all of cohen's negative feelings about donald trump as this continues to suggest. >> john: just adjusted to the jury being that being that the skies so much animus toward the former president that he is willing to say anything to try to put him behind bars so the difference once the jury to question everything that comes out of going's mouth. >> sandra: that other for us. i'm in for neil ad court. >> martha: >> john: thanks for joining us.

pete doocy in washington tomorrow, john. >> john: looking forward to that. >> ♪ ♪ before thanks, you guys from a good afternoon, everybody, i'm mark mcculloch and this is "still -- the story." -- what is likely to be the crescendo of the prosecution's side of this case. is now under cross-examination. cohen is a convicted perjurer, guilty of lying to congress and to the irs. he was stripped of his law license. but cohen is there to convince the jury that trump knew all about the payment to daniels. the former president says even if that were true w. crime. >> mr. trump: there is no crime. everybody is saying there is no crime. has never been anything like this in the history of our country. it's a scam. it's election interference at a level that has never taken place before. >> martha: later this our will -- republican senator j.d. vance 1 of several

republican standing up for the former president in and outside of court but first foxbusiness correspondent wendy who is covering the probably lower manhattan. >> the cross-examination of the prosecution store with this michael cohen has been underway for about 45 minutes now and just when i stepped out of the courtroom, to come speak with you, defense attorney todd blanchett was going in and michael cohen to reveal to the jurors as possible alter your motives in making money out of talking about the former president. blanche was asking about your social media accounts, is tiktok presence canada podcast that he runs from attorney has also displayed photos that show i just waited say -- working call -- offer people the opportunity to buy $32 short for example that displays a photo of the former president in a jumpsuit behind bars. there was another item, martha, that says "convict 4

45," a coffee mug it says, "sent him to the big house, that the white house, oh and cohen of course confirm that all these references were made in the direction of the former president donald trump. but we can expect a lot more cross-examination there is going to be going in to impeach the credibility of michael cohen. assuming mentioned michael cohen as we know has led to congress calculating the miller investigation, he apologized for those lines in 2019 and how pleaded guilty to lying to banks and feeling guilty threw toxic -- tax, all of that is likely to -- a sign that i think is really indicating that the cross -- prosecutors acknowledge a real weakness in the fact that they are hanging the case around michael cohen allowing him to talk about some of these, you know, prior negative things that he's been involved in that really show that you might not be a credible person to believe. try to take the sting out of what is yet to come at this cross-examination move forwards. we do expect it will be the prosecutor's last witness to

be called then we'll have to wait and see whether the defense attorneys have witnessed a call if anybody on behalf of the former president. so that appear like we're moving in to the final stages of this historic trial, martha. >> martha: lydia catholic you very much. was bringing former trump attorney jim trustee is also been a federal prosecutor. and john yoo, former deputy assistant and attorney general now at uc berkeley law professor. think you double of you for being here today. you know, we watched the coverage of this in here attorney on all sides something thanks very differently. sometimes depending where they are coming from the look at this amicus is -- on msnbc earlier today and his -- here's what he said about today's testimony by michael cohen. watch... >> have been daze where defendant trump looked unseemly, certainly did not look relatable conflict and trustworthy. i had today michael cohen and the way they did this morning, this is the day that donald trump look most like a

criminal. i thought it was a very badly for him because his own lawyer who famously went to present very clearly provided the timeline of a proactive plan to allegedly commit a crime. >> martha: jim trustee, what's your take on what he said there? >> i guess lucy is contagious. there is this kind of optimism over at msnbc that michael cohen is going to come off as a boy scout and look, headed along on a false humility during his direct exam but this is a dream cross-examination. anybody who is a litigator would love to have michael cohen understand, failed cooperator, field lawyer. perjurer, bias that is coming out obviously quite strongly. i mean, anything you can ever think of to cross-examine is embodied in this lucy lawyer from new york, michael cohen. it's not a bad day for president content as a big tactical mistake who end with him. to be much better off in that some fluff after him to try

this mikado maker, please -- feeding right in to the defense and the defense has got to be thrilled with that. >> martha: it's interesting that they are ending on him. i guess they run out of people. john yoo, this trust that lydia was just reporting that michael cohen had used the former president to make money, to come up with merchandise, he hates the former president, we are the same kind of back-and-forth with stormy daniels as well as how was i going to sit with the jury, john? >> i agree with jim. i don't think that the prosecution wanted to end with michael cohen. a problem for them if they went too far last week with stormy daniels testimony and they realize if they were going to bring more of the kind of witnesses that they had in mind that it would really trigger a mistrial so they've been -- to try to get out fast while they can. a terrible thing is we are -- their words -- was witness, the person with all the critical of the issues with extra he's been convicted of

lying to both congress and the special counsel, it hard to do, usually only load like to one or the other but he liked both of them come like a neat trick. it has to be one of the most -- worse with the state -- i think if you are trump, he would leave them with this message at the end meghan mckeown -- testimony which is did we crossed the rubicon, did we go after it former president for the first time in history of this republic at 2035 years for this guy? for this kind of witness? for these kinds of charges? the other thing i would say is -- and there's a contact at least -- this judge would have to dismiss this targets is not proven even be -- even before you put on a defense. >> martha: fascinating. you know, i want to actually -- jim q. with her because if they are wrapping up, if he

is the final witness for the prosecution, and really, all has been established is that michael cohen says that he claims that former president trump new that he was going to cover this money, to keep stormy daniels quiet calvin pickard and nda, that's not a legal. they haven't gone that extra step to show that that check was in furtherance of another crime which were still waiting to hear about, and i wonder, you know, if jury -- the jury instructions obviously will be very important here. but look at the other side for a moment. what is -- the defense new? if you were in their shoes, would you say look, that has been proven, we are done? or would you feel that the jury needs a little bit more than that? >> well, you know, couple of things from a number when i think you're totally right. jury instructions and really jury selection, the process we for faking injury will loom large if there is a condition in this case. is the only way you get a

conviction with michael cohen reserve their problems with the two calls. were in terms of the defense case, look, is a dream come true and with cohen. there's no pressure to put on anything collier certainly don't put on your client at this point no matter who is no matter what what type of baggage she had are doesn't have. it's a fools errand. let the court ability fight be all about michael cohen and nobody else. i think at the most what you would do is you would call somebody to describe billing practices as an expert perhaps to say look if i'm a lawyer that works for fox for instance, i will submit a very detailed bill of all the work i did for fox. but when they write me a check or put it in their leisure, they're saying legal services rendered by jim trusty. we don't even get to the mysterious felony intent here if there's nothing wrong with the original bookkeeping. >> -- i guess it would come in to the closing argument the explanation that you both have said that was apparently known to you does not describe a crime and certainly not the next step which is what they needed to

have a felony charge in this goes from a misdemeanor to a felony bressette -- because it was all about an election cover up. john kelly want to take a crack at that? >> i think there is a good point. [ engine roars ] i think one point is that you can only put on witnesses and so on to prove facts and what you just laid out, martha, is i think a serious i think compelling defense in the legal aspect of the case which is these bookkeeping issues which as you said, martha, haven't really been proved out yet as having met the state of mind that you need to prove a conviction. you need to not -- to show that there is an entry hear that should have been somewhere else. the prosecution has to show that donald trump had the mental state to commit a crime, do you that the cover up a greater crime. there is a legal argument as you say, martha, i think there is messed -- really should have been decided by the judge of the trial never went first -- for the first place before it seems --

's and what they should take away. so a lot to come. gentlemen, thank you so much. trustee and john yoo, thank you. >> could see. >> martha: youtube. another strong show of support for former president from from his political allies by his critics don't like this at all. >> what do you make of this spectacle of republicans running to his side? >> defending an affair with a porn star and, you know, it's like the ugliest thing. >> martha: j.d. vance who was there comes up next. [ ♪♪ ] ur best days of the year start here, at kubota orange days. it's the year's biggest selection of kubota tractors, zero-turn mowers and utility vehicles, including the #1 selling compact tractor in the usa. plus, the year's best deals, like 0% apr for 84 months, or up to $3,300 off select compact tractors.

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>> martha: at this minute michael cohen is facing off with former president trump's attorneys were inside those doors. earlier today and appeals court rejected the former president's attempt to overturn his gag order. they said it was necessary under the circumstances. some of his allies doing the talking for him... >> have played a ridiculous and unprecedented gag order on president trump. deal overwriting his constitutional right to defend themselves from political spirits from his harshest critics at the most important time. >> the american people have already acquitted donald trump because the things that they're concerned about, inflation, crime, the border, the economy, all of these things president trump is leading by huge double digits with the joe biden. >> martha: ohio j.d. vance without a trial yesterday in support of the former president. his name is in the mix in some of these lists as a potential vp from exeter, at the beer today. i don't know if you're the tease before we went to the

break but he democratic strategists the, you know, why are there all their -- there defending his affair with a porn star? in the what you are doing. >> not at all, martha. i was there to support your friend from the political obligations of the trial and will certainly get to that. i think this is a very depressing way to spend 5-6 weeks of your life when you know you are innocent and on from now that he is and so recognizing that sometimes it's a little bit lonely to set up there by yourself, i offered to come in and maybe, you know, just be a friendly face in the courtroom and that's all i wanted to do and that's what i think you see so many people coming and showing their support for the president because he actually like what he stands for, i think that this trial is pathetic and they want to show some support to a friend and i think there is a good thing and an admirable thing. certainly what i do up there. >> martha: some of the morning shows digging at you -- now see that way. here's joe scarborough. watch... >> j.d. vance is a united

states marine for god sake, where is all about honor and you just watch them perform a dimly outraged on behalf of the man i guess where they want to be the vise president or close the power or something, it's very sad. >> martha: what would you say to them about that charge? >> look, i think that these guys live in their own bubble where people who disagree with them disagree with them for some nefarious reason and not because he actually think that just scarborough and his whole host of guests are idiotic. and that's what's really going on here, martha, in that i actually think these cases are bogus. and specifically the case in new york immaculate heard from your progress and was able to your some of that panel, martha, look, we are arguing that he committed a paperwork violation in service of a crime but they can identify the crime that he actually committed and you have cereal perjurer michael cohen sitting up there, he is the prosecution's star witness and of a cereal liar in your start with this you really don't have much of a

case. now aside from that, aside from the actual legitimacy of this case, this gag order, martha, is i think an insult not only to donald trump or even primarily to donald trump. is an insult to the american people. we deserve to have a real presidential election where joe biden and donald trump make their cases to the american people. this judge has imposed what i think is an absurd gag order and put -- on the president --'s that to me is actually outrageous. it's not performative outrage, it's me telling it like i see it. >> martha: you know, what do you think happens if there is a conviction on any of these charges? >> i don't think it really affects things. if you see the polling here you are releasing the evidence that the american people recognize that this trial is ridiculous. you have, you know, it's in southern manhattan where 95 cents macro people voted for joe biden in 2020. you have a prosecutor who actually ran his campaign

funded by george soros on the promise that he would go after donald trump. you have the biden administers an assessment -- officials jumping ship to join the local polynesian team and perhaps the worst example of all, martha, he have the judge presiding over the trial, his daughter had made millions of dollars fundraising for democratic causes. so this is obviously ridiculous and i think the conviction or acquittal either way, the american people see this is a sham and rightfully so. >> martha: with regard to the vp stakes, what is it like when you're altogether? you talk about the fact that you are all on the same list and is that a job that you want? >> well, when i was there yesterday, it was just with senator temporal and normal number of other folks from across the country so we didn't talk about vp percolation at all. in 20, martha, i see the steam media reports and everyone else does and like i said i certainly want the bill -- be helpful to the president however -- whatever form that takes but i've never spoken to donald trump about become his vise

president and if i do you will be one of the first people to know. >> martha: well we look forward to that. senator vance, thank you very much. good to have you here today. >> thanks, marc staal. see you. >> martha: you better michael is our -- and the media's portrayal of new york versus trump. >> people have been reporting that he is asleep, he is not asleep. he is enraged. in fy think he is orange because i think it's right underneath. i saw him during michael cohen's testimony karl gowenlock this...

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>> ♪ ♪ >> the only person should be holding counsel is a scary right here, not me. donald if you can see them. guy needs to be held accountable to make whatever they did to me can understand, and god forbid, then back to office, he can do it to me. >> martha: we just heard michael cohen testified that there is what he does when he can't sleep at night, he goes on to, to build an audience. so trump's defense now is going after karen understand about his prior admiration for the former president and why some -- well argued -- has failed to pinpoint a crime, i see it as a slam slamdunk. >> michael cohen's whole job on the witness stand is to be that narrator. we've already heard every --

a lot of debate over how cohen has done and whether or not this is good or bad for former president trump. how weak, what is your take? >> much in mainstream media seems to be in love with his testimony but now as we were at the cross-examination we have seen terms of attorney go after him on were you involved in leagues -- leads to the ap and cnn? have you attacked trump on social media, of course he has. were you asked if the ltv? new one trump convicted? i think we can all agree that he very much wants trump convicted, he's been on this crusade against his former boss for quite a long time. and obviously the defense is

going to wrap up and portray him as a disbarred, serve time in prison, like the congress, on trustworthy, who is doing this to make money. but what i don't see and i don't think we will see, martha, is michael -- is the defense taking on michael cohen's testimony, the court testimony, about the hush money that he was involved in paying the stormy daniels and two of course stormy daniels and karen mcdougal. and the reason it is backed up by a very thick stack of e-mails, tax and corporate signal messages, bank records and one surreptitious audiotape. and i think some jurors may say well if they're not taking that on, maybe i can believe michael cohen on that or they may decide that he is light sometimes and acknowledge like so many times that the fixing is just not believable in anything. >> martha: yeah, but

whenever imagination they went through to get this and a deal done come both sides agreed to it and every lawyer know we talked to says that is not a crime. >> no. -- >> martha: unethical operating not illegal, exactly. >> what they're trying to set up -- >> martha: the other crime. >> falsified records and that's why they went through every invoice and every paystub, was a true garden trump know about it in so far. >> martha: and haven't done the furtherance of another crime but will see if we get there. they are done. we're. in terms of the media coverage of this, little difficult because we don't have a camera and the court room. you all wish that we did for this one. but cnn got kind of creative in order to keep their audience engaged in all of this. let's watch... >> he goes "how long do you think i will be on the market for?" not long. >> what did you understand that to mean?

>> he wasn't thinking about millennia. this was all about the campaign. -- there was a good rendition. is important to do this before i don't know, howie, is that good tv? >> not in my view. it is frustrating that we don't even get audio out of this under new york state law. even a supreme court allows audio. so you got to jazz it up. you're on the air all these ours and you do this dramatic reading. yeah, i think the artistic to their day jobs. >> martha: in terms of whether or not voters care about this -- inflation. is the issue on the minds of voters, not this. will see how much of this is

going to play a part but on the right now is actually held donald trump. >> martha: what do you think you might. >> people are sick of this trial i believe. in new york times poll suggesting 29% of voters in the milligrams states said they were paying a lot of attention to trump's legal problem so it -- universe is obsessed with this case, former president for the first time in all of that, a lot of voters have not really just two in an trump using this as a platform also for political issues every day when he talks to the past before and after the courtroom proceedings. >> martha: how we, thank you very much. always good to see you. thanks. >> thank you so much, martha. >> martha: as the former presidents stands trial democrats hit the panic button over biden's very abysmal poll numbers. >> the more things happened, the more things stay the sa same. democrats are doing the -- the president is doing terrible voters under 30 and with black borders which are

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biden would make "major changes." in the way thanks are run in the country premature democratic shortages james carvel on the president's polls. watched. >> right now it's got to try to move some mark -- numbers here. these calls are stuck in the ditch and it's been that way for a while. accredited financial -- this is a sticky wicket out there that's all i'll tell you. >> martha: very unhappy region cajun. let -- lisa booth joins us hosts of the -- and mark penn former clinton advisor and poster. no ceo of stagg well. great have all of you with u us. mark, that we have you respond to james carvel first and the liberals which i don't think we've heard from you since they came up. with your take -- inflation

energy prices, immigration. the ones that are really bothering the swing voters. >> martha: you know, spoke just moments ago and lisa, listen this, will you take after we play the soundbite, here's what the president just said about the economy. watch... >> president biden: if you look at the report coming out of a michigan survey over 60% over the people in america feel the air personally engages. inflation has gone slightly up, it was 9% when i came in and is now down about 3%. by the way, the pay for the

jobs are outpacing inflation rate of pay. >> martha: so i don't know the number that came in hotter than expected this number, i don't know what number he is referring to there, lisa. >> seventy% of americans one political or economic change as you pointed out in the new york times battleground survey. look, the big problem for joe biden at this point is he's told americans ally in 2020. he promised as normalcy. so a lot of americans are looking on right no and saying where is that normalcy? we've got wards, we've got inflation, we've got an open border, we've got crime, we've got joe biden and his party trying to arrest donald trump. so is that normalcy? and plan --'s but you can look at the recent cnn poll were 55% of americans now view trump's time in office as a success and you've got

70% of americans wanting big big change in donald trump in that change, not joe biden who was the incumbent in office. >> martha: so charlie, your reaction to these poles? they are pretty stunning but one of the things that strikes me when you take out just registered voters and you look at the likely voters in the swing states, it's very tight. it's like 1-2% margins. >> yeah, and the difference i think is the -- ready much the only thing that democrats are sort of hanging some hope on, is that the likely voters are going to cut better for biden than the registered voters. and maybe that is true, maybe it's not but i would argue that especially when times are tough, voters tend to sort of dial in later in the election, and we really haven't had much of the campaign in part because democrats can joe biden has succeeded in keeping donald trump tied up in court all

the time. but i missed -- there was a fascinating clip you displayed about joe biden. of course, i can't -- think anybody can understand a word he says so -- and he needs an interpreter even when he's speaking the microphone, but i think he said that inflation was at 9% when he came in which is an extraordinary lie. >> martha: he keeps saying that. >> he keeps there any said it over and over again and not only are people suffering under monstrous inflation under this person, but he's a life about it again and again and again and claimed that somebody else is to blame for this and when you layer that illusion on top of the real pain people feel, man, that is a toxic mist that winds up hurting you really badly in an election. the second of thing that really makes people angry. >> martha: so stephen hayes smith has an alternative option for democrats who still want to make a switcheroo. watch... >> i think that michelle obama would win right now if

she would run. i think that michelle obama would hand down with the next president of the united states if she would run against trump. >> martha: a lot of people complaining about the current candidate from jim carvel david axelrod and stevens meant. what do you say to them, mark? >> like catalano power and presidential incumbency whether it's the likely voters are what this comes down to after the conve conventions. joe biden is the nominee counter is not changing. he may be behind donald trump right now by is is certainly within striking distance. it's not ten or 15% or what --'s this is still a close race. is a viable candidate and he is not going anywhere. >> martha: lisa can joe biden can easily in the next five months move towards the middle as mark penn has said he needs to do and stop worrying about the french

left. if he does that, he clearly could win. >> where i am right now is cautiously optimistic with some pessimism sprinkled in solely just because, you know, conventional wisdom would apply there is about seven state battleground states, you look at three of those, wisconsin, pennsylvania and michigan, we are talking about a race within the margin of error in those three states. so, you know, cautiously optimistic thanks look good but i worked on campaigns before were the dynamics completely change after labor day. >> martha: we've all seen that. >> saw just a little bit of pessimism, largely optimistic. >> martha: charlie, i'll squeeze and a quickie. trump thinks he may be a real smart able to in virginia, buster homestead, what do you think? >> virginia is -- is a tall order but i do think that it is absolutely in play and glenn young can can prove -- prove that a republican can win in were -- but it's a tall order. i must say though, i also

agree with mark about, you know, joe biden is anomaly and his indifference towards -- that he chose to voters when he lies about inflation in the same indifference he has for democrats as well democrats can break them to get -- only person who can get him off the ticket is joe biden and the entire party does not want him anomaly and he doesn't care. is going to do what's best for him and his family and so he's not going anywhere because that is what is best for him and his family. rest of us be damned. >> martha: lisa, mark, charlie, winnett avenue all of you with us. think you so much. >> great to see you. >> martha: hunter biden tran -- trial ongoing trailers no less than three weeks away, june 3rd, a judge in delaware rejecting defense requests for italy so the president's sun also goes on trial next month in california on charges in failing to pay more than a million dollars in taxes. he has pled not guilty in

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>> ♪ ♪ >> martha: so former president trump back in the courtroom now. his lawyers are cross-examining michael co cohen, that will be getting underway anytime now and it is the final prosecution witness. so that bringing former new york republican congressman lee zeldin who run for governor two years ago and is also an attorney. good to have you here.

i want to get your tax on all of the republicans who are going downtown including the program, j.d. vance we just had on, here's what they had to say when asked him -- is this okay and imprint this version of the vp stakes? here is what j.d. vance said. >> martha: okay. we have a newfound earlier from the show when we spoke to j.d. vance, he said i've never spoken to donald trump about becoming his vice president and if i do will be one of the first -- you will be one of the first people to know. what do you make of this sure republican support a lot of things folks want to be in the cabinet? >> i think j.d. vance would be there in lower manhattan whether it was the day before president trump was picking a vp or the day after he did or if it was a while president trump was in the white house. the people who are down there

are folks who think would be down there regardless of where president trump is in the process of picking a vice president. i served on the first impeachment defense team of president trump, we spent our days inside of the skiff in the capitol and adam schiff' bunker, doing the position of your deposition and to come out of that room we found that the american public were really interested in knowing what had happened inside of that room but we were there for eight, nine, ten ours. i think that they are doing a good service to the contrary to actually be in the room and to come out and to tell people that -- directly what we are witnessing, what observations are because a lot of american -- no americans are allowed to, you know, hear the audio in realtime or to see the video and is good not to have to just take, you know, cnn or msds -- msnbc or other stations word for it based on what their -- nearly complete the perspective. not a thing doing this in a trial once the house

impeachment went over to the senate during the break the senate republicans weren't going out to the cameras, the presidents impeachment defense team, i was one of them, actually mike johnson at the time and elise stefanik in a couple of others we would go to the cameras and we will answer questions. i think it is a good thing for them to be there, to be internet just be inside the courtroom, showing support, more importantly to be able to go out to the cameras and to speak with a voice that completes the picture. >> martha: i think you made a great point and, you know, there being marked obviously for doing some kind of trump loyalty test by showing up at court but there are no cameras in the courtroom and people do deserve to hear from supporters from the other side, clearly. but with regard to the importance of these individuals and trump himself has said that many of them are in donald -- j.d. vance, tim scott are on the short list for vp. what are you willing for it a

choice? because it's all -- not that far away now. what you think he should consider? >> the most important thing is that if that person that is vice president needs to become president that they are capable to serve on the one that moment one, hit the ground running and be of great presence. what's interesting is if we set our expectations ever seeking out perfection, you know, a 100 out of 100, good luck ever finding someone who will fit that bill of taking everything a possible box. was interesting in that the republican bench is actually quite the and instead of looking for absolute perfection of checking every box, you are just one notch below that the new have a dozen names you can consider. the fact is president trump has a lot of great choices. you should pick whoever he believes would be the first -- best person to be his running mate. and most important leader who directly answer your question in that trait of being capable of stepping in to the position and serving as president himself or herself.

>> martha: who do you think he should consider? >> is a tough decision because -- i don't -- my preference in that he picks whoever he wants to pick. as far as vetting goes, you know, they are there other traits that you look for. that has to be good chemistry, hard work, their positions on issues -- you don't want to have a vice president shall not many who is in doing an interview and that person is getting asked for the position or the road or whatever is something that is, you know, the opposite of what president trump believes on this really important issue. you want a partner to help implement your agenda, somebody who can go to congress and speak to congressional senate leadership and rank-and-file help build support. i think he has a lot of choices that check those boxes and ultimately at the end of the day -- >> martha: not going to give me any names? >> know. >> martha: are going to go down to the courthouse? >> the offer is certainly there and anytime i am happy to do it whether it is -- weather its now, when the

president is going through his first impeachment defense or some other day that he needs people out there not just showing support but to mitigating with the american public. >> martha: lee zeldin, thank you. always good to have you here. thanks for coming by. go, next. >> go, next before jason miller had just lost the former president will speak when corp. wraps for the day. it seems that they are getting closer to that. and after that the president will head to a huge fundraiser in new york city with some millionaire donors. some of those tickets more than a hundred thousand a pop and that is next.

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>> ♪ ♪ >> martha: michael cohen back on the stand for his cross-examination. we expect former president trump to walk out anytime now in to the hallway and we will take you there when he puts his campaign had back on, we will smirky will head to a

big fundraiser here in new york city. some of those tickets it hundred $40,000. correspondent alex mcadams has the details of what is ahead for the former president. high, lecture. >> donald trump -- it seems that they will continue to campaign in fundraiser hard in new york and today -- tonight people are spending big money to have dinner with the former president who will be there, billionaires like howard lightning the ceo of a counterfeit general, had shrugged and mr john paul johnson and new york jets owner wayne johnson just to name a few of the ultra- wealthy donors who are horsing tonight. your trump is working hard to raise as much money as possible in the big apple to close at fundraising between him and president joe biden. so how much are people paying tonight? we'll tickets go up as much as $844,000 pay for this demek beneficial telling fox news this is all part of a series of high-level events and also those grassroots fundraising that pull in 35 million for the relation campaign here. biden and democrats, martha, reported to have way more cash on hand coming at

192 million in the back of the start of april according to their campaign-finance reports and trump' legal expense 11 adding up so he is sitting at less than half of that was around 93 million cash on hand. on the court case continues in new york on the stakes and the potential vp back her heading up. we know north dakota governor doug burgum in south carolina senator tim scott will be at that dinner tonight as well. >> martha: interesting, that's a lot of money -- thanks, alexis. so that is "the story" on this tuesday. over the story, logos on, i will see you back here tomorrow hopefully with my voice back. "curole comak starts right now, state unifor that. will see you back here tomorrow. >> ♪ ♪ >> ♪ ♪ >> ♪ ♪ >> sandra: michael cohen under cross, the month from