>> kayleigh: hello, everyone. this is "outnumbered." i'm kayleigh mcenany along with harris faulkner and host of get tammy bruce on fox nation and radio and podcast host ben ferguson. so republicans on the house judiciary committee are now sending a subpoena to f.b.i. director christopher ray demanding that he testify on a chilling memo that they say

outlined, get this, a plan to spy on catholic churches. the memo from the f.b.i.'s richmond field office suggested radical catholic ideology could lead to domestic terror. and that the f.b.i. sought to develop sources inside churches to report on any suspicious activity. house judiciary committee chairman jim jordan writing in the subpoena "this information is outrageous and only reinforces the committee's need for all f.b.i. material responsive to our request. the documents produced to date show how the f.b.i. sought to enlist catholic houses of worship as potential sources to monitor and report on their parishioners." it's a chilling thought. the memo even drew criticism from the f.b.i. director ray himself. he condemned the memo when asked about it last month. >> when i first learned of the piece, i was aghast. >> as you should be. >> and we took steps immediately

to withdraw it and remove it from f.b.i. systems. it does not reflect f.b.i. standards. we do not conduct investigations based on religious affiliation or practices full stop. >> kayleigh: emily, i want to take us through you on we got through first starting with the january 23, 2023 memo. this memo comes out. here's the headline. interest of racially or ethnically motivated violent extremists and radical traditionalists catholic ideology almost certainly presents new mitigation opportunities. they relied on data from the notoriously left leaning southern poverty law center to suggest catholic americans may be domestic terrorists. i went to catholic school my whole life. i go to catholic mass every other sunday. my husband is catholic and i'm protestant. i've never met a radical traditional catholic, never heard of this nor is there a wave of catholics committing violence across the country. you as a catholic yourself got to read this and think what is going on? why is my faith being targeted? >> emily: that's right, the senator did an excellent job of

articulating what is frankly an inconsciencable assault on first american rights and complete mahmoud abbas -- abdication of duty without fear or fever. keep in mind for viewers, we have the director who said he was rightly so aghast at what happened? how did he get there? how did our tax dollars pay for this program for undercover agents to be installed at this extremist churches, why? because they spoke latin in masses? right? that's a traditionalist approach. many, including my family who grew up in sicily oftentimes, that was part and parcel of that. for some reason, however, that made it to the top. it made to the execution phase. think about how now you can't even be pulled over without there being paperwork and a reason, justifiable reason. so think about to that level, when it gets to that point, how many hands approved that decision. and notice how the attorney general merrick during his testimony before congress denied

everything. so the question is either was he lying before congress when he denied over three times there were, in fact, undercover agents placed in these churches? that there were informants being cultivated, that there were sources being cultivated setting up a trip wire for this extremist searchout? he either didn't know which is appalling or he did know and he was lying about it which is actually -- which is even more appalling. so that's also what senator holly and others are demanding accountability for and what we as the american people should do as well. >> kayleigh: since you broke that up, let's go to that now. harris, he called this memo appalling and so did ray. both said it's appalling and since been rescinded. here to emily's point what garland told holley. we have this soundbite about the use of potential informants in the catholic church. >> are you cultivating sources and spies in latin mass parishes and other catholic mass parishes around the country? >> the justice department do not

do that. >> how many informants do you have in catholic churches across america? >> i don't know. i don't believe we have any informants aim at catholic churches. >> harris: was he lying then? was he lying now? what is the truth? where does it lie? i look at this from more than 37,000 feet, rather, this is really a press against christians. and following the nashville covenant elementary school mass shooting, and the fact that on the left, they didn't want to call that targeting but would be quick to jump to that if we were talking about other religions. i mean, come on, that's pretty obvious. so what is going on here? because those are two men at the top of their food chains, both at the d.o.j. and the f.b.i. having to deny even -- or lie or both. both can be true. denying that there exists this culture there that might be anti-catholic or anti-christian even though there's the letter. they both say oh, you know, we condemn the letter.

well, do you condemn the action behind that letter? and has there been any action taken? and by the way, if he doesn't know if he has informants at church, he should resign tomorrow. i mean, churches are the backbone of this country. when you look at the most important moments in our history. they were a place of refuge. they were a place of, you know, salvation, not just your soul but community. >> community, healing. >> harris: all sorts of things are going on to this day historically in our churches. if the head of the d.o.j. doesn't know if he has some informants in american churches, he should just sit down and take several -- >> kayleigh: let me quickly get this back in there. there's that memo. it's rescinded, right, we move on to jim jordan says i need information about how this memo was created. he gets 18 pages of material heavily redacted. here's what he finds in the material of what he can read. he finds out that they sought opportunities for new avenue and

trip wire and source development. trip wire means informal sources. they were then going to go to mainline catholic parishes and diocese leadership to leverage existing sources to type five assessments. type five assessments are informants. so from what we can read very clearly, this lays out what they were trying to do and we know at least one undercover agent involved. these are facts. >> well, the next question needs to be what other religions have been targeted? they said the word in there and i don't know if you guys caught it. radical traditionalist catholics. did you notice that? radical and traditionalists are very different things. so what it means to me is, ok, if you're a traditional catholic, we now deem your values and your faith as radical. you're a radical if you believe in traditional marriage. you're a radical if you believe in anti-lgbtqia agenda. you're a radical if you want to raise your kids in christian and catholic school. you're a radical if you believe in traditional family values.

so the question i now have is you lied about when you went after parents, you remember that? >> harris: i am one so yes. >> they lied. remember? we were domestic terrorists if you show up at the school board meeting. f.b.i. clearly now has decided to become not law enforcement at the top. they are now institutions of what communists used to do which is target people you want to take out. and if you can go after an entire religion and that is what they're trying to do here and describe it as domestic terrorists, same thing they did parents. i want to know who else is on the list. if we're on this set right now, are we on a list? if you go to an evangelical church, are you on a list? if you go to any normal traditional religion, are you on a list and they're trying to recruit people? >> harris: the point that i was trying to make, i wouldn't doubt that most of the people on that list are christians. it's obvious. >> kayleigh: we know that they targeted the pro life community. we put the numbers up there before. tammy, i'm appreciate of garland saying he's appalled. i'm appreciative of ray saying

i'm aghast. but that doesn't end it here because there are more questions. jim jordan points out the document itself shows its contents including its proposal to develop sources in the church were reviewed and approved by two senior intelligence analysts and even the local chief division council. we know from whistleblowers the f.b.i. distributed this document to field offices across the country. so the head is saying they're appalled. that doesn't answer the nuts and bolts of the senior leadership beneath them. >> no, what is he appalled at really or aghast at how it was written, perhaps, but note, what i noticed right away -- when you say something specific, you're removing something else from the consideration. so he says we're not going to investigate people because of their religious beliefs. well, of course not. but that's why now they've been deemed r.t.c.'s, radical traditional catholics, that it's not because of their religious beliefs. those people are fine. it's that they're radicals. so you can say oh, we're not -- he said absolutely, full stop, we're not going to be going in

and, you know, to investigate churches or any of that. well, of course not. they're going in to investigate extremists. so this is when you hear about it, as opposed to him saying this is nuts. no one is going to spy on the churches. he never said that. this is unacceptable. but he did say we're not going to target people because of their religious beliefs. they've decided this is not a religious belief. and then they also mentioned in the other memo the main line churches. that means they feel that the churches that are not -- if you're going to a latin mass, catholic church, you are likely more conservative. so that's the problem there. and i think that's why you've got that specificity. they were going after conservatives who are people of faith. >> kayleigh: and the facts belie the platitudes so jim jordan, a lot of questions and i hope we get more answers. coming up, the california governor gavin newsom appears to be eyeing the white house one day. although he plans to wait, he's offering political advice to florida governor ron desantis

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>> harris: california governor gavin newsom is aiming to beef up his national image, potentially gearing up for a white house run in 2028. he's launching a new political action committee to help democrats in 2024. and he just wrapped up a red state tour where he went after republican leaders as authoritarian he called them. newsom also rallied against florida governor ron desantis in his home state. and he didn't hold back in an interview taking a swipe at that potential 2024 presidential candidate. here it is. watch. >> i'd tell him to pack up and wait a few years. and actually do some of the hard work which actually includes governing, not just a culture

war. come back as a more seasoned and capable leader with a little humility which, by the way, he can use a little of. >> harris: i mean, people were leaving his state to get to florida like there was -- like there was freedom. i was going to say free stuff. but just free! >> tammy: maybe instead of humility, it was about humiliation what he's putting california through, my home state. this shows you that at least he's got a record that he has and that it's a record of failure but they don't -- it never seems to connect for the democrats. they're accomplishing their goal. they have complete contempt for americans who --i it's not goin to register somehow. you remember the vice president normally should be the attack dog for the president. i think that's what he's auditioning for. i think he's auditioning against kamala harris, that this is the kien of person you need out there because, you know, joe biden can't do it and even if he's wrong in that and biden

does not run, he's in a better position when it comes to running for president in general. it's obvious people look at that and you're aghast. that happens a lot these days with politics. >> harris: i know you guys, i was off yesterday for easter monday. but i think you probably talked about the president yesterday saying that he plans to run. he just hasn't announced it yet. i think he's in, right? >> ben: maybe. >> harris: it wasn't me. >> ben: i got to check my handlers to tell me what i can and can't do. >> harris: is that what gavin is doing, mayor newsom is doing. mayor, governor. i gave him a demotion and the wrong name! geez. but is that what he's doing by saying 2028? he wants to kind of -- >> ben: i think it's the most awkward position that you can be if you're gavin newsom and a democrat. what do i do? am i running now? is he going to run? is he not going to run? are they going to pull him from the stage? he's -- you don't know what you, biden you get on a monday, tuesday or wednesday. like he can't put together clear answers so you got to basically

raise money now. if you're wanting to run for president in 2024 and he clearly wants to run for president and he wants to run whenever it's available. you got to raise money. so you raise money in the pac now and go out and talk to people and you wink and nod and you're like hey, we're going to help candidates. maybe me. it may be me that i'm the candidate if this opportunity. we don't want to be behind the eight ball. i mean, this dinner is a classic dinner in politics. you hear the sales pitch. look, we're going to raise some cash. give it to my pac. i'm going to help people if i don't run but there's a good chance that there could be an opportunity here. we don't want to be behind the eight ball. we got to win the white house. he's doing a pretty good job at it. >> harris: tammy, how does it play inside the democratic party you think when you have the guy at the top icing out any potential competitors asides from the fact that it looks like nancy pelosi when representative tim ryan ran. >> tammy: there's the sacramento to washington pipeline. >> harris: there is? >> tammy: he's effectively related to nancy pelosi. they're very close and he's part of that team. so this is the presumption. it's like the next in line.

every friend and i still have friends who are democrats, liberals in california. i hear from both sides of the aisle. they hate him. the state's destroyed. everything is destroyed. there's violence. san francisco situation is the perfect example of what he represents, what pelosi represents. but because we're just, you know, the little rues we don't matter. there's some larger thing that the masters of the universe are worried about. and the arrogance that you see in this. americans have learned, we make judgments very quickly, he's arrogant. he went against what he campaigned on like just dismantled roe and got rid of the death penalty when californians were voting many times let's speed it up. more! this guy came in and did the reverse. everybody in california knows who he is. fact of the matter is will media carry him along? possibly. but californians need to make sure that -- and republicans need to stand up and i don't hear it coming back on newsom

about how he's destroyed that great state. >> harris: that's what i wanted to come to you for. politically on the right side of the aisle, there is a lot of field to run here with him. >> kayleigh: there is a lot of field to run with. he's positioning himself no doubt about it to run. let's put ourselves in the mind of gavin newsom himself. when i was there, the biggest one was kwcuomo and all of a sudden, he's gone. newsom sees an opening. if you look at approval numbers, they were at 42% and 32% approval. and biden at the time was 35%. newsom says this before the mid terms. does it feel like a red wave? of course it does. it goes to my fundamental grievance with my bleep party. we're going to have to do better and stop being on the bleep defense. that's a man that wants to run for office and maybe be a primary challenger.

but then biden outperformed expectations but nevertheless, we saw the cnn poll yesterday only 33% of biden's party wants him to run. so he sees an opening. >> ben: you look at this, not a single democrat is saying to him, shut up and sit down. you're way out of turn here. be quiet. and that tells you how hungry the democratic party is to get rid of joe biden. they're willing to prop him up regardless of the catastrophic events that have happened in his state because they're so desperate to get rid of joe biden. they're like hey, man. you got our blessing. do this. throw bombs. we're not going to call you out for undermining, because he's really undermining joe biden here. >> harris: we say this, politics is a blood sport. i mean, if you can't count on your friends, i guess you have to count on your frenemies. biden probably thinks it's good strategy to sit out and ice out the fundraising of the other potential candidates. maybe he shouldn't sit so long. >> emily: those are great points and great questions. funny you say frenemies.

what you brought up, gavin is not playing in a vacuum. there's kamala. remember, they hail from the same town. they come from the same political circles, the same donors. they share consultants. and through the years, they've sort of been embroiled in this dance, right, that oh, we're best friends. and they've come close to duelling. we remember 2015 when barbara boxer's seat was vacant for the senate. gavin said go ahead and take it. i'll have my sight set on the governor's mansion. we've seen them do the tango as they share these resources. the bottom line is we know that they're vying for the same seat come 2024. maybe, perhaps, by different -- 2028. maybe, perhaps, by different paths to your point about maybe he says ok, i'll take the v.p. spot. that sort of remains to be determined. but here's where i think it will play out and be interesting in the left woke media is the whole notion that gavin newsom as a white male knows better than you, people in boxes i've checked that i seek to amplify. so remember, he passed historic legislation.

he signed in california for the first black women's thinktank. his reparations committee. he's been, as he proclaims, their biggest champion. so when push comes to shove, wouldn't the argument be, well, then why are you running against a black woman that is supposed to be your best friend? why wouldn't she then be all the more qualified to serve in this position that you have hearkened your entire political career with championing to the destruction, however, of california because there's no sound policy behind it? >> harris: that's the problem with compartmentalizing politics like this. that's not about her merit. that's about her box checking, too. >> emily: exactly. that's how they roll. they're in california. >> harris: coming up, texas governor abbott vows to pardon army sergeant convicted of killing a b.l.m., black lives matter, protester and he is getting major blowback. the debate next. i struggled with cpap every night. but now that i got the inspire implant, it's making me think of doing other things i've been putting off.

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charges against an army sergeant convicted last week in the july 2020 killing of a black lives matter protester. a jury found sergeant daniel perry guilty of murdering air force veteran garrett foster. perry says it was self-defense. he claims foster pointed an ak-47 at him during chaotic george floyd demonstrations in downtown austin. now, an eyewitness says foster was pushing his fiancee's wheelchair when he was fatally shot. at the center of this case is texas' stand your ground law. perry faces five years to life in prison. the pardons board is acting on calls from the republican governor greg abbott who tweeted this over the weekend. i'm working as swiftly as texas law allows regarding the pardon of sergeant perry. something i found interesting about this case is the use of the concept and phrase nullify by both sides of this argument. abbott himself said texas has one of the strongest stand your ground laws of self-defense that he said that cannot be nullified by a jury or a progressive

district attorney. and then note that critics of his decision to analyze this say well, you are seeking to nullify a jury's ruling and essentially prosecutorial discretion. >> kayleigh: we see the power of prosecutors across the country. we saw it last week with the indictment of a former president with d.a. bragg here and we see it named jose garza who called this case, and even though he left the scene, austin p.d. investigated and said this was lawful self-defense. but leave it to garza who campaigned on prosecuting cops to bring this case anyway. it's not just this case. he's also bought a case against 19 indicted officers despite, again, the police department saying that there's nothing to see here. and, in fact, they accuse him, this is the greater austin crime commission, they accuse garza of prejudicial past statements, withholding evidence from the grand jury, dysfunction, and he's been accused of withholding exculpatory evidence from the grand jury. when you campaign to prosecute

police and you're a rogue d.a. funded by george soros, you get results like this. >> ben: there's two things that concern me. number one, this is an individual that went out there, was working, serving his country and tried to make extra money. and then someone points an ak-47 at him. if a gun is pointed at you and i've had that horrific experience, you're not thinking about an activist d.a. you're thinking about saving your life. and when you have a firearm to protect yourself and you have to pull that trigger, it is not a fun moment. i've done it. it's miserable. the court cases that ensue, being threatened with your life in the courthouse as i was. i was the target of a gang initiation in my hometown of memphis. when you go through that, and you get in the elevator and then they come after you and you know that there's a chance that you could have done something wrong. in the hours after that happened, i was treated like i was a criminal because they don't know what happened. and i remember sitting there in that room at 3:00 in the morning by myself going what's going to happen to my life? you're like should i have pulled

the trigger? obviously, they were shooting at me. i felt like i could shoot back. but it starts playing with your head and your mind and you go through all that. i can just tell you, i can't imagine being him knowing that someone pointed an ak-47 at you and you saved your life by shooting at them before they shot you. and then you call 911 and do the right thing. same thing that i did. you go to the police and tell you what happened. they say you're good. it's defense. you're ok. and a year later, an activist d.a. comes in and says no, you're in the military i'm going to go after you because you're in the military. this is a black lives matter rally so i can check that box, too. and i'm going to get re-elected because this is about getting re-elected. this is a liberal city in texas where this gives you credibility with liberal voters on election day and the fact that it happened at a black lives matter rally was all that mattered to this if this would have happened on a random tuesday, probably would be a free man right now. this is a double whammy. i get to nail a guy that wears a

uniform and claim that i'm a woke liberal and i'm going to get re-elected. i think he should be pardoned. i think he spent far too much time in jail already. i think he should hug his mother again, family again as quickly as the governor can pull this off because this is an abuse of power. >> emily: thank you so much for sharing that personal experience, ben, so sorry that happened to you. >> ben: it blows your mind when it happens. >> emily: as we're clear for the facts here, victim was also an air force veteran and those are the events that are alleged by then defendant. go ahead, harris. >> harris: i am curious and i'm so glad you're ok. that was sort of breathtaking moment for you to share that. i'm curious, though, what evidence is really needed? you were nervous, i'm assuming there were cameras because of the location where that was. a courthouse, i think you mentioned. >> ben: at the courthouse is when i was sitting there, and they take you downtown and treat you like you could be waiting for someone to show up at a hospital. and they treat you like you're a criminal at that moment. >> harris: my question would be what kind of evidence -- before

the governor jumps in, because that -- i'm concerned when you see a governor jump in, he can't adjudicate this case and just want to make sure that he, then, doesn't get the ire of the liberal on the left d.a. i mean, seriously, because i think they're hungry enough, as we saw with a really weak case against the former president trump, they're hungry enough to come for whomever they have to. so you want to retain your position of power in the state of texas withstand your ground as a governor. so what evidence does there need to be? emily, do you think the video? do you -- i mean, i'm curious! >> emily: i think this case perfectly illustrates a lot of factors that you discussed. but also, exactly what evidence is needed and keep in mind that depending on the state that you're in, there are some laws that essentially protect you from being prosecuted in the first place which is what we're talking about. and then there are others that are in place that essentially are a defense and adequate defense to a shooting, charges

of murder where you say yes, however, it was justified. and so the prosecution proceeds with bringing that case and then you bring the doctrine in florida, for example, that's what you bring up at trial. but i think this also, tammy, you know, sort of brings up as well the interplay that in the justice system, where do we air? where do we want people to air? do we want them to air on the side of innocence, air on the side of mercy? you know, what roles the governor and the pardons board plays. do you trust more a jury of your peers or do you trust more that system that scaffolding that we have in place for cases like this? >> tammy: i think this is why governors have that power is because sometimes, it has -- somebody has to look at the pieces when you've got an activist d.a. when you've got a police department that said the opposite almost like the supreme court. when you've got competing ideas about what should have happened, and where you have a manhattan or another liberal city where a jury is going to behave predictably, then that's why this system works well with commutations or pardons or that

person overlooking it, that's why we have this system. >> harris: yeah, and the reason i bring up whether or not he takes a hit politically or even legally from a hungry d.a. is because of what we just saw with the former president. you know, extending out from a misdemeanor into the lowest possible category of felony to go after trump. who knows where that case is going to go. we don't even see them again all in court until december 4th. it could be a political delay, as we like to say. but in this instance, i see something similar happening potentially down the road to challenge this law with the governor in the center of it. and what does that become? a shiny object politically in that state. >> emily: remember kyle rittenhouse, the case that played out on national television and the amount of evidence was overwhelming in the form of angles and the verdict was still absolutely demonizing. >> harris: you also had current president biden weigh in on that, too. >> emily: you did, right.

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>> kayleigh: the left agenda has now hit the big screen in a pretty alarming way. the film features young climate activists as they plan to blow up a texas oil pipeline in order to stop fossil fuel production. it's loosely based off a 2021 manifesto that was written by swedish political theorist. in the movie depicts a dangerous plan to sabotage a piece of federal property in the name of climate. how do they do it? by building their own explosives and justifying their

ecoterrorism. >> hey, everyone, welcome back. today, teaching myself to make a homemade blasting cap. if it works, it will be step one to making our own improvised explosive. >> might be headed to texas for the winter. >> what's in texas? >> it's a project. >> what kind of project? >> try to stop the pipeline from being built on my property. >> water. >> we have to show how vulnerable the oil industry is by hitting something big. >> american empire calls us terrorists and we're doing something right. >> kayleigh: in the movie, they apparently say how history will view them and they compare themselves to the boston tea party and martin luther king jr. somehow, you're nowhere near that. >> harris: no, you're willing to potentially kill people to get what you want because you're blowing stuff up. there's an actor in this lucas gauge and that's kind of how i found it because he had put that up on something. ok, he's in, you know, some

other stuff right now. as these actors do these films, does it help or hurt their career? because we are in one space right now, things change. i was thinking about it. he's a young actor. as you watch this, there's a lot of violent intent from this screen side. they don't just want to win. it's war to them. they want everybody else to lose mightily. >> kayleigh: yes. >> harris: whatever it takes. and that's some dangerous ground because we haven't finished studying what a transition will look like no matter how much they want to blow stuff up, we'll need fuel for a while. >> kayleigh: the media is loving it. you can take a look at their headlines. hottest state movie, i don't think so. an adaptation. they go on to say it's explosive, new drama. they're loving it. magnificent. >> tammy: that's the problem. even just need to see the trailer or read those reviews, it's normalizing this and the issue could be anything. harris, you got it right. this is about envy and rage and

really about kind of normalizing that this is an actual debate whether, you know, whether do you do the violence? that's our problem. and that's moving through the left. it has been for years. and it's here now. >> kayleigh: if your hottest date movie, emily, is watching an ecoterrorism film, you could argue it is. maybe you have some other issues. >> emily: this is absolutely appalling. we have seen trends of ecoterrorism in this country and beyond that have resulted in the loss of lives and over 110 millions of dollars over the span of 30 years. so seeing this resurrected in the form of this propaganda indoctrination attempts at the youth is absolutely appalling to me. remember, between 1996-2001, the earth liberation front and animal liberation front carried out so many arson bombings, right? those guys all served decades and decades ultimately because the costs were so high and lost of life was so high. it made no sense at that point. it was antithetical to crow about saving the environment and yet burning it down.

setting free wild animals and burning down a ski resort because lynx lives nearby. level of destruction has no place to stand and i don't want to see our country go down that road again and our d.o.j. get down that road again. >> ben: to be clear, this is hollywood as manifesto. but it's hollywood's manifesto. this is normalizing and saying you're justified in your anger towards fossil fuels, towards texas, towards what you put in your car every day. this is normalizing just like they've done recently with these young kids who are throwing things on beautiful paintings and art around the world. you're normalizing that if you don't like it, you're allowed to act out. and this is hollywood saying, guys, we're at war here. it's the green war. this is green new idea. this green new religion, and this is our manifesto, do with it what you want. >> tammy: this is the new dirty dozen or bridge over the river

kwai or something where that's the patriotism and that's our problem. >> emily: this is a movie but i want to quickly play something that greta said on "the view." >> if we want to see real changes, we can't -- if we look through history, if people who were advocating for, for example, social justice, if they had only used the legal methods, then we wouldn't be where we are today so we need to think outside of the box because this is a crisis. >> tammy: only use legal methods, biggest most successful civil rights movement in the history of mankind were both peaceful. gandhi and martin luther king jr. >> harris: yeah. >> tammy: peaceful methods, legal methods, exposing the horrific dynamic of the system. this is, i mean, these are young -- the reason it's young people because they don't know enough to ask or to know how this is bad. >> harris: it's like bad behavior eco privilege. she knows she can go as far as she wants to go, whatever she wants to say because nobody is

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>> coming up, the search for answers in the recent week of classified documents. it's growing bleaker. officials suggest this could be bigger than snowden. live update from jennifer griffin at the pentagon in a moment. general keith kellogg will react. new developments in the hunter biden investigation first on fox as we learn biden's business partners and assistants visited the white house 80 times when joe biden was president. vice president. our panel on americans fleeing big cities. who is at the top for population decline in 2022? we will dig in. brandon judd, marty mccarrie and more coming up as "america reports" top of the hour. >> kayleigh: a growing number of colleges across the country are ditching letter grades reportedly in an effort to help new students adapt to adult life. the trend is being called ungrading. and many students say a lack of letter grades helps retrieve stress and "remove potential

bias in the classroom." tammy? >> tammy: this started really with they began to eliminate remedial classes because you come out of high school, freshmen did not know really how to functionally read, write or do arithmetic. that became bias. and it was just too stressful. so this is a natural next step is that they're covering up the failure of the public school system. they are -- they need people to enroll in college for that money. they're effectively saying one commentator, political scientist professor said this is like a 75% off sale. come in now, you don't have to worry about it. it will be like camp. you won't have to work hard. and then you're taking out those loans and spending that money. but we are going to be -- they're the victims. we'll be the victims. and these are the people who are going to be blowing up pipelines, if you will. they will have no other skill because they're going to be pushed through college with absolutely understanding nothing. and it's the opposite of what you need for life. you flneed to know how to compe. and there might be people out

there that might be better than you and you have to adjust. there's going to be stress. that's what college is for. >> emily: that commonsense comment, ben, was in stark contrast by one of the quotes by one of the students used in defense of this new and absurd policy where he said grades don't take into account things like challenging semester or my mental health or whatever. there's no grades in the real world. why should we have them here? it's called employee assessment, it's called competition. >> ben: as a business owner, i can tell you right now, we're screwed because almost everyone that comes in that's younger, i'm like what is your story going to be now for the reason why you missed a day of work? the first week we hire you. happens all the time. there's no work ethic in america anymore. couple of years ago, do you remember when there was criticism of not hiring people from harvard, yale, princeton because they've been coddled their whole lives and the first time a boss had to kind of tell them you're screwing up, they would go in the corner and rock themselves like they were the worst employees and they were talking about this trend and people were not hiring. people from ivy league because they couldn't take criticism and couldn't take the heat. now you're going to have an entire college group that's

going to graduate that they're all going to be still little children. and it's going to ruin america's work force. >> emily: incapable of assessment or criticism. >> ben: grow up and get a grade. >> harris: accept the fact that if you didn't get the grade that you thought you deserved, work harder. >> emily: i went to harvard law, we didn't have traditional grades. it's high pass, low pass. i agree it removed the stress and i agree the grade doesn't capture everything. what i worry about particularly at the high school level, what's the neutral metric for assessing candidates? is this now a woke professor that decides what's woke enough. that's my worry. >> kayleigh: our entire grade was one exam at the end in my school. i remember being at a dinner table and preparing myself to tell my family i failed. i am failing this class, you know, it was actually criminal law. and i'm going to be failing out of law school. i went on the computer and got my grade and it was an a. and the whole point is that, you know, when you work hard. when you have that assessment in

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