>> there's a reason why were playing that song. scott will be rocking this veranda on that stage tomorrow. >> see you tomorrow. >> sandra: southern california on high alert after a sniper opens fire outside of the california sheriff's office. the gunman remains at large after wounding a deputy in the shoulder. that same deputy was able to call it in. >> taking shots. got me in the right shoulder. >> sandra: that deputy, we are told, will be okay, but now a massive manhunt is underway. we are going to have more on this later in the hour. but first, an american man charged with killing a hotel worker on his family's vacation. heading to court and the caribbean today.

good morning, everyone, i'm sandra smith. >> and i'm jon scott, and for bill hemmer. he claims that he killed him in self-defense while on vacation. he insisted he would do it all over again to protect his family. here he is speaking out for the first time on the ordeal. >> this is my first experience with any kind of legal matters. so i'm nervous because i just don't have experience, but i know that i was a victim. my family was a victim here. i think that the truth will come out. >> sandra: new report saying that he is worried he will not get a fair trial there. david lee miller is following it all for us. >> freed on $74,000 bill. accused of manslaughter on the caribbean island of anguilla. he says that hotel maintenance

worker kenny mitchell showed up to his room, armed with a knife, demanded money. the two men fought, and when it was over, he was dead. returning for a procedural hearing today. giving them more time to prepare. he told "the new york post" "he was surprised by his arrest," telling the newspaper "i was innocent from day one." he went on to say that there is a lack of confidence in the system there, the judicial system. underscoring that, his lawyer earlier this week so that officials on the island acknowledge that his life has been threatened. preparing dominic insuring his safety, he travels with private. they will reportedly have a special detail assigned to him. also shaking confidence in the legal system, they are kept secret for more than two months, the toxicology report they say

shows kenny mitchell had high levels of alcohol as well as cocaine and other drugs in his blood. we reached out to authorities and have not heard back. mitchell's family, members say that he would never try to rob and attack a hotel guest. they say that the media reports about him are simply not true. hapgood not only maintains his innocence, but he says i was the trial was over today. i wish the facts were coming out today so that i could move on with my life. >> sandra: big story. we will be watching it throughout the morning. thank you. >> jon: strong new reaction pouring in from both sides after the trump administration announces new immigration rules that would keep families and migrants together indefinitely as they await chordates. democrats are slamming to move out cruel and dangerous. president trump says it's the right thing to do. >> president obama has separation. i'm the one that brought them together. this new rule will do even more

to bring them together. >> i think the trump administration people sit around every day, thinking about new ways to be cruel to these migrants. >> very high standards of care for children in custody. implements the 20-year-old settlement, also allows us to keep families together through immigration proceedings. >> jon: newt gingrich is standing by with direction for us, but we begin with kevin corke. he is reporting live from the white house. >> good to be with you. it actually makes things worse in regard to illegal immigration. the thinking is you can simply write out 20 days and simply never show up for your court hearing, so they have made up proposal to change that agreement. let me take you to some of the facts about that. it is fairly simple. we learned yesterday that this has been unveiled, this role would allow indefinite family detentions. it will be published in the federal register and approved by

a judge. it is all about deterrence and safety. >> when they see you can't get into united states or when they see if you do get into the united states, they will be brought back to their country, it won't matter if they get in are not, because we are doing that. they won't come. and many people will be saved. >> the concern is and has been for some time the traffickers and others are effectively gaming our immigration and asylum systems by using children to gain entry into the country, and if the administration has its way, that will end soon. >> no child should be up on in a scheme to manipulate our immigration system, which is why we will eliminate the incentive to exploit children. one judgment in guatemala told me a passport for migration into the united states. >> the democrats are lashing out. joe biden saying this.

"it's cruel and abhorrent to strip my grandchildren of the few protections that they have. they put them in cages without soap and beds and i want to keep them there indefinitely. this is and who we are." kamala harris saying something very similar on twitter as well. don't forget we expect to see this later today. bob kuby, 91 years young. he will be awarded the presidential medal of honor. for now, back to you. >> jon: kevin corke, thank yo thank you. >> i'm not looking at a tax cut now. we don't need it. we have a strong economy. a president obama did that in order to artificially check of the economy. president obama had zero interest for me. i don't have zero interest. i have real interest rates, and i have a strong economy. >> sandra: president trump shooting down a potential tax cut, touting an already strong u.s. economy. here to talk about her,

newt gingrich. good morning to you, mr. speaker. you have sort of gone back and forth. originally, the white house is that they were not considering this, and even came on this program. the white house spokesperson said they are not, then the president the next day so yeah, we're looking at it. so there's a lot of uncertainty about whether they are moving in that direction, but clearly, he is trying to calm concerns about a recession. >> well, i think that the president wavers in part based on the news media coverage. when there was an effort to sort of panic the economy into a recession, the white house went all out with others on tv saying things are fine, don't worry about it. he made a speech. everything is fine. looking at what tools they have. now i think they are pretty well convinced that in fact we are

not going to have a recession in the near future and they don't need any of those tools, so they are sort of putting them back. holding them dominic onto them in case in 2020 or 2021, they need to look at them. the president is a businessman. limited payroll tax cut. it isn't much of a boost. if you get permanent tax cuts, it's a different thing because it changes your behavior. a very short term tax code, frankly, you're just going to spend it. we are getting a much bigger boost out of the oil and gas prices, which are the equivalent of a major tax cut in terms of actual spending power. a lot less money than they could two or three years ago. >> sandra: he also continues to call on the fed to cut interest rates. several times, even, by the end of the year, or at least a couple times. so "the wall street journal" takes us on a piece this

morning. "really interesting piece. where it looks i'm not only the confusion and uncertainty building around whether or not there will be at a payroll tax cut, but also takes on the president on the economy, whether or not we are to see him touting the strong u.s. economy, but he wants is interest rate cuts. but he goes on to say that if the president really wants to give the economy a boost, there is something that he can do without congress, and he can cut his trade uncertainty tax. it makes the case that business investment is suffering because no one knows where he is going next with this trade battle. speaker. >> there is a big difference of opinion about how important it is to deal with china. the president has made a decision that the threat of chinese dishonesty, the threat of the chinese stealing intellectual property, the

threat of the chinese setting up a variety of one-way gains, whether we win or we lose, that is a considerable threat. now, other folks do not think that china is a problem. they would like to use any excuse to get him to back off, which i hope that they won't do. on the other friend, the american economy is probably the single strongest economy in the road right now. we have a higher interest rate than europe does, which means if you are a wealthy person, you are getting out of european bonds, which no pay zero purity removing into american bonds, so we are seeing artificial strength in the dollar. we have a much higher interest rate than europe does, and the president would like to see the federal reserve kind of bring our interest rates down to be more competitive with european interest rates. >> sandra: we have seen the president make that case. that makes our export goods more

effective when we have that strong u.s. dollar. meanwhile, moving on to these two different democratic congresswomen, the president is doubling down when he said this. >> my opinion, the democrats have gotten very far away from israel. i cannot understand how they can do that. they want to take away foreign aid to israel. they want to do a lot of bad things to israel. in my opinion, you vote for democrats, you're being very disloyal to jewish people, and you're being very disloyal to israel. >> sandra: clearly doubling down there. is this a message the president should stay on, speaker? >> i think the general message is right, but he has a tendency to go about 10% too far up your disloyalty has nothing to do with it. it is a matter of judgment. the radicals in the democratic party stand for the elimination of israel as a

country. and i think though that is going to call is ultimately a pretty profound civil war in the democratic party. i get very nervous when we start getting into issues of loyalty and disloyalty. you can have a sincere, honest disagreement and not have it affect whether or not you are loyal. i think what he is saying at a different level is these people are really bad for the future of israel. if you look at what they would do, they basically would eliminate israel as a country. we can have an honest straight up debate as why the democratic party is tolerating a group of people that are deeply anti-israeli and deeply anti-semitic. and we don't have to go to into loyalty about america. these are not people who want to have a sound future for israel. >> sandra: we've got five seconds left. i know that you want people to check out this project. final thoughts on that before we let you go? >> i posted it on fox news.

i think we ought to have a prize -- elon musk endures to this idea. $2 billion, about the cost of one space launch. i think you might see lots of people competing to get to the moon much faster. speak to a lot of folks talking about that. speaker, thank you very much for your time this morning. >> jon: meanwhile, the city of san francisco has one of the highest crime rates in the nation, but don't tell mike now there is a new effort to rebrand -- calling someone a felon could brand them with "a scarlet letter." >> sandra: plus, sean spicer facing backlash for joining the season of "dancing with the stars." and we cannot make this one appeared >> that was a call that they made. my job as a host to the best of my ability is to be switzerland for those two hours a week. for the other 166 hours a week, it is pretty clear where i

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>> he is entitled to his opinion. this should be two hours of politics for you. i hope that what the show is at the end of the season is an example of people of a bunch of different backgrounds getting together, leaving politics aside, and having a good time in a civil, respectful way. my goal is that at the end of the season, tom looks back and says we need more of this, not less of it. >> jon: that his former white house press secretary sean spicer reminding to tom this morning after the "dancing with the stars" host criticized abc's choice to cast spicer on that very famous show. let's bring in charlie hurt, an opinion x for "the washington times," and to my knowledge, has never been on the "dancing with the stars." am i right, charlie? >> yes, i think people would definitely tune in if i were,

but i would be so bad, it would be like watching a train wreck. >> jon: don't you think that's why sean spicer was cast? look at what melissa mccarthy did when she was portraying sean spicer. >> exactly. i don't necessarily disagree with the host, wanting to remove politics from "dancing with the stars" or anything else, for that matter, but my goodness, and this is kind of the conundrum from democrats these days. if you're going to go out and politicize health care, politicize the border, politicize police. if you're going to politicize absolutely everything in american life, you can then turn around and complain well, everything is politicize. well, yeah, because you have this party that is out here talking about how oh, yeah, we shouldn't have a border. all of this crazy stuff that no regular prison actually believes in, but if an effort to score political points by politicizing every aspect of american life.

>> jon: he was on sirius xm radio talking about his thoughts about opposing spicer. he says "my preference would have been --" okay, we do have it as a sound bite. >> my preference would have been to avoid any political lightning rods. i think dancing at its best is an oasis. away from all of the divisiveness, all of the stuff that we are all wrestling with right now. >> i don't know. he wasn't a political figure. he was a spokesman for a political figure. is it all that -- >> this is not sean spicer's fault. sean spicer is not the person that has politicize every aspect of american life, and to sort of pin it all on him as a of ridiculous. but like i said, at the end of the day, i don't disagree with

all of that. i would love to see things depoliticize. the idea that you are a spokesperson for the white house, the idea that that has become such a hyper political position sort of baffles me a little bit. >> jon: in the meantime, i want you to go to san francisco, where the board of supervisors has voted that it is time to sanitize the language that is used when describing people who have had criminal problems. let me give you some of the suggestions. if you wear once upon a time convicted felon, you will now be an offender released from jail. i'm sorry, that's actually still part of the old language. now you become a formerly incarcerated person or a justice involves a person, or a returning resident. what do you think, charlie? >> welcome of this is exactly what we were just talking about here to suffer to politicize

every aspect of life. you know, if you don't want to go around with the felon label, a really good way to not do that is to not commit a felony. but it is absolutely absurd. you go to college campuses today, and students are given a choice is their gender. it's all nuts. it's like the inmates have taken oveover the asylum. >> jon: i'm sure it's going to help cut down on crime problems in san francisco. >> i'm sure. >> jon: charlie hurt, good to talk to you. >> a sniper took out one of our deputies, and the only reason that deputy is alive is because he had his vest on. >> sandra: los angeles police on a massive manhunt as they search for a sniper who opened fire directly in front of the county sheriff's office. we are going to have a live update on the next. plus, a little league coaches passionate postgame speech,

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"it is the position that americans should set their circumstance dominic thermostats to whatever they choose. big brother will let you do what you want. is that okay? >> sandra: what do you set yours to? >> 74, but it never gets there because i have really bad air conditioning. >> sandra: and cold when you sleep, right? opening fire outside of sheriff's office, putting southern california on high alert. no, the manhunt is on. william la jeunesse is live in los angeles. william. >> well, no one in custody, but the good news is that the deputy is going to be fine. the search continues for the deputies who tried to take him out. he prepared to enter his car. now, here is the 911 call that the 21-year-old deputy after

getting hit, asking for help. >> shots from the north. might have got there. >> think about what happened here today. a sniper took out one of our deputies. and the only reason that deputy is alive is because he had his vest on. >> jon: so it happened around 3:00 yesterday in the l.a. suburb of lancaster. the shots coming from a government-subsidized apartment building for recently homeless and the mentally ill. >> thankfully, it was minor. he has been treated. he is doing well. in high spirits. his family is with them, and we expect that he will make a full recovery. >> jon: those who live nearby say that police frequently stop there to get residence under control.

>> i thought it was dangerous. i have children, and i would rather have that person in custody than on the streets. >> jon: the investigation continues, but the investigation says that vest saved his life. back to you. >> sandra: william la jeunesse, thank you. >> jon: democrats, as you may have heard, our slamming president trump is decision. jeh johnson also had problems with the so-called floras agreement, so why is president trump taking so much heat on this? brandon judd is here to react. and new york city being treated to a big military flyover this morning. that is not only spectacular but also historic. ♪

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favorite story of the day. historic airshow taking place right now in new york city. for the first time ever. the blue angels from the navy are performing a flyover with the air force thunderbirds. the f-35 demo team and the royal air force, those four teams will combine, fly over the hudson river, loop around the statue of liberty, and then go soaring over west point. kind of hard to see because they are up there all that always, and they are pretty fast, but wow. what a picture. look outside. >> sandra: this is something that we watch altogether. it's a proud american moment. you as a pilot can understand the coordination it takes for a flyover like that. it is just so impressive. >> jon: they are absolutely the best of the best. the coordination is spectacular. i have been privileged to fly with both the blue angels and the thunderbirds, and those are some of the best moments of my

life. >> sandra: and historic moment. but what if i for so many that live here and that are traveling here to look up and see that. all right, on to this. >> with what we're doing now, it will make it almost impossible for people to come into our country illegally. plus, where building large sections of the wall. we are building large sections of wall, and lots of other -- >> sandra: president trump defending the administration's plan to end of the 20 day limit on detaining my grandchildren. saying children will not be held indefinitely. let's bring in brandon judd, president of the national border patrol council. first off, democrats really slamming this move by the trump administration. nancy pelosi put out a statement of her own. "plain and simple. the end of indefinite and prolonged detention of children

would compound the cruelty and accelerate the heartbreaking humanitarian situation of the border." your response to the reaction? >> i would first like to point out the hypocrisy of the obama administration. they disagreed with the floras ruling. the obama administration understood that by not allowing us to detain people, illegal immigration was going to explode. we also have a senator, saying that they are just looking to make it more difficult for illegal alien children. she was the same person that spoke so glowingly of current acting secretary. so they are now attacking the same people that they supported earlier on. this is the action we have to have to secure our borders to make america safe. we are treating these children

humanely, putting them in the best conditions that we can. the aclu just said that we are dealing children. that's not true. we are putting them in places where they can have recess, health care. very good meals. we are doing everything we can to ensure the well-being of these children, pending their deportation proceedings, and by the way, we are keeping the families together. >> sandra: it's a huge task. emotions run high when discussing these issues involving the children, and you reference back to the obama years, and jeh johnson, the then dhs secretary under the obama administration, this is a flashback to june 2018. to your point, taking issue with the same loophole that president trump is trying to close. here is jeh johnson. >> we expanded family detention, and then we ran into the issue of the flores case. i disagreed then with the ruling in the flores case because i think that our border patrol

needs those tools available to deal with situations like this. >> sandra: so why then is president trump catching all the heat for this? >> this is politics. they use to call president obama the jill porter in chief. they had no problem at that time. they simply want to ensure that they can defeat president trump in 2020, so they're going to disparage him as much as possible in the same policies that they supported during the obama administration. this is politics, and it doesn't help the american public. it doesn't help our country. it doesn't move forward what we need to do to make this country the best country that it can possibly be. >> sandra: final thoughts on another topic. the democratic governor making headlines because he vetoed a bill that required police to cooperate with i.c.e. on illegal immigration. republican lawmakers in that state are going after him, saying that he's favoring the interest of illegal immigrants

over basic public safety. just wanted to get your reaction to that this morning. it's because there are very few things to get my blood boiling more than politicians pandering to special interest, especially when it comes to the safety of their own constituents. how many more people that are in our custody that we failed to turn over to i.c.e. are going to go out and rape children? 11-year-old are going to harm these people here in the country, until we finally take a stand and say the rule of law is what protects us. that is what makes this country that's great country that it is. we have to stand for the rule of law, and our elected politicians have to stand up and do the right thing. >> sandra: brandon judd, thank you for coming on pure democrats reaction to all of that and more coming up. she will be joining us. we will hear from her at the top of a brand-new hour.

>> jon: well, new secretary of defense dealing with threats on many fronts. if they are all aggressive on the world stage, and our own jennifer griffin is speaking exclusively with mark esper. jennifer. >> the new defense secretary talked about the greatest threat that he sees to united states right now. >> you made your first trip to asia as defense secretary. is that because you view china as the greatest national security threat to the united states? >> it is the number one for this country. we think it is a long-term strategic competitor and one that is pursuing maximization campaign, if you will, throughout. whether it is militarily, economically. they are expanding the capacity and capabilities of the military to push the united states out. they studied us in the years,

they have learned about how we deploy weapons, they have learned about our doctrines. >> he hails from uniontown, pennsylvania, the same as george marshall, who went on to become defense secretary as well. he is also related to one of the most storied war reporters. >> your uncle was a renowned ap reporter in vietnam, and i had the privilege of meeting him over there. what will you do to ensure that there are regular press briefings, and that it has been years since the defense secretary had an on camera briefing. >> he was a tremendous journalist. many years of experience. i learned a number of things -- second day on the job. here in the pentagon. secondly, we put out a memo, is stressing the importance of all of our commanders engaging with the media.

>> so the press is not the enemy. >> the press is not the enemy in my book. >> he will hold his first product democrats conference next week. >> jon: jennifer, thank you. >> sandra: bernie sanders planning to double union membership and scrap right to work laws. is that a feasible plan? we are going to get reaction from congressman sean duffy. he will be joining us next. >> jon: plus, bill mark firing back at rashida tlaib yet again. what is fueling their feud? next. >> i mean it's [bleep] purity test. they actually slept through history class. company out there. they give us excellent customer service, every time. our 18 year old was in an accident. usaa took care of her car rental, and getting her car towed. all i had to take care of was making sure that my daughter was ok. if i met another veteran, and they were with another insurance company,

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administration. workers will get a first contract. we will end the so-called right to work laws in iowa and other states around the country. >> jon: that is bernie sanders unveiling his workplace democracy program. aimed at doubling union membership and ending right to work laws. let's bring in congressman sean duffy. what do you think about the senator's plan, congressman? >> well, this is a ploy to win over more union voters. the reality is bernie sanders actually support socialism, and we know that socialism will actually decrease union workers and jobs in their field. president trump has gone to the manufacturing base, by almost a half of a million jobs the last three years. not only that, john,

bernie sanders once medicare for all, and that means that union members who have gold plated health care plans will lose their health care plans and be forced onto our water medicare system, which is way worse than what they have right now. it's a great attempt by bernie sanders, but his plan will not grow unions. it will shrink them and their jobs. and you can thank president trump. >> jon: trying to make it a medicare for all plan, except union members who can keep their own plan. that's the new plan, apparently. >> right. bernie understands that, people like to have a choice. they want to go on to the government plan, that is one thing, but to force any american, whether you are union or not, out of the plane that you like onto a government plan run by bernie sanders, that is not good for the american people. not only that, you know when

members care about freedom of religion. those are all issues that matter, and that is why president trump has miraculously done so well with the rural and blue-collar workers across the country because the president has put america first. trying to renegotiate contracts, and the bottom line is in the shops where these union workers work, their wages have increased by 10% over the last two and a half years, so the results are pretty profound by b6. >> jon: other organizations have looked into his work history. there is no indication -- it could be there somewhere, but there is no indication that bernie sanders has ever been a union worker himself. he was a carpenter, preschool teacher, and he says he was ultimately elected mayor of burlington, vermont, at age 39, but there is no evidence that he was ever a union member. as i matter? >> i think he is more use to

wearing birkenstocks rather than steel-toed boots. he is trying to -- as you can tell, garner that union vote with policy. what he thinks will appeal to them. these are not just one issue voters. especially in the midwest and the rust belt, they have a whole gamut of issues that matter to them, and i think that the socialist, bernie sanders, and the message that is coming from the socialist left will not resonate with the people who live in this part of the country where i am at. wisconsin, michigan, iowa, pennsylvania. >> jon: speaking of that part of the country, i want to bring up a graphic of the six.president trump won in 2016. your state, wisconsin, among them. west virginia as well. hillary clinton and the sort of upper midwest industrial states won illinois. now democrats are trying to change that. they are sending all kinds of

organizing teams -- is not going to put them over the top in the so-called rustbelt? >> i think it is going to be close in wisconsin, but the whole rust belt, president trump has done really well with rural voters and union voters. what is remarkable is that he got 8% of the american vote, and right now his favorable rating is in the high 20s and low 30s. if he gets up to 20% in the selection, i think the game is over in places like wisconsin and michigan, but president trump is a real problem here is suburban women. some of his rhetoric and his tone has turned off traditionally republican voting suburban women who are looking for another candidate. and i think if president trump can keep those women on board, i think he wins reelection through the rust belt, but i think that is going to be a matter of who the democratic candidate is going to be, and do they hate the democratic candidate less than they hate donald trump? i guess that is yet to be

determined, but he has built his base with the republican coalition, as long as he can hold onto those suburban areas. >> jon: congressman sean duffy from wisconsin, we appreciate you being on. >> thanks very much. >> sandra: one of our favorite stories of the day, the little league coaches lifting spirits. >> today, you guys played with the best group of baseball players on the planet. i'm so proud of you guys. your moms, your dad's, okay. ♪ ♪ ♪ applebee's handcrafted burgers now starting at $7.99 now that's eatin' good in the neighborhood. now starting at $7.99 when crabe stronger...strong, with new nicorette coated ice mint. layered with flavor... it's the first and only coated nicotine lozenge.

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going to be successful, all right? for the rest of my life, i am proud you guys can call me coach. there is data. then there's coach. i love you guys. bring it in. >> sandra: what a moment i was. a good coach can lift a team of human in the moment of defeat. that is what you saw with the new jersey coach that did that for the team after they were eliminated from the little league world series. jared, what a moment this was. for many of us who have been watching this, these kids have heart. they go out on the field, and they pour everything that they have into that game, and to hear a coach that cares so much, it really does lift our spirits. >> i hope that that tells any kid that there are great lessons to be learned. elizabeth, new jersey coach. these kids aren't playing for $1 million, and i believe there

my own experience, there is greater value at this stage in life to be learned from a loss in a championship type games and there is from a win. i think back to some of the championships that i got to play, and some of the most poignant lessons came from the losses. you learn from a young age that you are not always going to win. but when you have an inspiring speech like this, there are parents and coaches, we are all one, and then they get down. one, two, three, family. he says help me get out. this is huge. just a great not to how special baseball is. >> sandra: they did an amazing job. they lost to a louisiana team. this is in contrast sort of to this recent study we have been talking a lot about that coaches are more effective when they coach in anger versus inspiration. that worked for me. it looks like that work for the kids. do you have to be angry?

>> you don't. we found that halftime speeches, that that is more effective, but that is only to a point. it is almost like even kids can recognize 170 takes more pleasure being a disciplinarian that a teacher the kid knows it. and i think about dictating voice loses its power when all it does is dictate and yellow. so i would prefer to have a coach like that's been somebody who screams in my face. >> sandra: there will be aal mem ceremony today. 91-year-old holy cross and celtics basketball legend bob kuby will be returning to the white house 30 years after -- >> he was last there with president greg again. he says that he did everything possible, won countless titles with the boston celtics. this certifies it. congratulations to bob koozie.

it is great to see some legends honor there a at the white hous. >> sandra: to good stories. >> jon: well, the numbers are in. we are now learning that the dnc is lagging behind the rnc when it comes to fund-raising. democratic national committee communications director joins us to react to that. and president trump signing an executive order canceling student loan debt for our disabled veterans. robert wilkie respond live next hour. ♪

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>> sandra: fox news alert. now live look inside oxford, mississippi, court room where a student charged with murder is due in court this hour for volunteering. he is accused of fatally shooting wednesday 1-year-old alexandria, a fellow student at the university of mississippi. her body was found in july near a lake. about 30 miles away from campus in oxford. he plans to enter a plea of not guilty. now two of fox news alert, new reaction pouring in on sweeping new immigration rules, closing the catch and release role. welcome to a brand-new hour of "america's newsroom." i'm sandra smith. >> jon: and i'm jon scott, and

for bill hemmer. joe biden blasting the move on twitter, writing "it is cruel and abhorrent to strip my grandchildren of the few protections they have. it is not enough this administration for children in cages without soap and beds, now they want to keep them there indefinitely. this is in who we are." >> i think that they sit around every single day, thinking about new ways to be cruel to these migrants. >> specifically kids will be held literally indefinitely at the pleasure of the trump administration. it's kind of like guantanamo. >> they would rip kids from the bosoms of their mother. >> in just a few moments, we will speak with the nc communications director, xochitl hinojosa, but we begin with peter doocy on the campaign trail. >> good morning, jon.

just as much about president trump's policies as it is joe biden's proposals, and the democratic front runner came here to iowa to warn potential caucus voters that he thinks it he just made it harder to prosecute potential border crossers. >> for example, when families come across, many seeking asylum, many not eligible, they are entitled to a hearing. we found when we do that, letting people not be put behind bars in a cage, family separated, or even held together, that they showed up for the hearings. think about what this president has done. everything about immigration, he has done to try to scare two people. >> the trump administration believes that holding them indefinitely is going to cut down on human trafficking, but democrats are saying it's

illegal. elizabeth warren treats "the floors agreement mandates that they cannot be held in detention for more than 20 days. today, the trump administration announced their plan to put these children in danger. we must fight this." this rule change fits into broader pattern of immigration enforcement. >> they can find billions of dollars for a while that nobody wants, but they can't find the resources, the little bit of money to give kids soap or toothbrushes, or in this case, something like the flu vaccination, which is vital for some kids. it doesn't make any sense except that this president is absolutely determined to carry out maximum cruelty to little children who are brown. >> candidates can't do anything to reverse this rule themselves, but they are telling potential caucus goers to expected to be overturned in court.

jon. >> jon: all right, peter doocy reporting live. >> sandra: let's bring in xochitl hinojosa. good morning to you. >> thanks so much for having me. >> sandra: strong new reaction to the sweeping immigration rules announced this time yesterday. nancy pelosi has made it very clear where she stands. what is the reaction from the dnc this morning? the new rule changes, considering, being very clearly pointed out that under the obama administration, this loophole was taken issue with as well. >> i think this is an escalation, and it is an escalation against children. i agree with all of the presidential candidate that you just show. this is targeting children, pulling them indefinitely. the conditions in these facilities right now, they are not only not getting vaccinations. they don't have toothbrushes or toothpaste. they are in cages. these are the things that we are seeing. donald trump has said before that we need to protect the

children of god when talking about abortion. is the difference because of the color of their skin? is it because these are mexican children? >> sandra: these are all questions to be asked, and obviously a lot of people who take issue with a lot of what you just said, but to go back to the point that this is a loophole that was identified by the obama administration that needed to be addressed. here is just a flashback to 2010, taking issue with the same thing that the president is. >> well, we expanded family detention, and then we ran into the issue of the flores case. i disagreed them with the ruling in the flores case because i think that our immigration enforcement people need those tools available to deal with situations like this. >> sandra: so i know with the president, addressing the same issue, why is he taking so much issue? >> i don't think that you're going to hear the democratic party right now saying that our immigration

system is working because it is not. but obama tried to fix it, we try to pass comprehensive immigration reform, and right now, instead of detaining children and building a wall, we should look at what is happening in our country, see what is happening with his refugees. he should work with congress to actually do something about it. >> sandra: we are already seeing change under the president's policies. this is a foxnews.com piece published this morning. here is the headline. "dividends from policies." the caravans are less frequent, but they still come. agent sabri had to nearly 200 migrants, the second largest group apprehended in august. 40 groups of 100 microns or more. this month, they picked up fewer than five. so, is there actually action being seen at the borders as a result of the president's policy? >> well, crossing has been going

down for quite a while, but i don't think anyone is agreeing that you should detain children indefinitely. i'm sorry. whether you are republican or democrat right now, what is happening in el paso and the targeting of mexicans right now, people should be angry. this is not the america that i want for my children, and this is not the american that i think any american wants for their children. this is inhumane, and these policies have got to stop. this is part of his campaign promise to be hard on immigration, and this is an escalation that targets children. enough is enough, and i think this president really needs to take a hard look in the mirror and finally reform our immigration system and do something about it so that we have humane immigration in this country. >> jon: is an congresses drop to pass a law? he is only supposed to enforce the law passed by congress. secondly, the idea is that they will be held with their

families, not in isolation. >> it is congress' job job, but guess what? donald trump is ahead of the republican party. people might say that he doesn't have a lot of control here. i'm sorry, that is a cop-out. he does have control, and you know what? when it comes to the center, that's his party. he can tell mitch mcconnell bring me an immigration bill. i want to see that on my desk. i am sure nancy pelosi would love to have an immigration bill go on donald trump's desk, but donald trump made a campaign promise, and it is disgusting. >> sandra: obviously, the point of this, and we have the secretaries on this program yesterday, deterring in the future, those families coming through the border illegally. we will move on to what we are saying as far as fund-raising numbers. you represent the dnc here this morning, looking at dnc fund-raising versus the rnc. $7.7 million in july. that number, xochitl, is far

less than what the republicans brought in, looking at nearly $21 million in the month. this is according to new campaign finance disclosures. what does that tell you? >> yeah, i think that whatever you have, the presidency, someone in the white house, that party tends to do better when it comes to raising money. it doesn't necessarily hurt the republican party that they have passed tax cuts for the rich. that is one of the reasons why they passed those tax cuts. at the same time, if you are looking historically at how the democratic party has done with its fund-raising, if you go back and look at 2003, which was the year before -- the july before a presidential year, democrats did not raise as much as they are raising now. we are outpacing -- we are outpacing our fund-raising. the previous year, then we have an -- since 2003, so you know, when it comes to the dnc, and you look at all of the

democratic party and the ecosystem, and our presidential candidates right now are raising money, and that money isn't necessarily going go to donald trump once we have the nominee. all of those fund-raising people are excited about it. >> sandra: closing out with $9 million in cash on hand. >> jon: your presidential candidates are also taking heat from democrat harry reid. he told vice magazine, referring to the medicare for all proposal that has become so popular among the democratic candidates how are you going to get a pass? i think we should focus on improving obamacare. we can do that without bringing in something that would be much harder to sell. and regarding immigration, he says there are so many more important things to do. decriminalizing border crossings is not something that should be at the top of the list. it should be way, way down at the bottom of the list. he's essentially saying that two of the big issues for a fleet of your candidates are all wrong. >> well, i think right now we

are having an important conversation in our party when it comes to health care. the same candidates go across the country. you are seeing this especially the last few debates. my guess is you will see it again in houston where there is a conversation happening about health care. how we are going to expand health care, how we are going to improve on the policies, how we are going to help people, all of those things. we may not agree on how to get there, and there are a lot of proposals on the table, but guess what? that is for primary voters to decide. they will decide on who has the best policy is, how we are helping the lives of the american people, and at the end of the day, everyone wants to expand health care. when it comes to immigration, he understands more than anybody that immigration and immigration reform is needed. in the senate right now. >> sandra: i want to finish up with you, xochitl, by talking

about jill biden on her husband's electability. >> your candidate will be better on health care. but you've got to look at if he is going to win my collections, and maybe you have to say okay, i like that better. but your bottom line is that you have to be a trunk. maybe you have to swallow a little bit, she says, to vote for the president. what did you think of that? >> well, i think she's right that we do have to be donald trump. when it comes to all of these candidates, and you are looking at the toppling candidates to be donald trump in the pull my clear last, so they do want to get rid of this president. >> sandra: go back to specifically what you were saying there. there might be other candidates better on health care, but

joe biden has the best chance of beating president trump, so vote for him. i think her exact words were "you have to swallow a little bit." i personally like so-and-so better, but this is who can beat trumpet. >> this will be up to the voters. we have a few months left until the iowa caucus. we will see who makes the best case and to -- >> sandra: is joe biden your best chance? is he still the best chance? >> that's not my decision. it is up to the voters. i can tell you that our nominee will have the best chance to be donald trump, and we will work day in and day out to get that person elected. >> sandra: who do you think that is going to be at this moment in time? >> i don't know. i'm sure you don't know either. >> jon: some of these far left positions are not going to help your nominee resonate with the american people. >> all the policies right now are in an effort to help the

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>> it is [bleep] purity test by people who want to appear work but actually slept through history class. it's very shallow thinking about the jews in israel are mostly white, and the arabs are brown. >> jon: that' that bill maher fg back at rashida tlaib and ilhan omar. rashida tlaib has called for a boycott of his show. that brings us to our a-team's this morning jessica tarlov, fox news contributor, guy benson

is a political editor for townhall.com. host of "the guy benson show." i find it so ironic, guys, that rashida tlaib is denouncing israel, for trying to silence her voice, but now she wants you boycott belmar because he disagrees with her. >> she likes boycotting. israel, now bill maher. this infighting is interesting. i don't always agree with bill maher, but later in this clip, he talked about the anti-semitic soundings of bds. and that is not just bill maher. at chuck schumer has called bds anti-semitic. nancy pelosi called it "dangerous, bigoted." yet, you have these two members of congress, flag-waving

supporters of bds. it's an extraordinary thing to see, and i think israel is definitely having the stronger side of this debate. speak to david. >> what's really interesting to me is to see charges of anti-semitism against a president whose daughter just became jewish, was converted to judaism. the best friend, according to many -- i just want to step back for a second. look at where america is right now. i don't think america is where either rashida tlaib or bill maher -- it is not as racial and as consumed by the questions of anti-semitism as everybody else's. we have to talk about it because it's interesting. my son-in-law is jewish. my daughter-in-law is african-american. my wife is nicaraguan. i am probably more of a rainbow coalition that most americans, but most are beyond this discussion, this obsession with the race. we saw "the new york times" editorial board talking to each other about how everything is

racism. racism has to be discovered, whether in science or culture. i think america is so far beyond this debate, and politicians just get racked up into her too much. >> jon: let me perhaps bring it back a little bit in this tweet from bill maher. "some people have only one. but here's the thing, the house voted 318-17 to condemn the bds movement, including 93% of democrats. does rashida tlaib want to boycott 98% of her own party? how do you answer that? >> yes, i think she does want to boycott them. this is something that she feels incredibly strongly about. there have been inconsistencies where they were campaigning. they were less forthright about their views on this and then kind of turned around, but united is absolutely correct, but i do agree with him more often then guide us. this is a moment for me as well

as a democrat and as a jewish-american. he is absolutely correct about what bds is and the danger that it poses. i was happy that he highlighted how many jews there are in the democratic party. but to your point about over amplifying racial tensions, we have the president who plays in very dirty racial way by telling women of color to go back to where they came from. we can talk about bill maher, but let's not ignore what the president, talking about dual loyalty, which is a classic anti-semitic truck, something that he never should have spoken about. calling himself the king of israel. >> jon: let us not ignore either the fact that we just have the head of the dnc communications here, bring an element of racism into the discussion of immigration that did not belong there, when she said is that the color of the skin? is that the reason why these people are being locked up in

cages? >> so when you look at -- >> is it a question of the color of skin that led jeh johnson to feed immigrants in cages? >> no, no, no. you do -- >> you don't. >> if there are policies that are specifically targeting certain groups, we don't have a policy -- >> is not targeting people of color. that's not the purpose. >> really? what color are the people in those cages? this is a problem. not the people crossing at the southern border. statistically, it is not. >> sandra: you guys, come back. >> i will take immigration for a second because i thought the interview with the dnc spokesperson was quite interesting on a number of levels. she's sort of shook her finger at the republicans on hypocrisy. you worry about the children of abortion, but not on this. whatever you think about this border policy, they are not calling for the killing of children of the border, which is what the democrats, in terms of

abortion. unfettered tax payment -- >> that's absolutely untrue. i just want to -- it is not about the children, killing of children. abortion after a child has been born? >> i said through all nine months of pregnancy, which is what the democratic party supports. as radical, it's extreme. there are people being killed. >> people being killed? >> do you think a doctor would go in and -- >> it is the ending of a human life. that is not what is happening at the border. >> there are a lot of kids that are dying and border facilities. can they get their flu shots? >> not because we are actively killing them. not caring about children in this context, then bringing abortion into it i think is like a really bad argument. >> jon>> she made a point that e probably didn't intend to make. we should be vaccinating these children for the flu. as on that one of the issues

with unfettered immigration across the border? you have children and adults coming into this country, we have no record of their immunizations, no idea what is going to happen when they get out into the broader public. they have not been vaccinated by and large in those countries, and we don't know that. >> yeah, i think that every person in one of our facilities should have the right to see a doctor, to get their immunizations. they should have soap, cheese brushes. you talk about what they are bringing in, the infestation talks, that is dangerous. that is what the el paso shooter was talking about. >> i think democrats are in a real political bind when it comes to this. they were the one saying there was no crisis at the border when clearly there was a crisis of the border. they were the ones saying you can't separate families. now that the families are being kept together, they are opposed to that. they have a real crisis of identity. are they for catch and release, or are they against catch and

release? >> that is the fundamental problem with all of this outra outrage. if the existing law were to stay in place, and i'm not sure that the president has the power to do what he is trying to do, and you have kids leaving after 20 days, they have -- now this is the cruelest thing together. talking about it like it is guantanamo bay. these families can also leave here they can go back home. they are not being imprisoned there against their will. i just think that there is a lot of -- the situation is broken and complicated. there is a lot of reckless rhetoric coming i think from both sides. >> sandra: it's a huge issue and one that is not going to be solved easily. thanks to our a-team this morning. we will talk about "dancing with the stars" another time. >> i'm sure it will still be a star next week. >> jon: guy benson, david asman, jessica tarlov. thank you.

a search underway for a pair of missing firefighters. how the coast guard is stepping up the effort to try to find them in a critical race against time. >> sandra: plus, the president calling for the cancellation of hundreds of millions of dollars in student loan debt. robert wilkie will be our headliner. he is our guest live this morning to discuss that next. >> altogether, this will wipe out an average of $30,000 in debt or by more than 25,000 eligible veterans, who has made immense sacrifices. the ultimate sacrifice in many ways. for our nation.

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time. >> u.s. coast guard captain same time is of the essence to find those two missing firefighters who disappeared while on a fishing trip. they will lead hundreds of volunteers. now entering its sixth day. phil keating phil keating's live in miami. >> time has been the enemy. even more so today. continuing this morning. the coast guard has indicated that today will likely be decision day. high tech radar and cameras for about eight hours yesterday. jacksonville firefighters, for a fresh set of eyes looking out over the ocean. it has been a massive search and rescue operation, scouring more than 100,000 square miles. the focus has moved north now with the gulfstream, now focusing south carolina.

it is out of savannah, georgia, and charleston. justin walker and brian mclean he departed friday morning. it shows them outside his trunk, backing the boat into the water. since then, the search has grown. >> we don't have a set deadline. the way that we have been working, as we go, one phase at a time, because that is the point where the search really does grow to be untenable. we will have to have a discussion about active search were regular patrol activity. >> confirmed by mccluney's family, the only thing that has been found at all. nothing was found tuesday, nothing wednesday, and nothing overnight. so today, it could be a big decision for the coast guard. both of these firefighters. >> let's hope for some good news. that's a long time. phil keating, thank you.

>> and today, i am proud to announce i'm taking executive action to ensure that our wounded warriors are not saddled with mountains of student debt. in a few moments, i will sign a memorandum directed at the department of education to eliminate every penny of federal student loan debt owed by american veterans who are completely and permanently disabled. [cheers and applause] >> sandra: going to bat for wounded warriors, eliminating student loan debt for our wounded veterans. mr. secretary, good morning to you, and welcome to "america's newsroom." >> thank you for having me. >> sandra: tell us a little bit more about this next up when

it comes to eliminating student loan debt for our disabled veterans. >> let me say that this is another part in the president's program that has moved those who have suffered the most to the front of the line. earlier in the year, last year, we put those who hold the purple heart out the front of the line when it comes to claims and benefits, and this is the second part of the president's effort to take care for those who have done the most, and what this does is it opens for about 25,000 veterans who have been saddled with tremendous student loan debt, but at the same time, they are 100% disabled. and the president is seeking to remedy that so that these folks will not have that burden as they confront their daily struggles. >> jon: are you getting any pushback from anyone in congress on this plan? >> no. and i would be shocked if there was any opposition to what the president has done. >> sandra: to be clear, disabled veterans can already

apply -- i know that the president references this. process. basically trying to streamline the process and make it easier for our disabled veterans. >> absolutely. it was a two-pronged process. going through the department of education. what the president has done is essentially eliminated the process on my end. the only thing we will do is certify to the department of education that they are 100% combat disabled, and that will cut down on the frustrations that many of them have experienced in the last few years. >> jon: he also says he wants to cut down on veteran suicide. 20 veterans per day, which is just an unbelievable number. director of your department, a huge purchase of a drug called -- that is thought to be effective in preventing suicide. it's a nasal spray. but it is also controversial.

where does that stand? >> i can tell you, they have certainly approved our use of spravato. we have been using it under the supervision of anesthesiologist. what we're doing now in transition into the spray, the nasal spray, it is still under the supervision of anesthesiologist, but the fda has approved the combination of other drugs and spravato and it means to combat depression. we are doing everything that we can to address the issues involving depression and mental health. i have said many times that we would not have even have that national conversation on mental health that we so desperately need, and that is not just suicide. that deals with addiction and homelessness as well. >> jon: so the veteran will be able to go till their local va hospital and saints give me this spravato? is that how easy it is?

>> if the team approves the use of the drug. it is in its opening stages when it comes to that combination of drugs that the fda has approved for us, to see if we can make a dent in depression. >> sandra: finally, i want to get your thoughts on this. the fraudsters that have been indicted for this one million-dollar scheme scheme that targeted thousands of eric u.s. service members and veterans, what is the va doing to help them out? >> well, it was a department of defense issue that we were made aware of with the department of justice. they got in through the dod systems and not the names of -- i will say several high-profile veterans. we have been as helpful as we can with the doj's investigation. it is an international scam. i think the original arrests were made in the philippines. what it does tell us is that we need to be on constant guard

with all of our i.t. systems. not just on medical ones, but does not contain the kind of sensitive information, and i want to thank the attorney general for everything he has done to get to the bottom. >> sandra: the u.s. attorney saying "our message is pretty simple. it doesn't matter where you reside on the planet. if you target our veterans, we are coming for you. ">> absolutely. >> sandra: we appreciate your time this morning. >> thank you. thank you both. >> jon: meanwhile, president trump is walking back the idea of a payroll tax code. the talk of the recession is being fueled by his critics. former advisor for president obama joins us to react. >> i have a much stronger economy. if you look at my numbers, you look at november 9th to present, the stock market is up over 50%. at visionworks, we guarantee you'll see great

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>> now, i think they're pretty well convinced of that in fact we are not going to have a recession in the near future, and they don't need any of those new tools, so they are sort of holding onto them in case later on in 2020 or 21, they need to look at them. >> sandra: that was newt gingrich earlier, saying he is no longer pushing for a payroll tax cuts because the economy is on such strong footing. joining us now, the former chair of president obama's global development council. now chief economic advisor. great to have you here. >> thanks for having me here. >> sandra: you did work under president obama. what we are now seeing as far as an economic boom in this country, is it a result of president trump's policies? >> i think most economists would agree that two measures have boosted growth. the tax cuts, and most

importantly, deregulation. that gave incredible momentum, like bringing another engine into a car that allowed us not just to do well, but to do well for the economy. >> sandra: there is a debate over whether or not that is flowing or coming to an end, dipping into the recession. where do you stand on that's going to bed? >> i think it is very hard for us to slip into a recession. making a big policy mistake. like for example we close the government for three months. that would be a big policy mistake. that would really dampen things. or if the market has an accident because -- or thoroughly, and this is the highest risk right now, we talk ourselves into a recession. >> sandra: is that happening? >> i think we are over worrying, and there are indicators that are distorted. coming from the financial world,

they are distorted. you get these alarmist headlines, and people start being cautious. >> jon: all lot of down talking of the u.s. economy and the media. >> i think that's right. i think the media is looking at what is happening in europe and saying we cannot continue to be insulated from significant weakness in the rest of the world. i think that we will certainly import some of this weakness, but not to the extent of sending us into a recession. >> sandra: very interesting. i guess you could make the case that the president has changed his mind on whether or not he is considering the payroll tax cut. first, the white house that now, that was not in their consideration, then we heard that it was. now he is saying that it is not because the economy is so strong. here is the president in his own words. >> i'm not looking out a tax cut

now. we don't need it. certainly a payroll tax cut, president obama did that in order to artificially jacked up the economy. he had zero interest rates. i don't have zero interest rates. i have real interest rates, and despite that, i have a strong economy. >> sandra: again, going back to your experience, how do you respond to that? >> i think most people would agree it's not required. i think a tougher conversation is if it will be one of the desirable things to do. i think you get a lot more bang for your buck from the infrastructure program. why? because it brings in more private sector production. what you want to do right now is liberate the private sector to produce more. we have been -- we need to modernize infrastructure, so if you have to spend physical dollars, i think it is much better to spend them on infrastructure. >> jon: you said that you

don't see a recession coming unless we make a mistake. "the wall street journal" argues that the president is already making a mistake. "cut the trump uncertainties tax, it would be to end his tariff campaign." right to address bad chinese practices, but underestimating the economic harm from the supply chains built over a generation can't be rebuilt in a year. and it goes on from there. what you say to that? >> undoubtedly, if you're just looking at the economic implications, tariffs and trade war, they take momentum out, but this is not bad economics. this is much bigger. this is about national security. this is about leveling the playing field that has been on level for a very long time. >> jon: so you are applauding some of these terrorist? >> i'm saying it is about time to hold a train accountable for intellectual property theft.

the forced transfer of technology. the only thing i would have done differently is bringing india road. they share the same grievances. >> sandra: it was great to have you here. we hope that you come back. >> thank you very much. >> jon: and american accused of killing a hotel worker at a caribbean island resort. he has said he is worried that he won't get a fair trial. we look at where his case stands next.

>> jon: the connecticut banker accused of killing a hotel worker in anguilla is in court today where he is charged with manslaughter. he claims he wasn't acting in self-defense but claims he will not get a fair trial. emily compagno is an attorney and fox news contributor. emily, it is a different justice system than what we are use to. what do you think the hurdles are for hapgood? >> it is different, but only slightly. the largest hurdle here i think, two things. the narrative floating around the island at this moment, and that the burden is on him to prove that it wasn't excessive and that it was reasonable for us. by narrative, i mean that it took over two months for the toxicology report of the murdered individual to come to

light, which is that he was twice the legal limit of alcohol and also had cocaine and marijuana in his system. he is saying there is no way i'm going to get a fair trial and less this narrative is articulating that the guy that attacked me and my room was a family man who would never do this. i need to get a fair shake. that is what his attorneys are facing. >> sandra: what are his options here? he, by the way, says that he would do this all over again to protect his family. what are his options going forward, especially considering he has said that he doesn't think he's going to get a fair trial? >> his attorneys are moving to have everything be via videoconference to protect his safety. he has been threatened there, and they are moving for a change of venue, which i doubt will happen. you are exactly right. his version of the story, although the details inside the hotel room remain opaque, he answered the door, let him in.

he said he trusted him. the man was carrying a knife and set i am here to fix the sink. he said there is not a problem with the sink. it was there that the hotel worker attacked him in front of his 12-year-old and 14-year-old daughter. so according to hapgood, he said i was fearing for my life, and upon entering the room, he found him strutting for the now deceased mitchell, who died later, by the way of blunt force trauma and dissociation while giving a statement at the hospital. so there's a lot of kind of unfinished details that will come to light in trial. but hopefully there is a fair shot. hopefully it is a fair trial. >> jon: but the suppression, i guess, that you would say of those blood test results, seems pretty concerning. it seems like the government there didn't want to release anything that was helpful to hapgood. >> that's the argument of his attorneys. they are saying how are we able to obtain an impartial jury when that narrative is being pushed so strongly on the island and

there is no way that anyone there hasn't heard about the case and haven't heard the narrative that this is a family guy, he would never do it, he was totally sober. they feel like the information isn't being fairly disseminated, and no one was there would not be attainted juror. >> sandra: residing in connecticut. a banker. it is a story about the nation will be watching. thank you very much. emily, great to see you. >> thanks, guys. >> sandra: the dnc sounding off earlier this hour on the sweeping immigration rules. we are going to be live out the white house with brand-new reaction and a brand-new hour of "america's newsroom." .

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hinojosa tore into that decision. >> this is targeting children and holding them indefinitely. the conditions in these facilities right now, they are not only not getting vaccinations, they don't have toothbrushes. they don't have to face. they are in cages. these are the things that are happening to children. donald trump has set before us in the abortion argument that we need to protect the children of god. what about these children? is the difference because of the color of their skin? because these are mexican children? is it because they are coming from other countries instead of detaining children and building up border wall? the president should look at what is happening in our country. he should see what's happening with these refugees, and he should work with congress and actually do something about it. >> jon: so what is the white house thing today? we are there live. >> good morning, jon. we are moving forward with these new regulations that would allow the government to detain

children longer than the current 20 day limit. president trump says that his administration's policy will help deter those who otherwise would make the dangerous journey up to the u.s.-mexico border. >> when they see that you can't get into the united states, or when they see that they do get into the united states, they will be brought back to their country. it won't matter if they get in or not because we are doing that. they won't come. many people will be saved. >> joe biden tweeted "it is cruel and abhorrent to strip migrant children of the few productions out they have. it is not enough that this administration puts it children in cages without soap and beds. now it wants to keep them there indefinitely. this is and who we are." analysts say that this will end up being decided by the courts. jon. >> jon: and the president is continuing his push for lower interest rates? >> that's right. he wants the federal reserve to make it cheaper to borrow money.

the president tweeted "the economy is doing really well. the question is being asked why are we paying more interest in germany then search and other countries? let america win big, rather than just win." historically low interest rates. some conservatives at the time worried that could lead to inflation. the president earlier this week also had floated the idea about payroll tax cut, fending of the social security trust fund. i am not looking at payroll tax cut because this economy is strong, and we don't need it. jon. >> jon: thank you. to speak to a lot more on what is happening with the trump administration, charles payne, the host of "making money," joining us now. so, clearly, rolling back this decision to consider a payroll tax cut, talking about the

booming economy. it so he kind of backtracked on what he earlier said. >> he said they were floating the idea. so i guess he said he didn't want to do it, but i think it is good that they did consider it. listen. we have a very transparent president who likes to have these impromptu conversations with reporters. it is a double-edged sword. we want transparency, but when he shares things with us and then changes his mind or it doesn't go that certain path, it turns into a story that i think sometimes is unfair. if you are the president of the united states, you are thinking every single day how can we boost to the economy? and i don't think that it is necessarily a bad idea. what do we need, as opposed to what do we want? do we need it? do we want to? this may be to get higher growth. it was worth considering. >> sandra: interesting. to some of talk about whether or not we are falling into a

recession. we had mohamed el-erian on last hour. we asked them very directly do you see one coming? here's how he responded. >> i think it will not happen and that's 1 of 3 things happens. a big policy mistake. because markets can contaminate the economy, or thoroughly, and this is the highest risk right now, if we talk ourselves into a recession. >> sandra: that was fascinating to me. he says that the biggest risk to us slipping into a recession is talking us into one? >> who has been saying that? >> me. i have been saying that. he said exactly what i have been coming on tv and very adamantly saying for the last couple of weeks. the biggest risk of recession, and this is why i have been self agree with the media. you have to be very careful with how you report this.

it is one thing -- so i have been saying that this is the biggest issue. it is becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy. >> sandra: there are some red flags. that is your point. there are some economic indicators out there, worth pointing out that however historically indicated a recession, including one that just happened this morning. the yield curve -- >> but that is not. that is not what is actually happening. >> sandra: that is a market indicator. so are all the signs in the economy still pointing to the booming economy? >> i have always said that there are certain issues that have been problematic, and they have been problematic for a while. like housing. we saw mortgage applications go down. despite that a week earlier, sort of hopeful. but why? with mortgage rates at this level, we are seeing these

applications go up. that could be ironically something that helps -- don't want to get too heated. here's what i most concerned about. deflation. we heard from home depot, manufacturing prices are in an absolute free fall. i don't know why this is happening. this is what worries me probably more than anybody is talking about. in addition to the things other people are talking about, the inverted yield curve things, it happened in august of 2005 last time. we went 28 months before a recession. so it goes back to the argument one will ever session happen? we know that it will happen eventually. they said that they have modeled out 2020-2023. here is the irony. that was higher than the estimate from may. >> sandra: "the wall street journal" editorial board tried to take on the economic uncertainty that is

out there. here is their headline. "cut the trump uncertainty tax. his best stimulus, they point out, his best policy would be to end his tariff campaign. they are talking about all the uncertainty was china is what could be the biggest problem. your thoughts? >> i read the piece. i think to a degree it was sort of unfair. talking about layoffs. it and this ironically gets back to the point i was making earlier. the economic purist on the conservative side, they don't like tariffs because consumer prices go up, prices go up. the reason there are layoffs at u.s. steel, it was $900 per net ton. do you know what it was this year? 500. we were told that prices would go through the roof because of these tariffs, not that they would plummet like this. the same thing with lumber. manufacturing prices. i will say this much.

i think president trump has to massage this message a lot better. >> jon: stomach >> sandra: that's a great point. taking on the uncertainty over china. then the uncertainty over the president and talking about the economy overall. "mr. trump is also confused about whether the economy is strong or weak, whether more economic stimulus is needed. no wonder business investment is falling him at this time of uncertainty. that's another indicator that is sort of a red or yellow flag. that is out there. but is it fair to point that out that the president on the one hand is touting a booming economy but also asking to stimulate the economy? >> he is not confused about the strength of the economy appeared in their mind, you don't cut rates unless it's an emergency. in their mind, you don't do payroll tax cuts unless it's an emergency. president trump is saying look at it through my lens. why don't we do these things on

2.5% growth, we can get 4% growth. he is looking at these things historically. maybe we can use them in a different way and not settle for the kind of economy that we have settled for in the last decade. that's where i think it is different. you look at it through your lens, you have to be very careful when you impose that on someone else's thinking. that is where i think the journal is wrong about what president trump is looking at. >> sandra: that's a really interesting perspective, as always. >> i think he has to cool it with the tweets, the changing of direction, and he should skip the september 1st tariff hikes. they reported earnings. the impending tariffs, but that they will be immaterial for the rest of the year. i think from a peer point of

view -- >> sandra: we will see you at 2:00. thank you. >> jon: now, fox news alert, the man charged with the murder of a college student, he is accused of killing ally kostial. it was supposed to be a bond hearing. we have more from atlanta. >> hi, jon. this marks an apparent change in strategy. he arrived at the county courthouse wearing an orange jumpsuit. he has been held without bond since his arrest in connection with the murder of fellow student, allie cos. he is disrespectful to women, a characterization that his legal team has denied. they found her body neared the shore of an on-campus lake. determine that she died from multiple gunshot wounds. up to this point, he has

maintained his innocence and was expected to request reasonable bonds. but the defense announced that after obtaining some new information after meeting with the defendant and his family, they are withdrawing their request for a bond hearing at this time. they requested that the defense and undergo a psychiatric evaluation. the d.a.'s office agreed, and they have granted this. so what this means is that the defendant will remain incarcerated without bond. and at some point he will undergo an evaluation, psychiatric evaluation at mississippi state hospital as the case continues to unfold. >> jon: thank you. >> sandra: the city of san francisco has one of the highest crime rates in the country, but now that same city rebranding how the public refers to its criminals. so, is this political correctness run amok? >> jon: also, president trump

doubling down on his feud with ilhan omar and rashida tlaib over israel. calling them out in a new op-ed. we will ask him about that. >> they are anti-semites. they are against israel. the things that she and others of that group and other democrats have said, and they have become the face of the democratic party. fleshma and swimming pools, public cafes, bars and bistros even pet care services. and there's never been an easier way to get great advice. a place for mom is a free service that pairs you with a local advisor to help you sort through your options and find a perfect place. a place for mom. you know your family we know senior living. together we'll make the right choice.

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families together. okay. you remember that, right? just remember i said it. now it gets even better. president obama and others brought the families apart, but i'm the one that gets the families together. with what we're doing now, we will make it almost impossible for people to come into our country illegally. >> jon: president trump defending those new rules on immigrant detention. and the limits on the detention of my grandchildren, but they would keep families together while they await a court date. let's bring in former doj prosecutor and partner, jim, they are critics out there who are saying that this is cruel. you can't just arrest children and leave them in custody forever. i guess forever -- i'm overdoing it there, but what is the administration supposed to do here? >> they are trying to close a loophole that is pretty big. you have people coming into the

country illegally, and they are not going to have a hearing. the system is overloaded. the debate as to how people separated out, detained, have people cut loose in the united states waiting for a hearing? they are addressing or redressing i should say the flora's agreement, which is from the mid-90s with janet reno. it needs some fixing if it is ever going to work. to speed when you say it was not designed for the reality of today. >> exactly. i'm going to give you kind of a goofy analysis if you don't mi mind. the flores agreement says we are going to micromanage the chick-fil-a, and we are okay with several kids jumping the line. it is not going to the restaurant to a halt, but let's say 100 kids walk into the restaurant, and all of a sudden, there is infrastructure of lummus. we are people going to sit? the supply runs out. that is basically what we are facing.

a model that had micromanagement and very strict limits on what you could do with juveniles who were into tension, but it is just not the model that we are actually living in 2019. >> jon: i want to call your attention to another topic that drew our attention this morning. the city of san francisco board of supervisors there is going to change the way that criminals essentially are referred to. in the past you could call somebody a convicted felon or an offender released from jail, now you have to say they are a formerly incarcerated person or a justice involves person or a returning resident. formerly known as juvenile delinquents are going to be called young person with justice system involvement or a young person impacted by the juvenile justice system. what is this going to do for the folks of san francisco? >> it not a whole lot. just kind of rearranging the deck chairs on the titanic. i am very confused, what are my

cards going to look like if i have to use all of those euphemisms. look at the cost of living, the homelessness problem, the fact that there is an outfit tells you where human waste is. this seems like a real waste of time. however, i will say that if you get into a real issue of reentry, how do we treat prisoners coming back out into society? what resources, what carrots and sticks can we have it to be less of a risk of recidivism and have them be actual members of society? there may be some other thoughts that come in the process that would make sense. >> jon: california has already got a problem with overcrowding. essentially reduces the time that people spend in jail tremendously. >> that is the starting point. the system is broken. serving 17, 18% of your actual sentence. there is really no such thing as truth in sentencing.

people are getting out very quickly. the probation departments are stressed beyond belief, so that whole aspect of having certainty to the sentence about then followed by some opportunity for the prisoner to kind of amend their lives, it is not working very well in california. >> jon: james trusty, thank you. >> sandra: the secretary of defense, discussing the number one priority of four watching the pentagon. why they say china is making a push to move the u.s. also of its global position. plus, new reports and got at least eight prison officials knew jeffrey epstein was not to be left alone, and that their orders were ever in order. we are going to have the details on that as the attorney general weighs in on the investigation. >> we are moving expeditiously, and i think soon we will be in a position to report the results. i will say that as we said before, we have found serious irregularities. who used expedia to book

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♪ >> jon: remarkable new images of the titanic at the bottom of the atlantic, showing the wreckage has significantly deteriorated since the last man's immersive die 14 years ago. explorers are shocked at the cruise liners condition. of course, it has been more than 107 years since the ship sank in 1912, killing more than 1500 people. >> sandra: really just kind of getting swallowed up down there. any news about the titanic we like to look at and talk about. alall right, meanwhile, bill bar rejecting speculation that jeffrey epstein's might not have been a suicide. this as a new report comes out

on the directions given to the prison staffers. rick leventhal is here with more. rick. >> at least eight jail officials knew that he should not have been left alone, but the order was ignored in the last 24 hours leading up to his death. he was being held at the metropolitan correctional facility, awaiting trial on sex trafficking charges i could have kept him in prison for decades. the poster says it wasn't just low-level corrections officers with supervisors and managers who knew epstein was a suicide risk, and there is an investigation to determine why he wasn't more closely watched. the wording of the facility has already been replaced, but william barr says that conspiracy theorists should stand down. >> we have found serious irregularities at the center, but at the same time, i have seen nothing that undercuts the

findings of the medical examiner that this was a suicide. >> two days before hanging himself, he signed his will and it was filed in the virgin islands. a compound that was searched on august 12. some are calling his final act of manipulation, putting his $577 million fortune in a trust, creating legal hurdles that could delay payouts to his victims for years. we are also hearing from supermodel naomi campbell who was seen in pictures with jeffrey epstein and flew at least once on his private jet. she addresses the negative press she is getting. >> what he's done is indefensible, and when i heard of what he had done, it made me sick to my stomach, like everybody else, because i have had my fair share of sexual predators, and thank god i have had my people around me to protect me from this. >> jon: she says she feels are

the victims that are scarred for life for life. >> sandra: all right, rex. rick leventhal, thank you. >> taking a shot. might have got there. the apartment complex. >> jon: that dramatic audio as a sniper opens fire against police in california. now a massive manhunt is underway. the latest on this breaking story in moments. >> sandra: plus, president trump doubling down on his war of words with representatives omar and rashida tlaib. one of the two jewish republican serving in the house joins a live with his reaction to it all. ean freak! it has three times the cleaning power to dissolve kitchen grease on contact. it works great on bathtubs. and even stainless steel. try new clean freak from mr. clean.

>> jon: southern california is on high alert right now after a deputy is wounded. i massive manhunt underway now to track down the shooter. william la jeunesse is live.

>> as of a few minutes ago, no suspect, no motive. but the good news is that this ricky deputy is going to be fine, but the search continues for the sniper who tried to take them out. shot in the parking lot of the sheriff's station as his shift ended and he prepared to take off as best and enter his car. here is a 911 call after getting hurt and requesting help. >> i am hit in the right shoulder. in front of the apartment complex. >> it happened about 3:00 p.m. in lancaster. recently released homeless and the mentally ill. >> why do you put mentally ill people in a four-story apartment across from the sheriff's department? it is indefensible. something has to be done about it. >> swot responded that deputies clear the building.

he is recovering. >> thankfully, the wound was minor. he has been treated. he has been doing well. he is in high spirits. his family is with him, we expect that he will make a full recovery. >> it they regularly have to get residents under control. >> i used to live there, and i thought it was a danger, having somebody overlook a police station. i have children, and i would rather have that person in police custody events on the street. >> of the continues. residents are free to come and go, but detectives have pretty good records and are likely going over surveillance video. but that vest clearly saved his life. >> jon: that is the good news there. william la jeunesse, thank you. >> the democrats have gone very

far away from israel. i cannot understand how they can do that. they don't want to fund is real. they want to take away foreign aid to israel. they want to do a lot of bad things israel. in my opinion, you vote for a democrat, you are being very disloyal to jewish people, and you are being very disloyal to israel. >> sandra: president trump they are not backing off of his criticism, and doubling down on his criticism of jewish voters on the democratic party. joining us now, serving on the house foreign affairs committee and is one of only two jewish republicans in the house. congressman, good morning to you. what did you think of the president's message there? >> welcome of the president is being accused of anti-semitism, which is crazy. he has shown so much love and support for jews in the u.s.-israel relationship. he has secured victories for

that relationship, aligning the u.s. and israel. he wants more people to vote for him next november after he spent an entire term fighting for all of these wins. they here are promises that were made that others never follow through on, so whether it is moving the embassy to jerusalem, recognizing israeli's sovereignty, beating anti-semitism here at home and abroad, and that list goes on, he has focused throughout his entire first term in office towards these very important priorities for many employment jews and non-jews in this country. >> sandra: "in my opinion, if you vote for a democrat, you are being this loyal to jewish people." do you agree with his message that? >> there is a long history with regards to that charm, loyalty

or disloyalty, where others with bad intent, hatred towards israel and the jews, going back to whether it is hitler, or there has been an issue with the use of that word. the president, who i said, approaching this from a very different standpoint, he chose to use a word that i wouldn't use in a particular context. is being accused of anti-semitism, which is just so not true, when the definition of anti-semitism requires hatred towards jews, and he has shown that he has none of it. his grandchildren, his daughter, his son-in-law are jewish, and all of those policymakers. meanwhile, on the other side, the folks going after him, they have silenced others. rashida tlaib and ilhan omar providing cover for it, and that

hypocrisy is part of the fallout as well. >> sandra: ila and omar responded yesterday saying "we got elected by the people to do the work of the people and cannot be defeated by smears or attacks." an image clearly indicating that she is moving on. newt gingrich was with us earlier on. we asked him too about the messaging with the congresswoman. >> i think the general message is right, but he has a tendency to go about 10% too far. it is a matter of judgment. i think it is fair to say about the radicals in the democratic party stand for the elimination of israel as a country. that is going to cause a pretty profound civil war in the democratic party. >> sandra: that was the former speaker at the top of our 9:00 hour. you wrote a piece published on foxnews.com.

"they stay silent on palestinian authority." you write that they attack israel while remaining silent on hamas, using women and children as human shields, denying humanitarian aid to their own country. launching rockets into israel that kills human civilians. finally, your point in that piece published on foxnews.co foxnews.com. >> and rashida tlaib was on the floor of the house of representatives comparing boycotting israel to boycotting nazi germany. they are constantly on the attack. both of them, and they never call out anything with regards to hamas, which is a designated foreign terrorist organization, hezbollah, and people to incite violence. leadership of the house democrats, they have been really called it out by name. passing a resolution that was in

all of the matters, and they even appointed omar to the foreign affairs committee. meanwhile, what's trending on twitter this morning. an editor from "the new york times," who is scrubbing his account. because he was self describing himself as an anti-semite, and she was going after jews and others. members of congress who feel this way, others providing cover in congress, and other members of the media. there is a lot of discussing hypocrisy and double standards, and as i pointed out, you should be fired. but "the new york times" never said anything about it. the house democrats should remove omar from the house foreign affairs committee, but they do nothing about it, so that is what is frustrating a lot of us who want to see everything called accurately and evenly. there is a lot going on here. >> sandra: congressman, we appreciate your time here this

morning. >> thank you. >> jon: get this. the bureau of land management is heading west. the trump administration plans to move the headquarters from washington, d.c.,'s to grand junction, colorado, making good on one of president trump's campaign promises. we are following this from denver. >>hi, the trump administration says that this make sense because 99% of the bureau done my glands that they maintain is west of the mississippi river, but critics are accusing them of conducting a brain drain. announcing their agencies are moving leadership and researchers to the middle of the country. kansas and missouri. grand junction, colorado. 27 people will need to move from blm headquarters to colorado city. more than 200 other staffers must move to a dozen other states. lawmakers on other sides of the aisle and some environmentalist groups are questioning the move. they say that they hope to drag it out past the presidential

election. opponents are accusing the administration of trying to get rid of experts that argue with the present. >> by telling them you have one month to decide whether you are going to quit or force your family to pack up and go, leave everything behind, leave their schools behind, the spouse's job, the only reason to do that in this way is because you want those folks to quit. >> colorado senator who pushed for this says this should not be about politics. >> i think she will oppose this idea simply because it is something that this administration has done, that is not a good enough reason. we will have better land management decisions. that is what it is all about. when the people who live in these communities that they are affecting the most. >> most folks may not even realize that they already have a lot of folks working in offices all over the country. >> alicia acuna is in denver,

thank you. >> sandra: issuing a stern warning, the prospects for nuclear diplomacy between washington and pyongyang now dead? >> trust kim jong un? >> no. this is one of these things where you have to have a verifiable agreement in place if you live with diabetes,

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speak to the celtics point guard bob cousy will be honored with our nation's highest civilian honor, the presidential medal of freedom. he was a 13 time all-star, winning championships with boston. he spoke with fox nation about the legendary celtics run and how his fans still love him to this day. >> hey, he once had like 152. and the people are laying it off

of the tables, clicking self he is. really meaningful. i chewed up. i don't know why. we were a bunch of old jocks. but that was meaning to all of us, i think. >> sandra: new york native, he will be the fourth nba player to receive the honor. he is 91 years old. in the 1940s, he went to attend the college of the holy cross, won a national championship with the crusaders. he played with the boston celtics from 1950 on and had a wonderful career. >> jon: what a great career. congratulations to him. >> sandra: good stuff. >> jon: pyongyang issuing a warning to the united states, threatening to call off all denuclearization talks, should the u.s. continue what north korea calls "hostile military moves." we bring an center for the national interest, harry kazianis. what happened to that handshake out the dmz? >> hey, john, it's a heck of a

question. i think right now, you look at this from kim jong un's eyes, i think that there are two reasons that right now the talks are dead. first reason i would say is most likely that the u.s.-china issue right now, impacting all of us in different ways, it is making the north koreans really question their participation in talking with the united states. they know that the chinese are not going to enforce the maximum pressure campaign, and knowing that their exports go through china, china is going to destroy that campaign. second reason i would offer to you is that they are probably looking at the u.s. presidential election, thinking that if donald trump does not win, where they kill any deal question mike i think we are going to be stuck in limbo for a little while. >> jon: are we going to continue to see if the missile testing that has so concerns the united states? >> i do think that we will see more missile testing. i do not think that kim jong un would be foolish enough to break

his word to donald trump and start testing missiles that could hit the u.s. homeland, but i do think that kim is going to keep testing short-range missiles and may even go to medium-range missiles which is a threat to japan, south korea, and obviously a lot of our military. >> jon: right, those are the ones i make those countries in particular quite nervous. >> exactly. >> jon: in the meantime, there is a report out of the university of sydney about some capabilities of the chinese have, which is very concerning. >> yes, jon. this report is just terrific, to be honest with you. what the university of sydney have found is that all of their ballistic capabilities, that within about an hour, if they launched what would be a pearl harbor type strike, launching hundreds of thousands of missiles at u.s. bases across the asia pacific, they obliterate most of our military and asia. this is something that the trump administration is working on and

something that they really have to clean up from the obama administration who quite frankly did not push back on china, whether it was in the south china sea, or pushing on taiwan. so the trump administration i think is aware of this, but the report, nonetheless, is very disturbing. >> jon: china is their top priority. >> china is the number one priority for this department. it is outlined in the national defense g. we think it is a long-term strategic, the maximization, they studied us, they learned about how to employ weapons, learned about our doctrine, and i've been learning. so that is something that we want to watch very carefully. >> jon: it has long been said that there are a lot of chinese military leaders that have never experienced war, and they are itching to have one. >> there are a lot of rumors.

one comment that, for example, jon, made the comment that settling the south china sea dispute, maybe they should think about thinking u.s. aircraft carriers. that is actually a very dangerous threat. the chinese have developed actually carriers that would be able to do that so i give the trump administration a lot of credit. i think they have done a great job thinking about in making it top priority. >> jon: harry kazianis, thank you. >> thank you. >> sandra: their routine dental procedure that could be leading some patients to be addicted to opioids. hey! i'm bill slowsky jr.,

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>> sandra: and a new red flag oon the opiate crisis, experts warning that dentists are

writing millions of prescriptions for the painkillers following surgery to remove wisdom teeth. many of the patients, young adults or teenagers even. dr. marc siegel, nyu medical facility it. this is a painful procedure but very, very common. our doctors writing too many prescriptions? >> absolutely. this is so under the radar. we haven't talked about this yet. according to the american dental association, 18 million prescriptions were written the following wisdom teeth removal last year alone, most of them going to people under the age of 25, who have a higher risk of addiction. a study from 2016 from drug and alcohol dependence shows that 100 million percocet or pills, other opiate pills ended up in people's medicine cabinet following the dental procedures. you know what happens to pills that are in medicine cabinets

unused? people who don't need them take them. that is where all the drug addiction comes from. 100 million pills not used every year after dental procedures. >> sandra: you are not suggesting that doctors shouldn't be prescribing these painkillers following such procedures, but that there needs to be some sort of warning about possible addiction? >> sandra, very well said. i think that you go to uphill after wisdom teeth, it should be ibuprofen. occasionally you might need opiates, but the real question is how many days worth to you give? because we are taught now -- there are teaching positions now that the longer your exposure to opioids, the greater your chance of addiction. don't give them a week or two prescription. one or two days, three or four days. a lot of my patients tell me i had my wisdom teeth out, i have only used ibuprofen. he wrote a mountain bike up the

mountain after his -- >> sandra: that's jon scott. >> not everyone is jon scott, but it is overused, we are giving them too many days. it is ending up in medicine cabinets. >> sandra: statistics on opiate prescriptions, 21-29% roughly presented them i could miss using them. prescribed for chronic pain developed, some sort of a disorder with them. they were huge risks involved, doctor. >> center, until the age of 25, you could be prescribing someone a lifelong abuse problem. how is that for a doctor? >> sandra: there are multiple stories out there. the story in front of me suggesting that a teenager when ten, wasn't warned about it, took too many, and it led eventually to heroin usage. >> absolutely. very, very common. some people in chronic pain need opioids. >> sandra: dr. marc siegel, thank you. >> jon: the war of words

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>> sandra: speech we've never rw what's going happen is less seconds. jon, any parting words? >> jon: lovely to spend a week with you. i'll be back tomorrow! >> sandra: i will see you tonight. i'm joining the gang on "the five." >> jon: will be watching! >> sandra: we will see you tomorrow morning. "outnumbered" starts now. >> melissa: fox news alert, strong reactions from both sides amidst the growing feud between president trump and democratic squad members ilhan omar and rashida tlaib. as the president is pushing back over his criticism of jewish democrats for standing with the party after the congresswomen condemned israel. now house speaker nancy pelosi is entering the fray. this is "outnumbered" and i'm

melissa francis. here today, post of "the evening edit" on fox business, elizabeth macdonald. fox news contributor, dr. nicole saphier. former ohio senate democratic minority leader, capri cafaro. jennings on the couch, david avella, gopac cha