on fox friday at 8:07 p.m. >> fox football thursday today. are we going to fit in news? we need to go to los angeles and stay on their set. >> go to fox nation and we'll go look at the cars. >> bill: good morning. fox news alert. new developments breaking overnight involving the ukraine whistleblower and what might be a new example of political bias. we're working through the story today as we say good morning. i'm bill hemmer. next three hours. how are you doing, sandra? >> sandra: good morning. i'm sandra smith. we knew the whistleblower is a registered democrat with a prior work history with a senior democrat. sources close to the intel community ig saying the whistleblower has acknowledged other anti-trump bias. >> bill: republicans stepping up demands for more transparency. dozens disrupting the deposition yesterday.

a lot of reaction coming in from lawmakers and president trump. >> president trump: i've had the mueller witch hunt, the russia witch hunt. >> adam schiff is trying to impeach the president of the united states behind closed doors trying to overturn the election of 2016 a year before the americans go to the polls to decide who will be president. >> the republicans are under a lot of stress. i guess when you're desperate you go back to complaining about the process. and that's what they're doing. >> sandra: a lot of reaction there. chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel is keeping track of it on capitol hill for us. >> good morning. frustration really boiling over in this impeachment inquiry. the top republicans on the relevant committees jim jordan, michael mccaul and devin nunes wrote a letter to chairman adam schiff writing they want to have the whistleblower testify so they can fully assess the sources and credibility of the

employee. several witnesses have offered testimony in the inquiry that rebutter the central assertion of the anonymous employees' complaint. others say democrats aren't being fair to president trump. >> it is all smoke and mirrors. you look at a process. if you go back to nixon and clinton it went through the judiciary committee. the fact is nancy pelosi does not trust nadler so he is running -- she is running it through adam schiff in an intelligence committee. not even the committee of jurisdiction. >> bill: the protest yesterday delayed the testimony of pentagon official laura cooper who overseas ukraine. lawmakers wanted to question her about the delay and hundreds of million else of dollars in aid to the ukrainians. the money in the middle of this impeachment inquiry. this morning democrats are defending their tactics. >> we never had a president like this before so the laws that we've had on the books have oftentimes been appropriately responded to. clearly he looks at every

loophole and say we'll have to close those loopholes. if a staff member, if a federal employee refuses to meet with congress, they should be in a position where they lose their salary. >> today should be a much quieter day on capitol hill. a temporary break as lawmakers pay their respects to chairman elijah cummings, the chairman of the oversight committee. >> bill: want to bring in dan henninger. the piece you wrote this week. pelosi's impeachment blunder is the title. the first line reads this way. nancy pelosi and the democrat impeachment strategy right the first time. don't do it. it appears they didn't listen to you. >> or to herself. people forget she was the one who was resisting going down the impeachment path as she calls it and i think she had it right because we can see it is now beginning to go a little

bit wobbly. the big news this week was that they wanted to have an impeachment vote by thanksgiving. that timetable is slipping. they say they want to sharpen their case. think, bill, it means it will slip into december. mitch mcconnell thought he would have a trial before the end of the year but now it looks as though the trial will roll over into january. january is one month before what? the big democratic presidential primaries. four of them, right? iowa, new hampshire, nevada and south carolina. if you're having a trial in the u.s. senate of the sitting president of the united states, those senators are going to have to be there and five democratic senators are running for president. so instead of campaigning in those democratic primaries during the week, they are going to have to sit in the senate for the trial. no way they can blow off going out there to campaign while you are trying to president of the united states. >> bill: you talk about the russia collusion narrative and obstruction narrative.

they've gone to the wayside. you conclude the following. if they don't pull off impeachment and drive donald trump out of public life next year the losses for the democrats and media will be devastating. the familiar do or die stakes of trying to take out the king. you are making a case they have no choice but to go forward on this. >> well, i think at this point they have no choice. they are completely committed. but i don't think it was ever very clear to them what they were trying to do. look, from day one from inauguration day they've been trying to in effect impeach donald trump. they did go through the russian collusion thing, then obstruction of justice, now they have impeachment. and consider even if they complete this by the end of january, it will be done and 11 months will be waiting in front of them until the election. the air will have gone out of the impeachment balloon by then. >> bill: with regard to republicans we're watching a couple senators closely. john thune talked about the picture not being a good one

and to say we're getting a one-sided story. mitch mcconnell has said very little this week. where do you think he is on this at the moment. >> mitch mcconnell is -- he is an extraordinary trump tuning fork. he knows exactly how far he can go, when he should speak out, when he shouldn't speak out. he spoke out on the president's decision to pull troops out of syria and that was a legitimate public policy dispute. on this impeachment deal i think the republicans probably are on firmer ground by objecting to the way the democrats are going about it. all of these waivering republicans to the extent there are waivering republicans like cory gardner and susan collins in maine. they want to see the details of the ukrainian accusations and the democrats are insisting on holding these secret hearings. the democrats keep saying the republicans are complaining about process. this has to be one of the

greatest hall of fame talking points, absurd talking points i've ever heard. >> bill: the headline of the nrk timings. trump's war on the deep state turns against him. the democrat from virginia says with all the disparagement i think you're seeing some payback here not by design but by opportunity. almost car mick justice. all of a sudden there is an opportunity for people who know things to speak up and testify about and against and they are doing so, end quote. what do you make of that? >> this is really kind of -- that they can argue it is deep state. it is apples and oranges. the original deep state was the investigation of the trump campaign by james comey, mccabe, clapper, brennan back during the campaign. that was the original deep state accusations against trump. to roll it forward and equate that with what was going on in ukraine where the president was

running something of a parallel foreign policy with rudy giuliani trying to get to the bottom of that and having these state department officials come forth and testify about what they knew is not deep state. what is deep state i think is adam schiff insisting that their testimony be secret rather than letting the american people see the full details of what they are saying about that event. >> bill: the suggestion they could do a public hearing in three weeks. we'll see whether or not it happens. great to get your input. dan henninger from the "wall street journal." >> sandra: a lot more on all of this with one of the lawmakers who led the charge to disrupt that hearing yesterday. republican congressman from alabama bradley burn will be our guest live moments from now. >> president trump: the nations in the region must ultimately take on the responsibility of helping turkey and syria police their border. we want other nations to get involved. we've secured the oil and therefore a small number of u.s. troops will remain in the

area where they have the oil and we are going to be protecting it and we'll be deciding what we're going to do with it in the future. >> sandra: as president trump announces a permanent cease-fire in northern syria turkey and russia reaching an agreement to dispatch their troops along the border. filling the void left by the u.s. troop withdrawal. benjamin hall is reporting live from northern syria for us this morning. benjamin. >> hi, sandra. just in the last few hours we've been hearing reports of cease-fire violations a few hours to the west of us. hearing reports that turkish jihadi militias are carrying out drone strikes, fighting with guns, machine guns as well as mortar attacks. the fact is that people here on the ground do not trust the turks. they feel the cease-fire isn't going to last and we're hearing they're looking for more protection. the place they're looking and turning now is russia. it is russia who have come in

and filled the vacuum left by the u.s. they are the ones sending more troops to northern syria. it is the russians who have become the power brokers on the ground. the only ones able to talk to the syrian regime and iranians, turks and kurds. as if to prove that point today kurdish military commander who recently praised president trump for his help in achieving the cease-fire was talking via skype to the russian defense minister telling him i would like to appreciate specifically president putin's efforts in protecting our people and stopping the military operations. u.s. defense secretary esper lashing out at turkey for starting all of this. >> i've been very candid about this. turkey put us all in a terrible situation. i think the incursion was unwarranted. >> turkish jihadi proxies are still carrying out attacks and

it has jeopardized gains against isis adding that turkey is heading in the wrong direction and getting closer to russia. there is a decided difference on the ground from the last time i was here. back then the caliphate had fallen and people were optimistic and they thought it would become a bass shonn of freedom. a lot of people are leaving. we're keeping a close eye on the cease-fire violations if they're just eye lateed or if they escalate. today it's tense up here in northern syria. >> sandra: interesting perspective and great reporting on the ground. benjamin hall in northern syria for us. >> bill: he has been there many times and coming back today to give us the best context we can at the moment. thank you, ben. in a moment back at home fighting is out of control fire in california. more electric black-outs. where the worst is as a sun comes up on the west coast. >> sandra: the big question, will she or won't she?

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know? enough. we're so frustrated. they reached a boiling point. these guys said we want to know what's going on. >> bill: house republicans demanding for transparency from democrats as we learn the whistleblower on ukraine told the intelligence community inspecter general he or she a -- tom dupree might have the answer. good morning to you. we knew the whistleblower is a registered democrat and there was a prior work history with a senior democrat. what does this latest allegation suggest with regard to bias? >> it suggests and indicates there is yet more evidence to come about possible bias. in the law things like motive, bias, credibility are all highly relevant and that's what makes anonymous allegations difficult to defend against because when you don't know who is making them it is very difficult to put the allegations in context to

figure out if it's a trustworthy source of information. >> bill: what is the potential damage do you think? this person is critical in the end. >> the person is critical. the person who put this whole process in motion. look, the fact is democrats have some evidence that doesn't come directly from the whistleblower. we've heard testimony from other officials, transcript of the phone call. to the extent the democrats plan to rely on the whistleblower's take in that five or six page letter that kicked the whole thing off. the fact this whistleblower might have had a partisan axe to grind is highly relevant and puts some of these allegations in context. >> bill: you heard the statement of bill taylor the other day. lengthy and detailed. what do you think based on i guess the crumbs along the way, what do you think they can prove at the moment, tom? >> i think they can prove there were clearly efforts to extract information from ukraine and at the same time there were efforts in fact they did withhold for a period of time

the military aid. i think what the democrats need to do is they need to draw that link. they need to make the connection that one thing was based on the other thing. that is why the comments that mick mulvaney made the other day were viewed as explosive. he seemed to make that link for the democrats. he has walked that back and tried to clarify it. that's what this will get down to. >> bill: in that answer what is considered illegal? the commander-in-chief has enormous latitude. what would be illegal? >> conditioning the provision of military aid on providing information for political use. that would be the problem. if the president is acting in the best interests of the united states trying to effect united states diplomacy that's perfectly fine and presidents can do and constitution nallly are supposed to do. you start getting into hot water if you have a situation where people in the administration were advancing a political agenda trying to achieve political goals and using that with a link to the provision of aid.

>> bill: in the legal sense you are the lawyer, i'm not. what lawyers the end to do is parse the language. they could parse it the following way. it is one thing to be looking at the election of 2016. another thing to be forecasting toward 2020. you understand the distinction? >> i do. the first one looking backward is really more of a legitimate law enforcement function because you are trying to protect the sanctity of our elections. learn who happened to prevent it from happening again. looking forward it because more dicey. you look to a future election and the information would be for use in that election. >> bill: do we know the second part of that equation is proven yet? >> i don't think they've proved it yet. we've heard testimony and there is evidence that people could use to draw that link. we're still in the early stages of this. we'll hear from other witnesses. we still don't know the identity of the whistleblower which might help put things in context. there is a lot more information to come out.

of course, the american people haven't seen a lot of this information. these hearings aren't being held openly. >> bill: if you get a public hearing in three weeks perhaps it all changes. >> it could change the dynamic absolutely. the other thing i'll tell you, when you put people in live testimony in a public hearing you never know what can happen. people will change their story, crumble, make admissions. there is a lot of this game yet to be played. >> bill: tom dupree with analysis from washington, d.c. thank you, tom. see you soon. >> sandra: chicago's top cop snubbing the president refusing to attend trump's speech to police chiefs a little bit later next week. why he is saying he is skipping it even though he is co-hosting the event. plus this. >> bill: terrifying moment for two young girls. how they survived when a tree crashed through the roof of their home.

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>> bill: what a moment this was. a tree crashes into their home on top of both of them. indoor camera captured the mom end in maryland as the girls were watching television. the father says the refrigerator in the house helped prevent a tragedy. >> the refrigerator was the stainless steel refrigerator. it is really what saved our daughters. >> bill: the two girls said to have escaped injury without too much harm to them. they're okay. >> sandra: scary impage, wow. >> bill: you remember when police officers started having cameras in the dashboard 10 years in? you could see so much about the job they do. now we've got cameras in driveways and homes. we'll be seeing all kinds of this stuff here. for those two girls in maryland they're okay.

>> sandra: good placement of that refrigerator. >> then last week you announced a new ad policy that gives politicians a license to lie. you plan on doing no fact checking on political ads. >> chairwoman, our policy is that we do not fact check politicians' speech. >> sandra: mark zuckerberg doubling down as he was grilled on facebook fact checking ads. griff jenkins is live in washington with more. a big day yesterday. we heard a lot from mark zuckerberg. we don't normally hear him that much. >> we sure did. his third visit to capitol hill. believe it or not the focus on the hearing was to create the world's first cryptocurrency called libra. he said now is the time to act. china is fast on the move. skeptical lawmakers had harsh questions about that. >> would you leave behind your

children's inheritance and -- i think it's a fair question. you've proven we cannot trust you with our emails. with our phone numbers. so why should we trust you with our hard earned money? >> the line of questioning went way beyond cryptocurrency. lawmakers took the opportunity to grill him on everything from fact checking hate speech, civil rights and political ads. >> there is some threshold where you will fact check political advertisements. >> congresswoman, yes for specific things like that where there is imminent risk of harm. >> you won't take down lies or you will. it's a simple yes or not. >> the hammering did not stop there. watch this. >> why should the very politicians who lead our country be held to a lower standard for truthfulness and decency than the average american? >> this isn't about helping the politicians. >> it is hate speech. it is hate and it is leading to

violence and death threats in my office. it is untruthful. >> it was a rough day for zuckerberg at times saying he says he is not perfect. as for the cryptocurrency democrats find themselves in a rare alliance with the trump administration who have been critical as well. treasury secretary mnuchin saying it could be used for drug trafficking. >> sandra: a few moments in that hearing room yesterday. >> bill: republicans fighting back against what they call an unfair process. several disrupting that deposition to make a point. one of them is congressman bradley byrne and he will join us in a moment to tell us what happened inside that room live next.

>> behind those doors they intend to overturn the results of an american presidential election. we want to know what's going on. >> what is adam schiff trying to hide? that's a question so many people have >> i represent nearly a million people from florida are asking

me my thoughts on this process and yet i can't relay to them anything except what's being leaked to the media. >> about two dozen house republicans disrupting that closed door deposition yesterday. they say they are frustrated with how adam schiff and other democrats are carrying out the impeachment inquiry. bradley byrne was there, a member of the armed services committee and joins us now. welcome to "america's newsroom." so how was it all decided to lead this charge on the capitol? >> we had a press conference to call attention to the fact there were these secret proceedings going on we weren't privy to. we walked out of that press conference, walked into the ante room outside of the hearing room. told them we wanted to come in. they said we weren't allowed to come in. we said by what authority. they couldn't give us any authority. we walked in. and i can tell you that the democrats in that room were dumbfounded that we walked into

that room. they were stunned. and when i walked in there. >> sandra: you had an exchange of words once you were actually in the room with some of the democrats. what was said? >> well, i talked to several of the democrats. i told adam schiff as he was leaving. adam, don't leave. he left anyway. i went to the others and said what is the basis for this to be behind closed doors? what are you doing in here that you can't show out to the public? and one of them literally told me it's not a special prosecutor so we're having to perform the work of a special prosecutor. we aren't prosecutors in the house of representatives and we're not supposed to be doing that. they are supposed to be conducting an inquiry. this is just a hatchet job against the president. they need to get it out in public for everybody to see. >> sandra: to be clear congressman what exactly is it that you're asking for? house armed services committee. do you want additional committees to be allowed into that room? do you want all members of congress? do you want the press to be in

there? do you want it on public television? >> i want it completely public. the press, every member of the house of representatives, anybody from the public that wants to be there should be there. they did this in watergate. i happen to have been up here as a student intern during watergate. they had witnesses on television. they're doing all this in a room where usually we get secret information that is usually classified. that's not what that room is set up for at all. i walked in the room yesterday and said this is pathetic. it's about 1/10 the side of the judiciary hearing room where this should be taking place. i want it all out in the open, every bit of it. and then let's let the american people decide what's what here and not let them selectively leak what they want the american people to know. >> sandra: i hear the frustration in your voice. democrats obviously reacting with frustration to this move by you and your fellow republicans. here is just a bit of it. >> it's a pathetic stunt.

it will -- all of this will be forgotten. >> our republican colleagues have freaked out. it is a pathetic show on their part. >> it looked like a mob scene. >> sandra: how do you respond to that? >> the pathetic stunt is what adam schiff and the democrats are doing in that room. the rest of us have had enough and we aren't going to let them continue to play that game. i'm not worried about the truth. i want the truth to be out there for everybody to see. if they think they'll stone wall me and other republicans in the house of representatives they're wrong and they got surprised yesterday when we fought back and we are going to continue to fight back. >> sandra: i know that some of what happened broke some congressional rules at the least. some questioning whether or not any laws were broken particularly because it's an ultrasecret room three levels below street level that you and your follow members of congress entered and didn't say stash your cell phones or electronics are not allowed in the room. do you have any regret with how

some of it was handled? >> some of the staff members took our cell phones from us. we didn't have our cell phones. i know they're trying to make a big deal out of that. by the way they announced before we got in the room this witness was not going to be offering anything that was classified. if it's not going to be classified why are we in a room like that? this is a sham and they're trying to throw stuff out there so we can't get it out it's a sham. the american people saw that. >> sandra: adam schiff says the reason for this secrecy that you obviously are taking issue is he doesn't want witnesses coordinating their testimony before they even give it. adam schiff said this and these are his words. the president's allies in congress responding to what happened yesterday are trying to make it even more difficult for these witnesses to cooperate. we're grateful that witnesses have come forward notwithstanding the obstacles. democrats in response to this

yesterday said they'll eventually conduct these hearings in public when they are ready. are you optimistic that will eventually happen? >> yesterday after what we did that's the first time we've ever heard them even say that that they would ever get it out in public. we had to do what we did yesterday to get them to make that commitment. this needs to be public today. if they aren't willing to do that the american people should demand they do it. there is no reason for this not to be out in the public for everybody to see. >> sandra: the "washington post" reported democrats debated calling capitol police to resolve the situation although they felt that would be feeding into republicans' hands. how far were you willing to go with this? will there be more? >> i went as far as i was willing to go yesterday. i walked in the room. i was quiet ready to hear the witness. then they walked out. >> bill: you are a member of the house armed services committee. i would like to ask you about the president's announcement on

syria yesterday, congressman. lifting sanctions on turkey, taurking about a permanent peace deal situation. are you optimistic with the president's strategy here? >> i don't have any confidence in the turks. i don't have any confidence in the syrians. i certainly have no confidence in the russians. i'm afraid we'll have to come back to this topic again. we need to take this up with our nato allies. the activities and the words of the turkish leadership has got me very concerned about our ongoing relationship with them. >> sandra: what do you think the united states needs to do next? >> we need to be very active there in that area because isis hasn't been defeated completely. still isis soldiers out there and they'll regroup if we don't watch out. i'm also very concerned about the status of turkey as a nato ally. they are not acting like an ally not just in this episode but in other episodes. i'm worried about what they are about to become not just there in the middle east but as they

get more and more in league with russia. >> sandra: appreciate your time this morning and thank you for coming on. >> bill: from washington to chicago president trump heading there next week for a speech at the international association of chiefs of police. the top cop in chicago says he will skip the event even though he is the co-host. mike tobin has that story live in the windy city. what's up? good morning. >> bill, a spokesperson for the fraternal order of police lodge that represents the chicago rank and file his mrembership have had problems with superintendent eddie johnson. his decision to snub president trump for them was the last straw. they issued a statement that a a no confidence vote of johnson had been taken. superintendent johnson stated he will avoid president trump when he comes to chicago to speak to the international association of chiefs of police. through the chicago police p.r. team johnston issued a statement reading i can't in good conscience stand by while racial insults and hatred are

cast from the oval office or chicago is held hostage because of our views on new americans. another incident happened earlier this month. the superintendent was found slumped over the wheel of his official car just a few blocks from his home. initially the superintendent said he to home when i began feeling the same way i felt that day when we did the press conference in inglewood a couple of years ago. out of an abundance of caution i pulled over to the side and stopped. even though i was relatively close to home. should i have had a driver with me last night? >> the superintendent later told mayor lori light foot he had a couple of drinks with dinner before that happened. he was hired by emmanuel. >> bill: thank you, mike tobin. we'll catch it from here in chicago. >> sandra: help me out, hemmer. game two of the world series kicking off in spectacular

fashion last night. olympic gymnast doing a back flip twist amazing before throwing out the first pitch that was also awesome. after that the washington nationals beating up on the astros. the nats winning 12-3 to take a 2-0 series lead. game three is tomorrow night on fox. congratulations all those nationals fans. you waited for it. >> bill: they didn't predict that one. houston has had a great year. to go down 2-0 on home. >> sandra: how did you like the flip and the toss? he has an arm

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northern syria. the u.s. lifting sanctions on turkey as the turkish and russian troops move into that area. fox news contributor dan hoffman former c.i.a. station chief. good morning to you. you've served all over the world. what is your take on what we learned from yesterday so far? >> well, we've learned a lot from the congress and their sentiment. totally understandable they want to sanction turkey for ethnic displacement of the kurds and the work they're doing with russia, syria and iran. we also heard from ambassador special envoy for syria jim jeffrey whom i know was ambassador to iraq. he expressed some concern about some isis prisoners escaping. and the lack of leverage frankly that we have now in the region after having removed our troops. he did say that even if our troops had remained they would not have blocked that turkish incursion. >> bill: i'm looking at the wicked brew. how do you solve this?

the quote from the president yesterday was the blood-stained sands of that region. what is your solution? >> we have to look first at our national security interests. first and foremost it's about insuring that isis doesn't represent a threat to the united states in that region and beyond. there are roughly 10,000 prisoners, 2,000 of whom are foreign fighters who made their way to syria through turkey and 15,000 to 18,000 isis fighters at large. iran and syria provided safe haven to al qaeda. i don't think turkey or russia has the will or capability to target isis. we were relying on the kurds and that was working pretty well. now we'll have to look for some other options and while i understand the sentiment to target turkey with sanctions, i think we don't have a whole lot of options there but to maybe ourselves try to drive a wedge between turkey and its enemies. turkey and iran, turkey and syria and russia are all

working together but strategic enemies and that's also a concern. >> bill: let me roll this in. liz cheney's statement. it's a mistake. i think our retreat from syria enables the rise of isis and isis and direct threat to the homeland. turkey ought to face consequences for invading syria. senator kennedy the republican from louisiana. >> people with good intentions make promises. people with character keep them. now, the kurds are our allies. friends don't let friends get massacreed. president erdogan hates the kurds and i don't think president putin cares one way or the other. >> bill: "wall street journal" editorial board. erdogan's clean sweep. turkey gets what it wants in syria and trump lifts sanctions. i don't know how you feel about the cease-fire. the way it was characterized yesterday nothing is permanent

in this part of the world. you agree with that. what's the possibility of the progress of yesterday holding for tomorrow? >> i'm concerned because we did have a really good way of managing isis which was to work with the kurds. that was the advantage we had with them. they have the language and the knowledge of the terrain and we were providing buffer between them and turkey. air support and intelligence. we don't have that anymore. i don't see that there is any actor in that region who is going to take the fight to isis. as a result, the region will suffer and with all of the competition for those oil and agricultural resources in northern syria, isis will regenerate. that's the concern. it is over to the trump administration now to prove that they have a strategy to deal with isis, to deal with turkey as our nato ally and insure turkey doesn't fall into russia's orbit. putin is israel's friend and friend to iran, syria and

turkey and something we need to deal with. >> bill: what is your understanding about the american forces who will stay in southern syria? how many, what will their job be? >> that's a small number. frankly, minimal job for them to do at this point. the concern is about i had lib and assad taking the fight there and using this latest cease-fire as an opportunity to do that and northern syria and where isis remains. i just feel that without our presence there we are going to lack the eyes on the target that have been so incredibly valuable us to. >> bill: let's hope for the best. dan hoffman, thank you for your analysis. thank you for coming back today. >> sandra: another round of power outages in california as a vicious new fire tears through the state. where is the worst of it right now? plus a heart stopping moment for one family after their stroller is almost hit by that car. we'll have that for you next. dropping to near record lows, my team at newday usa

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>> bill: unbelievable moment caught on camera. this couple in arizona pushing a stroller across the road at night. watch here. a jeep runs a red light. comes through the intersection. another car crashes into the jeep a few feet away from the family. police say the second car may have saved the baby's life and more. the driver of the jeep has been arrested for dui from arizona. >> sandra: tough to watch. then you see the family just able to walk away. >> bill: you were watching that earlier. the jeep fled the scene. eventually caught was held accountable. glad they're okay. out of control wildfire north of san francisco as california begins the second round of planned power outages affecting hundreds of thousands of

customer there. we're reporting live from geyserville, california. >> good morning, sandra. the fir just exploded overnight going from 3,000 to more than 10,000 acres in a matter of hours. pushed by very strong winds. fueled by dry grass and vegetation. right now the entire town of geyserville is being evacuated. some 800 or so people because as you mentioned this fire is growing and burning out of control along a ridge line here in geyserville near wineries and homes. we understand several structures have been damaged and winds are gusting up to 70 miles an hour in some of the higher elevations. once the sun comes up fire officials hope to start making water drops but they can only do that once the weather here lets up. winds really need to be less than 30 miles an hour or those water drops won't make a difference. while we don't know what sparked this fire, this is exactly what the utility company in this region was hoping to prevent by shutting off the power for the second

time this month. pacific gas & electric says pulling the plug reduces the risk of wildfires started by the company's equipment. the black-outs began yesterday afternoon in the sierra nevada foothills. moved south to the bay area. in all pg&e cut power to parts of 17 counties affecting 450,000 people in fire prone areas can including geyserville. fires still happen and now this fire has scorched 15 square miles. forecasters say the winds should start dying down later in afternoon. pg&e hopes to restore power within 48 hours. you can here the sirens and see the entire town now evacuating. another strong wind event even stronger than this one is in the forecast for this weekend along with the chance of another forced blackout. we'll keep an eye on this fire and give you updates throughout

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so you can... retire better. >> sandra: fox news alert. speculation growing that another familiar name could enter the 2020 race. welcome to a brand-new hour of "america's newsroom." i'm sandra smith. >> bill: good morning to you, smitty. i'm bill hemmer. former advisor refusing to rule out -- for hillary clinton. the comments adding fuel to the fire that after two failed tries clinton could make one morbid for the white house. talking to tucker carlson about that last night. >> she really likes a lot of the people running. she thought about some for her vice presidentsy. there is a reason she might be the best person to beat donald trump and govern after him. you can make fun of her all you want. 65 million people voted for her.

>> bill: peter doocy has the follow-up from des moines, iowa. hello to you. what are you hearing? >> good morning, bill. back in march hillary clinton said she was not running. as the primary process has played out she is thinking like she did back in 2008 and 2016. >> she ran for president because she thought she would be the best president. if she still thought that now and thought she had the best odds of beating donald trump i think she would think about it long and hard. >> she hasn't foreclosed the possibility. >> no, she has not. >> she has already accused one democratic candidate of being groomed by russia to help president trump. late last night the frontrunner joe biden stood up for tulsi gabbard and tried to reason with what clinton was getting at. >> my guess is that hillary is so frustrated with what the russians did in her campaign and they are still doing not necessarily with tulsi gabbard but still doing in this campaign, everybody knows it.

we're doing nothing about it. >> "the new york times" reported this week big name democrats like clinton could enter the race because they're queasy elizabeth warren may be too progressive to beat trump and biden is struggling. he condemned president trump for comparing impeachment to lynching before admitting he said the same thing almost 20 years ago. >> mr. vice president, when you called president trump despicable for compare impeachment to linking did you know there was a tape of you saying the same thing? >> yes and i apologized for it. what i wasn't using as a dog whistle. he is using it as a dog whistle. >> if hillary clinton decides she has seen enough she has to get in by the end of this year if she wants to be on primary ballots everywhere. >> bill: thank you, peter doocy in des moines. thank you, sir. >> sandra: let's bring in our a-team. jessica tarlov, david asman anchor of bulls an bears and

charlie hurt opinion editor for the washington times. what do you think, charlie? another name entering the race? >> i hope so. i think it would be really fun to watch hillary clinton lose a third time. but whether or not she looks at the field and says you have these people running on socialism and all these sort of crazy ideas that won't work out in a general election i could really go in there and straighten things out. whether she is serious about that or not we don't know. it does go to sort of this idea that in so many of these politicians they really all do think they're the answer. they are always the answer. so whether she is doing that or just desperate for attention, who knows? >> bill: where do you think it's coming from, jess? >> people like us sitting on panels like this. she is on book tour and she will be talking. a poll from cnn showed

democrats are more satisfied with their options today than they were in 2008 and in 2016. this is something that is being pushed by people with big egos, people in a bloomberg camp, hillary clinton, and this also happens with democrats all the time. remember when general wesley clark got in? the voters are satisfied with their choices and i do not see hillary clinton. >> bill: number four "new york times." anxious democrats is there anybody else? party leaders worried about dem chances and musing late entrance to the race. >> if there is anybody who doesn't have big ego. is there anybody? if hillary clinton runs and why she won't or be convinced not to, the whole russia thing with trump is dead because there is so much evidence of her

relations and the clinton foundation's relations and bill clinton's relations with underhanded, questionable russians and there is a ukraine connection. so many things about hillary's past that would be brought to bear it would make the trump claims about biden look like kindergarten. >> one thing is also important to remember i don't know about these polls. i distrust all polls pretty much all the time but i think the evidence that voters are dissatisfied with the field is if you look at joe biden. the fact that he is still doing very, vel well despite having run the worst campaign possible. the reason is because people look at these other candidates and they are like i don't buy into any of this stuff. so biden is like this place holder for somebody who is sane. i still think that sane person will at some point. >> i think it's more complicated than that. joe biden is the only candidate

with substantial support from minorities and democrats can't get to the white house without the support of the black community. the most reliable voting block. >> it brings you back to the economy. you have the best unemployment record for african-americans, for minorities under president trump than under any president in the past 20 years. >> what is his approval rating with the black community? >> it has become such a key issue not only in terms of the trump campaign but has to be something that somehow biden tried to deal with it a little bit this week in suggesting once again that it was he and president obama who were responsible for the good economy. i disagree with that fundamentally. the point is somehow democrats will have to deal with the economy. when they do they have to face these very good records on jobs during the trump presidency. >> sandra: donna brazile described the situation as far as the frontrunner status as fluid yesterday. the latest quinnipiac poll. warren polling 28% to biden 21%.

cnn's democratic poll has joe biden the frontrunner at 34% with quite a lead over elizabeth warren at 19%. sanders, 16, buttigieg and harris in single digits. >> sandra: the average since the last debate. >> it's 8.5 percentage point lead for joe biden here. he is clearly maintaining frontrunner status. elizabeth warren's surge continues and certainly in that conversation. as democrats remain focused on the question of electability arg bments the feasibility of elizabeth warren winning a general election. >> bill: we're 3 1/2 months from everybody casting a ballot. after the iowa caucus you say we never saw that. the story will change entirely. kevin mccarthy late last night talking about the right to see -- as i roll this, lindsey graham right now is introducing

a resolution that would condemn the closed-door illegitimate impeachment inquiry is where it's worded coming from capitol hill. that might pass in the senate. first kevin mccarthy from yesterday. >> these are duly elected members of congress. people have leant their voice to for two years to represent them and they are denied from going into a meeting? they will have to vote on this. but they aren't given any information? what is adam schiff hiding and why is he afraid to show the american public? >> the american people have a right to see this as we've done everywhere before. >> bill: this from the "wall street journal." schiff's secret bombshell. if the testimony is so bad for trump why not make it public? >> that's a good point. the reason we have these processes in place is not just to have processes in place, but it is because it's the way to fairly get at the truth. if these people actually want to get to the truth, then do it out in the open and do it fairly. what they are talking about

doing is not an attack on donald trump, it's an attack on the american voter. they are talking about trying to undo an election and if they have a case that is so great that can justify that come out with it and let us all see it. >> bill: undoing an election with a secret inquisition is the republican charge. it is looking for and more like what it is. it is looking more and more like a kangaroo court where only the bad stuff leaks out. the stuff that might be exonerating of trump and the trump administration is being withheld. ambassador taylor's testimony, very strong stuff. 15 pages, some very strong charges here suggesting it was a direct quid pro quo, suggestions that perhaps john bolton was worried about the same things. i think he may be forced to testify. again, what you didn't see -- you saw the testimony but what you didn't see were any counter charges to ambassador taylor. was any cross examination? if it's a court of law.

what distinguishes a kangaroo court. there is no cross examination. if there is a cross examination republicans say it would undermine some of what taylor is saying here but we haven't seen it. >> sandra: what did you think of republicans leading the charge into the private room? >> inasmuch as they're having to play this out sort of in the court of public opinion i think it is a good thing. it draws attention to the fact that this is entirely unprecedented the way democrats are running this process. and it is designed to go after somebody as opposed to trying to get to the truth of something. >> schiff did claim this hearing was non-classified so why did he have it in a scif? >> bill: it says storm the meeting on screen, did you see those guys? storming the beaches there. walking down the stairs. there are questions too about the credibility of the whistleblower again, jess.

we know he or she is a registered democrat. had a prior work history with a senior democrat who that is we do not know. and now there is a suggestion about possible bias also identified when they initially reported. is the credibility of the whistleblower? how critical could that be? >> it has absolutely nothing to do with what is going on because the whistleblower's complaint has been corroborated a number of times. bill taylor's testimony. the read-out of the call or the memorandum. the president of the united states of america confessed to the crime on television and mick mulvaney did it on television again. to your point, david how we're only hearing things leaking out for the benefit of democrats. george kent's testimony. a long-time state department employee said he raised concerns in 2015 about hunter biden's position with burisma and joe biden's team had said we can't deal with this right now. he is dealing with the prolonged illness of his season, boe. we have to move aside. that wasn't good for democrats.

we had a whole news cycle about a state department employee finding what joe biden was doing to be an issue. can i say something about the scif? not only is it a national security breach to bring in electronic devices. we know it happened. >> bill: we were told they left their phones outside. video of them walking through the doors. >> sandra: they left their fit bit watches on. >> it was intentional. they ordered pizza down there, chick-fil-a. it was absurd. it's the rules, judge napolitano was on "fox & friends" this morning say you can thank john boehner for this who passed the rules in 2015 signed by a republican majority. hold on. we had a special counsel report which we don't have. >> one thing. i just want to say schiff did claim that nothing in these hearings would be classified. therefore, why have it in a scif unless you are just trying

to have tremendous control over all the information that is said inside that? and only leak out the bad stuff. >> sandra: it's a very secret room, very highly contained -- >> it is for classified information. >> bill: stand by, go ahead. >> at the end of the day we can argue about all the process and this kind of stuff. at the end of the day you had a telephone call between two leaders. both of those leaders, both the supposed criminal and the supposed victim of this whatever quid pro quo thing you want to call it which democrats still can't enunciate what the crime is here. >> i can do it. >> both people say it didn't happen. going through everybody in the state department drank all these people out to give their opinion about what they -- how they will interpret this phone call is absolutely meaningless. you are not going to be able to win an impeachment. >> as david pointed out 15

pages. taylor is unimpeachable character. >> bill: two minutes to get in one more topic. that's what happened on the hill yesterday with mark zuckerberg. >> less interested but i'm ready. >> i'm interested. >> bill: here is the exchange maxine waters. >> you plan on doing no fact checking on political ads. >> chairwoman, our policy is that we do not fact check politicians' speech and the reason for that is that we believe that in a democracy, it is important that people can see for themselves what politicians are saying. political speech is some of the most scrutinized speech already in the world. >> bill: did he help himself or not or did it matter? >> i don't think it matters one

bit. it is fun watching politicians complain to mark zuckerberg on national television. but he has a point there. america is supposed to be a country of grown-ups and you don't have free speech is supposed to dominate and you can't -- i don't understand this idea that why you would even want facebook in charge of determining what is true and what is not true. >> right. how many politicians lie? the answer is -- the only thing that's 100% in our country. the fact is also that a lot of the political fact checkers get it wrong because their own bias slips in. who will do the fact checking? zuckerberg has it right. i do think he lost. what he was trying to do is gain more support for libra for his cryptocurrency. with how many billion users he has on facebook imagine if every one of them could

immediately go through his currency in order to make a transaction. that would double his income as big as it is. >> he did terribly and i think he always does terribly in these hearings. everyone -- >> not worse than the politicians. >> people wanted to talk about l -- >> would i be able to run advertisements on facebook targeting republicans in primaries saying they voted for the green new deal? if you aren't fact checking that i'm trying to understand the bounds. what is fair game? >> i don't know the answer to that off the top of my head. >> you don't know. >> i think she really got to the heart of it. >> i think probably. >> the idea that you could run a completely untrue ad that a republican had voted for the green new deal is something the

republican you are targeting would have a problem with but it is still false. >> aoc that would be a fact checker is laughable. >> she is a very good questioner. katie porter. >> considering her bias, the idea that she would be a fact checker i think is laughable. >> bill: we've all reached agreement on this and many more. thank you jessica, charlie, david. congratulations on the nats, charlie. >> two more to go. >> bill: good luck, see you later. another settlement in the opioid epidemic. charles payne will break it down in a moment. >> sandra: the president touting a victory in syria. how long will turkey provide by the conditions of that cease-fire? we're live at the pentagon with the latest next. >> because we got a letter yesterday morning from them from turkey saying that they would agree to a cease-fire permanently. but they have given us their word and so we will lift sanctions. now, if they go back on their

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>> bill: the u.s. secretary of defense overseas has the leader of turkey in his sights after president trump declared success in eastern syria what he pointed to as a permanent

cease-fire, as permanent as one can be in that part of the world. democrats and some republicans raising questions about the announcement from yesterday. >> it's too early to me to be congratulated. but we've done a good job. we've saved a lot of lives. >> it is one of the worst decisions in decades. it puts americans here in the homeland in danger. >> this is a fluid situation. i have no doubt we will be tested in the days to come. >> bill: so that from yesterday. this from today. lucas tomlinson watching the action at the pentagon. >> u.s. officials tell me the cease-fire is largely holding and to help keep the peace the pentagon is weighing a decision to add tanks to eastern syria to help secure the oil fields that president trump wants secured. that means adding more troops. in brussels his defense secretary called out his nato ally. >> turkey put us all in a terrible situation. i think the incursion was unwarranted and i think president erdogan was fixated

making this incursion for one reason or another. and there was not a possibility that we were going to start a war with a nato ally. the direction of turkey with regard to alliance is heading in the wrong direction. >> bill: the top kurdish general of the syrian democratic forces accused turkey of violating it. in spite of the turk's announcement they continue to launch attacks on the eastern front. the guarantors of the cease-fire but reign in the turks. the u.s. on capitol hill the president's special envoy acknowledging pulling all troops out of syria would have been a mistake. >> we had troops there for a mission to defeat isis. if you remove those troops before that mission is complete, then you have a problem. and we do have a problem right now. we're working our way through it. >> what will we do with the oil fields? that's a really good question. we're really working hard on it.

we do not have an answer at this time. >> defense secretary esper says 100 out of 10,000 isis captives have escaped. president trump said they've been recaptured. others say they aren't so sure. >> sandra: a judge setting a deadline for the state department to hand over records related to ukraine and the president's personal attorney rudy giuliani. what is in those documents? we're live in washington next. >> bill: republicans demanding full access on the inquiry. democrats calling it a stunt. will we see more transparency soon? our headliner dr. bill bennett will talk to us next. >> they intend to overturn the results of an american presidential election. we want to know what's going on. >> they're doing it because this is what the guilty do. innocent people cooperate with investigations. innocent people follow the rules of the house.

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>> sandra: fox news alert now. we're just getting word from capitol hill that south carolina senator lindsey graham is planning to hold a news conference this afternoon to introduce a resolution condemning house democrats' illegitimate closed door impeachment inquiry coming a day after the house republicans staged that protest of the inquiry disrupting a meeting to demand full transparency. let's bring in our headliner dr. bill bennett. he joins us now. host of wise guys on fox nation. his new book out this week america, the last best hope. dr. bennett. good morning and welcome. thank you for being here. lindsey graham and other republicans making it very clear they don't approve of this closed-door impeachment inquiry and the secrecy behind it and now he plans to act this afternoon with that. your reaction. >> i think he is right and the republicans are right transparency is what's needed.

when you have these closed hearings it is certainly not transparent. doesn't look very good. at the same time i think there are stunts going on on both sides. not a big fan of marching into the scif. thought it was a little stagey. let's get to the merits of this thing. the president did not do anything which is impeachable even on the democrats' interpretation that he said okay, let's look into the biden circumstance. i think after reading the transcript the emphasis was clearly on the 2016 election and pursuing the justice department's investigation of that. but remember the founders talked about high crimes and misdemeanors, yes. the house has the power to impeach. it can impeach on anything. it can say the president likes his steak well done with ketchup and it is terrible. but it has to be plausible. it has to be believable. here is the punch line. all of foreign policy is quid pro quo and in this case there was no quid as john ratcliffe

pointed out. the aid was given. so let's get on with it. one other thing. people are forgetting that other things are going to come out very soon. you'll have the horowitz report, inspector general from justice. the durham report that has got international repercussions. this could really make what's going on right now seem pretty small and the democrats will be very much on defense. >> bill: do they go forward with it based on your answer there? >> i think they do. i think they're committed, yeah. i think they're committed to it. and notice what that does, bill. that goes into january. with a few more delays they can take the entire four years of the trump administration and have a record that all they did for four years was try to undo the democratic election. that's not going to look very good for them november 6 to me. >> sandra: you see stunts on

both sides. the "washington post" headline house democrats look to take impeachment probe public as soon as mid-november. while all this is taking place and republicans are storming the private room yesterday on capitol hill staging a sit-in, ordering pizza, meanwhile democrats say we are going to take this public and that they plan to. this is as one republican pointed out earlier the first that we're hearing of that. >> let's get to it public and then let's discuss the merits and then let's see if this is fulfills one of the standards laid down by the founders. hamilton says in federal of 65, impeachment should never be just a party issue, one party animated to do something to the sitting president. it looks pretty much like that. let's discuss this on the merits and i think the american people will. they already know the content of the transcript. when this thing is debated, it will be debated i suppose before the senate, then they

can make their decision. >> bill: are you seeing any -- >> this president won't be removed on this basis. >> bill: are you seeing any cracks in the republican wall as you reflect on the senate now? >> what i'm seeing is cautionary comments based on what might happen in the future. keep your options open. there are a couple of senators who have done that but i think they will fall back in line. there are a couple of people who said i don't know if this is really serious. i don't think it is really serious because you go back to the 2016 when senator menendez and durbin and leahy sent a letter to the ukrainian government said aid is in question here unless you help us find out what went on in this election. so again that's very similar to what they are accusing the president of. i don't think there is a there there. a poet said that about oakland, california. i don't think there is a there here. i don't think there is anything

substantial that you can hang the president on. >> sandra: dr. bennett meanwhile a lot of reaction pouring into the president's big announcement yesterday around this time that a permanent cease-fire had been reached in the region and that sanctions would be lifted on turkey. a lot of criticism to the president's move especially when it comes to lifting those sanctions on turkey if any lessons will have been learned. >> yeah. well unfortunate situation. i hesitate to discue the president but i do on this one. this was a mistake. maybe he had no choice. erdogan looked like he was going to go after the kurds. were we going to risk war with a nato ally? i guess we're not. but we are now looking at a future, the security of which is in the hands of the russians, the turks, maybe the iranians to some degree. and assad. that's not a very secure group

of peacekeepers if you ask me. i predict that the number of troops who were removed. many of them went to iraq, they didn't come home, will soon be greater in syria than it was before. you have to protect the oil fields. you had a segment about the need to protect the oil fields. bringing in american tanks. you need men in those tanks. and the situation is volatile. it will blow up again. erdogan really hates these turks. these are different turks than the turks who fought alongside us in iraq. some of them are and some are marxist but they fought isis. the kurds. and they fought isis and did the brunt of the fighting. so whatever their ideological disposition these are people we relied on and made promises to. >> bill: one last thing here. rumors that hillary clinton is thinking about it, musing about

it. can you see that happening? >> well, the washington nationals are up 2-0 and they're coming home. what was the question? i don't know. you know, i have to tell you i think jessica tarlov was saying earlier i think the democratic base is pretty happy with these ideas even though they are way over the left. the party has shifted. i think they like this group. but 22, 23. if you have a dinner party does it matter that much, one more place setting? >> sandra: do you think the party would welcome any newcomers? >> well, some would. but there are a lot of democrats who don't want to see hillary clinton ever again and that looks like that wish is not going to come through. what did they say at the end of the exorcists for god sake, can you get out? can we get the clintons out once and for all? >> bill: great to have you back

today. federal judge ordering the state department to comply with a request for documents related to the president's attorney rudy giuliani and ukraine. what is this about? rich edson has more from the state department on that story. what is it about? >> good morning, bill. a judge is giving the state department 30 days to produce these documents. those relating to the president's attorney rudy giuliani and any efforts to pressure the ukrainian government to investigate the bidens and the early recall of the u.s. ambassador in ukraine. that would be ambassador marie yovanovitch. it is american oversight group. they say it's an important victory for the american people's right to know the facts about ukraine and it is a major setback for the white house's stonewalling. the court recognized the importance of these documents and the need for the state department to rapidly release them. several former obama administration officials lead american oversight. they are asking for any related communications between secretary of state mike pompeo and giuliani. it's already the focus of the

impeachment inquiry in congress. democrats accused giuliani of leading an effort to withhold security assistance from ukraine unless its new president launched a poiltically motivated investigation into the bidens. and for leading a campaign to remove the u.s. ambassador in ukraine before her term ended. american oversight has another lawsuit against the state department. it also wants records from the former u.s. envoy to ukraine kurt vol ker. he resigned from state after text messages between volker and giuliani surfaced. the group is also suing the energy department for contacts between outgoing secretary rick perry had with ukrainian officials. state department has no comment on the judge's ruling nor these additional lawsuits. bill. >> bill: rich edson state department. we will watch it. >> sandra: another big step in tackling the opioid crisis in this country as multiple states have reached a settlement worth hundreds of millions of dollars. >> bill: christmas in october.

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>> bill: fox news business alert. six states reaching a $700 million settlement with a major drug distributor following an investigation for its role in the ongoing opioid epidemic. charles payne host of "making money with charles payne". >> new york, california, indiana, ohio, virginia, washington, this is one of the distributors, part of the 1.4 billion package we heard recently. here is the thing. $700 million. 500 million goes to the federal government. 200 million will be divided by the states. my whole thing with all of these things when governments go to court and they win this

money on behalf of the american victims, when does it help the victims, right? >> bill: can i stop you? $500 million of the $700 million goes to the federal government? how come? >> i guess they get the big. i think -- >> bill: what does the government do with that money? >> that's my point. $72 million will go to medicaid in new york. another $40 million. the victims of all of this. the people that bought into it, when do they get any money? we went through this with the whole wall street thing. they fine the wall street banks tens of billions of dollars. no one got a house back. i don't understand what this is all about. it's punitive. maybe you teach these businesses a lesson but it feels weird it is on behalf of the american public that i don't think see any of the money. what about prevention? what is this money going to go toward that solves the opioid

crisis itself? >> sandra: that's a big question. >> bill: a few counties in northern ohio in trial now. this is something to watch. at the same time in ohio the political leaders in columbus will tell you the opioid epidemic in the buckeye state is as bad today as it was two years ago. how can you talk about settlements when the epidemic is still alive? >> the money is used properly to help those who are currently addicted and find ways of curbing the crisis itself is one thing. the problem is the money gets into the government coffers, smaller municipalities and large ones. new york state has promised a lot of things to a lot of people. california is a welfare state with open borders. you know, this money is expungeable and it goes other places. >> bill: some people need the pain relief and fast. >> my wife had 11 heart

operations. she had six defibrillators, three ablation. one a very horrific operation. it is so painful. she would beg for pain medicines all night long. so i understand. i understand that there is a delicate balancing act. they did create these pain medicines initially for a reason. they just undersold wink wink maybe deliberately their addictiveness. seven years since my wife's last surgery and she is doing good. >> sandra: wal-mart. what is going on here? they aren't waiting for halloween now? it is already about christmas? >> i will say this, there are six fewer shopping days this year. so they do have to do it a little bit earlier. also the american public is flush. they've got wages are up, job security is there. take advantage of it. >> sandra: here is what's happening. early deals will drop and be available online and in stores

starting friday october 25th, i believe that's tomorrow. >> bill: pretty exciting. halloween stuff has been flying off the shelves. the few empty stores that i see in jersey a lot of been converted to holl wean shops and immediately after that they'll be christmas shops. >> bill: are you predicting a big season? >> absolutely. >> bill: or is it truncated because of a shorter season? >> it will be big. people will celebrate the holidays. >> sandra: i'm okay with the deals. some people need to spread out how they spend their money and budget leading up to christmas. it helps to plan. however, can we wait on the christmas music? that's all i ask. >> bill: decorations? >> sandra: wait until after thanksgiving. >> bill: i hate when they stop playing it. >> january 3rd and then they're not playing them anymore. i miss those. >> bill: we're planning our christmas party. go ahead and give us your

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>> taking it day-by-day and enjoying what i have. i don't know what the future holds. the great part is, you know, for me football at this point is all borrowed time. >> sandra: questions about the future for six-time super bowl champ and future hall of famer tom brady. >> i think he would be going to the team of retirement from professional football. he signed a new contract. listed his home for sale and

his trainer. the patriots have a record of 7-0. yesterday who tom brady said i'm holding an hourglass and i just turned it over. i don't think he knows how much sand is in the hourglass but i think the glass has been turned over. >> bill: we're 7-0. >> he is a human being. >> bill: kind of what his coach bill belichick would say. >> maybe he is at a different point in his career. i would look beyond tom brady. when does it end? i thought of this earlier. a crowded restaurant, are they ordering dessert or asking for the check? i don't know what brady is doing. i don't think he is sitting down to eat. >> bill: i don't see him leaving that team as long as belichick is the head coach? >> i do. want to bet? >> bill: if belichick the there, brady is there. he is the leader of the team on the field. >> sandra: let's speculate to where would he go? >> as far as another team? retirement. i think he goes toward retirement and bring the training centers to new york and be not far from us within

12 months. i think this will probably be his last nfl season. i could be wrong. i don't think he plays to 45. >> bill: the whole thing about i don't know what the future holds opens the door to all this speculation. >> sandra: fair enough. the nationals crushing the astros 12-3. commanding lead of the world series. did anybody see this one coming? >> the astros were the largest world series favorite in 12 years. the nationals up 2-0 are a larger favorite than the astros were to start. there is such popularity about the nationals in our nation's capital. tickets to get into the next game tomorrow. first time they have a world series game in d.c. since 1933. stub hub they're going for almost $1,000. it will cost a lot of money to get there. the nats have won eight straight games. the astros pitchers are the first since drysdale and koufax

to lose the first two on the road. >> verlander the ace for the astros got roughed up last night and came out cold. >> 10 runs with three home runs. the nationals look very good. it will be tough to silence that crowd. >> sandra: care to make a wager on this? >> it's not over yet. just like people thought they won the first two games in houston. i think the nationals should win the series but maybe not. >> bill: i hope we get seven games. >> that $1 bet was monopoly money. breaking news from the hill. >> the casket of elijah cummings arriving on the east front of the capitol building and lie in state at the statuary hall. the funeral will be held in baltimore tomorrow, friday. yesterday the former congressman who passed away suddenly at the age of 68 a

week ago was in morgan state university where his body was laying yesterday. the choir from that school will sing and then remarks will be made by the house speaker today. we want to share that with you happening in our nation's capitol. a quick break here. back in a moment after this. so every veteran can save $2000 a year.

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newsroom." i'm sandra smith. >> bill: i'm bill hemmer. congressional leaders boat sides of the aisle will pay tributes to cummings who died last week at the age of 68. the public will have the chance to pay their respects a bit later today. chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel picks up our coverage from the hill now. hello. >> good morning to you. this will be a very public farewell to a long-time lawmaker in the house. you have leaders from both the house and senate. members of the congressional black caucus and other dignitaries on hand to pay their respects and say farewell to chairman elijah cummings. there will be bipartisan replaying and performance from the morgan university choir. the casket arrived on the east front of the united states capitol a short time ago. cummings served in the house of representatives from 1996 until his passing one week ago. this afternoon cummings will lie in state in the capitol allowing colleagues and the public to pay their respects.

>> chairman cummings asked us when we're dancing with the angels the question will be what did we do to make sure we kept our democracy intact? he is now with the angels. out of pain. >> bill: cummings had his share of feisty moments on the house oversight committee for years. the house republican leader offered this tribute to cummings being a leader and fighter for what he believed. >> i only heard respect for how he carried out the business. we respected him because he was good. we respect him because he beat us many times. respect him because of what he fought for he believed in. >> tomorrow the funeral will take place up the road in baltimore. among the dignitaries expected to speak former presidents barack obama and bill clinton.

>> bill: thank you as we watch this ceremony here. over to sandra across the room now. >> sandra: we'll be hearing from house speaker nancy pelosi, mitch mcconnell. steny hoyer, members of congress from both sides of the aisle as we watch his casket arrive on the steps of the capitol. more with juan williams co-host of the five and political analyst. your thoughts as we look on. >> you know, the thing about elijah cummings i think most people will remember him from the freddie gray situation in baltimore where he acted really as the senior kind of statesman, the adult male in the room literally walking the streets with a bull horn, locked arm-in-arm with others singing "this little light of mine" the calm people and speaking to people about his own grief. but in a way acting as a father figure for the entire city. in washington as i said 12 terms in the house of

representatives. chairman of the house oversight and reform committee. and as such known for tangling with republicans on irs, benghazi, most lately in terms of the trump impeachment concern and even arguing with the president about security clearances for white house personnel. but again i think at this moment it is just so important to take a second and realize that this was a kid who was the son of a maid and chemical plant worker, parents born sharecroppers in south carolina. he was inspired -- the funny thing he once told me he was inspired by perry mason. when he was a kid in the 50s and 60s his thing was perry mason and wanted to be a lawyer. he went to howard university in washington, d.c. class president. goes to the university of maryland and 20 years as a private lawyer before joining the maryland state legislature.

first black pro-tem speaker and running in 199 for the house seat maryland's seventh district. >> sandra: his casket has entered to lie in state in statuary hall of the capitol ahead of his funeral in baltimore on friday. as you mentioned, long-time congressman, civil rights leader. frequent foe of the president as well. we saw many public displays as the chairman on the committee that he took on the president. he took the president on head many occasions, juan. >> he did especially on the clearance issue which prompted the president to say that cummings should pay more attention to what the president characterized as his rat-infested district. cummings did not fire back in kind. he said he was doing his job as a member of congress to make sure that security clearances were being given properly not over the objections of the administration, the people who are in charge of that.

by the way, sandra, i thought i would mention today one of the speakers will be mark meadows. i just think that's so important especially for our audience to understand here is mark meadows, the conservative republican and who had been in a contentious situation with tlaib, a new congresswoman who is black she said something as if she was accusing meadows of possibly being racist and cummings stopped the hearing and said i think you want to rephrase it to tlaib and said mark meadows is one of my best friends. it was a moment of unity that then led meadows and tlaib to be seen hugging and coming back together. and so many people even trey gowdy who he did combat with on the benghazi hearing was later able to say there are lots of people that i argue with and i think they're reading from talking points memos. when i argue with elijah cummings that's what he really believes.

it is coming from his soul. to have your critics, to have people on the other side in these politically polarized times able to see you as a human being and respect your argument is why you're seeing people like mark meadows speak at elijah cummings' memorial here in statutory hall in the capitol today. >> sandra: member of both the house and senate will be speaking today. members of both sides of the aisle to your point. house speaker nancy pelosi we will hear from in addition to house majority leader steny hoyer. you mention mark meadows, the republican from north carolina. we'll also hear from senate majority leader mitch mcconnell. the republican from kentucky will also be speaking. >> it is just so much out of step with the times, sandra, that you would see both parties come together to show respect for someone. i think it's really reflective of who elijah cummings was and how he is remembered that he stood apart, that someone who

had such gravitas and soul to him. someone seen as standing for what is right and principled, even if you disagreed with his principle, able to make that case with his booming voice and again, i think that in terms of american history, i think people are going to remember him as the guy who was trying to keep it right. he once said that the greatest gift we can give to future generations is our democracy. protecting our democracy and making sure that it's functioning fairly for all. >> sandra: we look back at so many members of congress gathering there in statuary hall in the capitol to pay their respects and say goodbye to elijah cummings. he will be buried in baltimore tomorrow. his funeral will take place. baltimore a city that he loved and we heard him in his final days speak out so much about the city and the changes that

are needed. >> baltimore is a town with a high poverty rate. 24%. you can go into baltimore and see they're having trouble especially in the black -- poor black neighborhoods. and here is elijah cummings who said that he lived in that neighborhood where he grew up in west baltimore. his district extended up towards columbia, maryland and the like the poverty in his -- in the area where he lived is not reflective of the entire district. the district is actually pretty affluent. he stayed there and said i want to make sure that all these young people on the block know me. he was easily accessible. that's one of his distinguishing characteristics. people would tell me yeah, i called elijah the other day to come over to a party and elijah showed up. people of that stature are so busy and yet elijah cummings was very intent on making sure that the young men, black men

on his block knew him, saw him every day and saw the way he worked and understood the way he related to people across all lines, class, race, and even people of such political power in the country. so for baltimore he was a luminous figure. i just can't tell you how much he meant to that city and it is why in a sense, you know, the state of maryland really is in grief over his passing. he could have run for the senate when barbara mckowski left. the set held by senator vice van hollen. he could have won that seat but it would have been contentious. he was of that stature. even though you are saying this is a congressman. he was chairman of oversight and reform but he is another member of congress. no, this was someone who really had raised his game above that and was respected in so many

circles, political circles, on the house but also as you point out mitch mcconnell coming over because of the respect in the senate and the maryland state legislature yesterday at morgan state where he served on the board. not only did the president of morgan state speak but the president of johns hopkins spoke at that memorial as well. >> sandra: members of congress gathering there in the capitol rotunda. you are talking about elijah cummings and what he meant to the city of baltimore and to maryland. i also hear what he meant to you. he is someone that had great influence and impact on you. >> i knew him in passing as a politician. we would have our arguments and everything like that but he was a mentor to so many young journalists. i think he had a sense of people coming into -- especially mt mid-90s when he first came he was trying to bring along other people. chairman of the congressional black caucus for several years

and showed a specific interest. it wasn't as if he was high and mighty. it was that he was trying to pull people in and always look out for people. he became a source and someone that i really trusted as a source because he didn't lie to you or spin you. this is so unusual. i like that a lot. i could use that. and so he was a trusted figure in that sense. again, we live in such highly polarized times and at times it can have a racial edge to it. i think what you'll see today. this is so different from our times is that you'll see a racially-mixed group of people and not just racially mixed but class mix. so poor people, people of affluence, people with power and with no power standing together across political aisles. republicans and democrats to say we honor this man. this spirit that he represented made us a better america. >> sandra: you know, you look at this moment and take this in

as you see so many of our country's most important figures gathering there to say their goodbyes and we'll hear from house speaker nancy pelosi a short time from now. if you could just reflect back on this moment and what his loss means for congress as we move forward during these very uncertain and very different times that we live in today. there is the speaker arriving on the hill and chuck schumer as well. >> right. i think what you are losing when you lose someone like this is you lose someone who could reach out and speak to the other side and have their respect and understand that we are trying to do what is right and what is best and even though we have strongly divergent political views and perspectives on events, try to communicate in a way that was not hostile and not intended to demeanor diminish people. and that is what elijah

cummings represented for so many. again, you look at his past, the parents growing up in south carolina, sharecroppers, chemical plant worker, maid, and parents of seven kids growing up in low-income area of baltimore to rise to this stature is so inspiring. [silence as casket is being brought into the room]

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congressional leaders to make remarks. we want to make mention of the body just brought in a moment lying in state on thursday. this is today national statutory hall at the u.s. capitol. baltimore knows him as a man who served that congressional district for 20 years. as juan williams pointed to a moment ago it was during the death of freddie gray what cummings took a position in his neighborhood to walk the sidewalks and streets at nighttime under the cover of darkness making sure that calm was restored. i do believe in the most recent days given his service from that part of maryland, that will be his legacy. >> it is so interesting that stands out to me as well, bill. because someone of his stature, someone who is a player in national politics, to understand there was a crisis at home and put himself at risk standing in the streets to speak to people engaged in

rioting and calm the situation. as i said walking the streets with a bull horn singing "this little light of mine." going over to counsel people and explain violence wasn't the way. he was a father figure in that city even as the city has been engaged in struggles especially in black baltimore. he was a leading light. the mayor of baltimore the other day while he was waiting in line the mayor, who people call him jack young. >> ladies and gentlemen, the hon -- >> bill: emmanuel cleaver the first to speak. >> let's pray. to the great god almighty who dwells in the shelter of the most high, we approach you as

frail and flawed creatures and request of thy enableling grace. our hearts are made heavy by the transition of our colleague, our family member, our loved one, the mahogany marylander elijah cummings as he has moved into the realm of the unseen. holy spirit, we are blessed to be in this spectacular and historic -- we gather in public service of one of your faithful sons who congressional and earthly assignment has been completed. we have now passed an aappropriate review of a man that even as the king of

terrorists drew nigh he continued his work to preserve our democracy. as the breaches in the ranks of congress appear more often than we care to contemplate, may those of us who remain in your wondrous world recognize your voice summoning us to put on our marching boots and move our nation toward the light of justice, self-awareness, goodness, and civility. may our march in the tradition of elijah and the other warriors of justice who now sleep with the elders give us the desire to think only the best, to see only the best, to say only the best, to do only the best, to legislate only the best and to model our only best. we acknowledge that we must do it now, oh lord, while it is day, because no member of congress regardless of public

adulation, religious affiliation, fundraising demonstration or public prays over their legislation can work with the night comes. almighty and everlasting god, as elijah is beginning his hallelujah dance may we look at his life for our dance lesson in the halls of death. even now, oh god, i can hear the victorious voice of yours, thundering down from the hallowed halls of heaven reminding us through the words of the songwriter, please save the last dance for me. amen. >> ladies and gentlemen, the honorable nancy pelosi speaker of the united states house of representatives.

>> please be seated. good morning. elijah cummings, son of sharecroppers, master of the house, it is my official and personal and sad honor to welcome chairman elijah cummings and all who loved him to this celebration of his life. thank you, mia for giving us this honor to say goodbye to elijah in this statuary hall of the house of representatives. elijah was truly a master of the house. he respected its history and in it he helped shape america's future. i have called him our north star, our guide to a better future for our children. elijah has said that our children are our living messengers to a future we will never see. for the children he wanted a future worthy of their

aspirations and true to the values of america. it was in defense of the children at the border that elijah said we can do better. it was he -- he was also a a mentor of the house. when we were deciding committee assignments he said give me as many freshmen as you can. i love their potential and i want to help them realize it. as a mentor he was always generous with credit giving members the opportunity to take the lead. he was not only -- he knew it was not only important to them but the fresh eyes, their fresh eyes were important to any decisions we made about america's future. in his chairmanship of the oversight and reform committee he lived up to the responsibility to exercise the congressional power of oversight of congress. thank you, elijah, on behalf of the future of our children and the future of america to be true to our beliefs. we say this to you as we are

gathered here today in the old house chamber where lincoln served. beneath the same clock lincoln heard ticking under the gaze of cleo. cleo reminds the men and women in the congress in these halls that we're part of history that our words and actions will be recorded, and the face of the judgment -- and face the judgment of history and that we are all part of a long and honorable heritage of our democracy. chairman cummings understood that. god truly blessed america with the life and legacy of elijah cummings. later i'm -- that's why i'm very grateful to leader mcconnell, leader schumer, leader mccarthy for agreeing to have elijah lie in repose on the same catapult that abraham lincoln lay in repose. at his death.

may elijah rest in peace. >> ladies and gentlemen, the honorable mitch mcconnell, majority leader of the united states senate. >> there are some people who come to washington because they are ambitious to leave their hometowns and then there are people who want to come to washington precisely because they will never leave their hometowns behind. elijah cummings did not just represent baltimore, he embodied it. he celebrated its victories, sought to advocate for its needs, and worked to heal its wounds. he knew there was only one

reason why a son of sharecroppers, a child who had literally had to bear the injuries of bigotry and segregation could graduate from law school and eventually chair a powerful committee in congress. only one reason, because principled leaders had fought to give kids like him a chance. chairman cummings made it his life's work to continue that effort. he climbed the ranks here in the capitol. not because he outgrew his hometown, but because he was so committed to it. i think all of us remember the time that is most clear was back in 2015. his city roiled by unrest. by day the congressman was here in the capitol working and leading in these hallways of power. but every night he rode the train back home and walked the

neighborhoods bull horn in hand encouraging unity and peace. here is what he said. let's go home. let's all go home. now our distinguished colleague truly has gone home. home to his father's house. and we pray that our god will now reward the service that elijah cummings gave in this life with the peace of god which surpasses all understanding in the next. >> bill: strong words from the senate majority leader and also the speaker of the house. son of sharecroppers and master of the house. we recognize the life of elijah cummings today in washington

>> sandra: the public will be invited to pay their respects a little later today. the funeral for cummings will take place in baltimore tomorrow. >> bill: we are going to get a quick break here but our coverage will continue in a moment. our dear thanks to juan williams our colleague, as well. back here. 11:30 now in washington, d.c. newday usa can help you refinance your mortgage and save thousands a year. i urge you to call newday usa now.

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together we'll make the right choice. my team's working overtime to make sure every veteran can refinance now to save $2000 every year >> sandra: long-time congressman elijah cummings after passing away lies in state on capitol hill in statutory hall. you see members of both parties from the house and senate saying their goodbyes. mark meadows a friend of cummings saying his goodbye after we just heard from speaker of the house nancy pelosi. let's listen here to the congressman mark meadows. >> personal stories and intimate secrets that elijah never shared with anyone because he was a man of his word. he said he never would.

and yet through the tears of the past few days i'm reminded of one particular conversation because of who elijah is and he had a smile that would consume his whole face. you know that. but he also had eyes that would pierce through anybody that was standing in his way. and he reminded him not too long ago of a quip he made. he said darrell issa was going to make him famous. and i reminded him that he is not defined by other people. he is defined by the character of his heart, the honesty of his dialogue, and the man that

-- the man that we will miss. scripture talks about let not your heart be troubled. you believe in god, believe also in me. in my father's house are many mansions. if it were not so i would have told you. i go to prepare a place for you. so elijah has left his tent to go to a mansion, a better place. perhaps this place and this country would be better served with a few more unexpected friendships. i know i've been blessed by one. god bless you. >> sandra: an emotional mark

meadows saying goodbye to his long time friend elijah cummings who passed away last week from complications concerning longstanding health challenges. members of congress saying their goodbyes and what nancy pelosi called a celebration of his life. >> i've been very candid about us. turkey put us all in a terrible situation. the incursion was unwarranted. president erdogan was fixated on making this incursion for one reason or another and there wasn't a possibility we would start a war with a nato ally. >> bill: defense secretary mark esper denouncing turkey's actions in syria. the pentagon is weighing whether or not to send resources to the country's eastern legion. tom cotton, the republican from arkansas with me now. good to have you back on our program. i was looking for a lot of your comments. i haven't heard much and i think it's an opportunity to hear you out as a member of the

u.s. military and now a member of congress. what do you believe we're up against there in northeastern syria now? >> bill, the situation is very complicated in syria. made more complicated by years of inaction under the obama administration. the president inherited a real mess in syria in 2017. the islamic state was still rampaging across the region and we were working with good allies, syrian kurds that unfortunately were the sworn enemies of a nato ally turkey. what the president did earlier this month is to say we weren't going to put at risk the lives of a few dozen american troops in northern syria when turkey was preparing to cross the border to try to protect itself from what it views as the syrian-based militia of a turkey-based separatist and terrorist organization. the turkey ought not to have done that. they should have worked with the united states and worked with the syrian kurds to try to address those legitimate concerns that turkish people have. but now we are oef in a situation where there is a

cease-fire that has held. that was due in part because the president had imposed sanctions and congress was threatening to impose more sanctions on turkey. we have few remaining interests in syria. one is to make sure the islamic state does not return. two is to make sure that iran does not further militarize its foothold in syria and use it as a pathway to get weapons and other material to terrorist groups by hezbollah in lebanon and atrocities are not committed against the syrian kurds. it looks like we'll be able to protect those interests with the troop presence that we have in eastern syria and in southern syria. but president erdogan of turkey should know that if any of those interests are in peril not just the president is prepared to impose new sanctions on turkey, but the congress is prepared to do even more. >> bill: okay. with that as a back drop a few specific questions. the isis prisoner. what's the truth about their status right now as to whether they are in prison or some of

them set free? what do you know about that? >> so, bill, the secretary of defense and i believe secretary of state have both confirmed the vast majority of those prisoners are still being detained. we have 9,000 to 11,000 prisoner. 100 were in prison right on the syrian/turkish border have escaped. the vast majority of the prisoners remain in detention camps further removed from the syria, turkish border. i know the president has consulted with the general commander of the syrian democratic forces and committed to the president they will continue to guard those prisons and that they will work in consultation with the united states military presence in syria should that become a strain on their capabilities. >> bill: what type of u.s. force has been left behind in southern syria? >> we have a base right on the iraqi border. in terms of thwarting iran's ambitions in syria and their

ability to threaten israel. it is a critical base. attention is focused on northern syria, southern syria to counteract iran is the central presence we have. i don't think we've moved any troops out of that region. by moving some of the troops from northern syria into iraq we may be able to further disrupt the movement of ranian weapons and other material into places by israel's border. >> bill: in the interest of time i won't get to all of the questions. the criticism is coming from a lot of different corners here the following way. some believe there was a better way to do this. was this the best way to get out of syria? >> bill, first off lets he be clear. we aren't out of syria. we have the presence in southern syria to counteract iran and some presence in eastern syria to insure that iran and syria don't use the oil fields in syria to evade the oil sanctions on iran. the president faced a dill emma

a few weeks ago. we only had a few dozen troops on the border with turkey. erdogan said he would conduct the operation that he had been broadcasting for two to three most. when he stood at the u.n. general assembly in new york in september he held up a map for the cameras forecasting this operation. the president and his senior military leaders have said that president erdogan called not to request permission or not to consult with president trump but to tell him that this operation was now going to begin. the president had to make the call of whether we kept a couple dozen troops in northern syria between two warring parties. he made the call not to do so. we could say maybe go back two months or six months or for that matter five years and try to resolve the tensions between the syrian kurds and turks and it would be much harder. >> bill: i have less than a minute left here. you were very critical of the michael at kinson testimony about the end of september with regard to the whistleblower. my question is more directed to republicans in the senate.

do you sense any cracks in that republican wall or signs of support for the president during this impeachment inquiry or whatever it is you choose to call it?now because republicans are pretty united at the kangaroo court we see in the house of representatives. shifting adam schiff is testifying behind closed doors for 10 hours and leak out 30 seconds of statements that put the president and his policies in the worst possible light. nice to know what happened in the rest of that testimony. we are firmly united against the farce that adam schiff is running in the house right now. >> bill: have you spoken to senator mcconnell about it this week? >> i have. as a matter of fact we plan to introduce a resolution perhaps as early as today condemning the house of representatives process. there is a clear way to conduct an inquiry like this in front of the public with the minority having proper rights with the

accused having some basic fairness and due process. that's what happened with bill clinton in 1998 and richard nixon in 1974. the democrats aren't doing that now. they are obsessed with trying to control the flow of information and to railroad an impeachment through the house of representatives. which they have he been trying to do from the first day of this president's administration. >> bill: thank you, come on back. tom cotton from capitol hill. thank you, sir. >> sandra: the new york city bar association calling for attorney general bill barr to recuse himself from the ukraine probe. the reason for that next. ? kind of. thanks to navy federal it only took 5 minutes. so vets can join? oh yeah. how do you kind of buy a new car? it's used. it's for mikey. you know he's gonna have girls in that car. yeah. he's gonna have two of them.

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good morning. the bar association in making their case, they lay this out very clearly in their statement, they said the reasons why they're calling for his recusal is because, as white house records make clear, the president told his ukrainian counterpart zelensky that mr. barr would, quote, be in touch with him to follow up on the president's request. that is a portion of what they're taking and they have an issue with. do you have an issue with that? >> i have an issue with their letter and the way it's been covered. this is the new york city bar association. this is a democrat-leaning group. if you look at some of the folks they've honored it's loretta lynch, sally yates. all people in the obama justice department. this is not an objective group looking at this. this is clearly an anti-trump, anti-trump d.o.j. group that is trying to get some press here.

>> sandra: they are insisting this is not about the legality of the president's actions which obviously is being debated and the merits of the whistleblower's complaint. their concern is on whether or not barr had knowledge of promises made by trump in that phone call. i'll read you a portion of the statement. they say if he fails either to recuse himself or to resign mr. barr should be subject to appropriate congressional sanctions including possible removal from office in order to restore the office of the attorney general and the doj to their historic roles as defender of the law on behalf of the american people. >> that's ludicrous. first of all what they said was they want barr to recuse himself from the ukraine matter. you do not recuse yourself from matters. you recuse yourself from department of justice investigations. as far as i know and as far as the rest of the public knows there is no doj investigation into this. if there were then you go through two steps.

is there an actual conflict of interest? for example, are you investigating someone that is a member of your family or you have a financial relationship with? or are you investigating someone that perhaps before you were in public service you were on the other side of the case. that's an actual conflict. perceived conflict of interests are different. the ethics office in the department of justice can make recommendations but ultimately it is a judgment call for the lawyer. that is if there is even an investigation. here there doesn't appear to be. this is the new york city bar association with a p.r. stunt that really has absolutely no weight and no legal authority behind it. >> sandra: we'll see where it all goes. they aren't mincing words when it comes to the statement they released. appreciate your time. thank you. >> bill: in a moment remembering the life of one of the great political voices of our generation. there is news today on the late dr. charles krauthammer. we'll talk to his son, daniel, about that coming up next. what are you doing back there, junior?

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>> bill: charles krauthammer left a profound legacy, not just add fox news, but across the country. his final book is available on paperback "the point of it all" edited by his son daniel krauthammer, who joins me now. nice to see you again my friend. >> good to see you too. >> bill: thank you for coming on. paperback, you wrote the preface for it. i had a colleague say, what do you think krauthammer will be more fired up about today? impeachment or the washington nationals? >> no question the nats. it's the one thing i have no question about. not even an argument. he would be happy as a 10-year-old kid right now. >> bill: sometimes he was a 10-year-old kid. a lot of times. he went through a lot of his writings. anyone to the make sure that you

preserve the "what" in the latest edition? >> his voice. the most important thing was as i rode in the introduction that his voice and echoes stay with s long as i can for the next generation. that was something important to me that not just people who read him and followed him could go back and see his wisdom, but people who had never read him before. kids who are growing up now and trying to learn what politics is all about and what the core principles are. that they can read this and see some lasting truth. >> bill: did you have your pops figured out? or as you go back are you learning other aspects of his mind and his thought that may be you did not even fully understand? >> there is a lot in there. i went back and read everything he had ever written to make sure that i found all of the best stuff. it's 2,000 columns and essays and speeches. we were extremely close. and we talked a lot and loved playing with these ideas. i think i knew the core principles.

but the way that does play out and apply to so many other political ideas and also lessons in life. lessons in baseball. lessons in every aspect across the spectrum of what it is to be a person. the best and most rewarding thing for me about the book is that it is thoughtful, analytical, but also poetic and touching in many ways. >> bill: thank you for sharing. that's what i want to say, and it is really great to see you again. how are you doing? >> i'm doing okay, you know, it is still very hard. and i assume every -- i miss him every day. every minute of every day. but it is comfortabl comfortingw that so many others remember him too and has memory and his voice stays with us. >> bill: how was your mom? >> she is doing okay. she is continuing on with some of the work they did together with their charitable work and concert series, and preserving jewish culture. and she's doing. >> bill: send her our best.

it's great to see you again. to our viewers at home, charleskrauthammer.com is the website. get it on paperback. we will see you really soon. cassandra, i have a copy for you. >> sandra: nice to hear from daniel, top house republicans demanding that the whistle-blower testify in public amid new concerns about political bias. g.o.p. lawmakers ramping up their call, continued calls for transparency. >> behind those doors they intend to overturn the results of an american presidential election, we want to know what is going on. sa can save you $2,000 every year. and once you refinance, the savings are automatic. thanks to your va streamline refi benefit, at newday there's no income verification, no appraisal, and no out of pocket costs. activate your va benefit now. one call can save you $2000 every year.

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>> bill: they got you a copy in me a copy. >> sandra: i'm looking forward to reading it absolutely. we all miss him. it's great to see daniel again. >> bill: are you doing okay? >> sandra: that was three hours for you. it's a lot. a >> bill: more coming up, have a great day, everybody. enjoy your thursday.

>> sandra: thank you for joining us, "outnumbered" starts right now. >> harris: fox news alert, the top house republicans on the committee heading the impeachment inquiry now demanding in a letter to house intel chair adam schiff that the whistle-blower testify publiclys part of that ongoing investigation. this is fox news learning exclusively that the whistle-blower who complained about president trump's call with ukraine acknowledging the inspector general, but he or she may be vulnerable to a third previously unreported allegation of political bias against the president. the nature of that possible bias claim remains unclear. this all coming on the heels of house republicans disrupting a closed-door hearing yesterday, demanding more transparency in democrats investigation.