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the question with a former commander-in-chief take the stand? ♪ >> you think about what we are doing but what i am doing, i'm g indicted for you witness former fixer michael cohen to return for more in-depth. >> he lies and embellishes, stories adjust to make himself look good. shannon: are public and front runners allies show up in his defense. will asked trump attorney will scharf to expect as the case enters week six. house republicans moved to hold attorney general merrick garland and contempt over the special counsel tapes of pickwick something i can do is continue to do the right thing. i will protect this building and its people. rich: will assess our legal panel by the white house is insisting and on keep the audio recording secret. then, the bodies of four hostages recovered as aid arrives and because of the
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president's national security adviser traveled to israel. we'll get exclusive reaction from both sides of the aisle with house republican conference chair elise stefanik massachusetts is democrat jake auchincloss. plus pickwick sent by dave powell. the debates are on after months of speculation over what will they or won't they? president biden donald trump finally agreed to meet side-by-side. will ask our sunday panel what is behind the campaign strategy all right now on "fox news sunday." ♪ >> look from fox news in washington. we begin with a bream brief tomorrow morning criminal trial former president trump will resume in manhattan onetime attorney self-described fixer michael cohen will be back on the stand for more cross-examination by the defense team. the prosecution indicates: is its final witness so who, if anyone will the defense because of the stand?
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what about president trump? he's indicated in the past he would like to defend himself in court under oath doing so will open him up to questions and all kinds of other legal issues beyond the case at hand the judge has directed the legal teams to be ready for closing arguments as soon tuesday. meeting it is possible the case could go to the jury would get a verdict or other conclusion as early as this week. joining us now trump attorney will scharf running for missouri attorney general welcome back but you're not part of the defense team for that your case specifically and got to get to the question everyone is asking about whether the former president will take the stand. andrew mccarthy writes this, as a witness trump would have to address the salacious stormy daniels testimony plus he judges ruled the truck testifies prosecutors main form the jury charge ruled in the civil fraud case had persistent fraud over many years. and a federal jury found them liable for defaming for making false statements. well, is he going to do it?
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would you advise them to? >> look, shannon, it's important to remember in the criminal case the prosecution bears the burden of proving beyond a reasonable doubt each and every element of the charged offenses but here, looking over the trout record over the last several weeks, the prosecutor's have abjectly failed to approve their case. any fair jury reviewing this record would immediately and unanimously vote to acquit. in terms of whether witnesses will be called including president trump, that is something the defense team is going to have to think about after the prosecution rests. but as of now comic to meet the six like a directed verdict or at least an absolute acquittal just based on the prosecution's total failure to prove anything. even approximate crime >> that's in the prosecution rested its case you basically go to the judge and say they have not done it. let's end the case right here in our fave year. we'll see if that happens but as
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we look at potential people to take the stand, robert costello continues to come up he was giving legal advice to michael cohen at one point the attorney-client privilege has been raised he's out giving interviews. he says he gave the bragg team hundreds of texts and e-mails but waited but when he got to the grand jury they only presented a couple of them. here's part of his story. >> i simply said to the grand jurors, you people should demand these documents. you should demand to see everything in chronological order. so you get a real view of what michael cohen was like in those days at that moment in time. and then ask yourself this question, why are they trying to keep these documents from me? c7 he sounds very willing to take the stand in conversations about prepping him and calling him possibly. >> based on his public statements and also his testimony before congress he would absolutely undercut any remaining credibility of michael cohen and therefore key parts of
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the prosecution's case. that having been said, michael cohen i believe is completely collapsed on the stand under withering cross-examination by president trump's trial team. so at this moment i don't think there's any further need to call into question michael cohen's credibility because he has none. shannon: is back on the stamper cross-examination for it will be dialed is i'm sure you will be to attorney will scharf thank you for your time be returned shortly cabal george washington university law professor jonathan turley former principal deputy assistant attorney general tom dupree. gentlemen, welcome back. tom will start with you this character bob castella is a well respected attorney's been out there telling a story that does not line up at the bride version of the story. should they call him? >> castella would have a lot to say he would further undermine cohen's credibility and his testimony but to be honest cohen was absolutely destroyed on the stand last week i'm not sure the trump team needs to do it much
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more to undermine his credibility with the jury. the d8 made a strategic decision they built their case on the very rickety scaffold they would have to have the most famous people in american history using one of the least credible witnesses in american history, michael cohen. i think they paid the consequences for that decision last week during the cross-examination when they cut cohen what appeared to be additional lies trump could call costello in my view i don't think they need too. >> mother jones puts it this way of knowing michael cohen is back on the stand tomorrow morning, also made the case comes down to whether which version: believe the temperamental toting of ventral serial wire trump's attorneys charge and brought orh their park attacks or eight formerly temperamental toting serial wire who professes remorse for his subservience to trump. >> the problem is the new michael company it looked a lot like the old michael cohen in his last cross-examination segment. it is very clear he lied about a key phone call not any phone call but a key phone call he was
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speaking too as to when he told trump this matter is now over. the question is, how this is impacting the jury. as a chicagoan i've said it new yorkers my whole life. they are a curious pizza folding people. [laughter] but the one thing i have noticed new yorkers do not like to get played. they do not like being trump's. the question is, at what point does this reach this jury the biggest legal con in history? and we are the marks. when cohen fell apart on the stand, some point the jury is going to have to look at what is being asked of them? bragg is trying just to get this to a jury. bragg understands michael cohen has no credibility but is trying to argue to the judge that's a question for the jury and then he is helping the jury will not look at the evidence. they will not look beyond who is the defendant. bragg may be wrong that cynicism may cost him.
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shannon: 's got to be a unanimous verdict you got one that doesn't get to the reasonable doubt standard not vision accomplish for the prosecutor for it will have to wait and see if we get a verdict as soon as this week. i want to ask about the issue going back and forth with president biden special counsel robert her the transcripts are out but they are fighting think executive privilege they do not to release the recordings of this. the house there's a couple cavities have pulled the agent in contempt over that. wall street journal editorial board not buying this claim of executive privilege saying the white house clamped over the recordings is not intended to protect executive power it is intended to avoid presidential embarrassment if mr. ciampa tried this would have been denounced far and wide mr. biden deserves the same treatment your take? >> what's wall street journal is exactly right on this. i don't think there is that meritorious claim of executive privilege that he had here. this transcript, this interview biden had was special counsel has been one of the most discussed publicly debated interviews in history.
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i think the american people are entitled to actually hear the back-and-forth it's one thing to read a cold transcript it's quite another to hear the questions in real time. here whether biden did in fact despite memory issues. did he really failed to recall key events in his life? i think the american people are entitled to judge for themselves based on more than just a transcript they deserve the audio. i hope garland reed thanks this and allows this to come to the public sphere. shannon: to share my thought we don't get this audit was certainly not the election for the may be legal fights that get you there. >> it's up to supporting but garland's role here. this is a cynical move. he knows there is no credible argument to be made for privilege and somehow this is the president who shall not be heard. even though you release the transcript it's ridiculous on its face but garland also knows any litigation of this question will go beyond the election. it is exactly what garland said he wouldn't do. this is a politics raw and simple. shannon: i want to get quick reaction from you guys that your
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times is a 3-year-old picture from the alito's home showing a flag being flown upside down in january of 2021. i spoke with justice alito this week and got the backs or there's clearly heated back-and-forth with a neighbor who he said called mrs. a lead of the seat worksheet hung the flight upside down he had nothing to do with it was there fofor short time. senator dick durbin chairs the senate judiciary committee said justice should recuse himself and be it from cases related to the 2020 election generally six insurrection including the question of the former presidents immunity u.s. v donald trump there are others going further saying he should just resign from the court. >> all that is ridiculous absolutely ridiculous. your reporting was excellent and then you did show there is a real back story here. this is an issue with neighbors who are apparently being vulgar, aggressive, that's what drove all of this this was not a political statement fight justice by any stretch of the imagination i think it's something that happened years ago i know people like senator durbin and others are making in my view absolutely ridiculous
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demands about him resigning from the supreme court over this incident that happened several years ago. it was very different from the way they're trying to per trip. >> i don't remember durbin coming out with ruth bader ginsburg when she had cap trump and said you should recuse yourself from trauma cases. the only way you get there she make all presumptions against the sitting justice but he say he is lying. the facts are not as he stated br.that is not a standard. that is relate once again an impulse a political move. it will please many but it's tearing down a quartz that plays a very key historical role in this country very quick span five for big opinions the next room come thursday per gentleman a privilege to have you thank you. shannon: up next to the house rebukes the president passing bipartisan legislation that would force the white house to provide weapons to israel. the president said he will not sound you have voices from both sisides of the outhouse gop conference chair trench is currently in israel messages is democrat jake auchincloss. they join us next.
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♪ ♪. shannon: israel forces have the body of another hostage has been recovered from gaza. that's in addition to the bodies of three hostages israel confirmed and found on friday charged more than 100 hostages are still unaccounted for israel's worth hamas continues israel still indicating it will send more forces into. using u.s. built. taking supplies from incoming ships and into gaza. house conference chair trench it was in israel today she spoke to the israel knesset this morning dates after they reversed the pause uncertain u.s. weapons to israel. in a moment will bring in the
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congresswoman is a massachusetts massachusetts democrat jake auchincloss first turned to fox news fox correspondent trey yingst in tel aviv. >> good morning for the search for hostages continues as israel ramps up there air and ground campaign against gaza. on their hands and knees palestinian rescue workers did through the wreckage of the building a northern gossiper they are looking for survivors in the aftermath of an israeli airstrike. but the simple tools and capabilities our team is trying to get this woman out from under the rubble. the rescuer said we hope she will be alive. those who survived the bombing are brought to a nearby hospital that is flooded with injured patients. the triage area overflowing into the adjoining streets. northern gaza is once again at the heart of the war. more than 225 days into the conflict israeli soldiers are
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conducting new clearing operations in the area going after hamas cells that have regrouped in recent weeks. further south of palestinian civilians carrying boxes of aid along the mediterranean sea after weeks of construction floating american. is now providing much needed humanitarian supplies to the gazan people who have mixed feelings about the u.s. support. we do not need aid one man said we need a cease-fire. such a cease-fire is unlikely to happen and t in the days ahead e israeli army pushes deeper into gaza' southernmost city of rafah israel announced it had recovered the bodies of work hfourpassengers killed by hamas. there are 128 abductees still being held in gaza we are admiral says. >> overnight thousands gathered here in tel aviv to call for the release of the remaining israeli hostages. shannon: trey yingst reporting
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from israel thank you very much. joining us now from jerusalem house republican conference chair congresswoman elise stefanik. welcome back to fox news send a request is great to be with you from the eternal capitol of israel, jerusalem. shannon: you are not allowed national security adviser jake sullivan is also there. we'll be meeting with israeli leaders as you have been. jon kirby said this week we recognize israel's right and responsibility to go after hamas that includes into rafah he added this. >> how they do that matters that is part of the conversations we also want to have going after the terrorist capability in rafah in a way that is targeted, precise and quite frankly effective. shannon: appropriate allies have those conversations at a time when amnesty international says u.s. weapons are being used in violation of international laws and u.s. laws. what about those conversations between the u.s. and israel? >> furs of all the biden
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administration has equivocate on their support of israel. one of the main focuses of my speeches the american people stand strong with israel as to house republicans. we passed just this week on the house fo floor a condemnation of joe biden withholding precision guided munitions the house overwhelmingly passed and support in the israel aid package. you've had a equivocation after equivocation from democrats led by joe biden or whether it's chuck schumer calling for a new leader replacing prime minister netanyahu that is not the place, this of the type of leadership we need to be seen from the highest levels of the united states of america that is one of the foc focuses i had today in y speech at the knesset they stand strongly with israel the time of the need let's take a step back october 7 was the bloodiest day for the jewish people since the holocaust. we want to make sure israel has all the resources know equivocation when it comes to eradicating hamas. shannon: what about the issue of
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palestinians in the gazan territory? tens of thousands of people injured and killed. is that not part of the calculation as well? >> first of all hamas uses civilian as civilian shields they are using civilians to try to protect them from israel targeting hamas leadership. israel has great respect when it comes to human rights that is how they have conducted all of their operations. that is why the united states stand strongly with israel and that is why we need to be a voice of truth there's anti-semitic propaganda being shared around the world and being shared by perpetrators support this terrorism. shannon: i want to talk but the bill you reference a passive bipartisan support i believe is 16 and democrats who joined you all in a bill that would force a that's been congressionally approved and weaponry to move forward. critics say this that called on they called onprecedent attack e administration legal obligation for arms transfers and lined inh u.s. and international law. the white house had the bill
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could raise concerns about infringement on the president's authority under article two of the constitution including his duties as commander-in-chief and chief executive and has the power to conduct foreign relations. would you feel the same way it is a democratic controlled house and the senate sang president biden or excuse me president trump for example in a place like ukraine he needs to send it munitions he may not feel it lines up with his foreign policy goals. >> the first of all the bill he signed into law that congress passed overwhelmingly key is not abiding by that bill. the fact he signed it into law that we pass that's congress and tent it was an overwhelming vote of support. the fact he is withholding these very important defense resources to israel at the time, june with this is about? this is joe biden's of beleaguered and failing polls in states like michigan there is desperation politically. shame on joe biden it is a betrayal of the importance of the u.s./israel alliance that is the most precious in the region.
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it is about congressional intent it is the law he signed as commander-in-chief that now he is withholding those munitions but it is unacceptable but we condemn it continued to stand up when it comes to standing strong with israel. >> what about the concept we have a recognize generally since the late 1940s politics partisan politics stops at the water's edge we do not have people of a minority party overseas and criticizing a sitting president. is that out the door now? >> first of all i was invited to talk about my work when it comes to combating anti-semitism my strong record when it comes to u.s./israel support. the world needs to know and israel needs to know the house republican majority stand strongly with israel for this equivocation, week failed leadership we are seeing from joe biden is now or the american people are free that's not where the niceties congress and is not reflective of the legislation we passed that joe biden signed into law. it is important for the world to hear of the world is looking for moral leadership.
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it is important house republicans step up to fill that void which we have under speaker johnson's leadership. shannon: i want to talk about the vp's takes you her name is thrown out as the shortlist this trip might be part of an audition "new york times" in a lengthy piece they talk about your transformation from someone who is not supportive of president trump to somebody who is a full throated lay supportive of him use the said you called him a whack job at one point and they add this in august 2015 she told new york radio station he was insulting to women and his candidacy would hurt the party's efforts to attract the motors. according to her former friends they continue, she thought mr. trump was too awful and ridiculous to be taken seriously. her revision addition shocks those who have known of the longest and he remember the disdain she expressed for mr. trump back then. the question is when and more portly why did you change your mind about president trump? >> will shannon it is a disgrace you would quote the "new york times" was a nameless faceless
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pickwick for quoting your friends. >> shannon, they are not coding my friends. those names are not included because they are false smears. i was attacked. >> note shannon. shannon no, no. let me be correct. shannon: people can read it for themselves because this is a false smears limiting effect in 2016 i was attacked as the only elect republican from the northeast he voted for president trump. democrats spent hundreds of thousands of dollars attacking me for that fact. so just add did not support a mistress false. i have been proud to be one of the strongest supporters going back to what he ran for 2016 which is when it was my first reelection to the house. i have strongly supported him. he is going to be the next president of the united states the american people know that in my constituents know that and i'm proud to be one of his strongest allies in congress. shannon: district new york 21 and america first this is an opportunity for us to stop the failures of joe biden and elect a president who led the economy
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strong national security. my record speaks for itself shannon. my record speaks for itself a. >> let me ask you the coach you on a room radio station, insulting to women to send a misquote is able to do not say that? >> i said the statement the democrats leaked out in 2016 that was insulting. however, shanna, stood by and supported him a i strongly suppt him. he has done so much to promote women and senior positions as well as promote women's economic opportunity that we experience under the four years of his administration. so i've been proud to support him. it is a disgrace you take a "new york times" article and read negative quotes when the reality was i was the only republican elected woman from the northeast who voted for him and 2016 he was strongly supported him. and i'm proud to be one of the strongest allies today. shannon: we know where you are today folks can go read that article for themselves there are plenty of names, people who went on the record. we will leave it there clearly you are supportive of him now we
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will attract and follow it where you are. >> as i was supportive of him then. in 2016 as you know. i hope you'll tell the viewers that as well print which i voted for him in 2016 was attacked for doing so. shannon: congress and we appreciate your time, safe travels. >> thanks. shannon: doing a sound democratic congressman jake auchincloss of massachusetts will combat, good to see you. >> good morning. shannon: i want to talk a lot about the congre congr congresss airbases of her trip there she said listen, the president is not thanks anything's included in a bill he passed you sign it you wrote this in a statement that was on x a few weeks ago it's regrettable the biden administration recent withholding of certain munitions has trade the perception of divergence between the u.s. and its closest ally in the middle east. days ago you voted against the bill the congresswoman reference there. if you feel this way are worried about the perception these are things congress is already approved why did you vote no?
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>> it is a perception not the reality. the reality is the administration has approved more than one her weapons transfers to israel and joe biden is ironclad in his support of the u.s./israel relationship. if i were a member of the knesset and meeting with her i would be asking myself how long? how long until you equivocate? what's your number two years ago when russia invaded ukraine, she was a hawk for democracy and then donald trump decided to fan boy over vladimir putin think in her support crumbled she voted against aid for ukraine just a month ago. she will do the same thing for all of our allies of president trump so it dictates. we just saw her tie herself into knots and tried to defend her flip-flop and she will do the same for any any other ally this is in contrast to president biden. shannon: she's not here to it answer on the issue and i know there are number of reasons that
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members voted against those particular aid packages. let's stick to israel for just a minute she said it is confusing to israel t there mixed message. the president said there are certain things he will not send so yes transfers are continuing, fair to say he is publicly indicated exact going to send everything that you guys approved in the bill he signed to send. >> the presence committed to sending every dollar of the supplemental aid progress at every weapon. >> what he is saying is i need a plan. shannon i have fought and these words overseas i have seen when you have military operations divorcement political endgame you can win every fire fights but you can lose the war i want israel to win this war i want israel to defeat hamas sodas the israeli war cabinet there are three voting members of the israeli war cabinet two out of the three agree with president biden not with prime minister netanyahu they want to see a governance alternative and north, central, southern gaza that extinguishes the political
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capitol upon which hamas relies. shannon: h on as you cook at boh you and congresswoman elise stefanik are alums. you are concerned with the anti-semitic demonstrations you visited campus you said there are things you believe are in violation of federal law hears anti-defamation league giving harvard an f on how they are handling all this given your think they are in violation of federal law should they lose federal funding? >> it needs to be on the table. harvard and other universities have unfortunately become ransacked by anti-semitism i've seen in my conversations with israeli and jewish students. i have seen the fact pattern they need to look at their culture from first principles and create a culture of open discourse of free speech of mutual respect people can pursue truth and everybody regardless of the nation of origin, sex, race can have a suitable learning environment but right now harvard is failing.
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that's why after the adl reported failing grades i sent letters asking for an action plan biden by may 17 they returned the over and some they get their house in order. >> mentioned my late father it would be very proud of her thankful for that. much as given to the hot spot general brown is the head of the joint chiefs is the chairman navy trainers into ukraine. they said no and that so far. that's a late night and thursday as part of nato u.s. would be obligated under the alliance treaty to aid in the defense of any attack on the trainers. potentially dragging america into the war. because you served in uniform how worried are you about that possibility?
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>> that possibility has to be a contingency plan for and the details matter where the trainers deployed is it western or eastern ukraine? are they civilians, military are they in uniform or not question what is the role of the embedded with the combat units are they behind the front lines? those details really matter and determine the risk matrix care what is really clear and apparent though is that right now the american united states needs to authorize ukraine to use the long range weapons we are providing them to strike energy, industrial troop staging states and the russian heartland itself. right now ukraine is not able to punch back from the hits rushes giving it. we need to unleash ukraine to fully bring this war to vladimir putin. shannon: do you feel the same about fully unleashing israel? >> israel has the entire scope of the latitude 82 wages were it has the munitions it is under the law of armed conflict. within the bounds to eradicate hamas as is the goal but you cannot defeat hamas a purely
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with the military operations you need to defeat hamas with a governance alternative that is going to require work air, european and american to support policy and governance. shannon: very difficult work congressman you know that as we all do but thank you again for your service and meeting with us today no easy solutions thank you sir. uup next, georgia, the presidens there welcoming for commencement estimates is peach state campaign swing to shore up support among black voters will pull it on that the two rivals from the agreed to meet on the debate stage will bring or send a panel to analyze who is getting the better end of that deal? ng these two every thursday. help fuel today with boost high protein, complete nutrition you need... ...without the stuff you don't. so, here's to now. boost. why would i use kayak to compare hundreds of travel sites at once? i like to do things myself. i can't trust anything else to do the job right.
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shannon: it back with a fox tv tobe is reporting a helicopter carrying iranian president trent they had a rough landing conflicting reports of that's unclear if there any injuries but rescue crews are reportedly on their way to the site. apparently having some difficulty because of weather. the info coming in is very preliminary will keep you updated here and on the fox news channel. president biden will to live or the commencement speech at morehouse college this morning ally look at the campus in atlanta into the president there on stage ahead of his remarks the invitation from the hbc you did not come without backlash some faculty and students did write a letter to the college leadership asking them to resend the information -- make the invitation of a president by the support of israel among other
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things more and this is go to lucas tomlinson of the white house. hey lucas for. >> president biden just walked out to a polite applause where he will be addressing the graduate soon historically black and all-male school are two demographics the president needs to win reelection in 2024. >> my opponent is not a good loser. [laughter] but he is a loser. [laughter] quits biden speaking at a campaign event in atlanta head of the commencement address where he's trying to reconnect with black voters after recent polls suggest some have left him for donald trump according to swing state voters biden has lost 28% of the black vote in the past four years. former president donald trump is seeing a 15-point a bump in atlanta biden said the polls are not accurate. >> you hear about how we are behind in the polls, so far the polls have not been right at once. now it looked, we are tied or
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slightly ahead are slightly behind took some republicans think it is too late for the president to woo black voters. cooksey proble problems no spacl biden is going to give is going to change the fact he has wrecked to the economy for all americans. >> both of george's democratic senators greeted biden when he arrived. trump won the state in 2016 and itwas represented by two republican senators trump narrowly lost to biden in 2020. trump spent part of the weekend campaigning in minnesota. no longer a safe a blue state according to democratic congressman former presidential candidate dean phillips. >> conversation with center wast withcenter-right and centerleft voters are telling me regularly they are shifting perspectives encouraging the biting campaign to really wake up to reality. >> president biden former president trump have agreed to a pair of debates the first one is next month on june 27. shannon: art lucas report and live at the white house thank you. we'll talk about that with
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arsenic of usa today white house correspondent francesca chambers. juan williams fox news senior political analyst. former chief of staff to mitch mcconnell cohost of the ruthless podcast josh holmes and mario parker bloomberg managing for economy and government welcome everyone. i just want to put up a list of president biden's outreach this week to her he says he needs to shore up with black voters. radio interviews of black joblackjournalists and outlets, meetings with plaintiffs from brown v board and their families marks an naacp event at the african american history museum said event george's focus on engaging black voters, commencement or washing this morning at morehouse he will head to detroit saturday for naacp freedom dinner. not from the biden/harris team they say no other administration in modern history is delivered for black america in the late joe biden and harris have. we are not and will not parachute into these communities at the last minute expecting the vote. a lot of people say they're running the danger of that being the appearance.
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quick sutures for the president saying the polls are not corrected. if anything what you'd just ran down in terms of his schedule over the past week shows he does believe the polls given there are snapshot in time the fact he has done such extensive research shows they believe the polls at this point just speaking with a black voters you can tell some of these things are true inflation is at the root of it. that's lead to frustration, exasperation and resignation you're seeing them l looking at trump as the alternative and/or sitting out the election. that's a problem for biden a place like atlanta, detroit, milwaukee, philadelphia. shannon: if they don't father's crossover it will put up poll numbers is the issue of two people stay home are they unmotivated? too that point political talks about these events were just outweighed and says this and leans heavily on the civil rights of focus that might not be especially relevant to that young and politically unengaged voters who are dissatisfied with biden flirting with other candidates. juan? what's what you have to understand is you are talking
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principally about young black men. if you really break it down its young black men who have not gone to college they are asking what has biden done me? these are low propensity voters they typically do not pay attention until it's almost election day. the onus is on the biting campaign. they have the money to organize they have a financial advantage over former president trump. they have money to organize they have the message to get out. if you stop and look it's pretty impressive in terms of unemployment being at a record low in the black community. you look at things like biden and the democrats fighting republicans on student debt. get out the vote on holding a police accountable for beutel to in the aftermath of george floyd. is a real strong messages. but you have to be aggressive and deliver the message i think
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that is of biden's been doing this week. closer going to relation of the 14 million.add a blitz on top of what they have been doing this is going to be specifically aimed at reaching voters of color in a battleground states for josh they're sending out congressman jim clyburn was a key to success for president biden back in 2020. cooksey was responsible for them being nominated for the democratic party to begin with. i think the core of all of this on you just add the poll numbers up there is a relatability issue that has emerged with joe biden for anyone who is operating outside of assisted living at this point. where this a black community, the young community generationally it's a massive problem i think he's entirely rate the econo economy is at the of this. his ability, juan was talking about the need to aggressively make this case a kind of agree but i'm not sure joe biden is capable of doing that at this point. he had an old uncle joe were just going to be a caretaker pitch in 2020 people sort of bought. four years of a record now and
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for years of aging we have seen sort of complicate all of that. quick test was cut to be a choice election for joe biden. joe biden is like a meatloaf and vanilla ice cream you like it but i'm not excited by it. [laughter] but look at the alternative it many a plate look at this pickwick says a lot of what they have been saying is that this guy and they both say it this is a threat to democracy if you don't elect me is a lot of finger-pointing but a couple more poles fox news pool support for biden among key groups the top of the list we do have black voters he has lost seven points since he was running and follow 2020 "new york times" and its own polls out a few days ago and said this mr. trump wins more than 20% of black voters a telly that would be the highest level of black support for any republican presidential candidate since the enactment of civil rights act in 1964. francesca how worried is the white house about this do you agree the there look at the pol? >> abide in the same remarks that he was looking at likely
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voters he isn't definitely doing his own deep dive on this polling. he also said georgia is the reason anyone the last election he is very well aware. they had been putting out sarah gets now they've added to that they have the president, the vice president hitting up major battleground states. i was just in georgia a few weeks ago with vice president harris who is now focusing on the economy. launching economic tour that's aimed at the black community. and it shannon i just want to say when you look at those numbers for president biden the "new york times" poll has a much deeper drop-off than the fox news pool more than 20 points for joe biden among black voters and to juan's points are primarily losing them and the noncollege educated category. that is very significant for him if you want so in georgia in this election. shannon: a few seconds now they've agreed to a couple of debates who got the better end of this deal question work both sides are claiming victory thanks president biden bested
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president trump on what they've agreed to so far? okay juan. what about the rest of e.g. think president trump has an edge because he got them to agree? >> president trump has the edge and incumbent president welcoming at debates three months early is a big deal. >> turned about quickly? >> and wants to shift attention away from the trump trial but meanwhile the biting campaign for him to break through the logjam as well and create a moment for president biden early on in this campaign >> and early debate, limited number of debates, friendly media cnn >> bidpickwick spider needs more tn trump i'm going to say that. and what you are brilliant don't go anywhere. i waved a backlash to a commencement speed by a player for the reigning super bowl champs for a point to dig into a controversy when our panel is back. lord, you know what's on our hearts. you know where we struggle. you know where we need to be pushed. help us give it all to you. the good, the bad.
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quests of the past few as i spoke more bold in driveways i mentioned earlier, i have leaned into my vocation as a husband and father. and as a man. >> kansas city chief kicker harrison butker on his faith based views on issues are back to our panel the opinion editor wrote up this way it was man slate couched in biblical texts the most maga christians use the bible by taking the pieces that substantiate racism, sexism and transtransfer be at face value ignoring the bids about being a kind and decent person. it. [laughter] >> were to big we begin with this? look, what a find so fascinating and i think it pertains to the clip you just read is the same people who have such a problem with what harrison butker mainly talking about women in the workplace that same people have a real soft spot for hamas in gaza purchase on campus.
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there are some ideological inconsistency of your word about the plight of women in the world. i have a hard time getting worked up about commencement speeches i will be honest with you. if criteria his head to a degree everything they had to say i'm not sure anyone of us would have ever been able to attend one if you look around the country there's an awful lot of that going on. by the kicker from the kansas city chiefs' form angst among them is anybody's guess. shannon: i would watch the speeches 20 minces is not read on get more contracts if you do that for there is a point where he talks about his wife and her decision to be a homemaker though she is also educated he got very teary-eyed and choked up like a motional and had to stop when his talk about her and the placement crazy with applause this is that audience for the audience was probably mostly receptive not fully receptive to what he had to say. the wife of the chiefs own as as a director the chiefs women organization didn't mention his name instagram but said this, countless highly educated women devote their lives to nurturing and guiding their children.
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someone disagreeing it does not make them hateful it simply means they have different opinion let's celebrate families, motherhood and fathered why do you think this got so much backlash so much tension? either way women nfl jerseys totally sold out last i checked his number one selling jersey at end of all shop.com provokes the white house was asked about this week as well karine jean-pierre paisley saying but he also criticized president joe biden. >> there was there's another subject on the speech on transgender rights and abortion he suggested he's a bad catholic and his comments as well. and so the white house then commented on the said biden is not going to ba back down from s position. the position on abortion rights in particular resonated for you also have to remember even though he gave this speech in kansas this is a state in 2022 voted to reject abortion rights ballot measure this is an issue that has largely favored democrats over the past couple of years that is where a lot of the focus of the white house and thinthe biting campaign is beenn
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this. shannon: i'm not myself catholic but are watching this speech i was stunned, she went after catholic leadership and the bishops and called them out for what he felt was weakness during covicovid and all kinds of other things that did not get any attention. he really went after the church as well provokes he did and i should and i went to benedictine university in chicago as well. i am familiar obviously with the benedictine teachings and values he was taken to task he did to your point take to task the church and priests as well he was taken to tax by the benedictine sisterhood saying this does not espouse the values of the denomination. it's more about unity bringing people together than division. >> i've given commencement address them as i think it should be about the students, it should be about the parents and clearly he was not that. shannon: seemed like the theme is trying to get to students is hard to stand up as a religious person of faith and i am telling you this is the time to do it.
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>> of want to talk in religious terms can you imagine if a muslim had stood up there and said things about a woman like that customer would have been a very different reaction in terms of the support from the conservative community for harrison butker they would've been outraged you notice the nuns are outraged request drill down on the women think because he said congratulation everyone getting your education, your career may be the thing you do but he said i am guessing that many of you was more exciting to you as a mother and being a wife. >> it is possible choices good. my wife, my daughter are college educated graduate school educate give you say to them ideal that your best life is as a mom and a hallmark of in-state weight that is not up to you i will make that decision we don't want you here at the graduation to a group of women who have just worked hard, parents paid for there's going to tell them your happiness is in the home.
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that is insulting. shannon: we will believe that ty are private speech coming up would you give mind for me? [laughter] >> no i want to hear you. shannon: there is pressure on these speeches but i will get with you. [laughter] aa right of any thank you you next sunday for cap next a look at how other commencement speakers are setting graduates off into the world with profound advice. and sometimes a little levity. >> i will give you my three real keys to life, no jokes in this part. okay they are number one, bust your pier number to pay attention number three fall inor love. yay - woo hoo! ensure, with 27 vitamins and minerals, nutrients for immune health. and ensure complete with 30 grams of protein. (♪) >> tech: need to get your windshield fixed? safelite makes it easy. you can schedule in just a few clicks. and we'll come to you with a replacement you can trust. >> vo: schedule free mobile service now
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♪ ♪ shannon: as you know, many college campuses have been in the spotlight for protests and chaos over the last several weeks. in the midst of these challenging time, commencement speakers are taking to stages across the country to inspire, challenge and encourage the next generation. ♪ >> now, you're graduating in challenging times, divided times. but so many things still bring us together as americans; or our
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constitution, our democracy, the rule of law, the new beyonce album. [laughter] >> you faced challenges, particularly the pandemic, but you stayed the course, and you are here more resilient, more focused and more prepared to make the world a better place. >> respect the need to be something that could be very odd, not what is expected. be in allegiance with yourself, draw strength from what you have to off. to offer. >> if you want to walk on the water, ya gotta get out of the boat and take some risks. ms. >> none of us were born with a ed tag on our big toe that says
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leaders. we're taught how to heed and make those around us better than us. >> you've all been educated to be leader, 23408 not followers. don't do what everyone else tells you, don't know what everyone else does. think for yourself and decide what's right and wrong. >> in a a world where ideas are increasingly polarized and dissent often met with hostility, never underestimate the power of your voice to spark change and challenge the status quo. >> i can't imagine how sick you are of hearing about following your passion. [laughter] i say the hell with passion. [laughter] find something you can do, that would be great. [laughter] if you with try something and it doesn't work, that's okay too. shannon: that is so true. just keep finding til you find the right thing. you've got to pay the pills --
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bills. congratses again to all of the class of 2024. a live look again as president biden prepares to deliver the commencement speech at morehouse college in a atlanta this morning. the president of the university there says he will accept some protests, but fit gets out of hand and ruins the day for everyone, he will shut it down. we'll see how that goes. living the bream drops today. i sat down with former australian prime minister scott morrison this week. we talked about his new book. that is out on tuesday. his book with, but the podcast out now fir you like to get your podcasts. he will join us on the show in a couple weeks. that is it for us today. i'm san shannon bream. have a wonderful week. we'll sew you next "fox news sunday." ♪ see you next weekend. ♪ ♪ maria: good sunday

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