>> one was in juvenile detention the day before. >> they live in a world these days, and i think the cyber phenomenon is part of that, live in a world beyond the reach of their parents in many ways, you know, in every area of the country. one of the things i'm sure they confronted in this case, i guarantee you a lot of what they got they got from digital information, the phones, the apps, all of that. parents, have a plan. you know, your kid is not going to give you their password. have a plan, god forbid something happens, have your password stashed some place i can get at it, because without getting into those phones, law enforcement is hamstrung. it's so key. ultimately here we got into one of the phones, they see the texts, see them arranging the meeting, and i think that probably broke it, along with a witness. >> old-school sheriff. >> old school, yet using modern

tex. he leveraged the media, talked about the cellphone stuff. this guy got it done. kudos. >> they're still looking for a third suspect. might have news today on that. paul mauro, thank you. >> thank you. >> 13 american soldiers killed in the terror attack at the kabul airport. now the biden administration attempts to shift blame for the chaotic withdrawal from afghanistan. welcome to a brand-new hour of "america's newsroom." i'm dana perino. >> dana, good morning to you. nice to see you. getting ready for the easter weekend. wow. passover is underway. i'm bill hemmer. good morning. the new report released by the biden administration saying the decision to end a 20-year war was the right thing to do. it does not, however, erase the pain. one marine recently calling the massive blast at the kabul airport leaving him severely injured. remember this? a few days. >> i'm thrown 12 feet on to the

ground. i opened my eyes to marines dead or unconscious, lying around me. mmy abdomen ripped open, taking ball bearings and shrapnel. i tied to get up, but could not. i started to lose consciousness. when i heard my team leader screaming my name as he ran to me. his voice calling to me kept me awake. >> so that was a month ago. the and the images that you're seeing right now going to be with us forever. final days and hours, u.s. withdrawal, you watched it live with us, burned into our collective memories. thousands and thousands of people trying to escape the looming taliban takeover. the biden team now admitting to shifting blame to the decisions by the trump administration. they say their proud of the way the w withdrawal was handled. >> one conclusion you can come

to, that it was the right decision. there's a lot to be proud of. >> peter doocy live. peter? >> dana, officials here are not planning any major changes to the way things work, admitting the intel on afghanistan was bad, but conceding that intel is a tough business. >> who's going to get fired over this? >> peter, the purpose of the document that we're putting out today is to sort of collate the chief reviews and findings of the agencies that did after action reviews. it's not -- the purpose of it is not accountability. >> in a 12-page report put together by white house officials they lay heavy blame on the trump administration for negotiating with the taliban and then ghosting the biden team

during the transition about the status of those taliban negotiations. >> i think this is an insult to the intelligence of the american people. we all watched what happened. the battle cry of this administration is always blame trump. keep in mind the last two years of the trump administration we had stability in afghanistan. for the last 18 months -- >> critics are critical of this report for a lack of accountability. but it's worth pointing out president biden did accept responsibility the same day that 13 americans were killed in a bombing at kabul airport's abby gate. >> set a deadline, you pulled troops out, you sent troops back in, and now 12 marines are dead. you said the buck stops with you. do you bear any responsibility for the way things have unfolded in the last two weeks? >> i bear responsibility for fundamentally all that's happened of late. >> and so he said that at the

time, but that kind of sentiment is missing from this report, which kind of rounds up the defining foreign policy issue of this administration so far. even though it has been such an important part of biden's term, he hasn't said anything about this. he remains at camp david for easter weekend. dana? >> peter doocy at the white house, thank you very much. joining for more, charlie hurt, a fox news contributor. jessica tarlov, democratic strategist, cohost of "the five." charlie, listening to general keane, he was on earlier this morning. >> you can't now come back and try to remake this in front of the american people. they saw it for what it is. regardless of what their view was on stay, leave, afghanistan. our allies saw it. they felt humiliated by the united states. they have felt the united states is weak. they've been coming for us ever since.

>> so on the merits, charlie, i would love to get your thoughts on that, but also just to point out to everybody, joe biden's poll numbers went down by 20 points after afghanistan. and they've never really recovered. >> yeah. no. and i think that general keane is right, people do see it for what it is. this report, you know, you can't help -- it really does sort of smell like political whitewashing, which is, i think, you know, appalling, especially considering the ramificationses of it, what happened that day. also, you know, there's no issue that joe biden owns more, you know, completely than afghanistan. he was on the foreign relations committee. he was chairman of the foreign relations committee. his area of expertise in washington for 50 years has always been foreign policy. he was picked by barack obama to be vice president because he knew his way around afghanistan. to fast-forward to today, to have him dust his hands off, because it's politically

inconvenient -- >> i think it's more than that, charlie. he's trying to dodge all of this. went to camp david as soon as the report came out. kirby came out in the briefing room by himself. he's going to ireland next week. who knows, it might be out of the headlines next week. maybe they find a way to put trump back into the headlines. >> yeah. it underscores politically what a dangerous situation this is, especially when you look around the rest of the world, what's happened since then, you could make the argument that everything we've seen since then has been a response to the perception in the world that the united states is really weak. >> hmm. >> well, the agreements with conditions, and that was up to the taliban, the government, and kabul, to figure that out. it wasn't a hard and fast deal. >> no. >> at least that's what it says in print. >> it was the makings of a deal. president biden's cabinet, the generals were very clear, they

advised him against this. not they advised him against the end result, which everybody wanted. we wanted to get out of afghanistan. 20 years was enough. the way it was executed was roundly criticized by even some of president biden's closest allies, people who had been at his side for decades. i think -- we discussed this yesterday on "the five," dana -- leading with the term proud misses the point. you lose 13 service members. you can be proud of the aspects of how it was handled. i mean, it's the biggest airlift in history. that's a big deal. i think that admirable kirby was right to lead with those things, but to say proud, everybody is turned off. i wonder if they will try to execute a shift where afghanistan will matter less than the war in ukraine, which president biden has been leading on. >> it all depends, though, because, remember, the dod tested last week at congress and said within six months there

could be an attack. >> an attack. >> let's talk about 2024, then. cnn had a poll yesterday. i don't think the white house would have liked it very much. do you think joe biden deserved to be re-elected or not? no. 67%. that's adults. that's not likely voters, right? but that's where it is. >> yeah. we shouldn't spend so much time about donald trump, and talk about the effect of trump on the republican primary. i think people are losing sight of that. these numbers are devastating. i have a hard time -- i can't think of a -- you know, jimmy carter in 1980 was not looking at numbers this bad within his own party. i think that we're missing the bigger story here, which is you're looking at an incumbent who is going into re-election more vulnerable than probably anybody we've ever -- we've seen in modern times. >> in the meantime you got this republican battle that may or may not play out, depending on

what ron desantis does, what trump does, etc., etc. desantis' team is taking the long road on this. that's what they're saying. multiple conversations about delegates, how they are picked in various states across the country. one thing we've looked at, trump can be beat on the delegate portion of this. he's never been good at that. if i'm desantis, getting in this race, i lose ohio and new hampshire, i want a strategy for the long run, taking us back to 2008, between obama and hillary, which i think was probably, in modern times, the best example of how a delegate fight plays out. >> definitely. also how a primary should be handled, where earn came together at the end of it, and became part of his administration. desantis' team is moving ahead as planned. i don't know when he will announce. this is an incredibly fraught time for what's going on with republicans. asa hutchinson is the only person who has criticized donald

trump, saying he shouldn't be in the race anymore, since he's under indictment. he made clear before that, he didn't think donald trump should be the standard-bearer for the party. >> he may not crack 1%. >> of course. it's important people pushing back on folks in this race, not cracking 1%, or barely hanging on for dear life down there. to say the odds are it's not going to be you, so what next? what's the best approach to use if donald trump shouldn't be the nominee? what are you guys going to do to save the republican party from -- if you look at the last set of election results, 2020 and 2022, if donald trump is at the top of the ticket, certain death. >> nikki haley put up strong funding numbers. she might not be getting as much attention as desantis, certainly not, right, but her fundraising numbers were pretty good. this is her yesterday at a rally. >> we're going to have to leave the baggage and status quo and the drama of the past, and we're going to have to focus on what

it really takes to win. in order to do that, that's going to require a lot of courage. courage for me to run, courage for every one of you to understand don't complain about what you get in a general if you don't play in this primary. >> she's continuing on. >> yeah. she's soaking up all of the political establishment money that doesn't like trump. there's no doubt among the political establishment they're dying for trump to go away. they'll do anything for trump to go away. i think that money situation for her gets more difficult as more people get in. you know, ron desantis, is he establishment, is he not? he's on the bubble. but the establishment will go with rosily if the alternative is between him and trump. but i still think that, you know, for the vast majority of republican voters, who don't pay, you know, super close attention to this, they're disgusted by politics, and they're disgusted by the republican party, that their

opinion is getting shortchanged, just because they're not paying close attention to all this stuff. my sense is that there's still a tremendous, you know, dissatisfaction with everything establishment on the republican side. at the end of the day once you start tacking up -- you know, talking about a long delegate fight, going from state to state, i think when voters start checking in, i think you'll see that there's still probably -- there's still an enormous amount of support for trump. >> let's leave it there. thank you, charlie. nice to see you. jessica, thanks for coming in. have a blessed weekend. jim jordan demanding answers on the trump investigation. he's subpoenaed the former new york county special da mark pomeranz to appear before a committee deposition.

in protest after da bragg initially refused to move forward with trump's prosecution. of the we're live on that story in d.c. griff, good morning. >> you got it right, bill. good morning. this is chairman jordan's first subpoena related to the investigation and indictment of former president trump, comes after pomeranz refused a request to voluntarily cooperate with the committee. now in a letter accompanying this subpoena to pomeranz yesterday, jordan emphasized his unique role in the investigation, noting his previous public disclosuring of information, adding to this, quote, you have no basis to testify about matters before the committee you've already discussed in your book and/or on a primetime television program. as you mentioned, bill, pomeranz resigned in protest, specifically because da bragg initially refused to prosecute trump, but now bragg is coming to pomeranz's defense yesterday, releasing a statement, blasting jordan's subpoena, saying it interferes in an ongoing

criminal matter, adding, quote, the house gop continues to try to undermine an active investigation in a new york criminal case with an unprecedented case of harassment and intimidation, repeated efforts are an abuse of power and want deter us from upholding the law. we spoke to ben klein who had response to bragg. watch. >> it's clear. he's admitted to using federal dollars, tax dollars, to -- in his office, in his investigations, into donald trump. so we want to get to the bottom of how american tax dollars are being used for political prosecutions in the new york da's office. >> meanwhile, jordan has floated the idea of subpoenaing bragg himself, but we've not seen that come yet. bragg has refused to come voluntarily. we'll see where it goes. bill? >> thank you, griff. meanwhile, breaking news right now. the tennessee black caucus holding a news conference on two

expelled democratic members. so they're talking about this back and forth with republicans and democrats in the state capitol building. so we're watching that right now. two have already been officially kicked out. but just under tennessee law, they can be appointed back to those positions, or they could run again. we don't know how it will turn out in the end. republicans were ticked off about the gun protests that went on in the capitol earlier this week, and they're trying to sort that out. watching that. in the meantime here's the sheriff from 30 minutes ago. >> i'm so so proud of my guys and girls. >> we just watched a remarkable news conference out of florida. sheriff billy woods, not only announcing arrests in the killings of three teenagers, but lashing out the factors he says are driving kids to violence.

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>> because they took a life. the are y'all comprehending that? they took a life without thought. they deserve the full extent of the law. do i have to spell it out to you? what do you think they were doing? they're associated with a gang. gangs don't go to church on sunday and then preach the gospel for the next six days. they're gangs because they

commit crimes. >> marion county sheriff billy williams with a riveting -- billy woods, i believe -- news conference minutes ago. all three victims were found shot to death in different locations. ted williams was there. give us an update, maybe a comment on the sheriff, who gave a remarkable press conference. >> well, i'd like to start off with the sheriff. yeah, dana, sheriff billy woods, a father, the sheriff of the marion county sheriff's department here in ocala, that, was very emotional. he's been working on this case since last thursday when they found the first body of layla silvernail by a dumpster. what sheriff woods was able to tell us very clearly, all the

individuals knew each other for a short period of time. it appears as though the shooting took place by a dumpster, where they found layla's body. the next day, on friday, they found a body of a teenage boy. then on saturday they found another body submerged in a car. they were able to connect it to three individuals. they have in custody two individuals. one individual is on the run. i believe they'll find him, find him very shortly. they are pursuing him. clearly they're asking for the public's help. seems as if the public has been very helpful to the authorities in this case. dana? >> ted williams, thank you for being there with us. we'll check in as there might be more news today. thank you. >> what a story that's become.

democratic lawmakers ramping up calls for tighter supreme court they cans code after a report that justice clarence thomas accepted undisclosed luxury trips from a billionaire republican megadonor. there's no evidence thomas violated any rule or law, but senator dick durbin saying that the highest court in the land shouldn't have the lowest ethical standards. shannon bream joins us. good morning to you. back and forth on this yesterday. different views on it. how do you see it? how will it play out? >> the supreme court justices are a unique group of people in many ways, but including they don't have a federal they cans code like federal judges do. the if somebody claims a conflict of interest in a case they're hearing, only they can recuse themselves. by the way, the thomass are longtime friends, decades back, with harlan crow, with his

family and friends, and have traveled together over the years. disclosure rules say if you have hospitality gifts, things like food and lodging at a friend's home, at a person's home, that's exempt in some ways from reporting. critics are pointing to issues about private jet travel, those kind of things, whether they have to report them. it's a very gray area. but it is mobilized talk again on capitol hill about finding a different way to crack down on the justices. we'll see if there's bipartisan hunger to do so. >> shannon, based on your experience in covering the court, i mean, if the journalists at propublica, if they looked into other justices, how they spend their time off, would they have found something similar? >> it's possible. sometimes you travel with friends, and sometimes those friends are wealthy. when it's somebody that's active in politics, is a donor, that raises red flags, people have questions about that.

propublica did a particular dive on this justice. if a deep dive investigation, it raises questions. >> a legal expert from nyu school of law, saying if it comes from a person, not a corporation or business, it was personal hospitality, and did not need to report it. if you're going to change the rules for the supreme court, by which the justices are required to obey, does congress do that? when was the last time that happened? republicans leading the court, leading a majority in the house. is this the time to do that or would it be considered unlikely? >> the last few months they've updated the protocols for how they have to report things. listen, congress always wants to get involved with the judicial branch in a situation like this, because they do control funding for the judicial branch. that's when you have the hearings each year, they ask for

the allotment they need for the judicial branch, that members will talk about things they want, you know, like maybe changes these laws, these rules, ethics canons, things like that. they have ways to control the pocketbook and control the process. >> what's coming up sunday? >> senator bob cardin and from the other side of the aisle, senator lindsey graham, the disastrous withdrawal from afghanistan. and we have a debt ceiling nobody seems to be negotiating over, ai, whether robots are coming to take our jobs, but also kill us. >> shannon, have a blessed easter. thank you. >> you too. thank you guys. >> all right. texas governor greg abbott announcing new initiatives to try to fight back on the

fentanyl crisis as part of one pill kills campaign. check it out. >> fentanyl is killing more texans than ever before. the more than five people in texas losing their life every day because of fentanyl. >> well, there's the man there. here's the governor now. he'll join us to talk about how he will succeed on this coming up.

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multimedia awareness campaign, and a plan for narcan in all 254 counties. the governor is with me now. governor, thanks for your time. it's an interesting project. i want to share with viewers what your state has been through. last year, more than 2,000 lives lost to fentanyl in texas alone. your state has experienced a 500% increase in fentanyl-related deaths since 2019. a lot of that has to do with the cartels and stuff coming across the border. sir, what do you hope to get done here? >> well, listen, we're focused on first the victims and then the perpetrators of the crime. but to show you the magnitude of what texas is dealing with, texas law enforcement alone has seized enough fentanyl in our state that would be enough to far more than kill every man, woman, and child in the united states. it's on the streets and rampant in the state of texas. there are so many victims of this crime who are taking pills that are completely unaware that

fentanyl is laced on to those pills by mexican drug cartels. so we need to be involved in an education program across the state. we've been doing this so far. we haven't penetrated enough to college students, high school students, young adults, taking these pills completely unaware that one pill can kill them, which is. >> we have the one pill can kill campaign, using $10 million for a multi media advertising campaign across the state so we can do more to reach more people to let them know if they take one pill they can lose their life. >> and operation lonestar. i'm not sure what the distinction is here, but it's full offense. okay? you're about to finish your thought. let me share this. law enforcement seizures of fentanyl since 2021, enough to kill every man, woman and child in america.

under operation lonestar, texas alone seized more than 380 million lethal doses of fentanyl. you can't get your arms around that. in the '80s, decades ago, you had don't say no. where is the national appeal to include texas and others about the dangers here, governor? >> so there must be a national appeal, because, as you might imagine, when fentanyl comes across the border, it does not stay in the state of texas. it goes throughout the entire country and other states are facing this same problem. so there must be a national campaign, like there had been in the past, about the dangers of alcohol while driving or the danger of drugs, and the just say no campaign, things like that. this may be the beginning of a national effort to educate the public about not just the danger but the deadliness of what we're dealing with. >> have you reached out to the white house? if you did, what -- >> we have not.

put it this way, i reached out to the white house eight different times about doing more to secure the border, and they never even responded. seems like they're not returning my phone calls these days. but i will tell you this, this is a bipartisan effort in the state of texas. we'll be passing laws in the state of texas on a bipartisan basis that will really crack down on the people causing this crime. for example, we are going to classify fentanyl overdoses as poisonings, and classify those who provided the fentanyl-laced pill as murderers. so we will be prosecuting people for murder in the state of texas. this will be laws, passed on a bipartisan basis. so this has appeal across the political spectrum, and across the united states. we hope that other states, and the country as a whole, will adopt what texas is doing, and that's working more to educate the public and to crack down on the criminals who are selling these pills. >> i wish you the best of luck,

governor, especially with trying to get the message to teenagers. thank you, sir. have a blessed easter weekend. >> you too. happy easter. >> thanks. >> chuck schumer and mick mcconnell condemning the detainment of the "wall street journal" reporter, demanding his immediate release. they say russia gave him permission to work there as a journalist, and moscow has provided no credible evidence general mjustifying his arrest. they're adding their names. hopefully he will get home soon. >> they started a social media campaign, if you subscribe to the "wall street journal," or even if you don't, you can share his story for free. donate a paywall. all you need is a hashtag. i encourage folks to help. every time you send it out it helps the cause. >> absolutely it does. >> we're on that. meanwhile a potential major shift, dana, in u.s. strategy ontiwaun. could putting american boots on

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>> so speaker mccarthy and yourself have said that multiple times now, that we need to arm taiwan now before there's any sort of invasion. the what about u.s. troops? >> then you're talking about an authorized use of military force that would come out of my committee, or a declaration of war, which we haven't utilized since world war ii. >> would you support that? >> i think if china, communist china, invades taiwan, i think that is certainly -- the american people support this, that congress will follow. >> house foreign affairs chairman, michael mccall, open to sending american troops to fight in taiwan.

we have an exclusive report from taipei. good morning. >> good morning, dana. good to see you. this is different from what we heard right before the war on ukraine when lawmakers were very adamant there would be no u.s. troops, no boots on the ground. now we're learning it's a possibility when it comes to taiwan. in my exclusive interview with chairman mccall, he tells me sending american men and women to war is the last resort, conflict is the last resort. deterrence is key here, but authorizing war powers is not out of the question. >> so you're saying the option to authorize war powers is on the table? >> if communist china invaded taiwan it would certainly be on the table, and something that would be discussed by congress and with the american people. are they prepared to do this? is taiwan worth it?

i can argue for a lot of reasons why it is. >> he's been leading a three-day bipartisan delegation to taiwan, focused on arming taiwan to deter moves by beijing. today he met with taiwan's equivalent of house speaker, who told fox, he would welcome u.s. troops if china were to invade. the group will meet with president tsai later tonight, who just met with house speaker mccarthy in california. when i asked him why he wasn't in person to meet with president tsai, that the reason was sensitive, but did believe there were plans in place for a visit in the future. dana? >> thank you. in a major newspaper in a democrat-led city sounding the early la. san francisco, "the chronicle" says in an editorial that the city's future is on the ropes. the reason?

postpandemic woes stemming from office workers staying home instead of commuting into the city, could cut san francisco's tax base, decimate regional transit systems, like batter, bart, andtrap it in a death spi. hmm. who knows. they're the only city facing this, but they seem to be in dire straits. >> it's interesting, because i read the editorial from the "san francisco chronicle," and they're right, you have to do think what you're going to do with the empty office space. we see it in new york and other big cities. "for lease" signs and commercial real estate, and they're saying it should be repurposed to multifamily homes, which is a barrier in terms of the homeless crisis, but the other thing they don't address is the rampant crime. the reason people don't want to go back into san francisco, because they get carjacked, they get mugged. violent crime is up. you know, like in portland and

here in new york, they're not prosecuting violent offenders. if these violent offenders, just a few of them, go out and reoffended, and hurt people, and get put away for a while, then they get a desk ticket, they're out again to reoffended, rape and harm, and that is what making san francisco so unlivable. >> yeah. there was a real estate study that found almost 25% of the people living in san francisco want to move out. they want to leave. i don't know if it's accurate or not. came from redfin, away. >> check with u-haul. people are getting out as fast as they can. >> "wall street journal" polling finds that if you're 65 or older, they found that three-quarters of the people say that hard work is important to them. among 18 to 29-year-olds, however, only 61% said hard work is important. the suggestion is, if you're working in the hr department, maybe hire older people than

younger people. >> this trend has been on the rise, because we hear about all the silicon valley companies, the perks they give people, bars and saunas, you know, massage tables. they're shutting that stuff down. that's what younger workers kind of expect. like, you know, what's in it for me? whereas older workers, who were raised in a meritocracy know that the harder you work the better life is for you. they want to work hard, keep working. ageism claims are down about 45% in hr offices across the country, because they want those workers who are desperate to work. i had a mom a couple years ago, in her late 40s, say that headhunters are now coming for women our age because we no longer have the day-to-day obligations to our kids that we did when we were in our 30s. women in their late 40s and 50s, they are now prime real estate, because they know they're creative, hungry, work harder than anyone, and that's a huge asset to these companies. >> i don't know if a sauna is a

good idea. >> yeah. >> maybe pull back on that. >> kennedy, great to see you. happy easter. >> thank you, kennedy. faith used to be a bedrock of our country, but a new poll shows more people are staying away from religion. on this good friday, we'll take a look at why coming up. ♪ limu ♪ hey, man. nice pace! clearly, you're a safe driver. you could save hundreds for safe driving with liberty mutual. they customize your car insurance so you only pay for what you need! [sfx: limu squawks] whoo! we gotta go again. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪

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people have lost faith in institutional leadership in general operating with political and religious. the problem is, to some extent, it's been reduced to follow me because i hate to see people you hate or i fear the same people you fear and that is terrible leadership. a leader who has to have an enemy in order to lead is a bad leader. and as christian as a faith community we should know better because jesus christ was sure clear about this. and his message was just because someone considers you your enemy you do not have to return the favor. and we have about ten campuses spread across the elana area and we have thousands of millennials in genji, and what we discovered is when people opened the gospel they see a differentiation between the type of leadership we see in our country and the type of leadership we see in our churches so consequently they are kind of done with institutional religion and its employees institutional politics. so it's a leadership problem, a messaging problem, and a good news especially in a weekend like this one, is that not only

modeled the answer but provided the answers while. >> harris: everything that we have is that in some ways in th. they tailor an epidemic of loneliness you know that loneliness is a big problem. if there's somebody watching today who is feeling lonely but cannot charge provide for them? maybe they might feel like i haven't been in it forever and maybe i wouldn't be welcomed or is just too hard to take that first step to get into the church what would you say? the >> : i go anyway because any person you walk into the church is probably struggling with the same thing. and again, part of the divisiveness in our country because of leadership is that people are looking for the purpose church the perfect leader the perfect perfect perfect, they have cancer culture as you know. and catch a culture low with the of the entire culture or you have a habit of canceling churches and our denominations because it is one thing no one think one person and consequently we are giving up on the institution in our country

that offers immediate community and the safest community and should be the healthiest community. it's also people all the time you should just go to church. i invite people every single week and i say come sit with me and i mean literally just come to our church and come sit with me. strangers, people have just met, come sit with me because the church or solution in many cases to the issue in the epidemic as you say of loneliness and, it is an epidemic. on the four social media these days contribute to that, but the church, a local church even a imperfect local church offers a solution to that issue. >> in these last few seconds are you hopeful as we head into the easter we can? >> absolutely. because this is the day of hopelessness with jesus christ followers are all unfollowed and give up hope. and then three days later came alive back hope and absolutely, this is the hoop range and find hope this weekend, and i hope everyone this week you can find

a local church even if you haven't been in years. >> thank you pastor stanley and happy easter to your voice your voice. thank you. >> before we go -- we want to say i have something for you, i lit a surprise for you, courtesy and the easter bunny. is there more of an american classic than that image. >> i mean he went to day care yesterday that sig picture we got back he was having fun. before happy easter to you my friend and my aren't brother in arms here. happy easter to you jillian. and to you guys as well. well. >> harris: thank you dana that this is fox news alert major push back against the new report the president biden's afghanistan withdrawal particularly it is timing. the little white house is pointing fingers and shaky responsibility for the tragic loss that accompanied the operation. this is "the faulkner focus" and i'm generally in filling in for harris today. the 12 page after