unless his name is donald trump. because the full power of the federal government the full police power of the federal government the full power of the federal and state local judiciary the full power of the so-called department of justice and the prosecutor of their investigators in the full power of the invisible hand the svengali behind it all, joe biden who knows how to work the levers of power she's been there for 50 years are aimed at destroying one man, donald trump, here's the problem, you have to come to 70 million of us to get there i will see you next time on "life liberty and levin". ♪. trey: good evening and thank you for joining us again i'm trey gowdy it is "sunday night in america". polls can be complicated if a candidate likes the poll here

she will side often. any candidate doesn't like a poll then the only poll that matters is the election. a poll is like a photograph and a life full of videos, just a snapshot but it's all we have between now and november. a new wall street journal poll sent a shiver down the spying of the biden campaign despite losing to donald trump and crucial battleground states of pennsylvania, michigan and north carolina but not everyone believes this poll. >> these polls like the wall street journal in the white house losing all the bodyguard states. >> is not losing it all the battleground states he is coming up and he's even redoing better. once people start to focus and in they see their two choices it is obvious that joe will win the selection. trey: for the slightly more

objective there are other warning signs provided as well. young people and other reliable constituencies simon enthused about biden. but it's worth pointing out that the polling looked good for republicans heading into the november 2022 midterms in the red wave turned into a red mirage, what should we be looking at or for with the election seven months away. let's find out. joining as former white house deputy chief of staff and fox news contributor karl rove. welcome what do you make of the wall street journal poll showing former president trump doing well in the swing states. >> good news for trump, bad news provided, let's put into perspective, here are the states i rank them by the margin for donald trump, the best day was north carolina which he carried last election, that does not advances because it keeps them status quo. arizona up by three, up by five and nevada up by four, these are outside the margin of error,

these numbers you have a greater likelihood of being accurate because the margin is so big in this is good it picks up two states but this is 11 electoral votes and this is six it does not get them to 270. these are the states inside of the margin of error, three pointed michigan, three points in pennsylvania, one point in georgia and dead even in wisconsin. these are close into things about it, in order to win donald trump has to win to of the four states, being as close as they are the race of one or two points apart out from election are essentially even in these states are necessarily out of reach, this one is probably north carolina big enough margin

voted for donald trump last ti time. even there are problems, bottom line trump is looking good today and we can't taken for granted because too many of these states are too close and he has to move beyond simply the three states worries outside of the margin of error. trey: i wanted to something radical, maybe strategize how to do more than barely win how to go from winning by a little to win by a lot, the polling during the primary suggested nikki haley supporters and what are referred to as rinos might not come home to the gop candidate this fall. is that threat still out there and is a real threat? >> is absolutely out there in the real threat. i have a whiteboard for that. think about this. north carolina was march 5, nikki haley got 250,000 votes in north carolina, that is three times donald trump victory margin four years ago. the next day she suspends her

campaign. the 12, georgia votes and she gets 77000, nearly 70000 votes and she said i'm suspending my campaign and ending it and still 78000 people vote for nikki haley in a state that donald trump lost by about 10000 votes. then this week wisconsin estate that trump lost by 20 some odd thousand votes nikki haley got 76000, 77000 votes on tuesday night of this week in the same night we had primaries in new york, connecticut and rhode island in between one out of six and one out of every seven republicans who turned out and voted in the primaries voted for nikki haley was out of the race for most of march in a couple of days of april for almost a month, four weeks. there is a problem in donald trump needs to wake up. he was dismissive, he said some nice things one time impressed

on the issue he said i don't think i need to many of those votes. this is a problem he told the people during the course of the primary if they financially supported nikki haley they were permanently barred from the republican party. people started prettied up t-shirts saying permanently barred he needs to heal the republican party nobody going to generally election with a united party and hope to have an easy run of it. trey: speaking of the general election, no labels is out but robert kennedy junior is in does karl rove think he hurts biden, trump were both. >> i think today it's both but the thing we don't know about how those candidates tend to play over the course of the campaign. you can sorta say the libertarian is going to tend to take votes from the republican in the green party is going to take votes from the democrat. he's a different character. the kennedy name and his views on climate and the environment

make him on the left. his views on vaccines and vaccine denial play some on the right. today the latest poll shows that he's pulled equally from both sides. but we don't know what's going to happen seven months from now. i will say this i don't know where he is good to be in november whether he's going to pull more from a democrat or republican but just think about this, the last two elections have been settled by the third party vote. in 2016 nearly 7% over 6% of the voters voted for a third party candidate. it was slightly less than 2% 2020. in each instance and could go battleground states they had a big impact. in 2016 the green party candidate in wisconsin, michigan pennsylvania gets more votes than hilary clinton lost those states by. in 2020 the libertarian candidate from your state from south carolina she is a lecturer

in psychology at clemson university, joe jurgensen got more votes in arizona, georgia and wisconsin then donald trump lost in those states by. the third party voters are going to have a huge impact on the election and we sorta know what's going to happen with the libertarian voters might know they get traction or we think will happen with the green party candidate or cornell west were they going to take votes from. robert kennedy junior is going to be a point to us, let's find out where that coin falls but we don't know today. trey: karl rove i have to get in touch with your agent. i need you back to talk about the senate. i wanted to talk about the senate but i have to have you back. i'll contact one of your agents you get back on your calendar. in the meantime, thank you for joining us. thank you karl rove.

congress does not fare well and public approval, current members are leaving in droves in their people that will put their lives on hold and raise millions of dollars for an relating scrutiny to iran. one of the more popular members on both sides of the aisle when he served previously. he represented the sea in ohio but fell victim to redistricting. he seeking to reenter what may be a very different congress from the one that he left. let's find out why. congressman you were one of the most liked people on both sides of the aisle which by the way has nothing to do with how one votes. it has to deal with how one treats their colleagues. it seems like a different place. are you sure you want to go back? >> it's great to be on with you and if you. there was a time in congress not that long ago when we were together with difference of opinion and might come from different places politically but we treated each other well and we understood there was something more important than us

about our work and that the country itself. am i ready to go back, you bet i am. i remember what it was like working with people on both sides of the aisle and to form friendships that last beyond congress in my case. i want to go back, i think it's time to come to the aid of our country and we need to remember people in congress need to be reminded that we have to put the country first. congress as you know, both of our concern, it is closely divided. if you remember the bible, mark 325, a house divided against itself will not stand, we have to shore up the house, but the concerns of americans in the american people first, work with both sides, i'm ready to do that. trey: i considered you to be

progressive way before the word even existed. we hear it all the time now but you have this authenticity about your belief structure, do you currently have a political home in terms of your ideology and beliefs? >> it starts with this, we are all americans. some might be liberal, conservative but we have to remember before all of that we were americans and we have to put the interests of the country above ideology, above party, country above party, am i ready to go back, yes, am i ready to share with members of both sides of the aisle the importance of identifying what support to the american people in terms of things like we have to address the debt it's a nightmare and protector basic liberties in

this country. we have to be careful how far america ventures into these wars, these are the kinds of things that we need to be able to talk to each other in order to arrive at a consensus. you cannot do that. i've seen the atmosphere and been visiting a few times there is a lot of tension, people have left congress because of it. i stand for unity and i think there's a way to bring it about and you cannot do it with a democrat versus republican. we are americans first. trey: if you want to go back, god bless you all be watching this race with great interest. thank you for coming on on a sunday night. thank you for being a kind decent guy. >> thank you so much and back at you, if you want information go to senate.com there's a way to pull this country together and i hope to play a part. thank you again. trey: dennis, thank you so much

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trey: welcome back to "sunday night in america". the senate will soon take up impeachment articles on dhs secretary alejandro mayorkas, maybe. the chances of him being convicted are 0. conviction requires two thirds of the jury controlled by democrats with chuck schumer as the fourth person. there is a chance of matter will be dismissed or otherwise

abandoned without any evidence being presented. but if the matter goes to trial what would the evidence be. mayorkas is following the dictates of his boss president joe biden. can he be convicted of malfeasance when is the chief executive, the president who is telling you what to do? joining us has to dish a committee member congress laurel lee from the great state of florida. welcome congresswoman, would you be what it impeachment managers if it went to trial. is mayorkas doing beau biden wants him to do. if so why impeach him and not the puppetmaster? >> alejandro mayorkas bears ultimate responsibility for his willful refusal to follow the law. as secretary of homeland security, he has an obligation to detained and deport people to enter this country unlawfully. what we know, he has abused the parole process to instead allow millions of people into our country, what is really important to understand about

this, it is something that we demonstrated through many hearings and witness testimony that was done knowingly and intentionally. if he subverted the law, directly defined court orders directing him and his policies were unlawful and he came into congress time again and gave testimony to us that was not truthful. he said the congress that the border was secure and operational control of the border and we know all of those things are not accurate. at the end of the day we know he has abused his authority. it's more than a policy and so much more than a policy disagreement. fundamentally is a breach of public trust. america is less safe because of the millions of people he allowed into the country and we took this obligation very seriously and ultimately reached the conclusion that the facts and the evidence were overwhelming and this was the appropriate action to take to hold them accountable.

trey: congresswoman of memory serves me correctly, you were a judge in a former life which means you get better in law school than most of the rest of us. i want you to put your judge had on for a second and think about this. over the past few years there have been efforts or threats to impeach rod rosenstein, donald trump twice, lloyd austin, merrick garland, christopher wray, bill barr, probably others i forgot about. have we entered into this phase of dueling impeachments and if we have, does it cheapen the process when you might need it the most, that's almost ten threats to impeach for the most part since i left congress and we've only had one cabinet member impeached in the history of our country. what do you make of the dueling impeachments? >> you are absolutely right impeachment is something that we

should undertake only in the most important of circumstances. it's a process that should never be politicized. it's one of the most important and solemn things that we can do in congress. that is why house republicans did this process the way that we did with a very methodical, very detailed approach, we did not rush through the conclusion, we had hearing after hearing in the homeland security committee to make sure that this was a lot more than a policy difference that it was more than incompetent or even a dereliction that this rose to the level of somebody subverting the laws and the reason that that is so important because this is an executive branch agency head who has defied the law and defined the two other branches of government so he's basically taking his role and said i'm going to reject the law duly injected by congress in reject orders entered by article three courts. this is something that really

goes beyond as much as we may be frustrated with other people or think the people are doing a good job we worked so hard to make sure that we have the facts, the evidence and the law to support the fact that this should be an impeachment of alejandro mayorkas. trey: we will see whether chuck schumer gives you a trial and we will be watching you in action. you were a lawyer in a former life so you have a chance to show off those skills if chuck schumer allows it to go forward. we will talk to you soon. thank you for joining us congresswoman laurel lee of the great state of florida. >> great to see you. trey: up next campaign to crack down on squatters, when did your home become an involuntary hot hotel. we'll talk to someone trying to stop the nonsens (avo) kate made progress with her mental health... ...but her medication caused unintentional movements in her face, hands, and feet called tardive dyskinesia, or td.

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a squatter is somebody moved into a property and lives there without the owner's consent. it used to be called trespass or burglary but now it's protected by some on the left. how did we get here to the point where you return from vacation to find a stranger making breakfast in your kitchen. in some states the ending would be very unhappy for the squatter but not all states. new york state assemblyman with proposed legislation to crack down on squatters and he joins us now. welcome mr. silliman, thank you for being here. what is squatting and how is it different from trespass or burglary. >> has to do with in new york tendency predates you that we have in new york is virtually anyone can receive tendency because of the aggressive laws that we have passed and pass legislative sessions over the past few years.

so if somebody is on your property. i have one case where someone is justifying their tendency with the receipt for burgers at $25 receipt. somebody wrote her name on a mailbox and when police show up they have to say sorry after good housing court it's acceptable to be it's un-american. trey: it sounds a little bit, going back a long ways to go to law school and sound like adverse possession the adverse possession used to require 20 years, not 20 minutes. i would like to understand the other side of the argument. what is the argument you mentioned laws in recent days that empowered this, what was argument in favor of letting people do that. >> we passed a legislation in 2019 that created the strongest tenant protection in the nation, unfortunately that was a loophole in the law that after 30 days no matter the situation you would have the ability to have tendency rights and those would put you in the courts because of the stays an eviction

that we seen during covid and the rising of the housing cases the courts are packed they have long wait times and their cases are taking two years in in some instance three-year years. it's unbelievable to see what some people are experiencing in a fully landlord or homeowner tries to act and call the police the police can do nothing. trey: you mentioned housing court is not what is called in new york. >> to go to court for housing dispute. it's a simple matter and no longer a police matter and what were looking to do is make a criminal trespassing if you don't have a right from the owner a title a notarized lease when the police show up if you show up with the receipt or say i changed the utility this is my home now, that will not stand under the legislation i propos proposed. trey: and other states we will call the police and there would be an eviction.

there might be a judge involved but more likely a charge of trespass or burglary in an eviction and a new say in new york it's a civil matter but your proposed legislation would allow the police to get back involved, do have the right. >> yes of the most egregious cases which we see in new york very often you see people on tiktok explaining to the migrants coming here exactly what they have to do and say when police get here so they can take advantage of our laws and law abiding citizens and unfortunately user system against us. trey: wow. it's hard to stop me because i forget all before but i cannot imagine being a landlord or homeowner and having to wait to have someone evicted from your property but best of luck with your proposed legislation. we will have you back on to get an update. thank you for joining us on a sunday night. >> we will fight hard in new

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trey: welcome back to "sunday night in america", israel initiated a strike in syria that killed two iranian generals and five military advisors. in gaza it was a very different story seven humanitarian aid workers were killed by an israeli strike gone tragically wrong. israel faces backlash from adversaries and allies alike, relations with the biden administration were chilling before the civilian casualties. protesters and iran chanted death to israel and america which is not unusual iran has been at odds with u.s. and israel for decades, when, where and how will iran respond, terrorists killed u.s. soldiers during the withdraw from afghanistan and the u.s. responded with the strike on vehicle for a suspected terrorist except they weren't terrorist, they were children, there is a difference between accidentally killing aid workers

in targeting innocent women and children in a premeditated murderous attack, israel apologized and punishes those responsible while other countries lionize the killers and promise they will be rewarded in the afterlife. joining us to discuss what happens next is former national security advisor robert o'brien, welcome mr. ambassador the loss of it is that life is tragic and every step should be taken to avoid innocent civilian casualties but some people blaming israel for killing civilians are a little quieter when it comes thomas putting rockets inside of schools and hospitals. >> you're absolutely right the deaths of the aid workers is tragic but it's on hamas, hamas is a terrorist organization that went into israel october 7 killed women and children bring people to death, slaughtered kids in front of their parents and parents in front of the

children, this is a terrible thing and it's a must separate the palestinians in gaza at risk in hamas that is using them as human shields and aid workers as human shields, tragic situation but israel like america does not target aid workers unlikab hamay targeted civilians on october 7. israel is targeting thomas but mistakes happen, it's a terrible tragedy in my heart is broken for the kitchen workers who distributed humanitarian assistance and aid in food to people in gaza but this is on hamas this is not on israel israel did the right thing like we did dated investigation very quickly, they have jagged officers, lawyers and idf and how the people who were responsible accountable and fire them. a tragedy but this is very different than what were seeing with hamas. trey: do you think israel would've cleared the killing of iranian general ahead of time or might not be the right word put

the u.s. on notice that it was going to do so or would relations be so chilling that they would not of done that. >> i don't want to get into that but typically that would be coronation on allies and that's an operation but again things are pretty chilly unfortunately. it's unbelievable the retreating thomas as a terrorist organization worse than isis and al-qaeda were treating them like an ngo or a civil society group or political party holding american hostages, killing americans and retreating israel like her adversary. i don't know what took place or didn't take place but normally you would hope that would happen. in this case you don't know because retreating israel so poorly in iran so well, what is crazy user giving iran billions of dollars every month of electricity payments from iraq and hostage ransoms and sanctions relief turning a blind eye to the oil cells up to

3 quadrillion a day, and regime change for israel for the elected israel benjamin netanyahu our longtime friend were calling for him to be ousted as alice in wonderland time now. trey: you have sat in some of the hottest seats and they sit and more in years to come. iran has threatened to retaliate. do you think they will? when and give us a sense of what that retaliation will look like? >> iran always retaliates, i think i'll probably try to do some for proportional that to be very careful with israel. the benjamin netanyahu is not the biden administration. benjamin netanyahu are not going to pay the billions of dollars to appease them like we have in ultimately left understand that tremendous capability and if they hit an retaliate that kills innocent civilians we've seen israel prepared to protect their people in the mossad has a long

reach as iran knows including inside of iran and the israeli air force is quite capable. i may need to be careful on how they cockily what they're doing with israel with ibm strike in syria by the idea. trey: before i let you go we have less than a minute i asked her friend mike pompeo why, why would our position toward israel change is a domestic politics or is it something else. i will ask you the same question why the pivot from the initial days after hamas attacked where we are now from the biden administration. >> this is not ronald reagan when the palestinian terrorist attack reagan said you can run but you can't hide any set f-14 up and escorted the playing carrying palestinians down to rome and capture the terrorist, that italians let them go eventually. but this is not you can run you

can hide this is we will sit down and have tea in cairo and joe hawk. i don't know why. i hope it's not chasing the hundred thousand votes in michigan and will change the history of the demagogue party. remember harry truman to recognize israel 1948 and the democrats turn on israel is heartbreaking thing for americans. trey: robert o'brien were a lot of hats for the united states of america thank you for your service to our country and thank you for joining us on a sunday night. >> thank you. trey: still ahead an alarming trend of absenteeism proves covid is impacting education. micro on the rise of the toolbelt generation only on "sunday night in

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trey: welcome back to "sunday night in america". were still living with the consequences of covid and for some the disease itself as they struggle with long covid and others medicine and science took the hit for children it was a loss of learning now absentee absenteeism. the percentage of students missing 10% of school year has more than doubled. absences linked to academic performance and high school completion and later attending college and increases teacher workload, disrupts routine and requires repeating the same lesson. why are more kids missing school

is this with or without parental consent does it represent a long-term shift in learning and at what cost. joining us senior fellow and deputy director of education policy studies at the american enterprise institute. what is going on why are kids absent from school? >> there's a lot of reasons. that's what makes this something of a difficult thing to address. what we know, absences have jumped through the roof and we also know that we see this across-the-board. were seeing this not just in disadvantaged but rich districts, poor districts, high achieving districts, low achieving districts unite think the main thing that we see is a change in cultural norms and behaviors that were altered over the pandemic.

trey: in the old days the students used to be punished parents were punished for truancy we had a truancy court when i was a district attorney but it seems like that is not the best way to do it putting parents in jail is probably not going to get the kid to school in time. how do we get students back into the classroom and are you convinced that they learn better in person as opposed to remotely? >> i'll answer the last question first, i'm quite convinced that schools are great places and students do better when they attend school consistently. i think it's very important that we address the absenteeism crisis. as far as is it truancy or excused absences. when we measure chronic absence with a call kinds of absences. if a student is out of school for a long period is bad for the

student whether it's excused or unexcused. the data aren't ideal to pick this up but both absences that are excused and truancy seem to be up in pretty similar proportions but of course both of these can be affected by fundamental cultural expectations before the pandemic if you were not feeling well or if you were feeling an excuse for not going to school we were less likely to put up with that. both at schools but among parents. now it seems like there's a much more permissive structure and we see that reflected in the numbers. trey: it seems like, i'm not a teacher but i was married to what that we lost a year of learning due to covid. can we get that back and is it going to take more than a year or is the covid generation always going to be playing

catch-up? >> there is a lot of catch-up to do. students lost more than a half years of progress in math in less than that in reading. the good news last year we caught up a good bit on that we caught up about a third of that decline. we saw the long way to go the first third is easy, the last mile of academic recovery is what's very different. that's a huge problem. i'm trying to spread the word that chronic absenteeism is the number one problem in the reason being not that learning loss does not matter but getting students to school regularly and a good routine inhabit that make school work is the path that we have to go to to get those students caught up so we don't have a permanently lost generation in on the struggle, time is running out.

trey: on the power of education in particular of doing it in person so stop being absent. thank you for joining us on a sunday night. trey: america needs plumbers, electricians, welders and generations the is answering the call the younger choosing vocational programs over college degrees, good pay advances in technology and disenchantment with higher education are polishing the image of so-called dirty jobs, joining is not to explain the ceo of micro works foundation mr. micro himself. welcome, thank you for being here i have a friend who is a urologist into used to joke his plumber made more money than he did as a human plumber. i'm not sure he was joking i'm not sure he was kidding. you can make a great living with plumbing and welding and hvac

electricity. >> first of all we are all plumbers in one way or another, secondly if you want to book an appointment with urologist you can probably find one who will see you in the next 24 hours. you need a plumber to come out to your house right now you better strap in for three or five day weight. supply and demand for the last 15 years or so every five tradesmen who retire in any given year are replaced by two, that's been really bad not for a long, long time so the skills gap is gotten wider, the number of available jobs right now in the trades is staggering, there close to 10 million general openings right now for jobs that don't require four-year degrees a lot of those are in the trades. in jen's ego the memo they looked around and the evidence demands a verdict, the college education is a divine experience for a lot of people but it's not

the best path for the most people in that's what we've been told with getting rapidity for the last 20 years in the impact of that narrative has led to a lot of unintended consequences and finally the ship is starting to turn around. and gen z got it in the most recent tranche of data is actually pretty stunning if you look at it in context. trey: you put your finger on something and for some jobs doctor, lawyer, psychologist, you need college to get to the next step. for others it may teach political reasoning which you can learn on your own. why do you think that more young people are opting out of colle college. as it disenchantment with the four-year track or the immediate availability of a high-paying job.

>> i think primarily they weren't sold the same bill of goods that the prior generation was. in other words this whole painting with a broad brush did not hit gen z as hard as it hit the millennial's. so they came of age at a time when college was back on his heels and higher ed is in a defensive posture, they have a pr problem because nothing as you know the history of western civilization has become more expensive more quickly than a four year degree not energy, not food, not healthcare, not real estate, nothing. they're looking at the cold calculus of bar with a couple hundred thousand dollars to major in a discipline that does nothing close to guaranteeing a job in their chosen field upon matriculation and they don't

like the odds. meanwhile they look into the kinds of jobs that my foundation has tried to elevate for the last 20 years and they see enormous openings and they're also starting to debunk some of the myths and misperceptions and stigmas and stereotypes that kept people out of the trade we assisted 2000 people many of them are making six figures right now welding and plumbing, hvac, electric and so forth, there's never been more opportunity in the trades then right now. trey: as i say goodbye. i will close with a word of affirmation. my wife of 34 years has never once needed a lawyer she frequently needs employer and hvac guy. if she had to do all over again she might've married someone different. you make a compelling case for going in to plumbing, welding,

electricity, hvac. thank you for doing on a sunday night with us. >> we have a million dollars at micro works.org right now give it away this month. micro works.org were helping train the next generation of skilled laborers. we do it every year. go get some give your wife my regards. trey: micro works foundation. thank you for joining us on a sunday night. we will see you soon. trey: thank you for spending your sunday with us. have a great week ahead. until next week find us online or tri-county podcast. good night from south carolina good night. ♪ hello everyone i am tom along with molly line, tammy bruce and guy benson. welcome to "the big weekend show". the big story tonight is a fox news