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to see it. i wish i could share this with him, i know he would be the most joyful of all. so very true. congrats to the nationals. thank you for inviting us at your home tonight. that is it for "special report." "the story" starts right now. >> martha: thank you and congratulations. tonight, democrats vote to move forward with impeachment. they call it a sad and somber halloween, but is it going to turn out to be a texas chainsaw massacre? we will see. >> this is a very grave matter. >> it's a sad day because no one comes to congress to impeach a president. >> we take no joy in having to move down this road. >> this is not a celebratory moment. >> martha: you get the idea. while democrats say that the process will bring everything out from behind closed doors, republicans are saying they
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think that it's trickery. mark meadows has been cut out of this process at he says that democrats want him and jim jordan back in the shadows. meadows also will tell us about the latest testimony today which he believes he is now the democrats were hoping it would be. we will discuss that. his adam schiff dressing as ken starr this halloween? he's here to tells what he thinks of that. plus, tom brogan on what he says is underneath all of this. what is the actual ukraine policy of the trump administration and is that what has the state department conce concert? the resignation of katie hill and more. by the way, we didn't buy at 30 democrats, they're usually very welcome then, they show all the time. we invited 30 democrats to talk about the impeachment decision and they said no, they were apparently traveling. that was a response we got from most of them.
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hopefully they'll be on tomorrow night. joining me now, mark meadows, member of the house oversight committee us. good to see you i think you for being here tonight. do you think that you and jim jordan in particular on oversight and committees are going to be cut out of this process? >> based on what they passed today, we know that it's going to be the adam schiff show and what we look at this adam schiff will be in control of everything. it's interesting, the lead up to this particular segment as you were talking about, they were saying this was a somber day. that is just all a mystery to me because all the house floor just a few feet from where i am right now, earlier today their whips were going, don't applaud. don't cheer when they get to 2 218. they were trying to have a different narrative. they know this is a sham.
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actually i had to come out of one of those hidden bunkers in the basement of the capital where we were having an impeachment inquiry to vote on the impeachment inquiry! this is all just really a part of a sudden attack of the president of the united states that they have done not once, not twice, this is the fourth time! >> martha: i know you and your colleagues are very unhappy about the process, but let's talk about the substance of it. tim morrison who was a russia expert in the national security council testified and you expressed you felt like he was a good witness for your side of this. why? >> he was an outstanding witness for our side and what i said earlier today is that if the democrats were sucking lemons, the more he would testify, the more they puckered up with their lips. they couldn't believe what they were hearing. not only was there not leverage
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before, but we do know that this particular witness who was in the know, really they are on the call, listening and in subsequent meetings. we know that leverage was not provided in terms of a quick profile that everyone is talking about, but that the aide was released without the ukrainian government doing anything. you can't have an impeachable offense if it wasn't a deliverable one. hour after hour today got worse and worse. >> martha: again, the public suffers from not really hearing this themselves because people come out and everyone gives their own side. "the washington post" saying that if republicans are jubilant at essentially over the more sent testimony, they believe you're mistaken. they say that morrison confirmed that military aid had been conditioned on ukraine and now the investigation into the company that employs hunter by dent. >> i will say two fix, i was in
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the hearing all day today and i didn't see a single "washington post" reporter and there with me. i would say the second thing is that what they're referring to is a confirmation of a conversation that was not between the president. it was second or third hand. that's a democrat spend -- i can promise you that the democrat spend, we want to release the entire deposition from all the witnesses, let's start with the one today. do know what will happen? we will see democrats peeling off left and right, not voting for impeachment going any further based on today's testimony. >> martha: we will see. let's put up these poll numbers. americans do want to say corey according to this poll, they want the investigation according to these numbers. numb terms of the supporting or removing and impeaching the president, 52% oppose that and d states which i think -- it's
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very interesting. when you do open up this process and you start having these opening hearings, you will get a lot more reaction from the rest of america who hasn't been privy to this so far. this p.r. exactly right your viewers, the people that are watching right now, they would have said shut this thing down immediately. however we will start to have some public hearings. here's the interesting thing. you talk about public opinion, the greatest public opinion happens in november every four years. we are 12 months away from our presidential election. let's have the oversight. let's do proper oversight, the let's not try to take a vote away from the american people. >> martha: that is one of the more interesting elements. people of the country wants that part of this decision decided by you all on the hill or whether they want to wait 12 months to
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make that decision and the booth. apparently we have some news from adam schiff on cbs talking about whether or not he thinks the rules have been unfair as you have been saying. watch this. >> republicans say the rules are unfair, are they? >> no, the rules are the same as they were during the nixon and clinton impeachment. >> martha: what do you say to that? >> yesterday we were asking questions the day before yesterday, asking questions and a deposition and adam schiff shut us down. as we started to get more and more closer to the evidence that actually would exonerate the president, he shut it all down to the point where we had to peel the ruling of the carer. he is the judge, the prosecutor and really the person that isn't all of this. he's the camstar of this hearing and yet he is just a member of congress. i would strongly disagree with
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his characterization. it has been so unfair that the president of united states, the american people demand and should expect better. >> martha: this discussion of what went on in their when people -- when republicans wanted to cross examine and ask their own questions. it's been reported you got into a heated argument with congressman's while well over that. can you confirm that and was a line of question that they were objecting to having to do with the whistle-blower only? was it outside of that as well? >> there two things. one, the republicans don't know who the whistle-blower is. for us to say we were asking about the whistle-blower, we don't know the identity. that line of argument doesn't work. the other thing is -- as we look at this i can tell you that i know the rules very well and so many times i will appeal the ruling of the chair and on this particular occasion he took issue with that spirit the last
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time i checked, he is not the president and he doesn't have a gamble in his hand. i made the appeal to the proper person which was adam schiff. >> martha: you are saying there were things that you want to do ask that had nothing to do with the whistle-blower and adam schiff shut those questions down? >> that is correct. he put anything that relates to the intel community off limits. anything that relates to the intel community -- excuse me. what we loo look at that, that'e only jurisdiction that his committee has. anything that's under his jurisdiction he put off-limits and set out, look at everything else. it's not fair or proper. >> martha: they wanted an open process, open hearing and that could start as early as next week. thank you very much. always good to have you with us. to speak with thank you. >> martha: coming up next, former independent counsel kenneth starr who says adam schiff has inadvertently made himself a witness in this
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>> martha: republicans got what they asked for. a vote on impeachment, but now they want to hang that process around chairman schiff's neck and make him own it. >> here's my challenge, you want to be camstar, b ken starr. come to the committee and be the first witness and take every question asked of you. [applause] 's starting with your own involvement with the whistle-blower. this ain't over. get ready.
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>> martha: here now, congressman collins, candace starr served as the former independent counsel over president clinton and he was questioned by david kendall back in 1998 and we will take a look back in time here. here's what that looks like. >> nothing in this overkill of investigation amounts to a justification for the impeachment of the president of the united states. there's been no case remotely serious to this in terms of the massive leaking from the prosecutor's office. >> i totally disagree with that. that's the accusation and unfair accusation. i completely reject it. >> martha: some of the language on both sides their sounds pretty familiar ken starr. here we go again. to think that adam schiff should be questioned by the president's attorney about this whole process?
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>> i think there's a strong argument. it's likely to happen, but it should have been. the house has total power. you can stop the house from doing what it wants to do, whether it's fear, i think it's something that is lost in the conversation. the appearance of fairness -- what we heard in the court, it's fair and unfair. do the american people when they see all of this, the appearance of fairness and even handedness. these are very important and basic values. his relationship is specifically with the whistle-blower where there seems to be a conflict that he had no relationship. he being the chairman, chairman schiff. maybe he did. perhaps that whistle-blower came in a very disorderly way to the house of representatives rather than going through the chain of command and going to the inspector general. that is all very questionable
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and if the chairman was guiding the whistle-blower, we can help you, adapt saying if barrett >> martha: he said he never spoke with him. he came to one of his staffers and informed him he had to go to an attorney. that is what we know. >> that hasn't been tested. right? you have allegations and that is what cross-examination is formed. someone could say, the light was red and guess what? it wasn't red. it was green. that is why you have cross examination. let's move to more public -- there is such a cruel irony with the vote on let's open it up. there's going to be a real test, is naturally going to happen. at the same time. hear from closed testimonies continuing. i think it's been a very disorderly process when they had the road map of henry hyde and
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peter in the past impeachment. >> martha: i think people have a pretty good smell test for these things and i think your rights. i think the american people will look at this i did so incumbent on those who are running this process to give people a sense that it is fair. if they feel like it's not fair it's not going to sit well with them. i don't think any sort of amount of her ragging on either side will be more powerful than people's own gut check on this when they actually start to watch this process. i'm going to be watching the meter on that very closely. "the washington post" wrote an editorial and he was critical of you, he says as her anything republicans won't say to make impeachment go away? ken starr is responsible fo more than anybody on earth. do you think you are more responsible than any person on earth for the impeachment of
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bill clinton? >> no. bill clinton was responsible for him committing perjury and obstruction of justice. i reported it. the report that we gave was complete and accurate and it was fair. what dana is doing is a very effective twist to say, ken starr this instigator of impeachment. i was a duty bound to send to the house. i have said it in my book, i think it would have been valuable for the house of representatives to have had a conversation. was there something short of impeachment? >> martha: quickly if you can, what do you see the vulnerabilities are for this president? is their fault here from president trump? >> i think people can fault his judgment. why would you raise joe biden in this call? that's an appropriate thing to talk about and have oversight. in my view, we are nowhere close to treason, bribery, and other
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high crimes and misdemeanors. >> martha: that is what david kendall said. we will see where it comes out. ken starr, thank you very much. good to see you. speaking of whistle-blowers, whistle-blower protection is designed to make sure a person who comes forward does not lose their job or suffer any consequences from their superiors and their work. it protects them from that, but does it protect them from the media? brit hume wait in this last night we will go further this evening. ♪ insurance, so you only pay for what you need. >> host: ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ at bayer, we're more than we help farmers like john. by developing digital tools, so he can use less water to grow crops. at bayer, this is why we science.
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american people deserve to know who the whistle-blower is. democrats have resisted that pressure so far arguing that lives could be at risk and releasing the name could scare off future whistle-blowers. there is also the question of the law pertaining to this. whistle-blowers are protected from government retaliation which means they can't be demoted or fired. they have a limited right to remain anonymous, government officials cannot reveal their name. when it comes to their media as brit hume pointed out last night, all bets are off. >> there is an internal government system to protect people inside the government from being retaliated against for reporting wrongdoing by their superiors or by others in their agencies. it is binding on people inside the government. it is not binding by the media. >> martha: charlie hurt's and richard fowler, national syndicated radio host and
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fox news contributor. great to have you with us. richard, let me start with you. brit hume says and he knows all of course, he has been around a long time. he says the media has no responsibility to keep this name under wraps if we learn it and confirm it. >> he is right. if the media finds out they can report it and hopefully they won't. he could be subject to threats against him or his family, or she could be subject to threats and i think it speaks largely -- a larger problem. what whistle-blowers do every day as they protect against fraud, and abuse and they save the american taxpayers millions and millions of dollars. the fact that we are focusing on the whistle-blowers and not the july 25th call is problematic to me. we had people who were on the call who indicated that what the president's behavior wasn't appropriate. we have the president transcript that shows the behavior was inappropriate.
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this idea of the whistle-blower -- republicans attack in the process and not attacking the facts of the call. >> martha: what to say about that? there are plenty of people and we watched a whole parade of them. really it makes you think that this story was going to come out one way or the other regardless of this whistle-blower. >> the whistle-blower trigger this entire think of the more information we know about this individual who we believe it to be, it's a highly politically motivated individual. it's more like a democratic operative. this person works with adam schiff and he lied about it. had connections to biden, might have even went to ukraine. more broadly, richard is correct in one sense that there should be retaliation against whistle-blowers. we are talking about the impeachment of the president of united states that he plays not just an important role, a critical role in how this got started. what conversations did he have? what communications?
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when you are being accused of something as high as high crimes and misdemeanors, you have the right to face your accusers. due process. these are things at the president and his team are not being afforded and it's a double standard. >> martha: john brennan says that this is an attack on cia folks, the so-called deep state. here is what john brennan said about the spirit >> the reason why mr. trump has us very relationsp with the cia and the deep state people -- >> and you. >> i've heard that. [laughter] they tell the truth. they cannot be manipulated like lay in his hands. they will stand up and speak out when things are wrong. >> martha: richard? >> what you can't get away from is the facts. we do not know if the whistle-blower went on a trip with jo joe biden and we do not know if the whistle blower was a
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democratic operative. we don't know this. here's what we do know. >> martha: we are not reporting any person's name but we have not confirmed anybody. there is more than one person out there. go ahead. >> here's what we do know. this whistle-blower followed the law add their complaints have been cooperated by many other sources and he is credible by the justices office. the dni has indicated that the inspector general is credible and the whistle-blower is credible. >> martha: let me go back to this. it seems to be that in some sense since it doesn't matter that the phone call has come o out. people also had concerns about the call. charlie, do you think that if this whistle-blower never come forward that one of these other individuals wouldn't have pushed a story or leak the story? >> it's impossible to know, but it's still very important because it seems like if there
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were congressional branch collusion that is not resulted in impeachment. >> martha: the president said the same thing. there's no problem with the call. the call is out there. his concern about how it got out there is interesting and it goes to motivation, but we all know what was said on the call at the debate becomes whether or not it was above that. >> i want to finish something. number one, ken starr mentioned that he didn't go to the ign went to congress. number two, i've yet to hear what specific u.s. criminal code the president of the united states violated. there's nothing about perjury and ken starr said in his recommendation, any one dow and that's why -- >> lets do with that. it's a violation of campaign finance. that's a domestic campaign. number two, your point about this executive congressional
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collusion, there is no evidence or reporting of points to the fact that this whistle-blower spoke with members of congress. >> martha: we are the dumb luck at very beginning of this he put things out there and we will see what happens and that is what this process is all about. good to see you both tonight. thank you very much. coming up next, the internal war pastoring on the democratic front runners over who will pay for health care. andy pulitzer has some ideas on that. i wonder where he is? right in the studio, coming up next. >> i want joe to explain to the american people, how much will the premiums cost? how many more people will go bankrupt because they cannot afford medical bills because they were dying of cancer, heart disease, or some other illness? ♪ >> host:
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how every american -- how much you will play. i don't think i have to do that right now. at the end of the day we will pay for every nickel of medicare for all. >> martha: every nickel. how does medicare for all get paid for exactly? irritation at that question when it comes up with the campaign trail, but it's a good question. he thinks his competition is vulnerable. >> unlike a lot of people i tell you how much my plants cost. it doesn't cost $3.4 trillion per year. it will cost somewhere between 600 -- billion dollars a year -- $600 billion total to $720 billion. >> martha: sanders wasted no time heading back. watch this. >> i would hope that joe biden explains the american people how under his plan, it contains a
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dysfunctional, wasteful, and cruel health care system. a system today which is costing us twice as much per person than anybody in an industrial country pays. >> martha: here now, the ceo, there was good at looking at the economy and how much things cost and with the reality check is here. you think that joe biden, that was the smartest thing he's done so far. >> that was a low bar, but this is the smartest thing he's done so far. last year -- 2018 we took in $3.5 trillion in total revenue for every source for the government. we spent about 4.5 trillion. we spent a trillion more than we brought in. medicare for all would cost according to the arcata's foundation which did a very good analysis, they said it would
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cost 3.26 trillion a year on average for ten years. you basically have to double the amount of money that we would bring an end >> martha: it's more than every single dollar. >> you still would have a trillion dollars shortfall. we are not even talking green new deal and college tuition at all the other things he wants to do. there's only one way to make health care better. there's only one way to improve the quality you decrease the price and that's competition. it's the only think of the history of the world that would decrease price and that is theye one you think he wants to take out of the system. get rid of all private health care and give it all to the government. prices go up and quality goes down. we can pay for this. it's a bad idea and joe biden is on the right track. >> martha: why can't they just say it? it's the idea -- you have 20% of americans were interested in socialism. why not say here's what the deal is. you, everyone in the middle class but have to chip in to
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support this program. that's the way it would be. if you like that idea and everybody would be covered by this program, vote for me. >> the percentage scares him that the taxes -- nobody adheres to what that vote would vote for bernie sanders parent if you took every patty that rich people earned, it was $2.3 trillion last year. $2.3 trillion doesn't pay for medicare for all. that is $3.26 trillion. you could take every penny that everybody who makes more than $500,000 a year earns and put it towards the social -- it wouldn't come close. that is not where the money is. the money is the middle class. >> martha: all of us candidates get so irritated with the question. it's such an obvious question that needs to be asked and they need to be pressed on it on these campaign stops. one person who may be looking at this whole thing from the wings as hillary clinton. she had no real journal
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health care plan when her husband was the president. here is bill clinton last night talking about whether or not she will get it. >> i'm the only one that's not running for anything ever, she may or may not ever imprint i can't legally run for president again. >> she may or may not. they're looking for somebody. you watch the debate. nobody on that stage can watch donald trump and take a bond. they have to come up with something and impeachment it was solution that i try to take across the finish line at the other thing is to find a candidate that can actually run against donald trump. it's not any of the people on that stage where they have a real quandary. >> martha: it's like the door with a big question on it, who is this person? stays tuned. has impeachment cloud overshadow the administration's efforts to help ukraine combat russian
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♪ >> martha: what we do know about the fight over ukraine policy, is that there were a number of folks in the state department who didn't like the way that the president was treating ukraine. last night at the secretary of state mike pompeo was here and he argued the administration has actually done far more to support and strengthen ukraine against russia that the prior administration ever did. >> i was on the call and i listened to the call. i thought the way the president handled it was appropriate. we've executed on that. don't forget, this is the administration that provided defensive weapon systems to ukraine. the previous administration -- i couldn't tell you live. i couldn't tell you if it's hunter biden and barack obama, it would have to for that.
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>> martha: tom rogan, commentary writer at the "washington examiner." good to have you with us. obviously this is separate from the phone call. it goes to this issue of what these individuals at the nfc and the state department, what they wanted for ukraine and what they felt they weren't getting in terms of their own policy that they wanted to put forth. when you look at the actual policy of this administration. has it strengthen ukraine's hand against russia? >> personally i have a problem with a phone call. i think it was inappropriate. on the specific question of american support for ukraine under president trump and president obama, they are simply no question that the trump administration has provided greater support to ukraine. it's not debatable. whether you look at the lethal aid, the intelligent side of things which mike pompeo is a former cia director and he doesn't want to talk about that. you look at pushing back against
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germany and france who have been pressuring ukraine to cut a deal. there is no question that they trump administration has provided a great measure of support. >> martha: to underline that, europe has been pushing ukraine to do deals with russia. we as united states of america under the current administration have been discouraging them from doing that, trying to strengthen them by selling them chaplains. the obama administration refused to do. they refused to sell them any lethal aid. correct? >> goes beyond that. there is a paten pattern. i was speaking to politicians from another country and that part of the world that's at the same thing that they trump administration has been much better than the obama administration. if you look at the malaysian airline that was shot down by a russian system operated by
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pro-russian ukrainian rebels. president obama, the netherlands and australians wanted to secure the site and president obama wouldn't do that. the intelligent service let the bodies brought, the innocent people. >> martha: why did they do that? >> i think president obama ultimately, a simplistic argument, but the top line is that president obama was scared of vladimir putin. he would be out escalated. if he pushed back against vladimir putin, he would push so far that the united states, he would be able to deal with that. that's the only logical explanation. >> martha: what of the more intense defenders, active participation on our part in helping ukraine with john mccain. here he is. >> you can't stand by and watch people being slaughtered. we have the superior equipment,
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blankets don't do very well against tanks. >> martha: you hear people who are against the president in the say that this is a national security issue and they say that in terms of defending ukraine against russia, we were weakening ukraine against russia. that part of all of this is pretty tough to say. >> yeah, and it is obviously sad and that's frustrating. again, aside from the phone call we have the nuts and bolts to test the provision of equipment. equipment that is specifically designed to beat russian -- the tanks and high-powered rifles to break down -- things that would kill russians we have given to the unit gradients. it doesn't get more supportive than that >> martha: you think about what really matters underlying our country's policy versus this country, and make some of this other stuff which i think --
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it's very clear you agree. you say that was the phone call was egregious, but it's interesting to peel it all back and look at the policies. tom rogan, good to see you tonight. coming up next, katie hill addresses congress with a singing review of president trout. >> i voted onto impeachment. not just because of corruption, obstruction of justice of gross misconduct, because it's the deepest abuse of power included the abuse of power over women. >> martha: matt gaetz has spoken out on the katie hill story and he's here to respond to ♪ granted. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ you have fast-acting power over pain, so the whole world looks different.
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>> congressman katie hill delivered a fiery farewell speech today as she resigns from congress in the midst of an ethics probe and an appropriate relationship with a congressional staffer, nude photos resurfaced revealing
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a relationship with a female campaign eight and today she blasted a double standard that forced her out of office while taking aim at president trump. >> a man who brags about his predation's who has had dozens of women accusing him of sexual assault and filled the court with judges that deprive women of the most fundamental rights to control her own body sits in the highest office in the land. as my final act i move forward to vote for the impeachment of donald trump. >> martha: republican congressman matt gaetz, it's good to have you here. on october 24th you said about this situation is it's absurd, the only person who has a gripe of katie hill is her soon-to-be
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ex, who among us is perfect? do you believe she is the victim of a double standard in the house? >> i don't know that it's a double standard by gender, i think it's a different standard by generation. this is an issue where a lot of millennials sympathize with katie hill because a lot of young people who grew up with a smartphone in their hands and took pictures, sent them, shared messages and materials that are now recoverable later in life -- katie hill's problem is not with donald trump, her ire should be directed at her fellow democrats. she's a california democrat, the only thing worse for a california democrat for not having a single of your own
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colleagues defend you is having only me defend you. i don't know why they woke left wouldn't stand up for our colleague come our coworker when the only person complaining, the only aggrieved party was katie hill's ex who is releasing information to try to ruin her life. >> martha: nancy pelosi started to speak up on her behalf, when it was too late. do you think she nudged katie hill out based on this? there's a lot of other stories that have a similar ring to them and she was cut out of the picture very quickly, do you think she encouraged her to leave? >> i think there is a dynamic on the left where they want to be able to weaponize the me too movement so badly against republicans that they are willing to sacrifice people like katie hill or al franken on the altar of political correctness so they can preserve the sharpest a dagger for republicans that they don't like. i don't think these issues should be partisan in nature, i think if someone is trying to destroy your coworkers that you should not weaponize the house ethics process against your coworker, you should sympathize with the fact that the only reason this information is in the public square is because someone is committing the crime of revenge. i think nancy pelosi should have said them sooner rather than later. >> martha: it surprising in a
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few ways when you look back at this story. switching gears here, last night he mentioned rule 23 regarding adam schiff. do you believe -- now you've brought an ethics complaint against him, how does all that tie together? >> rule 23 of the house's as a member cannot act in a way that brings discredit on the house and i can't think of anything more discrediting than adam schiff performing a fake transcript to try to get the american people's minds polluted about a conversation between trump and zelensky that never happened. my view is the president is innocent but all of this secrecy is intended to try to make people think there is something worse than what is actually right before us. >> martha: do you think you're going to get anywhere with that complaint? >> i don't know, i wanted to raise the point on the eve of this vote that vested i authoriy
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in adam schiff, it should be judiciary committee that should be developing these facts and democrats lost to republicans with mueller's testimony, you see a perverted process to try to frontload an outcome that isn't supported by the evidence. >> tucker: congressman matt gaetz, always good to have you here. before we go tonight first up on the halloween theme, democrat congressman katie porter grace to the halls of congress, she was decked out -- this is absolutely bat woman, that takes courage to dress up like that on capitol hill. that's katie porter making an interesting scene today at our costume of the night award goes to this little beautiful girl, one of our youngest viewers in florida. she's a package of savory butter
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roles and don't you love those? she's got extra dinner rolls all the way up and down her arms. that is the story of thursday october 31st and we will see you here tomorrow night, tucker carlson coming up live from washington, d.c., right n now. ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight," it's halloween so today of course congress took its first official step toward impeaching the president. the house voted 232 to 196 to approve a resolution that lays out rules for the impeachment process, it was nearly perfect party line vote, every single republican voted against it, all but two democrats voted in favor of it. adam schiff meanwhile the congressman from burbank was ecstatic, he has spent years obsessing over impeachment like it was a young jodie foster.
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