york city safer, they follow the law and let the police be the police. they're not going to follow the law. there's no law and order. it's wild. they'll hear it come november. november 5 they'll hear it big time. >> gillian: the head of chicago's biggest transit union says he would welcome help from the national guard. we will of course keep you posted on that. that is "the story" of friday, march 8. "the story" goes on. we'll be back here monday at 3:00 p.m. "your world" starts right now. >> neil: all right. the campaign season ramping up

and taxpayers buckling up as president biden is teeing up more spending. why pete buttigieg says it will keep the economy humming. he's here. so is donald trump's former secretary of state, mike pompeo. remember him? he could be in the running, maybe, for a new title. a bigger title. we're on it, all of it. welcome, everybody. i'm neil cavuto. glad to have you with us. let's go to grady trimble at the white house on these fast moving developments and the president's plans to take advantage of what was a widely received and well-received state of the union address. to you, my friend. >> it was, neil. at a time when many americans are not happy with the president's handling of the economy. he used last night's address to change those perceptions touting billions of dollars of students loan debt cancellation and unveiling plans for more social programs. >> we enacted tax credits of $800 per person per year, reduce healthcare costs for millions of

families. restore that child tax credit. no child should go hungry in this country. >> i want to provide an annual tax credit that will give americans $400 a month the next two years as mortgage rates come down. >> the president and his administration makes the case that policies are good for lower and middle class americans building the economy from the bottom up and the middle out as the president likes to say frequently. but his critic theres the gop says the freebies are expensive. they argue spending on these types of program have caused higher prices and higher interest rates that are making the american dream less attainable. >> he's doubling down. he's pouring gasoline on the fire of inflation. he's going to make the quality of life an standard of living even worse. >> he talks about this tax credit to purchase a home. the reason why mortgage interest rates are the highest they've been in more than two decades is

because of biden's economic policies. >> if you're wondering how president biden plans to pay for these programs, he wants to raise taxes, neil, but he says only the wealthy and corporations will have to pay more. he's going to try to make his pitch to voters with two stops this weekend, campaign events in pennsylvania. that starts in an hour an tomorrow in georgia. >> neil: thanks, grady. mark tepper is with us now. we can always play politics with this stuff, mark when we look at republicans, they're hardly saints when it comes to fiscal seriousness. for them to question on the piling on of debt under this president versus prior presidents does seem hypocritical. having said that, whoever you cast your lot with, their cost ago lot more money. does that concern you? should it concern the markets? >> very, very concerning. look, we are on an unsustainable

fiscal path right now. all we continue to do is stick it to future generations. we're $34 trillion in debt. we're running an additional $1 trillion every 100 days. we have not run a surplus since 2001. both sides are to blame. i will say it's unprecedented to run a 6% of gdp deficit with the unemployment rate under 4%. i have to tell you, one of the things i heard yesterday out of president biden is he said we're the strongest economy in the world. let me put something in perspective. in the fourth quarter, gdp grew by about 330 billion. it cost us 830 billion in debt to pay for it. that is unsustainable. >> neil: the president made an interesting comments when talking and dealing with hecklers on this spending. this was from last night. >> thanks to our bipartisan

infrastructure law, 46,000 new projects have been announced across your communities. by the way, i noticed some of you strongly voted against it are there cheering on that money coming in. [applause] i'm with you. i'm with you. if any of you don't want that money in your district, let me know. >> neil: just let me know. what he was referencing, you don't want it, give it back. it's not his to give back one way or the other. it was an interesting insight in to the thinking in washington that whether you're a republican or democrat, i think it would give you pause. >> yeah, yeah. you know, i was just eating lunch a couple hours ago with my dad. i was talking about why president biden kept provoking and antagonizing the right and kind of poking the bear. you know, i got to tell you, with everything that we've seen from president biden, obviously bidenomics is supposed to be growing from the bottom up and middle out. i mean, all he's done with all

of his policies, he's grown the government from the top down while the middle class is bottoming out. it's been horrific for the middle class. it's been even worse if you're lower income. inflation is the most regressive tax in the world. so these policies are not working. >> neil: i think the white house might make the argument that it is working with the job gains we've seen. we've seen a surge. 275,000. they argue retail sales are looking better and more people are buying. you mentioned in the past, a lot on credit. that might be the case. they argue that if they're doing so bad, you wouldn't see companies hiring the workers that they are. so this is just a messaging issue. what do you think of that? >> well, first of all, the 275,000 jobs, great headline number. but these numbers are malarkey. there's a lot of guess work that goes in to these numbers. they're not --

>> neil: did you say this -- did you say that when these numbers were popping up in the trump administration? they are what they are? >> correct. that is true. what we have seen out of this administration is i think nine out of 12 months last year and two out of the first three months this year, they come out with a really excellent headline number and then the next month when nobody is paying attention anymore, there's a steep downward revision. we saw a downward revision of a negative 167,000. beyond that, neil, if you look at what happened last month, we lost 187,000 full time jobs last month. all of the job gains are coming from part time jobs. so from my standpoint, that is not truly indicative of a booming labor market right now. that's probably part of the reason that you saw the unemployment rate. actually tick up to a two-year high at 3.9%. >> neil: i don't know, mark. i respect you. if we had these exact same

numbers and it was under donald trump, let's say he becomes president again, same numbers, i would hasten to might react differently. maybe not. but i'd rather have jobs increasing than not. that's all i'm saying. final thoughts from you. >> look, as would i. positive numbers are positive numbers. mart this part time gig company where you have to uber, make ends meet, maybe that changed the game. maybe the landscape has changed. when you lose full time jobs at the expense of part time, i don't know. not the best in my opinion. >> neil: we shall see. very good seeing you. mark tepper following this. the markets had their own sort of drill they followed today. confused about whether tech overrun its path. they were down collectively and off of the worst levels of the day. meantime, a lot of attention being led to how the

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>> neil: you're looking live in philadelphia. the president is going to a number of events there since his state of the union, both he and his cabinet stars have been fanning around the country to get the good word out that things are looking better. the president praised last night for a strong state of the union speech. the one that was considered i think feisty was a word i heard a great deal about. anyway, the transportation secretary of the united states is one of those stars out on the hot stage here talking the good talk. pete buttigieg. secretary, good to have you. >> same here. thanks for having me. >> neil: sure. let me ask you a little bit about the president's view. he says the economy is in better shape, but unfortunately it's not in the shape that a lot of people seem to agree. in other words, he's crowing

about an economy they don't see crowing about. what do you make of that? >> well, look, i think a lot of energy out there is going into talking down the economy. the president's job is to point out what is going right in just as importantly. what we're seeking to do for the future to continue lowering costs and growing the economy, the numbers obviously are remarkable. all time record high in terms of job creation under one president. lowest unemployment. certainly the longest it's been below 4% since before i was born. all time record high on the stock market, too. you know, not every american is the median american. just because i can point to statistics saying on average, wages have gone up faster than prices doesn't mean that every single american is seeing that at home. that's part of why you'll continue to see a relentless focus on lowering those everyday costs. the president adamant about the 35 cap on insulin, which he was able to get for seniors. he could get it for the entire country if just a handful of

congressional republicans would cooperate. >> neil: wouldn't he need more help, secretary? would they need more immediate hope for things at the grocery store, cheaper cereal prices? that's where people are feeling the pain, this is welcome news, like you said, on prescription and related drugs but they're hurting every day that they go to the supermarket. >> well, look, inflation is down. eggs are down and so are airline tickets. we know there's more work to do in the fight against inflation. the whole world faced enormous inflation after covid. the u.s. has the lowest rate of inflation of any of the g-7 countries. that has a lot to do with the president's leadership. >> neil: it has more to do with the federal reserve hiking interest rates and bringing that under control? >> yeah, we're not the only country with central banking and monetary policy. a lot of things including by the

way -- i'd say the work we did to unstick simply chains played a role. shipping costs were one of the things that put upward pressure on prices in the late part of 20021 and early 2022. so my point is there's a lot of credit to go around for the many good results that have happened. and yet we know there needs to be more. the president laid out an agenda that is more focused, as he likes to say, an economy that grows from the bottom up and the middle out. he believes strongly that a tax code with the tax rate paid by a billionaire or fight is not right. he called on congress to change that and will continue to take steps that will continue down the path of deficit reduction that he has achieved in his presidency while growing the economy and trying to make every day life just more affordable for people. >> neil: we have more debt than when he assumed office. debt has grown under this president. it's grown under the last one

before him and the one before him. nobody is making progress here. >> well, but again, more meaningful deficit reduction than we've seen in quite a while. you're right. more work to be done. you're never supposed to use the t work, tax in an address. but he pointed out a way to do it that wouldn't touch anybody making less than $400,000 a year, which is something that most americans support. >> neil: that's not brave to talk about going after billionaires and corporations. the issue though gets back to why can't we just control spending, right? >> if congressional republicans cooperate with him. >> neil: there's no cooperation on anything. which brings me to a bigger point here. when you step back and said that things are improving and getting better and you're right, we're well off the highest levels when inflation was 9% and now close to 3%. the fact of the matter is, for a lot of people that buy general groceries and everyday life items, they're still stick. they think the administration is

trying to say you're imagining it. what do you tell them? >> look, anybody that has been in a marriage or relationship knows you never approach somebody by saying that you're wrong to be feeling what you're feeling. americans are having many different economic experiences. their family budgets, personal economic situation. what we're seeing is, each passing month, more encouraging news about inflation coming under control but just importantly, wages going up. for the first time in a long time, it's been true on a sustained basis that anybody that wants a job can get a job. we're working to make sure those are good paying jobs, especially the ones we're creating with infrastructure and manufacturing. we're excited about these six figure jobs, whether you have a college degree or not that we're creating through the work on roads and bridges, the semi conductor manufacturing that the president has worked to bring back. we're by no means saying mission accomplished. we're proud of the progress we made on the president's watch and pushing hard to make more. >> neil: i can go into that

more. secretary, i didn't want to talk you are the transportation secretary. we've had a number of scary incidents. this united airlines flight that skidded off a houston runway. another one that lost a wheel and it was taking off. the alaska air flight with the door that came off. could have been more serious. do you think flying is safe today? a lot of people see these incidents, and they're hearing them more frequently. >> remains the case that flying is the safest way to travel in america. that doesn't mean that we're satisfied with the way things are. it's going to take a lot of work to keep it that way. that's why the faa has conducted a deep dive in practices at boeing. we met with senior officials, pointed out a number of concerns around their quality control and gave them 90 days to put forward a plan on how to get a handle on that and will not permit bowing to increase their production rate until they demonstrate that

to the faa's satisfaction. safety is not a destination. it's a journey. maintaining the remarkable civilizational achievement that flying in a tube through the air is by far the safest way to travel in america. it's not something that could happen if we ever rest, which is why we'll continue to push, whether it's on boeing on on our own work funding the faa properly to move in to the future. not just the secretary of transportation, but as a frequent flyer that gets on an airliner every few days, i see the work that goes into that safety record. i only wish that we could have a comparable safety standard when it comes to roadway safety where we lose more than 100 americans a day. we're seeing those rates move in the right direction but a ton of work to do there. >> neil: you mentioned boeing. the ntsb has been very critical of boeing for the lack of cooperation of the 736 max

probe. are you disappointed in boeing? >> definitely concerned about what we've seen. i've communicated that to the ceo of boeing. the proof is how they respond. they have to demonstrate that they achieved a culture that puts safety first. production is important. pace is important. them being successful as a company is important. none of that matters if you don't have 100%, 1,000 percent assurances around safety. >> neil: secretary, very good seeing you. thanks for taking the time. >> same here. thank you. >> neil: pete buttigieg, the transportation secretary of the united states. we'll have mike pompeo joining us. someone very integral in the last trump administration. some people are saying maybe in another trump administration? after this. non-medicated vicks vapors. easy to apply for the whole family.

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challenge the repeat of the last election. bryan llenas has been toiling away in palm beach florida with the latest on this startling developments. bryan? >> hey, neil. there was a great interview with joe lieberman who refused to tell you anything about those candidates. try as you did. anyway, 800 no labels delegates met virtually today. nearly unanimously voted to move forward with their bipartisan presidential unity ticket. now, they're going to compete in november. that's what they're saying. the party says they're going to begin the process of choosing who will be their president and vice presidential picks. the no labels chair writing this. it was apparent that the citizens believe that this is a just cause and that no labels should provide americans with the additional choice that they so clearly want. it's not just no labels getting out, trying to get in the way of the trump-biden rematch, so is rfk jr. who puched himself to

voters in his own state of the union address last night. >> the nation seems more divided than ever. americans everywhere want to heal that divide. our nation is artificially divided by political forces that can survive only when we the people are at war with each other. people are tired of being manipulated by fear. >> former president trump and president biden will host duelling campaign rallies tomorrow in georgia, a week after they both held duelling stops at the southern border. president biden's campaign says this is all part of a big campaign push in battleground states post his state of the union address. trump's georgia visit comes as the fulton county d.a., fani willis court drama continues and as trump ramps up his attack on biden for age and mental acutie. trump reacting to the state of the union speech telling fox digital that he was angry, mentally disturbed and misrepresenting a lot of the fact concerning almost every subject he discussed.

two big questions facing the trump campaign now, neil, one all about how he's going to afford the legal battles as well as is what is expected to be most expensive general election ever. he posted a 92 million bond while he appeals the $83 million judgment that was awarded to author e. jean carroll. the other question is, who will be his presidential pick, neil. >> neil: thanks, my friend. great reporting as always. bryan llenas in florida toiling away there. we have mike pompeo, the former secretary state, fox news contributor joining us now. always enjoy having him on. as much for his service to the country and he's an italian american. we like to see that continue. secretary, great to see you. let me ask you a little bit about this no labels thing. i know you like to skew politics and all of that. obviously the entrant of a third candidate team, if you will, complicates the picture here. joe lieberman says it's on.

they are going to get on all of the state ballots even if they don't have candidates yet. what do you make of it? >> well, look, in the end, the political party system we've had for a long time has put every president in office for decades. i suspect this won't be any different. one of the reasons i suspect they'll have folks to step forward, it's not likely to be a successful outcome in reshaping how americans think about the political process. sounds like they don't have a candidate yet and i think it's president trump or president biden that is ultimately elected. >> neil: there's more focus now than in 2016 when president trump ran on who he picks to be with him. your name does come up. are you interested in that? >> neil, it's flattering that my

name comes up. i had a chance to serve and didn't completely blow it. some people think it's possible. maybe he can get another swing. i don't often comments on jobs i have not been offered. if i get a chance to serve and think that i can make a difference, i'm almost certainly going to say yes to that opportunity to try to deliver on behalf of the american people. >> neil: you think it would be different in a second trump administration? that is, you know, returning to the oval office, recruiting people. he had sometimes some difficulty with early picks. secretary state, defense secretary. you know that better than i and that he might be scaring off people that would be otherwise be honored to be part of a white house senior staff and cabinet. >> neil, there were folks that didn't want to serve in the last trump administration, too. folks that came in and punched their ticket and went on and left quickly. i'm confident that when president trump is ultimately successful and is back in the

white house in january that he will be able to field an incredibly capable group of people that are patriots working to deliver on the things he promised, on the border, national security, to get the economy backtracking. i'm confident he will find a good group of men and women that will want to serve in that way. >> neil: he demands, we're told, intense loyalty. the one reason why he thinks he had some mistakes that he had in some hires is they were not loyal. what do you make of that? >> goodness. you know, i think every administration wants to have people that are delivering against what they said they would do. so call it what you might. call it loyalty, call it mission focused, that's how i thought about it. it's laser focused every day on whether our cia our state department saying what did the president say we would do? who is the ask and how do we implement that as a practitioner, not giving speeches or pontificating in a

classroom. we had to get it done. i'm confident president trump will be looking for people that will faithfully execute what it is he asked them to do. as a president, you should always want that from everyone. i must say, as secretary state, i wanted my team to do what i was asking them to do. and was enormously frustrated when i found i couldn't get them to do that. >> neil: your take on donald trump has raised some eyebrows particularly in europe with his criticism in nato and those countries that don't pay up. might have been an exaggeration. he offered russian to invade. what do you make of that and whether a trump administration if it were to return would even be loyal to nato? >> neil, i think the best predictor of future performance is past performance. it's not always indicative. it tells you about the ideas that will animate how someone

invests or in the case of a president how they deliver. i look at what we did for those four years. we made a lot of european countries uncomfortable. as a result of that, they did the right thing. what they should have done without being made uncomfortable. secretary general stolenberg would say $400 billion flowed in because of what president trump and our team did. i have every expectation that the fact that it was the javelin missiles that the trump administration provided to ukraine that actually saved kiev in the moment. i'm confident the next trump administration will do the right thing for american and nato will be a central part of that. and i hope the europeans will take up their responsibility and do it well and do it right. president trump will ask for that, too. >> neil: you think he will be as keen on being supportive of ukraine? >> you know, what we always had in mind was make sure we get it right for america.

they got short handed as america first. when we did that well, did the things that mattered to america, it was often the case when we didn't send a lot of american troops to far off places to risk their lives, we often found the american power tool, the capacity to deliver american economic power, the capacity to get trade rules right. that works well. i'm confident the things that we did for ukraine in those four years will continue under a trump administration in the second term as well. >> neil: secretary, good seeing you. thanks very much. >> thank you, neil. >> neil: we always go back and forth. some people are loggerheads in the divisive area. who is the next president? now maybe the focus -- maybe now the focus should be not on maybe who the next president is and who our leaders are and frustration with that, but maybe focus on a higher authority still. lauren green after this.

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>> neil: really looking forward to do this interview with lauren green. we're one of the fox originals. when fox news started in 1996. in the beginning. look at us now. here we go. >> amazing. >> neil: one thing as a religion editor and so much more, lauren practices what she preaches and

relays what maybe some famous biblical passages over the years have been preaching. that is to just step back from this craziness, right? >> absolutely. the one thing that is important, you can't put god in a box. we like in this modern day to say good, you can have control over this part of my life but not this part of my life. that's not the way it works. >> neil: look at this craziness on capitol hill. >> it's very interesting. a lot of religious polls in pugh and other plays, they want to talk about how many people believe in god. 70%. that's not the issue. the devil believes in god. it's really what are you worshipping? that is the core of what is causing the divisiveness. what are you really worshipping? worshipping god or are your identity politics, gender identity, tribal identity? anything you put before god becomes a false idol. becomes what we don't realize is that sometimes we have these

identities that become our fundamental trust, the things that really believe that this is going to -- this is the thing that's going to save me. the source of my salvation. if it's not the living god, this is what devolves in to a lot of divisiveness. >> neil: i think as we lost sense of that, lauren and we talk about this, it's no mystery we lose a lot of other things. but one thing i have always known and loved about you, you always seem so calm. >> really? >> neil: clearly not italian. i say how does she stay so calm? >> i'm content. i think that's what -- >> that's an old concert pianist. >> neil: reading devotionals and sermons has created a contentment -- >> you pick these out each day to ones that caught you and you'd elaborate on them a little bit. >> neil: these are thoughts from the day i began writing after my first book, "light house faith."

i just amassed 450 of these thoughts for the day and that turned into the devotional. god works in the natural. he created soul, mind, body. he has dominion over all of it. we should go to him, you know, in all of -- >> neil: i'm thinking like these tech stocks overrun themselves. you think of more important things. such obsessed society on all of this other stuff. i get e-mail that might surprise you from born again christians that say nasty things to me, make me feel vulnerable. but not across the board. but that's the vernacular these days. >> this is hard. it's all god's money. that -- when you start thinking -- >> he doesn't like that, does he? >> he wants a portion of it back. >> neil: i hear you.

>> it's not for his sake, it's for our sake. god asks you a question. it's not for information. >> neil: he knows the answer. >> it's for us to answer our own hearts. >> neil: if you had a message for people. they have higher prices, they feel for saken. some see tragedy daily. wars that don't end. where is god. >> where is god? what does lauren say? >> god is always here. we want to put god in a box. some of our pains are self-inflicted. so we have to understand what self-inflicted what god has allowed us to suffer through in order to change our hearts. pain is like the fog horn or the bull horn for us and god getting our attention. i'd say read prescription, pray. understand that god is here. he's love is as close as the air

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illegal, undocumented. you're not supposed to be here. what did you make over the hissy fit bought of it? >> it's sad. shows you how deep politics are. ask the riley family. ask laken's mom and dad if they care about the world illegal. she's not with us. under the leadership of president biden and his policies. it's sat. it is. we're fighting over the words instead of the reality of a young expired american that died. >> neil: so where do we go now, sheriff? the president was bemoaning. republicans are pulling the rug out from fellow republicans that had this bipartisan border deal. it's a moot point. it's not happening. he was hinting on taking actions on his own. that has been shelved. where do we stand now? >> we've seen for years, there's no political will, no political action. all we have seen is blame between congress and up to the

white house with this president. what i didn't see last night, importants that i say that, i saw no responsibility from the president and i saw no apology from the president. it's got to start there. we're in a point of this crisis that there's been so much tragedy, whether it's fentanyl poisoning, whether it's crime, whether it's death as a result of this open border. somebody has to take some responsibility. i'd love to see an apology from somebody in washington d.c. to include the president. >> neil: for the president, his knee jerk and emotional immediate response was to use the term illegal. i understand others in the party, nancy pelosi and these others are saying, no, no, no, undocumented immigrants. that has a sense. the latter has a sense, it's a paperwork issue. it's not a paperwork issue. >> no. you know, this is what -- this is how far off we are on this. the fact that when you come across the border, without permission, you're breaking a federal law. that is illegal.

we set aside title 8. the president said give me the funding and i can fix this. he has more than the funding. he has the power. you're automatically supposed to be expelled. that's why it's catch and release here. he has the power of the people. >> neil: mark dannels, thanks. it's the same old issue. you and your men and women are trying to deal with that. the cochise county sheriff. the next step, maybe john tapper should be at the border. judging from his new season, he's just the guy. >> if we sit here till tomorrow morning, you won't have cocktails. >> you're right. >> to put you through this and them through it is torture.

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moment, no chance of success. let's get out of here so i can go to work. good night! >> neil: thinking to myself, we've got to get jon taffer in. the "bar rescue" host extraordinaire. loved his show. just love him as a person because you know exactly where you stand, or god forbid, don't stand. jon, how are you doing? >> always good to see you, neil. >> neil: how do they react? are they like, whoa? >> you know what's amazing, neil, try to trick them, i come a day early or a day late, they think i'm going to another bar, but there is a 20% chance that jon taffer was going to come to your bar and put you on national television, don't you think you would clean it up? they don't even do that, neil. and it illustrates the fact that business owners that are failing, they don't see the cracks in the walls, they walk right by it. and when i was in the hotel

business, had general managers that walked right by that crack in the wall. business owners that are failing are sometimes blinded by that failure. and you know, neil, after the pandemic and all the beating up that the industry has been through, they are not seeing as well as they should candidly. prices are higher. i just read an article in "the wall street journal" just the other day selling a $15 hamburger in new york city is still can't make money at $15. so as an industry, we are not struggling to find customers as much as to find profitability, and that is a challenge. >> neil: a lot of them mail it in. you seem to police that the most aggressively, the passive issue, a service, they take their sweet time getting food to customers or drinks, you don't let them get away with it. >> no, i don't. think about this, neil. a man 50 years old living in his parent's basement. who blew their retirement money. they have nothing. and they are about to lose their

house. i show up at his business and he won't close the business. they have a few thousand left and he is not going to stop until it is all gone. now when i show up, it is not about a bar. i'm trying to save their parents' house. so it is intense to me and it is a big responsibility so i go at them hard because i am fighting for that house. you know, every failing business has a broken wallet, and sometimes a broken family. >> neil: you know, jon, i sometimes wonder -- and there is a lot we don't see, but some people you can't help, don't listen to your health, and you say to hell with it, you are a lost cause. >> unfortunately that is the case. nobody is a lost cause when there is a family at home, when there is a house on the line. so it's interesting, neil, when i don't like the owner, this guy is a jerk, i don't even want to help him, i think of the employees. i'd like to help them. i think of the wife at home, i would like to help her, i think of the family. there is always somebody to fight for in "bar rescue," even

if it isn't the owner. >> neil: so you are in contract negotiations and the show was a hit, are they afraid of you? whatever you want, jon, it's okay. >> you know, it's funny. in negotiations i remember saying a few years ago, you know, you booked me because i am a lion and then you don't like it when i roar. >> neil: you know, that is a very good point. they let you do what you do because what you do is very popular and people love it, right? >> yeah, you know, at the end of the show i get that hug. we are wearing microphones in our chest so people don't hear what they say to me but neil, they tell me i change their lives, talking to their wives again, got their future back, i'm the father they'd ever had. the things they say to me when i hear that hug and then i realized one that fights with me the most, neil, the ones that give me the biggest hogs in the end. that makes me fight even harder next time. >> neil: beautiful, beautiful. i get words whispered, too. they are not repeatable. john, thank you. ♪ ♪ >> jeanine