stories out to you. great reporting my friend. but he is right. the longer these benefits continue, whatever you make of them they're preventing these restaurants from having enough people to deal with the improvement that is real and going on. here comes "the five". >> jesse: i'm jesse waters and greg gut f*eld and others. 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five". the day after the derek chauvin verdict t. former minneapolis officer found guilty for the death of george floyd. now the conversation has turned to police reform. liberals aren't satisfied with the verdict yesterday and are still making calls to abolish the police. earlier today attorney general merrick garland announced a d.o.j. investigation into the

minneapolis police department practices. democratic congresswoman debbie dingell offering a voice of reason as to how the country could move forward. take a listen. >> okay, we've got a problem in this country but we've got to stop taking paint brushes and painting everybody and letting ourselves be falsely pitted. we need racial justice and we need public safety. >> jesse: i think you would agree. that sounds fair to me. the point she was trying to make not all officers are racist. not all blacks are criminals. that is something, you know, that has divided this country over the last couple years. how do you see her comments? >> juan: i this i the congresswoman is exactly right, jesse. i think that there is a real common ground between good policing and racial justice.

and i think that debbie dingell has hit just the right note for everyone. i think for many people the thought is oh, the chauvin verdict is the end of the story. i think it is an opportunity to start a conversation about good policing. i think that's why you see the justice department saying they'll look at the pattern and practice of how the minneapolis police department was being operated. and again the hope is that we're not talking about defunding. we are talking about real practical steps that everybody can get behind and say this will make us safer. that's the goal of policing is pof safer communities. i think the chauvin case did expose what people -- black people specifically had been saying for a long time. that there are instances of police abuse and we saw it on the videotape. that helped to change the conversation so that everyone can see and say i believe my eyes. i just asked people look at the

tape, look at it for yourself and say what i saw was an abuse of power. i saw a man get killed. so now it's a matter of all of us opening our eyes to what people have been saying for years. the statistics clearly show in terms of i think the thousand people killed by police every year, over the last 15 years, only about 100 police officers have been charged with a crime in any of those instances. and only 35 have ever been convicted. most of them not convicted of murder, but of negligence, manslaughter, lesser charges. so now we have a chance to say well, you know what? we need to talk about this because it is not good to have a whole segment of the population feeling that the police are there not to protect them but in fact to harass or abuse them. so i think at this point it is a good point to start the

conversation. let's do it honestly and let's not fall into stereotypes and tropes. >> jesse: i agree. why don't we start that conversation, dana, with some practical examples. there was a situation in ohio last night where 911 call went out. a black teenage girl was about to stab another teenager to death. had the knife like this, wielding the knife, about to stab her to death. wouldn't listen to commands from the officer. white officer responds, shoots the teenager and ends up saving the other teenager's life and that media -- that is framed by the media totally recklessly as again white officer shoots black teenager. that's the headline. i just think you can't have an honest conversation as we all want to if you are just going to irresponsibly depict every officer as a killer. when if you read the paragraph below the headline it is a lie.

>> dana: right. there has been a lot of coverage on this and more to come because i don't know if you saw, jesse, but lebron james decided to posted a picture of the officer and said you are next #accountability. and he has since deleted the tweet but up for quite a long time. what did you mean by that? i thought that yesterday we were talking about the importance of the integrity of jury trials and believing in that institution. in addition, what you had in the chauvin trial, which was a big difference and some of the things juan is talking about in terms of other encounters, you had video. what did you have in columbus? you had video. so it could be that video will at some point you look at the evidence and it will be presented in front of the jury and video these people to say as the prosecution said you can believe your own eyes. that might then work against a police officer. but then you have a situation

like in columbus. i think the police department was very smart to release that video right away. because it also could be a video could show us the entire situation. the split second decision, the situation where another young girl's life was in danger at the hands of another. so all of that could happen. the point of debbie dingell, i think she could be a real leader on this and she is trying. if you remember, though, a year ago when they were running for president and vice president, biden and harris were basically saying that doing nothing in terms of legislation was better than doing something. that is when they used the filibuster to go after tim scott's bill. now perhaps going forward in the spirit of -- that we can all feel today maybe there is a way to revisit that. as i understand it tim scott says they're close on a compromise. they are seeking a path forward. i think we should always hopefully have an open mind and say what they have to say and

get something done this time. >> jesse: i don't know if we will get something done, dagen. the president told the american people last night the black americans are scared to death when they go to the grocery store. i'm not black and maybe i have no idea. could be true. doesn't sound true. i just feel like when you say something like that, i just don't see it. >> the rhetoric coming out of the white house from biden and co is very troubling and jen psaki said about the shooting in columbus. she said she suggested on this explicitly sad it was an illegitimate racist shooting. here is what she said. she was a child. we're thinking of her friends and family and the communities that are hurting and grieving her loss. we know that police violence

disimportant are portion naturally impacts black and latino communities and black women and girls and black men and boys experience higher rates of police violence. it wasn't about a young woman's life being saved. it wasn't about a young woman with a knife in her hand. horrific as it is, the language that is being used by this white house is driving racial divisions even further. and the fact that debbie dingell would have to come out and say what she did shows how far gone this nation is. it is upside down, backwards and broken where the fact that you have to come out and say that we need the police. the police protect us. we need law enforcement. you know, some days ago or years ago it would have been a reasonable and rational thing to say but now it is instead taken as something incendiary and inflammatory.

>> jesse: you reflect on some of the things you've seen and heard. >> greg: just in the last couple of minutes the debate isn't dividing the country. the media narrative is dividing the country. no one is divided over the chauvin verdict. do you know anybody that said that was wrong, i'm really angry? the media cannot take yes for an answer. because once they do, then they no longer have this issue to beat america's head with. so you keep hearing about systemic racism from joe biden who has been an integral part of this system for 50 years. if he believes in systemic racism as he said last night as a stain on america he was there leaving the stain for five decades. before you throw the whole country under the bus as a bunch of redneck racists you have to throw yourself under the bus too. you were right there. you were one of the most powerful people in the country. you could have done something

and you did do some things that were considered racist. you went to a funeral of a kkk dragon. don't talk to us about systemic racism. this is the real problem here. i can't believe this but we're actually creating our own anti-american propaganda. this systemic racist narrative is so destructive that it is actually identical to what china says about us. as recently as in anchorage, alaska. what we're doing, we're doing our enemies work. we are on a path to destruction that is of our own doing. we are doing it to ourselves and it is the opposite of aounfication. it is destruction. the bottom line here is the way the media and democrats have reacted is proof that even if the justice system worked that can't be proof at all because if you say that it undermines the narrative that we are an irreversibly racist company. it will keep happening again

and again and again as you saw with the white house did with the ohio case last night. where that officer might have saved a black girl's life who was being stabbed. what's interestingly enough was not in a lot of the headlines when you read about it. we're in dangerous times here. let's not pretend for a minute that everybody suddenly is ready to have a conversation because the -- people were trying to have this conversation for years. the statistics are obviously being ignored by one side. tens of millions of police stops resulting in maybe four dozen tragic disgusting unarmed men and women being shot. the majority of them non-black. we don't talk about that. that doesn't fit the narrative, right? >> jesse: we're having a good conversation on "the five". i can tell you that. it's true. >> greg: i'm on my meds that's

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>> doug ducey calling out president biden and dechairing a state of emergency at the border sending national guard troops to help deal with the surge of migrants. listen to this. cartels are now recruiting american teenagers to help smuggle migrants. fox news getting an exclusive look at social media ads where cartels offer to pay thousands of dollars. border patrol sources say some of these young adults are using their parents' cars whale their families have no clue. president biden and vice president harris have a clue, where are they? jesse was feeding jesse junior and said president biden should designate the cartels as terror groups. even he says that and then he spit up. that's how simple it is, dagen. because what that does is that allows the department of defense to conduct offensive

operations within mexico proper. and when trump threatened to do it mexico snapped to. right now we know the cartels are running mexico. at this point with biden in charge they're almost running the united states of america. if a cartel member slaps a wrist band on a minor's wrist they control them once they're here. they are in debt bondage. they have to work off the debt. no one has $3,000 in guatemala to pay the fee up front. the girls go into prostitution and boys work around the clock in unsafe working conditions. open borders under joe biden would make jeffrey epstein proud. child slavery is going on right under the white house's nose and they haven't done anything about it. >> juan: you know, dagen, where we started was where is president biden? where is vice president harris? i think there is an answer to that question. clearly what we see is that joe

biden wants very much to have an orderly process. so what he is doing is -- by the way a lot of this is being conducted through the vice president -- having talks with those latin american countries but specifically mexico setting up processing centers there so people seeking asylum don't have to think that they have to get into the united states in order to be properly processed and adjudicated. and then also what you have is an effort -- this guy, president biden, the trouble over the weekend to say you know what? we are going to hang with president trump's level of refugees coming into the country because it's a matter of processing. he thinks that the government can't deal with the flow at the border as well as the flow of people who are seeking refugee status. so that to me is somebody, i think, who should be applauded by the right for saying hey look, we want an orderly

immigration process and we are going to have to slow things down. the left went crazy about this, by the way and said why are you sticking with trump's refugee numbers? but the big question becomes where is congress. they're taking selfies? those guys need to get involved. former speaker boehner and former president bush said their big regrets was not passing comprehensive immigration reform in the time they were in power. >> this is two different things. children's lives are being put in danger and facilities filled to the brim of children who have come into this country illegally. immigration reform is one thing but the fact is the reason -- biden and kamala harris have screwed this up so badly we may never get to immigration reform. by the way, senators kelly and sinema back up what governor ducey is doing. >> dana: exactly. the basic need you have in the

country is security and border security is it. the biden administration is trying to change the idea of what bipartisanship. if you look at polls across the country, strong bipartisan majority of people very much disapprove of how they are handling the border. it's as if they want to single handedly turn over the next election to the republicans. you think of the margins they have in the house. they will probably lose 7 to 10 seats in redistricting alone. imagine all of those moderate members, the ones that make up the majority of nancy pelosi's caucus and joe biden's senate. they are the ones that will be in trouble here. on the merits -- i think the white house totally screwed up something, juan. the refugees are a different situation. they go through a background check, they go through it legally and in the pipeline. some of them have plane tickets going to come over. the pandemic changed things, understandable from president

trump. the fact that president biden himself conflated the two and is not sending more troops to the border or national guard troops to the border or more resource. you hear from the governors. the fact is the border patrol officers are getting pulled off of dealing with the border in order to help take care of children. and that's not going to stop. you will not get to dealing with temporary work visa programs if you don't first deal with the border. now they're also trying to actually do all of this through reconciliation? you want to make this issue super political and make sure nobody ever comes together on immigration try to ram this through with 51 votes. >> dana: i want to bring up the rhetoric coming out the anti-american rhetoric sounds like something from the communist party. this is his only immigration strategy. make america sound so racist

and wretched full of white supremacists that nobody would want to come here. >> greg: anti-american rhetoric is being done from the white house. blind blowing. i have to address a great idea for one more thing regular reoccurring segment. jesse junior's thoughts. you could discuss every day jesse could come and tell us what jesse junior feels about climate change, world peace, economic inequality. children do say the most intelligent things. the greatest proof that the dems don't want any progress here is that they are focusing on language as if calling an illegal immigrant an undocumented migrant is going to mean anything to a kid wrapped in tin foil sleeping on a paved floor. that's what they are doing now adjusting the language. what it does is, it only helps the democrats by making them feel good. like they did something. but it actually also replaces actionable ideas for deeds. so the road to hell is not paved with good intentions.

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deal. alexandria ocasio-cortez and others are leading the charge. take a look. >> racial injustice, economic inequality, housing, education, jobs, and climate change. it is all intertwined. >> we'll transition to a 100% carbon free economy that is more unionized, more just, more dignifies and guarantees for healthcare and housing than we've ever had before. that's our goal. >> juan: dana, why all the attention to ed markey and alexandria ocasio-cortez and the green new deal? biden's plan is more moderate and anything that happens will have to go through moderate joe manchin environmental committee in the senate. why pay attention to them? >> dana: i think the people most paying attention to markey and ocasio-cortez are the

republican operatives that will use it as a bludgeon to basically take back the house and attempt to try the take back the senate next year. they learned nothing. nancy pelosi must be absolutely wanting to pull her hair out. then when biden is going to make the pledge tomorrow first of all there is no binding commitment. nothing that says that you have to do it. it's about as meaningful as the paris climate accords. so i don't see that as going too far. look, america has already cut emissions so much through innovation and basically efficiency over the last several years it could be -- you could basically hit that target if the technology is there. >> juan: right. dagen, moody's says that even with the green new deal, you know, at least in terms -- the biden terms as we just heard, far more moderate they are all for it and think it will

produce jobs, it will spur the economy and stock market has been taking off since this was discussed. what do you make of that? >> you know what took off even after president trump pulled out of the paris climate accord? the shale revolution and the production of natural gas. that not only brought energy prices down, it created jobs and prosperity across this country and it also gave us leverage over all the nations that hate us. that we would otherwise have to buy oil from. it is such a clean burning fuel in america our emissions per capita have fallen before the pandemic to the lowest level since 1950. so china is laughing at us. they are producing enough coal powered electricy to power all of germany. they will never honor one emissions goal ever. we are crushing our own economy for what? for green energy. here is your forecast today and

why they stopped calling it global warning. april 21, 2021. freeze warnings from texas to the great lakes. low temperatures engulfing the heartland and indians/white sox game in cleveland had to be postponed for snow and cold. >> juan: greg, i know you are a fan of advanced nuclear energy. he is talking about hydro, improving the electric grid, offering incentives for companies to do better at innovation in terms of generating energy. are you good with this? >> greg: of course, nuclear is probably the end. i've been talking about it forever. the worst part of the green new deal obviously is the cost. and what that cost does to most americans. how much will they suffer with -- if it's $100 trillion or whatever. a question you can't answer. are you talking about lost

benefits which can't be counted that never come to pass so you'll never know. you can look at present day america and go why does our educational system so bad? why does it destroy so many lives? it truly is the systemic evil. you look at the mental health crisis and drug addiction on our streets. our streets are populated by very sick people who are homeless. why does this exist in the greatest country in the world? those are lost benefits because of giant government boon doing also where the money goes away? where does it go the $800 million to mayor deblasio's wife for mental health? the gnb as i like to call it will create so many lost benefits that we'll never be able to count. >> juan: jesse, i remember that ike's secretary got -- general motors and all the auto

companies like this plan. so why the resistance from some on the right? >> jesse: i think they say they like it so they can get government contracts, juan. are you smart enough to know how that game works. i don't mind spending my tax dollars on something to get a little return on our investment here like nasa or the defense department, things that actually help us as americans. but what's the return on investment been for all this green spending in the last two decades? have we lowered the earth's temperature? where are all these green jobs that never materialize? how about the fact that the solar energy component of our energy portfolio went from 0% to just 2% in 20 years. wow, that's pretty robust. dagen nailed it. natural gas is what's reduced emissions. if the left wants to reduce emissions why don't they invest in natural gas. it is clean, it's american and all over the place.

i think greg nailed it. i think maybe in the a block he said i think it was common sense is the enemy of an ideologue because think about how cruel-hearted the green new deal is. you are going to fire frackers and coal miners in west virginia and tell them to go make solar panels? there is no solar energy in west virginia, juan. solar only works in arizona like where get blazing sun and put them over the wide open desert. they don't have that kind of terrain or environment in west virginia. what are they talking about? it's garbage. >> juan: okay, jesse. straight ahead new claims of media bias after a new study says president biden is getting very favorable coverage next on "the five". ♪♪♪

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♪♪ compares how network handled the first 100 for trump and biden. 59% positive coverage for biden and 86%. >> the president is good at articulating empathy. >> almost extensions of joe biden's arms embracing america. >> there is a sense of humanity that he is talking about here saying this is who we are. >> we saw this steely determination and compassion of president joe biden. >> what a great love story between jill and joe biden. we haven't had a love story in the white house in four years. >> he was sleepy joe.

mojo joe now. >> greg: would you like to hear my theory behind the media bias? the media bias story doesn't make a ripple in the media. they don't see the world as left versus right. they see it as right versus wrong. why would you balance your right opinion with the wrong opinion? wrong opinions don't deserve equal time. they do it with climate change and police reform. if you are on the other side you are a denier or racist. there is no equal time. >> dana: the denier piece in particular. watch for that the next 48 hours as the president has the big summit. the other thing they do, greg, is they cherry pick polling data. campaigns do the same, right? they'll look for the best little nugget of their campaign and try to make that a bigger narrative. what they do here, "the new york times." they did this whole thing about infrastructure and they said do

you like what biden is proposing to do with roads and bridges? everyone is like yeah, we love it. and it doesn't say anything else about the fact that it's just a third of the bill. doesn't say anything about all the expansion of other things. the times has this little caveat. the times survey did not ask about other components of biden's plan. that will never make it. that will never make it. >> greg: i went on twitter and jesse junior was on twitter and he tweeted bottom line, journalists have become activists. they don't do stories, they push causes. how old is your kid? it is amazing. >> jesse: he should be napping right now. we'll have to take the phone away from him. you did make a good point at the top about right and wrong. i will have to steal that for waters world and claim it as my own. joe biden deserves very great coverage. he has united the country, extremely empathetic. he doesn't lead and tweet and

created a safe space for us americans to focus on the real enemy, you, tucker, and candace owens. in all seriousness i want to give the media a little lesson in objective journalism. me, jesse watters will deliver this message. you can say you can give joe biden high marks for continuing operation warp speed and the vaccinations. high marks for providing covid relief to many americans but low marks for the border and very low marks for killing jobs in the energy sector. you can say russia has kicked america out of the black sea and has restarted norton stream two and joe biden spent two hours on phone with the chinese leader and never brought up where covid came from. you can objectively criticism and give him high marks. prices are high, bad. joe doesn't have a heavy schedule. one event and day and barely says anything. you have to look at the results

of his policies and that's how you cover him. the results of his policies. >> greg: to jesse's point jesse is saying we look at the deeds. it always feels the democrats just look at the words. so they hated trump's words so much but what we do is we look at the deed. >> juan: you know, yeah, look at the deeds and you understand why biden is getting not only good coverage but the american people. i think it is like 59% approve of him. maybe this is accurate coverage. come on, guys, this is so wild to me. you guys are so ignoring the larger context. remember trump came into office and immediately was telling lies about the size of his inauguration crowd and then there was all the back stabbing and all the leaks coming out of the white house. >> greg: you mean the phony russian story? >> juan: he was feeding the press all of this stuff and don't forget just like baby jesse, he had the phone and 2

a.m. and all the crazy tweets and you cover them, that's negative coverage. what a difference. >> these makeup wearing tv huck steers are the ones that sold the american people this broken man for a president. they have to spend the next 3 1/2 years trying to con those americans into believing biden isn't totally useless. >> greg: the fastest is up next. ♪♪♪ cell phone repair. did you know liberty mutual customizes your car insurance so you only pay for what you need? just get a quote at libertymutual.com. really? i'll check that out. oh yeah. i think i might get a quote.

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>> greg: i think he is wearing it right now. he appears to be in great shape. i don't think this is a way to attract women or men. it is cheap plastic surgery. it is plastic and let's say you actually find a perspective mate to sleep with you. you are going to have to wear that all the time because you don't want to -- you would be guilty of false advertising. i thought about this. >> dana: this feels like it will be a little warm. >> greg: yes. >> you know what? the legs always give you away. you have two popsicle sticks for legs and walking around with that you're busted. >> dana: what do you think, jesse? >> jesse: i was told that dad bods were what women wanted. why do you need a muscle suit? >> dana: doesn't need a muscle suit is juan, right, juan? >> juan: you know the problem with this is you would have to

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here's some wild horses we saw on the shore. here's a selfie we took on the beach. there was also, you should know, i think you would have been great at this, jesse, go-cart riding with the grand kids. they also beat me at miniature golf. here are reagan and morgan. you know, my daughter and daughter-in-law exercising. and here is raffi my son and beautiful dog darcie by the pool. it was the first time indoors together in a very long time due to covid. thank goodness for the vaccine and i hope that the little kid are going to get vaccines, soon. anyway it was a great time. thanks, guys. >> jesse: that looks like fun. and, juan, they didn't beat you. you let them win. that's the line. >> >> juan: oh, no, jesse, it's going the other direction. lafayette. >> jesse: sorry to hear that all right, dana. >> dana: little jesse is going to see through that jesse when you start using that on him. this is like the shameless one more thing for me.

two book events i wanted to bring up with you i will be with same sky which is an amazing charity thursday night april 22nd at :30 p.m. check it out same sky. please sign up. it's going to be great. and actual book signing event at book town in manasquan in new jersey. april 25th at 4 chock. then on sunday night at 0 o'clock p.m., if you can stay awake, you should, because president bush has his new peculiar out, "out of many one"i had a chance to interview him and four of the immigrants that he painted that will air on sunday night. >> jesse: okay. i know what i'm doing on sunday night. greg, what about you? >> gregg: i am also plugging a new book. check this out, people. oh, i'm so excited it's post -- lithuanian edition of my book the plus it's finally out lithuania, you asked for it and

you got it. it's going to be a best seller. speaking of best sellers, let's do this. ♪ animals are great. ♪ animals are great ♪ animals are great ♪ ♪ gut gut keeping with the bush theme here is a bush baby getting a nice little rub down with a toothbrush. i got nothing really clever to say about this but i just enjoy i wish i could feel that good in the morning. look at that just enjoy -- oh, so clean. these are the greatest pets on the planet. too bad they pee everywhere much like me. [laughter] anyway. i that is neither here nor there. >> dagen: it's everywhere, actually. >> jesse: book signing in lithuania. take all the time you want. go for it dagen? >> dagen: i love ketchup hash brown as ketchup delivery vehicles. red gold is debuting it's fold

of honor ketchup proceeds folds of honor. the mission is to educate and support the children of our fallen heroes. we stand with folds of honor. red gold ketchup. the ketchup for a cause has raised more than $100,000 for folds of honor just in its first eight months. >> dana: i will buy that. >> dagen: yes, i will, too. >> jesse: all right. i will put some of that on my hamburger. let's go to jesse's bear news. so, some dudes in tennessee were throwing a bachelor party and a bear showed up. it's a stripper. oh my gosh. >> greg: it's a stripper. what happened? >> jesse: so the bear comes into the car and grabs a bag of nuts and just starts going to town on the nuts and, you know, stuffing the nuts all town his throat and just went viral at the bachelor

party. that's what happens when you throw a bachelor party in the woods in tennessee. you know, you never know what could happen. you never know. >> greg: dressed as police officers. >> jesse: we couldn't show you that part. that's it for us. "special report" up next with bret baier who is also a hit at bachelor party. >> bret: y., no relation. do you know how many times you end the show with a bear video? there is a heavy percentage, actually. >> jesse: it's working, trust me. >> bret: okay, all right. see you. good evening, welcome to washington. i'm bret baier, breaking tonight, just one day after the conviction of a former police officer in the death of george floyd, there is tension in columbus, ohio over the fatal police shooting of a black teenager who is seen on body camera video attacking at least one woman with a knife. authorities quickly released that body cam video, explained what happened, but that did not stop the white house, lawmakers, celebrities from weighing in often leaving out t