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they should be forced to pay to have the government board their ships and monitor them as they do their jobs. in some cases the amount that they have to pay, these monitors on board is more than the fishermen make themselves. megan lapp, who we have spoken to before, is a fishing industry worker, directly impacted by all of this. she's going to join us exclusively in a moment with her

attorney. later we'll be joined by newt gingrich on the larger picture of the staggering theme that we saw in the iowa polling numbers around the desire on the part of voters there and we'll see if this is a larger theme in new hampshire, but many of them expressed a desire for complete and total upheaval of the way that the government interacts with them in their lives and the way the government works. first, to fox news chief legal correspondent, shannon bream. back in washington. live outside of the supreme court today for this very interesting and far-reaching case. hi, shannon. explain to us how this will work and what's at stake here. >> martha, there's more than 170,000 pages of federal regulations out there. so whether you're a fisherman, an everyday mom, whatever it is, there's dozens of decisions that are impacted by federal regulations and agencies saying

what you can and can't do. both sides agree there's a need for regulations for health, environment. that kind of thing. they don't agree on how much deference there could be for these agencies. the court is looking back at a case that dates back to 1984. gives agency as lot of deference when congress is not clear, there's an ambiguity of some kind. justice jackson says she's worried about the courts. >> i'm worried about the courts being uber legislators. >> so the biden administration has argued that taking authority away from the federal agencies could impact dozens of decisions here and in lower courts. they say it would serve as a shock to the system. justice kavanaugh says that happens every time a presidential administration changes. if an executive branch can change all of these decisions through federal agencies, it leads to instability. here's a bit of what he said. >> the reality of how this works

is chevron itself ushers in shocks to the system every four or eight years when a new administration comes in. >> and you want to give businesses and everyday americans stability about what these regulations mean to their lives. so we'll get a decision by the end of june here at the supreme court. meantime, they are handling a lot of other things that they have to nail down like whether states can kick president trump off of their ballots. so a busy time here at the court, martha. >> martha: they're very busy with election issues. this one appears to be much more in their wheel house in terms of how the constitution protects americans and the businesses that they run and all of that. shannon, very interesting case. thanks so much. so a story exclusive now with megan lapp, a fishery liaison for one of the companies at the heart of the case and mark chenoweth. he's a chief legal officer at

the new civil liberties alliance. great to have you with us. megan, let's start with you, if i may. explain to everybody watching at home right now just sort of a day in the life. what is happening on these boats, how is the government walking on to the ship and asking questions and charging money for people to abide by these regulations. what does it look like daily? >> before you leave the dock, you have to tell the government what you're going to fish for. you have a government ankle bracelet on your boat called a vessel monitoring system. they know where you are at all times, how fast you're going, what direction you're going in. there's a lot of reporting that is required by the government and we're also required by congress to take fisheries observers on our boat when chosen. they collect data and enforce rules and regulations. we can be boarded by the coast guard at any time with or without cause. this is all going on while we're

harvesting fish. we're hauling back nets, using heavy equipment. you know, on a platform that is moving. it's going fishing is a dangerous profession but it's an extremely rewarding one. in this particular instance, the government decided that it wanted to expand its monitoring program. but congress didn't give it the money to do so. so the agency's solution was the force the costs on us. >> martha: when this monitor comes on the boat, how much does the fishing company, how much do they have to pay for the privilege of having this government official come on to the boat for the day? >> the estimates i remember are about $710 a day. that can be more per day than our crew actually working on the vessel will make. that's a huge problem. >> martha: it's incredible. you know, mark, this is just emblematic of what companies all across the country go through in

terms of how they have to pay the government basically in order to keep functioning as a company because of these layers and layers of regulation. how do you see this? >> that's right, martha. megan and the exact they have is one example of what we see across these federal agencies where congress has not given the agency the authority to do something, but the agency takes that authority for itself. here congress never said that these agencies can charge megan and her boats, the relentless and persistence for the monitors to be on there. the agency didn't have enough money to do it unless they charge the boats. so they decided to read the regulation in a way favorable to the government so that they could go ahead and put more monitors on the boats than congress approved. >> martha: what is an analogy for people that are not in your industry to understand what this would be like for them in their daily life or in their business? how do you break it down for

people? >> well, it would really be like if your local town police force wanted to hire more policemen but didn't have enough tax revenue to do that. okay. we're going to make you pay directly for the salaries of the policemen and will cost you 20% of your annual income. >> martha: you know, it's so interesting. businesses across the country, if someone gets injured, there's like 75 layers that you have to go through. you have to bring people in to inspect your equipment and pay them. it goes across the board for so many businesses. mark, what is your take on this particular court, what you think they are likely to do and what did you think of justice kavanaugh's take on the fact that this becomes -- these regulatory agencies come at the whim of ingoing and outgoing administrations and would this take that away, the ability to dial up or dial them down away from the government?

>> yeah, i think justice kavanaugh is exactly right. these wild swings of how agencies in interpret the law from one administration to the next, it's not really consistent with the rule of law. congress didn't pass a law whose meaning changes 180 degrees every time a new government comes in. you get these dramatic switches back and forth in the meaning of the law. it's very difficult for a fisheries company or any other company to deal with if the meaning of the law is changing 180 degrees every four years. so that's why we think judges need to be the ones that are deciding the meaning of the law, not federal agencies. >> martha: these are private industries. we hear this president say he embraces capitalism and the freedoms of capitalism. this is major decision. thanks, megan and mark. great to have you with us today. keep us posted as this moves

along. thank you both. >> thank you. >> martha: good to have you here. we're in the middle of a pentagon briefing for the first time since redesignating houthi militants as terrorists. let's listen in to what pat rider has to say here. >> i'm not going to get into percentages or talking other than to say that we employed over 150 munitions over 16 locations and had impact. thank you. >> we've been reporting about a new attack today in the gulf of aden from houthi-controlled areas in yemen that targeted a u.s. merchant vessel. what can you tell us about the situation and any information you can offer. >> thanks. i amtraking reports coming out of the region. we're working with central command to get more information on that. as we have been, we'll put that information out as quickly as we

can. i'm tracking reports of an attack. >> the strikes against houthis in yemen are trying to disrupt their ability to continue these attacks. however, since the first wave of those strikes in yemen, two more for the first time, two u.s. ships have been targeted. would you say that situation in the red sea area is better or worse after those u.s. strikes? >> what i can tell you is that we have degraded houthi capability to conduct strikes. as i highlighted and as we highlighted shortly after those strikes, we would not be surprised if we saw efforts on their part to continue to try to conduct retaliatory strikes. ultimately the end of the day, let's take a step back and look at how we got here. mid november we started seeing the attacks despite multiple

warnings and multiple efforts. the houthis have continued. so there was an international coalition, including countries i highlighted at the top that have taken action to prevent these strikes or deter these attacks in the future. at the end of the day, the houthis need to ask themselves how much of their capability do they want degraded and disrupted in light of these illegal and reckless and dangerous attacks. the united states is, this is not about the united states. this is about the ability of the nation's of the world to sail in international waterways, through the red sea, through which 10 to 15% of economic trade transits and do so safely and securely. that's what we're focused on and we'll continue to work with the international community to deter these attacks. it's an international problem that requires an international

response. >> the iraqi prime minister told the "wall street journal" that the u.s.-lead military coalition in iraq to fight isis no longer needed. he said we believe the justifications for the international coalition have ended. he did not set a deadline and didn't close the door but he said the coalition would undermine iraqi capabilities. what is the u.s. response? >> i'm not going to comment on the iraqi government's remarks other than to say u.s. forces are in iraq at the invitation of the government of iraq. we value iraq as a partner. we will continue to consult closely with them. at this time i'm not aware of any official requests by the government of iraq for dod forces to depart. i'll leave it at that. >> have there been requests for

any official talks on -- >> as i highlighted, as the -- >> martha: we'll continue to monitor this news briefing at the pentagon with brigadier general pat ryder. meantime, continuing on this, the houthis have conducted 33 attacks in the red sea since the start of the war of israel and gaza, disrupting international trade. that's the idea. you can see how tight this area is and how a large percentage of trade goes through these straits. they have threatened to ignite a larger conflict in the middle east. joining me now with his thoughts on this reaction to what we're hearing, general frank mckenzie, now executive director of the global and national security institute at the university of florida. general, thanks very much. good to have you with us today. if i may, general, i'd like to start by playing this from john kirby who is talking about the fact that the administration has now reinstituted the tearist

label for the houthis at a slightly different level than they were designated as such in the trump administration. watch this. >> today's designation targets the houthis, not the yemen people. we recognize more than 15 million people in yemen are still desperate need of food, water, medicine and we are taking a range of steps to ensure that these sanctions preserve the ability of aid organizations to be able to deliver all of those much-needed supplies. >> martha: so general, welcome again. should this designation have ever have been lifted and will the fact that some level of it is reinstated make any difference in terms of the houthis determination to attack here? >> well, first of all, thanks for being with you this afternoon. i think the designation should have never been lifted in the first place. i understand the logic of trying to do that.

the houthis have proven that they're a terrorist organization funded and supported by iran. reinstituting this designation is timely and will be useful. it will be most helpful in terms of limiting some of the houthi ability to move money around internationally to fund their regime. that's where this will find its most use. it has a powerful psychological effect. it does identify them for what they are. a proxy terrorist regime funded by iran. >> martha: here's a piece of sound from the houthi military spokesman saying american and british ships are hostile targets in the region. watch this. >> the american and british war ships are considered hostile. the response to the american and british offense is certainly coming. any new aggression won't pass without response and punishment. >> martha: what is your reaction to that, general?

>> let's remember, it was the houthis that chose to escalate by the earlier strikes. it wasn't we. we are responding to a global requirement to keep international waterways open. the houthis have as one of their themes, the destruction of the state of israel and the destruction of the united states. we shouldn't be surprised that they're declaring us targets right now. i'm glad we started this program of going after their ability to launch these missile strikes. it will have to continue. we probably in the future shouldn't telegraph when we will will respond to give them chance to move around. it's not going to be something that will be over in a day or two. the houthis do have a finite capability. that is to say, a limited pool of weapons. we can do something about it if we stay with this program. >> martha: i want your thoughts on the tragic loss of two u.s. navy seals that according to

reports were in the process of boarding a ship up a side ladder that they believed was bringing in iranian supplied weapons and material to the houthis. a tragic accident happened, it appears. we're still waiting to get more details on this. what is your reaction to this, general? >> first of all, what seals do at sea is inherently dangerous. we hope they will be found. i certainly -- our hearts go out to their families. what it illustrates at the policy level, iran is resupplying the houthis. this is something that has been noted by various u.n. security council resolutions. we've acted in the past to try to stop this movement of lethal weaponry in to yemen. we talked earlier about the humanitarian crisis that is in yemen. many countries have brought a lot of goods in to yemen including the united states and other countries. iran has never imported anything

but killing devices. >> martha: thanks, general. very good to have you. hope to see you soon. >> thank you. >> martha: breaking moments ago, a decision out of maine as former president trump awaits his fate on the state's primary ballot there. andy mccarthy standing by.

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>> martha: a short time ago, we got word a judge in maine is delaying the decision on whether

to remove former president trump from the state's ballot until the supreme court weighs in on the similar case that is playing out with regard to colorado. remember last month, maine's democratic secretary of state joined colorado in dropping the former president from the state ballot because they say that he engaged in an insurrection. something that in all of those 91 counts that we have seen that he has never been charged with. watch. >> no secretary of state has deproved a presidential candidate access to the ball lot. no presidential candidate has ever engaged in insurrection. >> martha: we bring in andy mccarthy. a fox news contributor. good to have you with us. this has been stayed like the colorado situation was stayed. they're waiting in the state courts for the supreme court to weigh-in on this. what is your take?

>> i think it's a very good development because it not only increases the chance that the supreme court will rapidly issue a decision that will be decisive, which is what we hope. i think that, you know, when multiple states do this and then like maine comes out and says we're going to wait on the supreme court, that's a big encouragement to the court to decide this. when i say that, what i mean, martha, is we've talked before about the fact that this could actually be two phases of chaos. there could be one issue about access to the ballot with respect to the primaries and then access to the ballot with respect to the general election. so if you let this go, you let every state make their own ad hoc rules and then we have two waves of litigation, we're going to invite more chaos than we have already invited from the legal system in to the electoral politics of 2024. >> martha: so you have two big

issues that looks like the court is grappling with. one is whether or not a state can independently decide that a crime has been committed and taking an insurrection in this case and take him off the ballot. the other is question of presidential immunity. give us a sense of how you think the court will manage all of this and maybe while you're answering this, we can take a look at the very complex trump campaign courtroom calendar, andy. >> yes. well, i think, martha, what the court will want to stay away from is was there an insurrection and did trump participate in it. so the issues are going to come down to does section 3 of the 14th amendment apply to presidents, which i think is a profound question. and then secondly if it does, what procedurally has to be done in order to establish whether the insurrection trigger

applies. i would also add a third thing in to the mix just as long as the democrats are raising this. the 14th amendment, section 3, is not a limitation on the public. it's a limitation on the office holder. so it says that no person shall be a president or a senator or representative, you know the list. it doesn't say that no person shall be elected. i don't mean to be hard about this, but in 2000, mel cornihan was elected to the senate when he was dead. article one lays out what the qualifications are for the senate. you have to be over 30 years old, et cetera. i didn't hear anyone saying at the time that he needed to be taken off of the ballot. maybe they said it at the time but courts didn't entertain it. they didn't say he needed to be taken off of the ballot because the qualification included being alive in addition to checking

the other boxes. i think it's very peculiar. wouldn't surprise me if the court said, you know, get back to us when trump gets elected. then we can sort out whether he is a person that is qualified to take the office. >> martha: it's a creative effort no doubt and see what the court does with it. thanks very much. we're keeping you busy these days. see you soon. thanks so much. >> right. >> martha: so the judge in donald trump's latest defamation case threatened to toss him from the courtroom in the former president didn't keep quiet while e. jean carroll was testifying. she sued trump for assaulting her in the 90s. trump has insisted that he has done nothing wrong. a jury found him libel for this charge and then separately for defaming carroll in the aftermath of that charge and

awarding her to be paid $5 million by the former president. in this latest case, carroll testified that trump's continues lies about her are ruining her career and her reputation. the former president made comments during her testimony that included the quote that is not true. when the judge commented that true couldn't control himself, the former president replied, you can't either and walked out. so drama once again in the courtroom surrounding this particular case that has been playing out in between the former president's stops in iowa and new hampshire and i believe back to new hampshire again tonight for another rally. we'll continue to cover all of these trials and tribulations and campaigns as they unfold. we're less than a week from the next primary contest. the president looks to win new hampshire for the second time. time biden is unleashing what they say is a fearful situation if that were to happen. watch this. >> are you scared first of all

what could happen if trump ever became godforbid president again and what are you going to do to stop the crazies? >> i'm scared as heck. that's why i'm traveling our country. there's two ways to run for office. either without an opponent or scared. so on all of those points, yes, we should all be scared. >> martha: okay. brian kilmeade and sean duffy and former speaker of the house, newt gingrich coming up next. ah, these bills are crazy. she has no idea she's sitting on a goldmine. well she doesn't know that if she owns a life insurance policy of $100,000

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>> its an honor to have his endorsement. he will be working with us for a long time. >> martha: aren't politics

great? six days out from the new hampshire primary, president trump leads the new hampshire primary. the biden white house continuing to hammer the message that voters should be scared about the prospect of another four years of a president trump and what they say is the threat that he poses to democracy. let's go over and watch the ladies on "the view", folks. watch. >> we've got a guy right now that the former president, running for office, openly saying that he promises to be a dictator. a person running to enter in -- back in to the white house that is proud that he stripped americans women of the right to make decisions about their own body. a person running the become the commander-in-chief. he's admitting he would

weaponize the department of justice. i'm scared as heck. but as we know and certainly this is a table of very powerful women, we don't run away from something when we're scared, we fight back against it. >> martha: brian kilmeade joins us, co host of "fox and friends" and host of "one nation and sean duffy, a former wisconsin congressman. welcome to you. brian, about this pitch to embrace the fear. is this a successful way to run in this race? you can see the vice president there chatting with the extraordinarily intelligent ladies of the view as she characterized them. >> they're hoping the people watching are intelligent like the people of the view. if you listen to this thing, i'll be a dictator for one day. i want to drill and build the wall.

he said i know it's cold out. i want you to vote. even if you pass away, cast -- he said a throw-away line. they had hours on the other networks on. he doesn't care if you die voting for him. all he cares about is himself. i think you alienate a lot of people if you do that. if you're trump, don't give them anything anymore. they don't under sarcasm. do it the way you had your victory speech. i love nikki. so good to see ronnie. they really had fun together. >> martha: first time he called them by their actual names. >> it's okay. i'm not going to be an easy shot anymore. i think it's comic book thing for the vice president to act as if they were serious threats. it's comedy. >> martha: what is interesting, they feel like this is their best tact to sort of embrace these comments, you know, take these snippets out of the things he says. you don't see her talking about what an amazing job she's done

is as vice president and the fact that she's creating a legacy for the future of the democrats. >> it's interesting she's talking about weaponizing the dent of justice. anybody has looked back to see what they've done to donald trump? weaponizing the department of justice? these attacks would work if we didn't have four years of donald trump. people saw what he was in the white house. yes, he says things tongue and cheek. he's a little off color. he says mean things. but the results were nothing like a dictator. he gave more power back to the people and the states to let them make the decisions. he wasn't consolidating power in washington. that's what joe biden has done. he's giving the power back to the people. that's the opposite of a dictator. >> martha: let's talk about vivek ramaswamy. you hear people chanting veep, veep, veep. who do you think the best pick for him would be given what he needs. we all see in this polling, a biden trump matchup is something that a lot of americans don't want to see. and it looks very close.

so brian, what should he do? >> i think vivek ramaswamy in many ways, a younger carbon copy of him. he's a great communicator. would be good to go to college campuses, great to confer with. how does this sound. they know the business word. what frustrates him about the political world, fine. that won't help him. what helps him is elise stefanik. having a woman would be great. kristi noem, self-assured woman that has run a state that understands the issue. the third one, byron donalds. the perfect one is elise stefanik. maybe she would go like a hammer and get some things through. >> martha: an argument could be made that all three people don't pick up extra votes for him. which may exist in a more moderate late. >> i don't think he will pick elise stefanik.

he needs a woman on the ticket. that's what he needs. but going back to vivek, i don't think anyone communicates the american first agenda better than vivek, even better than trump. he's remarkable at it. that doesn't mean he has to be the v.p. pick. >> martha: will that pick up women voters? i agree with you. i hate to say pick a woman. but a person who can get voters who are some of those voters in the suburbs of michigan, arizona, in georgia who voted for trump the last time and say they won't go there again. maybe they would if the other half of the ticket is something that they would like to see come next. >> with donald trump and some of his -- the tone and language that he uses, a woman does matter. >> martha: what about nikki haley? >> no. she's an old school, a key -- neocon. >> martha: kennedy and johnson

hated each other. he picked him -- i'm not saying they hate each other. >> and bush and regan were similar. >> martha: it's a very significant part of the equation. >> lee zeldin is being vetted. >> martha: there's another name. we'll see where it goes. thanks very much. good to have you here. breaking right now, president biden about to hold a high stakes meeting with congressional leaders over funding for ukraine and israel. house speaker mike johnson says that his biggest focus is the border. white house correspondent jacqui heinrich out of the briefing room. she joins us now. hi, jacqui. >> we have no clear idea whether this meeting is going to be productive or not. republicans have said over and over again that they're not going to pledge their support for this broader supplemental, which funds israel, ukraine and the south pacific as well as the border until they get those substancive border policy changes. they are dug in on that.

from everything we hear from the white house, that's not going to be a topic of discussion. their focusing entirely on ukraine in this meeting. they're saying some of this information will be classified. they're sharing it with the top congressional leaders from both chambers, both parties and relevant economity chairs to lay out what the lack of continued support has done to ukraine's posture on the battlefield and impress upon them that we have to get this money through. there's nothing that they can tell them that hasn't already been said in terms of the need to get this ukraine funding through. if they're not going to talk about the border specifically, we don't really have any idea where this talk is going to go. we were told by white house officials, you can talk to members of congress to see what was said but we won't tell you what is on the table for these border policy reforms, what is under negotiation. they have good things to say about republicans that come to the table but describe house republicans as getting in the way on border reform.

when we were pressing the white house about how do you pass a bill if you see the lower chamber as just getting in the way? they said well, mike johnson is not the only lawmaker in that room. so we don't know what they have been discussing even though they're generally saying things were headed in the right direction and we don't know what all they're going to come up with. we're watching and waiting, martha. >> martha: all right, jacqui. very interesting and important what comes out of thanks. >> thanks. >> martha: two huge headlines out of the royal palace today. the princess of wales, kate middleton is now in the hospital and expected to be there for up to two weeks for surgery and the aftermath is said to not make any public appearances until easter. whats going on here? then we get the world that king charles iii is also going to be in the hospital for a prostate condition. live in london with neil sean

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♪ ♪ >> big news today involving the british royal family. kensington palace revealing that kate middleton will be in the hospital up to 14 days after undergoing a planned abdominal surgery. no details about her condition. she's expected to miss events for more than two months. shortly after that news came out, buckingham palace announced that 75-year-old king charles will have corrective surgery for a benign enlarged prostate. u.k. media reporter neil sean joins me now. very good to see you. thanks for being with us today. i know you went over to the hospital where she is recovering.

there are some reports about how this went. what can you share with us from being over there today? >> good evening from london, martha. yes, what has been interesting here is the timing of things. what we learned is that katherine visited the hospital yesterday for a private visit. obviously that was to check in. that's what we later found out. the big issue that katherine has undergone the surgery. that's proven successful thankfully. but by her saying that she doesn't want this discussed, this will lead to a lot of speculation about what the condition is, all of that stuff. i would expect at some point they would have to release further details to stop the swell of people literally adding on to this particular story. let's not forget that this is katherine, the princess of wales who has gone through a very stressful time. i know this from a good source

recently. only a few weeks back she was named the royal racist. this really had a big impact on her. when we were at the carroll concert at westminster abbey, you can see the zing had gone. obviously she had other issues. the bottom line is, this is a testing time brought on by a lot of stress. regarding his majesty the king. what i did find interesting about this particular timing is that that wasn't meant to come out officially until another couple of days. what i find interesting there is i think this is a deflection to take the pressure off of his beloved daughter in lawsuit, the princess of wales. he's a kind man, king charles. >> martha: so in both cases, the statements that were released, neil, is a they these -- both are noncancerous. whatever her situation is, it does not have to do with cancer. am i correct in saying that? and his prostate situation also said to be benign.

can you confirm that that is the statement from the palace? >> 100% the statement from the palace. i think this is a really brave move, martha, for the king to put that out there. i do think that he's obviously saying to all of his guys out there, it can happen to anyone, you know. go and get checked. so a nice side to that particular story. i do think he cares desperately for katherine. the bottom line is, i think this was a good move by him to move this story back to him rather than the pressure on her. >> martha: it's a long hospital stay for a young healthy woman and a lot of time away from the public for her as well. so we'll continue to see what more we can learn about this. obviously people respect anyone's wish for privacy. it's also interesting that our defense secretary was missing for quite some time with a prostate issue and we didn't learn about it until it was weeks in. prince charles has disclosed that right off the bat. so another interesting side note

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>> martha: a new york judge dismisses charges to release penny after a man died from a choke hold. lawyers for the family say that he was not doing anything harmful. penny appearing in court earlier with protesters shouting

murderer at him. the trial is expected to get underway this fall. fox news tapping in to voter sentiment in iowa and finding that many are deeply dissatisfied with the direction of the country and with the way that the government functions. a stunning 89% favored substantial change or complete and total upheaval of the way the government works in our voter analysis. that's just in iowa. so now on why many americans are feeling this way and whether or not it extends past iowa. newt gingrich, former house speaker and author of "saving american's future." always good to have you with us. the title of your book suggests that you think this is something more than just a one-off among iowa voters in this country. >> well, we have a project call

the america's new majority project where we've been doing polling since 2018. it's very clear that the gap between the elites and the rest of the country is enormous and getting bigger. the american people showed up in iowa. they're very worried about millions and millions of illegal immigrants. the american people are worried about the number of people dying from drug overdose. the american people are worried about crime. they're worried about going to the grocery store and not being able to afford thing or going to fill up their car. 6% of the country wants to buy an electric car. the biden administration wants to coerce everyone in to buying an electric car. all of these things are compounding. what you're saying is, people are saying this ain't working. they're both rejecting the performance mail your and they're rejecting the radical values. i think that will lead to a big change election this fall. >> martha: so you know, we heard

earlier when we were watching a clip from "the view" and the. kamala harris was on there telling people how scared and frightened she is for the future of the country. this is interesting, too, coming from mitt romney. senator from utah. former presidential candidate. a nominee of the party. he says as a biden campaign theme, i think the threat to democracy pitch is a bust. he goes on to say january 6th will be four years old by the election. people have processed it one way or another, biden needs fresh material, a new attack rather than kicking a dead political horse. what did you think of that comment and do you think he's right? >> i think mitt romney has it just about exactly right. there's something pathetic about biden going, for example, to make a valley forge speech which they postponed because the weather was too bad while thousands of people were going out to vote in iowa and a very

cold night tells the difference. the democrats are engaged in sort of shadow plays. if you ask the average american, are they more worried about the democrats destroying democracy or the republicans, i think you'll be surprised how many pick the democrats. you look at biden's justice department, look at these multiple lawsuits against donald trump. you look at the number of people being prosecuted over going to the capitol compared to no one being gone after in terms of the riots two years ago, the average american thinks washington is corrupt, that it's dangerous and that it's out of control. that's biden and the democrats. that's why i think you're seeing even among latinos, african americans, asian americans, steady shift towards trump and away from the democratic party. >> martha: we'll see what happens in new hampshire. i love that you paid the point about the weather. you know, there was this big

walk-out scheduled to happen in protest of the white house's take and support for israel. they didn't do it because they had a snow day. just kind of tells you how strong -- how fiercely they feel about that, right? we're going to take a snow day. >> right. look, you can't expect liberals that are soft on everything to suffer bad weather. i agree with speaker johnson. anybody that walks out on the government should be fired. >> martha: thanks, newt. see you soon. that's "the story" for this wednesday. as always, "the story" goes on. we'll see you back here tomorrow at 3:00. our friend neil cavuto about to get started on "your world" as we look at the close of the trading day. we will see you back here tomorrow from new york. >> neil: thank you, martha. is ron pulling a rudy.

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