we'll see you next fox news sunday. ♪ >> on one hand their leader brass about nuclear power. on the other hand they want to make nice, asking for talks. can anyone negotiate with iran and will the u.s. stand behind israel and stand up to ahmadinejad. an action movie with no stuntmen. real life navy seals using real live ammo. directors of "act of valor" join

the governor tonight. ladies and gentlemen, governor mike huckabee. [applause]. >> hello, everybody. thank you. thank you very much. great audience. we are delighted to have you. welcome to huckabee from the fox news studios in new york city. over the next ten days i'm going to be in israel taking a group of about 175 people to see firsthand this remarkable nation and an american ally. we will travel and visit the great biblical and his score tal sites of that shaped world history and have been the bedrock of faith for thousands of years. i have often said that reading the bible before a trip to israel is reading it in black and white. but after visiting this incredible land it's like reading it in living color. now we will, of course, visit not only the places made famous from the old and new testments but i'm going to make sure those that go with me get a firsthand

understanding of why the happenings in the tiny little country about the size of new jersey really do matter to every american. the u.s. and israel don't simply share the organizational relationship between allies, we share the organic relationships of nations of those who died to give personal and religious liberty to their generations. it is tied to people are free. godden do youd us with life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. our commitment to free speech, dissent c our own government and the ability to choose our leaders through elections are just a part of our bond. today, even as i prepare to go, the radical leadership of iran's totalitarian government is rapidly moving toward the creation of its own nuclear weapon. for those who argue iran has as

much right to nuclear arms as the u.s., russia, park stan, israel or india, let's make the distinction. each. those nations have developed their nuclear capacity as a deterrent. they have nuclear devices precisely as to hope to never use them. iran uniquely stands alone as a nation whose president openly declare he would like to use devices begins israel and the united states. this is a nation that already has demonstrate the that it is willing to murder its own citizens in the streets for protesting the brute alex sess of the iranian government and a country that will kill its own women in cold blood, certainly won't hesitate to kill the en sense from a nation that it considers to be infidels. the aren't u.s. administration has been openly critical of israel for building bedrooms for its own people in their own neighbors, but have been much less demand to go confront iran for building bombs. now few doubt that israel will

at some point have to take military action to preempt an iranian nuclear threat. few know whether the u.s. can be counted on as a reliable partner when that day comes. don't be naive, the iranians hatred and contempt of israel is exceeded only by their hatred and contempt of the united states. aiming something as israel is just practice for their big target, you. that's my view, and i welcome you. you can contact me at mikehuckabee.com and when you do click on the link on the home page. e-mail me. you can also contact me on facebook or sign up to follow me on twitter. by the way, my new york city times best selling book "a simple government, something congress needs a little more of" it's out in paper book. you can carry it wherever you go now. this week israeli prime minister

called iran the most irresponsible force in the world. saying that a nuclear iran should concern the united states and every other country. the prime minister's former chief of staff, natali bennett, joins us from jerusalem. it's great to have you with us today. thanks for joining me. >> thank you. it's nice to be here. >> let's start by talking about the very real threat that is being posed by the iranians. they have made lots of comments. the saber rattling is real. just this weekend we have now learned they are moving ships through the suez canal in direct sort of flagrant violation of everything to keep peace in that area. is israel imminent in taking action against iran for their nuclear buildup? >> governor, iran is racing toward acquiring a nuclear weapon. we are at the last moment.

this will be the first time in world history that a radical islamic regime will acquire a nuclear weapon. the day after they have the pom will be a different day for the entire world. they are an octopus of terrorists sending their arms to india, to bangkok, to washington, to europe and to lebanon and the whole world. we have to stop them and, yes, it is imminent. >> is israel in a position to be able to hang on in a sustained military action, a hot war in a country like iran that has built up a significant military? >> well, if necessary, we will. obviously america has much more capabilities of sustaining an attack on iran, but right now as it stands, most of iran's facilities are still vulnerable. they are moving their facilities underground so that's why we are at the very last moment. right now we could still take

them out based on public knowledge, but a year from now it's going to be a whole different ballgame. that's why over the next twelve months the world has to act. >> one of the maybe different things that i'm seeing in this administration than in previous u.s. administrations is the confidence of the israeli people as to whether the u.s. could be counted on to back them up if they have to take action. the israelis have never asked us to join with them in a military action, never. i think a americans don't know that. we've supplied arms and we've supplied equipment, even planes, but we have never supplied soldiers to an isreali action. israel has never asked us for that. but we've always provided what i would call cover. we've provided a clear directive that we were behind israel and supported them. israelis that i talk to today, naftali, do not feel that they are confident that this administration would stand behind an isreali action. is that the view on the streets in israel right now?

>> yes, it is, governor. for the first -- for the past three years america's administration has squandered the ability to impose crippling and even paralyzing sanctions on iran. the sanctions being imposed now are too little too late. we do not know for sure that america will be there for us in this current administration, and that's why we are concerned. we are being told israel, do not attack iran, but how can we not do it? we don't know what what we are g to see twelve months from now. we have no guarantees others will take care of it. twice in the past israel took over and bombed facilities, the first one was in iraq in 1981. the whole world condemned us but after the whole world blessed us for doing it. likewise 2007 in syria. imagine, governor, as right now as the regime is about to fall, he would have two or three

nuclear bombs. what would the world look like? if necessary, we will do the job for the world, but please, please, don't tell us to stand back and just wait and i guess pray for something good to happen. >> and especially, naftali, practicing for something good to happen out of the iranians. and praying for the iranian people, and the iranian government, for whom i have zero respect for the government, bus they have shown their complete irrational attitude, not just toward israel but toward the united states. speak to the fact you are not the only people in the middle east concerned about irans, so are the saudis and jordan and there is a universal anxiety about iran that exists in the middle east. >> that's absolutely right, governor. iran achieving or acquiring a nuclear bomb would mean they have the entire region. a nuclear race with the saudis,

the gulf states, everyone in this region does not want iran to acquire a bomb and we need to do everything possible to stop them. in fact the saudis and the gulf states have committed to bump in as much oil as necessary to offset any oil taken off of the market by iran so we don't need to worry too much about prices spiking. we have to do the job. if obama won't do it, please let israel do the job. >> naftali i want to say thank you for joining me. former chief of staff to prime minister netanyahu. but everyone in that region and host of the people in the free world of hoping that israel will carry out this mission at some point in the not-too-distant future you are. the only entity that seems to be a little reluctant is the united states administration. even both houses of congress and both democrat and republican parties are for it, and i hope that you guys will have the full support of the american people. i hope to see you next week, naftali. thanks for being with me today.

>> thanks so much, governor. thank you very much. >> coming up, the daily look into the hard-core operation of media matters for america. a taxpayer subsidized group doing everything in its power to attack and discredit the very network that you are watching right now. stay with us.

>> recently at fox news we celebrated ten years as the number one network. but media matters is leading a campaign to strike at the heart of fox news with the goal of disabling it. they have gone so far as hiring private investigators to look into the lives of fox news employees. i'm sure they are looking in on mine right now. boy, will they be bored.

but a caller exposed the media matters operation. fox news contributor tucker carlson joins me now from washington. tucker. this is a fascinating, if not explosive series that the daily caller has been doing. and interestingly let's talk about, first, this idea that they are digging up dirt on fox employees. that's the stuff of a political campaign, not a watch dog organization. >> and not even a legitimate political campaign. i don't know a single presidential campaign, i know your campaign didn't do that and i don't know anyone who would do that because it's risky and unethical and it would potentially backfire. but we obtained an internal memo from media matters that laid out a plan to undermine fox. hiring private investigators to, quote, look into the personal lives of fox employees, targeting them online, going to their homes, placing billboards across from their houses, really harassment and placing moles within fox news.

sort of war without limits against fox. >> there was a memo that you guys were able to obtain, this is just one of the quotes from it. it says "we must take fox news head on in a well-funded presidential style campaign to discredit and embarrassing the network making it illegitimate in the eyes of news consumers" again that seems lylely unusual but another thing is you uncovered a reporter that is now at another news organization apparently had this information more than a year ago. >> yes, he did. >> never really revealed the intensity of things tharpe being uncovered by this moment mow. why didn't he report the story? i mean, any journalist ought to jump at that just as a news story regardless of your point of view. >> you would think. and in the course of our reporting we were told by media matters employees that ben smith at politico were oner their go-to reporters. someone they would leak things

to, someone they felt was a useful pawn for them. we asked ben about this and in the course of that it turned out he obtained a copy of a 90 page memo about a year ago and never printed a vast majority of its contents. that's a betrayal of the core idea of journalism, which is find news that's newsworthy and bring it to your readers. for whatever reason he did not report that information. we think that's one of several examples of mainstream, so-called mainstream reporters doing the bidding of media matters. >> i want to be fair to all of our viewers to explain that what media matters reports is their business. that's fine. i mean, in a country where we value free speech, they are free to say things even if they are untrue and reckless, all of which they have done. but here's the rub and this is what i think is the heart of the story that needs to be told, and needs a thorough investigation. it's one thing if you do that as

a political organization because then you are using people's dollars that are nontax-exempt. >> that's right. >> and you are just saying i want to do this. but if you do it under the guys of a 501c3, nonprofit organization and your donors are getting tax benefits for doing this, they are not allowed by law to make these kind of statements. so speak to the fact that this is not about their ability to say what they want to say, it is about their ability to use my tax dollars to come and basically destroy me and the organization that i work for. >> that's exactly right. i mean, we aren't contesting their right to have left wing political views. lots of people do. we are contesting their right to take taxpayer subsidies to espouse those views. and they are also in close collusion with the obama white house. we have records of a meeting between the president and media matters, david brock, and valerie, the president's top

advisor. we have knowledge and reported of a weekly conference call between the white house and media matters. and others another meeting they attend with media matters. this is in effect an arm of the obama campaign and our view is and i think the view of any nonalliance person looking at this, that's fine, but just don't expect to get tax-exempt status. in real life, as you know, it's very hard just to get anyone tax-exempt status revoked. that almost never happens. there are members of the congress now looking into media matters as tax exemption and we will see what happens from here. but that is the crux of why this is outrageous. >> you and i both know that churches are regularly threatened with the loss of their tax-exempt status because their pastor stood up and said he's against abortion or against marriage and that's from a pastor speaking his heart from a biblical world view. if that tax-exempt status is threatened, help me understand why we wouldn't have some

outrage going on, and why haven't other media organizations, the new york times and the washington post and abc and nbc and cbs, why have they not touched this story? >> because they are in deep sympathy with the aims of media matters in many cases and also because they are implicated in what media matters does. reporters from every institution you just named receive regularly and have received over the years information from media matters. they are part of the way, they are the main way, in fact, media matters disseminates its information. it's it's attacks on fox, it's attempt to help politicians, they are all part of that. they are hesitant to report ton and also media matters gets every benefit of every doubt. i can tell you what, if a fox memo were uncovered and fox executives were ais ing we are hiring detectives to look into the lives of some group we don't like, holy smoke, you don't think that will be page one new york times stories day after

day? >> i'm sure it would be. thank you for bringing this to our attention. great reporting on the part of the daily call. good to have you here. >> thank you. >> coming up, two prominent christian leaders, one is evangelical, one a cattle slick they say our nation is on a downward spiral that only a spiritual renewal can stop. the authors of a dynamic new book called indivisible join me

>> is our country losing the values that our founding fathers held, things like faith, family and freedom? my next guest says we have to restore them before it's too late. they are the coauthors of a brand new book called "indivisible." james is the founder of life

outreach and a noted catholic theology. i probably should tell people i once work as a director of communications doing radio and television stuff for james robinson when i was a young man. >> everyone should appreciate how well we trained you. >> yeah, look where i am. one of these days i'll get it right. this book you have written, in fact i did the forward on it and made a quote, and i said this peak could be a game-changer for america. i've rarely read anything that i've sat back and said, wow, these guys get t let me start, you are not exactly what i call the likely pair. evangelical, founder of a christian organization, and a catholic theologian. what in common do you two have. >> we have common concerns and we felt like they were so grave and required such serious attention, prayer full, of course, but serious attention that we needed to be able to find the common ground to

address the common concerns that we have. >> what are some of the common concerns that we need to all think about, whether we are christian or not. >> all you mentioned, but everyone is concerned about the economy but in the last week all the so-called social issues. the concern over the health and human services man date and concern about marriage. of course christians are on the front line concerned about marriage but that's a sigh sigh tal issue. and certainly people of faith. we have a lot of foundational principles we hold in common despite our theological differences. and if we gather around those we share in common we will do more to help the culture than sniping with each other. >> is this about trying to get everyone in the republican party and vote for the gop? >> i was directly quoted in the four star tell gram where the two of us worked together and they said that one of the threeness i actually put a little distance as far as visibility between james rob son and the religious right, and we were active when you and i were southern baptist and had a

sunday schoolteacher who was in the white house, and low and behold we felt like we saw someone in more important principles at that time who was from hollywood, who was ronald reagan and we asked people to pray and focus. about you it looked like the emphasis that the chris than community put out from a conservative biblical perspective made them an appendage ever the republican party. the star tell gram quoted me that i was not comfortable with the church and the christian faith being an appendage of any party. i believe we represent every party and person in the united states, including those in leadership in washington. and jay and i believe we settled on some issues that are of concern to everyone. and one of them, you cannot separate the social and the morale issues from their effect on the economic or the fiscal issues. they are inseparable, part in divisionable. if we are going to get our country back on track with allful our diversity, we have to

come together on solid foundational principles in order to correct the course of our state. i i believe it can happen and must happen and people of faith and those who understands the importance of family and understand freedom are the only ones who can correct our course. >> we only have 30 seconds or so in this segment and then we would come back and talk more. but this is not about trying to make sure the republicans win in the next election? i mean are you being pretty clear it's got to be bigger than that? >> absolutely. of course the twelve election is important and may be crucial. we have huge issues we have to decide but as best it's one step in the right direction. we need fundamental cultural renewal and we need it in the church. part of the problem with the early religious right is wasn't part of an earlier renewal of christians. >> they said the way we are going to change member is not necessarily because of who flies in on air force one. we will talk more with james and jay about the book "indivisible" and theirm, go to knocks --

foxnews.com. >> we are back with james robison and dr. jay richards, authors of a brand new book called "indivisible." i want to talk about the fact historically when they have been great moments in which america has sort of gotten back on track from slipping away, one of the things that you come forthwith is that it's not usually a political movement, its a spiritual movement from brings america back around. tell me what you mean by a spiritual movement awakening and how does that happen? >> look at the history of the western consult -- cultural. the second great awakening is us abandoning slavery and huge social reform in the united states. we think culture and religious and faith are prior to politics. politics is a function of that

but if we just look for political solutions it will at best be superficial. >> should christians only vote for avis tan in office or does it matter about the faith of the individual who is running as it does about the faith of the people of the person who is running. >> we need people to become inform and involved because half of the catholics don't vote, half of the protestants who don't vote and have who vote are voting from an uninformed perspective. we need to get people informed. this is the reason for the book. i want to reference something you said. i think this is the way we get on to be. this election is important but it's more about direction. you said here that in reference to the scripture my people parish for lack of knowledge. you said if people grasp the truths in this book that scripture will know longer apply. we are parishing for lack of knowledge of the truth and it will require people returning to the source of the truth, which is returning to god and the principles. we have to come back to that or we won't have a secure future. >> president obama recently at

the national prayer breakfast even tried to invoke jesus that he wanted a more substantial tax policy. how do you address questions like that three logically? when you have the president of the united states saying jesus wants us to pay more taxes, what's the response to that? >> you are know, you are a trained baptist pastor. look what the text said. the president was unfortunately invoking something that jesus said about god and the call god has upon people and replacing god with the federal government. if there's any kind of mistake we would pray for people not to make is that, don't replays god with the federal government. the christian faith has political and social implications but we have to be careful how we apply it so we don't wed our strong theological quick was bad economics and really bad policy and we have a lot of that happening now. >> we clearly live in a culture people are hostile toward people. faith at least if they take it seriously. that's a different mind-set that existed when i was a kid where schools could have christmas programs.

so have we zoloft the sense of christian heritage that it's toileted to recover? >> no it's not too late to recover. this is the day of the great awakening we need in our day. i think we will see it. you and i have been praying for it for a long time. and i want to say to you that i admire you, and i appreciate you and the stand you take. i think you have been one of the most faithful people to point us in a course of correction that's necessary. i want to thank you. >> i want to tell you, when i first read even i guess the original draft of the book, i was stunned at how much power there is in what you guys have put together. i think you are on track to help america see that there is hope, and i think if there's anything i got from the book, as i read it, it was don't give up. there is hope. and the hope is when i cannot see one of the most fiery evangelicals in the country, james robison, join up with a catholic theologian, i know there's hope. >> you have witnessed the beginning of the awakening. >> there might be hope that

democrats and republicans can get together. i hope people will get the book and read it. >> we will go across the country. we hope you go to indivisiblebook.com. people will be praying with us to see our nation get back on course. it's not too late. later than most people think but it's not too late. >> that's got news for all of us. thank you, james and jay. great to have you here. good luck. >> next weekend, hollywood celebrities are getting awarded at the oscars, movie theaters across america are going to go playing a movie honoring real life action heroes. "act of valor" is a new film starring active navy seals. the film's

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>> the new movie "act of valor" is the first of its kind. inspired by real life missions. it's really a film about fighting terrorism and it stars a group of real active duty navy seals. [heavy breathing]

[creeky door] [gunfire] [foreign language] >> all clear! >> this is chief. target is secure. >> joining me are the directors of "act of valor," mike "mouse" mccoy and. let's talk about what this movie represents as opposed to any other type of movie because you actually used real, honest-to-goodness navy seals as the key actors. scott, where was the genesis of the idea of using real seals instead of actors? >> when we really had a chance to meet the operators and we were in an exploratory phase with them and we wanted to try

to extract real acts of valor with them and we got to know the guys. we were going to cast actors. when you meet them and see what incredible men they are, we thought there's no way to accurately get this unless you found the real guys. we found 8 guys that we thought were incredible men and they all turned us down. >> you weren't really originally thinking about using seals and then it kind of evolved into that? >> you wouldn't naturally think to do that. we were exploring their story and the potential for telling it overall and we connected with the brotherhood of men and saw it existing only in mythology but it was real. we learned of the true acts of valor they had done on the battlefield for one another, it was inspirational and then we saw the depth of sacrifice over ten years of combat and what their families have been going through and their wives and kids. we thought the only way to pay honor to the community was to

have the real guys tell the story. >> it's incredible the navy let them do it because there's a tight seal -- no punt intended -- but a tight seal on their tactics but how were you to get the navy permission and to keep from divulging the secrets they deploy. >> the navy had a scrub on the project for tt -- >> define that. >> we wanted to make sure we weren't giving away anything class fade or giving away the playbook to the bad guys overall and we didn't want to do that. and fortunately they let us have a handle on the story. they let us objectively tell their story as we saw it from the outside overhaul. >> scott, there's a piece of this that is fascinating. in the filming, you used live ammunition. are you kidding me?

>> it hasn't been done. >> who insured this full many? >> we are lucky to have a great relationship with the insurance company. >> absolutely. did they know you were doing it. >> absolutely. something that hasn't been done since the 20s. >> there's a reason for that, scott. >> right. but if we are going to be true to their community, they operate and train with live ammunition. they don't get a real sense of the battle space unless they are training the same way they operate so they use live bullets. he we wanted to be true to that. they rust the us and put us in some great positions to see this. when you see the film, it's nothing like you have ever seen because when you get to see real tracer bullets, the real flame come out of the gun because there's no c. g. in our movie. none. it's the first authentic action movies. it hasn't happened since the '80s and '90s movies. now it's the spectacle going on. we are trying to bring back real

in-come raw action. >> when i saw the screening one thing that gave it a realism that hit me was when you see them in pursuit, and the audio, rather than all of the dramatic music, which it has a score but it's subtle, but there were points the score was erased and all you heard was the heavy breathing of the warrior going into -- he has no idea what. and i'm thinking, my gosh, that's exactly what i would be doing. i wouldn't be calmly walking in knowing i'm going to hope this door and someone is going to start shooting me. i would be breathing my lungs out right now. >> absolutely. what's amazing about the guys and fascinating is how calm they are under pressure. he are absolutely in their center aware of their entire environment. the whole world could be going around them in chaotic waves and they maintain their center, they maintain their communication and they keep it together in the craziest of situations. the breathing is something we want to focus on. >> the film will open february 24th all over the country. it's not like people have to

wait six months to be able to see it. >> nope. >> obviously this could be an important affirmation to the seals and to all members of our military. if the public turned out in mass, if -- first of all, they will love the movie if they are action-oriented people. but what a great way to give affirmation to all of our military than if every theatre in america is packed on that weekend, showing our tribute and support. >> it's an important movie. >> it's about the concept of an act of valor. about doing something heroic for the sake of course your fellow man and it's not just the seals, it's every man and woman in uniform and first responders. first responders on the streets of america every day, going out and risking their lives for people they don't know. we want america to get in touch with their heroes and being thankful for it. >> and they aren't seeking recognition. it's so counter intuitive to our culture. and they say don't look at me, this is my job.

>> where reality television is not actually reality, it's very, very fake and so staged, how refreshing it is to see something that's real reagoty and reality with honor and reality with valor. we hope the film is a tremendous success not only for your sake but for the sake of these incredible warriors for the united states of america, the navy seals. many films are about sex, drugs and rock and roll, the next guest is about life, liberty and rock and rule. the band madison rising is here with their

>> you could call them the all-american band. they are a rock group. they got songs about patriotism, government integrity and personal responsibility.

ladies and gentlemen, please welcome madison rising. i was going to say radisson mising. it's great to have you here. what an unusual deal this is. a rock band that's conservative. >> a little uncommon but like i was telling your audience we want to stand up ask scream about our message and the message of conservatism that's constantly under attack and we've been screaming about media bias for months now and we are looking to are town partner up with us and taking the weight off so thanks for playing with us. >> it is a thrill for me, first of all to play with you guys, great musicians. not only is madison rising, but the sales of your album, it's rising too because a lot of people are saying how refreshing is it to have lyrics to rock songs is that encourage my basic american values. you try to take it down to occupy wall street and what happened? >> well, occupy wall street didn't go very well for us. we actually tried to get in through the back door and it didn't work so we went through

the front door and used the appropriate means to get the appropriate permits and still didn't happen. we ended up going back around and playing occupy congress and slipped in under our radar. they let us play. >> of course they would because they don't understand anything that's going on. [laughter] >> we will do a song in a minute called "where was the media then." tell us about this song and the message of it. >> the message, just like we are talking about media matters and everything now, people going through your trash and like basically going after the correspondence instead of the message, it's just basically trying to vilify the right in general. and that's what, you know, this song basically sort of wraps and encompasses, that idea of how hypocritical one side of the media can be, and we wanted to scream about it once again. let the world know that, you know, there's a different side to wake up to. we wanted to wake the youth up to our side and the proper side of conservatism so we don't have to bring them over later. >> i love it. let's scream about it right now. madison rising with me involved with them. a song called where was the

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♪ >> thank you! >> madison rising. you can get their album on itunes and all the good places where music is sole. also their website. thanks for joining us. >> i hope you have had as much fun as we've had. we've had a blast. see you next time. until then, on behalf of all of us here at the fox news studios in new york, good night and god

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