morally it's wrong and you we should all be saying this, you know, to put up some of these rent ordinary people's rents by 60% is disgusting and that is then that should be made clear to this couple. well, in the latest saga of literary revisionism , a number of agatha revisionism, a number of agatha christie novels have been amended to remove supposed racist terms and out dated language. this comes just weeks a household name author roald dahl his books and of course, ian fleming's books were edited to within an inch of their

lives. so agatha christie books need wake up, woke makeover. i'll put my teeth back in in a minute and. what do you think about this, adrian? this is just one tip of the iceberg of everything. the whole culture wars, spoke about wars, which i spoke about earlier look , we're in a society earlier look, we're in a society where, we are bringing up people in this sanitised cotton wool wrapped up society , which will wrapped up society, which will not work if the world goes in that for the rest of the rest of our lifetimes. but it isn't like that. and i think what we are harming our younger people in particular by just by over by taking offence, just being so taking offence, by just being so concerned about what's written in , we're more harm in books, we're doing more harm than good . what you think than good. what do you think about have you read about this? have you read christie's novels ? i haven't christie's novels? i haven't read. i don't. i might read one, but not an agatha christie but i'm not an agatha christie fan. mean, my view of is, fan. i mean, my view of is, look, it's really up to the copyright holders who are presumably christie family presumably the christie family and dahl family if they want and the dahl family if they want to another edition , a to produce another edition, a woke edition , then fine. what i woke edition, then fine. what i hope they won't do is stop

producing the original editions , and i think that's what's now being agreed. in the case of dahl being agreed. in the case of dahl, it's not not clear what's going to happen, but, you know, if have two different if we have two different editions broken down and that puts sales , then great. puts up sales, then great. angela i think it's wrong to touch any art, particularly if the author, the creator is no longer with us. yeah i think so. i think it's messy with the sandy silver. very recently i was i writing a travel piece was i was writing a travel piece about playskool wallis in about playskool wallis said in south oxfordshire, is south oxfordshire, which is where at the where agatha christie at the height fame, a height of her fame, bought a home that could a kind of home so that she could a kind of secluded existence and write her books. the local has lots of stuff about her she's a million miles away from this kind of modern stress. if you if you through the text to the person that writes it you know the suggestion she's some kind of monstrous racist sexist message list all these horrible words we hear all the time. she was just a very nice lady who wrote books and used the parlance the time. i mean, it says things like, you know, you do. i mean, you know, i'm i don't think cancel

i'm jewish. i don't think cancel the whole lot. it reflects the time in which she is she wrote that well done it some that you well who done it some bloke that we'll bloke publishes that we'll discuss email mark discuss that via email mark gbnews.uk . but next up st gbnews.uk. but next up st austell will discuss winston churchill . next .

it's time now for mark mates . it's time now for mark mates. and this is the moment when i speak to the biggest names in the world of politics, sports, showbiz and beyond as well as those who have a big story to. and it doesn't get much bigger than churchill, who's controversial . a short stint as controversial. a short stint as a scottish mp long before the war. it's chronicled by the highly respected historian andrew liddle in his brand new book, cheers churchill, winston in scotland, the book's winning

rave reviews with the top churchill biographer andrew roberts calling it groundbreaking. andrew liddle welcome to mark dolan tonight tonight high , mark. thanks very tonight high, mark. thanks very much for having me on and thank you for dressing up as well. churchill would be proud. how did winston churchill end up as an mp in scotland for nearly 15 years ? right. well, it's quite years? right. well, it's quite interesting story, actually . he interesting story, actually. he was elected in 1908 in a by—election in dundee. but the reason he had to fight that was because he was actually defeated in another by—election in manchester north—west because before 1926, when you moved into the cabinet for the first time, you had fight the by—election in your constituency something called the ministerial by—election rule, which, you know, some people might argue we should possibly bring back . so should possibly bring back. so the churchill had to fight a by—election in manchester, northwest. he lost and he then urgently needed a seat in order to his position in the cabinet

for the first time. so really important kind of pinch point in churchill's career. and there was availability in dundee was an availability in dundee and he was he went up there, and so he was he went up there, came up to scotland for the seat and would hold it for almost the next 15 years. was his contribution foreign to scotland a positive one? very so i think i mean, i think it's a shame, you know, in scotland today that perhaps churchill's time as mp for dundee and his contributions scottish politics isn't recognised as much as it should be. he did play a really important role in scottish politics during time as mp and afterwards in particular he was afterwards in particular he was a huge enthusiast, afterwards in particular he was a huge enthusiast , for better or a huge enthusiast, for better or worse, for devolution. one of the earliest kind of pioneers, not ricketts, fought for a scottish parliament in 1911. he took a plan to the cabinet, which would have delivered a devolution settlement actually on a greater scale than the one that was eventually delivered in 1999. so you know, a huge

pioneer, i guess a scottish. let's go . obviously stopping let's go. obviously stopping well short of independence. but he did make a very valuable contribution. i think to scottish political life . was scottish political life. was there any evidence a scottish mp there any evidence a scottish mp the star he would become . the star he would become. absolutely i mean this period he was mp from i said from 1908 to 1922. you know it really the emergence of churchill as a kind of national political figure it was his big breaks in cabinet. you know he was first lord of the admiralty. he had a bit of a difficulty, obviously, with with the dardanelles and gallipoli , the dardanelles and gallipoli, but he a huge national but he was a huge national figure and he really cut his teeth in dundee during lots of pubuc teeth in dundee during lots of public speaking, huge kind of events with, you know, thousands and thousands people turning up. so there was definitely a taste of things to come. and i think that, you know , this period he

that, you know, this period he showed his resilience suppose in the way that you know, we would all benefit from it . in 1940 was all benefit from it. in 1940 was he as witty and insightful and as eloquent as he would become as eloquent as he would become as our prime? he certainly was actually i mean, he faced a tough time, particularly in his final election in dundee, that was one rally that he held that was one rally that he held that was disrupted by kind of communists . and someone shouted communists. and someone shouted out , you know, communists. and someone shouted out, you know, you're going to be bottom of the poll. to which he responded, well, at least me one die and kick, you know. and so he was he was he managed to keep up quite good, a good form even when he was facing a bit of a difficult and you he very much had all the kind of accoutrements and habits that we would think of as being churchillian today. you know he would big kind of champagne suppers in dundee. i mean one of the things i talk about in the bookis the things i talk about in the book is looking at his hotel receipts you know show receipts you know which show that spent as much on kind of

that he spent as much on kind of champagne and cigars hot baths these kind of luxuries during his visits to the constituency as he did on the actual rooms himself so he certainly had a good time i think as well when he was when he was out there. your view of this raffish zionist approach to the legacy of winston churchill in your view, was he a saint or a sinner 7 view, was he a saint or a sinner ? well, i think he was very interesting. mark, you were talking a little earlier, just about about literary revisionism . i think that's definitely in scotland. and indeed, i think in a wider sense, a bit of a revisionist attitude towards. churchill, at the moment, you know which i think is largely replaced , misplaced. i think replaced, misplaced. i think particularly in the scottish context, you know , it's heavily context, you know, it's heavily influenced, negative perceptions of churchill are heavily by the movement that we have in scotland and by a desire i think to denigrate churchill a figure of britishness . you know, i of britishness. you know, i think he therefore has become a source rather sad casualty . i

source rather sad casualty. i think in in the war between kind of private anti independence forces . so i saw i would forces. so i saw i would definitely you know, i think even putting aside what what churchill did in scotland , i churchill did in scotland, i think, you know, his role in saving the country and indeed, you know, you kind of civilisation in 1940 definitely means he's a saint. my eyes briefly if you can andrew you are up in scotland's capital right now as we old reekie, the beautiful city of edinburgh. who do you think going to become the next first minister? well i think, you know, probably the best man, i'd say possibly kate forbes might sneak it. best man, i'd say possibly kate forbes might sneak it . of forbes might sneak it. of course, humza yousaf of the other candidates does have something in common with churchill in both being resident in dundee , although it doesn't in dundee, although it doesn't actually represent dundee anyway. that's a slightly different story, but no, i think it stands a very chance. and you know, i think she on balance be

the best for the country . the best for the country. congratulations the publication of the book, it's had glowing reviews as i the iconic churchill . andrew roberts has churchill. andrew roberts has called it, ground breaking . the called it, ground breaking. the bookis called it, ground breaking. the book is called cheers . mr. book is called cheers. mr. churchill, winston in scotland and its author is , andrew and its author is, andrew little. thanks, andrew . thanks little. thanks, andrew. thanks so much for having me, mark. by some distance my best dressed guest on tonight's show wearing a churchill and cigar. he was only missing the cigar itself , i only missing the cigar itself, i should say. bow tie have gone mad . listen, folks, lots more to mad. listen, folks, lots more to get through a busy hour to come . hearing that prince andrew wants to write a tell all. i'll be reacting to that in take it ten. let me tell you, i'm not pulling my punches . plus, we got pulling my punches. plus, we got tomorrow's papers at exactly 1030 with my fantastic pundits lots to get through prince .

next it's 10:00 next it's10:00 and this is mark tonight it might take ten prince andrew we're told his considering writing a tell all book. have the british public not suffered enough? i'll be reacting to that one and i will be pulling royal punches . well, be pulling royal punches. well, the government's crackdown on anti social behaviour work my news make it tonight is former prisons minister ann widdecombe. we've the papers at 1030 sharp with full panel reaction. so big guest , big with full panel reaction. so big guest, big stories and always big opinions. guest, big stories and always big opinions . lively hour to big opinions. lively hour to come. lots to get through prince andrew next. but first up, gb news rae addison . thanks, mark. news rae addison. thanks, mark. it's 10:00. news rae addison. thanks, mark. it's10:00. here's the news rae addison. thanks, mark. it's 10:00. here's the latest . a it's10:00. here's the latest. a major incident has been declared

in dorset after the equivalent 200 barrels of oil and saline solution spilt into pool this morning. harbour say the leak came from a pipeline line leading into the witch farm onshore processing facility . onshore processing facility. pipeline has been shut down and the oil has been contained . the oil has been contained. members of the public are being advised not to swim in poole harbour or the surrounding area of who commit anti—social behaviour . of who commit anti—social behaviour. you will be forced to clean up their communities. part of the prime minister's new justice scheme under the plans to be announced tomorrow , local to be announced tomorrow, local authorities will be given new powers to quickly and visibly punish criminals. those who spray graffiti or commit other vandalism will have to fix the damage within 48 hours of the penalties include picking up litter , washing police cars . litter, washing police cars. well, it's part of that crackdown . the government has crackdown. the government has also announced ban on the sale of laughing gas. levelling up secretary michael gove told

broadcasters that oxide canisters are helping to fuel anti—social behaviour and turning public spaces into drug taking arenas arenas . england taking arenas arenas. england has beaten ukraine to nil in their group c euro qualifier match. both teams joined for a photograph before the game as players clutched a ukrainian with peace written across it . with peace written across it. the i had given 1000 free tickets to ukrainian refugees and their british hosts attend the game. first half goals from harry kane and bukayo saka were enough to seal the win. the teams will face off again in september . tensions have september. tensions have heightened russia and ukraine with the country's state media saying that a blast in the tula region was caused by a ukrainian packed with explosives . three packed with explosives. three people were reportedly injured when they were struck by shrapnel . however, ukraine has shrapnel. however, ukraine has not claimed responsibility for the attack follows pleas from the attack follows pleas from the european for russia to halt

the european for russia to halt the stationing nuclear weapons in belarus . the stationing nuclear weapons in belarus. he's the stationing nuclear weapons in belarus . he's foreign in belarus. he's foreign ministry has called the decision provocative. they're calling a session of the un security council . the session of the un security council. the us session of the un security council . the us president session of the un security council. the us president has declared a state of emergency and after a tornado killed at least 26 people. the twister swept through the state and on into alabama, cutting a path of destruction. 170 miles long, around 11,000 residents there are still without power . they are still without power. they say there was no safe to hide . say there was no safe to hide. we're on tv online, dab+ radio and on tuned in to this is gb news back now to . news back now to. mark thanks ray. this is mark tomlinson right. will the government's crackdown on anti—social behaviour work ? my anti—social behaviour work? my newsmaker tonight is former

minister, bestselling author and tv personality ann widdecombe. we've got the papers exactly 1030 sharp with full reaction from three of the country's top . and coming my take at ten. and it's all about prince andrew lots to get through big stories, big guests and big opinions. let's start with this . let's start with this. apparent make war in ukraine, a cost living crisis. three prime ministers in a year. have we not suffered enough. it not. we're heanng suffered enough. it not. we're hearing that the right royal numpty, prince wants to write a book. that's assuming he gets hold of enough crayons to write it with. hot on the heels of prince harry's 400 page moan a thon in which the world's happy millionaire rants about how terrible his life is from the luxury of his californian

mansion, it seems that his highly libidinous uncle man, previously known as randy , wants previously known as randy, wants to tell his story. why bother? we it already. this is a prince who's brought the royal family into disrepute . his friendship into disrepute. his friendship with known jeffrey epstein . and with known jeffrey epstein. and he made a fool of himself and his family. with that newsnight interview in which he claimed to a disorder in which he doesn't sweat . well, he's sweating now . sweat. well, he's sweating now. he faces a possible eviction even from his £30 million home, the royal lodge, in windsor. after our dynamic new king charles threatens to cut his annual salary of a quarter of £1,000,000. but this fat cat aristocrats won't hungry. it turns out the privileged prince has inherited from his late mother and father. nice work if you can get it. our modern new king charles iii, who i think we can all agree, has got off to a

cracking start, wants to have a slimmed down monarchy and the first lump of unwanted that he's deaung first lump of unwanted that he's dealing with is himself who hasn't just discredited members of his own family. he a national embarrassment . prince andrew , a embarrassment. prince andrew, a man who was gifted an incredible house by his late mother . man who was gifted an incredible house by his late mother. he man who was gifted an incredible house by his late mother . he got house by his late mother. he got married but sold it to a kazakh oligarch for £15 million in 2005. and this is a man who settled out of court to the tune of millions against his accuser , virginia giuffre, who said she was forced to have relations him when she was just years old. now, to be fair, andrew has strongly protested his on that. no problem , he may have been no problem, he may have been stitched up. my good pal socialite lady victoria hervey thinks just that's and she told me as much on this very show last month who knows either way

his behaviour has been below par for top royal and he hasn't shown an ounce of contrition for the embarrassment he's brought to his family and to his country . and why is he thinking of writing a book? it can't be. this is a man who never has to work again . not that he did this is a man who never has to work again. not that he did in the first place. if he does go ahead with this and he keeps more shame on the family king, charles should throw the book at him. there's only one positive if old, randi, and he does put pen to paper, releases a book. you'll never to worry about toilet roll shortage . yes. toilet roll shortage. yes. because like the prince himself , this worthless tome will be going right down the royal plughole . that said, it shift plughole. that said, it shift a few copies in the children's section of your local waterstones . so rumours abound .

waterstones. so rumours abound. prince andrew is to write tell all autobiography reaction market gb news .uk. let's get the view of top royal biographer , author and historian tom bower. hi, tom. how you doing ? bower. hi, tom. how you doing? first of all, if he does write book, will it sell ? well, it book, will it sell? well, it depends what, he says. if he does the as harry and paul scored on his family on the king, it will sell , scored on his family on the king, it will sell, because there'll be enormous interest in his in his sludge. i mean, in the end, it depends how deep he wants to go , his own past. if wants to go, his own past. if it's just a book about saying i'm innocent, clearly not. but i think that he has looked across at harry to sell, what, three or 4 million books made a huge amount of money and encouraged by his ex—wife, fergie thinks i should do the same . the trouble should do the same. the trouble with trouble with andrew is he's a fantasist . and not only that,

a fantasist. and not only that, he's insensitive to his plight. he really does believe that. he's innocent . he can't believe he's innocent. he can't believe that. he's innocent. he can't believe that . what people think about that. what people think about him is so arrogant that he's immune to it . and he feels also immune to it. and he feels also he's got a and the is that when he's got a and the is that when he bought the house, he sold the house and moved into the lodge. he used the money from sale of the house to the kazakhs to refurbish the lodge in windsor park. he also was given a 78 year lease and doesn't see why he should be forced out of the house when he's legally the third occupant anyway. and that's the problem. he's a man on a mission to get revenge against his brother. now, of course, andrew has had a longer life than prince harry and has seen more on within royal circle . so potentially a prince andrew

book could be infinite , ugly, book could be infinite, ugly, more damaging than harry's ? more damaging than harry's? well, i think and another perspective , i mean, this is all perspective, i mean, this is all now becoming . it's not just a now becoming. it's not just a bookis now becoming. it's not just a book is a book with a purpose . book is a book with a purpose. and i think that he looks at his brother, the king, and that charles hasn't dealt in suppressing harry and meghan . suppressing harry and meghan. and he thinks harry and meghan can away with it then so can . can away with it then so can. what do we know of andrew and relationship here, the two. it's pretty bad . i mean there's very pretty bad. i mean there's very little to like andrew while worked very hard and had lots of intellectual other interests and had an agenda for change and all sorts of improvements, and sometimes controversy. andrew spent his whole has spent his whole life after leaving the army air force enjoying himself and being very rude to people

and being very rude to people and being very vulgar and being and being very vulgar and being a actually quite obnoxious . and a actually quite obnoxious. and that's the problem . he always that's the problem. he always thinks that he deserves better and more, but works to prove he should be given more. and of course , when he was a trade course, when he was a trade representative of britain travelling around the world what came out in, a whole lot of leaked memoranda, messages , leaked memoranda, messages, emails was how unbelievably vulgar and rude he was everywhere . and he hasn't done everywhere. and he hasn't done himself any good with his relationship with fergie . and relationship with fergie. and his daughters have done very and he wasted a vast amount of money buying a house in the swiss alps, which was then forced to . alps, which was then forced to. i mean, he's unfortunately been a catastrophe . was he spoilt by a catastrophe. was he spoilt by late queen? is he monster of his mother's making ? well, he's mother's making? well, he's undoubtedly of his making. i

think most is probably a bit too harsh. he is a casualty? he is person who really needed a good education and some strict upbringing and some guidance of to a proper job. he's a perfect to a properjob. he's a perfect example of why the modern age royals should get a proper job royals should get a properjob and a proper of responsibility . and a proper of responsibility. like his sister, princes and who is a exemplary example of working royal as charles and as is edward . the problem with is edward. the problem with andrew is , he's never really andrew is, he's never really done anything . he can't do done anything. he can't do anything. he just himself and has it brings just discredit on the royal family and is determined to push himself back into the public view. i mean having been told to retire from pubuc having been told to retire from public view , he brought shame on public view, he brought shame on the royal family. he's actually determined to ignore those and he's encouraged in that by his

wife who ex—wife , unfortunately. wife who ex—wife, unfortunately. are we being a little harsh on him, though, tom? after all, he served in the falklands, many would argue, including his friend , socialite lady victoria friend, socialite lady victoria hervey . he's friend, socialite lady victoria hervey. he's been friend, socialite lady victoria hervey . he's been stitched up by hervey. he's been stitched up by virginia giuffre, perhaps giving this guy a bad rap. virginia giuffre, perhaps giving this guy a bad rap . well, mark, this guy a bad rap. well, mark, after your introduction. i didn't see any any temper temper ism in your introduction . i ism in your introduction. i mean, i think you've got it perfectly right. no, i mean, the falklands was 30 years ago . and falklands was 30 years ago. and his relationship with jeffrey epstein was absolutely outrageous . i mean, and his outrageous. i mean, and his interview with on newsnight showed how he didn't understand the horror of , showed how he didn't understand the horror of, his conduct. to go back to epstein's house after had been convicted and serve to his the peter wasn't just bad judgement , his the peter wasn't just bad judgement, but it was self—indulgent beyond belief. it was that he really is a figure

who just wants to live off other people and like the idea of epstein introducing him to yet more girls . i mean, he epstein introducing him to yet more girls. i mean, he is a disgraceful person . and instead disgraceful person. and instead of writing and disappearing he had been asked to do by charles is now clearly doing the exact opposite and that is charles's problem on the one hand he's got harry who is causing endless problems . and on the other, he's problems. and on the other, he's got prince andrew , as i would got prince andrew, as i would say, i it's the madhouse . say, i it's the madhouse. eliot's in the house of windsor at the moment. and charles needs to take grip, a very firm grip and is failing to do at the moment, because that's the only way in which andrew will be pushed back into his box. tom delighted to have you on the program. tom bower, of course, best selling author. his latest book all about meghan markle book is all about meghan markle , a bestseller. go buy it and find why. thanks, tom. your reaction is there any way back to public life for prince andrew if he writes an altered , will if he writes an altered, will you will you read it?

you buy it? will you read it? well, believe, maria, we've well, i believe, maria, we've got results in. put out got the results in. we put out a text poll , the program, ask text poll, the program, to ask whether you would be interested in a book by prince andrew about his life. will you buy it was ? his life. will you buy it was? the question. oh, dear, bad . the question. oh, dear, bad. 93.8% say no. and 6.2% say they might give it a go . there's might give it a go. there's always hope. thank folks. lots more to come . the government's more to come. the government's crackdown on social behaviour work. we'll be asking former home office minister ann widdecombe. she's tonight's newsmaker and she's .

just it's just wsfime just it's time now for the newsmaker in which we tackle a big story of day in the company of a fearless commentator. tonight, people who vandalise public spaces will to repair the damage they cause , within 48 hours of

they cause, within 48 hours of being given an order under government plans. communities will also have a say on offenders are punished . the offenders are punished. the pilot scheme covering ten areas aims to show the public such acts quickly and visibly . the acts quickly and visibly. the pilot forms part a crackdown on anti—social which the prime minister rishi sunak will announce tomorrow as he says he hopes to end the scourge of anti—social behaviour once and for all. but will it work? who better to ask than former prisons minister , bestselling prisons minister, bestselling author and television personality ann widdecombe? high on ann widdecombe, high on hello . and what's your reaction to these latest measures to tackle anti—social behaviour with very visible . well they sound good visible. well they sound good but we've had this we've had before we've had people having to wear the top on saying community payback and all this sort of thing. we've had before what really matters is that

people who indulge in anti—social behaviour and particularly those who are doing it repeatedly and causing a misery for neighbours that , they misery for neighbours that, they are actually dealt with . i mean are actually dealt with. i mean the key to appreciate is saying here is in the word quickly , here is in the word quickly, i'll believe it when it happens . i think it's a good idea. i'll believe it when it happens . i think it's a good idea . it . i think it's a good idea. it isn't anything that we haven't had before. and frankly depends on the sheer willpower of the local police . and given that are local police. and given that are a former home office , can you a former home office, can you explain to my viewers and listeners why tackling this so called low level crime is so important ? called low level crime is so important? it's important because it really does make people's lives a misery . i have people's lives a misery. i have seen some of those very big inner city council estates where people are just subject to vandalism . and to graffiti. they vandalism. and to graffiti. they wake up in the morning, somebody is flat. often they come back at night. this graffiti all around

and sometimes it's just loud behaviour which is threatening if you particularly if you're elderly or if you're on your own. and it makes people's lives a misery. that is why is important to tackle it. quite honestly, the police have never really put this very high up their agenda . what about tougher their agenda. what about tougher sentence sentences ? i wouldn't sentence sentences? i wouldn't mind saying tougher sentences, but what i'd really like to see is householders being respected. i mean, if somebody out and challenges these thugs , you challenges these thugs, you know, and if then fisticuffs result, it's householder who then gets prosecuted . it's an then gets prosecuted. it's an easy arrest, doesn't it? is an easy arrest, doesn't it? is an easy box to pick. easy arrest, doesn't it? is an easy box to pick . now, easy arrest, doesn't it? is an easy box to pick. now, i would like to see householder is given much more protection on the much more with them that if there is a nuisance and there's no police , they can go out and, deal with it. i'm not suggesting they go out and into fights, but they can go out and they can challenge and that those people should then be dealt with. and

so the house on living dealt with. now and with it come out on monday , beginning of the on monday, beginning of the week. you attended a press conference in which you announced your support for reform uk at the next general election. why because i've given up heavily now with the conservatives, largely as a result. in fact, recently entirely as a result of the betrayal of northern ireland. i mean, what we had was a terrible deal negotiated by theresa may, bofis deal negotiated by theresa may, boris came along with big promises about getting brexit done. he tinkered with that deal and drew a border down the irish sea. we've now got rishi tinkering with the tinkering and again pronouncing it as a great victory when the easy fact to check is that the eu will still have power in northern ireland and storm despite all the talk of the stormont brake won't be able to do a thing about because that break is etched about with too many qualifications and even

if it was successful , the eu if it was successful, the eu would then be entitled to some compensation for us. why don't we going to get the understanding that leaving eu means that the whole uk leaves , means that the whole uk leaves, the eu? we don't give it jurisdiction and one part of ourselves. could your support for reform uk backfire as a lifelong conservative active? are you not concerned that reform uk could hand the of number 10 to keir starmer ? well number 10 to keir starmer? well i don't want to see keir starmer in number 10, but quite honestly, the conservatives of almost certainly lost the next election anyway and it's no good doing this. we did this before the brexit party stood down against all the conservative candidates in order to get brexit done. brexit hasn't done. we've been betrayed once , not we've been betrayed once, not falling for that a second time. but if had to choose, would you take sunak over? starmer starmer 7 take sunak over? starmer starmer ? labour quite honestly, there's not much difference . now we've

not much difference. now we've got a deeply red party and, this country, and we've got a pale pink party in this country. and there is truly conservative apart from reform. now operating in this country and, what can be achieved by reform uk in the absence of proportional ? oh, i absence of proportional? oh, i think i mean , think two things. think i mean, think two things. first of all, i think the mere fact that we're here and that we're going to stand in every single seat in the next i mean, i think that itself is an enormous warning shot across the tory. now, they know we want certain things. we want more than ireland fully reintegrated into the united kingdom . we want into the united kingdom. we want brexit done . we want lower taxes brexit done. we want lower taxes . they know what we want and know that we will stand against someone unless they do it and i mean, i think there that pressure, but also this no we haven't got personal representation and i don't want us to have representation but nevertheless . that's the one

nevertheless. that's the one advantage of keir starmer this he doesn't frighten people corbyn frightened people . people corbyn frightened people. people were saying to me in the last election on the doorstep and we'd love to vote for you, but we're afraid of letting corbyn in. they're not afraid of letting starmer in. and so it not inconceivable that they will give their votes to third parties because they're so fed up with the major ones that up with both the major ones that we will. i'm not suggesting can form a government, but we will get seats and that we will have power in westminster. however labour government would be far more. you're a file than any concern . active government under concern. active government under rishi. don't forget the leader of the opposition campaigned to reverse brexit and you can live with him in number 10. i can't live with either of them in number 10. don't tell me that are more pro—brexit than than the labour. the conservatives have exactly what they are believing, which they still believe in the. i mean, why is rishi sunak pouring money into

the coffers of macron when hasn't delivered anything in terms of stopping the boats in return for previous lots of money. why is he actually giving the eu in northern ireland that is not brexit. that really isn't brexit. so don't talk to me about oh, the conservatives are far more in favour of brexit than labour, neither of them have a clue when it comes to brexit. we were slightly concerned about sound issues before interview, but ann widdecombe is in full voice and i look forward catching up in a week's time . former conservative week's time. former conservative government home office minister and bestselling author and television personality and now the jewel in the crown of reform uk. d0 the jewel in the crown of reform uk. do you agree with that ? that uk. do you agree with that? that reform could make a difference at the next election ? a truly at the next election? a truly properly conservative option? let me no market gb news .uk. we've got the papers next with full pundit reaction . go full pundit reaction. go

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i mean, do you think it's exactly 1030 it's time for tomorrow's papers . maria, where tomorrow's papers. maria, where should we start ? okay, let's go should we start? okay, let's go to the express. first of all, actually, let's have a stink. come on. and there is the daily express . tory rebels fight to express. tory rebels fight to close micra st loophole tory rebels have urged rishi sunak to close every legal loophole allows foreign judges to interfere britain's borders ministers rushed it to quell a backbench revolt ahead of the illegal migration bill's passing through parliament. yes can harry scores as england beat ukraine next the telegraph pm targets beggars in crackdown on crime rishi sunak is to launch crackdown on begging as he announces a war on anti—social

behaviour, a topic i raised with ann widdecombe just a moment ago . pm will unveil a series of new powers allowing police to move on rough sleepers move on rough sleepers who are causing distress. this could include people who are blocking shop doorways, asking for money at cash machines , or leaving their cash machines, or leaving their belongings on sturgeon's boosts labour's chances , say the labour's chances, say the telegraph. nicola sturgeon's departure from office will help keir starmer become prime minister. according to the scottish labour leader, anas sarwar told the telegraph's chopper's politics podcast that when stands down as first minister tomorrow, it will make in some ways life easier for labour to achieve a government safe routes to be opened for 20,000 migrants a year is the other story. the telegraph, the guardian nhs chiefs sound alarm on spiralling staff . guardian nhs chiefs sound alarm on spiralling staff. laughing gaspsin on spiralling staff. laughing gasps in sunak as both crack

down and mississippi devastated a ferocious tornado the eye newspaper sunak moves to calm tory nerves ahead of crunch vote on small boats. the faces a rebellion of up to 60 tory mp lees who want to toughen up its flagship illegal migration bill as it the commons. the independent's ukrainian fans make their voices heard. rishi we need f16s . a message for the we need f16s. a message for the prime minister. yesterday at england's two nil wembley euro qualifier win over ukraine also revealed britain's organ donor crisis. a woman receiving end of life care says she's just waiting to die as an agonising three year wait for a kidney transplant has left her living like a prisoner. this woman is among some 7000 patients on the waiting list, the highest figure for a decade . the met chair now for a decade. the met chair now bippy for a decade. the met chair now hippy crack down. we're back to the asbos folks laughing gas known as hippy will be banned

from sale the public in a clampdown on yes you guessed it anti—social behaviour. michael gove said the increasing scourge in which young people inhale nitrous oxide oxide from metal through a balloon was turning p09s through a balloon was turning pogs into drug taking arenas that leave others feeling unsafe . the times over 800 sewage spills a day. this is all part of the times is clean it up water raw sewage was into rivers and coastal areas across england more than 300,000 times last year , despite a fall in the year, despite a fall in the overall of spills problem is a puppet for tory. suella braverman is accused of secretly backing a backbench rebellion against her illegal migration bill to push downing street , bill to push downing street, toughening measures to tackle the small boats crisis which could involve tearing up the european convention on human rights . pointless tests are rights. pointless tests are delaying care, nhs is warned .

delaying care, nhs is warned. last but not least for now the daily star , the waiter for cast. daily star, the waiter for cast. oh poor blimey , it's going to oh poor blimey, it's going to rain cats and, dogs, a 150 mile an hour jet stream will bring an hourjet stream will bring torrential storms . those weather torrential storms. those weather boffins are giving it some welly a deluge of rain is heading our . things can only get wetter and thatis . things can only get wetter and that is the daily stuff giving us some much needed levity. let's be honest. let's get reaction now to the big stories of the day tomorrow , front pages of the day tomorrow, front pages with columnist and broadcaster dr. angela epstein , legendary dr. angela epstein, legendary news journalist michael crick and leadership coach , author and and leadership coach, author and social commentator hayes. let's have a look at this story in express, michael, if we can, tory rebels fight to close migrants loophole. how does this one play out? well, this is all about about basically allowing or encouraging the british

government to ignore rulings of the european court of human rights, which is a political court and some would argue . court and some would argue. well, you would you might argue it's a political court. i'm not sure i would. and well, i mean, it spends plenty eu member states ignore , its verdicts and states ignore, its verdicts and indeed and indeed indeed british governments have ignored its rulings in the past. governments have ignored its rulings in the past . and i mean, rulings in the past. and i mean, i wouldn't say that was a wise thing do but it seems to me that you don't need. well i'm a lawyer and i don't understand i'm not into that area of law. but given that this our government and another governments have ignored their rulings the past i'm not sure rulings in the past i'm not sure it needs amendment the it needs an amendment to the immigration and the illegal immigration and the illegal immigration bill in order to do that. but maybe someone would be able to explain that to me and. in any case, how are they going to get this amendment through when labour would vote against it anyways? how are they going to an amendment like that to get an amendment like that through the house of commons?

well, right. the well, that's right. the government's lawyer, government's former top lawyer, robert this robert buckland, told me on this show tearing echr is show that tearing up the echr is a red herring. yeah. a complete red herring. yeah. yeah. and well, brings in yeah. and the well, it brings in so many wider issues and all, you know, we went into process after the war in to totality arianism to the 1920s and thirties and many of the principles behind are still highly important. then there are lawyers who think its its past its sell by date that it needs revisions , that it's an arcane revisions, that it's an arcane mechanism and this is all about fulfilling the will of the people which is the expressed wish of this government to stop the boats. that was in their manifesto in 2019 that they would control illegal immigration. so got immigration. so they've got a political mandate with which do it now. they've just got to get past the lawyers. well, i'm not sure that whatever the government does obey the labour government does obey the labour government or a conservative government or a conservative government to government is really going to stop boats or if it stop the stop the boats or if it stop the boats, then the people

traffickers and the migrants find another route into this country . after all, it's only country. after all, it's only a recent thing. the boats it four or five years before that they used to come in in lorries and that's scandal. the scanners came in all the oh they'll find different ways of getting you know across different sea lanes , know across different sea lanes i , know across different sea lanes , i think that is , whatever. so i think that is a bit of a, you know the whole thing about the law is might you know if you were to along with this know i still think you're going to stop the migrants coming . i going to stop the migrants coming. i just going to stop the migrants coming . i just they sound quite coming. i just they sound quite defeatist about it. yes. i say but but my view is and listeners, many of views are not blase and it interesting looking at some recent polling published by matt goodwin, who i'm sure you know professor politics at the university of kent . the vast the university of kent. the vast majority of the public support the of stopping illegal immigration into this country and it could be decisive . i and it could be decisive. i recognise that i recognise . go recognise that i recognise. go let's have a look. if you don't think stopping boats is important, you are you are in the 16% who don't. according to goodwin's latest . well, i do

goodwin's latest. well, i do think it is important, but what i'm saying is i'm not sure anybody's with the anybody's come up with the solution. think it's also solution. i do think it's also important to allow genuine asylum seekers into this country. the trouble , the country. the trouble, the cross—channel at the cross—channel traffic at the moment it's people jumping to moment is it's people jumping to the front of the queue and getting into this country ahead of much more deserving cases. these tory rebels they just want to stop the boats and most of the british people. epstein agree with them. yes, i do. i mean, i think part of the problem is that it's not a terribly all right time thing to say to sort of say, i don't want these people here because our natural humanity that something has to be done. but equally you've got these heinous people, traffickers taking people, taking people's money, bringing them across these icy cold waters, had drownings. we've also had people who don't deserve refugee status deserve the refugee status coming from places like albania , men who are clearly not fleeing persecution or or fear violence. and germany won't accept . yeah, absolutely . accept. yeah, absolutely. absolutely. and you also have to

look the ramifications for the local communities who who have to support their infrastructures, have to support the influx of refugees. you know, lots of us have who have immigrant backgrounds. know, lots of us have who have immigrant backgrounds . you know, immigrant backgrounds. you know, it's not that we don't recognise the role that the very important role that immigrants this country. immigrants have in this country. my grandfather here at the turn of the century escaping , of the century escaping, persecution. have to persecution. but we have to a new model so it's all very well to say deal with the laws but as michael what when they michael what happens when they get we need a way get here, we need to find a way theatre the tories. michael theatre from the tories. michael might suggest the tide is turning. i think as you said, mark, your public opinion firmly behind stopping these boats . and behind stopping these boats. and michael asked, you know how we've got to stop it some way. will you stop the business? these migrants migrants are paying these migrants migrants are paying 5000 to £7000 sterling to come on these boats. you stop happening. and that's the business for case will soon collapse . so we've got to do collapse. so we've got to do something and you know i've always said because this come back to the brexit argument ofsted right the start there were of staying in the were benefits of staying in the eu, there was benefits of leaving but there was no

benefits in leaving without fully all the fully leveraging all the benefits . and whilst we're tied benefits. and whilst we're tied with hcr, i see how we with the say hcr, i see how we can sort of avoid sort of these battles . michael crick laughing battles. michael crick laughing gas to be will you miss it. battles. michael crick laughing gas to be will you miss it . you gas to be will you miss it. you would if you're having a made up. no just you need it you're naturally jolly. that's yeah yeah yeah. well again this is this is clear messaging from number 10 is that we're going to tackle this social. yes. i mean, basically they're lining up all the issues for next delay. the issues for the next delay. most the front pages, most of the front pages, it's like, yeah, all of this like, no, no. yeah, all of this all this cracking down on all of this cracking down on antisocial behaviour we want antisocial behaviour of we want to down antisocial to crack down on antisocial behaviour, i haven't really behaviour, but i haven't really heard anything from the conservatives from labour conservatives or from labour which , just convinces that which, just convinces me that that ever going to happen and frankly there aren't enough police to do this in most places. i mean , there aren't places. i mean, there aren't enough police to with enough police to deal with serious crimes. well that's serious crimes. well that that's something too that's busy on the onune something too that's busy on the online hate crimes. that's the police are taking the or police are taking the knee or things part things like that. i think part of the is that what

of the problem is that what saying is i'm not i'm not discussing whether one should take the knee or not. i'm saying been much sort of aspect been so much sort of aspect given to the fact they've been involved in lots of bandwagon. it's sort of bleeding causes as opposed neighbourhood opposed to neighbourhood policing which has broken down. we don't have local police stations anymore. we don't have bobbies the beat. so all these initiatives great. but like you say, who's going to actually bnng say, who's going to actually bring them into effect? so i mean, it's not the mean, it's oxide. it's not the stuff have when you're stuff you have when you're having a baby. it's a different thing mark. i think it's quite funny. think actually i funny. i think i actually i should team about that. should ask my team about that. i'm if to say i'm not sure if it's to say i mean, i remember breathing in when we had my two sons. yeah and it put me in a good place, but yeah, me too. this lot but yeah, me too. with this lot with are so horrible with you are so horrible because i listening watching i those listening or watching don't know that it's those little canisters that you little metal canisters that you see the. yeah they are see on the. yeah and they are a scourge and it's not nice for people to take the kids to the park, for walk with the park, go for a walk with the dog, see people inhaling this stuff. it's stuff. yeah yeah, yeah. it's a broken society. it really is.

yeah let's move on yeah okay, well let's move on now chiefs adrian. sound now to nhs chiefs adrian. sound alarm on spiralling staff shortages, the crisis calls for radical home grown recruitment drive to avoid a shortfall of half a million nhs staff within the next 13 years. yeah okay. i don't want to sell anytime soon. well, you know, this story is one us but the nhs we could go into whole areas of the whole issue of the we've got the staff shortage problem people are we've got the huge apc problem, excess deaths are higher than they have been for many years or for four or five years. we need the staff and. i'm as i said , the staff and. i'm as i said, i'm pro sort of controlling immigration. but if we need i'm pro sort of controlling immigration . but if we need the immigration. but if we need the staff, if we need fruit pickers, if we need nurses, if we need porters and brits don't want to do the work, then we have to recruit services. angela epstein that isn't there. that is the tension isn't there. there's between there's a clear link between economic and of migration economic and levels of migration , but the public want to cut the numbers, but it could impact the

economy. and as seeing here pubuc economy. and as seeing here public public health public public public health and public services . yeah, i mean the look, services. yeah, i mean the look, it's the old adage it's been the old adage that it's been the old adage that it's jobs went to the to it's the jobs went to the to people there were jobs we didn't want to do you the classic situation the demographic was very clearly that i there are lots of problems with with within nhs not just the kind within the nhs not just the kind of shop floor jobs right up through you know all the skills of if you talk to son's of medicine if you talk to son's a young doctor if you talk to those looking the advanced training their training training for their training there many doctors for so there are so many doctors for so few speciality posts which is ridiculous because . we need ridiculous because. we need these powers. we need the expertise . you're all free. but expertise. you're all free. but none of you have discussed yet. doesn't well to you that actually if you pay people a lot less than they were earning 50 years ago, if you pay junior doctors 35% less than they were earning 15 years ago then is it any surprise that it's the same . yeah, it's the same in schools. exactly so why is medical schools oversubscribed ?

medical schools oversubscribed? there are so many capable young people who apply for medical schools who don't get positions at the medical school. so it's not i don't think that's driving force. if it goes well , the force. if it goes well, the medical schools aren't big enough , but we are still taking enough, but we are still taking far many people from far too many people from overseas. the long term to overseas. and the long term to this to train our doctors and this is to train our doctors and nurses in this from the existing population rather than taking relying on foreign labour from overseas all the time , depleting overseas all the time, depleting the health services of , many of the health services of, many of the health services of, many of the many parts of the developing . if the nhs paid less to it, i think it's 8000 people and the waste in the nhs and pay more to the doctors nurses that would just half solve the problem but 8000 people working on it. i think it's half figures. i'm not sure even if you were to get rid of all of those people, it would make a huge amount for the doctors. what the junior doctors want, 35. well, why is he stuck to they were? the to where they were? where's the money come from? money supposed to come from? i agree you. a really agree with you. it's a really job a junior doctor, is job being a junior doctor, is it? i wouldn't want to do it,

but where does the money has to be a term commitment to that be a term commitment to get that paid levels back paid those pay levels back because. people leaving in because. people are leaving in their . and do you know their droves. and do you know what do you want to give up on the health service you want say right. but people sort right. but people have sort themselves you themselves out or do you actually preserve the actually want to preserve the health restore it to health service, restore it to its its previous health and pay people properly ? coming up, people properly? coming up, we've lots stories . the we've got lots more stories. the papers my amazing pundits papers with my amazing pundits and agree we are and i, you'll agree we are travelling class with travelling business class with adrian michael and angela adrian and of michael and angela . we'll be looking at the scandal . over 800 sewage spills, scandal. over 800 sewage spills, a day class should private schools be clobbered with vat . schools be clobbered with vat. is that a better way to make our society more equal? is it appropriate to breastfeed in a swimming ? appropriate to breastfeed in a swimming? and we'll discuss appropriate to breastfeed in a swimming ? and we'll discuss who swimming? and we'll discuss who . scotland's first minister is going to be that's tomorrow plus we got the mail coming as well don't go anywhere .

more front pages and i think we've got the mail now let's have a look at what the mail newspaper are leading with sex offenders let off crimes just by saying sorry an absolute scandal on the front of the mail. speaking of scandal, let's have a look at the front page of times. over 800 sewage spills a day. water firms to publish time data in a victory for the times newspaper's campaign to clean up britain's sea and seas and river ways. your reaction to this horrible story, adrian? well i take my hat off for the times, for highlighting this because i've been saying for quite a few years now, a couple of years is all other environmental issues. i'm coming from environmentalist , all these environmental issues which are serious are being sacrificed on the altar of the quasi religion that is net zero and they're being ignored, whether it's resource depletion,

whether it's resource depletion, whether it's resource depletion, whether it's deforestation with its sewage , etc, etc, etc. and its sewage, etc, etc, etc. and i'd love to see just stop all protesters putting their placard , putting just stop sewage and glueing themselves to the river test. in hampshire, where i live . and perhaps we can have some more, you know, more publicity and more against these on these hidden environmental issues which are being ignored. i do think the green lobby are guilty of double standards . a woman of double standards. a woman was breastfeeding her baby in the swimming pool this week. a pool attendant her to move closer to attendant her to move closer to a filter, you know with the drain is in case the baby was sick she claimed it was discriminate asians. so it begs the question should women breastfeed in swimming pools? angela, you've got kids . angela, you've got kids. definitely. i breastfed all all my children. not recently . and i my children. not recently. and i think just because it is a wonderfully natural , if you can wonderfully natural, if you can do it, not all women can have issues with it. it can give a baby a fantastic start, a lovely, intimate thing to do . lovely, intimate thing to do. all the things that are probably very well documented, it doesn't

mean that it is your absolute to do it anywhere anyhow . that you do it anywhere anyhow. that you please just because it's of those things. i think when you're in a public place i think you're in a public place i think you have to have consideration for everybody around you. i think you have to have consideration for the baby , for consideration for the baby, for you and not sort of take on this minded approach, say because, you know, breast is best and mother's pride and it's a thing to do that i can do this anywhere want. i don't think that i think we to be sensitive to everybody else around us as well. swimming pool is a public other people are using it . yes, other people are using it. yes, the baby might have projectile vomiting might have vomiting. it might just have a bit reflux . vomiting. it might just have a bit reflux. i don't want vomiting. it might just have a bit reflux . i don't want to bit of reflux. i don't want to swim in a pool with breast milk in, you know and i'm in, you know that. and i'm a great believer in breastfeeding . it's absolutely . i think it's absolutely selfish women it. what selfish when women it. what about house commons who about the house of commons who was? a labour mp stella creasy. stella creasy. yes, which i thought could thought perhaps baby could projectile the house. projectile vomit over the house. think might be quite think that might be quite suitable, it suitable, but but yes. is it suitable, but but yes. is it suitable place ? think it's suitable place? think it's rather look at me and my baby

breastfeeding. you given breastfeeding. have you given this thought, michael? i haven't, i agree with andrew haven't, but i agree with andrew on this. seems to me that on this. it seems to me that well from what i've of breastfeeding it can be quite a messy business and you know i think we want surplus milk in pool think we want surplus milk in pool. no, we don't. but i think the other thing is very quickly, i would say is that breastfeed ing mothers that become very militant, i heard them, we got they've been called the breast which is very unfortunate and they take what they call brownface which is pictures of themselves breastfeeding babies. they to be minded and say they do it to be minded and say because breast is best, i'm going to do it anyway without considering a difference in with them, with breastfeeding and all sorts just think sorts other places. i just think in this particular instance it's where where would you draw the line costa coffee, the sir alex ferguson stand at manchester united . that's fine by me, but united. that's fine by me, but because, you know, it doesn't create a mess that goes all over the people. okay, that's fair enough. and i can't trouble

can't disagree with that. no, no, listen, no one gets cancelled on my watch. michael let me tell you, i respect you. i'm worried about that. that's a good point. research from the independent council independent schools council shows vat on school fees shows that if vat on school fees is introduced under a labour government, 25% of independents school pupils will move to the state sector. keir starmer and labour plan to put vat on private schools. so what do we think? could it backfire? michael i think it could because i think the 25% figure is a bit high . you know, it might be ten, high. you know, it might be ten, 15% who would go to the state sector. but in certain areas like inner london or parts of manchester, that would put a severe strain on the state schools, they would have to open new classrooms, build new classrooms and all of that. there's another factor as well, which is that these schools in order to maintain their charitable status, have to do sorts of good works like allowing , you know, encouraging allowing, you know, encouraging some of their teachers of their pupils to help out at state schools, state schools that may

help do , say, latin or greek, help do, say, latin or greek, say , and facilities well say, and facilities well assisted places . yeah, all of assisted places. yeah, all of those things. and they're not they're no longer charity regardless they may be outside of that. we're not also thinking about parents, you know, not all parents who their kids to public schools and private schools are posh loaded people they are they're often people who think i'm working really hard and i want spend my money on giving my child the best education they can get should suddenly can get and should they suddenly be out of the market? you be priced out of the market? you know, the politics envy. know, it's the politics envy. and absolutely hate kind and i absolutely hate that kind . and very quickly, mark, we're struggling schools, struggling with state schools, hospitals, everything hospitals, staffing everything you you. hospitals, staffing everything you you . another factor you put to you. another factor in that's going make even in that's going to make even worse, going to backfire worse, it's going to backfire there listen, folks , there you go. listen, folks, tonight didn't backfire. what a thrill to have michael. crick, adrian hayes angela , adrian hayes and angela, brilliant pundits tonight do it all again on friday at eight. headliners is next. good evening . name's rachel ayres and welcome your latest weather update from the met office. now looking ahead to next week,

going to be quite a cold start tomorrow, but becoming increasingly and this is due to an area of high pressure that's going to make its way in from the northwest to become centred over the uk by the time we get monday morning clearing away that low pressure we've seen over the weekend but back to two nights and we'll see some showers around and eastern coast in particular through this evening but cloud will start to quite readily break up for quite a harsh and frost across scotland northern ireland and northern england. and we could see some icy stretches to start monday down east and coasts. now further south and that will be a patchy around them. maybe the old bit of mist and fog too as well as the odd shower. but this will clear through monday morning to leave a fine dry for many and bright with plenty of a lengthy sunny throughout the day . there'll be a bit more in the way of cloud in the south west, but there will be some sunny spells too. and within these be feeling pleasant even though

temperatures won't be much higher what we've higher than what we've seen today as into monday today as we go into monday evening. and with those clear around a frost will start to down northern eastern coast in particular. now looking further west, we've got the next low pressure making its way in from the atlantic bringing in increased cloud and outbreaks of as well. so here temperatures will actually rise through the night. but as we get to tuesday morning, we could still have a patchy frost further north and east through tuesday morning, we will see that cloud and rain making its way northwards and this could bring some hail snow to particularly over scotland . to particularly over scotland. we might just see a touch of snow over northern england to . snow over northern england to. and that really sets the theme for the rest of the week with unsettled weather not going too far away , but milder far away, but milder temperatures too, especially from midweek .