mac and cheese in a bag. >> you have to see the "after the show show". >> if that doesn't excite you run to radio. >> bill: thanks, guys, good morning. everybody. hunter biden breaking his silence finally after months of scrutiny on his business dealings while his father was vice president. a lot in this interview today. we'll get to all of it now starting now as much as we can. i'm bill hemmer, welcome to tuesday and good morning here and to you, sandra. >> sandra: good morning everyone. i'm sandra smith. in an interview hours before joe biden takes center stage at the democratic debate in ohio tonight hunter biden repeatedly denying he broke any laws by working for a ukraine gas company. while also taking direct aim at the president. >> do you regret being on the board to begin with? >> no, i don't regret being on the board. what i regret is not taking

into account that there would be a rudy giuliani and president of the united states that would be listening to this ridiculous conspiracy idea which has again been completely debunked. >> you thought it might not look right? >> did i make a mistake? well maybe in the grand scheme of things, yeah. did i make a mistake based upon some ethical lapse? absolutely not. >> bill: starting with ellison barber near columbus, ohio. a democratic debate tonight and that's what brings you to the midwest, hello. >> that's right. good morning, bill. yesterday hunter biden's attorney released a statement saying that hunter biden had made the decision to step down from the board of a chinese company. his father, 2020 homeful and vice president joe biden was in iowa that afternoon speaking to

the largest private sector union in the country and spoke to reporters after and quickly asked about himself. frustrated with the questions and only took them for five minutes and ignored many reporters including myself who tried to ask additional questions. he said he and his son did nothing wrong and his son made the decision to step down by the board of decision of that company himself. >> what i'm not going to let you do is take the focus off the problem. no one -- no one has asserted my son did a single thing wrong. no one has asserted that i have done any wrong except a lying president. he decided he is not good to do. he has said he does not like the appearance of it. >> the younger biden did acknowledge in his interview this morning that many things in his life would not have happened if he was not a biden. denied any sort of ethical lapse or other impropriety. joe biden got into a bit of hot

water when he said he never spoke with his sons about his overseas dealings. his son told "the new yorker" he did one time. he said he did not discuss the ukrainian gas company with the ukrainian president which sparked the impeachment inquiry. >> did you and your father ever discuss ukraine? >> no. as i said, the only time was after a news account. it wasn't a discussion in any way. not but to this, no, we never did. >> yesterday joe biden told reporters if he is elected president no one in his family will serve on boards of or work on behalf of foreign-owned companies and when reporters asked why he would need a rule for that now if it wasn't a problem before he didn't really answer that specific question. he then ignored many follow-up questions as he let. biden wants to keep the focus on more campaign-specific issues. it will surely be a question on

the debate stage. his son was an unavoidable topic among reporters today and we expect that to happen tonight as well. >> bill: it is a developing story again today. thank you. karl rove will join us in about 30 minutes. dr. bill bennett is the headliner and we'll talk to him in the 10:00 a.m. eastern time hour. a lot more to get to and we shall coming up shortly. four minutes past. >> sandra: brand-new reaction coming in for rudy giuliani moments ago after a new report claims john bolton was the one to sound the alarms over giuliani's quote actions. here is how president trump's personal attorney just told our own john roberts he says quote, i'm disappointed in john. i'm not sure he realizes i received all this evidence as part of my representation of the president. it was all part of the evidence and suppression of evidence involving ukrainian collusion and the origin of some of the false information against the president. that report coming from leaks

from inside that nine-hour interview with a former top russian advisor yesterday. catherine herridge is on the capitol hill for us where we await another witness to appear any moment. >> we're heading into a complex week of testimony on capitol hill. the simple way to think of it is two tracks, an official traditional diplomatic track when it came to ukraine and then there was an unofficial back channel led by the president's personal attorney rudy giuliani. the question is whether any of those activities broke the law, rise to an impeachable offense or simply the word i want to use is upsets the old order here in traditional washington a short time from now we're expecting another witness this morning, george p. kent, a senior state department official who at one time worked very closely with the former u.s. ambassador to the ukraine, marie yovanovitch. she was removed two months early from her position.

explanation is both of these individuals got sideways with rudy giuliani and his efforts to investigate allegations of corruption in the ukraine involving democrats specifically the bidens. yesterday on capitol hill we had a former white house advisor on ukraine and russia fiona hill. she is someone who testified in a transcribed interview for the better part of nine hours. there were leaks from that testimony that indicated that she had raised objections prior to the july 25th phone call between the president and the ukrainian leder that involved giuliani and others. what we know now we have a response from rudy giuliani who disputes some of those allegations. lawmakers who spoke to reporters. >> just release the transcripts. this is important. by the way, don't give me any of that grand jury b.s. because you are leaking any information that you think can be spun positively. >> ambassador yovanovitch was a victim of a political hit job

as they tried to get rid of her. >> it is striking when you look at the testimony today. so much focuses on process and foreign policy issues. very little discussion when we hear from lawmakers who come out to the stake-out here about intelligence and that matters because it originated as a whistleblower complaint within the intelligence community. >> sandra: a lot to get to there. thank you. >> bill: let's bring in someone who has been in the room. lee zeldin. how are you and good morning? what came of nine hours with knee -- fiona hill. >> the formula for adam schiff and his team the entire time. we're seeing it overnight once again. the entire story is not coming out. >> bill: did john bolton tell her to report to a lawyer back in early july. >> i can't get into the substance of what was discussed. it is not because i don't want the information to be out there.

i actually want the entire transcript to be out there right now this morning. you and i should be able to have a conversation where right in front of you is a transcript of every single question asked yesterday, every single answer given. instead this strategy of cherry picking out leaks is not giving you by a long shot the full story of what happened yesterday. i am not allowed to talk about anything that happened and that's why i'm calling for full transparency so we can have a conversation and the american public knows everything that is going on. >> bill: help me with something here. for those giving interviews behind closed doors at some point will they have to submit to a public hearing? >> there is no answers with regards to any of this. as far as whether or not there is going to be a vote to launch an impeachment inquiry is not known. will the minority party be allowed to call witnesses? if adam schiff isn't going to call the whistleblower you can bet the republicans will want to call them as well as a bunch

of anonymous sources inside the whistleblower complaint. we would like to have an ambassador come testify. the president cannot have counsel present, can't cross-examine witnesses, he is not allowed to present evidence and assert executive privilege when appropriate. as far as what's next in the process, adam schiff is making it up every morning as he goes along and i'm waiting for an answer on a key question. i asked him before the start of the deposition last week what house rule is governing any of this? he refused to answer that question. so there are no rules. the only rules out there the other side will call best practices when they cherry pick leaks, withhold key information and outright lie on what the rules are that we can't be providing our side. >> bill: they are describing these as depositions. you could make an argument. that's what i'm trying to get

at. i know the case you are making publicly. you want the american people and others in your party to hear what's being question and answered behind closed doors. my issue is whether or not ultimately through this process we'll actually hear them under oath in a public hearing in a public setting to talk about what complaints you have from these private hearings. >> 1,000% it should happen and should be happening right now. if they aren't going to have these depositions in public for the entire country to watch in realtime and at least release the transcripts. if they aren't going to do that to your question absolutely let's have the testimony to the american public. imagine there are 435 members of the house of representatives. only a dozen or so members who have been in the rooms for at least part of the time over the three depositions that have taken place. 3/4 of a million people on average live in these congressional districts. they go to their congressman. help me make sense of it.

i have questions. almost every single member of the house of representatives is completely in the dark, let alone the media and american public. >> bill: thank you for coming back here. we'll speak again soon. the republican from new york there as we get ready for another day on the hill. thank you, sir. nine hours, a lot of time to cover a lot of territory. you wonder ultimately how much -- >> sandra: matt gaetz trying to enter the room. the republican on the judiciary committee was asked to leave. we'll see where things go today. hours more of question and answer. a former police officer arrested hours after resigning for shooting and killing a woman inside her own home. her family's emotional reaction next. >> to have american forces come out of harm's way has always been a priority for this president. it didn't mean this president in any way -- in any way encourages violence anywhere in the world. >> bill: the trump

administration hitting turkey with punishing sanctions. will it stop the carnage in syria and reverse the advance of a turkish military and help contain isis terrorists? we'll take it up in a moment and what we understand today. >> sandra: zuckerberg meeting with conservative journalists calling liberal bias on his website. we'll speak to one of the journalists coming up.

>> president trump made it very clear the united states will continue to take actions against turkey's economy until they bring the violence to an end. we want an immediate cease-fire and we want to begin negotiations between turkey and syrian defense forces. >> bill: the white house calling for an end to the violence. turkish military forces pushing

into syria vowing to vice president pence to talk peace. good morning to you. thank you for your time. want to give our viewers perspective for the region we're talking about on the map behind us. israel down to the southwest, iraq to the east, turkey to the north. this is the area and concentration now. we've color-coded it to give you a better sense. yellow is controlled by assad, the leader of syria. in green turkish backed forces that often oppose assad. over here to the east in the aqua color that's what is controlled by the kurdish forces who are aligned with assad late on sunday night. this is the area that's in contention. look at that on the monitor there. the turkish safe zone that erdogan wanted to carve out and right now appears to be doing that rather successfully. what is your view at the moment as we're in day four of this, sir? >> good morning. thanks for having me. my view on this is that the

u.s. sees -- turkish made the attack into is syrian zone at higher speed and greater distance than anticipated. the u.s. has had to pull out in an expedited fashion. what that does is really allows us to not have situational people on the ground. hard for us to see what's happening and it causes two things. first it has caused the syrian democratic forces to rush into the russian-backed syrian regime hands and it is frankly going to push those isis prisoners out. i think. that's a very delicate situation right now, bill. >> bill: i want to show you another thing on the map. a town north of raqqa. it was the headquarters for the caliphate that was destroyed. this town as best as i can tell, major, is 23 miles inside the border from turkey.

is that a period or distance that would be acceptable to the white house or does it far exceed what was believed to be erdogan's intent? >> i don't think it's going to be acceptable to the white house. far further than erdogan's intent. let's back up for a second. when you look at it through the lens of president erdogan, he enjoys widespread support for this attack into syria. number one, this goes after the ypg, the core of the syrian democratic forces they view as a terrorists element. it secures the southern border and three it facilitates turkey the ability to take 3 1/2 million displaced civilians and start to bring them back to syria. when you talk about economic impact to syria while the u.s. is looking at long-term economic sanctions the current short-term economic impact of the syrian refugees is impacting the people of turkey

and why they are supporting president erdogan. >> bill: when you say erdogan has support. he has support in a significant way on behalf of his own people to do this. what erdogan has said. i've heard the number as high as 3 1/2 million in turkey that he wants to return to the area of syria. if vice president pence goes there, general, if you put on the sanctions and make them effective does erdogan listen to that? >> no. i think he will listen but the deed has been done. and so what's happened is we've already lost our reputation. we have abandoned an ally, and thirdly, those isis prisoners are going to escape. so i think, though, we are where we are. this is a positive step forward. i think we have to use long-term economic sanctions. we have to use the influence of nato. we have to look at weapons and armament support of turkey and use those levers against turkey. turkey also has levers. we have two u.s. air bases in

turkey that we use to support operations in the middle east and afghanistan, syria, iraq. so there are levers on both sides of this equation. >> bill: malcolm frost, thank you for your time. when you say it's moved quickly that's an understatement. erdogan has been ready for this. we'll talk again soon in washington, d.c. 20 minutes past the hour. >> sandra: new developments in the shooting death of an unarmed woman in her own home by a texas police officer. >> to the citizens and residents of our city, we feel and understand your anger and your disappointment. and we stand by you as we work together to make fort worth a better place for us all. >> sandra: the killing sparking outrage as her family and friends demand justice. we'll have a live update next. but first, four children are injured by a hit and run driver.

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>> bill: four children injured by a hit and run driver in massachusetts. disturbing video showing the kids outside of a home with their bikes when a vehicle slams head on into them. >> i just remember seeing the headlights and then trying to get away. >> sandra: i could hear a car screech and it serves into us. >> bill: police say the driver backed up and took off dragging one of the bikes with them. two of the kids hospitalized minor injuries. so far no arrests have been made as a result. they're lucky, wow. >> she was enjoying a life in

her home where no one would have suspected it to be her life to be in harm's way especially not at the hands of a civil service who took an oath to serve and protect. >> sandra: the sister of tatiana jefferson shot and killed in her fort worth texas home. the police officer who pulled the trigger charged with murder. aaron dean was arrested. casey stiegel is live with that. >> good morning. following that arrest yesterday, bail was set at $200,000 and aaron dean was able to come up with some of that cash so he is out of jail this morning. in fact, only spending a few hours or so behind bars and this is the former police officer's mug shot. the district attorney's office has charged him with murder. fort worth police chief saying dean resigned from the

department before they had a chance to fire him. the chief also apologizing multiple times to the family of 28-year-old tatiana jefferson shot dead in her mother's home while her 8-year-old nephew watched. dean fired his service weapon at a shadow in a window because he claimed he felt threatened. >> an opportunity for us to make excuses but rather to investigate this case to the fullest. to provide the justice we all seek for tatiana. >> the family says the arrest is a first big step getting justice but noting there is a long way to go. fort worth police have called for a third party to investigate training, procedures and policy to make changes. the case has also been turned over to the f.b.i. to consider whether any civil rights

violations occurred here so a lot moving on multiple fronts with this story, sandra. >> sandra: casey stiegel in fort worth. thanks. >> bill: fox news alert now. hundreds of thousands of people left in the dark in california. they are knocking the utility company for the largest power outage in state history. is this the best way to do it? update on that. >> sandra: plus another key administration official set to testify on capitol hill this morning as republicans accuse democrats of cherry picking information to leak. has the needle moved at all in the impeachment proceedings? >> they are all their witnesses. holy cow, they are all democrat witnesses. it has no merit. >> they'll talk to each other through adam schiff's leaks. that's it. we all want more ener. but with less carbon footprint. can we have both?

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have been able to watch all of this live and even if you're not going to allow the american public to watch it live, release the transcripts. if you actually believe that you should be treating this as grand jury testimony, then you shouldn't be leaking and cherry picking any fact that you think can fit your narrative. >> sandra: republican lawmakers demanding transparency in the impeachment inquiry as the next witness gets ready to go behind closed door. the state department's official view coming as new details are leaked about former russia advisor fiona hill's testimony yesterday. let's bring in the former u.s. attorney and joins us now, brett tolman. great to have you here this morning. what did you make of the revelation fres the behind closed door meeting yesterday. fiona hill telling lawmakers she was so concerned she and john bolton so concerned about what happened at that july meeting about u.s. and

ukrainian relations that john bolton directed her to alert a lawyer in the nsc? did yesterday's testimony change anything as far as the impeachment inquiry is concerned? >> well, it is clear that adam schiff, who is a former u.s. attorney, former federal prosecutor, seems to be conducting this investigation as though he has his own grand jury. what's frustrating about that is when i presented cases to the grand jury i was also bound by rule that prevented me from saying anything about what went on. here he is getting his cake and eating it, too. he gets to put on what witness he wants, ask what questions, no examination by the other side. and then he gets to leak out of context what he thinks are revelations that are important for us to know. that should be troubling to someone. we don't know the context of those statements. >> sandra: that's the case republicans are making. they're cherry picking the information they choose then to leak to the press.

republicans are demanding more transparency. what could happen and the american people should be able to witness the entire thing. could they at least release the transcripts. question and answer sessions? >> the transcripts at a minimum should be released. if you're the democrats why don't you want a level of credibility to this investigation? at least the appearance of it. bring in the attorneys for the president. let them observe what's going on. have the other side there. let individuals that are members of congress who want to be in there be in there. they represent people, the american people and they should be the ones who get to see it. the transcript is the minimum. >> sandra: for the testimony today for george kent three committees will be in the room. however, yesterday was a different scenario. you had one of the members of congress, congressman gaetz a republican walk in the room saying he should be a part of this and they said no and made

him leave. >> yeah. i don't know how to really assess there. i get he is part of the judiciary committee. that committee will be pivotal when it comes to sending impeachment articles to the senate. if someone wants to participate, let him in. he is a member of congress. >> sandra: george kent is scheduled to appear today, another witness will be before lawmakers and they'll have an opportunity to ask him questions. the question continues to be witness after witness, time goes by, we know democrats don't want this to drag on forever. are you seeing that they are making any progress with this? >> what i see is they're filling the media with the narrative that justifies what they are doing. so you have individuals like representative schiff and others that are pushing out there as fast as they can statements that support their position on it.

that's not an inquiry into the facts of an alleged crime by a sitting president of the united states. >> sandra: meanwhile, what we do have this morning is this new interview with joe biden's son hunter biden. he decided to go into an interview and try to answer the questions that the american people have been wanting answers to. here is some of it. >> i made a mistake in retrospect as it related to creating any perception that was wrong. and so therefore i'm taking it off the table. i'm making that commitment. we'll see if anybody else makes that commitment. that's the commitment i'm making. >> you were paid $50,000 for your -- >> i'm a private citizen. i don't have to talk about how much money i make or didn't. >> sandra: did he answer the questions you have about his overseas business dealings? >> he did not.

i investigated corruption and i want to tell you, i want to know whether as a private citizen or not, why they got the job, how they were able to secure it. was there some understanding? and later if you have the vice president of the country saying i told them i wanted the investigation to go away and i would withhold monies that were allocated for ukraine if they didn't, and then you saw that the investigator, the prosecutor was fired, those are the ear marks of corruption that i investigated during my career and any federal prosecutor would want to know what hunter biden knows. >> sandra: we'll see more of that interview throughout the morning. appreciate your time this morning. thank you. >> bill: from california now. the state slapping its largest power company with sanctions after the power shutdowns left hundreds of thousands in the dark. the state wants the power back within 12 hours which would be before a two-day deadline. jonathan hunt has the story live in l.a. what is going on in your state,

jonathan? >> good morning, bill. they're damned if they don't and damned if they don't. the power company is on the defensive in california. pacific gas & electric criticized for actions of cutting off power to hundreds of thousands of customers last week for fear of sparking fires during hot, windy conditions. investigators now saying that a destructive fire that burned down 17 buildings last friday and damaged dozens more began beneath a power line, the precise cause hasn't been turned. they've acknowledged the system was impacted. but if proactively shutting down the power might have helped in that situation here in southern california, power outages hurt hundreds of thousands of people in northern and central california. thousands of businesses forced

to close because of the lack of power. governor newsom said they owed their customers apology and -- he said they have an obligation to the customers affected by the company's inadequate preparation and failed execution of this power shut-off event. lives and commerce were interrupted. too much hardship was caused. those sentiments echoed by the california public utilities commission which said pg&e failed in its execution of the plan. all of which, bill, goes to show the high stakes and the difficulties of fire season here. a power company doesn't turn off a high voltage tower and a huge fire begins under it in southern california. in the north power is turned off. no fires, but chaos ensues and the power company gets roundly

condemned. tough choices when lives and commerce are on the line. >> bill: there has to be better way. jonathan hunt there live in los angeles. thank you, sir. >> sandra: the green bay packers beat the detroit lions with a last-second win on monday night football. >> moments ago. third down and five. rogers same side. and this time it's in the hands of the player. incredible play. >> sandra: major comeback. aaron rodgers kicking off the rally to get within two and packers seal a deal with a 23-yard field goal winning 23-22 over the lions. how does that play into you are -- >> bill: it's tough to win in green bay any time of the year. detroit found that out. how is that? bernie sanders taking aim at american billionaires. the wealthiest americans will

face a 97.5% average tax rate. do the math on that. we'll take it up in a moment and ask you whether or not it's fair. >> sandra: hunter biden breaking his silence on the business dealings dogging his father's campaign hours before his father hits the debate stage. karl rove will be here on that next. >> it feels to me like living in some kind of alice in wonderland where you are up on the real world and you fall down the rabbit hole and the president is the chess shire cat asking you about crazy things. it's for my family, its for my self, its for my future. annuities can provide protected income for life. learn more at retire your risk dot org.

>> sandra: tuesday morning arriving on capitol hill a few moments ago you'll see george kent. he is a top official at the state department still currently at the state department. he is the gentleman in the bow tie there. he is the deputy assistant secretary of state set to be interviewed behind closed doors by three different house

committees just moments from now. so he has arrived. he did not talk to cameras as he entered and he will start his perhaps hours of question and answer with lawmakers shortly. >> if your last name wasn't biden do you think you would have been asked to be on the board of burisma. >> probably not. i don't think a lot of things -- my father was vice president of the united states. little or nothing as a young man or as an older adult that my father in some way has not influence over. it does not serve either one of us. >> bill: a lot on the hunter biden interview. the first time he has spoken since the blowup controversy with ukraine and china, denying any wrongdoing with his business overseas. joe biden tonight will join 11 others on the debate stage in

ohio. karl rove is here. i'll take this first one. there are a lot of things that happened in my life if my last name wasn't biden including the number of positions he held with various businesses throughout his adult life. what did you hear from this interview on abc? >> i heard tone deafness. i heard somebody who could not acknowledge the simple fact that the reason that devin archer and hunter biden were added to the burisma board was that his business partner was a long time associate of john kerry, he was the son of the vice president of the united states. i've got some experience in in part of the world. i used to be on the board of international broadcasting that oversa*u radio free europe in the former soviet union. what was happening then. when these two men were added to the board. a new democratic development in kiev. the company wanted to get some

-- send a clear signal it had juice and stroke in washington so it added the long-time associate of the then secretary of state and the vice president's son to the board even though neither had experience in energy and neither of them had experience in the ukraine. but the whole message was to the central government in kiev, don't mess with burisma because we've got stroke with washington, d.c. and he was tone deaf. same with china. what experience did he have in running an investment fund and how do you get a 1.5 billion dollar equity stake if you don't have any experience in running businesses or running an investment fund? because you are the vice president's son. >> bill: he said on the 12-hour flight to china never talked about it with the vice president, his father, on the plane. possible, maybe not probable. they had a handshake or tea in a beijing hotel. another clip here, too. just a little more context for this, karl. you lived and worked in

washington, d.c. have you seen the number of affiliations that hunter biden has had with american business and foreign business? the list is extensive. either a member of a board or some sort of affiliation. amtrak, a law firm, burisma holdings, endure yeah capital llc, mbna america bank. department of commerce, u.s. world leadership. that's half of what i have here in front of me. back to the interview on gma and i'll ask you. it all sounds, karl, so darn swampy back to hunter biden on gma. >> whether i'm in new york or whether i'm in washington, d.c., a friend and business associate is in the hotel. my dad is sitting there. is it inappropriate for me to have coffee with them? >> what do you say to people who believe this is exactly why people hate washington >> i don't know what to tell you. in retrospect as it related to

creating perception that there was wrong. >> bill: i just went through a partial list. continue, karl. >> some of those are volunteer things. look, everybody is entitled to make a living and one was a delaware-based company and he was a lawyer and you could see him getting hired. the question is sometimes you stretch it and he clearly stretched it in my opinion in ukraine and clearly stretched it in china. these things would not have been available to him if he were not the son of the vice president of the united states. and look, vice president biden understands that now apparently. he says i won't allow this to happen if i'm elected president. he shouldn't have allowed it to happen if he was vice president. i know for fact certain that members of the obama administration were nervous about this at the time that it happened. they were concerned that the vice president of the united states is going to ukraine in anti-corruption efforts at the same time his son is on the board of a stinky company.

think about it. getting paid $50,000 a month and attending two to four meetings a year in kiev. that is great work if you can get it. there is only one reason he had it. that reason was that company wanted to say to the state prosecutor no kiev, don't mess with burisma. we have stroke with washington with hunter biden and devin archer on our board. >> bill: some democrats saying he shouldn't have talked today given the debate tonight. we'll have more on this throughout the day. thank you for that. we have you covered on the big debate later tonight. watch special report with bret baier and shannon bream post coverage at analysis. shannon comes your way at 11:00 p.m. eastern time. we'll have it for you. the fallout in ohio later tonight. >> sandra: lebron james doing damage control. >> the freedom of speech, but at times there are ramifications to the negative

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>> sandra: facebook ceo mark zuckerberg trying to make inroads with the right after accusations of liberal bias. one of the journalists zuckerberg met with the byron york for "the washington examiner" and fox news contributor. perhaps you could tell us exactly from what you heard from mark zuckerberg what his intentions were by holding these meetings? >> the actual content of the meeting was off the record by

agreement beforehand. facebook is facing a lot of issues in washington there are issues about privacy, about the way it handles its users' personal information. there are issues how it handles political speech. there are antitrust issues. people who in washington who want to break facebook up. they have a lot of stuff going on in washington and the way i understood it is that zuckerberg wanted to talk to conservative opinion people from washington, mine was not the only dinner, there were four of us there. and according to what zuckerberg said yesterday he also has dinners with other people across the political spectrum. >> sandra: some of the speculation is that he is trying to appease the trump administration and warm to bill barr who could -- there could be a concern from a company like facebook that they could step in, bring on enforcement, change the company and impose fines, whatever it may be. that's the speculation that is

out there and leading to this #delete facebook. it has been trending since the news of these meetings of mark zuckerberg and conservative media broke, byron. >> i think there is a segment on the left pretty far on the left, that views any inclusion of conservative viewpoints as a concession to -- i don't know, evil or something like that. so i don't take the delete facebook stuff very seriously but the fact is facebook has a lot of people in washington they pay lobbyists, lawyers. they're the large company with a lot of issues in front of the government. i think it's entirely reasonable for journalists and everyone else to look at what they do in washington >> sandra: i'll finish with this. a back and forth with elizabeth warren on the debate stage tonight. her concerns over the company's ad policy.

they have exchanged a fierce back and forth. warren has a high corporate foil and no doubt sincere when she wants facebook to suppress ads by her political opponents. >> i think that's true. there is a lot of speech that facebook suppresses by general agreement. things involving child pornography or terrorism. these are things there is general agreement on. political speech is a much different thing. >> sandra: interesting what we hear on the stage tonight if we do. >> vice president mike pence heading overseas in a negotiated cease-fire. we're live from the syrian/turkey border. come on back at the top of the hour. what??? no, no no no no. battery power runs out.

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you by a long shot the full story of what happened yesterday. >> bill: griff jenkins leaves our coverage live on the hill now. let's beginning there. griff, good morning. >> good morning. if you thought the impeachment inquiry was intense, buckle up because just over my shoulder you have congressman mike mccaul, republican who is the ranking member on the foreign affairs committee. talking and ranting about this process and unfairness. he actually says he spoke to the foreign affairs committee chairman democrat eliot engel saying they may try to work out something. the point is clear, lawmakers are coming back, this process fight is going to escalate in a major way. we'll see where that goes. now, we did see deputy secretary kent arrive here just about 15 minutes ago. he didn't take any questions. we are asking if anyone tried to ask him to not talk. we asked him if he was subpoenaed. he did not indicate earlier. jim jordan said he believes kent was subpoenaed.

democrats want to ask kent who had a close relationship with former ukrainian ambassador marie yovanovitch what was going on behind the scenes behind her removal and the shadow policy that may have been led by personal attorney rudy giuliani. much doesn't leak. the fight over the substance really not leaking in the traditional ways we see here in washington congressman jim jordan earlier today saying that these rules are simply unacceptable. listen. >> they are making the rules up as they go along. they aren't even following their own rules. they don't even follow the rules they put in place. it is secret, if it's going to be helpful to the president and looks like anything they want to leak they're leaking, which is again i think just underscores how partisan and unfair this process is. >> and again you have mccaul and lee zeldin saying they

can't talk about the substance. as far as substance goes and pertains to yesterday's testimony former russia advisor fiona hill, here is what a democrat said to the minority. listen. >> the minority who is using this as an excuse. there shouldn't be a single person standing here who believes for one second if these were open they wouldn't invent another excuse. this is what i really believe. they are darn lucky these weren't public. >> we are just getting this week started. we have several more hearings to go. tomorrow we have michael mckinley, a former pompeo aide testifying, we believe. of course gordon sondland, the u.s. ambassador to the e.u. on thursday. expecting to testify after being blocked last week and a few other officials later this week. the key point here, bill, is when these lawmakers get back start holding conferences maybe we'll learn more about what is going on and maybe there will

be some sort of vote or speaker pelosi will say forget about it. it won't happen. it is definitely going to get hotter before it gets cooler here. >> the united states of america is not going to tolerate turkey's invasion of syria any further. we're calling on syria to stand down. end the violence. and come to the negotiating table. >> sandra: the united states putting turkey on notice. president trump announcing new sanctions as vice president mike pence as you saw there preparing to head to the turkish capital to help broker negotiations. but on the ground the turkish military showing no signs of stopping its offensive onto the kurds. steve harrigan is live in northeastern syria again for us this morning. steve. >> the battlefield here has once again gotten a little more

crowded in the past 24 hours. we're seeing syrian government forces enter the fray as well as russian troops. the russian forces are in between syrian forces and turkish forces acting as a mediator patrolling in between the two sides trying to fill the vacuum left by u.s. forces. two new players on the scene here in a very complicated battle structure. as you mentioned, president trump going all out to try and find a cease-fire here. calling president erdogan of turkey, invoking financial sanctions as well as dispatching vice president pence here to turkey in the near future. a real effort there that has not borne fruit yet. turkish military offensive still going strong. created 160,000 people on the run. about half of those people are children and many of those families say they simply have nothing at this point. aid agencies can't reach them. here is one.

>> there is no place and it has been four days since we've bathed our children. no water, no toilet, no hot water, no gas. >> aid agencies can't get through due to the shelling as well as blocked roads. we're at a mass funeral here today. six people killed by a turkish air strike. five of them were kurdish fighters, one a woman civilian. the mood of the crowd a mixture of anguish for those lost especially among the families but also a burning hatred for the source of that attack. sandra, back to you. >> sandra: steve harrigan in syria thank you. >> bill: want to bring in the headliner dr. bill bennett former education secretary and live on a show on fox nation. start with your reflections on what is happening in syria and what the solution might be here ultimately. >> tough to know what the solution is. i've been on the show many times defending the president.

i wish i could defend him here. i don't think i can. i disagree here. i don't know what the answer is, what more can be done. i'm not a military expert. unfortunate to believe erdogan that he wouldn't unleash this violence. we know what kind of hatred they have for the kurds. and how do you get this genie back in the bottle? steve harrigan talked about a cease-fire. this should have never started in the first place. let me say something about an argument the president has made which i'm very sensitive. he talks about bringing our soldiers home. their place is home not some faraway place they don't know and never heard of. i understand that. my wife and i are parents of a united states marine. and while he served all we could think about was his safety. but that is not why they go. they don't go for their safety. they go to serve. and they go to faraway places in the world. and we pray for them and we pray for their return. but the world is such that the

united states needs to have a presence in some of these places or you don't get rid of isis or al qaeda. that's just the reality. again, it's hard to know exactly what to do but i hope the president will come down very hard on erdogan. a lot of damage has already been done. >> sandra: washington journal this morning trump syria mess. that piece makes the case the world's rogues that a u.s. -- to the world's rogues that a u.s. president has little interest. meanwhile the president has been asking where is hunter biden? hunter biden has finally granted his first interview. it has been airing this morning. here is a chunk of it. >> no i don't regret being on the board. what i regret is not taking into account that there would

be a rudy giuliani and a president of the united states that would be listening to this ridiculous conspiracy idea, which has again been completely debunked by everyone. >> did that interview and hunter biden's answers to the questions ease concern of his overseas business dealings? >> i don't think so and i don't think the timing was very good, either. a wonder if the interviewers will go into that at the debate. biden is a declining stock right now. warren is in the front running now, i think. and so i think more focus will be on her. but this was not good timing. by the way, i thought this debate, the third debate or fourth debate would be smaller. now as i count i think it's

bigger, 12 people. as the focus goes on elizabeth warren and her policies, which are virtually in principle indistinguishable from bernie sanders, you'll hear more and more talk about other people possibly entering the race. there are some smart democrats. there are people who understand that the way move to the left that is going on is not good for this party. i understand bloomberg is making some noises again. >> bill: that was the one who called into question why you did a hunter biden interview on the day of the debate. maybe there is a strategy to get it out there. is it normal for a 49-year-old son of a long serving u.s. senator to be a member of a board or have some sort of affiliation with the numerous companies and organizations that hunter biden has had?

it's bhr shanghai, amtrak, burisma holdings in ukraine, udoro global. america bank. u.s. global leadership coalition, world food program. that's only one-third of what i was able to highlight here. is this normal? >> no, i don't think it's normal. some, yes, as your guest karl rove said earlier some of these are volunteer organizations. and some you meet through handshakes through your father and so on understandable. this is too many and hunter biden in the interview said that yeah, i guess i made a mistake in not seeing how it would be perceived. boy, i guess so. that's for real. maybe straighten out the message between father and son here, did they talk about these things or not? but it shows a kind of willful blindness about one's situation and a lack of understanding of what -- >> bill: what he said in the

abc interview today they never discussed the china deal. that's what he said. joe biden 10 days ago said yeah, we talked about some things to paraphrase what his response was. >> yeah. well, you know, that's it. i take it it was abc, too, the showed footage from syria that was footage from kentucky. so the reputation of a lot of the mass media continues to decline in our time. these are challenging and interesting times. so we'll see. >> sandra: to your point, he opted to do this interview. joe biden said it was his choice in the timing and all of it to do it on the day and have it air on the day of the debate. heading into this polling, elizabeth warren the frontrunner there. polling 30% to joe biden. bernie sanders still in double digits but drops to 11%. what do you expect on that stage tonight?

>> well, as i said i think there could be more attention on elizabeth warren. i would like to know the principle difference between elizabeth warren and bernie sanders. maybe less attention to biden. all the attention that has been paid to him has dwindled this declining stock even more. you know, hunter biden himself admitted, i believe, in that interview that if his name was jones or hemmer, you know, he probably wouldn't have gotten these deals. the other thing is all this long list that bill was talking about of boards on which he served and yet father and son don't seem to communicate? biden says i never, never, talked to him about this? what kind of a deal is that? father and son not communicating and yet all these board memberships are coming. it doesn't add up. >> bill: he said in that interview in the 12-hour flight to beijing they did not talk about it.

that's how he characterized it. fiona hill was there yesterday for nine hours, another on the hill today. how serious do you think this is right now based on what we think we're learning and the leaks out there already? how serious is this for the white house? >> i think a lot of americans are lost on this. you know, they understand that the democrats are in a fever pitch on this intense focus on the president to get him. but it is getting more complicated and very hard to follow. looks like they're grabbing at anything they possibly can to go after the president. i don't think it will fly. i don't think it will work. but boy, i mean, the temperature -- you want the know the temperature is washington it is fall but still very hot on the hill, that's for sure. >> sandra: dr. bill bennett. appreciate your time this morning. thank you. >> bill: nice to see you. >> sandra: los angeles lakers, lebron james finally jumping

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>> sandra: vermont senator bernie sanders rolling out a plan to reverse president trump's tax cuts, raise corporate tax rates back to 35%, and ban stock buy backs. the co-anchor of after the bell. revealing all of this the day before the big debate tonight. >> one thing about bernie sanders we've covered him before. he goes large when he goes in on any of these economic issues. he is up front about the fact that he basically wants to change the way capitalism is practiced in america. >> sandra: pretty much.

>> democratic socialist. it sounds simple. we want to go back to where we were. important to point out sanders wants companies to actually pay that rate. gets rid of all the loopholes and other tax breaks that companies might have gotten to make sure they pay it. offshore tax havens and the like. banning companies from buying back their own stocks. this is a drastic change. he wants the corporate boards, for example, of large companies to be directly elected by the workers, part of a larger transition of power in his words back to the workers in america. to the point of he wants to have if you're a large corporation he wants you to take 2% of your stock every year. put it into a fund that would allow over time 20% of the large corporation in america to be controlled by the workers. just hand it to them. whatever you think of it, this is a drastic change in the way economics --

>> sandra: ahead of the debate tonight his only tweet this morning so far has been tax the billionaires. >> more than just the billionaires. i think you guys talking about it earlier. the 97.5% tax rate. >> bill: he went after elizabeth warren saying she is a capitalist. >> imagine that's an insult in this day and age in the democratic primary. the thing about bernie sanders where he does get marks from people who analyze his plans and say he is up front and honest where he comes from and he is basically saying i want the government to have more control and he will argue he wants the workers to have more control. take this money away from the rich by raising their taxes. there is a contrast with elizabeth warren in terms of how they sell their respective plans. yes, senator warren her plans she is not going to be as up front. we'll see at the debate. >> bill: she hemmed and hawed.

>> to pay for your plans will be raise taxes on the middle class? she never answers that question directly. the answer would be yes. but she never answers it directly. instead she shifts it. i'm sure she will do this again tonight. this is discipline politically. she says their costs overall will go down. that's not the question. the question is taxes, will they go up? her political argument is that your deductibles and things like that overall costs for healthcare will be lower. no matter what you ask her especially if you ask her a direct question about taxes. >> sandra: for those keeping track americans for tax reform released a video 17 times elizabeth warren has dodged that question about the middle class. >> she always goes back to cost. will costs will go down. >> bill: rand paul has a new book out about socialism trying to preach to the younger generation of americans that this is not the road you want to go down. here is rand paul with tucker

last night i do believe. >> remember when i was a kid we'd say that liberal is probably a socialist but never admit to it. now you have people running on the label of being a democratic socialist. i think some of it is they've forgotten their history. >> i think some of that is correct. there are a couple of things looking past writings and what people said in the past. one is that there might be something to the idea that this idea that socialism is quote, unquote, good for america might poll better in a poll than it actually is in practice. do people really believe what they're being asked? you get all this stuff for free and this and that. that polls better. a lot of attention was given to a gallup poll where 43% said socialism would be good for the country up 18% from a similar poll taken back in the 1940s. but to the senator's point there is something to history. if you think about it. our own experiences are shaped

by the history and what we grow up in. the older generations all the way up to generation x would be shaped by the cold war. the millennial generation is probably shaped about the big economic event by the 2008 financial crisis. so they see and have a view of capitalism that is not as positive probably as older generations who have a deeper appreciation for that from the cold war. >> sandra: is there a lesson to be learned there? millennials are turning to this extreme savings plan. financial independence, retire early. these are millennials that want to save so aggressively that they can retire at age 30. >> that would be a good one or would it, by the way? >> sandra: i don't know, how do you do it? >> to be honest would you really want to retire when you were 30 years old? what will you do for the rest of your life? i like working to be honest.

>> bill: play golf. >> sandra: you might be able to retire early. the dow is up a couple hundred points today. >> so this whole idea it is an acronym fire is on the extreme side. on one hand it is saying basic good advice, save as much money as you can and invest as much money as you can and cut down on day-to-day expenses. it wants you to save as much as 75% of what you make and invest that. you say that to a young person, if somebody could invest 5% or 10% of what they make many would think they were doing well. >> bill: a lot of peanut butter and jelly. >> sandra: you were on fire. >> i see what you did there. >> bill: mexico a deadly ambush in the country. a violent drug cartel targeting a convoy of police killing 13 police officers. how the new president is handling the drug war and what

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this incident is making headlines both sides of the border. convoy of 41 cops picking up a woman to testify as a victim of domestic violence were in a village when members of a drug cartel ambushed the cops, killing 13, injuring three. national guard is hunting for those responsible. deadly violence in mexico not new but the new president of mexico ran on a platform called hugs, not bullets. and promised to decriminalize many drug crimes as a way to end this seemingly drug war that takes more than 33,000 lives a year including this year 308 cops, many in states west of mexico city where a new cartel is attempting to take over the meth trade and control the avocado and mine business. u.s. government employees cannot travel in five mexican states including the city of acapulco.

some along the u.s. border and along the coast at night on rural highways where you are susceptible to roadblocks and shakedowns. most mexican tourist nations are safe for 25 million americans who go each year. the plan to stop violence appears futile as long as u.s. drug users help finance it. >> being the subject of donald trump's ier is a feather in my cap, not something that i go to bed nervous about at night at all. the reason i'm able to do that is because i am absolutely enveloped in love with my family. >> sandra: after months of silence hunter biden finally taking questions on his business dealings in ukraine and china. let's go to our a-team. richard fowler is here, jenna ellis rives, 2020 trump advisory member and david asman from the fox business network.

i know you were listening to every word of that interview that we have seen. did he clear up the air on his business dealings? >> i think he muddied the water. the question of would you have got the job if your name wasn't biden was critical? he said probably not. praise him for being honest about that. but that's called at the very least the appearance of conflict of interest. something that supposedly never happened according to biden's first statement. add to that you had a prosecutor on earlier who said add onto that the quid pro quo that biden himself admitted when he was trying to get rid of that prosecutor for whatever reason, and you have what that prosecutor said the ear marks of corruption. doesn't mean there was but it lays the case for an investigation into whether there was corruption. whether it went beyond conflict. conflict of interest or the appearance of it is bad enough. so bad that biden put out the

statement saying his administration will have no conflicts of interest or the appearance of such conflicts. so biden himself has said that what hunter admitted to is wrong. >> i think david put it very well. if we're looking and analyzing this in the context of a legal view, then certainly there is enough here to at least raise reasonable suspicion if not probable cause. when we look at the wider context of president trump looking into this as the president of the united states, we have to remember that he is not divested of any of his powers as the united states president with the ability to look into foreign corruption with the ability to look into a former vice president and all of these things just because he is running for office. if that were -- if anyone would get any sort of immunity here just because they may potentially be an opposition candidate then anyone who remotely has this appearance of

conflict of interest would simply sign up to run as an opposition opponent. so we have to remember the wider context here. i think that hunter biden didn't do himself any favors here. this was clearly just crisis communications. i think the timing is very, very interesting coming out right before the democratic debate tonight. >> bill: ren del is a joe biden supporter and he thought it was a bad timing. >> i think hunter biden's behavior is questionable. is it illegal? didn't break any laws. i think there are questions. with that being said to look at biden and to look at hunter biden without talking about donald trump is a mistake. in the trump white house is ivanka trump and jared kushner. he said you should check out one of my properties for a g8 meeting. you could argue there is a conflict of institution but we're not having that

conversation. >> sandra: hunter biden decided to turn the tables during the interview and point fingers test trump administration. >> i don't spend a lot of time thinking about them, i really don't. it is all noise. what they do is they create just an enormous amount of noise. i have to then answer questions about accusations made by probably the most unethical group of people that we've ever seen in this republic. >> the bottom line is it forces -- i think trump is synth pretty as far as his own position is concerned. not trying to get into the president's head is a difficult thing. i think he wanted the focus to come out and lead back to the bidens. >> no doubt. >> that's what it's all about. that strategy turned out to be correct. it will be the focus tonight in the debate. i think so. i suspect it will be the first question that's asked. >> bill: a lot of that comes

down to the moderators. >> is the media going to then try to help biden tonight? that will be an interesting question. or throw him under the bus. >> this president is under investigation because july 25 he engaged to dig up dirt on his opponent. his private attorney went to ukraine to dig up dirt and the too associates who helped dig up dirt are in jail for campaign finance issues and giuliani was paid a half million dollars by one of those individuals. >> but we have to remember that rudy giuliani acting in the capacity of the president's personal attorney can conduct an investigation and give a vigorous defense. >> in the white house transcript the president indicated that the prime minister of ukraine should talk to his private attorney which imply indicates the president in this investigation. >> the ukrainians who were arrested that rudy was

apparently dealing with, he is a former prosecutor. he should have known that these guys -- >> bill: apparently if you read the indictment it is dated prior to the time they were together. let's see where it goes. we want to talk about this hearing. nine hours a day. they're called by democratic lawmakers. i don't know what's going on behind closed doors. matt gaetz tried to find out. he was kicked out. >> on september 12th, a month ago the judiciary chairman launched the impeachment inquiry and today adam schiff removed me as a member of the judiciary committee from the deposition he was taking. this the proof democrats can't win a fair election or debate and cannot run a fair impeachment inquiry because they're stacking the deck doing everything they can to limit our access to witnesses and evidence. not allowing us to call witnesses. >> bill: on and on it goes. >> this is further proof the

democrats aren't interested in fact finding. they aren't interested in due process or impeachment other than thar political purposes. if they were they would allow equal access and allow white house counsel to look at everything and conduct it like a legitimate investigation. but again the appearance of bias going back to even biden. why would they possibly conduct it this way unless they simply wanted to make a plan for public opinion? >> regardless whether you're a republican or democrat this is not the way it should -- >> sandra: why not bring the release the transcripts and let the american people? >> a couple of things. gaetz is from the judiciary committee. the parliamentarian ruled he should not have been in the meeting. if this was the f.b.i. investigating this and a grand jury. >> nadler is the one who started this.

>> the facts are here. the second point here this was the f.b.i., if a grand jury was impaneled you would never let the defense team in if a grand jury was investigating. that's what happening for the fact finding purpose. >> an impeachment inquiry is supposed to be the most open public hearing in our democracy because it attempts to overturn an election. what we are seeing here is the opposite of an open public investigation. it should be open public,. it should have been voted on as far as i'm concerned. >> i'm all open for transparency. this is a phase of the investigation that we're in now is fact finding. democrats are trying to put the facts together trying to talk to all the witnesses and we're also living in a world where donald trump is trying to out the identity of the whistleblower. requires for second rest -- secrecy. >> they are trying to make it

as hard as possible. when bill clinton went true this process we say a transparent white house. we're seeing -- >> open impeachment inquiry. >> but we are currently in the fact finding part of this investigation. >> this goes against everything we know about the way an impeachment inquiry is investigated. it needs to be open. >> we also know every one of these facts. every fact that comes out makes us more and more damning for the white house. >> they're degrading the process. what information gets out -- >> bill: i would love to see what the questions and answers are and we should be able to hear it. maybe at some point we shall. thank you to you all. over at nbc they have issues. we'll get to that. lebron james. why some believe the comments he is making are now out of bounds.

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>> i'll get into a word or sentence feud with daryl. but daryl morey, but i believe he wasn't educated on the situation at hand and he spoke. and so many people could have been harmed not only financially but physically, emotionally, spiritually. just be careful what we tweet and we say and what we do even though yes, we do have freedom of speech. but there can be a lot of negative that comes with that, too. >> bill: the first time that lebron james has spoken about the controversy from last week in china. he was referring to daryl morey from the houston rockets nba team, the gm down there saying

he should have weighed the consequences his word before posting on social media. i watched this interview. i'm a little confused what the misinformation is here or there and everywhere. why don't you make sense of it and we'll take the viewers through it. >> lebron seems to be talking about misinformation here, i think. isn't it what he is saying potentially dangerous. morey sent out the tweet before the nba made his trip to china. lebron questions if it's responsible. a lot of people in the nba will look at what lebron writes and says and say it's wrong. >> the nba very frustrating for lebron james. the face of the nba and the face of basketball around the world. goes to china and doesn't get to be lebron james. had to bite his lip the entire time. >> bill: the tweet that started

it all. daryl morey fight for hong kong was the tweet he sent out. houston rockets very popular in china. it was deleted and he apologized. after lebron did that interview he went to twitter to clarify. he said let me clear up the confusion. i do not believe there was any consideration of the consequences or ramifications of the tweet. i am not discussing the substance. he sent another tweet. do we have that? my team and this league just went through a difficult week. i think people need to understand what a tweet or statement can do to others and i believe nobody stopped to consider what would happen. could have waited a week to send it. >> i think lebron james is thinking about himself. i don't think he is thinking about what people in hong kong are fighting for in this case. so it's okay to tweet when it's lebron's issue but something else he is not willing to put his name behind then we have a problem? who does more potential damage

here? lebron also said i think when we talk about the political side it is very delicate situation, very sensitive. lebron gets into delicate political situations and doesn't seem to have a problem how it rubs other people because he is lebron james. we have a problem with daryl morey? >> bill: do you believe the people of hong kong have the right to make their own laws to govern them? >> daryl morey didn't want to get involved. he just wanted to say this a obvious. wouldn't most people agree with what he has saying? >> bill: he was saying fight for hong kong. suggest it would support the people in the streets to not be dictated by beijing and make their own laws. >> i think lebron james would say the same thing. >> i don't think he clarified anything. >> bill: it wasn't cleaned up. >> lebron james has to be careful about his tweets. people are looking to see if

what he said was socially responsible. >> bill: for the nba season this will be an issue for the entire year things like this will come up. >> sandra: thanks, jared. new scrutiny targeting nbc as new reports suggest executives tried to stifle ronan farrow's reporting. howard kurtz will join us live next on all the drama. employeesn just a paycheck. you definitely want to take advantage of all the benefits you can get. 2/3 of employees said that the workplace is an important source for personal savings and protection solutions. the workplace should be a source of financial security. keeping your people happy is what keeps your people. that's financial wellness. put your employees on a path to financial wellness with prudential.

>> walked out nbc news and within two months published and incredible article that not only won a pulitzer but helped trigger a massive social and cultural reckoning that continues to this day. the kind of journalism that you want to do as a journalist. >> sandra: msnbc's chris hayes calling out his news organization while praising his former colleague ronan farrow. joining us now is howard kurtz host of "media buzz". where does it all stand this morning? >> i want to give credit to chris hayes, taking on your own network. nbc is in damage control mode.

the extensively reported ronan farrow book has been -- two facts can't be gotten around as they try to discredit him. as chris hayes said it was proved to be not just an incredible expo say of harvey weinstein but kicked off the me too era. secondly, for all of the denials i'm hearing from the network i haven't heard the executives address this point. simply ronan farrow says in his book there were six or seven settlements, secret settlements by nbc with women who said they had been victims of sexual misconduct and several of those involved matt lauer, it undercuts the argument if true we didn't know anything about the allegations about matt law you are until we heard the rape accusation. >> bill: he clearly does not believe people who manage him or employ him --

>> he is siding with ronan farrow. nbc trying to protect the franchise and trying to attack ronan farrow. i don't think it will work. now that people are seeing the book you are seeing things like the secret settlements, the allegations against lauer, the story is not going away for nbc. >> bill: accusations of partisan unfairness in the impeachment inquiry after the house intel chair kicked out a republican out of a hearing. that man is florida congressman matt gaetz. he will be our guest to tell us what happened inside the room coming up shortly. to present to you today. [son]: who are you talking to? [son]: that guy's scary. the first item on the list is selecting a chairman for the... for the advisory board what's this? as well as use the remaining... child care options run out. lifetime retirement income from tiaa doesn't.

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refi now at newdayusa.com >> sandra: fox news alert top of the 11:00 hour. new york city we're awaiting a press conference to happen on the fort worth shooting. this was a fort worth officer who is charged with murder after receiving a call, a concerning call, went to a woman's home and ended up shooting her in her own home. the officer resigned before he was able to be fired but he has now been charged with murder. as you can see they are set up for a news conference in fort worth, texas. an update on charges. >> bill: police were called to the home at 2:30 in the morning. the home of the mother of the deceased in the neighborhood. one of the neighbors called for a non-emergency line to the

police department. they respond, the woman is shot through the window. let's go ahead and drop in if they're ready we'll take the statement from fort worth. here we go. >> good morning and thank you for being here. we would like to update you on the criminal investigation. first i realize that no action we take can replace the loss suffered here. i'm deeply sorry for what occurred. i have received main contacts from our officers and want to express how sorry they are as well and it's not indicative of the work they do every day. human life is a precious thing and should not have been taken from ms. jefferson. it has eroded the trust we've built with our community and we must now work even harder to insure the trust is restored.

concerning the status of the criminal investigation, at approximately 6:00 p.m. yesterday aaron dean was arrested for the murder of ms. jefferson. facts were analyzed and verified. a team of officers affected his arrest at the office of his attorney. he was booked into the jail and bond was set and he has since posted bond. we're continuing to work closely with the criminal district attorney's office to insure this entire investigation is prosecuted in a thorough, meticulous and solid manner. to the citizens and residents of our city, we understand your frustration and disappointment. i feel frustrated and disappointed by what occurred and the officer's actions. we never want an officer's response to a call to end in the loss of life.

a great many officers who work extremely hard every day and they do this at great sacrifice and with a servant's heart. please do not let the actions of one officer reflect on the other 1700. there is absolutely no excuse for this incident. the person responsible will be held accountable. ms. jefferson's family and our community will have the last word. the courts will speak on her behalf. each and every one of you have our support and commitment to serve you better. we strive to be better every day than we were the day before. my prayer is for the family, our community and our department comes from numbers 6:24-26. may the lord bless you and keep you, may the lord's face shine

upon you and be gracious to you. the lord lift up countenance upon you and give you peace. take some questions. >> the jefferson family says that they want reforms in what they see as a brutal police culture. what needs to change in the fort worth police department? >> as the city manager alluded to yesterday we're looking at bringing in an independent third party group to come in and evaluate our policies and practices and our training to insure that we are above best practice standards. >> sandra: a fort worth police officer charged with murder after fatally shooting a woman in her own home after receiving a phone call. aaron dean, 34 years old was arrested on monday night. he is no longer with the department. as you just heard the police details there he has been charged with murder. he posted bond so he is free on bond right now. on bail after posting bond.

the police there saying her life should not have been taken. we understand your frustration to a very frustrated community who is calling for justice in the wake of this and said we're ultimately disappointed in the actions of this officer. we'll continue to update you on this story as we get more. >> bill: five minutes past the hour. another witness on the hill called by democrats and appearing before lawmakers behind closed doors. this time it's deputy assistant secretary of state george kent. republicans demanding transparency from democrats who are leading the probe. john roberts begins his day from the white house now on the north lawn there. john, good morning. >> good morning to you. this is exactly what the white house is complaining about with this impeachment process. the lack of due process which is why the white house has so far refused to cooperate with the investigation. in the letter that the white house counsel said to pelosi and schiff at all saying you

have denied the president the right to cross-examine witnesses, to call witnesses, to receive transcripts of testimony, to have access to evidence, to have counsel presence and many other rights guaranteed to all americans. congressman jim jordan has the same complaint that it is going on behind closed doors and the information is being selectively leaked to damage the president citing leaks about the fiona hill interview yesterday. >> "the new york times" has a long piece today talking about things that took place in that room. it is secret and anyway helpful to the president it looks like thinking they want to leak they're leaking. how partisan and unfair this process is. >> one thing from the testimony yesterday former national security advisor john bolton reportedly referred to rudy giuliani as a hand grenade in ukraine who is going to blow everybody up. i spoke to giuliani about that

this morning who told me quote i am disappointed in john. i'm not sure he realizes i received all this evidence as part of my representation of the president. it was all part of the evidence and suppression of evidence involving ukrainian collusion and the origin of some of the false information against the president. on capitol hill today as you mentioned george kent, the deputy assistant secretary of state of state for oour asian affair. giuliani accused kent to working together with the former ambassador of ukraine yovanovitch to protect the bidens from an investigation by ukraine's former prosecutor general. we'll see, bill, what leaks from this one. >> bill: certainly will. stand by at the white house for that then. john, thanks. >> sandra: let's bring in jessica tarlov and charlie hurt as well as a fox news contributor. good morning to both of you. so charlie, get us started here. that's part of the frustration that we're hearing from

republicans is that democrat -- these are selective leaks on the part of democrats and in particular the chairman adam schiff of the intel committee and they feel a lack of due process and lack of transparency. >> indeed it really is a real problem if they are trying to do a serious investigation, they're trying to get to the truth of what happened here, they are doing a poor job of it. because you don't do something like this behind closed doors. moreover, all of this, the drips and drabs coming out from behind closed doors adds more questions than it does any sort of answers. first we had the hearsay witnesses. then we have secret witnesses. now we have opinion witnesses who are expressing their opinions about what we already know, which is the transcript of the phone call. and you can have an opinion about what went on in that phone call. the president thinks it was

perfect. other people think that there were problems with it. but there certainly was no grand smoking gun that proves high crimes or misdemeanors. so all of this -- this whole process is doing nothing but undermining, i think, the democrats' effort if they really do want to have -- try to prosecute a fair case. >> sandra: this argument is not unfamiliar to you. you've been hearing it from republicans. the lack of transparency. why not show us the transcripts and let the american people in on the process? >> there will come a time we'll get the information. fiona hill and -- the democrats aren't violating any process. when republicans make it an issue of transparency and they're as guilty of leaking as democrats. they're trying to evade.

i disagree with charlie here. democrats are building a strong case here. not only does the call have that sentence do me a favor when he is asking for something in exchange from president zelensky. what we heard from fiona hill about john bolton's reaction to the call is damping. he said right away go to general counsel of the nsc and i don't want to be involved in a drug deal between what's going on between july july and mcvaney. >> respond to that, charlie. >> that's great. that's -- it is interesting that john bolton had that reaction but again that's an opinion witness. that's just his opinion of what is going on here about something that we've all seen. we've seen the transcript. that's john bolton's opinion. it differs from other people's opinion. it is totally irrelevant. in a court of law it wouldn't

be permissible. maybe jessica is right. maybe there is some reason. i can't imagine what it would be for doing the stuff in secret but if you are the democrats and you don't want this to look like a partisan witch hunt they're doing a bad job of it. it looks like a partisan witch hunt. >> sandra: the debate on capitol hill as we speak. more testimony being given. we're tracking it all for you. charlie, thank you very much. jessica, ask you about international day of the girl. >> it was on friday october 11th at the end of last week. digital group where i work when i'm not here. a study where we created a girl's bill of rights in partnership with a wonderful not for profit. dedicated to combating gender inequality through education and worked with a market research firm to survey 2,000 young women in america ages 14-22 about what rights they

think are more important to them and most at risk as well. all stemming from something called a global girls initiative. they presented that on friday at the u.n. to the deputy undersecretary general and head of u.n. women. the results were fascinating. >> sandra: we're running out of time. tell people where they can learn more. >> learn more online and the articles are up there. education, healthy planet and a life free of sexual and domestic violence. >> sandra: appreciate you. you don't talk about politics all the time? >> i can get political about those rights. thank you, sandra. >> bill: thank you, ladies. 12 past the hour. fox news alert. hours away from a democratic presidential debate. right now there is a brand-new frontrunner nationally. how will that help shape tonight's event? stay tuned. >> here we are at round two, the democrats putting in their last-ditch effort to try to get donald trump out of the white

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>> sandra: the stage is set for a record breaking presidential debate. a dozen democratic candidates qualifying. the most ever for a debate. elizabeth warren leads joe biden nationally by three points. david pepper is chairman of the

ohio democratic party. good morning to you, david. so set it up. what are the expectations for the big night? >> you know, obviously the biggest debate ever. a lot of great candidates on the stage. i think a lot of issues will come up. i would say in ohio right now there are a lot of people who are feeling the pain of broken promises whether it's soybean farmers, auto workers, we had that terrible shooting in dayton a couple of months ago. in addition to i'm sure the topics of impeachment and ukraine our hope is we get a lot of the issues that everyday ohioans are thinking about. my guess is we had a big dinner the other night that the candidates are primed to talk about the issues that matter most to everyday ohioans. >> sandra: do you expect that hunter biden and his business dealings overseas will be brought up to joe biden? >> my guess is that if i were a moderator that would be one of the first questions i would ask about. since the last debate the entire scandal when it comes to

ukraine and giuliani and what they've been doing as well as syria have both dominated the news. my guess would be, you know as much as i do. that would be some of the early things talked about is joe biden's first chance on the big stage to respond to this smear against him and his family. then also i do hope that not too long into the debate we get into issues like auto workers who are really frustrated by the closing of the lordstown plant and soybean farmers questioning multiple generations of family farmers wondering if they can go on since they've lost their markets to china. no doubt those washington, d.c. stories are important and will be talked about. our hope in having the debate here in the first place was to get to the kinds of issues that ohioans are worried about sitting around their kitchen table. >> sandra: biden according to the new polling remains the most electable candidate in voters' minds with 48% of respondents saying he is the one to beat donald trump in the 2020 general election.

is elizabeth warren gaining ground, however? >> you know, we could all watch. it looks like she is picking up ground not just from biden but other candidates. she is running, we've seen it here she is running a strong campaign. the other candidates have also been to ohio a lot not just in the last year but over the years. you have a lot of folks here that ohio democrats respect and have gotten to know. so we'll see. i think that it's clearly going to be a tight race all the way through. what we've been happy about is ohio democrats not only if you agree with this, in the last couple polls every democratic candidate for president has been tied or ahead with donald trump and donald trump has been consistently under water in ohio. again not just because suburbs like this one which used to be red are now blue and this is outside of columbus where the debate is but also because. >> sandra: sorry to cut you off. we have a minute left. i hear it interesting you keep

bringing up the economy when we know that bernie sanders, he has unveiled his new tax plan increase the corporate tax rate. you are talking about saving companies. he is talking about taxing them a whole lot more. elizabeth warren is cracking down on big corporations as well. so it's interesting that when you've got a stock market that's as high as it is and unemployment as low as it is you think that's where democrats will gain ground on that stage tonight? >> yeah. if you go to lordstown and talk to gm workers out of a job where donald trump promised he would bring jobs back there and the plant shuts down and he says it does than matter that stock market price isn't helping them too much. the farmers, soybean farmers same thing. the wild trade war is not even a policy, a bunch of tweets have thrown soybean farmers to the wind and they are struggling. all parties make mistakes when they run around and the stock market means real lives will change.

if donald trump thinks he will win because of that he is mistaken. if he goes to auto workers and farmers around the state. people stressed about healthcare he would hear quickly that people are really concerned and really frustrated and want to see washington help them a lot more than what is happening lately. >> sandra: a lot of republicans we've spoken with tonight expect socialism will be a big topic tonight as far as republican view is concerned. we'll see where it all goes. it will be a big night for your party. david pepper, we appreciate your time ahead of that. >> thank you. appreciate it. >> bill: breaking news now. syria/russian forces looking to fill the void left behind as our u.s. forces pull out. we'll go live to the pentagon and let you know what we're learning about this video. the latest on the former police officer now charged with the murder of a woman inside her mother's home. >> there is no justification

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>> the person responsible will be held accountable for this incident. ms. jefferson's family and our community will have the last words. the courts will speak on her behalf. >> bill: a moment ago as the police chief after an officer shot and killed a woman inside of her mother's home over the weekend. the officer charged with murder just hours after resigning from the force. the judge andrew napolitano, judicial analyst and host of liberty file on fox nation.

he was charged with murder. he resigned quickly. the police department moved quickly. what could his possible defense be? let's begin with that. >> i would think his defense will be legal justification which would require him to demonstrate to a jury. he would have to prove to a jury after the government proves him guilty he would have to prove to a jury that he had a justifiable fear in his mind of physical harm to himself and the only way to address that fear was the use of physical force. this is a subjective test. did the fear exist in his mind? not rational. proving this is see difficult under texas law. we had a criminal case. in that case the other case was a female white officer killing an african-american male in his home. her defense was honest mistake. she was not able to prove that

defense and she was found guilty and sentenced to 10 years. the maximum sentence range for murder in texas the only state in the union that has this, 5 to 99 years set by the jury after conviction. that's what this former cop is facing. >> bill: texas gives the jurors a lot of attitude as far as punishment should be. the dallas news says body cam footage shows the officers in the backyard of the home before dean, the officer, now fired, spins toward a window, shouts at jefferson to put up her hands and shoots her through a window all in a matter of seconds. >> that would make it very difficult for him to demonstrate that he had the type of justifiable fear of his own death. own death caused by her. the only way he could save his own life was to kill her. hard for him to demonstrate that. >> bill: they were playing video games. perhaps she had something in

her hand and perhaps that goes with the video game they're playing. question for you. the way he was fired, does it suggest to you perhaps the level of how much the police department thought they could or could not defend him? >> my understanding is that he resigned prior to being fired. and the police chief said we were going to fire him anyway. at the time the chief made that statement, he went through a litany of things which, according to the chief, officers in fort worth are trained to do which he did not do. which you're right, would have made it very difficult for him to defend him. now he is on his own. >> bill: you write in most states the prosecution must disprove the affirmative defense. in texas the burden is proof is on the defendant. what does that mean? >> so if you are a police officer charged with murder in new jersey and you say my defense is that it was justifiable, the state as part

of its proofs but demonstrate to the jury it was not justifiable. that adds to the state's obligation. same police officer, same type of killing in texas it's reversed. you must affirmatively demonstrate justifiable cause. it's much higher and very difficult burden to meet. >> bill: breaking news out of texas, thank you, sir. what's next? >> sandra: a nascar crash looking more like a hollywood stunt. >> oh! 62 upside down. >> sandra: remarkably a race car does a 360 and lands right side up after all of that an update on the driver's condition this morning. plus the fight over impeachment on capitol hill. republican congressman matt gaetz kicked out of a hearing room by democrats yesterday. gaetz is here today and he will join us with his story. >> this is proof that democrats can't win a fair election.

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vice president mike pence was tapped last night to lead a delegation to turkey to end what u.s. military officials privately are describing as ethnic cleansing. >> the united states of america simply is not going to tolerate turkey's invasion of syria any further. we're calling on syria to stand down, to end the violence. and come to the negotiating table. >> recently retired army major general malcolm frost says it's too late >> the deed has been done. we've lost our reputation, we've abandoned an ally and thirdly those isis prisoners are going to escape. >> many already have. u.s. officials tell me turkish artillery units are firing on isis prisons in syria. they say turkey is responsible for any isis resurgent.

they accused erdogan of committing possible war crimes that have resulted in the release of many dangerous isis detainees. esper announced he will travel to nato headquarters next week in brussels to determine how the alliance can stop nato ally turkey. keep in mind the u.s. still stores 50 nuclear weapons at a turkish air base. >> sandra: jennifer griffin at the pentagon. thank you. >> bill: republicans slamming democrats calling the closed door hearings unfair and questioning their transparency. my next guest pointing his removal from a hearing yesterday saying things aren't on the level. he is matthew gaetz. republican out of florida. thank you for coming back here. you open the door, knock on the door, what happens? >> i was seated in the committee room when adam schiff

asked me to leave. i inform him i was a member of the judiciary committee and the judiciary chairman on september 12th announced the beginning of the impeachment inquiry. so it is like watching the keystone cops run an impeachment. i have chairman nadler announcing the beginning of this investigation and then i've got chairman schiff throwing me out of the room. i guess my question is if the evidence is so good, why are house democrats doing so much to keep it so secret? >> bill: back up to jerry nadler. he started the judiciary committee. it is not part of this. why not? >> the judiciary committee is the oldest committee in the congress and has handled every impeachment in the modern era. the only reason the judiciary committee has been excluded. we have a number of the president's strongest supporters. they beat them on the russia probe. now you see nancy pelosi reshuffling the legislative deck to try to get an outcome she wants to exclude people like me who defend the

president. >> bill: we had bill bennett on last hour and tried to get a sense how he thinks this is going. he is on the outside. you are much closer to the action. what do you think they are producing based on these nine-hour hearings that last day after day? >> you saw in the "new york times" today a whole lot of information about what allegedly happened in that hearing. unfortunately it lacks the context and the completeness of a full transcript or a full review of the evidence. so we see a very clear shift in strategy from house democrats. during the russia investigation they were willing to put bob mueller before the american people. they were willing forquestion corey lewandowski in front of everyone. the problem is that it went bad for them. after those hearings they were unable to get more support for impeachment. the new strategy is to have limited public view of the evidence, do everything in the basement of the capitol in secret with i think only 12

members participating and then to selectively leak information to try to reshape how people view the president. now, whether you love the president or hate the president, this is no way to run an impeachment. they're talking about overturning the will of the american people and if they want to do that they ought to be willing to do it in public. >> bill: two more pointed questions. what bennett described he is getting more confused by the day. do you believe that this is getting tied up in a knot here or are they moving the ball forward where they'll say here is what we've got and now we're going forward? >> i think what they'll do. the current intelligence committee led effort will produce a report. that report will come to the judiciary committee and rapidly fashioned into articles of impeachment and move to the house floor potentially before thanksgiving. a rocket docket impeachment in secret and easy to understand why various people like bill bennett would be confused by such a rattled process that

lacks even consistency with the statements of the judiciary chairman a month ago. >> bill: last question here. at some point those doing these interviews or deposition or however it is characterized behind closed doors. do they sit in front of a bank of lawmakers with a television camera on them and answer the same questions? >> that's a great question. i don't know the answer. there are no rules. when republicans impeached bill clinton they set out rules that allowed the minority to subpoena witnesses and allowed the president's counsel to be president and laid out the expectations to answer precisely the question you've asked. the american people should be asking why does nancy pelosi enact a system that provides less due process for president trump than republicans provided for president clinton? what is it about this impeachment of president trump that is so different that would have nancy pelosi go to such extreme measures to keep the evidence secret? i think it's pretty insulting to all the democrats running for president on the debate

stage tonight that nancy pelosi has such little confidence in them she is trying to remove the president now. there is an expectation if he is not impeached he will be reelected in 2020. >> bill: see if that answer that tonight in ohio. thanks for coming up. >> sandra: it was a stunner at the talladega speedway yesterday. look at this. >> the 62 upside down. >> sandra: too much excitement there. the multi-car pile-up in the final laps of the race sending one racer airborne at 200 miles per hour. the car doing a 360 today flip before it lands back on all four wheels. the driver walked away from the crash without any injuries. >> bill: hold it, hold it. ready for this? man, oh man. you know what they call that,

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trump for the gop nomination. i'll ask you why in a second but where do you stand on impeachment of the president? >> he is in a tough spot on the law. i worked on both the nixon and clinton impeachments and used to be head of the criminal division of the justice department. it is my area. those folks who wrote the constitution two things they worried most about were foreign interference and use of the office for private gain. those seem to be imme indicated by the ukraine caper so-called. >> sandra: democrats are digging for any evidence of that. they continue with their impeachment proceedings. if they have evidence of that they haven't shown it. so you favor the impeachment going for the impeachment of the president? >> i think it's there on paper, sure. >> sandra: are you calling for the impeachment of the president? >> no, i think that's a yes. i think it's time for the house to go ahead with their inquiry. it goes in steps. first there is an inquiry, then they make a decision.

if the decision is yes it goes to the senate. >> sandra: they have not voted on that in the house. we'll see where it all goes. why do you want to run against the president? >> i would like to use my skills and my experience to be president of the united states which i've been thinking about a long time. i almost did this previously. and once you make that decision, it really doesn't matter who else is in the race. >> sandra: what would you run on? >> i would run on being an economic conservative. someone to do a lot with climate change. who would do a lot with k-12 education, probably reverse a bunch of the president's foreign policy initiatives relying on tariffs and sanctions as a leading indicator of foreign policy and it wouldn't be my style. >> sandra: i hear a republican launching climate change. you gave a speech at dartmouth where you kicked things off. >> that's true. i do think climate change is a major issue. maybe even my number one issue.

there is a difference between me and the democrats. their proposals are i'll spend $16.3 trillion. sanders, i'll spend $1.3 trillion, biden. how much will they spend? inputs. my proposal is no, we have to put a price on carbon and then let the market take care of pricing carbon and it will result in less carbon in the atmosphere and that's what we have to do. we don't have to spend 10 or 15 or 20 trillion dollars. >> sandra: fascinating to hear that. as we see democrats continue to push forward with impeachment of the president we have another witness behind closed doors on capitol hill today. republicans are saying there is a lack of transparency in this process. show us the transcripts. let us in the room. you heard from matt gaetz from house judiciary let me in on this but they're stopping a lot of that and there is an air of secrecy that is happening. i just wonder if you think it behooves your party a year out from the next election to continue to -- as far as the

republican party is concerned to continue to press for that, to let this happen, what should the strategy be on the part of your party, governor? >> the republicans are allowed to push back. they don't have to roll over and play dead. so sure, they can -- this isn't bean bag. this is playing for all the marbles. my advice to democrats is keep it simple. don't come in with a kitchen sink and 66 different articles of impeachment. the country is already tired, exhausted and i think if things were narrowed and if the house went ahead. >> sandra: that seems to be the debate right now in addition to impeach or not to impeach. now that the impeachment process is on and adam schiff leading this thing he is not telling people what's happening behind closed doors. let the american people come through this process with you. as a republican sitting here who just called for the impeachment of the president where do you stand on that? >> i worked on the nixon impeachment back in the 70s. the same issues came up.

the chief republican counsel and i was the associate republican minority counsel. all the fighting was about the right of cross examination and that sort of thing. >> sandra: as far as the polling is concerned and where you stand and things i haven't seen the national poll where you have risen about 3% running against the president. a new hampshire poll where you stop 13%. >> hey, baby. >> sandra: what is the conclusion you draw from that? >> well that's higher than john mccain was at this point when he ran. he ran as an insurgent in the republican primary twice in 2000 and 2008. senator mccain won both of those races. the guy who was his chairman is serving as my chairman. hope springs eternal. >> sandra: the former governor of massachusetts bill weld. thank you for your time. >> bill: in a moment awaiting an appearance in court with reports of sexual misconduct. live to the courthouse and tell

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>> bill: heading back to court facing new charges in a sexual misconduct matter. we're tracking that on the sidewalk of new york city outside the courthouse. brian. hello. >> bill, good morning. first there was one, now there are reportedly five women accusing actor gutting jr. of sexual misconduct. gutting will be arraigned on new charges based on these allegations of sexual wrongdoing by a second woman. gutting's defense attorney says the charges stem from an incident that took place in october of 2018. the attorney says there is vairl answer video of this incident that he believes will ultimately prove that gutting

is innocent as the "new york post" reports three other women have come forward to police alleging sexual misconduct by the 51-year-old actor. one woman claims gutting grabbed her butt back in 2008. another woman claiming a similar incident happened to her in 2013. charges have not yet been brought up from these incidents but the "new york post" reports that ultimately that the police are investigating them right now. this all started on june 9 when a woman claims gutting groped her breast without consent at a rooftop bar in time square, new york. video of the alleged incident after this june incident, gutting was arrested and charged with forcible touching and sexual abuse. gutting's attorney spoke this morning. >> we are completely confident that there will be no criminal conviction of cuba gutting

junior, cuba gutting junior is certainly innocent of the allegations that will be presented today before the court. >> situation bill clearly becoming more serious for gutting. two women pressing charges, three other women reportedly going to police. >> we're watching that in new york. nice to see you. >> sandra: hunter biden speaking out for the first time since the ukraine controversy broke. did he help or hurt his father with that interview ahead of tonight's big debate? atoid arths or psoriatic arthritis. when considering another treatment, ask about xeljanz xr, a once-daily pill for adults with moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis or active psoriatic arthritis for whom methotrexate did not work well enough. it can reduce pain, swelling, and significantly improve physical function. xeljanz can lower your ability to fight infections like tb;

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limping gibson rounding for us there. hit the iconic walk-off home run to beat the oakland athletics in the world series. it would go on to be his entire only at-bat for the entire series. he made this on the state back in 1988. they went on to win the series, 4 games to 1. that was quite a moment. >> sandra: you remember that. i heard you at another baseball fan in our control room talking about the day of the week. >> bill: i was pretty good one. it was saturday night. definitely weekend, though. the >> sandra: [laughs] okay. >> bill: vincent scully, may have been the call of his life. that ball launched off into the l.a. night. cool stuff. >> sandra: pretty awesome. great memory. >> bill: gibson was in the clubhouse most of the game. tommy lasorda went down there and said, "hey, kid, we might need you." he was injured. and then the release picture on the mound, they work into a full count. sorry, am i going to much? >> sandra: amazing. >> bill: the backdoor slider,

that's when gibson said he was waiting for the backdoor slider, and off it went. >> sandra: love it, bill hemmer x and a great job! nice to end on that there you have it. >> bill: i'm out! i've got nothing else. >> sandra: we will see you back here tomorrow morning. "outnumbered" starts right now. >> harris: fox news alert, hunter biden has broken in silence amid growing scrutiny over overseas business dealings, particularly those during the time of his father, joe biden, as vice president. as he pursues between 20% a bit. hunter biden acknowledging he probably would not have got on the board of the ukrainian oil company, burisma, if his last name or not biden. well he says he doesn't regret his business ventures, he does admit has actions of late into the hands of his father's clinical enemies. watch. >> i'm a human. did i make make a mistake? maybe, in the grand scheme of things, yeah. but