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of accountability. the 11 marines murdered that day have not been answered for. >> anyone who doesn't agree with it is going to be sidelined. >> a new house subcommittee on the origins of the coronavirus. >> republicans say emails showed the lab leak theory was suppressed by fauci. >> i don't think very many people in america knew what gain of function research is but that's mad science. >> author of goose bumps accusings author editing his books to include more inclusive language. >> i never changed a word of "good bumps" ♪ i want to put on my boogie boogie shoes just to boogie with you ♪ >> brian: people say where cincinnati come from sin that the tuesday great philosopher 519 great year. selfless devotion to the public stood out. since his achievements have been

embellished and lot of our founding fathers took his philosophies and brought them into our republic, i will say this. i would love to be a philosopher but it doesn't pay well. very few philosopher positions opening except for professor of philosophy. right? >> steve: you think got into the it for the money? >> look philosophy was like a high profile position. sock creates, play-doh. >> steve: hey play-doh here is a dollar. >> socrates never wrote anything down. he wrote down what scrots said. >> ainsley: midnight in paris where he goes, what is that actor's name? >> brian: denzel washington? are. >> ainsley: he was in owen wilson, thank you ladies in the back. so he goes to paris and midnight

he goes back in time to like 1890s when all the impressionists and artists and all the great writers and sit at cafe margo and just drink. >> brian: those were the days. >> ainsley: drink, smoke cigarettes and come up with ideas. >> brian: get paid? >> ainsley: nothing. they make money after they die? right all the paintings were masterpieces. >> brian: paint guys thinking. that's where the money is paint the guys that think. that's where the money is learn to paint smart people. >> steve: that's right. that's because on his head stone it says aristotle i'm just an idea guy. >> brian: no last name. >> ainsley: i'm just glad that brian thinks that he is at that level that he could be a philosopher if he could only make money. >> brian: 401(k) and benefits. >> steve: started with the predicate a lot of people want to know where cincinnati came from which named me one person who asked you where it came

from. >> brian: i would love to but we have to. >> steve: that's okay. we have got two hours. >> brian: that's not nice. no one i can think of right now. >> some people say. >> is he such a philosopher, can he read our minds, too. he knows where that name come from. >> brian: meanwhile now back to the show as scripted. mexican government working to hunt down a high ranking cartel leader that looks like that. wanted in connection with a hostage situation that left two americans dead just 30 miles south of texas. >> ainsley: the search comes as a family member of a surviving victim speaks out. >> steve: lucas tomlinson is live in washington, d.c. with the latest on this case that has gripped the nation. >> notable the mexican government has reward for cartel leader but the u.s. government does not. at least not yet and, of course, that could change. right now the reward stands at 2.5 pazos that's about 140 grand

in u.s. dollars. a cousin of one of the surviving ambushed in mexico spoke to the media. >> thought of her coming over here, did that worry you at all at any pointed? >> no it didn't worry me, you know, i'm thinking everything should be okay. when i first saw the video i was in shock. >> senator rick scott says quote for too long biden's botched border policies have prioritized criminals and cartels over legal immigration in american safety. dictators, cartels and bad guys around the world know biden is a weak appeaser with open border policies. yesterday at the white house the press secretary was asked about the cartels being potentially labeled as terrorist groups like isis as some are called for on capitol hill labeling them as cartels would not grant us additional authorities that we have at this time. authority specifically

designated to combat narcotics trafficking organization. again, we don't believe this will grant us any additional authority. >> and here is senator lindsey graham. >> you are allowing safe havens for these groups to operate with impunity your country being used by narco terrorist to poison america. we need to unleash the fury of the united states on these narco terrorists and we are going to do it. >> we heard something similar yesterday on martha mccallum's show the story bill barr wants to unleash a special operations task force on the cartels in mexico much the same way u.s. forces huntinged down and killed cartels in colombia. >> steve: thank you, lucas there is a lot of frustration. i understand why senators two of them and one roger, let's see where was it, two senators,

roger marshall and rick scott are both calling for the designation of making them terrorist outfits which then they could go in -- you know, if it's a mile or two into mexico and american lives aret stake you would think that the mexican government would be okay with helping them but, that would be -- then our people would be on their territory. >> ainsley: hopefully mexico would work with us. they will lose a lot of money. tourists are already talking about this, should we cancel our three-point mexico. talking to one of our security guards has a trip planned with his family. should i cancel that now. are we safe there? they are going to lose a lot of money. we need mexico to work with us rindz is i graham's plan he represents south carolina these four are from south carolina. look, they are going to kill our americans when we go down to visit? american children, something

needs to be done to close the border be able to get these bad guys doing this to americans down in mexico the white house. because the president doesn't really speak. >> ainsley: alternative plans. >> brian: senators trying to set policy going to do it. senator lindsey graham with all good intentions is a minority in the senate. just one voice. you need some democrats equally exercised. senator bennet was seemingly on the same page. we will see what actually will be done. the thing that will get mexico's attention to your point is tourism. if the americans stop coming, they will u seems the cartels ae as powerful as the government. they literally would be in a draw if they fought. it's unbelievable to think and also there are so many reportedly people in the government financed by the cartels, maybe the u.s. could go in there, hey, no one invited us

into syria but isis is there so we went. >> steve: one of the people going down there in the white minivan went for a tummy tuck. do you know how many people in the united states go to mexico for medical tourism? >> ainsley: sure is a lot. how much? >> steve: 1.2 million americans go down there because mexico actually advertises we can save you 80% on whatever procedure you want in the united states. >> ainsley: do not do. this. >> steve: come on do. this. >> ainsley: i watched botched a girl had four procedures in mexico. wenkts for one small procedure and he talked her into a bunch. how much did you pay for those three or four procedures? she said $6,000. which would have been $100,000 probably in our country. >> brian: you get what you pay for. >> ainsley: totally, you don't even want to see the pictures. it was awful. they had to totally completely reconstruct her body. >> brian: dan crenshaw talk about this and so much more.

dan crenshaw will be with us shortly. a lot happened yesterday. a lot happened today by the way. do the twitter files matt taibbi and michael shellenberger and others. the origins of the virus was brought up. where did it come from and why was anthony fauci so dug in when it was not from a lab leak? and what was happening behind the scenes? very few people know talk to robert red field excluded from the small network of people who were trying to find out the origin of the virus and how to treat it. >> ainsley: he was the direct director of the cdc. >> brian: did president trump even know about this. if redfield picked up the phone and said i'm not in on the decisions will that be okay? >> ainsley: he was shut out completely. >> brian: here he is. >> on february 1st, fara convened a meeting of 11 top scientists across five time zones and asked dr. fauci to join and he wrote, quote. my preference is to keep this group really tight. obviously ask everyone to treat in total confidence, unquote.

dr. redfield, you were excluded from this call. >> i felt it was not scientifically plausible that this virus went from a bat to humans and became one of the most infectious viruses that we have in humans. >> why do you think you were excluded from those calls. >> because it was told to me that they wanted a single narrative and that i obviously had a different point of view. this was a narrative that was decided that they were going to say this came from a wet market and do everything they could to support it to negate any discussion about the possibility that this came from a lab. >> steve: right. he had a different narrative, dr. redfield did, and that's why he was excluded. >> ainsley: they even told him that he said. >> steve: absolutely. this is the actual narrative we know for sure. the u.s. government funded, in part, the lab. right? exactly. fauci knew that. what if it were revealed it came from the lab and fauci knew that? well, think about the legal exposure the united states

government and everything else. why is the united states government not pushing china? we probably don't want them to say yeah, it came from a lab. brian. >> ainsley: a lot of truth. >> steve: we just want to know 7 million people around the world died. did it come from a lab? two weeks ago, the energy department here in the united states said yes. about 10 days ago the fbi director said yes. we just need to know more stuff about it. redfield yesterday said yes. dr. jamie metzl, democrat worked for joe biden. >> brian: on our show a lot. >> steve: he said he favors the lab leak simply because china is completely stonewalling. if china wanted us to know, they would say okay. come on. let's figure this out. so much is on the line. of course they haven't done that. >> brian: if you were jamie metzl and worked for the bill clinton administration. is he democrat. nobody at cnn and msnbc or any other networks had any interest in hearing his point of view. he would come on here because we would listen to his point of

view and he had so many questions. he said for the first time in his lifetime there was no counter opinion when it comes to science. no sense of what do you have? show me what you have. no sense of collaboration he thought there is something up with that. and to see that robert redfield was as isolated as other people on social media don't have his credentials who thought there was something up with the wuhan virus or had a question about masks or a question about the vaccine. it really started in the -- with anthony fauci when he decided my way or the highway. and if you don't agree, you are not going to be included. >> ainsley: i think this is another reason why a lot of people have trouble with trusting the government. because the government is telling you one thing, then we hear soundbites like that saying i was not invited to be part of the discussion because i have a different view fauci wanted it one way or the highway and he blocked everyone out that didn't think the way he did. so we don't ever get the truth. turns out he is involved in gain

of function research, turns out he might have been. >> brian: is he -- whole battle with rand paul. >> ainsley: had a great reputation with all of his work with aides and hired to help with coronavirus but then he is also been involved in these labs and making sure grants, american dollars go to certain labs. so he is involved in all of that but now he is the one in charge of telling us the origins of the virus. it sounds like a conflict of interest to me. a lot of speculation. as brian mentioned twitter today. meanwhile time for some news and ainsley joins us with news about that railroad guy. >> ashley: ainsley was. >> steve: ashley. >> ashley: good morning to all three of you start with norfolk southern. the ceo is testifying before the senate today about safety conditions following the fulks toxictrain derailment showing te

symptoms residents are experiencing with the most common being headaches. meanwhile the feds are investigating another incident with the railway, a possible mishandling of hazardous materials in north carolina. police in panama city beach, florida, are cracking town on bring break drug use. the department doubling its pack of police dogs also using surveillance cameras as the influx into america puts spring breakers at risk. last year during spring break panama city police made 160 arrests in just one weekend. a couple ticketed by police after this wild crash in colorado say that it was caused by a pothole. a man and his fiancee were driving along a mountain road when their trucking camper trailer spun out of control causing this major accident. they were cited for reckless driving even though the couple says they were not breaking any laws, highway crews patched up a deep pothole in the same area after the crash. unclear if the couple says they hit.

scary stuff. and a woman gets overwhelming response from delta customer service after she claimed the airline badge damaged her new suitcase. the airline offered to replace the bag but ended up sending her 13 new suitcases the frequent flier was impressed by the generosity but sent most of them back. energetic flight attendant on southwest going viral for taking safety instructions to the next level. check this out. >> six emergency exits on aircraft. [laughter] >> two over wing and two doors in the rear of the aircraft. signs overhead and lights on the floor lead you to an exit. >> passengers saying the flight attendant also sang songs and kept up the goofy antics for the entire flight. he has got to stay entertained somehow. >> brian: thank jetblue for getting me home last night. i didn't know this happens. i booked american, they booked jetblue, so i got an american flight budget blue flew it. and when i tried to get on an earlier flight they couldn't

work the 1970s computer to be able to do this. they got four guys pulling together including the pilot engineer to get me on earlier flight half full so i didn't have to wait two and a half hours in the airport. full salute to jetblue. please, secretary burdge, update the computers at the terminals at these airports they are really from the 1970s. >> steve: i think those belong to the airlines. >> brian: no. software from the 70s no. jetblue in the 70s. >> steve: okay, well, let's see. >> brian: russian linked hackers pennsylvania hospital and publishing the naked photos of cancer patients onto the web. the warned the u.s. to be prepared for ransomware attacks like this. senator mike rounds reacts. >> ainsley: plus, more red states putting children's education in parents' hands. the latest wins for school choice ♪ baby you're a firework ♪ come on, let your colors burst ♪ make them go oh, oh, oh

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d.c. >> good morning. >> steve: this is a gross story. this outfit presumably black cat a russian ransomware outfit they asked for like a million bucks and the hospital said we are not going to give you a million bucks. that's probably the right thing to do now these images are out there on the dark web. >> you're right. and look, this is an organization that's -- they are independent contractors, russia hires them once in a while to do their dirty work. they will work for the ira or gru two of the russian organizations that do a lot of the cyber activity. on the side they will also do independent work where they are basically pirating, getting information and doing it exactly for the reason that you say. they are holding stuff for ransom. a lot of it comes because they will get in to a phishing what they call phishing expedition and put out a picture see it on your own or see your name on it

from a buddy and he will say something hey, i should have sent these photos to you earlier. and you look on it and you flip it on and they get into your system with it. that's one of the easiest ways for criminal outfits to do it. once they are in they look for where the money is at. >> steve: here's the frustrating part, senator, this outfit is apparently in russia. we know a couple years ago when the russian ransomware people demanded a big cash payout for the colonial pipeline and then our president, joe biden said, russia, you do that again we're coming after you and we are going to do something bad to you unless you do different -- and he had gradients you can't screw with our infrastructure, you can't do this i think i remember hospitals being part of that nonetheless, if it's clearly from russia and attacking this hospital inside the united states, our federal government should do something. >> well, look, i'm going to separate out the guys on our

frontline that are actually working the cyber operations from the administration. when you make a red line, you have got to be able to follow it up. >> steve: yeah. >> we do have some really good cyber warriors out there. they are actually on the front lines. we do a program called "hunt forward" we use it in other countries and go in there through the department of defense and look through the types of attacks they are doing in other countries. we will then turn around and bring it back and try to improve our defenses based on what we find across in other countries. it's been very successful but still more work to do. you are right, when you make a red line you better be able to back it up and that's one of the challenges we're going to have here with an administration that, you know, people are wondering whether or not they are tough or not. and you know, we pulled out of average in a very poor way. and now we are still having that challenge when it comes to other parts of the world. just after that that putin decided it was safe to get into ukraine. now we have xi jinping looking at taiwan and a lot of that is because they are wondering whether or not this administration would actually

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♪ >> brian: a federal judge dealing a major blow to president biden border agenda ruling against catch and release policy in response to a florida lawsuit which argue wanted the mass release of migrants is unlawful. the judge saying the white house has, quote, effectively turned the southwest border into a meaningless line in the sand by prioritizing alternatives to detention and by releasing more than a million aliens into the country. our next guest filed that lawsuit, florida attorney general ashley moody. you have to feel great about a judge seeing it like most clear-thinking americans see it, especially you. >> this is not just a win for florida. this is a win for our country. to have a judge come in and say what we have been saying all along. in fact, calling the white house out when they said there wasn't a crisis or nothing was going on, a federal judge has now said

basically biden broke the border. his policies, his request for less detention has allowed millions to come in without following federal law and so, again. this is a win for the rule of law which is the basic tenet on which our government by the people is built. >> brian: do you know what is amazing? every time the press secretary or biden official speaks they say we inherited a broken system. >> absolutely false. >> brian: is that the case? >> this proves that in fact one of my favorite lines in this order is when the judge was saying all of the evidence shows biden's policies caused the surge. caused millions to come in. more than some populations of oyou are state and he said, look, you asked for less detention. you didn't follow the law biden and now to blame it on not having those -- the detention is like a child killing its parents and then asking for pity because

it's an orphan. the administration's intention all along has been to destroy the border and leaving our country vulnerable. this is a great win measure our country one of the basic responsibilities of a leader going back for all time is to protect the border where your people live. >> brian: but, ashley, what changes today? what changes now? >> well, federal government said nope, these policies are in blatant violation of federal law. you must follow federal law and secure the border. i can't believe we had to have a state take our president to court to get them to do that but that's what they said. they have paused it to allow them time to appeal. but i am telling you, this has driven me since this president took office. his policies are dangerous as you see. americans are dying. police officers are asked to do incredible things, which we could control if we just secured our border. i will keep fighting this.

governor desantis will keep fighting this. we are in it not just for florida but for the country. >> brian: by the way they say why there is a big surge at the border climate change. that flies in the face of reality and i hope people aren't buying that congratulations on the victory. it's a vic trip for the country. ashley moody thank you so much. >> thank you so much, brian. >> brian: passing school choice laws and empowers parents. west virginia governor jim justice just signed his own school choice bill. he joins us next. ♪ get it wrong rocking ♪ our boots are knocking ♪

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steve today we are going to tell you about a major win for america's school kids. five red states making progress with school choice legislation in each of those five states. >> ainsley: in utah parents are getting $8,000 to use for the school of their choice. in iowa, parents get $7,000

toward private schools. and in arizona, they get $7,000 towards any school or educational cost. >> brian: arkansas extended voucher program school choice by 2025. west virginia is giving students to leave public schools more than $4,000 a year for tuition. that took place in 2021. how is it going? west virginia governor jim justice joins us now. governor, great to see you. everyone is talking about school choice. you were ahead of the game on that. what are the results so far when you signed it into law in 2021 of this? >> brian, i think we have got lots and lots and lots of really good stuff going as far as school choice in west virginia. we're probably leading the nation again, you know, of all places in west virginia. you know, if you think back to 2019, we virtually had no choice in west virginia. but today, you know, we're doing good stuff with our public schools and everything. we're proud of that. but at the same time, we are really proud of the fact that

west virginia you've got a universal choice going on now. lots of different things. parents really involved. good stuff in west virginia. really good stuff. >> ainsley: governor, how many people are taking advantage of this? >> well, it's just in its infancy but literally thousands. and, you know, today we still have about 90% of our students that are involved in public schools but it's literally thousands and especially with the establishment of what we call our hope scholarship and it's, you know, basically an education savings account. but we are going to the maximum dollars that the public schools, you know, that we can give back to the families and everything. unlimited access and everything. absolutely just lots of good stuff. >> that he sounds fantastic. there are people in 45 other states saying wish we had something like that in our state

like they have got in west virginia. unfortunately as you know school unions so powerful it's hard to get this stuff through state legislators. >> well, i totally understand, but i also understand if you are respectful and try to work together absolutely doable all across this country. i understand other states that are envious of what is going on in little old west virginia. are you kidding me? we have tried to be the leader on covid. we are really part tiblegd about sarah huckabee sanders and what is going none arkansas across this nation. our parents need to be involved first and foremost. that's all there is to it.

>> steve: indeed. >> ainsley: let's talk about the tax cuts, too. because west virginians are getting -- you just signed the largest tax cut in west virginia's history. how does this benefit families? what exactly is it? >> well, ainsley, thank you for having me, but basically it's just simply just this totally eliminate our personal income tax. if you look at where west virginia is located. i mean, we started with 21 and a quarter percent reduction. we cut our machine and inventory tax for small businesses by 50%. eliminated car tax in west virginia. and on and on and on. there is so much goodness going on in west virginia and all i have got to say is what i said so many times, look at where we are located. businesses are moving to west virginia like crazy. look at where we are located. look at our four incredible seerches. look at the people of west virginia and their values. you know, we know the difference between right and wrong. we are not just out to say we

want to do what we can get by with. and then in west virginia you have got so much goodness going on right now. it's a happy day in west virginia and i'm really, really proud. >> brian: your approval ratings are sky high to the point where people are thinking you are going to run for senate against joe manchin and a few of the polls you are up about 20 points against joe manchin, are you considering running and, if so, when would you make that decision? >> well, brian, i'm seriously considering. you know, and whether people buy it or not, my dad would always say the good lord knows and you know, son, that's all that really matters. at the end of the day, i am a patriot. i'm a real patriot. and i'm worried about our country. and that's not hogwash. that's not political hogwash and everything. i am worried about our country. and that's the only reason that i would run for the senate. but i am very seriously considering it. and probably in the next very few days i will make an announcement one way or another. >> brian: really.

>> i'm not going to tease people. >> brian: do you think you would win? >> i know i would win. [laughter] >> i mean, that's all there is to it. >> steve: sorry, joe. >> where the people are in west virginia today yeah, i would win, brian. >> steve: when you are ready to declare, come back to "fox & friends," we would love to hear. >> brian: in two days. >> steve: straight from you. >> all right. guys. i can't really hear exactly who is talking. >> steve: it doesn't matter. >> nevertheless, thank you all so much. >> steve: we are all friends. >> do you great work every day. thank you. >> ainsley: governor, thank you. hand it over to ashley for headlines. >> ashley: good morning, guys, five italian restaurant owners are suing michelle wu. the owners say their restaurants on the north end were forced to pay $7,500 outdoor dining fee. but other parts of the city were exempt as part of the mayor's all inclusive boston campaign. nearly 6,000 public schools across the country are reportedly barring teachers from

telling parents which gender their kids identify as in the classroom. a parental rights group found it at least 168 districts hid and hide the gender of more than 3 million public school students. meanwhile in new york, parents on long island are outraged after an assistant superintendent was caught on camera admitting to talking about his sexual identity in classrooms and weeding out conservative job applicants. watch this. >> they indoctrinate the young into a degenerate woke agenda and then he says we need good people. who are good people? we're not good people? conservatives aren't good people? >> ashley: the east meadow school board is promising an investigation. nasa says this week they have spotted an asteroid capable of destroying an entire city and currently headed for earth. they say it could strike on valentine's day 2046 with another fewer take out a city the size of los angeles. scientists say there is really only a small chance that the 165

asteroid could hit earth currently out of 560. the agency is promising to monitor it and make changes to their predictions as needed. money truly can't buy happiness and according to new research our enjoyment comes at a cost of making $500,000 a year. the staggering figure comes from a study by a nobel prize winning economist. contradicts a 2010 study that put peak happiness at $75,000 a year in income. the economist who came up with that smaller figure did conclude, however, that quote, for most people larger incomes are associated with greater happiness. also 2010. inflation. >> steve: exactly. interesting. half a million bucks. all right. thank you very much. >> ashley: you are welcome. >> steve: somebody who brings a smile to our face every day is senior meteorologist janice dean new york city. >> janice: i think my smile is frozen right now. let's talk to some friends. where are you from and what's your name. >> peggy from louisiana.

>> jack from livingston, louisiana. >> janice: say hi to anybody at home. >> madeline and jacob. stay home. >> i'm matt from minnesota i want to say hi to my wife katie and four kids. caleb, ava and america. >> janice: nicely done. minnesota i got a complaint that you have gotten more snow than decades there. >> it doesn't seem to stop this year. >> janice: take a look at it because there is nor snow on the way. i'm sorry about this. winter has arrived in minnesota and it's not going anywhere. the temperatures are cold in the 30's but it feels like in the 20's and then we have this first storm system that's going to bring more snow to minnesota and the northern plains and the great lakes. and then we have the heavy rain across the south. so we watch this area of low pressure, another system moving into the west coast. it has been epic. they call this an atmospheric river meaning it's like a fire hose with all of this rain and mountain snow for california. and some of that energy travels across country. look at the heavy rain for coastal, california and the snow and then my friends we are going to be talking about a nor'easter on monday for the northeast.

so as you can see. we have a lot to, you know, develop here. we are going to certainly track the latest details and give you the forecast before it happens. how about that? fox weather.com for all of your latest details. i can tell you it will be a big event. it is going to impact the northeast. just how much snow still yet to be determined. >> steve: stay tuned. >> janice: stay tuned, steve, ainsley, and brian over to you. >> steve: run on in. i know you are cold. >> ainsley: listen up, moms, paula ferris is here with her advice to for your busy lives. she is here next. ♪ -i say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you. -i don't feel any different. -i don't need you to feel anything to do great things. (upbeat music) -jesus, if you do not renounce your words,

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>> ainsley: from raising children to building successful careers working mother carrying more than their fair share. in her new book "you don't have to carry it all." paula ferris explains why society needs to value mothers first while offering a game plan that will making a working mom work for you and your family. >> steve: paula ferris joins us live on the curvey couch. good morning to you. >> my first time on the curvey couch.

>> steve: what do you mean when you say moms don't have to carry it all. >> we have been conditioned in this country to believe we have to do it all and carry it all. that's why we are seeing record numbers of burnout in working mothers in america. it is harder to be a mother. it's harder to be a working mom in america than anywhere else. and that's really why i wrote this book. i put my reporter hat on, interviewed all types of experts to figure out how we can give working moms the support they need and deserve and also the why behind it. a lot of people are skeptical why is it my problem. >> ainsley: hard to balance it all. i know you are a woman of faith i talk a lot about that. how do you balance it all being a working mom. balancing the guilt we feel if we can't be in school early in the morning you worked an early show too for years. >> we put so much pressure on ourselves. pumped the brakes 2018 worked at abc. i never felt like i was nailing it. i realize in writing this book

ditch the mom guilt and find a better way forward. i wanted to unpack why we feel this guilt. and i learned in writing the book that mom guilt is really an american thing. it really is it was created here in the united states of america. most moms are feeling it. globally moms don't have a sense of mom guilt. they take a great amount of pride in working because they have to to even have the thought of staying home is really a privilege so my eyes were opened. i realize i had a lot of blind spots when i wrote this book. >> brian: paula, do you want to read an excerpt from your book? >> i want you to read it. i love this excerpt. it's for you. >> brian: for me. >> ainsley: whole chapter on getting dads involved. >> inviting men into the conversation. >> brian: our problem of one of the more pressing ones is there hasn't been enough clarity on what a man's role is n helping gender disparities and lessen the moms carrying it all. thrown a lot of mixed message including they are hardly human beings and the world would be better off without them.

no wonder guys would be a tad hesitant to join us in the battle line. so what are you saying, regardless the outcome is men should do more? >> well, here's the point. this can't just be a bunch of moms say we are marginalized which is true. set me on mission we are paid less and valued less and scrutinized more which once we become mothers if we don't have kids we don't have human race it we don't have labor market if we don't have labor market we don't have an economy. we cannot solve this problem without men. and it was important for me to write a chapter to invite men into the conversation to address some of the toxic messages that you have been hearing, be a real man or a good man. those are two totally different messages or your only value is your paycheck, right? i wanted to address that. i think that men can change the game for gender equality by doing one thing and that's by taking paternity leave. if you don't have it, i think you fight for it. because what it does increases the bond with the kid. it increases the bond with your

partner. and out of the gate it creates a dynamic that levels the playing field and instead of the mother being the default for everything, burnout. it is a level playing field and you are in it together, raising the children together. >> steve: my son just had a baby. >> congrats, grandpa. >> steve: wife is taking her maternity leave and then peter is taking paternity leave after that. >> that's amazing. >> steve: going back to what you were talking about a moment ago mom guilt. tell us what yours is. >> mom was feeling everywhere it's that tension, that constant tension when you are working you feel like you should be mommy. >> steve: i shouldn't be here. >> i'm missing out on all of the moments. this book, i have to say, i hope it's a hug. feels like a hug and sword for moms. yes, we need men in the fight and corporate america to do a lot. i hope it feels like a hug and sword that moms feel seen and herd and not alone in feeling this. i realized, you know, too. i think when you unpack and look at the history and where it

originated and also like working, being a working mom it actually benefits your children. for sons of working mothers they turn out to be great partners and fathers, too. looking at some of the stats and how we got here. knowing you are not alone and seen and heard goes a long way. >> ainsley: shows our children anything is possible. your dreams can come true. >> absolutely. >> ainsley: i have to work i have to pay for your little life. >> not the 50's. most moms work because they have to. 70% of mothers will be the primary breadwinner in their kid's lives if we keep paying them 70 cents on the dollar continue poverty. >> steve: number one in its category. you don't have to carry it all. and thank you very much. >> thank you, guys. >> brian: you are going to love the last hour of "fox & friends." if you balance it out. if you have a balanced life. ♪

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