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gary lineker has been sidelined from match of the day in a row over impartiality . good morning. over impartiality. good morning. and 6:00 on the 11th of march, this is breakfast on gb news with stephen and ellie . these with stephen and ellie. these are the top stories this morning. and the bbc has suspended gary lineker for match of the day after he criticised the government's asylum policies. the programme will air without a studio presenter or pundh without a studio presenter or pundit at the moment after its regular commentators said they stand in solidarity with lineker, the uk is to fund a new
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detention centre in france to tackle small boat channel crossings . the prime minister crossings. the prime minister and the french president have agreed to a £480 million payout over the next three years to help tackle the ongoing crisis . help tackle the ongoing crisis. and later this morning, we're going to be talking to an astronomer about the rise of space junk science says the calling to protect earth's orbit or low orbit, at least from the dangers of decommissioned satellites left out in space. and as ever, you can join in any of our discussions this morning, and we're going to be having a lot of them, aren't we.7 there's lot of them, aren't we? there's lots we are. so there's loads we've got loads of time to talk to you, so get in touch. yes that's gary lineker of the bbc. made right asking made the right decision asking him let us know. him to step back, let us know. gb views that gb news .uk . and gb views that gb news .uk. and as we've just been saying, gary lineker is to step back from
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presenting match of the day following his row with the bbc over his politicised tweets. well the broadcaster says he won't present the programme until he's reached an agreed and clear position with the corporation over his use of social media. well the announcement was followed by fellow pundits ian wright and alan shearer saying they also would not appear on saturday's programme in solidarity with lineker. okay that's also our very own aidan magee lee, who's here in the studio with us this morning . good morning to you morning. good morning to you both. what you're looking to all of this, i mean, is it a storm in a teacup there a valid point here. it's more than a storm in a teacup. i've never seen anything like this. i mean, this is show has been is 60 years this show has been going. it pulls in an audience of between 11 15 million on of between 11 and 15 million on a night, depending a saturday night, depending on who's so mean, we who's playing. so i mean, are we seeing become seeing an institution become toxic within hours last night that appears to be what happened. from what i was saying yesterday, saw first of all, yesterday, we saw first of all, lineker pulling it off, being pulled away by the bbc from the duties. pulled away by the bbc from the dufies.then
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pulled away by the bbc from the duties. then having said earlier today or yesterday that he'd be he'd willing to do the show he'd be willing to do the show yesterday and then alan yesterday morning and then alan shearer pulls out in right. pulls services, pundits gone pulls out services, pundits gone are pundits who may have are the pundits who may have been asked to fill there, been asked to fill in there, said going do it. said they're not going to do it. dermot changing. they said if he'd been asked he wouldn't have been, have done been, i wouldn't even have done it. steve the it. and then steve wilson, the commentator, night said commentator, last night said this different. this this is this is different. this is this not just the is like this is not just the punditry analysis. it's between the between the matches. this is the between the matches. this is the is steve the actual commentator is steve wilson experience guy wilson from bbc experience guy saying, want to do it. saying, i don't want to do it. nobody else is doing they're nobody else is doing it. they're going fate or going to take the life, fate or the fate commentary. so the world fate commentary. so suddenly programme's suddenly the programme's making a of what it was a shell of what it was previously is, i think, a 60 is of celebration year. these of celebration next year. these rights you have to rights as well. you have to remember paid bbc remember these are paid for bbc paid to £211 million over three seasons. premier league seasons. the premier league aren't going to be happy about this. are rumours as well. this. there are rumours as well. it's at the moment. this. there are rumours as well. it's last at the moment. this. there are rumours as well. it's last night at the moment. this. there are rumours as well. it's last night it at the moment. this. there are rumours as well. it's last night it wasthe moment. this. there are rumours as well. it's last night it was surfacing nt. but last night it was surfacing that not talk to that players may not talk to match the day. today in the match of the day. today in the 3:00 kick offs or even the early the early evening kick offs, managers talk. could
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managers may not talk. it could be and i think it be go that far. and i think it could go could go further could go this could go further and i don't know how and further. i don't know how many agents and advisors and players be selling to players will be selling to change that if you change their clients that if you get match today, get offered to the match today, remember, do it right now. remember, don't do it right now. and the fall, fall and you see in the fall, fall from grace huge programme, from grace of a huge programme, one jewels in the bbc's one of the jewels in the bbc's crown in terms of what happens to gary lineker. full disclosure, i used to write a column for about from time column for news about from time to in 2010 good to time back in 2010 11. good guy, quy- to time back in 2010 11. good guy, sw a to time back in 2010 11. good guy, guy. a nice guy, really good guy. a nice father, son i was very father, son as well. i was very surprised he would get surprised that he would get embroiled in this because he never used to be interested in politics up until five six politics up until five or six years worry for him is years ago. my worry for him is that ever talks about his that nobody ever talks about his football he football career more. he was a magnificent player. magnificent england player. magnificent goals two magnificent ten goals in two world key goals. world cups. he scored key goals. big goals were not goals against panama warm game he scored panama in warm up game he scored against germany in against west germany in the semi—final. nobody talks about his more. his career any more. and i wonder if he's damaging his legacy from this. i think it was a career move five or a calculated career move five or six years ago for him to venture into the sphere of politics. i think saying, say, think somebody was saying, say, listen, knocking listen, gary, you're knocking on a you can't forever.
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a bit. you can't go on forever. maybe you need to start tweeting politics. these politics. that's the look these days.i politics. that's the look these days. i honestly think that sounds a little bit cynical, but i someone's him i do think someone's advised him to and when you do to do that. and when you do that, it's a risk reward thing. some with but some people agree with you, but a people don't. and a lot of people don't. and i think that most football fans but also it's not just that he's because he's tweeted about politics itself breaks the politics and itself breaks the impartiality guidelines that the bbc else who impartiality guidelines that the bbc for else who impartiality guidelines that the bbc for the else who impartiality guidelines that the bbc for the bbc. else who impartiality guidelines that the bbc for the bbc. i else who impartiality guidelines that the bbc for the bbc. i mean,a who impartiality guidelines that the bbc for the bbc. i mean, thiso works for the bbc. i mean, this is the thing. he seems to be the exception the rule. he is exception to the rule. he is but he's it's it's the fact he's he's it's but it's the fact that he referred to like comparing what to comparing what was now to germany. that's the germany. yeah. and that's the problem here. yes. is absolutely you know, you can broaden out and say it's not quite what he meant, but he hasn't really commented on the actual tweet itself. as he just said, he stands what he what he says. stands by what he what he says. and sometimes you can and i think sometimes you can force yourself position force yourself into position and not yourself having said not let yourself out having said that, 5050 in of that, this is 5050 in terms of where they where the where the pr right you know, what pr is right now. you know, what what you think the make what do you think the bbc make their decision it is their decision because it is interesting, it, that they their decision because it is interquiet, it, that they their decision because it is interquiet all it, that they their decision because it is interquiet all week. :hat they their decision because it is
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interquiet all week. nothing was kept quiet all week. nothing was said really by the bbc. and then last night we that he was last night we heard that he was asked go caribbean, asked to go in the caribbean, asked to go in the caribbean, asked to go in the caribbean, asked to back from match asked to step back from match of the day, though that the day, looks as though that end to war without a battle well, with no it's i think it's a little bit more of well, from a little bit more of well, from a point of view, i think they a pr point of view, i think they wanted holding position, ali. wanted a holding position, ali. you talksport you know, we saw talksport earlier and i had earlier in the season, and i had we our sky jamie we had our sky when jamie carragher spat a fan, they carragher spat at a fan, they just put him out to graze for a short period of time, edged him back, just like they did talksport david chosen clare back, just like they did talkslastt david chosen clare back, just like they did talkslast septembersen clare back, just like they did talkslast september when are back, just like they did talkslast september when he made back last september when he made those remarks those inflammatory remarks about the following just the queen following just just hours if you hours after her death. if you listen to talksport now, he's back. through the back. he's come in through the back. he's come in through the back is much, much back door. this is much, much bigger than either of those two. and carragher was big believe me. but is different. and me. but this is different. and i think hoping time think they were hoping this time yesterday, lose yesterday, okay, we don't lose gary he's a household gary lineker. he's a household name. think he's a very name. i do think he's a very good match day presenter. yes, he a lot of money, but he earns a lot of money, but that's the market these days. however, they should however, i think they should have not, have. think have not, should have. i think that this time that the plan this time yesterday been yesterday would have been because want to because i wonder if they want to bargain backlash that
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bargain for the backlash that they got up in the bargain on commentators saying downing tools. anyway the tools. so i think anyway the holding so holding position put him out. so great the season great until the end. the season is already sort of march and then go again maybe in august. i think that was probably what they thinking. they would have been thinking. they have been they would not have been bargaining what's happened. bargaining for what's happened. absolutely do absolutely not since. do you have production and have any idea how production and staff as staff are feeling as i understand today is told understand it, today is told that last night. you mean the on screen talent and said they don't to be a part of it, screen talent and said they don there'sto be a part of it, screen talent and said they don there's a be a part of it, screen talent and said they don there's a productionof it, screen talent and said they don there's a production team but there's a production team there to put there that will have to put things together but lower down the food chain, you go and you look earnings here. is look at earnings here. this is important. commentators important. those commentators can't work can't afford to stay out of work for long. i think i think for that long. i think i think on a one off basis, it's fine. production staff. absolutely no, i think they'd be in breach of contract, i a few contract, actually. i know a few people. somebody works people. i know somebody works ibd, to yesterday. ibd, i spoke to him yesterday. he wasn't he wasn't he wasn't mine down tools mine to sit down tools or anything like that. but but then isupposei anything like that. but but then i suppose i don't somebody somebody isn't on screen somebody who isn't on screen probably under the probably wouldn't be under the pressure that statement. pressure to make that statement. but think they can but i don't. so i think they can do a one off basis. we'll be do on a one off basis. we'll be interested. what's going to be
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fascinating tonight, the viewing figures, people figures, because a lot of people watch to support the watch in defiance to support the bbc and to as i said, nancy gary lineker statement if you like, a lot of people will boycott it. don't they between don't forget, they get between 11 that's what 11 and 12 million. that's what they they're £200 million they pay. they're £200 million over seasons for premier over three seasons for premier league. won't about league. won't be happy about that way, because, you that by the way, because, you know, want to see the know, they want to see the highlights packages it's not highlights packages the it's not a earner the a big money earner for the premier £211 million in premier league £211 million in the everything i get the context everything i get from and the overseas from sky and the overseas broadcast but it's broadcast rights, but it's strategic bbc strategic for me like the bbc because these guys watch because i know these guys watch their product, gets out there and watched a lot of and it's watched by a lot of people. we see the hidden people. so we see the hidden figures think we'll figures tonight. i think we'll see it. we'll see published see it. we'll see them published quite, quite soon. it'll be fascinating. never done fascinating. i've never done a story this in my life. story like this in my life. yeah, okay. adrian thanks very much indeed. well if you think is be shall of a is going to be a shall of a programme tonight and match of the looks like it is, the day and it looks like it is, to be fair, then i'll tell you what we've got for you. tune into gb views tonight, 10:00. okay. you can watch star okay. you can watch our star studded tentative of studded all tentative match of the dolan the day with mark dolan overnight. a call for that, i believe. you will. you
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believe. i'm sure you will. you probably you probably probably will. you probably will. can't on every will. but you can't be on every night but it is going to night on it. but it is going to be packed with star guests, with punst be packed with star guests, with pundits the of it. pundits and all the rest of it. so a proper football show so it's a proper football show tonight. so watch that at 10:00 instead. yeah something a bit different views actually different is your views actually on whole gary lineker thing on the whole gary lineker thing . interesting because . it's interesting because obviously what we like here is freedom of speech . the bbc works freedom of speech. the bbc works in a very different way and the impartiality thing. so does that mean should he have freedom of speech on twitter or should he actually follow the rules? everybody else within the corporation has to follow. he's the only one, really, who gets away with it. so is it fair to go with it that, you know , go with it that, you know, newsnight, n0 go with it that, you know, newsnight, no one shows up? hammond if it was just amanda and then she she's gone . she she and then she she's gone. she she left not long after, i mean, of her own volition , but she she her own volition, but she she left. so i mean , it will be left. so i mean, it will be interesting to see what agreement they come to and whether they manage perhaps to make a distinction between the fact he's not news
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fact that he's not a news journalist, he's a sports journalist. he thing. here is what like. and we don't know what i like. and we don't know what's in his contract. yeah, exactly. that is always exactly. that is as is always the key thing. the way. yeah that's key thing. let know you gb let us know what you think. gb views that gbnews.uk this the story that just keeps on getting bigger. that didn't story that just keeps on getting bigger. one that didn't story that just keeps on getting bigger. one coming. didn't story that just keeps on getting bigger. one coming. keeps1't story that just keeps on getting bigger. one coming. keeps on see this one coming. keeps on giving. it is 6:09. let's bring you up to date with what is you up to date with what else is going on today. and junior doctors the british doctors belonging to the british medical doctors belonging to the british mediino choice but to strike on have no choice but to strike on monday health monday after the health secretary not attend talks secretary did not attend talks on it off. steve on friday, it comes off. steve barclay said he wanted them to call off a planned three day walkout negotiate. nearly walkout and negotiate. nearly 40,000 voted to 40,000 junior doctors voted to take industrial action over demands for 35% pay rise. nhs england says more than 100,000 patients have been treated in virtual wards over the last yean virtual wards over the last year, having vital signs monitored remotely. medical bosses say the scheme has been a game changer. helping patients avoid unnecessary hospital trips and enabling them to be discharged sooner. the and enabling them to be discharged sooner . the met discharged sooner. the met office has issued a warning for
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snow remaining in place for much of scotland over the weekend. it comes as the scottish fire and rescue service also issued an alert about the risk of wildfires as fire officials say dry winter conditions can create the deal's circumstances for wildfires to spread . so snow and wildfires to spread. so snow and wildfires to spread. so snow and wildfires for scotland this is proper. that is proper crisis. yeah, actually. well, i'm not there are any wildfires at the moment, but there are that alert. you wouldn't have thought. and that was the time of year you had to be particularly aware of it all with but creates with you. but it creates tinderbox conditions. i wouldn't have something have thought we learn something new every day. you do. so if you're in you're out and about in scotland, careful. be scotland, be very careful. be careful if you're driving, especially up in the north of the that snow the country, because that snow we've last few days, we've had the last few days, it's a of ice on top. it's now a layer of ice on top. so is a warning today so there is a warning today about driving in the north. so you be careful out on those roads. is where
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roads. the problem is where i live, so south midlands, it was minus three this morning. that really just it's really and you just think it's about layer of about light, it's that layer of ice which causes a lot of. ice now which causes a lot of. that's the problem, isn't it? so do be careful if you're out and about put a blanket in your about and put a blanket in your car well. there are lots of car as well. there are lots of people stuck on the m6 you to yesterday in fact. yeah yesterday stay in. in fact. yeah i'll and watch us. i'll be staying and watch us. watch and get watch you get the telly and get the on and the way you the kettle on and the way you go. and i will tell you what you need this morning, need to know this morning, including that information about the helping to the uk helping to fund a detention on soil detention centre on french soil to try to stop the of to try to stop the flow of migrants crossing via the migrants crossing the uk via the channel. deal was channel. yes, the deal was agreed paris yesterday agreed in paris yesterday between prime minister rishi sunak and president emmanuel macron to macron of france at a summit to tackle we tackle the issue. now the uk, we think, is going to pay about £480 million in funding over the next three years or so to help fund those measures which are expected to be fully operational in 2 to 3 years. let's go over that and more. we're joined now by the founder of youth vote uk, alexander cairns. good morning to you. great to have you in
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this morning. back with us. and so, first of all, what did you make of that summit between rishi sunak kind emmanuel rishi sunak kind of emmanuel macron certainly macron yesterday? certainly looked here looked very cosy. we were here live they stepped into a live as they stepped into a palace yesterday. they were holding lots holding each other's back. lots of i mean, it was of back rubs. i mean, it was significant wasn't the significant, wasn't it? the first summit years? first summit in five years? yeah, it was significant . and yeah, it was significant. and it's good to that it's obviously good to see that they've work in they've got a good work in relationship. know, that's relationship. you know, that's very important. france key very important. france is a key ally it was a ally for us. i think it was a little bit overdone in terms of i think, you know, rishi sunak felt always has a kind felt like he always has a kind of camera crew, you know, following everything he does all the i think a little the time. and i think a little bit top. but i also bit over the top. but i also understand it's an understand that it's an important you he's important summit. you know, he's he's lot of pressure for he's got a lot of pressure for this immigration bill. he needs to be with france. so to be working with france. so understand, you i think we understand, you know, i think we need little bit less of the need a little bit less of the hugging and the kind of, you know, motif and the policies. yeah, more do yeah, well, what what more do you know this stage? you need to know at this stage? i were putting in half i mean, he were putting in half a over a number a billion pounds over a number of france is putting of years. france is putting money in to we don't know how much we're going and much we're going to have. and
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basically a detention centre and more things. but on more patrols and things. but on the other side of the channel, that's to help hasn't that's all going to help hasn't it? i mean it's an it? yeah. i mean it's an interesting one because obviously we're going have to wait years into its wait a few years into its operational that's operational and that's interesting. that? you interesting. why is that? you know, that the french know, i know that the french office to some more office have to recruit some more officers this. they're going officers for this. they're going to them. and to build it for them. and i think interesting as well think what's interesting as well is you know, working is obviously, you know, working in important, but in france is important, but actually just the whole approach to think is wrong and to this i think is wrong and actually, you're seeing a lot of people necessarily people that aren't necessarily satisfied because what satisfied because i think what rishi do is rishi sunak is trying to do is anything that's a difficult issue wants address. and issue he wants to address. and we with brexit, which we saw that with brexit, which is the right is absolutely the right thing. but think assumes that but i think he assumes that because he got, you know, a win with the european union on brexit, somehow working brexit, that somehow working with french government with the french government this will a bullet, will be a silver bullet, there'll be detention centre, there'll be a detention centre, more of the more officers kind of on the french and would, you french beach and that would, you know, and know, stop everything. and i don't it's simple. as don't think it's that simple. as we've know, we've seen you know, historically it's business to the past seem equal footing the past seem on equal footing to both yesterday because stephen's just mentioned that we know that we will be contributing half billion contributing half a billion
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pounds detention centre pounds to this detention centre in few years. we don't in the next few years. we don't have the french. have numbers from the french. there a difference in there was also a difference in rhetoric yesterday, rishi sunak said he's very to be said he's very fortunate to be serving alongside but serving alongside macron, but macron he wants to the macron said he wants to have the best possible relations, the best possible relations, but the uk to consequences uk needs to fix the consequences of brexit. do you think he of brexit. what do you think he meant yeah, and i think meant by that? yeah, and i think this is the reality. i think we are going to the french trying to kind of plead with the political that have. political issue that we have. obviously they a different obviously they have a different perspective this. right perspective on this. right so i don't it's equal don't think it's an equal footing. i as an equal footing. i think as an equal relationship all. and i think relationship at all. and i think that's for us because that's an issue for us because it the government it means the french government have think it's very have leverage. i think it's very interesting that we haven't found out how much they're paying, found out how much they're paying, probably indicates found out how much they're payiiit's probably indicates found out how much they're payiiit's probably bably indicates found out how much they're payiiit's probably notly indicates found out how much they're payiiit's probably not thatiicates that it's probably not that much. to fund a much. and we're going to fund a lot of the bill. i don't lot of the bill. and i don't think taxpayers are think british taxpayers are going that because going to like that because i think joint issue think this is a joint issue between france and the united kingdom. is it a joint kingdom. but why is it a joint issue? because i mean, because as far as france concerned. as far as france is concerned. they're to be at all they're not going to be at all concerned, i mean, concerned, are they? i mean, realistically, as wouldn't realistically, as we wouldn't be the if there were the other way if there were people getting on boats from the
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uk and heading and uk and heading to france and leaving wouldn't leaving our country. we wouldn't be bothered, would we? so no, i see the point, i think it's see the point, but i think it's a joint issue in sense of i a joint issue in the sense of i think the french people, the nonh think the french people, the north you know, north obviously, you know, there's migrants are there's a lot of migrants are trying know, come to trying to, you know, come in to the united kingdom. there's a lot of these kind of camps where the aren't too the french people aren't too happy. it's still political the french people aren't too happyas it's still political the french people aren't too happy as muchtill political the french people aren't too happyas much as political the french people aren't too happyas much as macronil the french people aren't too happy as much as macron tries issue. as much as macron tries to down, i think, you to play it down, i think, you know, some the contacts know, from some of the contacts ihave know, from some of the contacts i have in france, people are still concerned about, still very concerned about, especially parts, especially in the calais parts, the little bit of an the there's a little bit of an issue there and they want to get it sorted with. you can go what about bill when was put about the bill when it was put before house this week, before the house this week, there . well, it can't there is concern. well, it can't work until there's a return agreement similar to actually send people. but the idea i mean, it's got the backing gb news people's poll yesterday, 52% of people backed that , 52% of people backed that, backed that plan. i mean there's something has to be done. i mean is a general is there a general acknowledgement that? mean, acknowledgement of that? i mean, so interesting one so it's an interesting one because i think it really depends who you ask. i actually would say the overwhelming when
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we people , they we poll young people, they actually support the bill. actually don't support the bill. and i think the reason they don't if you think about, you don't is if you think about, you know, the refugees and asylum seekers and migrants that are trying get better life for trying to get a better life for themselves or fleeing war zone countries, support countries, they don't support the fact that if you think about the fact that if you think about the policy, know, going to the policy, you know, going to rwanda are leaving rwanda, if you are leaving a developing country and coming to the uk or europe, that's you don't really want to be going to run the right. so i think the policy really should working policy really should be working with countries and with european countries and understanding how we fairly understanding how can we fairly look at, know, placements in look at, you know, placements in european countries. going to rwanda probably the right rwanda isn't probably the right thing those people that are thing for those people that are live no, but the live developing. no, but the idea the idea that if you tried to come here illegally, then you are and you will are just back out and you will never leave to remain. but never get leave to remain. but i think it's the definition of how they're coming here illegally. i think there's a backlog . i think think there's a backlog. i think i haven't got a real clarity position on what's going to be a legal versus illegal passage . legal versus illegal passage. again, depends who you ask again, it depends who you ask and i think if people are desperate, they don't have the
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right to get to the uk right channels to get to the uk . of course they're . absolutely. of course they're going to try and come here illegally. doesn't mean illegally. that doesn't mean that be a that they shouldn't be allowed a fair of as to why fair kind of hearing as to why they be given asylum or they should be given asylum or refuge in the united kingdom. i think but definition think again. but definition needs a bit more needs be a little bit more clearer. okay, alexander, good needs be a little bit more cletalk. okay, alexander, good needs be a little bit more cletalk. oyou.alexander, good needs be a little bit more cletalk. oyou. thankier, good needs be a little bit more cletalk. oyou. thank you.iood needs be a little bit more cletalk. oyou. thank you. thank to talk to you. thank you. thank you and now ahead of you very much. and now ahead of the on wednesday , the spring budget on wednesday, we've had a pretty good scoop here at gb news because the chancellor has spoken esther chancellor has spoken to esther and phil on his plans to deliver growth and tackle inflation. have a listen. it's not what i want at all. but by the way, liz truss was right to say that the central question is how we deliver growth . where i think deliver growth. where i think the mini budget was wrong was to say you can borrow to cut taxes because that's not sustainable. that's not money that you've actually got. that's money you're borrowing . and so if you're borrowing. and so if we're going to cut taxes permanently , then it needs to be permanently, then it needs to be a tax cut that we earn through higher growth. and the first
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step is stability . and for step is stability. and for stability, you need responsible pubuc stability, you need responsible public finances. stability, you need responsible public finances . and that's why public finances. and that's why we took some very difficult decisions. we did increased taxes. we actually cut spend by more than we increased taxes in the autumn statement . so it was the autumn statement. so it was a very, very difficult statement . what we now have is a responsible outlook for public finances. the markets have recognised that by bringing down mortgage rates, interest rates and we're on track to bring inflation down. but if you're saying to me as a conservative chancellor, do i want to bring down taxes? well, i want to bnng down taxes? well, i want to bring down personal taxes because that is at the heart of what being a conservative is. but i want to bring down business taxes, even more . they business taxes, even more. they sound so he wants to do it now. i tell you what, i find it interesting about that is still sticking to those principles. but i want to bring down business taxes. i want to bring down personal hurray! we
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down personal taxes. hurray! we wouldn't that be. wouldn't that be lovely but fact you be lovely? but the fact you saying can't do it now. now, saying i can't do it now. now, is that frustrating or is it responsible economics ? which responsible economics? which which side of the fence do you sit on? on that? i mean, it'd be lovely to have all the tax cuts now, but then what sort of pickle would that leave us in? so i don't know. it help so i don't know. would it help grow economy, as was liz grow the economy, as was liz truss, this idea, you know, you could all the all the could all the slash all the taxes and all this and it will help grow the economy. but it sounds then is hands tied because liz truss did exactly the opposite and it didn't go down too well. no it didn't go down too well. no it didn't go down well with the market. there's only. but perhaps then that there's one that means there's only one way to handle this next budget going to handle this next budget going to be that he's saying that he'd like he'd like to do like to do what he'd like to do and he going to do, and what he is going to do, perhaps will be add on to one another, which means if we settle ship now, does that settle the ship now, does that mean the in handy mean we'll get all the in handy time for the election? time for the next election? yeah, those tax cuts, i just don't know. yes but it would make sort of political sense . make sort of political sense. does economic sense?
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does it make economic sense? what do you think, gbviews@gbnews.uk . anyway, that gbviews@gb news.uk. anyway, that was a gbviews@gbnews.uk. anyway, that was a clip. it watch the was just a clip. it watch the full esther's and full video on esther's and phil's programme. 10:00 this morning and we'll talk to them about that interview just after nine. have more to come nine. we have lots more to come on programme, including the on the programme, including the latest warning the latest weather warning from the met office .
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might recognise morley calls only fools and horses legend . only fools and horses legend. very excited about that. yeah though she's. she's been stung by four online fraud so she doesn't want people to get stung as well. so it'll be really interesting to talk to her and find out what you need to do to protect yourselves. get in touch all the usual ways. of course. best one, as far as i'm concerned, because i don't know why is vaiews@gbnews.uk ? why is vaiews@gbnews.uk? because it's a one. it's easy to say you can tweet us as well if you want at . gb news can help you want at. gb news can help husky this morning. tell us about say really like the husky, the voice . yeah, but you go it's the voice. yeah, but you go it's early, it's only 6:24. there you go. now there are currently 70 flood alerts in place across the uk midlands and the south, all being warned. scottish and believe it or not, now has a
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wildfire warning . yes, it's wildfire warning. yes, it's after the country was battered with heavy snow and blizzards earlier this week, with some areas seeing around 40 centimetres of snow and temperatures dropping as low as minus 17. well, let's talk to meteorologist john hammond, who joins is now what's going on. john what a mess , david. what a john what a mess, david. what a mess. we're in the middle of march. it's a meteorological mess. yes, there's a lot going on. it's cold. you mentioned it's minus three, i think where you were earlier on today in the south midlands. we were very concerned that it might get down as low as minus ten last night across parts of the midlands, which would have been truly historic. we've actually been saved from those remarkably low temperatures of temperatures by a shield of clouds. the lowest clouds. so actually the lowest temperatures i see at temperatures that i can see at the moment across the north the moment are across the north of where it is —12. of scotland, where it is —12. but more typically we're waking up sort of minus three to up to sort of minus three to minus five degrees. so an icy start, just about nationwide, adding to the mix. there are some flurries of snow affecting parts of south wales and the
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west country. so an enhanced risk of some ice here, but just about anywhere, it's going to be treacherous out there with all that snow which fell over the last couple of days. and you're seeing now the seeing pictures now of the extent across the north extent of it across the north midlands, wales, northern england, and that snow is only going to slowly thaw through today. it's gonna be a cold, cold day , a great cold day for cold day, a great cold day for many of us today. so typically around about four or five, six degrees. the degrees. that's what the temperature is going to be like. where should be at this time where should we be at this time of should be up at of year? we should be up at around degrees. typically in around 12 degrees. typically in the of march. so this the middle of march. so this cold march continues actually cold march continues actually cold months getting rarer than hen's teeth. we it's not very often that we get a colder than average month but march i think if we carry on in this fashion is going to be a colder than average month . and my charts average month. and my charts actually indicate that although there will be some milder interludes over the next few days , really, it's a cold scene days, really, it's a cold scene for the next week or two across much of the uk.
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for the next week or two across much of the uk . and there is the much of the uk. and there is the chance of further snowfall , chance of further snowfall, hopefully not as dramatic as we've had over the last couple of days, but there are chance bits of snow as we go into next week and possibly beyond. so we're not out of the woods yet and later on today there will be some fresh snowfall across parts of wales and northern ireland andifs of wales and northern ireland and it's that it's the really cold air across northern england and scotland. i'm expecting a few more centimetres of snow . so few more centimetres of snow. so this is later on this evening. get into the night. we're not talking 40 centimetres. we're talking 40 centimetres. we're talking probably another four or five centimetres of snow on top of what's already fallen. so that's one to watch later on tonight. but actually, guys, tomorrow , a transformation much tomorrow, a transformation much warmer air will sweep across the country. so in comparison with the four or five celsius that i've been talking about today , i've been talking about today, tomorrow, actually, typically a 12 or 13 degree. so what a wrap it's saw through tomorrow and
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there'll be some rain which does bnng there'll be some rain which does bring the chance of some flooding because all that snow that's locked up across the high ground , northern england, ground, northern england, scotland is going to be released into the rivers of northern england, maybe the midlands as well. so flooding is one to watch through later tonight watch at through later tonight and into tomorrow . yeah, and into tomorrow. yeah, flooding is one to watch, but remark in scotland there's also wildfires the warnings tell us a bit more about that news to me as well . to be honest, it's been as well. to be honest, it's been as well. to be honest, it's been a dry it's been a dry winter. and so i think there is some concern that if we continue in this dry vein, we get into the spnng this dry vein, we get into the spring and the latest computer models, i have to say the longer term models are indicating that it will be a dry late spring and into summer. and quite potentially another hot one. then we could be in problem into problem territory with wildfires. but actually that that news item that you that you've told me about, that's news to me. i hopefully all the snow in the rain which we're
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going to see over the next few days, will help the situation. but is there some concern that we have had a very dry winter and yet the computer models are right? we're going to be heading into a dry late spring and some of that . and that one of of that. and that is one of concern. if the situation doesn't if we don't have a prolonged spell of rain, then obviously the virus increases and it does the. john, really good to talk to you this morning. thanks very much indeed. i'll tell you what, though, i am quite cheered by john with at least tomorrow ten or 12 degrees, i might have a barbecue tively balmy might get me shot so yeah it's hot summers did you hear that hot summer but isn't it interesting you know there is this concern that we're just not getting enough rain . just not getting enough rain. no.and just not getting enough rain. no. and then we're talking in the papers yesterday. were we about how people don't want reservoirs built near them , reservoirs built near them, which i don't understand, because can look so because reservoirs can look so beautiful doing anything, they can lovely good. can be really lovely and good. wildlife and the wildlife reserves and all the rest of but we're going to rest of it. but we're going to have prepare reservoirs, have to prepare more reservoirs, things to you know,
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things we're going to you know, if we're having sort of if we're having these sort of water shortages that water shortages to sort that out. was the papers out. so that was in the papers yesterday. we'll find out what's in papers today in a couple in the papers today in a couple of minutes. and we're also talking about space junk personally , like a trillion personally, like a trillion pieces of space junk in low—earth orbit . we're going to low—earth orbit. we're going to have to solve that .
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632 morning to you watching and listening to breakfast with stephen and anne lee. and let's take a look at today's front pages for you now and the daily express has gone with rishi sunak at £478 million deal with france to end the small boats crisis. the times has support from fellow presenters who've refused to stand in for gary lineker, following his suspension from match of the day . similarly, the independent
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questions what britain is getting . oh no, that's not the getting. oh no, that's not the same story at all and not at all. we're talking about the anglo—french summit yesterday , anglo—french summit yesterday, talking about britain hunting france £500 million to sell the small boats crisis . the full small boats crisis. the full flip flopping again, this of the mail is going on and gary lineker is suspension claiming one source has described the mutiny as a proper beeb sea crisis . so it does seem mutiny as a proper beeb sea crisis. so it does seem as though there's two stories in the papers today, so it's time to go through the pages now. and joining us this morning, it's in two years, it's been editor of the spectator and kevin schofield, editor of schofield, political editor of huffpost. good morning to both syndey. let's start with you, shall we? and the anglo—french wmmw shall we? and the anglo—french summit. yes, we'll start with the two stories that got 500 many pound deal to stop the boats. yes. and the daily express is reporting that france is expected to pay five times that much. so they suspect that the deal is around £3 billion in total. i don't know if that is really to be believed, because
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that's what that what the that's what that is. what the downing line is well. downing street line is as well. but france is paying five times, to according downing street, according as according to downing street as well. wouldn't say if well. they wouldn't dare say if it wasn't true. i think you can maybe kind of number maybe do some kind of number tampering kind tampering about what kind of money they already money would they would already put force. you know, put into border force. you know, silly policing. don't silly policing. anyway, i don't know but but what i know the details, but but what i do know is there be this do know is that there be this new detention centre as any migrants found living illegally in or otherwise in france in calais or otherwise in france will taken detention will be taken to detention centre that they never cross centre so that they never cross the channel and that there'll be 500 more police officers and some border force, uk border force people permanently stationed there . so a lot of new stationed there. so a lot of new things happening . will it work? things happening. will it work? well, that's new returns deal, which is one of the things that the london side was hoping for so that if anyone does make it across france are saying we're not taking them back unless you talk to the whole of the eu. so the massive questions about where the gaps lie. yeah and you just and just mentioned ten as and i think i read somewhere it's not
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due to be up and running until the end of 2026. yeah. so you know , obviously the decision is know, obviously the decision is made stopping the boats is one of his five key promises. the next election is only 18 months away and you've got be realistic about that, though, haven't we, in terms of what he set himself? that doesn't say he did. but if we're building, you know, for building a detention. so, i mean, it's not going to be ready in fortnight. well no, it's in a fortnight. well no, it's not. but it's for the voters. that argument, you know. well, we're towards we're train on moving towards that only that because voters could only say, well, hang on a minute, you've in power for 14 you've been in power for 14 years. know you know got years. five know you know got this a on this before this got a handle on this before long now. think long before now. so i think that's going the that's going to be the difficulty for them they can see well were make progress but well that were make progress but because he the bar so high because he set the bar so high with a the boats he's a with a stop the boats he's a very clear pledge you hold on he's tom john down he's like tom john we can down the street whether the street and it's whether voters willing to cut him voters are willing to cut him some say okay fair enough some slack say okay fair enough the numbers are reducing hanging. said we'll stop hanging. but you said we'll stop them and punish them entirely and then punish them entirely and then punish them you know ,
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them at the election. you know, i think they'll be quite happy with this proposal. the with this proposal. no data. the daily express being so positive about it, you know, reporting this line about the french spending much, much more on it. i think in terms of day to of what voters and the right wing press think. you know, i think it press think. you know, i think h been press think. you know, i think it been positive and they'll it has been positive and they'll be congratulating themselves. all so government is all right. so the government is going be happy with half the going to be happy with half the front and bbc not going front pages and bbc is not going to with the other half. to be happy with the other half. and a look at and let's let's have a look at the because it's look, the times because it's look, obviously, been obviously, lineker has been suspended much day. suspended for much of the day. yeah, now everybody has yeah, but now everybody has walked well. well walked out as well. well yeah, i think it's not quite wearing a t—shirt saying poor well, t—shirt saying poor gary. well, it's i think. how it's not quite what i think. how the bbc thought it would. i think as soon as ian wright said last night that was pulling last night that he was pulling out no , one else could do it out no, one else could do it because one, i think, wanted because no one, i think, wanted to be crossing margin of the to be crossing the margin of the picket it looks like that picket line. it looks like that . bbc have managed . so yeah, the bbc have managed to turn this into a story about their mishandling a thing of situation. no it's dominated .
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situation. no it's dominated. headlines. for the last three or four days it felt almost like the air was coming out the story yesterday and tell last night. obviously in the bbc said he was stepping out or was stepping back out or was a dispute over how voluntary. that was i don't think it was voluntary, no. at all. it looks like basically they've gone to him said, right, you need to him and said, right, you need to apologise, something. apologise, you need something. and basically back on and basically rolling back on what and he wouldn't do what you said and he wouldn't do it. it's comedy that's no, it. and it's comedy that's no, this obviously one of the this is obviously one of the most popular programmes on the bbc programme is going bbc tonight programme is going to unrecognisable . there's to be unrecognisable. there's even of something elliot even talk of something elliot doing it me and elliot do not sense not make sense , but you sense not make sense, but you know, to stop some of the managers wouldn't speak to the bbc either after. i mean, it's unbelievable . going to well is unbelievable. going to well is unbelievable. going to well is unbelievable really how this is completely spun out of control andifs completely spun out of control and it's difficult to see how it resolves itself because it looks like gary lineker is digging in i don't think he's going to a apologise certainly or retract to what he said. that's not going to happen. and the bbc
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have no, you know, going up against them. so they they then roll back themselves and clean down. i mean, tim davie who's dg right. director general . so down. i mean, tim davie who's dg right. director general. so he's the boss, but he got the job. i in 2020, he said i want to crack down on staff posting their views on social media to restore the view of the bbc as impartial , which is, you know, fair enough. if that's the position, then absolutely. fair enough . so then absolutely. fair enough. so they can't then continue with gary lineker being just about the only person to spout off on whatever he likes and get away with it. well, i mean, you've got lord sugar who's it and got lord sugar who's done it and he presents the he still presents the apprentice. he's been apprentice. i mean, he's been pretty clear in his political views on twitter. there's views on on twitter. there's never about never any discussion about whether lose. the whether he should lose. the argument made an argument would be made by an independent company argument would be made by an indeboughtt company argument would be made by an indebought in company argument would be made by an indebought in is company argument would be made by an indebought in is yeah company argument would be made by an inde bought in is yeah that's,»any and bought in is yeah that's, true. i mean the other argument is little as an unused is it got a little as an unused present. i mean no but but tim moore accused value but he wasn't talking about news presented bbc presented talking about bbc staff. yeah look, gary lineker
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is not staff but yeah. so but he has also i'm pretty sure he's tweeted controversial things since 2020 and he's got away with it . what about this one and with it. what about this one and particular is it because the bowed to the political pressure obviously that is isn't that not c—word? no. well it didn't i mean, that's not what we know what you said. yeah, that was i think it was when you go there. i think it's sam, you're opening yourself up to. all right. so what's the polling between you two, then? should should gary lineker be stepping down or be pushed like this? do you think it's a wrong decision by the bbc so difficult. it's so difficult because i think you really do want to down on the social want to crack down on the social media stuff. it ridiculous. media stuff. it is ridiculous. people spouting on people are spouting off on twitter, not in the bbc, twitter, not just in the bbc, but just journalists in general. i it's a massive i mean, i think it's a massive problem for our industry. you can see how lineker is such a massive diva with he's massive diva with this. he's paid like, well, paid so much. he's like, well, i had to take this stuff from you. and so i think it's difficult
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and so i think it's so difficult because you say, you know, if because as you say, you know, if the you to shut up on the boss wants you to shut up on social media, should live on social media, you should live on social media, you should live on social and if you don't, social media. and if you don't, then going be then that's going to be consequences. so sold. sold consequences. so you sold. sold it, think they've made it, because i think they've made this so much worse. yeah, right. yeah, think no, think yeah, i think no, i think they've done thing they've done the wrong thing here. i think they've made it into a huge i think into such a huge issue. i think that that would leave. wouldn't leave. this sort leave. gary lineker is this sort of a diva, the of policy you a diva, the untouchable? i think that may have behind the have been a wee behind the scenes have a quiet but and scenes to have a quiet but and see look tone it down bit for see look tone it down a bit for crying the last few days crying over the last few days right. and gary lineker wasn't having any i think it having any of it. i think it sounds as though from what we're gathered, have been gathered, they may have been looking some looking for him to make some kind statement. so kind of public statement. so yeah, distance themselves to not not he was ever going to do not only he was ever going to do that. there might you that. i think there might you know, it without know, we are doing it without coming such a point. i think the bbc it and they bbc have mishandled it and they certainly anticipate the certainly didn't anticipate the reaction that there's been an of the saying they won't the authors saying they won't appear no, they've the authors saying they won't appthat no, they've the authors saying they won't appthat hugely no, they've the authors saying they won't appthat hugely populariey've the authors saying they won't appthat hugely popular long got that hugely popular long running going running programme and it's going to shell to me i don't to be a shell to me and i don't know what's going to next know what's going to happen next
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week. what you week. well, you know what you need to do because you say it's going to be match of the day with no presenter, no pundits and so it would and no commentary. so it would seem so. need tune in to seem so. you need to tune in to the alternative match of day the alternative match of the day 10:00 tonight. gb news with mark dolan tonight. got dolan tonight. we've got pundits, , stars all pundits, experts, stars all going to be on the show. so you want to watch them, steph? you want to watch them, steph? you want to watch them, steph? you want to be here instead? definitely cindy let's have a look at the junior doctor strikes , which is in the tell strikes, which is in the tell groth. yes, it's i think actually in the mirror. this particular one. but a long list . yeah, but tens of thousands of patients and medics all going to london today . so, i mean, this london today. so, i mean, this is the first time that patients are going to be, you know, on the streets as well, to just protest underfunding of the nhs and you've got other people like adam who's a famous adam kay, who's a very famous author and comedian who used to adam kay, who's a very famous auta)r and comedian who used to adam kay, who's a very famous auta junior comedian who used to adam kay, who's a very famous auta junior doctorian who used to adam kay, who's a very famous auta junior doctor and vho used to adam kay, who's a very famous auta junior doctor and a 0 used to adam kay, who's a very famous auta junior doctor and a wadingto be a junior doctor and a wading in that and i think this is in on that and i think this is part you know, we talk about part of, you know, we talk about what you see next, five pledges as well as boots. also as well as the boots. it's also to the waiting list and
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to cut down the waiting list and just to solve these kind of health, health crises and health, health care crises and health, health care crises and health the strike health care must be the strike that the governments most worried it's the worried about, because it's the one most popularly one that's most popularly supported, from supported, as we can see from patients literally the patients literally going the streets their staff. streets to support their staff. so you know, once rishi so i think, you know, once rishi sunak comes back from paris and i know he's got another summit on is something on monday, this is something that can't be. i can't that really can't be. i can't wait because this is something that public not that the public does not support. the government on. not giving here. giving pay rises here. so why why it that the health why is it that the health secretary didn't meet june new doctors or their representatives yesterday? i mean , seems yesterday? i mean, seems crackers to me. no, i'm just i completely agree with you. and i think rishi sunak is desperate to get this dealt with. no, i mean, both . gordon from steve mean, both. gordon from steve barclay, previously seen in the run up at christmas time, said no talks at all. if this is the offer, take a leave it the road back or not, let all but know that they will talk about peace talks. but there's mixed messages coming out, not meet them. yes, they because clearly this is running on and run on.
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and you're right. and it's mixed. it's very unpopular. the government, the public love the nhs and they need to get this resolved and it has had a decent couple of weeks. the brexit deal couple of weeks. the brexit deal, the announcement, couple of weeks. the brexit deal, the announcement , the, you deal, the announcement, the, you know, the bromance with the macron yesterday , this is macron yesterday, this is something else that he needs to get dealt with so they can move on because this is not good . on because this is not good. yeah okay, i want to because got to talk about the duke of york . to talk about the duke of york. i mean, poor fella . poor fella . i mean, poor fella. poor fella. the king will no longer pay for his indian healer. can you believe that? i mean. well, what rocky does a king think he is ? rocky does a king think he is? yeah, £32,000 a year, apparently , prince andrew pays on weepy, i guess , for an indian healer. guess, for an indian healer. this has been going on for several years. and the queen, who we know was very fond of andrew, signed off on it. no problem at all. it's basically
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he said in the bill to the private parts monarch to decide whether it gets paid or not. now i'm not privy purse means we're paying i'm not privy purse means we're paying for. well yeah exactly. so charles has come in and i think it's fair to say that he's cracking the whip you cracking the whip here, you know, it's not just know, i mean it's not just andrew, obviously taking frogmore sussexes as frogmore cottage off sussexes as well. and he's basically said, no, hang on a minute, i'm not paying no, hang on a minute, i'm not paying this anymore. so if you want yet and in hela want they have yet and in hela you'll have to pay for it yourself. so we'll see. get in for grand a doing so for 32 grand a year doing so i think the sun has a mock up of andrew cross legged sitting in denim jacket kind of go arming but i think that's probably just the latter part of what he does massages analyst nick therapy i mean look andrew you get i'll do it for you for 15 grand i mean it's just i it for you for 15 grand i mean it'sjust i mean it's more it for you for 15 grand i mean it's just i mean it's more than most people earning is utterly insane. most people earning is utterly insane . this is in my own isn't insane. this is in my own isn't i mean he's famously you know, quite fond of the perks of being
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a royal. so why do you think he realises the perk of being a royal for him is probably normal . and i think he would just like that. this is the scenario. i think, you know, in the story, in fact, like queen was in fact, like the queen was paying in fact, like the queen was paying all these years, it's paying for all these years, it's the most fascinating thing to me. i mean, we love queen me. i mean, we love the queen for reason. but clearly on for good reason. but clearly on andrew, such soft andrew, she has such a soft spot, such a spot to soft, spot, such a sore spot to soft, softer spot, some say. softer spot, some might say. and, know, good to see and, you know, it's good to see that you know, that charles's, you know, thinking about the cost of living crisis and not letting this no, it's this go. yeah. no, it's certainly new era, isn't certainly a new era, isn't it? clutching at purse strings. clutching at the purse strings. oh, absolutely . i mean, oh, yeah, absolutely. i mean, the interesting is he said the interesting here is he said to have his £249,000 a year grant. andrew gets is going to get slashed . i am talking about get slashed. i am talking about our money. move out of the residence that he's got as well having mean fergie so yeah as i see charles come in and he's decided that's a new one and this is how it's going to be done from now on. and he's not taking any notes. no do you
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think this is going to go on? i mean, because i think the way that charles is handling himself and some of the cracked downs, he's just i know this slim a monarchy and all the rest of it that aiming. but actually that is aiming. but actually this is to get a of this is going to get a lot of applause. is that to say, well, that's money? we didn't that's this money? we didn't know it was being spent, but this wasteful, so. yeah, this is wasteful, so. yeah, absolutely. mean , look, absolutely. i mean, look, i mean, probably some mean, charles probably has some personalhe brother's because he and his brother's relationship have been pretty bad since jeffrey epstein's stuff, i think charles is stuff, but i think charles is mindful that he is not as popular as the queen he has to kind of live up to her legacy and to do that, he has to be mindful of the ways he's acting and not take it for granted and not just take it for granted . so i think this is a great . and so i think this is a great thing. mean, wouldn't have thing. i mean, we wouldn't have known had he said known about it had he not said no. so it really kind of raises the question of how else are they living? so you do wonder what they spending to what else are they spending to raise question? raise that question? you do wonder you've got wonder if you've got any thoughts that. you are an thoughts on that. if you are an indian healer or use bob are you gb £2,000? yeah oh no. gb views £2,000? yeah oh no. often he's so into that once a
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week. many people are cheaper than that's just can't than 32,000. that's just can't quite get my head around . the quite get my head around. the bankers who spent the lifestyle he must have led. i mean, in that wonderful i think it's 50 bedroom arms that residents on the windsor estate where you can meet some of the stuff and it must be a nightmare to heat, though. oh yeah of those energy probably comes out the privy person. i'm sure it does yeah you got to have to worry about it. okay. if you've got any thoughts on that, gbviews@gbnews.uk i'm sure you do. cindy kevin, thank you both very much indeed. we'll catch up with you too a little bit later on. now, scientist are calling for a collective effort to protect earth's orbit from becoming clogged with debris and decommissioned satellites . you decommissioned satellites. you know, it's tiny bits of debris, is it? yeah, there's. he's a space geek. i love my space there. so there's about 37,000 bits of debris that that were about up to ten centimetres or about up to ten centimetres or
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about ten centimetre as long. so but but the other but the other bits are it's like flecks of paint that tiny, tiny bits. there's about 130 million of them. and but they're travelling, it's something like four miles a second in low earth orbit. so that's what the shuttle was doing for miles a second. so that could be really fast. so that can cause devastating damage. these tiny little bits . so it's really, little bits. so it's really, really problematic . experts are really problematic. experts are warning that humans are polluting the skies in a similar way to the seas and land, adding that must learn the lessons that we must learn the lessons from our history and act from our own history and act now. well we're joined now by astronomer mark thompson for more on this. good morning, tim. brilliant to have you with us. so for people who are and listening this morning, first of all, what is junk ? well, you all, what is junk? well, you know, just as we were talking about the problem is, is all the bits of debris from flecks of paint that might have fallen off spacecraft of satellites in orbit around the earth , there
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orbit around the earth, there are bits of bits of bolts and nuts that are flying around . nuts that are flying around. sometimes they're there because they've been caused by some kind of impact or collision where satellites are not used anymore in an uncontrolled orbits and they happen, they'll bump into each other. and it happens on on occasions. and there's debris from those collisions , bits of from those collisions, bits of things. debris like that in things. if debris like that in those bits of paint that have just fallen off satellites. there's even a toolbox floating around that fell off or fell off. it drifted away from one of the space shuttle missions. so there's a whole host of bits and pieces floating around. and if we don't get control of it, then ultimately could be cut off ultimately we could be cut off from from space. right. so how do we control of it? because do we get control of it? because why isn't this stuff slowing down falling into the down and falling into the atmosphere burning out that atmosphere to burning out that it does ? you know, that's that's it does? you know, that's that's the good thing is that bits of it do slow down in their orbit and of course if you don't accelerate and provide power to anything in orbit around the
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earth and it does slow down by atmospheric drag where the resistance of the atmosphere will slow it down and eventually burn up. but there's more of that and there's more being produced . and there's this produced. and there's this concept called the a syndrome that essentially says the more debns that essentially says the more debris you have, then the more debns debris you have, then the more debris being produced because debris is being produced because it more collisions. it generates more collisions. but quite how you it and but quite how you stop it and clear up is difficult. the larger pieces you can track and collect space craft up in an orbit. the space station could certainly start a sort of garbage run, if you like, and start collecting and bringing safely some of those bits of debris. but the danger really is, is the smaller bits, the bits of paint, the tiny little bits of paint, the tiny little bits of paint, the tiny little bits of debris that you can't quite track and you can't see where it is. and capturing that is very difficult. now, they're concepts such as these are only concepts such as these are only concepts at the moment, putting up their large nets or large inflatable balloons, for want of a better description, the sticky that these things could attach
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to. but at the moment, there's no really credible way of getting rid of the smaller pieces of debris that it truly is fascinating this experts this morning who's saying there needs to be a leak binding global treaty . that's the only way, treaty. that's the only way, they say that this is going to be tackled. what do you make of that? how would that work? yeah i quite agree that there's got to be responsibility. and if there's the big problem is, is there's the big problem is, is the satellites in orbit around the satellites in orbit around the earth that are just left and not brought back to earth safely . so they will eventually deorbit. they will eventually slow down. as i've spoken about with the atmospheric drag and fall to the earth. but there's a danger there because if these satellites are drifting around uncontrolled and they eventually will fall through the atmosphere, it's a large enough they will have they'll hit the surface of the land. many of them get destroyed, generating a bit debris. but some of them will land quite often over the pacific ocean or the atlantic ocean but always ocean. but there's always a danger that they could land over
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land , over inhabited areas of land, over inhabited areas of the world. so there's got to be responsibility and it's really important that the international organisations and companies take control of the debris that gets produced. yeah, i mean, it's just difficult to see how it just so difficult to see how it comes to i mean when it comes, it comes to the biggest still from can set things from is it can we not set things up so that when you come to an end of their lifetime the jet is set off out towards the or something . there's cost something. there's cost associated with that. so certainly it's almost as fuel . certainly it's almost as fuel. yes, you could do that. but there's probably a moral question of should just make question of should we just make the problem get put somewhere else in space? because certainly space is big place and there's space is a big place and there's lots of it . but should we just lots of it. but should we just throw out debris ? it feels feels throw out debris? it feels feels a bit like throwing our debris into the ocean and just letting somebody else deal with it. but of course, if it goes, the sun is going to get destroyed. but i just think we need to control ourselves earth. need ourselves here on earth. we need to it properly and to capture it properly and dispose properly. just dispose of it properly. just stop messing places yeah. no
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stop messing places up. yeah. no well, it's a fair point, mark. really good to talk to you this morning. thanks very much, indeed.i morning. thanks very much, indeed. i just love fact indeed. i just love the fact that when comes to space that when it comes to space science and all these sorts of things you are dealing with the minuscule. yeah you know, because because you're talking about things that are travelling at such incredible velocity and so they can tiny tiniest of things can cause so much damage. i wonder if it won't actually be properly tackled until something tiny hits a manned craft . and tiny hits a manned craft. and then there's a catastrophe in space like that. they fascinate and that isn't it, isn't it? oh yeah, sure. quite always. always enjoy space. let us know what you think about that. gb views that gbnews.uk. should that be a global treaty in order to fix this go retrieval space junk? what you like the idea of a big net, big net. i'm going to sound a bit silly, but i'll go along with the big net so that we catch the big stuff. what do you do little that i just do about the little that i just don't know. i mean, it don't
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know . you loads have been in know. you loads have been in touch on lineker this is an interesting one. polar in reading high polar says i don't care whether bbc employees air their views on politics or not, but comparing things to germany in the 1930s was disrespect to the millions who died in world war two. so he does deserve some kind of punishment and many people are saying that. saying what? gary lineker has spoken about his political views before. why is this time different? i think for many people is exactly that, isn't people it is exactly that, isn't it? rhetoric about the it? it's that rhetoric about the bad , germany, the bad news bad news, germany, the bad news for the bbc is, course, it for the bbc is, of course, it pulls licence fee issue pulls in the licence fee issue again . does it cause the problem again. does it cause the problem with all of this is we're paying for all this and we're paying gary lineker £1.3 million, all the rest of it. roger, holly, roger can the licence fee roger says, can the licence fee payers solidarity not payers have solidarity and not have for something that have to pay for something that we like? a lot of people we don't like? a lot of people would not be annoyed with would not be too annoyed with gary if we weren't force with the threat of imprisonment, if we to to his
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we didn't pay to listen to his political bias . well, of course political bias. well, of course he's saying it twitter. roger he's saying it on twitter. roger to fair to gary lineker, he's to be fair to gary lineker, he's saying twitter and not saying this on twitter and not on air. but but i get your point . we have to we have to pay for gary lineker, whether we watch it or agree with him or anything else, want to not. else, whether we want to or not. we a choice and we we don't have a choice and we know what his are, don't know what his views are, don't we? questions about we? and again, questions about the licence fee from eddie in worthing. he the bbc cannot worthing. he says the bbc cannot have system and have this funding system and then leaning then hire only left leaning presenters. the presenters. they don't get the pubuc presenters. they don't get the public the freedom not to pay the well, those fees the fee. well, keep those fees coming views that gb news coming in gb views that gb news dot uk. lots more to come, including more gary lineker. gary lineker. first look at today's weather . good morning. today's weather. good morning. i'm alex deakin and this is your latest weather update from the met office. it will be turning mild this weekend, but it's cold out there this morning . out there this morning. potentially pretty icy as well , potentially pretty icy as well, especially where we've had some snow . the culprit that snow, snow. the culprit for that snow, this of low pressure has this area of low pressure has now cleared away. weather fronts are to push in from the are trying to push in from the west, but for most places, it's
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a dry, sunny start. but it is frosty out that now this weather front is providing dylan damp conditions in the southwest . conditions in the southwest. mostly rain here, but some snow over the moors. and as that wet weather creeps into parts of wales and northern here to a little bit of snow is likely dunng little bit of snow is likely during the day. again mostly over hills. however for much of northern and eastern england and most of scotland, it'll be a fine bright day with sunny spells, but it is cold temperatures for five, six, seven or eight, perhaps in one or two spots. it is turning milder, though, in the southwest, and that is a sign things to come. but the cold air still in place over northern england and scotland. and so as this comes later this wet weather comes in later today, of the midlands, today, parts of the midlands, too, we are going to see some snowfall not lasting too long, but cause further but it could cause some further disruptions into disruptions spreading into scotland night . scotland through the night. slippery the roads slippery conditions on the roads . so, yes, the met office do have another warning in place . have another warning in place. won't be as cold tomorrow morning as it is this morning. most places staying above freezing, still enough freezing, but still cold enough for sleet and snow to be falling
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on average, £3,500 a year and you could get help with heating bills and more, plus up to £900 in cost of living payments. channel gary lineker has been sidelined from match of the day in that row over impartiality . good row over impartiality. good morning. at 7:00 on saturday, the 11th of march, this is breakfast on gb news with stephen and ellie . so these are stephen and ellie. so these are your top stories this morning. and the bbc has suspended carolyn from match of the day after he criticised the government's asylum policies and made some comparisons to 1930. germany the programme will air without a presenter pundit after
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regular commentators said they stand in solidarity with lineker . the uk is to fund a new detention centre in france to tackle small boat channel crossings. the prime minister and the french president have agreed to a £480 million payout over the next three years to help tackle the ongoing crisis . help tackle the ongoing crisis. loads of you getting in touch on those key issues this morning . those key issues this morning. we'd love to hear for you. that was all about space junk. you've just been about. well, maybe we'll touch on that again. and those because there's a buzz about 130 million bits of space junkin about 130 million bits of space junk in low—earth orbit. i think reaching point where we may reaching a point where we may not be able get off the not be able to get off the surface the planet unless surface of the planet unless it's tackled. so maybe we'll talk that again. never talk about that again. you never know. meantime , drop us know. in the meantime, drop us an gb views at gb news. an email gb views at gb news. choose .uk . to our top story now choose .uk. to our top story now and gary lineker is to step back from presenting match of the day
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following his row with the bbc over his politicised tweets . the over his politicised tweets. the broadcaster says he won't present the programme until he's reached an agreed and clear position . the corporation, over position. the corporation, over his use of social media. while the announcement was followed by fellow pundits, ian wright and alan shearer saying they also would not appear on saturday's programme in solidarity they said with lineker. so let's find out exactly what's going on with. and good morning. so what is the latest on all of this? where do we stand? well, it started moving quite quickly. night. | started moving quite quickly. night. i mean, this is a thing in the social media era, isn't it? things just gather pace so, so quickly in a way that probably didn't in previous eras. we saw the gary eras. but yeah, we saw the gary lineker air, lineker was taken off air, having previously that he having previously said that he would the would be presenting the show. alan sorry. ian wright alan shearer sorry. ian wright then saying, i'm then follows up by saying, i'm not do it. hashtag not going to do it. hashtag solidarity. alan shearer the same. then started same. and then it started snowballing we then snowballing from there. we then got late last night got a revelation late last night . other presenters been . the other presenters had been asked to not just be present presenting, to be presenting, but also to be a pundh presenting, but also to be a pundit and jermaine jenas has
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pundit. and jermaine jenas has said that he hadn't been offered it he doing it because he was doing something had, something else. but if he had, he wouldn't in a position he wouldn't been in a position to didn't feel obliged to do it. he didn't feel obliged to do it. he didn't feel obliged to it. and then we started to do it. and then we started heanng to do it. and then we started hearing rumours last night that the commentators were were pulling out and pulling croissants, pull out and then wilson experience then steve wilson experience guy at then many years at the bbc. even then many years comes says the comes out and says all the commentators not to be commentators not going to be working tonight's show and working on tonight's show and the would have to the corporation would have to take the live feed from overseas which so was still will be will be commentary and then rumours also around last night the even players, even managers considering not speaking so much that day tonight. so i've never known a situation like this. this is an institution that celebrates 60 years next year. it pulls in a viewing viewing audience of around about 11, 12, 13 million. and they're expensive , right to under expensive, right to under million pounds over three years. so where it leaves the corporation, where it leaves the programme is unknown. but tonight we'll just have to see what the viewing figures are because that would be interesting. we about interesting. when we hear about them, certainly going them, we'll be certainly going to be very interesting as agent.
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thank you. let's talk to sports journalist marker chris journalist mile marker chris scott. to scott. chris, good morning to you. you what do you you. what do you what do you make of all of this ? and make of all of this? and obviously, been in the obviously, you've been in the business a very long time . this business a very long time. this whole impartiality issue. i mean, this is lineker within his rights to do what he's doing whilst being employed by the bbc . do you think ? well, bottom . do you think? well, bottom line is this freelance . so line is this freelance. so that's always what he's maintains. now i'm just going to take you back to the start of the world cup in qatar when gary lineker, the first thing almost he said on the bbc on their first broadcast, it was a speech about human rights. he he was there on his soapbox and it took a few people by surprise, really. i mean , he was there really. i mean, he was there airing , really. i mean, he was there airing, maybe not his views. we don't know who wrote that that speech as it was . but i mean, is speech as it was. but i mean, is that different to what has happened? and his comments on media? i'm not sure it is , media? i'm not sure it is, really. and i think that's why a
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lot of people in the business have come out on his side and as aidan was saying, you know, i mean, nobody nobody wants to work for the bbc tonight. i mean, they will have commentary because they have the what they call the world feed, where people who call the matches commentate matches or commentate on the matches or less well known. but that's what they're going to have. there's going to be no presenter version. nobody will do it. you know, soon as ian wright know, as soon as ian wright said, i'm not doing it, it was like a pack of cards. and so it's real mess, a real mess it's a real mess, a real mess for bbc impartial reality. i mean, trouble is, stephen, mean, the trouble is, stephen, as well know , i mean, the as you well know, i mean, the social media and twitter in has caused a real problem because it it's become an aside for everybody where they feel they can say things that maybe they wouldn't broadcast. i was always told working for a different broadcast so that you don't tweet what you wouldn't broadcast maybe but in different times now and gary's always maintained that you know he he
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believes he doesn't tweet just willy nilly or when he's having a drink he does it when, you know, he believes in something he's not going to back down. and i would think and judging by the way, everyone's lined up behind him industry , then maybe him in the industry, then maybe the are to have to the beeb are going to have to back what do you make of back down. what do you make of the bbc's handling of this? because they kept relatively quiet this week, today, as the story just got bigger and bigger. yesterday bigger. and then yesterday it seemed though they you'd ask seemed as though they you'd ask gary lineker to step aside. gary lineker as to step aside. richard bacon, former tv richard bacon, their former tv bbc presenter, has said they have thrown a canister of petrol on the issue. what do you make of that ? yeah, it's inflamed . i of that? yeah, it's inflamed. i mean, it was three days. i mean, i think the fact that it could have got to the end of the week and nothing happened and all of and nothing happened and all of a sudden, i mean, clearly, what has happened, they've been talking to him saying, can talking to him and saying, can you some kind of statement? talking to him and saying, can ythink some kind of statement? talking to him and saying, can ythink the ;ome kind of statement? talking to him and saying, can ythink the troublerd of statement? talking to him and saying, can ythink the trouble hasf statement? talking to him and saying, can ythink the trouble has beenzment? talking to him and saying, can ythink the trouble has been his nt? i think the trouble has been his reference was it was inflammatory . re reference was it was inflammatory. re he's not reference was it was
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inflammatory . re he's not called inflammatory. re he's not called the bbc . he is inflammatory. re he's not called the bbc. he is the inflammatory. re he's not called the bbc . he is the language. inflammatory. re he's not called the bbc. he is the language. but as soon as you mention 1930s germany that's the that's image that comes into mind isn't it. so they've been talking all week . he has been clear that he's not going to change his mind. so they've come to this impasse, you know, that gap is it doesn't reflect. well on the now i don't think and i the interesting thing is going to be just where it goes now because if he doesn't back down something's got to give then where does it leave much of the day? i mean, some people would say, well, we don't need pundits, we don't need you know, people opinions always divided on social media as now. but some would say. oh, we don't need would any commentators, but not not punst commentators, but not not pundits presenters for much pundits and presenters for much of day. but the majority do of the day. but the majority do . and you know, i mean, something something has got to give. i mean, tonight's going to be a fascinating watch . they'll
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be a fascinating watch. they'll be a fascinating watch. they'll be football , but it will be very be football, but it will be very dry and it'll be. here it is. alfie goes and onto the next week, which is going to be fascinating, i think. well okay, well, let's get your personal opinion, chris. i wanted because i both worked i tell you what, we both worked together for a big broad cast . together for a big broad cast. and, you know, they were various rules and things in place that we, you know, that we had to follow the at the bbc , the follow the at the bbc, the director general, follow the at the bbc, the director general , the dg in 2020 director general, the dg in 2020 said all you know if you're employed by the bbc when it comes to social media, you have to be impartial. and so all the rank and file are doing it. gary lineker has been called in and called in and called in and. now he's done it again. called in and called in and. now he's done it again . i mean, that he's done it again. i mean, that can't be a situation that makes sense. even though he's they're not stopping him have an opinion on, things that he believes in. and he clearly does believe in this issue. the immigration thing , refugees is compassion
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thing, refugees is compassion innit about it. it's the language he's used . well that's language he's used. well that's changed but that's damaging to the organisation and isn't it to the organisation and isn't it to the beeb see which presumably they then have right to say well if you're damaging our refugee you shouldn't, we don't want you . yeah. i mean that's, that's what's happened but i mean if you look at the statement yesterday , it all seems a bit yesterday, it all seems a bit woolly to me until we've got a agreed and clear position on his use of social media, which says to me, you know, they've said to him, look, just, you know, write in a little be. it's all a bit woolly. and now they've come to this where he was maybe overstepped the mark with with that reference so called them but you know it's a reference which inflames a lot of opinion you know so that's the issue they've got to decide now how they're going to go forward with
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his maybe, you know, his use of language , i don't know. but is language, i don't know. but is digging his heels in it may be that he just walks away now. i don't know. but i mean , i think don't know. but i mean, i think the fact he will be feeling good this morning, i think that the fact that everyone has rallied behind him, all of his media colleagues, even the commentator steve wilson coming out last night, i think people thought that would up and do that they would turn up and do job. you know, it's a well job. but, you know, it's a well see is a basic thing. see now, which is a basic thing. if you're country in the if you're in any country in the world, what you'd hear in their coverage of the premier league is you'll see the is what you'll see on the tonight. do think will tonight. what do you think will happen i mean, looking happen then. i mean, looking ahead do ahead next saturday, do you think that this is it possible for it to blow over by by then or you think both sides will? or do you think both sides will? yeah, think there'll be yeah, i don't think there'll be another tonight another programme like tonight is going look so something is going to look so something will give i think the b will back down a bit i think, i don't think we've seen the end of gary he's a popular figure. i mean
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listen it does divide opinion. he earns a lot of money lost of money from the taxpayers and always when you have opinion as people don't agree, there's always who doesn't agree . you always who doesn't agree. you know, gary is i mean, i probably wouldn't have when it comes to social media i always think of what do people want to hear from me and you know gary's not a political guy but he has strong beliefs where do draw the line really when can you say i mean happened to me once i was a former broadcaster and i was accused of crossing the line and it was about protecting football contracts. so i upsets and it blew over . it's the contracts. so i upsets and it blew over. it's the same kind of thing . but you know, the bbc is thing. but you know, the bbc is different because of the impartiality rules and you know, people are people are paying his wages. so there are a lot of people who she just want to stop doing what he does. but you
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know, he is freelance and the bbc have said, you know, we're not going to stop you having an opinion. so i think that he will think about that and there may be a little bit of an impasse and then they'll come and they'll muddle through because what they're going to do, i mean, if nobody's going to do the programme next week, it's a it's a popular the premier it's a popular it's the premier it's a popular it's the premier it's biggest football league it's the biggest football league in world and the bbc are in the world and the bbc are proud having their highlight show saturday show on a saturday night. i think going be a one off think this is going be a one off tonight and a lot of a lot of it's going to be the will rumble on for days because the talks that are going on but i don't think gary is going to stop tweeting put it that way. yeah lovely, scott, thanks very much indeed. good to talk to you this morning it's interesting because i know what if are you i don't know what if you are you sort on the lineker side of all of this don't know because i, i tend to think i'm more the other side. i sort of think if that's what you if that's who you work
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for, then you've got to follow the rules . and i don't like one the rules. and i don't like one rule for one and one rule for everybody else. well, having worked at the bbc for several years, i can i can safely say that there are people within years, i can i can safely say that who've re people within years, i can i can safely say that who've been)ple within years, i can i can safely say that who've been very nithin years, i can i can safely say that who've been very angry at for very long time. i mean, for a very long time. i mean, this isn't the first time that we've gary tweet his we've seen gary tweet his political opinion. there are political opinion. and there are within the bbc, while everybody else rating, rank and file who have to be very strict with themselves, not only on social media, but their personal media, but in their personal lives, example, you're not lives, for example, you're not allowed to protests on allowed to go to two protests on that of thing for fear of that kind of thing for fear of sharing your political opinion. so it is difficult for those within the bbc to see somebody seemingly getting away with sharing their opinion, but not any more. but then we've seen other pundits and presenters pull out. so the bbc were expecting that either no bit of a mess no be fascinating get your thoughts so far you're not backing gary lineker actually do think he's right just to say what he wants. yeah i've got a tweet actually . this is neil tweet actually. this is neil mukherjee who's been in touch
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us. the impartiality at us. he says the impartiality at bbc is vital. documentary as the diana documentary of 1995 have proven to be partial and a gender based reporting . we gender based reporting. we cannot just snap our fingers and call for impartiality . yeah call for impartiality. yeah yeah. well, let us know what you gb views gb news uk in the meantime, if your match of the day fan because it isn't really happening tonight, is it. so why was it though. no, we've got it covered. yeah, we've got it covered. yeah, we've got it covered. we've stepped up haven't . we stepped up to the haven't. we stepped up to the mark. because tonight at mark. yeah. because tonight at 10:00 have got the 10:00 we have got the alternative match of the day with martin packed with with martin dolan packed with stars , with pundits, loads of stars, with pundits, loads of pundh stars, with pundits, loads of pundit so we've got all the football properly covered for you tonight. 10:00. yeah now let's bring you up to date with the other stories that are going on today . and junior doctors on today. and junior doctors belonging to the british medical association they have no association say they have no choice but to strike monday after the health secretary did not attend talks on friday it comes after steve barclay said
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he wanted them to call off the planned three day walkout and negotiate . nearly 40,000 junior negotiate. nearly 40,000 junior doctors voted to take industrial action over demands for a 35% pay action over demands for a 35% pay increase. nhs england says more than 100,000 patients have been treated in wards in the last year . that's having your last year. that's having your vital signs monitored remotely. bosses say the scheme has been a game changer, helping patients avoid unnecessary hospital trips and where where possible, enabung and where where possible, enabling them to be discharged charged sooner. enabling them to be discharged charged sooner . the met office charged sooner. the met office has issued a warning for snow remaining in place for much of scotland over the weekend. it comes as the scottish fire and rescue service also issued an alert about the risk of wildfires. would you believe? fire officials say dry winter conditions can create the ideal circumstances for wildfires spread . should our attention to spread. should our attention to the other side of the channel, should we cause uk is going to
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help fund a detention centre on french to try to stop the flow of crossing into the uk via the channel on small boats. yes, the deal was agreed in paris yesterday between prime minister rishi sunak and the french president emmanuel macron at a summit to tackle the issue now it's thought the uk is going to pay it's thought the uk is going to pay about £480 million. over three is to help fund the measures which should be fully operational by 2026. well let's go over this and more. we're joined now by the founder of youth vote uk, alexander cairns. great to have you in the studio with us. alexander i'm so let's talk first of all about that summit because it was significant, wasn't it, the first summit in first anglo—french summit in years and it certainly looked very didn't between very cosy, didn't it, between rishi sunak and emmanuel macron. yeah. there's been this yeah. and there's been this bromance described . think i bromance described. think i welcome it. i think is very good to see a good working relationship between the french president sunak president and rishi sunak obviously liz truss obviously you know liz truss famously said the jury's the jury's out on rishi so also on
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macron so it's good to see them working together. yeah yeah. i'm supportive broadly of what we've seen announced so far. i mean, we haven't got the returns deal . we knew that was never going to happen . the government wasn't to happen. the government wasn't expecting that to come off. but is this a signifier step to reduce , you know, just tackling reduce, you know, just tackling what is a big for the uk? i don't know if it's a significant step because i think to be honest, what we've seen is naturally, you know, with nearly 50,000 people, the, the went through the kind boats last year in 2022. we actually haven't necessarily seen anyone that's been flown to rwanda . we haven't been flown to rwanda. we haven't we've been paying the french for a couple of years . those numbers a couple of years. those numbers have been going up. so have to be fair, they've they've apparently caught 50% of people trying to cross the channel so far this year. but so it's interesting because actually we've maybe caught more but we're still seeing a massive backlog in the home office of actually dealing with those applications , 120,000 backlog.
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applications, 120,000 backlog. we haven't necessarily the policy was to have people say back, you know, that to the country or send back to rwanda we haven't seen too many of that. so there's a lot that. so i think there's a lot of rhetoric and numbers of rhetoric here and i'd numbers but in terms of the but actually in terms of the detail operationally detail operation operationally the a so it the home office is a mess. so it actually means it's probably why rishi sunak wants to france to do of the operational work, do more of the operational work, because that it because the uk has shown that it just have the capacity just doesn't have the capacity to it. we found a £232 to do it. we found a £232 million worth in individual payments 2014 to the french. we're now about another 500 million. i wanted bring you rob's thoughts just now alexander this is in on email robin devon here we go again. rishi throwing more our money down the drain. macron is laughing all the way to the bank. what do you make of that ? bank. what do you make of that? yeah, i agree. actually, i think the reality is quite interesting . we haven't heard how much the french are spending on this, probably it's a lot probably because it's not a lot actually. the we've been actually. well, the we've been teased the government is saying five times as much as we are.
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yeah and i really don't know what to make of that. i could be true. could not be true. i think to be honest, the fact that previously you were spending about 60, 70 million year if about 60, 70 million a year if you work out 500 million across 380 million, it's gone up three x. reality is i think x. the reality is i don't think this just can't chuck money at this just can't chuck money at this issue it's a very complicated issue actually complicated issue and actually you know as a lot of people have been rightly saying, this is more uk than a french issue more of a uk than a french issue and therefore the french have got they're not going got leverage. they're not going to you know, five, 600 to spend, you know, five, 600 million operational issue. million on an operational issue. that's french that's more of a than a french issue for sure. but isn't it money well spent in the money well spent for us in the sense if it's stopping sense that if it's stopping people in france in detention , people in france in detention, in france , if they're not in france, if they're not crossing the channel, then not costing us anything here. we're not having to accommodate them in a we're not having to pay for deep and those which are deep and all those which are surrounding . well, we'll have to surrounding. well, we'll have to wait and see what happens with the it it's going to take a couple of years to become operate or there's going to be obviously a couple of hundred
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officers that on the range of beaches. but let's remember it's a very, very big channel. and i think operation it can be very difficult and you've difficult to stop. and you've got in terms of the got to remember, in terms of the smugglers, very creative smugglers, they're very creative with this. so you with how they do this. so you know, proof going to be know, the proof is going to be in the per day. we're going to have to see if the numbers come. and unfortunately, i suspect that it's going to make a smoother but for them, smoother dent. but for them, our money, we're getting the return on investment, not on investment, probably not enough dent the british enough of a dent for the british populace. know, war populace. i think, you know, war and of living crisis. and the cost of living crisis. let's spend £500 million on this issue. we could be spending £500 million of million on, you know, range of things the nhs, things supporting the nhs, whatever but think whatever it is, but i think it's, about priorities and it's, it's about priorities and i know if many people i don't know if many people thinks it's the right money spent at right. okay. spent at the right. okay. alexander thank very alexander thank you very much indeed. we'll do everything in sync. would love to know what sync. i would love to know what your is it money well spent your are. is it money well spent 7 your are. is it money well spent ? pieces think ? these pieces certainly think so on twitter, 480 million is a lot of money to pay to france. he says. but if this new agreement is more successful than the last one, it should be worth it. it's going to be. it's
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going to be interesting to the problem with all of this, and this why what stretch your this is why what stretch your patience is. it's going to take time . it's all going to take time. it's all going to take time. it's all going to take time , but much more of an time, but much more of an immediate impact if the government's bill gets through and people be sort of immediately deported , because immediately deported, because the problem with that is deported to where? because we haven't got a return agreement in place yet . so their are in place yet. so their are questions rishi sunak, of course , it would stop the boats by the end of the year, which seems like a very big task the moment to frozen back at on that you think are now sticking with politics of course it's the budget next week and ahead of that the chancellor jeremy spoken to esther and philip his plans to deliver growth and tackle inflation it's not what i want at all but by the way liz truss was right to say that the central question is how we deliver growth where i think the
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mini budget was wrong was to say you can borrow to cut taxes because that's not sustainable, that's not money that you've got, that's money you're borrowing . and so if we're going borrowing. and so if we're going to cut taxes permanently , then to cut taxes permanently, then it needs to be a tax that we earn through growth. and the first step is stability . and for first step is stability. and for stability, you need responsible pubuc stability, you need responsible public finances. stability, you need responsible public finances . and that's why public finances. and that's why we took some difficult decisions. we did increase we actually cut spending by more than we increased taxes in the autumn statement . so it was a autumn statement. so it was a very, very difficult statement what we now have is a responsible outlook for public the markets have recognised that by bringing down mortgage rates, interest and we're on track bnng interest and we're on track bring inflation down. but if you're saying to me as a conservative chancellor, do i want to bring down taxes? well, i want to bring personal taxes because . that is at the heart of because. that is at the heart of what being a conservative is.
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but i want to bring down business taxes, even more so. we have now to use these words, a responsible outlook for britain's future economy. now, that's interesting. i think that's interesting. i think that's really interesting. do we want that or do we want to look long term or do you want immediate boost in your purse ? i immediate boost in your purse? i think the mini budget might have forced his hand in the end. the fallout from the mini budget might mean as you said, he wants to cut taxes , but it might not to cut taxes, but it might not be the best idea in terms of britain's longer term economic future. yeah, i mean, you've got to and it's difficult because politicians want to give voters what they want, especially conservative, because i think because because that's how you win votes , basically. but they win votes, basically. but they doing a good thing by saying, well, actually being and we know you don't want this but responsible but i just i think it's fascinating it's going to be a fascinating in—depth into you can watch it all on esther
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and phil show that's at 10:00 this morning and we'll to them both actually just after 9:00 now let's head up to scotland now, shall we? because the race for the scottish national party's new leader and the country's new first minister is continuing full steam ahead this weekend. yeah, they're battling it the airwaves but it out on the airwaves but they're also trying to win over snp privately latest snp privately in the latest string hustings yes the ballots to select the next leader will be open noon on monday and will close on the 7th of march. so who better to go through the latest with this rather than the political episode the scottish daily mail, michael blakley, who us now, michael , good daily mail, michael blakley, who us now, michael, good morning to you and thank you for your company this morning. so take us through hustings last through at the hustings last night, what were the main takeaways and do we learn anything new? yes, it was on another one of these hustings events. there's almost every night since this campaign launched either a televised debate or a hustings debate . debate or a hustings debate. last night it was in edinburgh and there was quite a range of quite interesting at the start
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of the event when forbes was pressed on some of her christian views and her opposition to same sex marriage and one of the more bizarre things happened was the candidate ash regan talked about her plans for a currency and a scottish currency and independent scotland. she came up with some new designs , this up with some new designs, this currency, one of them featured a unicorn . and she also claims unicorn. and she also claims that this progression to a scottish currency could happen within . weeks of an independence within. weeks of an independence vote which is a position that a lot of people think and an lot of people in the snp think is pretty bonkers . yeah. i mean pretty bonkers. yeah. i mean it's fascinating from what you mentioned, you've said that if they're the main sort of takeaways from last night, why aren't they talking about matters that are direct affecting people in scotland right now? i mean, there's a cost of living crisis. there's i mean, i know you've some strikes
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north of border, but there's still strike action taking place as a what we're told, a crisis in the health service. isn't this what what people really want to hear ? yes, i think that want to hear? yes, i think that is because when some of the candidates have been talking publicly in media interviews , publicly in media interviews, kate forbes, for example , has kate forbes, for example, has consistently about the economy and the cost of living increases. however, when it comes to these events that are filled with snp members , they filled with snp members, they always tend to be shifted back . always tend to be shifted back. the issues like independence , i the issues like independence, i think you see there the juggling act that some of the candidates have. they that the wider public don't want to be talking about independence , want to be talking independence, want to be talking about the things that are to them . but when it comes to them. but when it comes to a room full of snp members independence and the independence and the independence is one of the most crucial things for them and they're all simple. and that was
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really yesterday, which i thought was, was interesting and perhaps shows some of the challenges for these these candidates and it showed that whichever candidate wins there are more voters that see they're less likely to vote snp under that candidate than the more likely so there's actually a real challenge to the snp and its push for independence by the contest because started to look to a lot of people like the wheels are coming off after 15 years of snp growth and they could have some pretty challenging times ahead . yeah. challenging times ahead. yeah. oh that's interesting . look, oh that's interesting. look, michael, really good to see you this morning. thanks very much indeed. we're going to keep across of that, of course, across all of that, of course, at the ballot opens monday , but at the ballot opens monday, but till the 27th, which . a week on till the 27th, which. a week on the sun is as best party weeks. is that right? that's right. but anyway , happening a lot quicker anyway, happening a lot quicker than it did with the tories. it
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certainly is. and it's so interesting. i mean, the internal divisions from the snp really are being laid bare and it's also i suppose we saw the same thing with the tories. perhaps that is the nature of the it's never, the hustings. yeah, it's never, it's never a good time for a political party to get the new leader be perfectly honest, leader to be perfectly honest, you quite short, you want to keep it quite short, you want to keep it quite short, you wait. yeah. but anyway, you can wait. yeah. but anyway, look, we're going to look, coming up. we're going to talk things royal, including talk all things royal, including prince becoming the duke prince edward becoming the duke of edinburgh .
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welcome at the time. it's 731. still lots to come on today's programme . yeah. we're going to programme. yeah. we're going to be getting the latest on the six nafions be getting the latest on the six nations before england play france late this afternoon, talking to former england rugby international tom von dell . international tom von dell. that's at 820 and at 920 will be speaking to actress sue holderness about her work to tackle fraud among over five. yeah if you . oh, that name yeah if you. oh, that name sounds familiar. marlene it's marlene from only fools and horses. we're very excited about. very excited. and she's got a really strong message. she's been conned herself online, so she's got experience of this and she'll be able to share some really good tips on how we need to just make our roles ourselves, just more aware of what out for loads of of what look out for loads of thoughts through. thank you, keep them coming in gbviews@gbnews.uk . we'll go gbviews@gbnews.uk. we'll go through lots in just a moment.
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but we need to talk royal because as we told you yesterday and i think it's really welcome news that king charles has made prince edward the duke of edinburgh. it was a birthday present, actually. it's significant. yeah. so it's 59th birthday yesterday . yes. the birthday yesterday. yes. the announcement comes off the back of rumours. the duke and duchess of rumours. the duke and duchess of sussex will attend the coronation may. oh, oh. let's talk to royal correspondent michael cole who joins us now. michael, good to you. look, let's with the positive, should the duke and duchess of edinburgh, i mean , were edinburgh, i mean, were expecting this ever since philip died. however, it does seem just like a very fitting title for this hard working royal couple. yes indeed. that's right. good morning to you both . if you are morning to you both. if you are the king, what do you give your baby brother for his 59th birthday? well, of course here we are have a royal dukedom and
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here it is. and you're absolutely right. i knew at one time prince would quite well . time prince would quite well. and i know for certainty that for the last three decades he's worked extremely hard. the duke of edinburgh award scheme . i of edinburgh award scheme. i work for a company , was a major work for a company, was a major sponsor of the scheme and we paid for fundraising dinners in cardiff and birmingham and london and he was always there . london and he was always there. in fact, i remember the one in birmingham and he was sitting next to catherine zeta , but that next to catherine zeta, but that was before he he met his own wife, sophie rhys—jones, and she met douglas, of course , and he met douglas, of course, and he was always very affable and as you say . it is was always very affable and as you say. it is quite was always very affable and as you say . it is quite interest you say. it is quite interest saying that when he did get married to sophie, the duke of edinburgh , to both of them, how edinburgh, to both of them, how would you like to become duke and duchess of edinburgh ? and of and duchess of edinburgh? and of course, i said, well, thank you very much grandpa. our father in
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his case and it was even promulgated on the buckingham palace website that they were going to be and then it suddenly disappeared ahead and it looked as if the king was thinking twice about it. and there were rumours was going to rumours that he was going to give duchess of give the title of duchess of edinburgh to princess charlotte and that would have been a bit galling for sophie to be trumped by an eight year old princess. but anyway, the king's done the right and the new duke of right thing and the new duke of was up there in in in the in the great city of edinburgh where i once lived , meeting the people once lived, meeting the people of his new bailiwick and looking very happy about it. of his new bailiwick and looking very happy about it . very happy very happy about it. very happy to see them both. certainly very welcome news for very hard working royal couple. we do have to have a quick word. i'm afraid on harry and meghan because it's believed they are now coming to the coronation. well, i think that's that's a very misleading story, actually, because the king has played a blinder in
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this. he always made it clear that both of them were very welcome to his coronation . and welcome to his coronation. and he's left it to them to decide whether to come. now, they haven't said one way or the other, if they decline , will other, if they decline, will make them look a little bit mean spirited and a little bit petty . and of course, if they accept it , leave them open to the it, leave them open to the charge of hypocrisy because they've been knocking seven bells off the institution of monarchy and indeed, most of the members of the royal family over the last couple of years. so if they do turn up, we'll say, well, what was all that all about? you know? and there is a slight complication in that of the coronation on day six of may four it in your diary is the fourth birthday of prince . so fourth birthday of prince. so what's going to happen ? i don't what's going to happen? i don't believe we know yet. they haven't said . it could be that haven't said. it could be that meghan, the duchess of sussex, stays at home california with
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the little boy and perhaps prince harry here alone. that's going to a lot of tension about and i think perhaps or later but better sooner they should say what their are because actually we don't know ellie. you know bet we don't find out until the day before. michael nothing would surprise me really good to talk to you today. thank you . talk to you today. thank you. thank you. how would be awkward, wouldn't it either ? i guess wouldn't it either? i guess that's another issue. i don't know which side of the fence to come on that one. i come down on on that one. i don't know what's i don't know what's the best. i really don't. anyway look, they'll go into all the papers heading way in just a couple of minutes .
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welcome back, everybody. you're watching and listening to breakfast with stephen daily . breakfast with stephen daily. let's now look at the newspapers for you this morning. will kick off with the express. it's gone with that £478 million deal with france to try to end the small boats crisis. so really the independent has questioned what britain is getting out by handing france, £500 million to solve the small boats crisis. the times has support from fellow presenters who've refused to stand in for gary lineker, following his suspension from match of the day and the daily mail also reporting on gary lineker, his suspension claiming one source who described the presenter's mutiny as a proper
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bbc crisis. let's go through the papers in a bit more detail with political editor for huffpost uk kevin schofield and assistant editor for the spectator jacinda you. good morning, both of you. and let's kick with the mail, should we? kevin and trying to get chancellor wants the long term sick to get back to work . term sick to get back to work. yeah i mean we've seen the governments do this for quite some time actually successive policies obviously not entirely successful, but the budget and wait and stay and jeremy hunt will unveil a work force review andifs will unveil a work force review and it's two pronged so there's at one end the look to get long term sick back to work and introducing more conditions quality basically so you'll get more support but to go back to what but if you don't take a job then you have benefits reduced so proper carrot and carrot and stick that exactly . and at the stick that exactly. and at the other end, the there's always going to be measures try and encourage over 50 who have left the workforce since the pandemic
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to come back because basically they need to pay tax they live with me kevin this is next next year anyway. and but the thought they thought maybe we should give up. what can you 50. sadly not an option for me , but not an option for me, but apparently 600 for a thousand adults. i've left the labour markets since the start of the pandemic. as a lot of people and it's a lot of tax revenue that the treasury did a lot to get their hands in order to fund pubuc their hands in order to fund public services, grow the economy, etc. so yes, that's going one of the key. and going to be one of the key. and that's with pensions, that's to do with pensions, isn't yeah that mean isn't it? yeah does that mean that those changes , pensions, that those changes, pensions, would they apply to everyone, not 50, going not just those over 50, going back no, it would back? i think no. no, it would apply back? i think no. no, it would apply to everyone now. so good news most. for news for most. you go for looking from our point of looking at it from our point of view, but why not? and but yeah, i'm but i think it's going to be a state goes budget of a lot it would not want tax cuts that's not going to be tax cuts certainly not in this budget so yeah this going to be one of the
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big ticket announcements. and certainly jeremy hunt is certainly what jeremy hunt is alluding is yeah, full alluding to is yeah, the full interview with and phil interview with esther and phil at morning saying at 10:00 this morning saying exactly that he'd like to see tax it's not going to tax cuts, but it's not going to happen wednesday least happen this wednesday at least cyndi , let's look at the mail, cyndi, let's look at the mail, shall we? and this back as the prime minister says, ukraine will in negotiation will have to end in negotiation . yep. so prime minister has . yep. so the prime minister has been criticised by various senior and former senior military faces about saying that. so yesterday in a press conference, macron that he said that this war will have to end in negotiation at some point that all conflict and a negotiated but these senior military figures have said that this is of defeatist and this is kind of defeatist and ukraine could win this war if we give them enough military aid they take back all of its they could take back all of its territory i think it was territory and i think it was interesting. cindy we're got interesting. oh cindy we're got to at problem with you. to look at a problem with you. i'll you i'm going to i'll tell you what i'm going to do, you're saying do, because what you're saying is you're saying very is what you're saying is very interesting. i'm going to interesting. i'm just going to stand so can talk stand behind you so you can talk into my mind to what i think interesting about this story is that the health expectations
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have changed over the last year .even have changed over the last year . even is a bit . even this is a bit distracting. is it? yeah so? but over the last year, you know, at the beginning, the war, people thought you no one can this end was afraid of russia. now we're talking taking back crimea talking about taking back crimea , of the lost , talking about all of the lost ukrainian and ukrainian territories. and it's interesting west has interesting how the west has kind the expectations, you kind of the expectations, you know, i think know, where the it's i think it's very interesting look we're going to go back to kevin now, but we get to swap your mind. kevin you have to do the things you have to do in this business and you'll know it's live telly. these things didn't happen. you kevin, let's have a look at you then. the times this is then. the times and this is a phrases as pig out to phrases such as pig out to humanise people we're humanise overweight people we're being told finally so yes so the british dietetic association issued new guidelines on how to refer to people who are overweight and so phrases such as pig out are out because it dehumanise disease. but that's not if you pick out that's doesn't mean you're overweight
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doesn't mean you're overweight doesit doesn't mean you're overweight does it mean you're just having a pig does it mean you're just having a pig out? yeah i mean, i don't understand why that. yeah, i ten itend understand why that. yeah, i ten i tend to agree what on obesity. you know, i like to see that in so say wah wah on obesity. oh right. because that's like attack on someone and the guidelines also suggest avoiding terms such as obese person or overweight person in favour of person with obesity or with a higher weight . and oh, come on. higher weight. and oh, come on. and they also point to things like monica and friends mum's all she used to show you flashbacks of when she was overweight and a person with obesity . yes, that is out so. obesity. yes, that is out so. yes. so that about and not want to stigmatise people who are you know this is you don't want to stigmatise you mean you don't to stigmatise you mean you don't to stigmatise and you don't want people to feel terrible about their you know people should be have body positive you've have be body positive but you've also got to do what is healthy . also got to do what is healthy. and i'll tell you what i really
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hate is the people with obesity because it did with diabetes, you know , not a diabetic. you're you know, not a diabetic. you're a person with diabetes. and i of all splitting is the words i'm well and actually there is something positive . i mean it's something positive. i mean it's different with obesity i guess , different with obesity i guess, but that's from a diabetic point of view . there is something of view. there is something positive about saying, i am a diabetic, i am a type one diabetic, i am a type one diabetic, because if you own that, can then manage it that, you can then manage it more. yeah. rather than saying it, it's something it, it's just something that's happening. literally happening. it's literally splitting and was splitting hairs. and i was saying kevin agreement, saying to kevin in agreement, i wish whoever wrote this guide saying to kevin in agreement, i wish viget ver wrote this guide saying to kevin in agreement, i wish viget a r wrote this guide saying to kevin in agreement, i wish viget a realyte this guide saying to kevin in agreement, i wish viget a real job:his guide saying to kevin in agreement, i wish viget a real job knowride saying to kevin in agreement, i wish viget a real job know like would get a real job know like i'm sure that's mutton. many more important things for this to on with. well to be getting on with. well you'd they're also a you'd think so. they're also a medical terms i mean, to medical terms only. i mean, to be obese is a medical term to be overweight is as well is what the doctor is what the nhs would refer . i dunno what they refer to as. i dunno what they say about putting on a bit of timber back of timber is that on the back of the what's been added. no
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the well what's been added. no especially now that i've done that. i've dieticians that. yeah oh i've dieticians still you. i think it's very useful as a diabetic to see a dietician . very useful. anyway, dietician. very useful. anyway, there you go . cindy. kevin, there you go. cindy. kevin, we're going to leave it for now. if you get your battery sorted and then we do eat you out soon it works. we we'll see you silencing me is a sign of things to see in the next hour. thank you very much indeed. okay. let's bring you up to with what else is going on today. let's bring you up to with what else is going on today . and else is going on today. and junior doctors belonging to the british medical association say they no choice but to they have no choice but to strike monday after the health secretary not attend talks on friday. it comes after steve barclay said wanted them to call off a planned three day walkout and negotiate . nearly 40,000 and negotiate. nearly 40,000 junior doctors voted to take industrial action over demands for 35% pay in great chris. nhs england says more than 100,000 patients have been treated in virtual wards over the last year having vital signs. while this is remotely say it's a game changer because it helps patients avoid to the hospital
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and can also enable them to be discharged sooner. the and can also enable them to be discharged sooner . the met discharged sooner. the met office has issued a warning for snow remaining in place for much of scotland the weekend. it comes as the scottish and rescue service also issued alert about the risk of wildfires you believe? fire officials say winter conditions can create the ideal circumstances for wildfires to spread . now bloated wildfires to spread. now bloated egos. wildfires to spread. now bloated egos . know wildfires to spread. now bloated egos. know you wildfires to spread. now bloated egos . know you get wildfires to spread. now bloated egos. know you get a wildfires to spread. now bloated egos . know you get a lot of them egos. know you get a lot of them in the business. you get them evenin in the business. you get them even in hollywood. so sometimes those egos require a bit of deflation, especially during oscar season. yes. and for more than 40 years, they've been the objective of the razzie awards. oh they celebrate best of the worst in film, and they're announced today before the oscars. so who get the dishonours this year, stephanie? she's here morning, dishonours this year, stephanie? she's here morning , steve she's here morning, steve rogers. i her as a little bit
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when the stars was turned off as well because they often do. i think it's such a good actually because i think is everything in life you need balance can't just always be awarded for good stuff sometimes cinemagoers do to have their say on movies which haven't been so entertaining, haven't been so entertaining, haven't been so entertaining, haven't been great and that is what the razzies a full. but there has been some prize nominations like instance nominations like for instance tom hanks. i love him. i think tom hanks. i love him. ithink he's brilliant but he's actually one worse supporting actor for his role as colonel lewis parker in elvis for playing his manager, causing and also he won another razzie today for worst screen combo in elvis because they've same for all latex that was put on his face to play in the movie as well but surprisingly blonde is actually ana de armas she's up for best actress tomorrow in the oscars and she the picture won worst picture today for blondes and there was like eight nominations that was up for it. so i just i watched on netflix. yes. it is.
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so the why they've put blonde up there because they're saying that they keep on dishonouring marilyn monroe even following her death and you know with blonde there were certain bits of it where it was really exaggerated. and i think a lot of people think it's true to life, which it isn't. but know also, which is quite funny for awards, they've actually awards it themselves for the worst actress their blunder because earlier this year they sparked a lot of controversy they were going to and they nominated a 12 year old actress riot wine karen armstrong obviously at 12 years old. that's a bit distasteful. so they've actually award to themselves for actress of blonde which is quite well that's quite good with a face on the chin. yeah in that way and last year as like they also made the mistake they awarded bruce willis as for was acting performance and then they didn't know actually had been diagnosed with aphasia so they also rescinded that award said i think they're trying to find the
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balance self—aware. yeah that's the main thing. i think, you know, a lot of people think the oscars can be quite egotistic . oscars can be quite egotistic. so yeah, so i guess caught my eyes as the redeemer of all. yeah so this is basically it's for the actor who should be on the list, but they actually think he should get a pass and should actually be awarded for their acting talent. and this yearit their acting talent. and this year it goes to colin farrell . year it goes to colin farrell. right. he was was a nominee for worst actress , first of all. worst actress, first of all. yeah but there you go. no, no, no. a front runner. yeah. so it's quite interesting. i do like those who say often, you know , they're just sort of know, they're just sort of dished out and they did any of the stars turn up for that? they didn't turn up. this rest joseline is not apparently happy for being nominated for best actor. this year, so he's been quite vocal on that and in the past they actually force eddie murphy to retire from acting because he wants one less actor for that. and he said actually made reflect on his career. made him reflect on his career. so razzies do have a lot of so the razzies do have a lot of power. oh, i still like it
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though. it a lot of star though. it has a lot of star power sort of doctrinally, i power sort of doctrinally, but i reckon it does take a blow reckon it does take a real blow to your don't you think? if to your ego, don't you think? if you get around that, especially. but sometimes you do need to be turned you do see it makes turned and you do see it makes want to work harder. now, i don't goodie bags don't know if do goodie bags i don't know if do goodie bags i don't think they do, but the oscars do. i was looking in the pink ones in the oscars goodie bag for tonight and it's mean i mean it's ridiculous like sort of £40,000 worth of holidays , of £40,000 worth of holidays, you know, what do you know? well, that's nothing. the oscars, this is like £1,000,000,000. you know, company in awards ceremony for them. all they've had to do is call a couple of mates and just get all and you know get back all sorted and you know what's be expected. if you what's to be expected. if you want the to turn up the, want the stars to turn up the, goodie always important . goodie bag is always important. isn't that fashion? people that don't it though. yeah. don't need it though. yeah. i don't need it though. yeah. i don't think about don't need to think about themselves. they to donate that. actually prefer them to actually i would prefer them to donate to charities donate that to charities actually that the money they would on goodie bags would spend on goodie bags donating it to them that be a more worthy cause. i'd be something 110% so needed . oh
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something 110% so needed. oh interesting stuff . stephanie, as interesting stuff. stephanie, as always, thank you very simplicity. you're the likes of norway . yes. you're talking norway. yes. you're talking about livestrong. oh don't know. gary lineker , the celebrities gary lineker, the celebrities who are voicing their support for him. right okay. so you don't look too happy? no we'll talk about that later. oh, look , it's the biggest story in town , he said. and we're going to continue to talk about it throughout the program today. going be talking, of course, going to be talking, of course, about from match about his suspension from match of tonight. yes, it's of the day tonight. yes, it's causing you one of causing controversy. you one of those ones supports him , those ones who supports him, like colleagues on like all of his colleagues on the think the the show, or do you think the bbc's done the right thing? and it's he took a back. it's about time he took a back. let know. gb views. but let us know. gb views. but first, good morning. i'm alex deakin .
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at good morning i'm alex deakin and this is your latest weather update from the met office. it will be turning mild this weekend but it's cold out there this morning, potentially pretty icy . well, especially where icy. well, especially where we've had some snow the culprit for that snow. this area , low for that snow. this area, low pressure cleared away . pressure has now cleared away. weather fronts are trying to push from west, but for most push from the west, but for most places, it's a dry , sunny start. places, it's a dry, sunny start. but it is frosty out that now weather front is providing dylan dam in the southwest . mostly dam in the southwest. mostly rain here but some snow the moors and as that wet weather creeps into parts of wales and
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northern ireland's here to a little bit of snow is likely dunng little bit of snow is likely during the day again mostly over hills however for much of northern and eastern england and most of scotland it'll be a fine bright day with sunny spells, but it is cold temperatures for five, six, seven or eight, perhaps in one or two spots. it is tending milder, though, in the southwest. that is a sign of things to come. but the cold air still in place over northern england and scotland. so this england and scotland. so as this wet later wet weather comes in later today, the midlands today, parts the midlands too, we going see some we are going to see some snowfall not lasting too long, but it could cause some further disruption spreading into scotland . the night slippery scotland. the night slippery conditions on the roads. so yes , the met office do have another warning in place. it won't be as cold tomorrow morning as it is this morning. most staying above freezing, still cold enough freezing, but still cold enough for and snow be falling for sleet and snow to be falling first across northern first thing across northern scotland for a good part of england. wales tomorrow is dry in
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gary lineker sidelined from match of the day in a row over impartiality. good morning . it's impartiality. good morning. it's 8:00 on saturday, the 11th of march. this is breakfast on gb news with stephen and ellie. these are your top stories today in the bbc is suspended. gary lineker from match of the day after he criticised the government's asylum policies , government's asylum policies, referring to 1930s german. the
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programme will air without a studio presenter or any pundits or in fact any match commentators . after they all commentators. after they all said they stand in solidarity with the presenter . do uk is to with the presenter. do uk is to fund a new detention centre in france to tackle small boat channel crossings? the prime minister said the french president has agreed to a £480 million payout over the next three years to help the ongoing crisis and flat face. dogs have risen in popularity over recent years. but at what cost ? we're years. but at what cost? we're going to be talking to a vet amid warnings that breeds like puqs amid warnings that breeds like pugs are twice as likely to experience breathing difficulties . and you've got any difficulties. and you've got any pictures of pugs ? they send them pictures of pugs? they send them in. we love a puppy picture. and we do. we do. but i have concerns about pugs. the so popular. but they're not healthy . they're so cute. they look nice. but it's not a healthy way to be. it's true. victorian love victorian here. one of the producers, she brings in hip hop
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every friday and he's lovely and he's a pug. but there are concerns about that breathing issue. know what issue. so do let us know what you about that. own you think about that. do you own a is that something you a pug? is that something you worry views gb news worry about? gb views at gb news dot chuck . now to our top story dot chuck. now to our top story and gary lineker is to step back from presenting match of the day tonight following his row with the bbc over his politicised tweets. the bbc says he won't present the sports programme until they've reached an agreed and clear position over his use of social media. while the announcement was followed by fellow pundits, ian wright and alan shearer saying they would also not appear on tonight's programme in solidarity with lineker. well, let's talk to our reporter jack carson, who's outside the bbc's broadcast house in salford for us this morning. so jack, it's going to be just a shell of a show tonight . be just a shell of a show tonight. that's right. the situation has changed
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drastically over the past 24 hours. it looked like yesterday the show would go ahead as normal , but the show would go ahead as normal, but it was in the evening. and of late afternoon that everything started to change. it's thought that within the bbc hierarchy above bbc sports bosses wanted gary lineker to make a public announcement, essentially amounting to an apology after speaking to them, he started to inform other presenters pundits that he was not going to present the show and that he'd been asked to step back from presenting . and so match of the presenting. and so match of the day said that it would essentially be a programme to go ahead without presenters or punst ahead without presenters or pundits because the likes of ian wright, shearer, wright, alan shearer, alex scott, micah richards all said that they stand in that they would stand in solidarity gary lineker and solidarity with gary lineker and not be part of that show . the not be part of that show. the attention then turned to the commentators and last night we got a statement from the match of the day commentators in the lead commentator steve wilson, who said that as commentators on match day, we've decided to match the day, we've decided to step tomorrow night's step down from tomorrow night's broadcast , we're comforted
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broadcast, we're comforted that football fans who want to watch their teams should still be able football fans who want to watch th
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to see what will happen. i think that's what many people are thinking morning . certainly thinking this morning. certainly going different going to look very different tonight. yeah, tonight. much of the day. yeah, it is. is about love. i mean, it is. it is about love. i mean, i would love to know what you really think. i just want to go back to pull it in writing. this came couple of hours ago, came in a couple of hours ago, actually, i just think it's actually, but i just think it's actually, but i just think it's a really interesting that a really interesting point that paula i don't paula makes. she says, i don't care the bbc employees care where the bbc employees air their politics or not, their views on politics or not, but comparing these things to germany 1930s germany in the 1930s was disrespectful millions disrespectful to the millions who in war ii. so he who died in world war ii. so he does deserve some kind of punishment, a balance punishment, and that's a balance . that's a balanced view, i think, because it is it because he tweeted something he tweeted and something political, which does all the political, which he does all the time is it because he used time or is it because he used that frame of reference , which, that frame of reference, which, i mean, you can't compare to germany . i mean, you can't compare to germany. come on. i mean, so many people . that is the line many people. that is the line that's been crossed and that is reference. and that let us know what you think, how the bbc handled this the right way should gary lineker have stepped back? let us know, gbviews@gbnews.uk. not gbviews@gbnews.uk. but do not fare? no. usually watch match of
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the day. we've got you covered. you can no point watching it tonight. exactly. i mean, it really is a different really is a very different tonight because have a star tonight because we have a star studded up tonight. we're studded line up tonight. we're going match of the day going to have a match of the day alternative on news at alternative here on gb news at 10 d0 alternative here on gb news at 10 do make sure you do 10 pm. do make sure you do that. dolans hosting that because it is star studded. it also is pundit stilted and it's going to be it's a proper football show so not i'm just not messing about a proper football show tonight. you're not going to miss out so you won't miss a thing. so give that a whirl. maybe we'll make it a regular thing. exactly. you never know. it will take over. i forget 50 million viewers with this match of the day, a winner . oh, you could be. anyway let's bnng . oh, you could be. anyway let's bring you up to date with all the other top stories this morning at 8:06. junior doctors belonging to the british medical association say they have no choice but to strike on monday after secretary did after the health secretary did not talks on friday. it not attend talks on friday. it comes after state board. he said he wanted them to call off a planned three day walkout and negotiate . nearly 40,000 junior
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negotiate. nearly 40,000 junior doctors voted to take industrial action over demands for 35% pay rise . nhs england says more than rise. nhs england says more than 100,000 patients have been treated in virtual or wards over the last year. having vital signs on the set remotely . signs on the set remotely. bosses say it's a game changer. changer helping patients avoid trips to the hospital and also enabung trips to the hospital and also enabling them to be discharged. sooner the met office has issued a warning for snow remaining in place for much of scotland over the weekend. it comes as the scottish fire and rescue service also issued an alert about the risk of wildfires . fire risk of wildfires. fire officials say dry winter conditions can create the ideal circumstances for wildfires to spread . it's very hard to on spread. it's very hard to on wildfires because you have dry conditions. yes, but it's not dry at the moment, is it? more snow to come, we were told. and rain, however, it's all to do
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with the fact that there's been a very dry winter's about ground. sacha and all that sort of thing. so it's it might sound crackers, but actually it's a very real concern . got to be very real concern. got to be careful. so no , i'm going to say careful. so no, i'm going to say no barbecues , but he's going to no barbecues, but he's going to be out barbecuing in this sort of weather. now, there are some crazy people out there doing things like there are things like that. there are people wearing shorts, you people still wearing shorts, you know. oh, do see does know. oh, do you see them? does it man upset me. still wearing shorts. there's one. shorts. there's always one. always was legs always one. was it was. was legs blue? yeah. they were awful . why blue? yeah. they were awful. why would you wear shorts? i was wrapped up the nines with my wrapped up to the nines with my scarf my i've got my long scarf and my i've got my long johns on as we speak. as you speak? yeah, i got some. now, you know, now uk is to help you know, now the uk is to help fund a detention centre on french soil. it's all, of course, to trying to stop the flow of migrants crossing the uk via the channel in those small boats. yes, the deal was agreed in paris yesterday between prime minister and the minister rishi sunak and the french emmanuel macron french president emmanuel macron at a summit to tackle the issue . it's thought the uk will . now it's thought the uk will pay
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. now it's thought the uk will pay about £480 million over the next three years to help fund the measures which are expected to be fully operational by 2026. well, let's go over that and more. we're joined now by columnist and parliamentary sketch writer madeleine grant now joins us in the studio . good now joins us in the studio. good morning to you, madeleine . first morning to you, madeleine. first of all, let's look at this summit as a whole, because it was significant, it, the was significant, wasn't it, the first in five years between the french president and the british prime minister? and it looked very cosy , didn't it? lots of very cosy, didn't it? lots of back rubbing and a holding of one another. it looked incredibly cosy. i mean, it was. it made the g7 look like a very, very kind of friendly affair compared by comparison. so. so can we read into that? because obviously it's been very difficult over the past five years. the relationships have been very strained , that things been very strained, that things are getting closer together. some people won't like it, but in terms of negotiation over difficult issues, it's got to be a positive thing, hasn't it? yeah. and i think that the deal that rishi sunak was able to
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agree eu about the agree with the eu about the northern ireland, that was a sign of a real thawing of relations . and so far i think relations. and so far i think hasn't really translated into a massive uptake in the polls. but i think it's about rishi sunak's task now is to show that he can translate that, improve relations very tangible relations into very tangible gains that people actually feel on the ground . all the brits and on the ground. all the brits and the french on equal footing here. madeleine because there was a stark difference in rhetoric yesterday of rishi singh that was speaking very warmly about president macron. he was calling in bonhomie, my friend, he he was very friend, and he said he was very fortunate to be serving alongside macron. macron was alongside macron. but macron was saying he hoped have the best saying he hoped to have the best possible relations . but uk possible relations. but the uk needs fix the consequences of needs to fix the consequences of brexit. that's quite a stark difference in rhetoric, isn't it? yes, definitely. i mean, it? oh, yes, definitely. i mean, i that sunak was he i think that rishi sunak was he often does have that very affable , kind of polite affable, kind of polite demeanour when he's speaking publicly general . but demeanour when he's speaking publicly general. but i think publicly in general. but i think perhaps he was speaking with the relationship he'd like relationship that he'd like to have the one that have rather than the one that they have . so for the
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they currently have. so for the best part of half a billion pounds over three years, is that going to be money well spent? we don't exactly what the don't know exactly what the french contributing this french are contributing to this . the the rhetoric being . the longer the rhetoric being floated out, there is five times as much . now, whether that's as much. now, whether that's true or not, who knows? but from our perspective , is it going to our perspective, is it going to make enough of a difference to be worth the dosh? well, the difficulty is that there's no is as the prime minister often says, there's no kind of single silver bullet that will solve this crisis. you have to look very carefully at the port and push factors and also to look at not just maybe coming together with france to enforce to have better enforcement on the ground there , but also to have there, but also to have individual agreements with countries to return migrants. it's probably one of a number of different of different things. and but i think failure to do something about it will be totally cataclysmic for the conservatives because it just it seems to be one of those issues
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that no one has been able to get a grip on. and we're constantly told, you know, the rhetoric of take control from the take back control from the referendum totally kind of referendum is totally kind of totally belied by the fact that we have borders that look increasingly permeable. all right. so with that in mind, and we know the as far as the public is concerned, of course, since the latest polling , you the bill the latest polling, you the bill that was unveiled this week is popular , but the voters tend to popular, but the voters tend to like the idea of what rishi sunak wants to achieve by default . and people assume that default. and people assume that if they arrive illegally and stay out without a returns policy in place, either with individual countries, all with the eu, which is what macron said. can any of that actually work? well, this is what i've i've been wondering since it was first announced. i don't think it's going to be in front of the commons early next week. so we'll know the full details then. but struck me that i then. but it struck me that i didn't how bill had didn't see how this bill had teeth previous bills teeth where previous bills didn't like the nationality and borders bill or like the
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problems with the rwanda policy. it's yet to be explained. i think, fully how they would they would hope to have a different outcome than seeing it bound up endlessly legal challenges, which been the case for which has been the case for previous . equally, previous. but equally, the language bullish language has been so bullish that wonder if they have that i do wonder if they have some special solution , some kind of special solution, some kind of special solution, some does make it some tweak. that does make it different otherwise different because otherwise they've expected they've really raised expected options. and if it doesn't work out it's big risk for out again, it's a big risk for something this kind of flagship policy like this to be seen to be failing right before the next general election. think general election. do you think rishi should pushed rishi sunak should have pushed for policy yesterday in for returns policy yesterday in paris because it so many people will see that we're pushing out this this legislation. we're giving money to france five giving more money to france five and germany we're talking about now, but 230 million. so far since 2014. but sums of money. yeah. and so far, we still have this crisis in the channel. well exactly. i mean, i. i imagine. i can't think that he wouldn't have raised that issue behind closed doors. i mean, clearly , closed doors. i mean, clearly, there's a long way to go yet
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before something like that is going to be agreed publicly. but i completely agree with you. if it out to be something it turns out to be something that's has no that's toothless and has no effect, going to really effect, it's going to really backfire the government backfire on the government because they have made such a song and dance about it, if song and dance about it, that if they it one of the prime they and it was one of the prime ministers five pledges or five missions or whichever it was at the start of the year. yeah. yeah. he's going to have to yeah. so he's going to have to deliver something egg deliver something always got egg on he's not what on his face. yes. he's not what you run up to you. you need in the run up to you. not madeleine. really good to see you. thanks very much indeed. thoughts and that indeed. your thoughts and that of very, welcome, of course, very, very welcome, gb views .uk . john says gb views gb views .uk. john says when people realise our when will people realise our country up ? we haven't country is full up? we haven't got means infrastructure got the means or infrastructure to amounts of to support huge amounts of newcomers . we're lowering the newcomers. we're lowering the standard for people standard of living for people already living here and i do think some people would say, oh, that's absolute nonsense. i just think there's got to be an element to being an island nafion element to being an island nation and england's green and pleasant land and all the rest of i you can't just of it. i mean, you can't just keep build over the whole living lot how do we pay for lot and then how do we pay for all that infrastructure and all
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the just think is the rest? i just think there is there's got to be a point where you say, we need to, we need to. you know, work the numbers you know, work out the numbers of is coming here. it's not of who is coming here. it's not that's be anti migration. that's not to be anti migration. it's saying, don't it's just saying, well, don't you to say like australia you get to say like australia does. yes. and it's all cost money doesn't it. i mean, it's 6 million, £7 million a day being spent on hotels at the moment. i mean, many would say it's just not effective. and nicola not cost effective. and nicola from in touch from norwich has been in touch saying is laughing all saying macron is laughing all the way to the bank. why on earth to stop the earth would he want to stop the small boats leaving his country as a and for him to link as a point? and for him to link this issue to being a consequence of brexit is a total joke. he fails to mention he's having the same problem with italy. says the only italy. and calvin says the only way to stop this nonsense is to use to turn boats use the navy to turn boats around . australia did this and around. australia did this and the stopped overnight. the boat stopped overnight. well, if that's well, i don't know if that's true australia not. i'm true with australia or not. i'm not i'm not saying not saying. i'm not saying you're i'm saying i don't you're wrong. i'm saying i don't know effective the know how effective the australian was , so australian policy was, so i can't comment on that. however is there an argument to say we
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get border force or the navy or whatever, they're not going to catch everyone , but they might catch everyone, but they might catch everyone, but they might catch a of people who have catch a lot of people who have to sort on the point where to be sort of on the point where people aren't in british waters. otherwise take them otherwise you have to take them back. complicated because back. very complicated because of maritime law. if can of maritime law. but if you can stop them into british stop them getting into british waters, again, without waters, but again, without a return policy, can push them return policy, can you push them back? not sure you can. back? i'm not sure you can. well, they're in french well, if they're still in french waters, probably could . but waters, you probably could. but i think the french agree i don't think the french agree to them back. i'm not to take. take them back. i'm not sure. certainly place sure. well certainly in place and one more from. and who says i wish sunak would stop hugging macron ? it feels the macron? it feels creepy. the french must be laughing at his desperation , throwing the money desperation, throwing the money while nhs falls apart. the body language is very interesting . so language is very interesting. so if we saw yesterday that actually macron did this and then sunak did it back to him at that. so that's all about power optics, isn't it? yeah. you talk to the body language experts and it's whoever's got their hand on the because there seem to the last because there seem to be them towards the door be pushing them towards the door , pushing them towards the door. and that's all its power optics
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thing. americans use it thing. the americans use it a slide and does this. if you watch the photos, if you look now , you won't you won't miss now, you won't you won't miss this. biden always puts his this. now, biden always puts his hand top. in the photo hand on top. so in the photo ops, looks like got the ops, he looks like he's got the power. you go. no one. she power. yeah you go. no one. she did i know he's in did it today. i know he's in control. i'm always doing this to you. yeah okay. i've got the. i've got no say in anything that goes on, not just twiddle the but makes the words go round very well to talking six nations with eight. and in just a couple of minutes .
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welcome back. good morning. you're watching and listening to breakfast with stephen and ellie. it is a glorious 821 as we've been talking about this morning. gary lineker is not going to be doing match of the day tonight following his row with bbc over his tweets. with the bbc over his tweets. and he's off for the foreseeable ball. so as we know. yeah, well , it's difficult see how he , it's difficult to see how he is to make a comeback. it is going to make a comeback. it could happen, but we're not sure which way. yes, he's been asked to back the show to step back from the show tonight tweets . a big tonight over those tweets. a big fallout that well. lots fallout from that as well. lots of presenters, commentators saying to saying they're not going to appear show either. know appear on the show either. know it's a big all on the it's a big story all on the picket line. they're all the picket line. they're all on the picket line. they're all on the picket yeah. doesn't picket line. yeah. it doesn't look going to look like anyone's going to cross either. so far, at cross that either. so far, at least we're joined by sports journalist ben jacobs with us now, he's on the line.
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now, i believe he's on the line. there good morning to there he is. good morning to you, do you make of you, ben. so what do you make of all this then have the bbc all of this then have the bbc mishandled it or had they done the right thing ? good morning. the right thing? good morning. well, i think the bbc's thought they were diffusing the situation by trying to get gary lineker to stand down after he refused to apologise on air and all it's done is added to the storm. and although the bbc will point to that impartiality rules , it feels very inconsistent and harsh on a freelance sports presenter. of course, if gary lineker was a news presenter , it lineker was a news presenter, it would be very different . but would be very different. but ultimately he tweeted from a personal account without any reference to the bbc or match of the day . and even though he is the day. and even though he is one of their highest paid presenters and affiliated and known as part of the bbc team, he took a personal opinion on a personal account and one wonders if he had taken the opposite opinion and agreed with the asylum policy , whether or not asylum policy, whether or not there would be any kind of fuss.
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but that would still be a breach of the so—called rules. so at the heart of this , two things. the heart of this, two things. one is perhaps inconsistency , one is perhaps inconsistency, because let's not forget, we have people like the bbc chairman , richard sharp, who chairman, richard sharp, who facilitated alone for the former prime minister boris johnson. there are others we can point to, like jeremy o there are others we can point to, like jeremy 0 hold on bed knight the hold on a minute you talk about inconsistency the inconsistency is what's happening now, isn't it? tim davie the director general, said in 2020 he wanted to crack down on staff posting the view that no link is freelance, but that's by the by. he wants this crack down on bbc people posting the views on social media in a move to restore the views is the beat of the bbc as impartial bbc ? of the bbc as impartial bbc? anybody else working within the bbc ? they can't spout away on bbc? they can't spout away on social media and get away with it. so the inconsistent tendency is that gary lineker has been given a free pass until now .
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given a free pass until now. well, i think that he hasn't been given a free pass. what you find is the more prominent accounts that you have, the more visible they are. and you're absolutely right in what you say that if there is a blanket and relatively militant policy, that nobody can do anything, then the bbc should be policing that day in and day out with everybody. but not forget, davie but let's not forget, davie himself spent many years standing as a local councillor being part of the conservative party. richard sharpe, as i say, facilitated that loan for boris johnson. jeremy clarkson had very controversial views on social media when he was at the bbc, and this is not a now problem, as you rightly say. tim davis made impartiality , his davis made impartiality, his platform for a good couple of years now. but i think the challenge with lineker in particular is just that he's freelance and i do think that's significant and he is a sports presenter and it very much feels like if the view was the opposite and he'd simply agreed
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with a tweet, even though that would be exactly the same, a view on politics. he would still be on match of the day . and the be on match of the day. and the final thing i would say , forgive final thing i would say, forgive me for interrupting . i'm jumping me for interrupting. i'm jumping in, but it's not just about what he said. he said things like this before . it's not about what this before. it's not about what he said. it's about the way in which he said it, isn't it? he referred to this being similar to 1930s german. now that is the problem with this tweet, isn't it ? i think the words on germany it? i think the words on germany were definitely poorly judged for sure , but the bbc would need for sure, but the bbc would need to come out and specifically say that he's not being taken off the match of the day because he's been impartial. the match of the day because he's been impartial . he's been he's been impartial. he's been taken off match of the day because he made an analogy with germany in the 1930s. and if they extend their logic to that, then absolutely it shifts away from just he took a political view and it becomes inappropriate language. and we may see gary lineker return to
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match of the day and apologise for the language, but not necessarily the view . but i necessarily the view. but i think when i say impartiality , i think when i say impartiality, i want to make it clear why i believe that . and the reason is believe that. and the reason is because if we stick with only gary lineker , he was allowed gary lineker, he was allowed with bbc approval to start the 2022 world cup , stating that 2022 world cup, stating that human rights and qatar needed to come under scrutiny. then flash forward to this statement and it very clearly says that lineker should not be engaging in either political views or political controversy . and qatar is controversy. and qatar is ultimately a political controversy. so why was he allowed to go on air and endorse capacity and attack qatar ? capacity and attack qatar? whether you believe him or not? but he's not allowed to take a view around british politics. thatis view around british politics. that is the hypocrisy and the inconsistency. okay ben, thanks very much indeed. good to talk to you this morning. we've had a statement from former dg greg. yes. he's been speaking to the bbc this morning. he says, i
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think what the bbc did yesterday was mistaken over the years i've never gone public criticise the leadership of the bbc because i know what a difficult job it is . but he does think the precedent in the bbc is that news and current affairs employees are expected to be impartial and not the rest, he says. gary lineker is a much loved football reporter and presenter. but if you start applying those rules to everybody who works with bbc, where it end? and he where does it end? and he mentions david attenborough and salt and sugar. so to people we know that their political views , they're often outspoken about political issues with david attenborough, it's about the environment. where is the line? it is the point, isn't it? yeah, yeah. fascinating, though, in in all of this. it's staying as it gets go, hasn't it got huge britain he's got he's it's worth pointing out the match of the day is going to be worth watching tonight because there's no no no specific no presenters, no no specific commentators , no but commentators, no nothing. but what you will have is alternative match of the day here on gb news with i've got
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news headlines montage london thatis news headlines montage london that is your man. well done it's which is more than the bbc have got today old 10:00 tonight you're on gb news see don't want to miss that agents is going to be tuning into that anyway. yeah without going without doubt. yeah. he's going to on it. probably no, i've to be on it. probably no, i've had a yeah. i must admit had a call. yeah. i must admit i'm still. he will, i'm sure he's on the fence. on if he got me very today, aren't you? me very busy today, aren't you? i yeah. going to i thought so, yeah. i'm going to keep on this one well. so keep you on this one as well. so i'm in the middle watching i'm right in the middle watching the game as well. so 818, sleeping, breathing it sort of. yeah, are. what's happening yeah, you are. what's happening with sport this with with all the sport this morning. the is know morning. well the is you know ends ends when sport ends always ends well when sport mixes isn't it. mixes with politics isn't it. it's obviously a time it's obviously for a long time but big weekend of rugby but nice big weekend of rugby this we've to a this weekend. we've got to a 2:15 off italy against wales 2:15 off in italy against wales wales lost all three wales have lost all three matches so far in the six nafions so matches so far in the six nations so they'll be nations and so they'll be looking avoid wooden looking to avoid the wooden spoon they've spoon effects. they've had a really difficult months as really difficult few months as well. union, well. the welsh rugby union, they've dispute they've had that dispute over contracts we discussed on contracts that we discussed on here of weeks ago. then here a couple of weeks ago. then there accusations
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there was all the accusations about what was the culture of the well then the union as well and then suggested comments the rest suggested comments all the rest of it. and so the team haven't. well, you can tell if can well, you can tell if they can tell the players been in a tell the players have been in a contract with with contract dispute with the with the because the the organisation because the results have been results on the pitch have been terrible. loss to england terrible. the loss to england last out. but the player last time out. but the player said he said i've only got one point traditionally they're the team the team that finish there, the whipping and they've got whipping boys and they've got a chance win and then chance to win today. and then england france this england play france this afternoon. the first really big test of england's six nations. afternoon. the first really big tethey england's six nations. afternoon. the first really big tethey engla to s six nations. afternoon. the first really big tethey engla to s sdo nations. afternoon. the first really big tethey engla to s sdo youyns. if they come to it, do you think? i mean, we think? well, look, i mean, we don't know. the simple don't know. that's the simple answer. we look at it answer. but if we look at it from the very beginning, they like make a statement, like to make a statement, a mission squad. always mission from the squad. i always remember steve mcclaren remember when steve mcclaren took first took over england job first thing to make thing you did to make a statement and stamp his authority on the role was to drop beckham. big thing drop david beckham. big thing this to he was this time many to long he was the who was sacrificed by the man who was sacrificed by steve he's going steve borthwick and he's going he's going to got rid of his captain this week as well. owen farrell not happy the farrell is not happy with the with levels been with the levels he's been reaching the first few games. reaching in the first few games. i that me that this i think that tells me that this tournament experimental tournament is experimental offering don't
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offering them because i don't think owen think any doubt that that owen farrell return. the farrell will return. he's the captain, after but it does captain, after all. but it does mean a place for marcus smith. he wasn't really trusted under the coach. eddie jones, the previous coach. eddie jones, and it also brings focus and it also brings into focus england twickenham england being back at twickenham as this. as well. we've touched on this. yes, we saw clive yes, i didn't. we saw clive woodward sales figures, pop. yeah, exactly. because unlike in football, can drink football, you can, you can drink alcohol view of the alcohol within view of the pitch. thinks too pitch. and he thinks that too many leaving their many fans are just leaving their seat the during the play seat during the during the play and going to get a drink and we get refreshments. and so that detracts from the support that the offering the team the fans are offering the team on the day. and when you're at home, it's not exciting and home, it's not more exciting and it wouldn't with the well, it wouldn't leave with the well, maybe just expecting them maybe they just expecting them to how they've to win and that's how they've got be very successful got to be very successful over the years. so that's the last 25 years. so that's maybe how they are. but france one defeat 16, they can still one defeat in 16, they can still win nations. of win the six nations. and of course we've scotland more. course we've got scotland more. yeah. england looking yeah. and how england looking ahead would say ahead and starting i would say look they had a bad start look i mean they had a bad start obviously losing against scotland. lose to scotland. so when they lose to scotland, also the scotland, they also lose the calcutta it's have calcutta cup. it's got to have the side over them in the indian side over them in recent in recent fixtures, recent in recent fixtures, recent meetings between the two
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countries. pick things recent meetings between the two countriesthen pick things recent meetings between the two countriesthen i pick things recent meetings between the two countriesthen i wouldn't:hings recent meetings between the two countriesthen i wouldn't sayjs up since then i wouldn't say that i mean to say disarray that the i mean to say disarray in wales and that would be in wales and sense that would be the weakest in six the two weakest teams in the six nations. today will give us a nations. so today will give us a real pointer as to how far they've come. i honestly think this i think this is experimental. i think he's both he's i think both because looking cup further looking at the world cup further down line. having said that, down the line. having said that, even allowing for that ireland number the world, france, even allowing for that ireland nu i ber the world, france, even allowing for that ireland nu i say, the world, france, even allowing for that ireland nu i say, won the world, france, even allowing for that ireland nu i say, won itthe world, france, even allowing for that ireland nu i say, won it one vorld, france, even allowing for that ireland nu i say, won it one defeatrrance, even allowing for that ireland nu i say, won it one defeat in ice, as i say, won it one defeat in 16, probably favours to the world cup. we'll get a better idea of something. stuff, idea of something. lovely stuff, aiden. very aiden. thank you very much indeed. you indeed. catch up with you a little bit later on. did you see yesterday rishi and yesterday rishi sunak and emmanuel macron that she traded apparently ahead of this apparently shirts ahead of this game english game this afternoon and english said, once apparently said, oh, yes, i once apparently simon was trading simon cicerone was trading football shirts. it's sort of just it's hard to know there's something about because france was over brexit. was so difficult over brexit. the bromance seems in a way a little bit distasteful. but if you're going to anything you're going to get anything done, you've you've to get done, you've you've got to get on people. otherwise you're on with people. otherwise you're just going to get just never going to get anywhere. it's genuine. do anywhere. it's genuine. who do you it's for? i it's you think it's for? i say it's probably 50, 50, 50. probably about 50, 50, 50, 50. diplomacy is always a bit of
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5050 like that, isn't it? yeah arts. oh, thank you very much indeed, miss costello. i appreciate that. now we're going to talk going through the papers in a couple and then in a couple of days and then we're to be talking dogs. we're going to be talking dogs. have got a because the have you got a pug? because the punks, flat faced punks, another flat faced phrase, very popular. are phrase, very popular. but are they healthy ? there is a real they healthy? there is a real concern. i'm going to talk about more about in a few minutes more about that in a few minutes
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oh, we should really broadcast what we do in the commercial breaks because the chitchat is amazing. it is , yes. i think we amazing. it is, yes. i think we should put it out on the radio in the break. so you see it into the radio. we'll put it out anyway. like you call it like kind of like a behind the scenes podcast. we good like which just i'll call real old gossip and good laugh it's 836 good laugh anyway it's 836 morning you. let's look at morning to you. let's look at the papers without express . the papers without the express. rishi sunak £478 million deal with france to end the small boat crisis. similarly the independent questions what britain is getting by handing france £500 million to solve the small boats crisis at the times has support from fellow presenters who won't work on match of the day tonight following gary lineker's suspense show and the daily mail. also voting on gary lineker suspension , claiming one lineker suspension, claiming one source to describe the presenter's mutiny as a proper bbc crisis. okay let's go
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through the papers with political editor for huffpost uk kevin schofield and assistant editor for the spectator , cindy editor for the spectator, cindy u. good morning to both of you. kevin, let's kick off with the express. should we? and voter i.d. express. should we? and voter id. and the elderly . yes. id. and the elderly. yes. i mean, this is an issue i think this kind of flew under the radar a little. but and i think it could potentially be a big and political controversy. so from local actions in may. from the local actions in may. and the rules are changing so that you can't vote unless you produce a picture id and at the moment, you don't have to know the express . i'll moment, you don't have to know the express. i'll make moment, you don't have to know the express . i'll make the point the express. i'll make the point here that i'm a millions and 2 million voters that i can and total don't have the required for id. right now, of which about half of them are elderly voters. and who could effectively be disenfranchised , effectively be disenfranchised, who are not. and don't have. but you can get free, appropriate i.d. you can get free, appropriate id. from the government. you
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can . but i think the take up has can. but i think the take up has been really poor . can. but i think the take up has been really poor. i think it's just a 50,000 maybe from memory. and it's a tiny percentage of the total who actually need it. and on potentially, you know, as i see, this could be quite a big thing. no labour see that disenfranchise in a lot of people who would be more likely to vote for labour . however, to vote for labour. however, a lot of elderly voters i can safely report could just as easily damage the tories as well . i think, you know, i think you could potentially see quite a few people turning up completely unaware of it and being turned away. yeah the voting booth, which isn't for great being told. now you're being told. yeah.i told. now you're being told. yeah. i think it's important that people talk about it. all that. yeah. just. just seems to be out there. if you can get on line or get someone, if you fall within that category, if you can get online or get someone, get online line or get someone, you child or grandchild or you know, child or grandchild or whatever fully, whatever to get online fully, you out forms and you can fill out forms and amend, government i.d. which amend, get government i.d. which will the polling because will work at the polling because you've got a view. i really
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everyone should vote. yes, i'm all for that, actually. cindy, let's take a look at the guardian, shall we? and this is all about post grenfell building, isn't it? yes, michael gove has beavering away at gove has been beavering away at this and know, he's seen as this and you know, he's seen as someone who just solves problems in government and he's been given this kind of cladding issue which is really intractable to solve . and the intractable to solve. and the way he's solving it is just to make houseboat a sign this contract monday. they just make houseboat a sign this contryat monday. they just make houseboat a sign this contrya longerynday. they just make houseboat a sign this contrya longer notice they just make houseboat a sign this contrya longer notice and just make houseboat a sign this contrya longer notice and if|st make houseboat a sign this contrya longer notice and if they have a longer notice and if they don't sign his contract, which accepts liability for life accepts liability for any life critical responsibility, so that cladding , then they don't get to cladding, then they don't get to continue developing the buildings, which i think is absolutely the right thing to do. but but this story in the guardian is saying that actually because of paperwork, hold ups in service, that only in the civil service, that only a of developers who have a handful of developers who have signed this . so i think michael signed this. so i think michael gove will really have to, you know the low down on this one. yeah. because that seems reasonable . yeah, absolutely. i reasonable. yeah, absolutely. i mean i have colleagues who are stuck in this situation and the
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problem is that, you know, when you buy something like that, you're the company you're buying it for. don't take any responsibility. you as a leaseholder have to foot all of the bill, is particularly the bill, which is particularly hard in a rise, hard if you're in a high rise, which often these are. so we need something to solve it. and i think michael gove probably is doing right and doing the right thing and i think housebuilders really need to we don't have to be mindful that we don't have another grenfell. yeah, no, absolutely. let's talk absolutely. kevin let's talk money. should we in the mirror this morning, bp making loads of money. yeah. under the current crisis , the boss's boss has crisis, the boss's boss has a 50% pay rise to 3 million quid this year. and yet he's had . this year. and yet he's had. a £10 million pay and perks bonanza as the only matter and this grievous 300 times the average uk worker's pay and no obviously context has it bp's profits soared to more than double to £23.4 billion last yeah double to £23.4 billion last year. so bernard as the boss i guess will be on a performance
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related package. so that's why he's got it. but i just think it will stick in the throat of people who are having to pay through nose extra for the boat and also , you know, these and also, you know, these profits are largely based on factors outwith the company's control. it's basically the sale price has gone up . so logically price has gone up. so logically follows that their profits will also go up and his raking and i just think the argument is and it's a bit it's a bit difficult to argue against it in a way, but the argument is that there has been over not that long ago, actually these companies are making very little money or indeed losses . actually, no one indeed losses. actually, no one was saying, well, let's bail them out. so when they start to make huge profits, why do we then say, well, you need to bail us out? yeah, i think there's a real question over principle. what taxation for? and if you what is taxation for? and if you think government can think that the government can just one taxes, then just levy one off taxes, then taxation really does become much more know, ad hoc. you more like you know, ad hoc. you know, too much know, if you make too much profit, the government just profit, the government can just take from on an ad take it away from you on an ad
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hoc so that's one hoc basis. so that's one question on principles, but also , you know, recently actually harp agreed , which is one of the harp agreed, which is one of the leading companies doing and leading companies doing oil and sea extraction , they have sea extraction, they have said that they're to take that they're going to take investment abroad because all of their have been wiped their profits have been wiped out windfall tax that out by the windfall tax that rishi so it's rishi sunak introduce. so it's difficult balance to get right, i think, because you don't want to discourage that kind of investment yeah, it's investment in the uk. yeah, it's tough sanjit stay with you tough on sanjit stay with you showing story in the showing this is a story in the times low traffic signs times about low traffic signs are talking this a lot at are talking about this a lot at the but is about the moment but this is about inaccurate. yeah this is one of my big bugbears because my street has just been turned into a traffic zone like a ulez a low traffic zone like a ulez sort of thing. i was not consulted about but can consulted about it, but i can see it . i'm on consulted about it, but i can see it. i'm on a corner flat and i can see on the main road one side of my window, all of the cars up , especially in cars building up, especially in the and evenings all the mornings and evenings all the mornings and evenings all the way down. you know, you can feel kind of that . and feel the films kind of that. and on the other window, nothing, nothing all. and so all of nothing at all. and so all of these zones have been introduced. and this article
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saying that possibly based on flawed data, these truckers are automatically meant to be tracking how well the impact on traffic is have actually said that actually any traffic any vehicles going a stop start or under six miles an hour might not be recorded at all. they'd be underestimating the impact on traffic the main roads traffic on the main roads leading to people saying that this ends are a success, which i think anyone who lives near any of these areas can see that they're not. yeah, yeah. we had them in our area a couple of years ago. they were brought and no consultation as far as we could tell. and street basically either end was pretty much blocked and it really caused huge and discord amongst just people living in the street . people living in the street. people were in favour of it. people were in favour of it. people were in favour of it. people were against it was really quite nasty and eventually the council decided to rip all out it obviously cost a lot of money to install and it obviously cost more money to take out as well. so this is just a london thing. they felt it as far as i know. i think so,
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yeah. don't but it's one of those things. it's like you could see maybe starting in london and councils then following on, you know, something, have something, it could have happened like you happened elsewhere. but like you say, been popular, say, they haven't been popular, i think it's fair say. i think it's fair to say. i mean, there's a lot of stories out there the moment about out there at the moment about the the high street. i the death of the high street. i mean, isn't struggling mean, if it isn't struggling enough, introduce now to ed enough, you introduce now to ed and, you know, the shops that find in that zone, find themselves in that zone, there's simply no traffic there's quite simply no traffic going yet. absolutely going pop yet. absolutely lost. there was one little kind of a corner shop, a convenience store near and absolute overnight, near us and absolute overnight, basically the footfall, the passing traffic just stopped passed . shops all said passed there. shops all said they were unhappy about it and what did israel was it what it did israel was it diverted lot of traffic onto diverted a lot of traffic onto main roads which you know with flats and harvey and just basically chalked up those roads one went past a school not great for the students actually i said if they go in less than six miles an hour, they will be the census. so it's an empty road. there's london traffic yeah is let's have a look i love this one in the express to see yours.
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send somebody i don't know who wants to pay is going to live in the alps for ten years. yes unfortunately, yes . because you unfortunately, yes. because you have to be a swiss citizen . oh, have to be a swiss citizen. oh, dean have to be a swiss citizen. oh, dear. yeah. sorry about that, stephen, but yes, £50,000 and it's depends on a family of four. so if you're adult, you get ten to uk , every child you get ten to uk, every child you get ten to uk, every child you get ten. okay, but the problem with this and this was village has had the population basically people have left the village gone to cities , all that sort of gone to cities, all that sort of stuff. so you've only got hundreds of people living there and can see why they want to and i can see why they want to boost that with young families. but get that £50,000, but if but you get that £50,000, but if you years, you move away within ten years, you move away within ten years, you have to pay that money back right ? you have to pay that money back right? right. so it's a bit of a ten year contract, though. yeah you know, sentence to to you know, a sentence to do to take the money you go left out, you can't leave top. it can't be a it must be a lovely a census it must be a lovely i mean must be if you can get mean it must be if you can get a job. that's the thing. you'd have to work remotely, wouldn't you? unless wanted to. yeah you? unless you wanted to. yeah i the is, why do
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i mean, the question is, why do people away? clearly people move away? clearly there were yeah, still, were reasons that. yeah, still, it idyllic. so it it sounds idyllic. yeah. so it would nice you get kevin , you would be nice you get kevin, you retire there, you have . yeah, retire there, you have. yeah, it's just the police. so it sounds nice , but under 45. oh so sounds nice, but under 45. oh so they want young families. oh steve. and that's where i mean you don't. yeah, well, each of these is , is in my field. can these is, is in my field. can i just say i feel offended? i'm offended it and i may sue them in the european court of human rights. oh, the money. they're not i mean this are in europe, are they. they're not even of the just blowing that the right now just blowing that one out the wall and then i'm i am little bit everybody am offended little bit everybody else gets offended over things much shorter now. yeah cindy kevin really good to see you both this morning. thank you very much indeed . oh, she talk very much indeed. oh, she talk about dogs ? no, quite headlines, about dogs? no, quite headlines, actually , because . because we actually, because. because we need time to get the dogs in the studio. all right. well some go. yeah, because i'm just out of
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the headlines, so it must have. you got a dog? my got a dog. what's you got. a shiba inu which is a japanese. so they're stunning . rico so orangey dog stunning. rico so orangey dog with a curly tail. oh, i know the ones. yeah, yeah. they look nice. they look like a fox. really yeah. okay, nice. yeah, i love it. there you go. thanks very much indeed. okay. let's bnng very much indeed. okay. let's bring you up to date with some of the headlines this morning . of the headlines this morning. and junior belonging to and junior doctors belonging to the british medical association say choice but to say they have no choice but to strike on monday after health secretary attend talks on secretary didn't attend talks on friday. comes after steve friday. it comes after steve barclay said he wanted them to call off a planned three day walkout and negotiate. nearly 40,000 junior doctors voted to take industrial action over for a 35% pay rise . the snp a 35% pay rise. the snp leadership candidate , humza leadership candidate, humza yousaf says he was forced to call police over abuse experienced in the early days of his campaign. he's experienced in the early days of his campaign . he's currently the his campaign. he's currently the health secretary in scotland is vying to replace nicola and to
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become the first leader of scotland from an ethnic minority background. this revelation , background. this revelation, ahead of the party's seventh leadership hustings taking place in glasgow this afternoon . and in glasgow this afternoon. and silicon valley bank uk says it will be put into insolvency from sunday evening in announcement comes after silicon valley in the us was placed under government control yesterday , government control yesterday, the bank of england said it will stop the uk branch from making payments or accepting deposits . payments or accepting deposits. now the rspca has called for a ban on flat faced dogs from competing at crufts. yes the charity is highlighting concerns that flat faced dog breeds can suffer terrible issues that stop them from living normal lives . them from living normal lives. well, let's talk to vet and tick tock star ben simpson to say good to see you once again . nice good to see you once again. nice to have you back in morning . to have you back in morning. there's been controversy over flat faced dogs and i guess pugs in particular for a long time
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now. but still, their popularity seems to be soaring. yes yeah. and in pugs the last couple of years, i think the registration statistics of the pugs are starting to drop off a little bit. i am, but. but french bulldogs and bulldogs, you know, as popular as ever i am. but i think generally there's a little bit more awareness of the sort of health issues they have. but yeah, not really seeing much of a wane in their popularity. so what kind things are we what kind of things are we talking here? issues talking about here? what issues our faced dogs our flat faced dogs experiencing? so i mean, the main issues are in relation to their breathing. so these dogs obviously have a flatter and wider skull , obviously have a flatter and wider skull, but obviously have a flatter and wider skull , but still obviously have a flatter and wider skull, but still this similar amount of soft tissue in their head. so and that and essentially soft tissue is just crammed into this bony box and they often have an elongated, soft palate at the back of their throat, narrow nostrils. and that means that they often struggle to breathe when they're exercising. they often exercise intolerant. they can have issues
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and they often they can. this can cause them to regurgitate food issue with their eyes as well. i thought about pugs. i sort of popping and things. sort of popping out and things. yes. mean, it's the breathing yes. i mean, it's the breathing issues are the tip of the issues are just the tip of the iceberg, really, because yeah, it eyes that are very it is their eyes that are very vulnerable and trauma to vulnerable to and trauma to their the developing eye their eyes. the developing eye elses bruising and a lot of elses and bruising and a lot of evidence and year that i'm evidence and last year that i'm very to problems , very prone to skin problems, spinal problems and the majority of them have to have a caesarean to give birth they and can't give birth naturally. so is this a i mean, if mentioned bulldogs i don't know what the issue is french bulldogs english bulldogs they're are sort of natural or breed aren't they. is there an issue with with lot of these dogs being bred to be more flat faced ? i mean, essentially they faced? i mean, essentially they become more and more extreme over the years . and bulldogs over the years. and bulldogs were originally bred to beat balls and so, you know, they were more athletic to me and you know bulldogs of today , most of know bulldogs of today, most of them, you know, a lot of them
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would struggle with, you know, everyone in the park, i'd say. and they just become more extreme over years. i think part of the issue, especially with with these kind of breeds. parkinson for bulldogs, they're so popular , aren't a celebrity so popular, aren't a celebrity dog . we see them all over the dog. we see them all over the president xi. that's perhaps one of the reasons why people want them so much, why there is that demand. but do you think that people are so of these people are so aware of these health issues and what comes with it? vet bills, for example, could be much higher if you have these breeds. yeah absolutely. i think and i like i say, i think there's a little bit more and awareness. but you know, if you look up insurance quotes for these they're these dog breeds, they're astronomical. can astronomical. i mean, you can quadruple would for be a quadruple what it would for be a lot of other dog breeds because of that of their issues. of that of their health issues. so and it can be very so you know, and it can be very distressing have one distressing if you have one these and they become these dogs and they become seriously you i've seriously ill. you know, i've seen french seen quite a few french bulldogs, two or three years old, become paralysed with slip this really not uncommon this it's really not uncommon and with bills of and people end up with bills of thousands some thousands of pounds. and some people that. it's
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people just can't pay that. it's part the issue then it's part of the issue then and it's not to criticise as anyone who's got these dogs at the got one of these dogs at the moment, but is there a sense that we have bred dogs for our benefit, not their health? yeah, absolutely . i benefit, not their health? yeah, absolutely. i mean, benefit, not their health? yeah, absolutely . i mean, you know, absolutely. i mean, you know, don't get me wrong, i mean, i love these dogs. i totally get why people get get these dogs. they have that really calm temperament . and but i think temperament. and but i think there's a lot of cognitive dissonance you know, a lot of people have some awareness of these issues, but they you know, people sort of it's just so normalised that's usually what can people do it as if there's p”9 can people do it as if there's pug owners and bull dog owners who are watching and listening. now, is there any tips that you've got to keep that dog as healthy as possible so one of the important things is the most important things is keeping if they're keeping them slim. so if they're overweight, much more overweight, they're much more likely to have some of the breathing issues. and it's always you know, the always best to, you know, the earliest of the problems if earliest sign of the problems if they're if they're breathing very noisily their exercise very noisily when their exercise thing anything like that, go thing and anything like that, go to your vet, speak to them and
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see there's anything see whether there's anything that help and that can be done to help and some dogs do need some of these dogs do need surgery to help open up their airways quite invasive airways and quite invasive surgery. it's surgery. but, you know, it's a big help for some of these dogs, but it's awareness. i mean, is it because i you've got it because i think you've got a dog, an animal? think dog, have an animal? i think you've don't actually you've got. i don't actually have a dog. no, no, i don't. i've got got an 18 month i've got i've got an 18 month old. i oh no. that's i've had an on and off a child on the way or something. yeah but yeah. something. yeah well but yeah. because you are a dog because i know you are a dog lover you. yeah. so is lover aren't you. yeah. so is it. we need to retrain it. do we need to retrain ourself calls into what we choosing? i'm cat choosing? i mean, i'm a cat lover and. and you might . so lover and. and you might. so a golden rule is rescue cat is going to be rare so you know you could live with any old thing. yeah, because you it. yeah, it's fine. do we need to move away from saying or really from people saying or really want because. because want this dog because. because of how it looks and because of this whole style thing is. this the whole style thing is. yeah, i see. think i'm you yeah, i see. i think i'm you know, you know people know, everyone, you know people obviously dog with that obviously want a dog with that that's that that's going to suit their that has nice temperament and has a nice temperament and but i think we need to have health
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much higher up the priority list than people pecking than people are picking pecking dogs. these dogs. and unfortunately these flat face breeds are that are quite a comparatively low health level . a health dog should just level. a health dog should just i should just ask you very briefly, because almost don't have time the call this from peter petre too to ban these from cross. would that make a difference just very briefly , i difference just very briefly, i think it is going to it would help to reduce their help to just reduce their visibility. know, the more visibility. you know, the more images these dogs, the images we see of these dogs, the more normalised is, you more normalised and it is, you know, to entertain these dogs. yeah yeah. really good to see ban , as always. thank you very ban, as always. thank you very much indeed. problem. coming up, all top stories for you. all the top stories for you. everything about gary lineker , everything about gary lineker, of you ever . good of course, he's you ever. good morning. i'm alex deakin and this is your latest weather update from the met office. it will be turning mild this weekend, but it's cold out there this morning. weekend, but it's cold out there this morning . potentially pretty this morning. potentially pretty icy well, especially where icy as well, especially where we've had some snow . the culprit we've had some snow. the culprit for snow, area of low for that snow, this area of low pressure now cleared away . pressure has now cleared away. weather fronts are trying to push from the west, but for
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push in from the west, but for most places, it's a sunny start, but it is frosty out that now this weather front is providing dylan damp conditions in the southwest . mostly rain here, but southwest. mostly rain here, but some snow over the moors. and as that wet weather creeps into parts of wales and northern ireland's here to a little bit of snow is likely during the day again mostly over however again mostly over hills however , for much of northern and eastern england and most of scotland, it'll be a fine bright day with sunny spells, but it is cold temperatures for five, six, seven or eight, perhaps in one or two spots. it is turning milder, though, in the southwest, and that is a sign of things to come. but the cold air still in place over northern england and scotland. so as this wet weather comes in later today, the midlands, today, parts of the midlands, too, are going to some too, we are going to see some snowfall not lasting too long, but cause further but it could cause some further disruption spreading into scotland night . scotland through the night. slippery conditions the roads slippery conditions on the roads . so yes, met office do have . so yes, the met office do have warning in place. it won't be as cold tomorrow morning as it is this morning. most places staying above freezing, but
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gary lineker is sidelined for much of the day in a row over impossible to say good morning. it's 9:00 on saturday, the 11th of march. this is breakfast on gb news the steven and ellie so you top stories this morning and the bbc is suspended. gary lineker for match of the day after criticising the government's asylum policies with references to 19th thirties germany . the with references to 19th thirties germany. the programme will air without a presenter or pundit or commentators as . they all say
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commentators as. they all say they stand in solidarity with lineker , the uk is to fund a new lineker, the uk is to fund a new detention centre in france to tackle small boat channel crossings. the prime minister and the french president have agreed to a £480 million payout over the next three years to help the ongoing crisis. at 920, were talking to the actress sue holderness . you'll know better holderness. you'll know better as marlene , of course, but only as marlene, of course, but only fools and horses . she she's fools and horses. she she's trying to work to tackle fraud amongst the over 65. she's been amongst the over 65. she's been a victim and she doesn't want you to be. and as ever, you can join in any of our discussions this morning. emailing gb views at gb news or you can tweet us at gb news or you can tweet us at . gb news. at gb news or you can tweet us at. gb news. now to our top story and gary lineker is to step back from presenting match of the day tonight following his row with the bbc over , his row with the bbc over, his politicised tweets. now the
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broadcaster says he won't present the programme until they've reached an agreed and clear position over his use of social media. the announcement was followed by fellow pundits ian wright and alan shearer saying they also would not appear on tonight's programme in solidarity with lineker. well, let's talk to jack carson, who's outside broadcasting house for us this morning. it's not going to be much of a show, is it, jack ? well what we're trying to jack? well what we're trying to work out the minute, stephen, because it's the changes in the last 24 hours have been so dramatic and happened so quickly . it was yesterday afternoon when, as usual, that they were the show with with the idea that gary lineker would still host . gary lineker would still host. but it's thought that within the bbc hierarchy , boss is above bbc bbc hierarchy, boss is above bbc sport wanted to have gary lineker make a full public apology , an announcement which apology, an announcement which he then decided he wouldn't do it. and after speaking with those bosses, said he would take a step back. the bbc announcing
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that he would take a step back from presenting duties on match of the day until they could reach agreement between them reach an agreement between them and when he started and then. that's when he started to fellow presenters, to inform fellow presenters, punst to inform fellow presenters, pundits who then started to come out in soledar pretty with him. presenters such mark chapman presenters such as mark chapman , presents match of , who usually presents match of the a so we're the day to on a sunday. so we're unsure what the programme tomorrow to look like tomorrow is going to look like for the sunday football highlights, but pundits such as alex ian micah alex scott, ian wright, micah richards, shearer , of richards, alan shearer, of course saying that they richards, alan shearer, of course not saying that they richards, alan shearer, of course not takerg that they richards, alan shearer, of course not take part at they richards, alan shearer, of course not take part inthey richards, alan shearer, of course not take part in any of would not take part in any of the programme. so the bbc announced it would have announced that it would have a announced that it would have a an essentially of match an episode essentially of match of just highlights of the day with just highlights with presenter or punditry in with no presenter or punditry in between a very unprecedented move . but then the issue came move. but then the issue came with and steve wilson, who's the lead commentator for bbc sports, announced in a statement on behalf of all the others, saying that as commentator is on match of the day, we've decided to take a step down from tomorrow night's broadcast. we are. we are fans are comforted that football fans who want to watch their teams should still be able to do so as management world feed
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management can use world feed commentary if they wish. and so what that programme tonight is going to look like is still very much up in the air. but the problem does go further than that. tory mps part of the that. as 36 tory mps part of the common sense group led by sir john hay, say that they they are demanding a full apology from gary lineker as well . but for gary lineker as well. but for media duties, which players complete after the game it's thought that many players are going to the professional footballers association saying that bbc that they want boycott bbc interviews after the game today that calls and thank you for bringing us to speed there outside bbc broadcasting house in london . and i'm pleased to in london. and i'm pleased to say we're joined now by former head of religion and ethics at the ahmed akil . great the bbc, akil ahmed akil. great to have you with us. good morning to you. i'm fascinated to hear your perspective on this as a former boss at the bbc , do as a former boss at the bbc, do you think the bbc have handled this correctly? gary this correctly? asking gary lineker to step aside for tonight's show ? well i'm talking tonight's show? well i'm talking today on a purely personal cost, not representing anybody. i work
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for right now. but i would say i think they've been made a difficult decision. they made a difficult decision. they made a difficult decision. they made a difficult decision whether it's the right thing or not. only they can tell what it know what you've seen there with that report is obviously report from jake is obviously a lot people disagree what lot of people disagree with what they've simply because they've suggested simply because many to the many people would point to the hypocrisy of particular hypocrisy of that particular decision. also point to the decision. and also point to the fact that gary is a sportsman and to his views, a pretty well known anyway, he regards to this and many of a particular kind of subjects he's not a news and current presenter. current affairs presenter. and you know , is he entitled to have you know, is he entitled to have an opinion as a freelance employee , not a full time employee, not a full time employee, not a full time employee ? you know, can the bbc employee? you know, can the bbc really or any employer really police somebody who has a job which is actually only a part time job? he's a freelancer. and so this opens up a whole load of issues.i so this opens up a whole load of issues. i can understand the bbc wanting to get to the bottom of it. my question would only be actually, you know, did they really , um, do they really really, um, do they really understand the make of all of, of how people operate these days? you know, gary is
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effective a a portfolio effective a has a portfolio career. he has a number of employee years and so can the bbc really impose its particular perspective on social media, on somebody who is a freelancer as , opposed to somebody who's a full time worker ? so i actually full time worker? so i actually think there's a lot of questions that need to be answered here. and i think it does is show and i think what it does is show you that the nature of how we work has changed radically. yeah, a key freelancer, a bit yeah, a key is freelancer, a bit of red herring, though, in the of a red herring, though, in the sense that, know how it sense that, you know how it works in this business you works in in in this business you can be classed as a freelancer because a lot of presenters are employed separate contracts . employed on separate contracts. so being a freelance contract , so being a freelance contract, that's all to do with tax and how you manage it and whether it's employed as himself or whether he's employed as a as a broadcast company. you know, it's all complex , but it's in it's all complex, but it's in effect, he's one of the bbc's highest paid stars. if not, if not the highest paid , therefore, not the highest paid, therefore, therefore it's whether he's on a
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freelance contract or a staff contract is sort of neither here nor there . but i would agree nor there. but i would agree with generally. but i think on this one, it does it that's not the case because he does work for other employers. he actually you know, if your if you know of if you follow football globally , that matter, you'll know , for that matter, you'll know gary from other gary lineker from other broadcasters works for. broadcasters that he works for. you know, for many years he presented champions league presented the champions league coverage sport. he coverage for beating sport. he does for other does work for other broadcasters. so i agree. i understand exactly what you're all about. i actually was involved, know, interviewed involved, you know, interviewed by when this first broke as by hmrc when this first broke as a a few years ago. so a story a few years ago. so i understand that having been an employer of people, but i think in he really is in this one he really is a freelance and a of these are freelance and a lot of these are freelancers work many freelancers who work for many different and different organisations. and actually that actually what this does is that interesting. he broke if he interesting. has he broke if he was a full time member of the bbc? i think there would be a completely different conversation . this is not me conversation. this is not me dismissing it and saying it just don't this is me don't want to think. this is me saying it's complicated because of nature of his contract of the nature of his contract and the fact that he's not
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actually a news and current affairs know affairs presenter when you know if at news and current if he works at news and current affairs have here the affairs all of us have here the standards are very, very different than they are for somebody else. and i think we've lost sight that because we lost sight of that because we do have of associated have news of people associated with current affairs with news and current affairs who have strong views. so who do have strong views. so gill, do you think outcomes of strong views as well ? so why strong views as well? so why a sports presenter is not allowed to have them? i think he's quite interesting . okay, really interesting. okay, that's really interesting. okay, that's really interesting that you say that because do you think it distinction need to be made distinction does need to be made between sort presenting between what sort of presenting you do at the bbc? i want to get your reaction to the former director—general of the bbc greg. been speaking this greg. he's been speaking this morning. that he morning. he says that what he thinks bbc did with gary thinks the bbc did with gary lineker in asking him to step aside off match tonight aside or off match the tonight they a mistake . and he they said was a mistake. and he goes to say that lineker is a goes on to say that lineker is a much loved football reporter and presenter. you start presenter. but if you start applying those rules to everybody watched bbc , everybody who watched the bbc, where does it end? did he mentions alan sugar and mentions sir alan sugar and david attenborough as well, who both comments but
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both political comments but that's about a political party or about the environment. so do you think that's where the distinction needs be made, is distinction needs to be made, is that bbc to move that where the bbc needs to move with terms of social with this in terms of social media policy? perhaps it needs to distinction whether you to be a distinction whether you are presenter or something are news presenter or something else ? absolutely. i absolutely else? absolutely. i absolutely agree with that comment. i mean, you do have to have a distinction. i think there's obviously depends on obviously there's it depends on what as well. doesn't what you say as well. doesn't it, really? because the amount of that still bring the of that you can still bring the bbc into disrepute bbc into into disrepute depending your depending on what you say your views be so abhorrent that views can be so abhorrent that actually matter actually does it matter if you're but i think on you're a sports. but i think on this thing i having a political opinion if there is no i think it's i think agree completely well you know greg says i also understand the argument you know a lot of people throwing around about you know, so lord sugar. i mean, lord sugar said some pretty full on things, which you would argue would get you into a lot of trouble and actually doesn't seem to have the same kind of traction this out. so i do i do think that this has been
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politicised. i do think that the bbc management, if they could have the time again, may think differently. but do this differently. but i do think this does go to what greg says, does go back to what greg says, what being saying? well, many of the people have been saying, which of work which is the world of work changed and it's difficult for an organisation on the which has had a standard way of operating for some time and it is to be flexible. i think it has to flexible. but i think it has to change radically . we also have change radically. we also have to change what we think about the bbc as well because we think if you're if you're the highest paid presenter, does that make you ultimately the face of the bbc? some would argue yes. but actually, if it's not your form of employment , then is it fair of employment, then is it fair to actually hold you to the same kind standards as somebody who is on a full time contract to the bbc? and that's the thing that we need to nail down on and actually, if that's what the bbc going sort out, actually, if that's what the bbc going sort out , then how long going to sort out, then how long will go with that? it could off our fault because that might take quite while and will gary and leave a number on the
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and i'll leave a number on the commentary says they be commentary says will they be back week i don't back next week. yeah i don't think to apologise is think he's going to apologise is he. what's to happen? this he. so what's to happen? this will have to be very, very quickly. so they may have got themselves a very difficult situation. but it's bit it's interesting because know, interesting because you know, how this you know how this works. in terms you works. akhil in terms of, you know, wider organisation know, the wider organisation and, the rank and file, if you like, and nothing creates problems within a newsroom and within an organisation if you've got someone who is paid an awful lot of money and as a result is a freelance contract and all the rest of it who seems to be operating within entirely different set of rules of those rank file people. i mean that's and we, you know, we're getting reports of some people at the bbc staff members being very unhappy with gary lineker is treated that seems to be working too on a different set of rules and principles . that has also and principles. that has also got to be considered by the bbc, hasn't it ? it
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got to be considered by the bbc, hasn't it? it has. but then again a lot of the rank and file and i can put myself in that when i was there, were very unhappy with other individuals as well being allowed to get away with lots of things. that's always going be the case. always going to be the case. think you'd understand think you'd have to understand it your definition of it depends on your definition of rank as well. you on rank and file as well. if you on a fixed term contract or if you're a freelancer, you may very differently if you are very differently than if you are a time of staff. and a full time member of staff. and i my time things may i from my time that things may have little bit but have changed a little bit but news on radio in particular had huge amounts of members of staff who were contracts, was who were on staff contracts, was in vast majority in television. the vast majority of staff fixed of the staff on fixed term contracts or freelancers. so there's a very big even within there's a very big even within the rank and file as it were, of the rank and file as it were, of the bbc staff. but i do appreciate that that get made up huge impact on everybody who works for an organisation and for the way people got interact with the organisation . and it's with the organisation. and it's interesting, isn't it, that people in bbc sports, the actual people, commentators, the presenters, pundits , etc, presenters, the pundits, etc, they said that they have actually said that they have actually said that they stand in solidarity with gary , not necessarily say that
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gary, not necessarily say that they what he said, they agree with what he said, but standing but they're standing in solidarity , how they feel solidarity with, how they feel he's treated. i think he's been treated. and i think to asked to down actually to be asked to down is actually just a fancy way for saying you've suspended, it you've been suspended, isn't it 7 you've been suspended, isn't it ? agreed with ? because he hasn't agreed with the standing down of it. so he has suspended over a tweet or organisation that he doesn't work full time for, you know, just to say that actually we are. where do you stop? where do you draw the line? because in terms of free, you know, free speech has to have limits depending on who work for depending on who you work for what position is. but what your position is. but i think if he tweets something on a wednesday, on a wednesday, he's not working for bbc. he's not working for the bbc. i'm this is the i'm just saying, this is the thing those the great minds thing for those the great minds to their heads around does thing for those the great minds to bringeir heads around does thing for those the great minds to bring the eads around does thing for those the great minds to bring the bbc around does thing for those the great minds to bring the bbc disrepute.es thing for those the great minds to bring the bbc disrepute. if not bring the bbc disrepute. if he only works the bbc on say, friday and saturday. yeah. does bbc police what he does on a wednesday? this is this is the thing that has to be sorted out. will it be sorted out by next week next weekend? i don't have another chance. i you know what?
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it's really fascinating to talk to. thank you very much indeed. really appreciate. it raises all these points i hadn't thought of. so really interesting, of. so it's really interesting, carl, yes. well you carl, all morning. yes. well you go rating . let us know what you go rating. let us know what you think about that then we'd have to turn him into a member of staff and then we have to be very what he says. i very careful what he says. i think of the day think anyway, match of the day is to be of time is going to be a waste of time tonight to be perfectly honest. so we've got something for you. we've got match of the day, 10:00. a star studded 10:00. we've got a star studded panel. 10:00. we've got a star studded panel . we've got a load of panel. we've got a load of pundits. we've got it's a proper, proper football programme with mark dolan. so everything you need to see tonight , everything you need to see tonight, we'll have it for you on eight. further to match of the day here on tv. now the uk is fund a detention centre on is to fund a detention centre on soil in an attempt to try and stop the flow of migrants crossing into the uk via the channel. was agreed in paris channel. it was agreed in paris yesterday between pm and president macron at a summit at the elysee palace to try to tackle the issue. the uk is expected to contribute £480
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million in funding over the next three years to try and help fund the measures which are expected to be fully operating by 2026. well, to go that and much more, we're joined now by columnist and parliamentary sketch writer madeleine grant, who joins us in the . good morning, the studio. good morning, madeleine. first of all, madeleine. and first of all, your opinion on this summit and how you think it went. it was significant, wasn't it? the first anglo—french summit in five years and it certainly looked very cosy . and your looked very cosy. and your macron and rishi sunak walking up the steps of the de paris palace . there was lots of back palace. there was lots of back rubbing, holding of one another. the papers it a bromance. it certainly looked very romantic, didn't it? it was like, i don't know what is about these world leaders. they can't seem to keep dance off each other. the g7 is just kind of essential. but i thought you know, it's it was certainly move in the positive direction certainly especially following on from the agreement reached with the eu over the northern ireland issue that you know, it does feel like we sunak
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is attempting to show to the world that, you know, we have we're turning a corner and eu but i really think it will to very little until he can kind of show to the general public what this better relationship translates it's translates in policy terms it's tangible benefits because right now you know it's good mood music and the rest of it but unless it materialises into something that has the people actually feel i think it will all amount to nothing. but of course people want to feel is will see is a reduction in people crossing the channel in small boats. now this may be a step in right direction for step in the right direction for that doing some processing that and doing some processing and detention centres and things overin and detention centres and things over in france the question is and it was raised by stephen kinnock on the programme yesterday, is it cart before the horse in the sense that unless you've got returns agreements in place, none of this sort of works anyway. yeah. i mean it's a good it's a good question and i wonder, i a good it's a good question and iwonder, i mean, a good it's a good question and i wonder, i mean, obviously we don't know the ins and outs of what talking about. is this a preamble towards those kinds of
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agreements that are so that are so that will be so welcome right now not really sure. i now we're not really sure. i think know, certainly think that, you know, certainly it's that would it's something that the pm would be mad not to have tried to raise with with macron . but it raise with with macron. but it was interesting because in the language used it always felt like the prime minister was promising more about what the relationship than relationship would offer than macron. using more macron. macron was using more kind tentative language like kind of tentative language like i this relationship in ito see this relationship in the . whereas sunak was the future. whereas sunak was very forcefully saying this is a new relationship and a new dawn in. some respects we're on the back foot because it means that not only we this, you know, because of brexit where the smaller partner in one sense, but also we're asking we need the help stop a problem that we're getting in our country. yeah, exactly. and it's you know, it's a tricky one. it really, really is. but i just that this is one of those issues where it has the potential to go to totally backfire on the because they have been making obviously won't be thrilled that it got completely swallowed up by lineker in by the news of gary lineker in the headlines but they
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the headlines today but they are trying bring this bell trying really bring this bell very very loudly. trying really bring this bell very very loudly . the trying really bring this bell very very loudly. the prime minister made stopping the boats one five pledges at the one of his five pledges at the beginning and beginning of the year and therefore having drawn so much attention if it attention to this policy, if it if it doesn't work as previous attempts have failed , then it attempts have failed, then it risks backfiring on them in a big public way just before the next which would next election. yeah. which would be politically for them a disaster . madeleine, really good disaster. madeleine, really good to thank you very much, to see you. thank you very much, indeed. now we've got brilliant news because we've got an exclusive interview with the chancellor of the exchequer of the budget on wednesday. he spoke esther and phil on his plans to deliver growth and tackle inflation. what i want at all but by the way, liz truss was right to say that the central question is how we deliver growth . where i think deliver growth. where i think the mini budget was wrong was to say you can borrow to cut taxes because that's not sustainable that's not money that you've actually got. that's money you're borrowing. and so if
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we're going to cut taxes, pam , we're going to cut taxes, pam, eminently, then it needs to be a tax cut that we earn through higher growth and the first step is stability . and for stability is stability. and for stability you need response of all public finances . and that's why we took finances. and that's why we took some very difficult decisions. we did increase taxes . we we did increase taxes. we actually cut spending by more than we increased tax is in the autumn statement . so it was autumn statement. so it was a very, very difficult statement. what we now have is a responsible outlook for public finances. the markets recognised that by bringing down mortgage rates , interest rates and on rates, interest rates and on track to bring inflation down. but if you're saying to me as a conservative chancellor do i want to bring down taxes? well, i want to bring down personal taxes because that is at the heart of what being a conservative is. but i want to bnng conservative is. but i want to bring down business taxes even more so . i bring down business taxes even more so. i think bring down business taxes even more so . i think that's more so. i think that's fascinating, isn't is it easy? just responsible or the not just
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not giving voters what they want? it's a it's a tough line. you can see the full interview on esther and phil show, which is at 10:00, but they're here now morning to i mean, i think this is a i mean, i wait to hear the full interview because i just think it's absolutely fascinating that that line of, you know, we need to have reasonable expectations of what the economy can deliver, protect the economy can deliver, protect the economy can deliver, protect the economy in effect before we start getting rewards . i think start getting rewards. i think is such an important budget . so is such an important budget. so this is what's going to set the dial, got the general election on its way. it's how do we get the economy moving, how do we make sure that businesses are supported and which way is he balancing that? phil, you were asking him who now governs the country and the chancellor is it the forecast, the job or ? is it the forecast, the job or? is it him and is it the demands and requests of the public and business? and that's what we were probing him on. and as conservatives , i asked him, you
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conservatives, i asked him, you know, isn't he ashamed that we've the highest tax levels we've got the highest tax levels in 70? is it's interesting, phil, because he was i mean, saying that he wants growth. well yeah . i mean we all want well yeah. i mean we all want growth. there's a lot of people saying, well, increasing business rates from 19 to 25% is going to stunt and not improve it. yeah we pull that. we put that very point to him. he said he wants growth, but he's pursuing policies that seem to be leading to the exact opposite of growth. and we did challenge you on that. i mean, we you know, a low tax conservative know, i'm a low tax conservative i believe taxes . it was i believe in low taxes. it was reassuring that he reassuring to say that he believed said he believed in believed he said he believed in not to. but we'd like to see a bit more delivery of and bit more delivery of that. and you know the country is in huge debt still . and as esther asked debt still. and as esther asked him during the interview, is that because we are under attacks in people will surely not go to the highest tax levels on history. is it because we're overspending and do need to overspending and do we need to look at and i was wanting him to go back to his formative sort of
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years and his fundamentally understanding of conservatism because he actually is a thatcherite that's who inspired him go into politics. that's who inspired him to set up a business he talks about the sort of the big bang that it was that got our financial sector and that's what he wants to and it if he a run or if he had or if he had a run or if he had or he did run for leader if you had one he was wanting to take corporation down to 15. i said , corporation down to 15. i said, how can you have 10% higher on be content with that . i mean be content with that. i mean that's back to it in in a way back to my initial point if he says you know, he says he's a he's a low tax conservative. he says he wants to deliver what phil wants to deliver. and, you know, we all we all pay less tax and the economy booms all the rest of it. but he's doing rest of it. but he's not doing it now. he's at a fiscal responsibility saying, well, look i know it's a vote winner, look, i know it's a vote winner, but actually i'm being fiscally responsible at the he thinks he's sort of, i think, slightly scarred , as most people are, by scarred, as most people are, by what happened to liz truss when she cut taxes in her budget last yeah
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she cut taxes in her budget last year. and the mark said this is on and all rest of on affordable and all rest of it. and we saw the fallout from that both economically , that both economically, politically and think lots of politically and i think lots of people in the government are scarred by that and now scarred by that and are now desperate that they don't do anything the markets anything that spooks the markets . and so think we've got to a . and so i think we've got to a point, which is , you know, it's point, which is, you know, it's quite a worrying point in respects that the markets are the political narrative than the politicians. and jeremy hunt's making decisions that he knows that will not spook the markets rather than necessarily gold as we'd say what he genuinely would like in an ideal world to do. and then on a totally different subject topic wise, he was the longest serving health secretary even longest serving health secretary ever. we probed him about the was a pandemic plan in place in 2011 of day to 2014. one that was agreed with the all of the eu 27. why did they abandon that and go to lockdown you know, what has he got to say about that? and then obviously ask him, will we see him in the
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what's up? leeks will we see bofis what's up? leeks will we see boris between him and matt hancock ? and also did he ever hancock? and also did he ever think he would be the chancellor? and what happened when called and when liz truss called him and did he think rishi would keep him there's actually him on? so there's actually within that we within the interview that we talk about, you know, i know of months i didn't give you a chance to get a excited it and i can sympathise with that on a regular but oh oh i just find it so utterly fascinating. one it's not just it's not just getting it's not just a political interview is it getting more evidence because obviously you should me work with him and there's that you get much more of a real sense of what is going on.and of a real sense of what is going on. and like you say, the man behind the policies as well, it's really fascinating as lots look to comprehensive look forward to comprehensive interview and phil. interview esther and phil. thanks your show at thanks so much and your show at ten is closed. absolutely. thank you. sure you don't miss you. to make sure you don't miss that, i'm oddly that, i love it. i'm oddly excited about you. hey, new more to come, including how mollie sue holderness is tackling fraud
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marlene yes. marlene honestly . marlene yes. marlene honestly. only fools and horses. what a classic. i had the pleasure of doing something alongside john challis, a few years ago, who sadly is sadly passed away now.
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and i got him to say, marlene, for me , which is you just must for me, which is you just must get sick. it was he got so bored of doing it. but interestingly, marlene herself, sue holderness, who spent years and years entertaining it, i mean, only fools who doesn't love it. and you just see, you know, a successful actress doing well andifs successful actress doing well and it's really brave that she's come forward to say she's been scammed . she's been scammed. scammed. she's been scammed. some people have scammed. and we know scams exist . and so now know scams exist. and so now she's got involved in a campaign to help those over 65 avoid scams because the scoundrels are out about doing it every opportunity. so it's a brave thing to do and to admit you've been a victim of this. i'm delighted that sue holderness joins us now. it's really good to see you this morning . and to see you this morning. and what happened to you , sue? how what happened to you, sue? how did you fall into this trap ? did you fall into this trap? well you know, the thing is, i'm i panicked. i felt stupid . these
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i panicked. i felt stupid. these people, i was on this top that i'm talking to you on now. and there was this suddenly this very loud alarm, a bit like an ambulance alarm . and on the ambulance alarm. and on the screen it said emergency , do not screen it said emergency, do not touch any device. call this number. now you are being hacked. what's that? so i called the number immediately and he kept telling me things to do on the laptop that none of the still the alarm, no noise went on.and still the alarm, no noise went on. and he said, don't worry, i'll take your computer. i'll take over your computer. and you do to let and i did whatever you do to let them do that. so he took over my computer for about a quarter of an hour. i watched the screen doing things and then eventually he fine now, he said, it's all fine now, madam, completely safe madam, you're completely safe for at least a year. and i said, thank you so how do i know thank you so much. how do i know how do i owe you? and how much do i owe you? and i gave you, i think, £68. that didn't too bad. it did didn't seem too bad. and it did solve problem. exactly solve the problem. but exactly a year the same thing year later, the same thing happened. of course happened. and of course i trusted them. and then i gave them more money. they said them much more money. they said they were going to give me five years protection. my card years protection. i got my card out. read them number, i
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out. i read them the number, i read expiry date, read read the expiry date, i read the security and took security code and they took hundreds of quite quickly hundreds of pounds quite quickly . and i saw what an obvious, how stupid can you get and the reason i did it was because i had panicked. i couldn't bear this noise. i didn't think logically , so i didn't get my logically, so i didn't get my money back because i contacted the bank and i contacted vaccine fraud with this new campaign, which is called take five to stop fraud , which is led by uk stop fraud, which is led by uk finance . a lot of work gone into finance. a lot of work gone into it . they're trying to protect it. they're trying to protect everybody, but it's particular really over 65. you know, obviously these criminals, they think pension savings , big, think pension savings, big, hopeless online , they might they hopeless online, they might they might be nervous and panic is exactly what i did . so the exactly what i did. so the message is quite simple. take five to stop fraud. three words to hang on to stop, challenge, protect, stop . just count to protect, stop. just count to five slowly before you make a payment . well, before you give payment. well, before you give away any of your information, challenge it. say, i think you're a con artist, and if you
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don't actually see it, then just rejected. refuse it, ignore it. if you it's a con, see oh if you think it's a con, see oh and click on nothing . but if you and click on nothing. but if you succumb to it and you do feel you've lost money, the thing to do is to protect yourself and the way to protect yourself is as as possible. ring as quickly as possible. ring your bank and ring action fraud . those are the messages. stop, challenge to protect. so it's a really fun you go on the take five to stop fraud website . if five to stop fraud website. if you want a bit of fun, you can print out a wonderful bingo game called scam bingo , which if you called scam bingo, which if you play called scam bingo, which if you play that, you'll all find ways of helping to keep yourself safe onune. of helping to keep yourself safe online . great idea. so it's online. great idea. so it's really important campaign and really, really brave of you speaking. i think many people can relate to the idea of feeling stupid or or feeling naive, but it's important to also get that message that you shouldn't feel that way. you shouldn't feel that way. you shouldn't feel that way. you shouldn't feel stupid when you are fallen victim to fraud. it happens to so many people . and happens to so many people. and the point is, it is so sophisticated . hate it as you sophisticated. hate it as you say, these scammers , they often
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say, these scammers, they often play say, these scammers, they often play on the idea that somebody is panicked and they also play on people's trust , don't they? on people's trust, don't they? it's just so sophisticated. it's so difficult for people to be able to tell what is what is fraud and what is real life . and fraud and what is real life. and they terribly clever . the they are terribly clever. the most important thing is just is not to feel embarrassed and to and in fact , it is very, very and in fact, it is very, very great. deals of money have been lost by people on dating sites and that is one of the most dangerous areas you knew an older person, lonely, suddenly feels he's in love and this person then suddenly it is the mortgage that people have lost all their savings. and that's largely because they then feel so stupid that they don't own up in time, don't be embarrassed. these clever if you have any doubt phoned the police and phone action fraud . we've got to phone action fraud. we've got to be i mean i tell you what's happened with me recently someone cloned my instagram account and was in messaging viewers and listeners and saying, oh, it's stephen here.
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i'm raising money for ukraine or for turkey. one for turkey as well. you know, donate here and it just goes to show that actually you've really got when it comes to online, you can't trust anything , can you? you've trust anything, can you? you've just got so wary. trust anything, can you? you've just got so wary . and one of the just got so wary. and one of the latest things , one of the girls latest things, one of the girls on loose women said that they had a message from their daughter saying that she was in terrible trouble, she was abroad, that she'd lost everything and needed £2,000 to get home. it was worded peculiarly and not like i thought would have worded it, thought i would have worded it, but for a moment that mum thought , how do but for a moment that mum thought, how do i but for a moment that mum thought , how do i get but for a moment that mum thought, how do i get this money? my daughter. and money? is my daughter. and that happens you know, giants happens a lot. you know, giants trying pull the emotional trying to pull on the emotional heartstrings, but. but take five to stop it just take five. think this is probably a con. to stop it just take five. think this is probably a con . yeah, this is probably a con. yeah, i'm sure it's a message that will resonate. people and i'm really glad you've been able to come on and tell us about it. i
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can't let you go without just saying. obviously, you'll have heard my dreadful john challis impression at the beginning. do you a laugh ? but do you really get a laugh? but do you really get a laugh? but do you do you ever get bored with that or is it just just a point of joy that you have a place in the heart of the nation? i i would have gone on playing marlene for the rest of my days. it's, it's feels very peculiar. marlene, without voice. it isn't right at all, is it? but i sort of feel he's still here and, you know, we had the most wonderful time, and it is a great honour , time, and it is a great honour, really, that it has meant so much to people for so long. we had the only fools and horses convention at weekend and convention at the weekend and many that through many people said that through their lives they've had a difficult , hard times their lives they've had a difficult, hard times and only fools and horses has really helped. so, you know, think helped. so, you know, i think john saved the nhs john sullivan has saved the nhs a because laughter is a fortune because laughter is the best medicine. yeah it is. and i tell you, it's somehow doesn't age and it's just it's just a classic. it's a real joy to talk to you. so thank you very much. enjoyed that. that is what what a great message . take
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what what a great message. take five sip and especially what happened with with sue and you computer starts yelling and script flashing and the rest of it shut the lid chocolate and just sing right. if something like that happens, it's a it's going to be it can't just be careful but it is so sophisticated. i mean, my mum's have one of those messages saying, mom, it's me, i've lost my phone, messaging on my phone, i'm messaging on a friend's phone. please, you friend's phone. please, can you send this taxi? send me this much for taxi? i mean, it's completely believable. kisses and everything is as though you're messaging you and messaging your mom. you and i says it really plays on the heartstrings. very sophisticated . is you're not . but the message is you're not silly . if you fall victim to silly. if you fall victim to fraud, go and get help, seek help. speak to the police. help. you speak to the police. speak to take five. they're a great campaign group as well. it happens best of us. yeah. happens to the best of us. yeah. there go. now, coming up, there you go. now, coming up, because so much of the day is going to be wash out tonight. going to be a wash out tonight. haven't got a presenter or commentators or or commentators or pundits or anything. but anything. what's the point? but we've alternative for we've got an alternative for you. mark dolan is going to tell us about it in a couple of
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insisted on working despite what every tweet. good morning to air what's happening at ten tonight then we're going to have alternative match of the day as you know, ali and stephen, we are the people's channel and the people need commentary, they need punditry . match of the day, need punditry. match of the day, clocks in at 7 million viewers a week. so if the bbc will not serve that audience, then gb news and mark dolan tonight are happy to step in. it's going to be the alternative match of the day. i am gary lineker and to make it really feel like match of the day gb news are going to pay of the day gb news are going to pay me £1.3 million. so then oh well done. you know , how is this well done. you know, how is this going to work then ? because is going to work then? because is it an actual football show or are you just talking about football? because presumably there's a rights issue ? there's a rights issue? absolutely so we won't be able to show live footage of what not life recorded footage of goals or anything like that. what we will have is top level punditry , so we will have an array of
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pubuc , so we will have an array of public political free footballers. okay, these are going to be commentators who are not interested in getting involved in government policy and understand that the british pubuc and understand that the british public love their footy and just want to talk about goals. goals goals. we've got some big games bournemouth, liverpool , everton, bournemouth, liverpool, everton, brentford , tottenham, forest and brentford, tottenham, forest and palace man city . so look, it's palace man city. so look, it's going to be an all star line up. we're going to have some fun. we're going to have some fun. we're going to talk about the football. we'll try to have still photography and as many clips can our hands clips as we can get our hands on. let's look forward on. fabulous. let's look forward to mark sounds brilliant. it does. and since we've helped promote your this morning, promote your show this morning, we 10% of your 1.3 million we want 10% of your 1.3 million for tonight. if that's the right , it's all yours. for tonight. if that's the right , it's all yours . fabulous. so , it's all yours. fabulous. so there you go , mark. great stuff. there you go, mark. great stuff. we'll see you a little bit later. all well, a lot later on, actually . 12 hours ago, i was actually. 12 hours ago, i was worried he's going to be in the studio with us. i thought this test was too far in advance 5
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hours before a show. yeah. so i'll tell you what, though. it's he's quite right because there's an audience and the bbc audience, of course, is as well asked , do we have no choice but asked, do we have no choice but to pay the licence fee and they, for whatever reason, whether you think the bbc's nick is right and they're not serving the audience . no, not tonight, at audience. no, not tonight, at least , no. audience. no, not tonight, at least, no. why don't we sort it for next week? i think long king mark will. yeah. anyway on top of all of that and all that hoo ha with the bbc and match of the day, it's now been reported the beeb has pulled an episode from sir david attenborough. his new series , due to fears of series, due to fears of a political backlash . yes, the political backlash. yes, the episode looks at loss of episode looks at the loss of nature in the uk and what has caused the declines, bosses caused the declines, with bosses repeatedly worried about backlash politician backlash from tory politician fans, stephanie touches him , fans, stephanie touches him, mourning small . what's going on? mourning small. what's going on? oh my gosh. to be this has been a really bad week for the gary lineker. it's david attenborough, two of the most loved presenters is for the bbc
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and it was only this week david attenborough was voted britain's most favourite presenter . but most favourite presenter. but with this new series , i know with this new series, i know you're the best, steve in always , but you know , with this series , but you know, with this series it's called the volatile isles. you know, sir david attenborough, he goes all over the world, but this is actually just focussed on the beauty of the british isles and there's five episodes, but there's a six episode which is only going to be available on the iplayer because been reported because it's been reported that it focuses on the destruction of nature. it focuses on topics such as we wilding, which has been quite controversial for tories and the right wing press. so the bbc have been forced to come out overnight to say actually no, this is not true. the plan was always to make it a six as a film that would be on the iplayer and not be shown on tv, which is kind of amazing. a few eyebrows because this is david attenborough. his work david attenborough. all his work should on and the should always be on tv and the fact this six episodes, fact that this six episodes, which most controversial
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which is the most controversial show one now being shoved to show one is now being shoved to the iplayer. you and the iplayer. it's, you and a best selling point minds, which as a marketing strategy if for whatever reason the companies wanting to get people away from watching on the box and watching on the iplayer . yeah. then it's on the iplayer. yeah. then it's a good marketing way of doing it. then it can't be it. yeah. then it can't be saying why don't you do it for all of the episodes. it's why is it that the controversial it that the most controversial of which he of one of the series which he know would get a lot of people talking on social media like all wrong, you're kind of wrong, but you're kind of shoving only player shoving it. it's the only player and just i would to and it's just i would love to hear sir david attenborough hear what sir david attenborough has on this, because this has to say on this, because this is one of the few series that he's done, which is actually based so i think based in britain. so i think every episode, whether it's good or all controversial, or bad, all controversial, should on should have been celebrated on tv. but it will the same tv. but it will be the same criticism for this as we were seeing with gary lineker that he is in some way being censored or restricted in restraining on his free from greg free speech. we heard from greg times morning, the former times this morning, the former bbc director who basically said, where line he's where is the line he's surrounded sugar with sir surrounded sugar is it with sir david and that's
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david attenborough? and that's what we're seeing here well. what we're seeing here as well. i just think, know, we all i just think, you know, we all know people on tv know as people who are on tv like have that freedom like we should have that freedom of but i think of expression. and but i think obviously the corporations obviously with the corporations such bbc, i've for such as the bbc, i've worked for them previously in the past and it's always about impartiality. and in that and i think now we're in that kind generation where people kind of generation where people do to talk things do want to talk about things both good bad . why should both good and bad. why should people i think, people be censored and i think, you both of these you know, with both of these situations have arise, bbc situations that have arise, bbc are to have to really are now going to have to really look guidelines see look at their guidelines and see how working with folk how they're working with folk interested got interested in. and so we've got various p stars in the various unhappy p stars in the air in the uk. we've got some unhappy stars in the states as well with the razzies last night as well. so tomorrow's all about the oscars and we know how all the oscars and we know how all the egos going to be on the the egos are going to be on the red carpet. but the razzies is really a humbling awards really quite a humbling awards because worst because it celebrates the worst of films, whether it's perform ences, whether it's cinema , talk ences, whether it's cinema, talk of free blonde has been voted the worst picture of the year. so this stars and it's an arm as as marilyn monroe and the reason why it has been nominated is for
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this because they feel like they're making a mockery of marilyn monroe because it's not actually piece . actually a non—fiction piece. it's kind focus is quite it's kind of focus is quite fiction , lies, life, and they fiction, lies, life, and they feel like they've just kind of exploited her story. very much so. then also was actually so. and then also was actually jared leto . so for his jared leto. so for his performance in morbius , which is performance in morbius, which is a marvel film, and he plays the scientist with a rare blood disease , and he and he mixes his disease, and he and he mixes his blood with some vampire blood. so it's been quite controversial. the razzies and also tom hanks. i love him. so, yeah , he's got worst supporting yeah, he's got worst supporting acting for his role in elvis is elvis's manager. see i don't understand the whole elvis thing because he's been the plaudits for what's his face, who plays elvis? yeah yeah. and yet, am i wrong? but i at the time it bombed at the box office, it did bombed at the box office, it did bomb at the box office. there was all this hype around it. but when they actually got when it was about getting bums on seats in cinemas, it didn't really do that. i know why
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that. well, i don't know why i feel like it really i think also is quite gripping as well. i think, you know, puzzlement and a of it. but sometimes a great job of it. but sometimes there's that disconnect there's always that disconnect between actually what between music is actually what they to see. i think they really want to see. i think they really want to see. i think the about season is the thing about awards season is we shoved all titles we get shoved all these titles and a of people who and there's a lot of people who don't connect with them. they prefer blockbuster the prefer the blockbuster or the action movie. yeah, it seems like never, never like marvel things never, never win at the oscars . i mean, win at the oscars. i mean, they're the ones that get bums on seats. i love marvel. i love that they can't you know, that they can't do, you know, one my eyes. but yeah, one in my eyes. but yeah, i think the dresses are quite humbling and i think there's a, you know, as talking about you know, as we're talking about now this segment, it's all now in this segment, it's all about have to take about balance. you have to take both good the you both the good and the bad. you do. tell you what, we just do. i tell you what, we just have a out at the have a night out at the pictures. oh, that sounds great. i love a marvel. i want to see a rom com. do you like one? kind of a long, know, no other of a long, you know, no other one i oh, i want to marvel one role? i oh, i want to marvel one. yeah, i tell you like marvel status separately then. yeah. nights. yeah. different types of nights. yeah. different types of nights. yeah. because i'm not one to yeah. no, because i'm not one to go and see marvel with. oh so that be steven and
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that would be steven and stephanie. you know, i think that be i want to ask that could be a i want to ask you because we were yeah, we were going to talk to love age were going to talk to a love age gap couple, right? yeah well, sadly, it looks like we can't get the kind . i want you to ask get the kind. i want you to ask anyway . yeah. because the sort anyway. yeah. because the sort of thing for it round is cher. yeah. who's now 76 dating a 37 and she does believe in film. she clearly does . but she said she clearly does. but she said if a 39 year age gap is wrong, i don't want to be right . if a 39 year age gap is wrong, i don't want to be right. i think it's different with celebrities age gaps because people always question the motives mostly of a toyboy when he's with old women. such a shame because a lot of the criticism is what are you seeing in a woman who's 76 years old and you a 37 year old man shares quite well. see, she looks great, right? she looks good for age. but you cannot deny she's almost, you know, get into our eighties, guys. it begs the question , it's okay when we the question, it's okay when we see men , younger women or
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see men, younger women or younger towie boys, there's no question about that. but when it's when it's a woman, it seems to always ruffle a few feathers. and i think now women are actually changing what it means to be 50, 60, 70. she doesn't as a woman, 80, 76. you know, she looks good for her age. so if she looks good and she feels good and she's managed to bag a toyboy go cher at 76. if i'm not married and haven't got my husband and a boy wants me to say yes, i'll be like, yeah, it's quite much, but i'll be aware of his my tastes because they are a lot of opportunists and especially someone like chen and especially someone like cher, you know, she's got all that money. he's also a music producer as well. so he actually benefits from being in this relationship . so yeah, i think relationship. so yeah, i think i know this is a bit raunchy, but they're both serving each other's needs well for this fabulous , isn't it for me? i'm fabulous, isn't it for me? i'm i'm. you see, i'm a bit cynical about the whole madonna's going, oh, boyfriend . now if he sees oh, boyfriend. now if he sees the interesting you go, oh, and
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i think that with cher. yeah i don't know i just think it's chen don't know i just think it's cher. it's fine. i think is fine with cher. but i think madonna's been doing a bit to grease and she's had this succession of tours very often , toyboy and tours very often, toyboy and with cher, she does it in an elegant way. when madonna, if you instagram, she's you go on instagram, she's always plastering her like knocking off the face of a young boy. and she's got he was boy. and she's got kids. he was similar age at least, which similar that age at least, which her children are grown up and she keeps relationship she keeps her relationship private. madonna, i felt private. when madonna, i felt like madonna chasing eternal like madonna is chasing eternal youth . and then, i mean, the youth. and then, i mean, the thing is. which i if you thing is. which i mean, if you if you're watching on tv now, she does look about 40 years old. she does age . she old. i mean, she does age. she has a lot of help . she admits, has a lot of help. she admits, my worry would be what you have in common with someone who's maybe 40 is younger than you. i mean, you wouldn't even know the same references. would you be out for dinner be talking out for dinner and be talking about like, well, i about things like, well, i was born? well, maybe the cracks always do come in these relationships because when they do breaking do end up breaking up in showbiz, everyone's i
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showbiz, everyone's like, oh, i told you so. i did she think it was really going to last? but there's saying, you're only there's that saying, you're only as he feels it is, as young, old as he feels it is, old as young as you feel. and so maybe she doesn't feel like she's 76. maybe feels a she's 76. maybe she feels like a woman her fifties or 40. so woman in her fifties or 40. so you youthful. you know, she's quite youthful. so many soldiers and men, you feel and what's wrong with i just sort of think she's she's a woman with a lot of nous. yeah she's been through the wringer a bit. has she had a relationship with sunny and you know, if that didn't work out so , you know, didn't work out so, you know, she wants a bit of revival . i she wants a bit of revival. i just i just think i don't know what. she's just sort of iconic. we would listen. oddly enough, we have a bit to get is in the mood yeah on a saturday morning just this is about cool it was cool. it's a six in the morning yeah we have to leave the night. that's a blasting out i think just because it means we're nice and perfect for you at 6:00 in the morning and it's just in the papen the morning and it's just in the paper. right. you've got to be
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breezy, you know what? life's too short, i think is each their own. and people need to do what makes if it's makes them happy. and if it's dating man 40 years younger, dating a man 40 years younger, well, strokes well, what? different strokes for my for different folks means? my husband been born. husband hasn't even been born. well, there you go. you have to wait a while. women like me, we love. i mean, just to bring you some breaking news. so love. i mean, just to bring you some breaking news . so alex some breaking news. so alex scott, the bbc presenter, as she's pulled out of presenting football focus today following the bbc, asking gary lineker to step away from match of the day tonight. she's already said she's not going to be presenting match of the day. she won't be stepping his shoes. she's stepping into his shoes. she's now pulled now also pulled out of presenting football focus. kellie been brought kellie summers has been brought in last minute to replace her for programme. alex scott for the programme. alex scott says doing it in says she's not doing it in soledar party with gary lineker. the latest out, i don't know. you see there's a lot of sympathy out there and don't sympathy out there and i don't know is all just of know whether this is all just of the contracts cancelled because i i but is not i don't know. i but that is not me being too harsh to and reactionary it might well be. we've got more on this coming up
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good morning. i'm alex deakin and this is your latest weather update from the met office. it will be turning mild this weekend, but it's cold out there this morning potentially pretty icy as well, especially where we've had some snow. the culprit for that snow, this area of low pressure has now cleared away. weather fronts are trying to pushin weather fronts are trying to push in from the west, but for most places , it's a dry, sunny most places, it's a dry, sunny start. but it is frosty out
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there. now this weather front is providing dylan damp conditions in the southwest . mostly rain in the southwest. mostly rain here, but some snow over the moors. and as that wet weather creeps into parts of wales and northern ireland's here to a little bit of snow is likely dunng little bit of snow is likely during the day again mostly over hills however , for much of hills however, for much of northern and eastern england and most scotland, it'll be a most of scotland, it'll be a fine bright day with sunny spells, but it is cold temperatures for five, six, seven or eight, perhaps in one or two spots. it is turning milder, though, in the southwest, and that is a sign of things to come. but the cold air still place over northern still in place over northern england scots . and as england and scots. and so as this comes in later this wet weather comes in later today, the midlands today, parts of the midlands to we to see some we are going to see some snowfall lasting too long, we are going to see some snoyitall lasting too long, we are going to see some snoyit could lasting too long, we are going to see some snoyit could cause|g too long, we are going to see some snoyit could cause some long, we are going to see some snoyit could cause some further but it could cause some further disruptions spreading into scotland through the night . scotland through the night. slippery on the roads slippery conditions on the roads . so yes, met office do have . so yes, the met office do have another warning in place . it another warning in place. it won't be as cold tomorrow morning as it is this morning. most places staying above freezing, enough freezing, but still cold enough for sleet and snow to be falling first thing across northern
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scotland for part of scotland for a good part of england. wales tomorrow, drawing a getting a bright day, getting some sunshine things sunshine around before things cloud right? push into cloud over right? push into northern ireland and scotland and it will mostly be rain at this stage, just some snow on the mountains the tops of the mountains because it's turning milder by the of the day, double the end of the day, double digits across the board. digits almost across the board. the air still place the cold air still in place across scotland, across northern scotland, but elsewhere , turning much, much elsewhere, turning much, much milder could the teens milder could be into the teens by end of sunday. at the by the end of sunday. at the same time, another weather system comes in bringing wet weather night. but weather on sunday night. but although it's turning milder this at this . the this weekend, look at this. the blues cold air return blues and the cold air return next week . next week. global end. and welcome to saturday morning with esther and phil here on gb news. today we've got our exclusive interview with the chancellor of the exchequer. yes, in advance of the spring budget next week, we if ashamed we asked him if he's ashamed about the high level of taxation

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