i got about 48 -- for five seconds or. any thomas was going through your mind? >> at this point and mike, thanked -- thank you for sticking out for us, bar questioning -- both of them, in the various hearings that we've had and the state department, dod doesn't know what they're doing. one has to take over where the other one drops off and if they don't have a solid plan in place, we're going to continue to have this and if -- it's ridiculous. >> john: there in our hearts break for you and other gold star families in a grateful nation thanks you might think you sent and others for their sacrifice before it was an honor to know both of you. you so much. thank you for joining us, i'm

handloser -- sandra smith. >> john: and i'm this is the story. major stories breaking at this hour, the supreme court has just allowed texas to enforce their own state immigration law. this is a very monumental decision. and this is in place for now before it goes to the next level of appeals. for the state at this point can start arresting, people suspected of crossing the border illegally while this legal battle over the law continuous. is called sb for preparedness talk about it a lot in recent days so we will take you live to the border, will get reaction from about the supreme court decision and what the impacts will look like in texas coming up momentarily. what first, what happens when two top u.s. generals in charge of our deadly exit from afghanistan testify for

the first time before congress as free speaking, private citizens about what really happened as the talent -- taliban swept the country and president biden announced our unilateral pullout. time in many ways to happen just before the anniversary of september 11th market the end of 20 years of fighting in -- iraq and afghanistan. that exits and the way that it was carried out led to the death, the killings, of 13 treasured u.s. service members certainly treasured members of their families as well. afghans can remember this, apparently falling to their death in some cases after clinging to a u.s. military plane. and a family is taken the targeted and killed in an attempt to stop another bombing in kabul.

we also remember watching as american soldiers and marines came to the aid of afghans, frantic to get out of their two-year reading situation. today former joint chief chairman general mark milley and former step -- satcom commander general cannot comment -- testified about the evacuation. >> on 14th, august the noncombatant evacuation decision was made by the department of states and the u.s. military alerted, marshall mobilize and robley deployed faster than military and the world can ever do. is my assessment that that decision came too late. >> if there is fault it lies in the policy decision that placed the joint force in the situation and expose the force overtime to the possibility of these kinds of attacks. i was the overall commander and i and i alone therefore military possibility for what happened at abbey gate. >> martha: retired major

general don bolduc who served ten tours in afghanistan is standing by with his reaction to what he is hearing in that congressional hearing room today. first -- live on capitol hill mark aisha. >> we are hearing some headlines come out of this hearing macpherson for most general mark milley is testifying that afghanistan would not have collapsed, have fallen, had the white house, the administration can just follow the assessment of the pentagon by keeping those u.s. troops on the ground. second this is a big one, after three years, they are still no way to know the actual number of americans in our lives that we left behind because milley says the state department''s original numbers were unclear, they were inaccurate. and both of these generals, milley and mackenzie, are blaming the state department for making the call to

evacuate way too late. >> it's one thing to have the plan is the second thing to do the actual coordination of the plan. >> and there was too little too late. >> he was my judgement that it was far too little, far too late. >> milley that he is here for the 13 u.s. servicemembers who died in a suicide bombing at abbey gate, some of their loved ones are here as well including steve mcewing who was arrested for shouting during president biden' state of the union address earlier this month and he told me he is still facing charges for that incidents and that the administration has not once reached out to him since, congressman michael walt telling me is going to do everything in his power to make sure those charges get dropped. >> martha: aisha thank you for my class ring and retired u.s. army right -- brigadier general don bolduc who served ten tours in afghanistan. he ran for senate in the state of new hampshire two

years ago as a republican general. very good have your cat thank you for joining us today. obviously there is so much heartbreak around the story that all of these families who have lost these young servicemembers, many of whom had never been in combat before they were sent in to protect this area, and the loss is in norma's for them. what are you hearing as someone who is so familiar with these generals, with the situation. what are you hearing your mother saying today? >> the biggest thing i'm hearing is that in this is the newsflash the american people it was a strategic failure before this accident. i don't even want to call it a military withdrawal because that would be giving it some sort of military operation connotation. but it was absolutely -- has been a failure except for the years of 2010-2013 in the beginning of 2014, we lost

this war. and that's what americans need to know. what i'm hearing from the generals is -- and i thank them for, you know, recognizing the servicemembers and the sacrifices that everybody -- because what that is what we need to whether or not taking accountability in responsibility for their own actions in this. their pointing figures at the state department. this was a state department, department of defense, national security council failure. it was the biden administration failure. it was a failure over four different administrations. i was involved in afghanistan from 2001-2013. as a matter of fact it was easier to ceo wasn't in gunnison from 2003-2004 and i was in afghanistan from a small period between 2017 -- 2007-2008. i work for all these guys. they made bad decisions at every single level which led to the debacle of a exit that

we see today. leaving millions of people in peril. >> martha: i want to play something on this as president biden speaking with george stephanopoulos on august 19th, 2021, about the issue of keeping troops in place in order to prevent this chaos. watch this. >> -- we should just keep for the 500 troops that's been a stable situation for the last several years, we can do that we can continue to do that. >> president biden: one to me that i can recall. >> martha: is he telling the truth? >> i don't know if he's telling the truth. i know that the magic number of 2500 was also the number given when we redraw from iraq under the obama administration which was the blueprint for this exit and both were disasters as we found out as time went on. i'm not surprised that the 500 may have been the number, that is kind of the number that they go in there look at

top-down counterterrorism operations. but still it's about strategy. it's strategy with no exit no strategic victory and that is a problem and i saw failure of these gentlemen and the rest of the national security council staff and apparatus in america. >> martha: what we know -- and after leaving there but i really wonder thank you for being here and we know that sergeant tyler vargas, andrews tried to alert people that he had spotted terrace in the crowd outside the abigail, he claimed that no one listened to him even after he was wounded in the attack, no one ask him for his after action report and there are just so many tragedies around the situation in our heart breaks for the families who are involved in all of this. think you general bolduc. always great to have your. >> thank you -- you're welcome, god bless you. >> martha: you as well, thank you very much. ricky just moment ago the supreme court will allow texas to enforce their new

immigration law, is what it is called, at least for now. the justice department challenging the measure that lets the state a lot -- arrest people for -- who are suspected of crossing the border illegally. correspondent need for live at the border at eagle pass, texas. >> reporter: this is a game changer. the supreme court ruling within the past hour allows texas to implement sb4 which allows them to possibly support migrants across the border illegally without turning them over to border patrol so essentially how it would work is they would have to see a migrants crossing illegally and then they could just charge that migrants with criminal trespassing. take them to a judge within with give the migrant the option to go back to mexico or go through the court process and be charged with that crime rather than how it works right now where the migrants go to port

controlled to be processed and ultimately very often released in to the country. i was speaking to a source within texas eps who honestly is surprised at this ruling and this is believed to be a strong deterrent. they believe this will make quite a big difference, governor greg abbott on twitter is already calling this a game changer, calling it a positive development so far, but as you have mentioned, this is not the final decision. this still being considered by the u.s. appeals court. but i, three liberal justices dissented as part of that dissent i can give you a quote from justice sotomayor, she said "the state confronts the state immigration law that will transform the balance of power at the border and have life altering consequences for noncitizens in texas. but as we take a live look at our fox drone above the rio grande right now, you already see the texas eps and texas

national guard taking control of shelby park and that has dramatically dropped in the number of illegal crossings that have happened here in recent weeks as more and more migrants are pushing to the west. but this is expected to be a game changer for mack we have seen several crossings today. the first arrest from sb4 should be happening this week and we will be covering it, martha. was on her back to. >> martha: game changer it appears to be and will see what the realities on the ground. nate, thank you very much. tournament on the phone jonathan turley -- law professor constitutional law attorney and a fox news contributor. a lot of questions around this jonathan will let me start with the first one which is -- it's clear that lieutenant governor dan patrick was somewhat surprised that the supreme court went this route and that they will allow them to arrest people in texas, sort of exist -- exerting states rights in this issue. why do you think this came out the way it did for the supreme court? >> well i have no doubt that

they are surprised. this is like winning the impossible hands literally, texas hold 'em. i mean, they are -- really working against the grain, going back to the arizona case, the supreme court has consistently ruled in favor of the federal government occupation of this field as the preempted state laws, that interfere with the federal policies with regard to immigration and border security so this is a very considerable surprise. but the circuit decision was also a surprise. it indicates that these judges and these justices believe there are serious questions here and possible room for states to be operating in this area. we shouldn't to read three much into it, but usually when you deal with a junc junction, the justices will look at the likelihood of prevailing -- and whether

there are legitimate arguments here being raised to support that injunction. they clearly found that this is the question about whether texas should be allowed to continue to operate under this law what is being considered by the fifth circuit. so it is surprising that a heavy betting went against the state on this and i think you see that in the statement of the more liberal justices. they seem quite put out by this decision and they are suggesting that they are going to create quite a disruption. when people talk about it being a game changer cameras is precisely what it is. the federal government has long assumed that the states cannot create a parallel system to an -- of enforcement. >> president biden: trying to do that particularly since the obama administration. they been saying that they should not be helpless in all of this and border states

they have a right to protect the citizen and to secure the border. the supreme court has traditionally not been very -- and it rules with federal authorities so this is a very significant change. -- is something that i doubt anyone in the federal government anticipated. >> martha: but they're doing -- and yes, we have to -- wrapup but based on the law. i mean that is what they have two use before them to make this decision, they're not doing it in fact if i'm -- req me parmar because they say well this is an untenable situation, national security is at risk, we have to step and. quickly if you can, jonathan. >> yeah, texas is fighting very hard to say that this is a system of federalism where states are sovereign powers and we have a right to protect our citizens and enforce our own laws, this is a major victory even if it's a temporary one. >> martha: it is likely to

be other current at least while it's in effect because, you know, if your choice is i can cross the border there and get a plane ticket and a hotel or i can cross the border and get arrested and go straight to jail or go shortly to jail, my guess is that we are going to see far fewer people crossing in the coming days in texas. will see. jonathan, thank you very mu much. also breakers moments ago republican lawmakers pushed to protect excellence in medicine. by stripping the ei initiatives, diversity, equity and inclusion initiatives, has been part of getting accepted into medical school. this dr congressman murphy, and brad was the -- doctor saying, you know, this is not the measure for getting into medical school. journalist michael shellenberger takes this on next. >> you don't want to see somebody just because of their skin color. when you want to be healed, you want to live, we need to

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breaking moments ago a posterior crackdown on diversity efforts at medical schools in this country. teemak house republicans who are also mds backing a bill

to ban federal funding to institutions through the race-based mandates and diversity, equity and inclusion better known as d.e.i. practice, d.e.i. practice is. in moments of michael sean berger who is -- helped expose the twitter files and he what he calls the censorship industrial complex dance at the moment but first the national correspondent chris jenkins reporting live on the story from us in washington. >> reporter: in a press conference just moments ago the lead sponsor of the bill representative greg murphy who was a combat surgeon in iraq -- don't want to be worrying about the analogy of -- i. >> come here today as a surgeon of nearly 35 years. someone who has devoted his entire life both here and -- taking care of patients of a large minority of individuals who do not look like me. prescription pads as couples are now being organized.

>> reporter: he says this bill what kind of medical funding of medical skills or institutions are for students or faculty to adopt certain beliefs, is committed based on with or ethnicity or have d.e.i. offices and take a look at this, a recent survey found 96% of 101 u.s. and canadian medical schools are integrating d.e.i. as a key learning outcome and going to great lengths to incorporate it in their admissions process. know dr stanley goldfarb who was at the pond -- press conference as well as former associate dean and chairman of -- says featured doctors are learning divisive politics advancement of lifesaving care. >> the idea -- behind this -- they want lobbyist and white coats. most of all patients deserve better. they need doctors who will treat their illnesses and cure their diseases not discriminate by race and abdicate for divisive political demands. d.e.i. puts americans lives at risk. >> reporter: it's unclear if the bill get paid partisan support in the house or

cosponsors in the senate. >> martha: thank you for that. with that we bring you michael schulenberg founder of public at sub- stack and helped expose the twitter files and what he calls the censorship industrial complex and it is complex. michael gadhafi with us, think if you bring your. you know, that dr, stanley goldfarb, who wrote a piece for the -- he also that in a statement today d.e.i. is dangerous everywhere. but it is most dangerous in medical school. you know, it is stunning the things that meritocracy is not what is the judgement factor in acceptance at medical schools. what are your thoughts on this move. >> to be with you, martha. first of all i'm so happy to see the legislation introduced and you actually see it really diverse -- not just racially but all so ideologically. the support -- your meritocracy necessary for civilization to function. there's a basic utilitarian need to be able to select

people in different professions and different careers based on their ability and not on the color of their skin. the second part of it, of course, it is a more basic moral point, -- we have to come back to that i think as a country and, you know, even in progressive states like california, my home state, we rejected racial preferences. we'll have to wait -- want to race-based politics where there is a very welcome thing, i do think it's a political issue because i do think when you foresee kind of things we will not getting a lot more democrats on the right side. >> martha: i will just went before a next -- move onto the next topic that if you want to have while integrated doctors in this country will have to start at grade school with catching kids up from corporate learning loss and really rebuilding the foundation of education that's based on meritocracy and my grades, you know, excellence, all of that if we really want to get back to a

place where we have the very best doctors in the world in the very best doctors that we can have. i do want to ask you about this issue from the supreme court in the first amendment, going into social media in discussing whether or not basically the government was heavy-handed in it's treatment, basically are missing the social media companies to the ground and saying you're going to print this and not that. here is just test, ketanji brown jackson on first amendment has print -- hamstring the government. here's what she said. >> your view has the first amendment hamstring and the government insignificant ways in the most important time periods. if the government actually has a duty to take steps to protect the citizens of this country. at -- encouraging or even pressuring platforms to take down harmful information. >> martha: i mean isn't that the point of the first amendment, michael?

that freedom of speech allows us to say whatever we want about our government? >> reporter: >> that's right grandmother first amendment there is supposed to limit government stability to limit or bridge freedom of speech. i think -- our country was founded on the idea not that the government gives us permission to see what whatever we want but say that an inalienable human rights so i was really disturbed by this comments. it's one thing to have politicians tell a newspaper -- another thing to have a mass censorship initiative which they operated that was censoring people like top ab damages at harvard and standard without their knowledge about any debate and on issues rarely ended up being right rob, for example, around school lockdowns and vaccines. >> martha: that is really the most painful part, the divorce of the word suppressed turned out to be right and that we may have had a healthier recovery from all of this if we had allowed the freedom of speech to debate these issues out in the open. michael shellenberger, always get happy with us, thank you

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ready to start seizing his assets. six days from now in a case that had no obvious victims or major losses, no one claimed that they lost any money, not the bank counter were all happy to do business with the trump team. so this is an extraordinary case. you have to remember, and it's so important to this story, that attorney general the teacher james ran on getting trump, watch this, from 2018. >> no one is above the law and -- including this illegitimate president! and so -- i look forward to going in to the office of attorney general every day, suing him, defending your rights and then going. >> home we'll you sue him for us? >> we're going to be a real pain in the [ bleep ]. he will know my name personally. >> martha: okay. the wall street journal's

james friedman and david asman are standing by, first fox news senior correspondent leaders are first eric sean. >> reporter: . that barreled comes due on monday. pay $454 million or as you said donald trump may lose his properties like from power. trump must for over a bond to -- in his ruling state civil fraud trial. you may remember that -- the trump organization overvalued its real estate assets to get better loan terms from banks. trump is no asking appeals court the deposit the judgement for now or accept even more banned or -- of only $100 million. he posted this on to social saying "nobody has ever heard anything like this before, would be forced to mortgage or sell great assets perhaps at fire sale prices and in the -- and if i went i wind up here, it would become." if trump doesn't come up do with the money -- she could freeze his bank accounts and

sees some of those real estate properties in order to satisfy the judgement. her office wrote "there is significant risk that -- defendants will attempt to avoid enforcement of the judgement or make enforcement more difficult after an appeal." not -- the lawyers we talked to -- not and wait for the outcome of trump's appeal. the notion that somehow letitia james is going to make up more morning and say, you know, i'm going to do what the best interest of our body and act reasonably here, i have a better chance of going to happen -- have been. this is not going. >> to happen turns out that insurance companies need cash as collateral and since trump apparently doesn't have it -- and martha, they all said no. >> martha: yeah. to erica thank you very much. that we bring you james friedman was the journal -- and david asman, foxbusiness anchor, good to have you over this. it is so stunning when you

watch that you should james say that she is going to get him, right? this is the goal, it is not all crime occurred to have to figure out who's responsible for it. is exactly the opposite in this case. where you see this going and do you think we're going to start seeing trump towers sold off by letitia james and company. i think you could. i'm really glad you pointed that out because sometimes we look at and unaffected officials limits to its herbal -- but voters in new york have themselves to blame for this disgrace and donald trump is not the only one who is going to pay. business fleas as a result of this kind of outrage. she promised it, she promised that kind of kgb's style justice, we found our defendant now will go see if there's a case against him. she's brought -- foreign 54 million as group -- the -- is a made-up number. is a calculation directly contradicted, reported by the

alleged victims. it's a fraud case where no one was defrauded. so it's an absolute outrage and then the due process part where his rights are being trampled in the sense that he basically has -- makes it almost impossible to appeal given this intuition and yet i don't know where he gets the money. and -- >> james brought up a very interesting point, they made up the number. that is what they're accusing donald trump of doing or making up a number, which every real estate salesman in the world does when overvaluing the property and then the buyer comes down a little and the seller goes up -- that is what happens. the irony are not only the make up the number, letitia james as miranda divided came up with a great piece on sunday, she found out that letitia james is involved in this suit in which a very beautiful property on fifth avenue was overvalued by tens of millions of dollars and she is taking the part of the

people who overvalued it and the guy who lent this -- is run by the irish rhetorical society of the guy who lent them $3 billion thinking that it was worth a lot more now what his money back. letitia james is standing in the way of that. 's motion she's exactly what she claims nonaccount did and yet in her case its worse because there was an actual victim. >> martha: somehow judge and garat basically claims that he came up with this figure through, leaving and letitia james hired an expert who proudly did the interest rates that the trump team got in some of these purchases. and said that the water have been -- would have been higher in the property were correctly valued. so they added up what they say were ill-gotten gains based on a slightly better interest rate. but let's remember that this institutions have their own due diligence teams. when you say "my house is worth x," and you want to

borrow money from the back for the house want to back because they're going to figure out how much money do you make, how much is the house worth, and he goes back -- >> and they were happy with the deal. >> martha: absolutely they were happy with the deal. >> dated stood by trump's numbers collated their own so there was ill-gotten gain gathers zero according to the alleged defense and by the way the other perversion of the law here is, you know, this is intended to protect unsophisticated consumers. these are large financial institutions that saw right through accurately to the best of their ability valued these things that other members trump claimed. so it's an imaginary and really false number that again the alleged victims -- >> martha: what about the financial pain or having to sell all of these -- as he said fire sale prices. so right now commercial real estate is in deep trouble in new york. so you're forcing an entire company that employs a lot of people to basically help

lower the prices of real estate in the city by fire sailing these and norma's properties. i mean -- they're saying, you know, somehow the people were wrong to because he got a better deal on -- what about the people who are wont if this started happening? >> why is new york in trouble right now? is in trouble because we have a terrible crime situation because taxes are way up and because we have these attorney general's and district attorney's who are more interested in the higher profile cases than they are in solving the problems that new yorkers have to deal with everyday. and by the way new york is brooke. new york is really broke because of immigration crisis which is costing $12 billion over the next couple of ye years. and they're not going to get the tax revenue because as james pointed out a lot of businesses are fleeing and you have to be crazy if your business thinking of moving to new york right now when you know that your assets could be seized just because you're not on the right side of the political divide. >> martha: from james'

editorial page insurers may also feel that miss james legal retribution because they fear her retribution if they provide a box and they say they want to 30 companies who seek, you know, can you guys do this for us, yeah, -- but these insurers are like "i don't want to be on the teacher james' nautilus." >> that's right normally they're not going to like real estate of the collateral either way but on top of that we have the issue got this report is looking at it right now. the state went after banks that dealt with the nra because of the politics. so this is not a theoretical problem sadly in a state of new york. is a very real fear that i'm sure would enter the mind -- is a lot in the insurers you've heard of, well-capitalized country -- company is what particularly radioactive and -- >> martha: dug -- supreme court precedents that says if you have obvious bias and then you go after someone in court as an attorney general or an illegal official that

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next dip in here for mona listen to -- michael walton for another hearing reformer chair of the joint chiefs mark milley and former

centcom commander kenneth mckenzie junior testifying on the afghanistan withdrawal. let's watch this. >> -- with the taliban taking over. >> what collapse. >> but i thought it was going to be -- i personally thought would be in the fall, somewhere around thanksgiving. we are talking within months. >> within months of our withdrawal. >> -- we see people being lifted off the roof of an embassy in an embassy of the united states from afghanistan. it's not at all comparable with saigon. i think this nature prove that to be the case, fair enough. joe biden, july 8th, 2021, next one american should understand we're going to try to get it all done before august 31st and your -- and if you're from -- and american's american citizens left, we're gonna stably get -- get them all out. without your understanding of the operational planning at the time? to stay be on august 31st or were you planning to get by august 31st?

>> the plan to get out by august 31st. >> last, but perhaps the most egregious, "we believe about 100 hydromakdone and americans remain in afghanistan with some intended to leave. you both testify today because he just testified general millie that it was impossible to know the num number. in fact, is that accurate? it was very difficult to know the number. >> very difficult and i don't think the numbers were accurate. >> yet the state department's revise that number seems to nearly 1000 americans left behind. look back in july of 2021, ball girl miss closing, we are withdrawing our four-star trip commander general milley, -- actively begging us to at least leave our contractors in some little bit of export council mckenzie you testified that you are so concerned in july of 2021 that you put up

recommendations including lily pads to get our allies out, putting pieces in place to process our siv faster, putting measures in place to get our american citizens o out, to get our allies out and to take care of one american military should do which is protecting all americans. you were so concerned in july of 2021 you put those recommendations forward, that's what you've testified today? >> that's correct. >> and impact also that the. underground mr chairman sent -- 23 diplomat saying that if you continue down this road, alaa sakr will ensue. was that the sense cable shared with either of you? this is a formal channel going to the secretary of state himself, was not shared with you at the chairman of joint chiefs? was not shared with you as a commander -- >> have never seen a. >> i did see at the time and i haven't seen it since. i would like to see that. >> adding the american people would like to see that my chairman, here's my question for you, you know where the secretary of state was on august 13th?

>> i -- >> the day before kabul fell? you know where the secretary of state was? 's fight all your concerns state department wearing -- we were getting all people out according to washington post he was in the hamptons. he was in the hamptons on vacation. secretary of state's blinking. i don't know -- i can even imagine how that makes our gold star families feel. here's the bottom line mr chairman and thank you for your intelligence, are close with this. the state department the use -- to use a military term, had its head up its rear. it wasn't planning. it in fact that we could just have an embassy and the good taliban terrorists will take care of the bad taliban terrorists. i mean, that is essentially what happened. because of that we didn't get our people out within a get our citizens out and we didn't have the force posture, we don't have the facing. we felt and their loved ones are dead because of it.

i apologize to you, michael starr families, your government failed you. there is a difference, gentlemen, and i know that you both noticed, and taking responsibility and accountability. a lot of people have taken responsibility. no one has been held accountable. and they deserve better. you're government failed you and i'll give you an opportunity in my time remaining mr chairman if there is anything you all would like to say publicly on the record -- >> -- the time has expired, with a gentleman, you have a right to respond. >> i would like to take you up on that offer. >> martha: we'll keep a close eye on this hearing on capitol hill. very emotional as we watched mark milley the former chairman of joint chief and general mckenzie testify about the exit from afghanistan. we'll stay with that? in the meantime, four years after the covid shutdowns

that americans school kids are still trying to recover from a newly released documents are boosting the theory that the virus came from the lab and was potentially intentionally developed in the lab with the goal of preventing it from infecting people. that according to the former new york times science editor nicholas wade was deeply researched all of this covering covid's origins for the last three years. he writes in the wall street journal "this clearly strengthens perhaps conclusively their contention that the virus is instead static. richard h. brett right -- says it greatest "to the level of a smoking gun, loaded manic evidence that the virus was manufactured. waypoints of the u.s. government rejected the proposal but says researchers could have gone ahead with funding from china. here's what dr anthony col

cseke a former head of the national attitude of allergy and infectious diseases, told neil cavuto in 2022 about where covid came from. >> it has more and more -- as more and more data came in including now recent papers from highly qualified virologist from many different countries have shown that it is much more likely that it is a natural occurrence. does that mean we know exactly the origin? no. you can keep an open mind and still have an opinion of what the most likely origin is, and a large group of highly qualified, unbiased scientists feel that it is most likely a natural occurrence. >> martha: and those were the people that we are basically instructed to believe. is bringing a spent -- sharon markson from sky news australia author of what really happened in wuhan. scherry is great to have you with us today. thank you very much for joining us. >> very quickly played as if

i may -- -- this is dr robert redfield -- former cdc director so he and fauci were pretty much insured but had very different text. water this. >> there were two hypotheses back in january 2020 that i discuss with others. one natural 11 -- evolution, one elite from the laboratory and i was very -- properly sidelined, threatens and like a report on sort of outed because somehow i believe as a virologist that this virus may have come from the laboratory. the scientific community invokes of the unacceptable answer back in february was that it was a natural events from natural evolution. >> martha: the gave dr redfield a very tough time, and basically shut him up. tell us, you know, in regular folks terms what the scientific revelation is here? what have you learned? >> is a growing body of scientific evidence that shows that the virus was originally -- did originate

in the wuhan institute of virology. it's not just the scientific evidence will we know from intelligence and government sources on the ground in wuhan that among the first facet of animal -- to ever -- were researchers at the wuhan institute of virology, researching on that coronaviruses. and what we now know is that there was a massive cover-up in the united states at the highest level from officials including and surrounding anthony fauci to divert attention away from the lab leak. and in fact robert kadlec who is technically anthony laken riley' -- anthony fauci's volod where he said that him and anthony fauci and francisco and others made a deliberate decision to publicly tell america and the world that this was not likely to be genetically manipulative virus but instead was a natural virus. and so those studies that you

just saw anthony fauci citing were anthony fauci was involved in the e-mails with those neurologists and liberal scientists themselves even after they -- the paper came out claiming that it was a natural virus, they still weren't convinced congress will probably discussing that it had been made in a lab. we now have our correspondence. >> martha: we know that peter -- from eagle health alliance was working on a project which is basically trying to create ways to build these viruses and then try to cure them and, you know, this new data came out shows quite clearly that he was building viruses with that lady who we've covered here as well and that now it looks as if it really points to a leak that came from their work but doctor fauci doesn't everyone -- to --

peter --, sharri. >> the cover-up is much in china as it is in the united states. there are still so many lawsuits do united states agencies including anthony fauci's former agency to try and get documentation to the extent of what he and his agency was funding in wuhan because, you know, the most compelling piece of data that come out is this leads proposal that is called the fuse but it was a grant proposal that the wuhan institute of virology scientists put together in 2018 and it showed the work that they were planning to do with coronavirus. scientists have a nice this closely and they say that it could be a blueprint for how size covid two -- size covid to -- we know very clearly they were doing work and rather don't forget that they have a database at the will -- wuhan institute of virology of 20,000 unpublished viruses that has never been made public.

still under wraps to this d day. >> martha: the scary and a damage that everyone is still suffering. without a school kids in locales and all of how this is handled. sharri can think you for your work in all of this over the years and this later story as well. sharri markson, wait to see you today. thank you. so new video obtained by tmz supposedly shows the prince and princess of wales shopping near windsor castle this weekend. it would be the first video of catherine actually out and walking around, not writing in a car, center of nominal surgery two month ago. but not everyone is convinced emma especially after she admitted the editing of the first photo that the palace released of her since her surgery. earlier today prince william made brief comments about his wife saying she should be by his side as he spoke to people at the event about where he was talking about fighting homelessness.

>> martha: that's bringing neil sean, uk media correspondent, royal reporter who has covered the royal family for more than 20 years. in the, this is all over social media, people bisecting this video saying it is her, it isn't her. what do you say? >> strange video, you have to admit and what's really interesting i think is this, you know, because you has now moved on as the story do, people are saying well if she is able to visit the shop what is he not back at work? and literally about two hours ago if famous -- were actually dishes at the school where george goes has come and said look i see them most days. so this becomes almost like a mystery for scooby doo and the other side of it is on a more serious note is that is 50/50. people believe it is her, people believe it's look-alikes and what i would say to you is this, why haven't the palace confirmed yes is that it's in invasion of privacy how did you do that? on the other side also which

is really interesting is where is the person that sold this video? it looks like it was taken on in 19th nokia phone, not very good, is that? >> it's not very good. i thought when i saw it looks like her, looks like him. you know, i wonder because i've covered this for a long time if maybe this is the palace is like leslie guillot video, let's show that she's out and about how desperate everyone's minds to rest on this, you know, these freaky stories about, you know, oh it's a body double and they're putting out someone else out there that looks like her, it just seemed like to me too easy to debunk that through the photography and that would make them look ten times worse than this edited video, photo ever would, ne neil. >> totally agree. adjusting the bottom line with that is a simple message maybe via zoom put out by the queen -like -- like the queen used to do everything done. now this has racked up to 11. where thinking who is this, who are there? --

>> martha: you think she's doing okay? before i let you go. >> we wish her the best. we -- honestly, i just wish her all the best. she's a lovely lady, i know you love her. really let's just hope it moves on my easter we see her back and really up and running. >> martha: that would be nice. and always good to talk to you. thank you very much for being here today. >> take care. and the debate goes on on social media. so there is a story for tuesday, march 19th at always a story goes on so we will see you back here at 3:00. your world yet started in just a few seconds from now, thou is in degree today, we substantially. so upmarket they on this tuesday in new york city. have a great evening, everybody. i see you back here tomorrow. [ ♪♪ ] [ ♪♪ ] [ ♪♪ ] >> neil: you are looking at the trump towe