what we found out he is come i there would have been a new can't remember if it is zero or that never happened with me and they are. round of massive sanctions near $0 from any european county to the larger point of the against turkey. and you will see in the meeting one of the things you missed the president didn't want for lee -- legal aid. meet you for the president say to take the meeting. agreement that on the basis of we gave them tanks and they give he didn't want the phone call. them pillows. the pause of 120 hours, a that is absolutely right. that was -- rick perry was as vocal as the europeans are pushing for that. >> >> mick: at the end, he has cease-fire over the next five about supporting ukraine, they are really, really stingy when a courtesy extended at the time. it comes to legal aid. days, that we will not be they were not helping ukraine implementing additional >> he was never realistically sanctions during that period of and that is still to this day are not in the president did not time. like that. entertaining a meeting with once we have a permanent i know you are blowing up your cease-fire, following the question but still going. president zelensky? >> mick: we get asked by those were the driving factors. foreign leaders all the time to orderly withdrawal of all ypg visit the country or have them did he also mentioned to me come visit here. we try to be courteous and say forces, the united states also empath the corruption related to yes and some accommodate and the dnc server? absolutely, no question about some we are not. agrees to withdraw the sanctions that. but that is why we hold up the that were imposed on several i do not remember -- let me answer the question. cabinet officials and several money. i don't remember a serious >> so the demands for an conversation about setting up an agencies earlier this week. >> investigation into the democrats was part of the reason to unfold actual meeting, no dates discussed and i saw that typical funding to ukraine? pleasantries that we have. i don't think it was dangling a >> reporter: to be clear, it >> mick: to look back to what meeting or anything like that, simply sanctions that would be removed. happen in 2016 certainly was part of the thing that he was yes. nothing else would be offered or >> mr. president to to add on to worried about incorruption with the nation. the white house november? given to the turks. that is absolutely equivalent. >> mick: i think that depends >> vice president pence: right. >> one more question.

which ultimately then flowed. on how the next couple of days ago. by the way, there was a report it it is still on schedule and i >> vice president pence: go that we word the money if we understand that ahead. didn't pay out the money, it would be illegal. vice president pence's meeting >> reporter: thank you, it would be unlawful. is going longer than expected that is one of those things, a today. i hope it's not going on with a mr. vice president. while you are here negotiating little shred of truth in it that with the turks, several hours. press conference right now. it is one of those wait and see makes it look a lot worse than things. the president has been clear can i finish? it really is. we were concerned about over what he wants to see out of the president erdogan and he wants a about an impoundment. i put half of you folks to bear to come up the budget control wants protected and i think you go down the long list of the things that the president has >> reporter: using the act and pound budget control act mentioned to president erdogan. sanctions to blackmail... and if we are able to get that of 1974 says if congress appropriates money, you have to that meeting can go forward. spend it. if not the president will reveal that is how it is integrated -- interpreted by folks. this is a plan. we knew that money had to go out that responsibility, yes, ma'am. >> vice president pence: the united states of america did not by the end of december or a good >> you just said you were reason not to do it. support surrogate turkey's miliy that was the legality of the issue. involved in the process in which >> this is a quid pro quo and the money being held up temporarily. actions in syria. funding will not flow unless the you name three issues in the president trump made that clear. investigation is into the country, whether or not the the united states imposed country they were assisting was democrats server as well. sanctions and the president made an ongoing investigation but how it clear yesterday and we made >> mick: we do that all the is that not an establishment of time with foreign policy. clear today that there would be we were holding money at the an exchange with quid pro quo? same time for what was it, the additional sanctions coming to tribal countries. >> mick: those are terms, bring an end to the violence to we were holding up aid for the those are terms you use. the loss of innocent lives in tribal countries so that they

go look at what gordon sondland said today in his testimony was would change their policies on this border conflict. that my think, in his opening immigration. by the way, this speaks to an that being said, let me say that statement he said something like i really believe today today's they were trying to get the important point because i heard this yesterday. i can never remember the deliverable and the deliverable was a statement by the ukraine gentleman, mechanic, the guy about how they were going to deal with corruption, okay? come i don't know. go read his testimony if you cease-fire is a credit to president trump and to haven't already. president erdogan. and if you go and believe the and he is right that is actual it's a credit to the strong news reports because we have not seen any transcripts of those. ordinary course of business. relationship between the this is what you do when you the only transcript is a have someone come to the united states. testimony this morning, but if and turkey. it's a credit to the strong you read the news reports and believe them what did mckinney white house either arrange a visit for the president, a phone relationship between our two leaders. call with the president. where there are differences say yesterday. a lot of times we use that as an between friends, it's important he said he was really upset with opportunity to get them to make the political influence in a statement of their policy or that the friends mother feelings foreign policy. to announce something that they that was one of the reasons he were going to do. it is one of the reasons you can be known. was so upset about this. president trump did that in this i have news for everybody, get then sort of announce that on case. over it. the phone call or at the it facilitated us being able to there was going to be political influence and foreign policy. i'm talking, mr. carl. meeting. this is the ordinary course of reach an agreement that has resulted in the cease-fire and that is going to happen. foreign policy. elections have consequences and i'm sorry. >> is it appropriate for any we believe will set the stage for creating a peaceful and foreign policy will change. president for this president to the obama administration to the pressure a foreign country to trump administration. what you are seeing now is a investigate a political opponent? >> mick: >> mick: every time stable, safe zone. group of mostly career the united states is committed bureaucrats or saying, you know i get that question, it is, andp to achieving that. what i don't like president trump politics why beating your wife. >> reporter: will participate in this it assumes the president has mr. vice president, can i finish witch hunt that they are done that. my question.

we haven't done that. undertaking on the hill. >> harris: they are shouting i'm going to talk about what elections to have consequences, and they should appear at questions in ingres turkey. foreign policy is going to this president is doing, yes, i want to go to change. obama did it in one way, we are ma'am. >> the president's personal general jack keane, retired doing it a different way and four-star general, fox news attorney rudy giuliani sees his senior military analyst. there is no problem with that. with a couple minutes until the work as a personal attorney is >> mr. michael look -- intertwined with the president top of the hour, you are joining me by phone. national agenda when it comes to as you look at the situation. mr. mulvaney did that come into ukraine. consideration -- do you see those issues as >> mick: i'm sorry, i'm being 120 hours. are we sending troops back into intertwined? very rude. >> chose to qualify -- just -- if political interest has a facilitate the safe zone? president of a political >> no, we are not. candidate come is that intertwined with the national this is really erdogan's concern interest? >> mick: i don't know how to answer that question except rudy about the sanctions. the president heard that in his the question is not just about a voice when erdogan called him on political decision tuesday and the president was of how you want to run the giuliani as his personal lawyer. the present wants to use him. very emphatic. government. speak with the personal attorney this is about investigating to be working in ukraine on i'm going to impose the political opponents. issues both the national issues. sanctions unless you abide by a are you saying -- >> mick: dnc server -- cease-fire. he said we can achieve the same >> do you think that is okay for mr. giuliani says attorney-client privilege issue buffer zone used in diplomacy, the u.s. government to hold up because he was working the we are trying to do in the first aid and require a foreign case before you introduce this president interest. is that appropriate? >> mick: i don't know anything violence. government to investigate inappropriate about that, yes, that's why we have the political opponents of the president? sir. >> mick: you are talking about i'm sorry, the lead in the back. cease-fire and why we have the looking forward to the next >> thank you mr. mick mulvaney. withdrawal and why we are finally going to get a buffer election. >> the dnc, the dnc is too zone without any additional killing. involved in the next election is you said -- not like previous >> harris: it is 20 miles that not correct? wide, the safe zone barrier. >> mick: wait a second, hold

120 hours. they are hoping for a long-term on a second. >> to investigate the dnc, information, but how does the cease-fire. before i let you go, you've been right? >> mick: there is an ongoing, critical of the president's there is an ongoing action. are you still critical? investigation by the department president let north korean break of justice into the 2016 off with top u.s. leaders? or removing the right direction? election. >> mick: the question is >> he made the right move here i can't remember the person's responding to breaking off obviously. he deserves a lot of credit for name, dorm, okay? talks. that is an ongoing is there news the last couple of it. he knows erdogan. days on that? that is part and parcel for this investigation, right? the president of the united states the chief >> october 5th and israeli. decision. i do still think strategically law enforcement person cannot ask -- as someone with ongoing >> mick: i'm sorry. public investigation into wrongdoing? i'm not briefed on that, yes, that is just bizarre to me that pulling out of syria, giving the sir. you would think that you can't >> thank you mr. mulvaney. return of isis and the iranians do that. >> so you would say, dnc is not there have been published seeking domination, it's a reports that you were objecting within the president's official strategic mistake i think we will regret. about finance. family to the appointment of >> harris: may be it's moving so biden is now running for the fast enough that we can get our ken cuccinelli as head of the hands on the holding cells with democratic nomination, right in isis fighters in them. it's been a week. department of homeland security. is that so, and if so what is 2020. thank you, general jack keane. >> mick: that is a hypothetical because i did not happen here but i would ask your objection to his possible thank you for watching during appointment? all the breaking news. you -- >> mick: i have none and i i am harris. >> know on the call the "the daily briefing" now. president did ask about think he will be good at the job. investigating biden. yes, ma'am. >> dana: hello, everyone. are you saying the money that really, the whole time you were was held up that had nothing to sitting in the front row and i have asked a question yet? i'm dana perino. vice president pence and do. >> mick: know the money had secretaries take pompeo that the nothing to do with biden and that was the point made to you. >> the quid pro quo, didn't want

>> you are drawing a u.s. and turkey have agreed to a cease-fire. distinction. joining me is donna brazile. >> mick: three factors i was to do it and all on the up and involved with the money being up, why did it have to go into stephen, the senate leadership held up temporarily. fund. three issues for that. more restricted server? harris faulkner had a first hour the corruption of the country, why was it move from one server whether or not other countries to the other? >> mick: i'm glad we got that participating in support of of breaking news. the vice president and secretary ukraine, and whether or not and went to finish on. of state left last night. cooperating in an ongoing i'm not going to answer your they went there to tell erdogan investigation with the question the way you want me to department of justice. the president is serious and if that is completely legitimate, but i am going to answer your we can't figure out out a way to yes, sir. question so give me a second. do a cease-fire. i will not talk about how we >> regarding the secretary of they have 120 hours to get handle classified information in state department, the deputy people out of harm's way this building. hopefully. secretary or asian or european have a question about private >> it's a good move because this conversations and i don't talk was an unmitigated disaster, aid and george testified that about those either. i will not talk about that but i will address and here's why. you asked him to step down from there's only one reason people care about that, right? they think there is a cover appear they hope there is a issues regarding ukraine. cover up. some hope there is a cover up is that true? oh, my goodness gracious there must be something really >> mick: who said that? duplicitous something george. underhanded about how they i'm sorry, i don't know who that handled this document because there must be a cover up. is. is that who testified this week? there's always a good cover up i don't believe i've ever talked when we have an impeachment, to anybody in named george camp right? nixon had a cover up with tape or ask anybody to resign their stomach a clinton a relationship position. >> another thing, there are with monaco linsky. let me ask you this, if you want to cover this up, would we have

reports that you had been conducting a review of the phone called the department of justice almost immediately and have them look at the transcript of the tape, which we did by the way. calls with vladimir putin, the if we wanted to cover this up, would we have released into the ukrainian president and the public? by the way, i am glad all this question is, what are you doing, concern about the document edited and what does it stand is that true? do you acknowledge you have been for adam schiff and on conducting that review? television yesterday, yesterday or the day before we don't need to hear from the whistle-blower anymore because now we have the >> mick: again, no one here had any difficulty with the transcript. the memoranda of document. call. we think the call is perfect. we don't think there is any difficulty with a call at all. i've read it several times. everyone wants to believe there is a cover up. by the way, and on the call, my you don't give stuff to the public and say, here it is if you are trying to cover office is on the call but no one something up. i want to answer your question by explaining how we handle raised difficulty with me on the documents in this building. i'm telling you that you can call. i understand no one on the call stop asking the questions there in here thought there was because there is no cover up. difficulty with it. i can prove it to you by our so get to the point what we are actions. look, i know we can do this all doing inside. >> was this an attempt to night. i'm not going to take anymore. nice, thank you. uncover the whistle-blower? >> harris: white house chief >> mick: no, if you are having the house to what they are going to do, doesn't it simply makes of staff mick mulvaney taking sense for us to sort of find out questions. this whole thing started where what happened? they will hold the next g7 this is one of the questions i don't understand from you folks summit.

it will be at the trump doral that we get all the time. which is, some of you have property in miami, florida. criticized us for having a war i am harris faulkner and you are room, okay? which we don't, by the way, you watching "outnumber overtime." we have played that life and the don't have a war room when you haven't done anything wrong. clinton had a war room, i think press briefing room with mick mulvaney at the last 30 minutes. nixon did come up but they simultaneously, you may have heard him talk just a little bit actually did something wrong. we don't have a war room when you say that you are not taking about syria and what is next in it seriously. terms of steps to take. yeah, we are. it's part of what we do. now that the nato ally turkey when you work for the trump has invaded northern syria as we administration you are used to this kind of attention. we know how to do this we are pulled out u.s. troops. preparing for it. what will happen next? yes, lawyers are looking at it we can tell you vice president and yes p.r. people looking at mike pence and secretary, it but if we were not doing that, we would be committing secretary of state pompeo art in malpractice. but i don't think there is anything extraordinary that we turkey awaiting. are doing. if we popped out up on the we are dealing with oversight screen from a little bug down from the democrats since they there you will see it get took office. bigger. in fact, it's all we've been raised step up to the left turn and enter turkey to get their doing with the democrats as they news conference after meeting took office because they have for more than three hours with not certainly been doing legislation since they took turkeys president erdogan and office. both teams respectively. a lot of news this hour. >> at the definitions that we i want to unpack it from here. have heard of, do you believe rudy giuliani's role as an bringing in fox news advisor to the president is

problematic? >> mick: that is the chris stirewalt. chris, let's start with the news president's call. which no doubt will be a steve scalise asked a similar criticism of criticism of the question on television and i fifth holding a cheese from the thought the answer was great. g7 summit at one of his you might not like the fact and properties. >> chris: i thought to tell understand from reading his opening testimony that gordon sondland did not like that you, the idea that this giuliani was involved and said administration feeling with what that in his testimony. this administration is dealing okay, that is great. with, right, a lot. you may not like the fact that the unraveling in syria. giuliani was involved. you've got the march trump that is great, that is fine. it is not illegal, it is not impeachment here at home, impeachable. the president gets to use who he breaking news story every day. the world is on fire. wants to use. if he wants to fire me and hire why? someone else, he can. it is beyond my imagination. the president gets to set foreign policy. he gets to choose who to do so. why this administration thought as long as it does not violate that number 1, to do it at all law or laws regarding given the criticism that the confidential information or classified material or anything president will receive for using one of his own properties for an like that the president can use who he wants to. event like this fear that is not >> because the president direct you or anyone else to work with necessary in the first place. that is an unnecessary problem rudy giuliani? >> mick: yes, who was it, the to create for himself. within the next step today, to do it now if you do it this way, may meeting and i think this is widely reported. i just might wish i could think of a good reason for it. in fact must sondland mentioned >> harris: when i hear you say that we talked about this last it in his testimony and

rick perry in his testimony with "the wall street journal." hour on the couch on someone as the may meeting in the oval office that i was in my the president of the united states who actually hires think senator johnson was there as well as mr. voelker was jobs and has big businesses there. the president asked rick perry to work with mr. giuliani. wonder how the american people >> did you think that was see it. appropriate when you were asked might be very different. as well? maybe that's part of the >> mick: i wasn't asked. >> you were not asked. calculation and all of this that was my question, where you mick mulvaney about the specific or anyone else asked? location. he didn't get the names of >> mick: and i think the mortals have been been looked question the president told at, but probably a lot more to rick perry, sort of, the issue talk about that, but let's one of the reasons they were in continue with ukraine and syria. the office you talk about right now the vice president of energy. the united states and secretary very interested in trying to get ukraine as an energy partner. of state are in anchorage, turkey. after more than three hours of that is why mr. perry meeting first with the president secretary perry was heavily involved. and that is when the president of turkey, erdogan and brought in teams and staff to talk for said to mr. perry, gordon. another couple of hours. that is a long meeting and >> >> mick: that is a term you conversation and if they get ready to talk to the nation, what may have been accomplished? what was possible there? >> chris: getting erdogan to are using. take the meeting was the what is a shadow foreign policy? the president asked -- who else progress. right? we read the reports erdogan is in the room? throws trump's letters away and

who is in the room when the will not meet with anybody or president is having this talk to anybody. conversation, okay? >> harris: and then trump said gordon sondland the investor to there was confusion whether or not they would meet. the e.u. >> chris: given the reporting kirk voelker wh who is special designated all -- envoy to the that we had read and given ukraine. i sit next to mike pompeo with a erdogan's very belligerent, very meeting with the congressional hostile public utterances, leaders and i understand i which, of course, consumption in turkey because strongmen like to coordinated a coup against you by putting sondland and voelker look strong as it turns out. that was after all we had heard in charge of ukraine. you know, they both work for me. from erdogan to have him, in there is not a shadow policy fact, take the meeting is here. the president is entitled to who probably progress. and probably progress in the have whoever he wants. direction of, how do we put i'm 100% confident. humpty dumpty back to the other a little bit and move in that i'm sorry, i'm sorry, yes. direction? so this is one of those things >> to follow on that, can you where even the meeting itself is describe the role that you played in pressuring ukraine to fool. >> harris: you know what is investigate the -- and secondly interesting and i'm not hearing just talked about so this was a can you walk us through the fresh perspective for you and i to chew on, if you are welcome meeting that president trump was at the president has dangling over volodymyr zelensky accomplished something that he at the white house, what were promised the american people. that you would try to draw down the preconditions of that troops and pull us out of enlist wars. he looked at afghanistan earlier

meeting and was investigating going on? >> mick: the first answer is this year taking 14,000 down to not. what was your question? why did i do with ukraine? 86,000. and he said he wanted to do it >> did you do anything to carefully, different than pressure ukraine to investigate president obama had done the bidens? formally in iraq where he was >> mick: i know. what is the second question? highly criticized for doing something similar. son of the president takes a speak with the question is about look at a situation where you the meeting. at the white house between the have reportedly fewer than 100 may be even less than 50 where two president? can troops on the border between can you walk us through the syria and turkey. discussion at that meeting? reports are that turkey would the table for a precondition and move in anyway. we don't know. what the investigation of we were in the room. bereavement ever brought up? but if that is or is not the case, you move those american have the conditions to meet with lives out of the way and turkey president trump? does this. >> mick: not to me and not to the president has promised he anybody i know of. i what -- >> >> mick: will push back and triple that economy -- cripple that economy with sanctions and that is where sit. >> chris: yes, but number one, we don't know, but i think it is highly unlikely that turkey would have undertaken these operations at risk of american lives. because the consequences for turkey, which has a big, but not great military, right, they are big and buy a lot of russian stuff.

they have a large army numbers, but of course, they would be no match for the united states, not even close. so i doubt that they would undertaken these operations had the united states not taken the troops out of the zone. but number two come in terms of the campaign promised upcoming year is a problem. the trips are not coming home. we are sending 2,000 trips to saudi arabia. the president and the middle east will continue on and on and on. especially as tensions increase between the sunni coal states and the chia in iran. as it gets worse as things evolve in the region, and united states presence will not end and in fact this is not a drawdown but a moving around. the president's goal, people can either support or not support the president's goal in syria. it's not about bringing troops home here, it's about letting syria go. he does not want the united states to be responsible for what happens in syria next. he wants the russians and the turks and probably the iranians to take over what happened in

syria and not the united states. that can be worthwhile policy goal if you agree with the post on that. the problem here has been execution. the way that his it has been conducted in this hurly-burly catch and catch way. >> harris: i want to step and because what i have seen his criticism for the critics. and that is how many americans want to fight with the kurds? are they familiar with what is going on in syria? that is something, no doubt, will be talked about going forward, kind of the education of the point so on and so forth. it is a lot. all right, let's move on to something next. [laughter] >> harris: mick mulvaney was talking about ukraine and he said there is no cover up. from that phone call that the president had with the leader of ukraine. the president held funding for ukraine due to concerns about corruption. there is going to be political influence and foreign policy, the ukraine money held up and had nothing to do with joe biden. the president gets to set foreign policy with the people he chooses. i'm kind of giving you the

highlights of what the acting chief of staff chief of staff said appear the president did come in fact asked rick perry which we learned about depositions a little bit being talked about even though they were supposed to be behind closed doors. he did ask rick perry to work with his attorney rudy giuliani on ukraine. mulvaney said, i was never in a meeting where biden was mentioned. he talked about was on the phone call and how there was nothing on that call. >> chris: look, for a little context here, let's think about mick mulvaney being on a tight rope, right? we should all keep a little sympathy for mick mulvaney today who is in a very difficult situation as reported to the president and has talked pretty openly with his advisors about canning mulvaney. certainly, not making him the real chief of staff. so here is mulvaney who sort of has his drop on the line, but he also knows that he will have to go testify at some point. he also knows that he has to answer questions about this. so this guy is juggling five or

six different things. he's got to go out and meet the press and ask questions. >> harris: he took every question, but let's get to the facts of what he was saying, and does it make sense not to consider them at this point. things like when he says on that call, there were many people and he starts the list of people in the cold. he didn't thing down my neck hear anything and he's got experience when he says that from his perspective that's a fact. when he talked about it, you didn't want the american public to know what was going on he would not have given that miranda m. heath first said transcript and then memorandum from the call which we know would have been put together by members of intel and others on the call and all of their notes combined. the president would have necessarily released fact? would there have been the level of transparency that we have seen? there may have been a push for more but he said no cover up. >> chris: what is he going to say, right? we don't know. >> harris: he could have dodged the question but he

didn't. >> chris: well, i would give him mostly a dodge there. what he is saying, there is no cover up and we released everything. we did everything totally aboveboard. we know they release the memorandum under pressure. the initial response from the administration, we will absolutely do no such thing and that would endanger foreign policy and how can you ask. under pressure, yes they release that appeared under pressure, push me, pull me back and forth. he painted a picture that was normal and everything had been totally just absolutely credit and just fine. no one had concerns and out of the blue the democrats imagine this and have taken honest and normal facts and turn them into something bad. that is not what happened. and the most favorable to the administration of the light most favorable to the president, there were plenty of people uneasy about what trump was doing. there were plenty of people uneasy about what giuliani was doing. and there were plenty of people who thought that this would dominic was outside of normal

practices to bring his political rivals into this process. >> harris: all right, we shall see. we don't know all of who will be cold. you think mulvaney is on the list. chris stirewalt thank you very much. >> chris: few bed. >> harris: today has been a loss with the passing of congressman elijah cummings. we have invited on the program democratic congressman emanuel cleaver of missouri to be with me now. before we get to his friend, there you are come i can see you now, congressman, thank you. we will get into that in details but because there is breaking news in the white house, the chief of staff, acting chief of staff the last 30 minutes come i want to get your reaction to what is playing out in ankara in turkey. we are getting ready to hear from the secretary of state and the vice president. >> emanuel: well, years ago during my last term as mayor, the institute sent me to a place called -- where i met with kurds and turks. trying to get them to work

together and so forth. but i'm very familiar with the situation. and i think it is unfortunate, it is not unfortunate but tragic that kurds are being slaughtered and in some instances, the turks are asking to be filmed as they shoot kurds. there are enemies, i'm sorry, the turks are with russia and the united states. the turks were aligned to us first and foremost. but now, they have formed allegiance with syria. and i think we are going to see the return of vices, but i don't know if the president quite understands the seriousness and the significance of pulling u.s. troops out. the turks wanted nothing to do

with getting the u.s. him because they know that as someone said earlier on the show, they have no way of matching the strength and power of the united states. >> harris: you know, congressman cleaver, when you talk about the president and all of this, he has consistently said that he wants to look at pulling us out of endless wars. and he solved this as such potentially if turkey was going to move in, pull americans out of the way because they will move in anyway. that is what has been reported. as you look at this, let's bring it out to talk about the american people. i'm curious if people looking at this, don't simply hear the president saying he's putting america first and is pulling the men and women out of harm's way. do you think that there are americans who want us to fight side-by-side, that a group now has joined syrian forces? >> emanuel: no, i don't think so. and this may surprise you, but one of the things i have agreed with the president since the beginning of this campaign is, i

don't want to engage americans men and women in battle endlessly. and another reason is, we have defamed the power, the united states congress. since 1944, we have had 119,000 americans killed in battle without any declaration of war. and so, i don't want to assenting troops here and there and here and there. on the other hand, i don't think the turks would have even in a drunken state attack the kurds with knowing that americans were embedded with him. because you start killing americans, you are going to bring in the full strength, the might of the united states. they didn't want to do that. there is no other nation that wants to do that. >> harris: i was just given a two-minute warning to vice president pence and the secretary of state. and i want to talk about

elijah cummings and the modesty that that man had talking about living on the hills of accomplishment civil rights like clarence mitchell at the top advisor for lyndon johnson and being a beneficiary of that night and 64 civil rights act and wanting to go forward and carry the banner. talk to me about your friend. >> emanuel: he did carry the banner. i had him in kansas city not long ago speaking. and in my introduction, he mentioned some of the things he accomplished. but more than that, just a good, decent man. he and i often talked about this, and i said this when i introduced him in kansas city, he has dominic has a law degree by theta kappa, and a theology but i accused him of being a bog preacher. every time i turn around, he has somewhere starting out as a lecturer and ended up as a preacher. he did that in kansas city at one of my -- his mother was a

preacher. and he up in a neighborhood and still lived in the neighborhood. and i bet there's not a single member here in congress, particularly that came from an urban area that lives in the heart of the urban core. elijah cummings would not move. it was a very dangerous neighborhood. they created a tv show around it. he was an amazing human being and i loved him more than i can even express. >> harris: he will be missed. congressman cleaver, thank you for your time. i've been to your church in kansas city. i started my career there at fox. good to see you. >> emanuel: good to talk with you. >> harris: we have an hour of breaking news. i want to get to jennifer griffin life at the pentagon, jennifer. >> harris breaking news out of turkey. we have not heard anything from the official report, but we do see on twitter that one of turkey's top reporters is reporting that the u.s. and turkey have agreed the turkish side will remain in a safe zone. that the turkish mud that

president erdogan and vice president pence reached a deal to suspend into northern syria for 120 hours. that is according to turkish sources. we have not heard that from american sources. and the white pg also known as the stf, syrian democratic forc, the kurds will be allowed to withdraw from the designated safe zone. it is not clear at this point whether the stf will actually agree to the terms or whether because this was being negotiated by the american officials, vice president pans, secretary of state mike pompeo and others, but again the reports out of turkey that there will be a 120 hour suspension of the turkish and kurds and to allow the syrian democratic forces, the white pg, the kurds to pull back out of that 20-mile buffer zone that the turks are trying to create along the border. so began, it is not clear whether the kurds will agree to this. it says that ypg heavy weapons

will be re-collected to come up fortifications to be disabled. remember the kurds at the american military's insistence just a few weeks ago destroyed several fortifications and did pull back so that the americans could patrol along the border with their turkish counterparts. that is what those 28 u.s. troops were doing on that border. >> harris: right. >> jennifer: the kurds it's not clear if they will agree to this, but this is the agreement coming out. we say the president, president trump tweeted 3 minutes ago that good news is coming out of turkey. but we are awaiting a readout from the vice president pence and pompeo. >> harris: for cease-fire and that is significant in all of this because as we know from our own reporting, jennifer, there was confusion about whether turkey's president erdogan would even meet with our delegation who went led by the vice president of the united states. we see him now live.

turkey, the vice president and the secretary of state. let's watch. >> one week ago turkish forces came into syria. earlier this week president trump took decisive action. to call on turkish forces to stand down an end the violence and agreed to negotiations. and today, i'm proud to report, thanks to the strong leadership of president donald trump and the strong relationships between president erdogan and turkey and the united states of america. that today the united states and turkey have agreed to a cease-fire in syria. turkish side will pause, operation p spring in order to allow for the withdrawal of yp

safe zone from 120 hours. in all military operations under operation piece will be paused and it will be halted entirely on completion of the withdrawal. and our administration has already been in contact with parent defense forces and we have already begun to facilitate their safe withdrawal from nearly 20-mile wide safe zone barrier. south of the turkish border in syria. but let me say this also includes an agreement by turkey to engage and no military action against the community and in addition the united states and turkey have both mutually

committed to peaceful resolution and future for the safe zone working on an international basis and to ensure that peace and security defines this border region of syria. in addition to the settlement today, with the cease-fire, turkey and the united states mutually committed to the defeat isis activities and northeast syria. this will also include an agreement renewed today to coordinate efforts on detention facilities and internally displaced persons and formally isis controlled areas. also, turkey and the united states agree on the priority of respecting vulnerable human life, human rights, and particularly, the production of religious and ethnic communities in the regi region.

i spoke to president trump just a few moments ago. and i know that the president is very grateful. for president erdogan's willingness to step forward and to enact a cease-fire and to give an opportunity for a peaceful solution of this conflict that commenced one week ago. for my part, i am grateful for the president's leadership. i'm grateful for the more than five hours of negotiations with president erdogan and his team that arrived at a solution that we believe will save lives. and let me also say, i'm grateful for this team. to be able to have alongside secretary of state, mike pompeo. our national security advisor, robert o'brien, pastor jim jeffries and investor david

satterfield was a great privilege. and each of the members of this team contributed equally to achieving this outcome, which is a great contribution to security in this region and it's a great contribution to the strong and enduring relationship between the united states of america and turkey. lastly my want to express my appreciation to appreciation to millions of americans who i know were carrying this moment in prayer. we heard from people all over the country whose hearts were heavy with the loss of life in this conflict over the last week. and long to see it brought to an end. i believe there are prayers, the strong leadership that the president provided for this moment, and the cooperation with president erdogan and turkey has made this possible.

and so, again, let me say, a week after turkish forces crossed into syria, turkey and the united states of america have agreed to a cease-fire in syria. it will be a clause in military operations for 120 hours. the united states to facilitate the withdrawal of ypg from the affected areas and safe zone and once that is completed, turkey has agreed into a permanent cease-fire and the united states of america will work with turkey. we will work with nations around the world two ensures peace and stability is the order of the day in this safe zone on the border between syria and turkey. with that, let me recognize secretary of state, mike pompeo and thank you, mr. secretary for your hard work. >> secretary pompeo: thanks,

the vice president said it well. i want to add to this thought. obviously, there remains a great deal of work to do in the region. there is lots of challenges that remain, but this effort tonight that's the conditions for the success or resolution of this particular piece which graded enormous unrest and instability. the president wants the decision to work alongside the president erdogan and one that will benefit turkey a great deal. thanks, i know you want to take questions. >> vice president pence: , where are you? go right ahead. >> thank you very much. how do you overcome, how do you overcome the damage that has been caused over the past week? there's been a lot of animosity and turkey. a lot of things have been said and a lot of threads have been made. how are you going to repair the

relationship going forward? thank you. be 81st as you will see from the agreement, part of our understanding is that with the implementation of the cease-fire, the united states will not impose any further sanctions. on turkey. and once the permanent cease-fire is in effect, the president has agreed to withdraw the economic sanctions that were imposed this last monday. but make no mistake about it, president trump is very clear. with our allies, turkey about american opposition. to turkish military forces entering syria. president made that very clear in his discussions and his correspondent with president president erdogan. and i believe that the candor and frankness that president trump applied to this and the strength of his

relationship with president erdogan both contributed to the ability for this agreement to come about. and now, we will work together to implement this agreement. as i said, our team is already working with ypg personnel in the safe zone for an orderly withdrawal outside the 20-mile mark and we will go forward together to bring peace and security this region. i'm very confident of that. okay, i've gone to -- please. >> thank you. there are reports by some international organizations on how ypg, mainly just minorities in northern syria. christian leaders and churches are making calls to ensure peace

in the region. i'm wondering your thoughts on this. >> vice president pence: let me let the secretary also address that, but i can tell you that the president erdogan and i spoke to great lengths about the importance of protecting religious minorities. in the region. president erdogan also shared with me the perspective of many leaders and religious communities and turkey who have great concerns about violence and persecution taking place along the border. and so part of our agreement is to continue to work very closely to ensure that religious minorities can thrive and that religious pluralism is one of the characteristics of this safe zone for some time to come. mr. secretary. >> secretary pompeo: we certainly have heard from the

vice president, christian leaders around the world who expressed much of the same concerns that you just described. we think this production and violence, this cease-fire reduces the risk of that. so we think this greatly contributes to religious minorities throughout syria and throughout the broader middle east as well. as often happens in the context of lots of religious challenges, lots of religious persecution in iraq and other places. we think this is an important contribution in that regard. the other thing we talked about it at length to the extent that abuses are identified. and we will ask each leader, certainly president erdogan and his team and others to investigate any allegations of abuse that have taken place. >> vice president pence: may be add an addendum to that. one of the things i know the president and the american people are most proud of is investment of hundreds of millions of dollars to help rebuild a christian and other

religious minority communities and the aftermath of the horrifying violence during the isis. syrian and northern iraq. we will continue to flow those resources to support those communities, but as you will see from this agreement, it is a specific undertaking by turkey and by the united states to ensure, to protect religious minorities in the affected region. sean tandem. >> thank you, mr. vice president. you mention iced ypg fighters but can you explain that more, where they will withdraw two and the future of them? obviously concerns in turkey and the ypg and the many lead in the islamic states groups but what do you see for the future of northern syria? do you see any future for the

syrian kurds politically? >> vice president pence: , well our commitment with turkey is that we will work with ypg members and we also some syrian defense forces with an orderly withdrawal over the next 120 hours. let me say that is literally already begun. and where they will be withdrawing from, is the demarcation line, roughly 20 miles south of the border. and turkey's willingness to pause and embrace a cease-fire military operations, to enable us to see the orderly withdraw withdrawal. of why pg we believe will make it possible for that to occur. i know it's already underway as

we speak. but look, turkey is at a great concern about their order. while the united states of america did not approve of their military crossing into syria, we have always endorsed a safe zone. it was a matter of discussion and negotiations, and we believe that the kurdish population in syria with which we have a strong relationship will continue to endure. the united states will always be grateful for our partnership with sdf in defeating isis. but we recognize the importance and the value of a safe zone to create a buffer between syria and the british population in the turkish border. we will be working very closely.

we think the agreement today, first ends the violence, president trump sent us here to do. now, i say it again and again to president erdogan, president trump sent us here to end the violence. and to achieve immediate cease-fire. and thanks to the agreement that we negotiated today at the strong that the president took in the preceding days, we achieve that. and we achieved an opportunity by working with ypg to move out of the area to create more peace and security and stability in that buffer zone. and we will be working very earnestly to accomplish that. we believe that can be accomplished during the 120 hour period. and after which will be a permanent cease-fire and then we will continue to engage. again, not militarily, the president made it clear that we are not going to have military

personnel on the ground, but the united states will continue to engage diplomatically. politically, and of course humanitarian aid and support to affect all of the people affected in this region. >> last question. >> mr. vice president, you mentioned turkey's encouragement into northern syria that erdogan wants a safe zone. what concession did you actually get out of the president erdogan and number two, do you have specific insurance from the ypg they will comply with the terms of the agreement because something they have said they would not do. and finally, with the kurds moving south and now with a u.s. sanctions in terms of them moving south, how would you address and call the second abandonment of the kurds? >> vice president pence: , well i think you will be able to see from the agreement itself.

what concessions were made. president trump and his telephone call with president erdogan earlier this week and in the directive that he gave us to deliver was very clear. that he wanted to cease-fire. he wanted to stop the violence. turkey is engaging in an active military operation. i can tell you that as our discussions began over the course of the five hour period of time that we reached a place of agreement about how a cease-fire could benefit turkey, achieved president trump's objectives and also contribute to a peaceful resolution of the safe zone. i believe, i believe we have accomplished that. with regard to the ypg, syrian defense forces, we have been in contact today.

we received repeated assurances from them that they will be going out. that they greatly welcome the opportunity for a cease-fire to make a safe and orderly withdrawal from those areas and safe zone. where they still have a presence. and we are very confident that that is already taking place. and we will be using all of the leverage that we have of having fought alongside syrian defense forces and the battle against isis to facilitate their safe withdrawal. but we think, we think this is an outcome of war. and greatly serves the interest of the kurdish population, syria to greatly serve the interest of turkey and will create the kind of long-term buffer zone that

will ensure peace and stability in the region. >> esther vice president i want to follow up with a question. what concessions did turkey receive specifically i want to ask you if they brought the issue up of the bank. >> vice president pence: not in the context of these negotiations. when we concluded negotiations, the topic was raised, and we informed them that was a matter for the southern district of new york and the justice department. but let me say that thencessione united states made have to do with t