panel. great job in new york and washington. getting all that -- shannon bream and the "fox news @ night" team take it all from here live in detroit. coverage of the second round of democratic presidential debate, i'm live in detroit again tonight. can difference candidates facing off tonight, 10 different candidates. last night showed rad kl differences. tonight the highly anticipated rematch of former vice president joe biden and california senator kamala harris. now, unfortunately, for the former v.p. she wasn't the only one taking direct aim, biden faced attackses on immigration to criminal justice reform. we have fox team coverage tonight on spin room duty again. we start with kristin fisher for

a look at tonight's highlights. >> joe by ken defended himself more forcefully than during the first debate but struggled to effectively attack one have his biggest competitors, greatest weaknesses. kamala harris' record as attorney general of california. he was more effective in attacking her healthcare plan but harris had a response ready. >> the senator has had several plans so far. any time some one tells you you're going to get something good in ten years you wonder why it takes ten years. you can't beat president trump with double talk on this plan. >> your plan does not cover everyone in america. in 2019 in america, for a democrat to be running for president, with a plan that does not cover everyone is without excuse. >> and it wasn't just harris going after the frontrunner for being out of touch. almost over they are candidate did as well. listen to this exchange between

biden and julian castro over the issue of decriminalizing illegal border crossings. >> if you cross the border illegally, you should be able to be sent back, it's a crime. >> one of us has learned the less ochblgt past and one of us hasn't. >> we need policies that can have guts on this issue. >> i have guts enough to say this plan doesn't make sense. >> one of biden's best defenses came when kirsten gillibrand attacked his record on women. listen. >> what did you mean when you said when a woman works the outside the home it's resulting in, quote, deet tierration of family. >> this p the beginning my deceased wife worked, my present wife has worked raising children. you came to syracuse university with me and said it was one thing i'm passionate about the concern, making sure women are treated equally. i don't know what happened but you're running for president.

>> plenty of other crossfire. tulsi gabbard made an effective argument attacking kamala harris' record as attorney general of california saying that she's not the progressive prosecutor she claims to be. >> in the case much those on death row, innocent people, you actually blocked effort from being revealed that would have freed them. so were you forced -- until you were forced to do so. there's no excuse to do that and the people who suffered under your reign as prosecutor you owe them an apology. >> my entire could rear i have been personally opposed to the death penalty. that's my background, my work. i am proud of it. >> gabbard's argument was the argument that biden tried but struggled to make. the question is did the former vice president do enough tonight to convince voters, convince those democratic primary voters he's ready to go toe-to-toe against president trump.

shannon? >> shannon: well questions about that on the stage tonight. kristen, we will have actually is dpab bard with us shortly later in the hour. thank you for the wrapup. chief political anchor, the anchor of special report, bret baier, for his key moments of the night. brett, another eventful night and a lot of times for the vice president in the crosshairs. what stood out to you? >> you're right, good evening, shannon. joe biden was under attack for a 4r0689 time. this started with a handshake, with kamala harris when she came on stage. he said the microphones were on, go easy on me, kid. she did not. really neither did anyone else. bill deblasio went after vice president biden on deportations under the obama administration. finally ended up that the vice president said he wasn't going to say what he told president obama sort of blaming president obama for deet importanttations even though most other times he claims president owe bam and says his

name again and again and again to link with him. i had three different moments shannon. and i think some one who had a good night tonight was cory booker. he attacked vice president we biden a number of different times. specifically on criminal justice reform and his record. >> the person that's enjoying this debate most right now is donald trump as we pit democrats against each other i was raised by civil rights parents who said always keep your eyes on the prize. mr. vice president you can't have it both ways, inskroek president obama, you can't do it when it's convenient and dodge it when it's not. >> if you want to compare records and i'm shocked that you do, i'm happy to do that. all of the problems that he is talking about, that he created, you're drinking the koolaid and you don't even know the flavor. >> koolaid came out with a tweet say being know the flavor. but cory booker had a really good night, a strong night, for

him and was the joe biden antagonist. second moment, tulsi gabbard had a strong night, attacking kamala harris but other moments where she talked about pulling u.s. troops home. >> this is not about arbitrary deadlines, this is about leadership, the leadership i will bring to do the right thing to bring our troops home within the first year in office. they shouldn't have been there this long. for too long we have had leaders who have been arbitrating foreign policy from ivory towers in washington. without any idea about thest could and the consequence, the toll that it takes on our service members. we have to do the right thing. and end these wasteful e regime wars and bring our people home. >> we saw the battle between the progressives and the more centrist last night.

i think senator michael ben it from colorado played the role of john delaney or governor bullock from last night but nod had an impassioned moment. key moment for him, talking about schools and race. >> this is the fourth debate that we have had and the second time we have been debating what people did 50 years ago with bussing. when our schools are as segregated today as they were 50 years ago. we need a conversation about what is happening now. and when there's a group of kids in the country that don't get preschool through no fault of their own and another group does, equal isn't equal. we have a group of k-12 schools that are good, families can spend a million bucks. and you have the detroit public schools, segregated as they were, equal is not equal. >> education a big issue for him. ran the school system in colorado. if biden, shannon, falls down it

is possible that some one like michael ben it could rise up in a flight for safety for one of the sentist or moderate choices. my final point is that last night we had the most searched member of the stage beak maryanne williamson. i think you will see andrew yang get a bunch of searchs tonight. he has a lot of donors, a lot of attention. but he was concise, focused, personal. i would expect that he's going to make that third debate stage. shannon? >> shannon: and he made a plea for that, as they all did tonight. he's one that talked about universal basic income for everyone and tried to talk about that in the context of michigan and you a automation that's making away a lot of jobs and he fears that's going to go across all of american industry. yeah, a breakout night for him, we've seen cory booker and others doing well as well. bret thanks for being with us

for special analysis. >> you bet. >> shannon: okay, from the green new deal for medicare for all, take listen to what america would look like under these democratic candidates. >> we need to be honest about what's in the plan. it bans employer based insurance and taxes the middle class. >> you cannot keep with the republican talking points on this. you have to stop. >> everything must be subly mated to the challenge and the crisis that is existential, dealing with the climate threat. >> there will still be consequences if some one crosses the border, it's a civil action. >> shannon: tonight in contrast to the america we see right now. it's in contrast there from what we've heard from the candidates tonight versus what we've seen under the policies of president trump. now under president trump. let's bring in the house minority leader from california,

kevin mccarthy. he will be standing by, we don't have him yet. but let's go to peter doocy checking in with the candidates getting the readout of everybody seeing how they did tonight. peter what is the latest? >> well, shannon the latest is in the spin room, not far away from where you are, it's cozy today. there seems to be a lot more interest among the members of the international traveling press in the candidates debating tonight. forgive me for look around, i'm trying to figure out where these candidates are. i'm actually going to use my long arm here to try and reach in and get a question in for secretary castro. i'll trade places -- are you coming out? i'm going to trade places with this gentleman. get a little closer, excuse me. >> we're only going to do that if we speak to the issues people, of families who have been suffering because of police

violence, of the people in puerto rico, they wonder whether those of us up there on that stage care about the fact they had to get out there in the streets and protest a corrupt administration, are we going to maybe sure if they cover recover from hurricane maria we support them. i want to make sure that we bring in everybody into this debate. >> secretary castro, we're live, secretary -- >> you were talking about vice president biden, the obama legacy, you challenged him, you said you haven't evolved. talk about what went through, because you're saying that you've vol vd from the obama immigration legacy and the vice president hasn't. why did you have to say that? >> i said that i've learned the lessons of the past. we have to acknowledge that trump is so much worse on this issue. >> shannon, okay, we are going to continue reaching in to find some candidates who just left the stage, and we will bring you back whatever we get.

>> shannon: peter doocy, good you are as tall as are you, you can see over the crowd see, the hot spots. we'll check back as soon as you corner another candidate. now the house minority leader republican congressman from california kevin mccarthy for reaction. its oh great to have you with us, mr. leader. i want to ask you to react, and peter was just there, with former secretary julian castro, pointing the fingers at congress on the issue of immigration and said there are things in the law that need to be changed to do things like stopping family separations. continually pointed at lawmakers and said a lot has to be cleaned up by you guys but you aren't willing to do it. how do you respond? >> well, it's correct that congress needs to fix the law but it's not the republicans' fault, it's the democrats who haven't done anything, denying there's a crisis. you listen to the debate, the person that was attackedted most wasn't there, former president obama.

think about what the people said, shows that the democratic party is the socialist democratic party. they all claim open borders, it's in longer illegal to cross illegally into america. they want to guarantee an income for those who are able to work but are just unwilling. interesting part, if there's one person who won the night, i'd give to it tulsi. kamala harris didn't see it coming. she thought she was always on the offensive but she got on the defensive. i don't think joe biden survives there. because -- survives this, the attacks on the former president, even from his own cabinet member castro. >> shannon: he did get certainly a lot of applause here, but he was clearly the target of those standing on the stage tonight. we talked about in the first debate how there was such fighting in the center, by snar harris, seemed like tonight everyone else wanted to get in on the game maybe with the

exception of congresswoman gabbard, she'll be our guest m a few minutes. you mention socialism, it's something that pete buttigieg brought up on night one last night, he said no matter what we propose from the stage whether it lanes left or right, the democrats -- the republicans in the white house and this report going to try to call us social interests whether it's accurate or not, it scares voters out there. how do you respond to him? >> well, listen to the policies. they're for open border, they're for taking away any private health insurance so you can only have it from government, they want to guarantee an income even if you're able to work but unwilling to work. that is the prime definition for socialism. the green new deal, dictating from your house whether we can have a dairy, whether you can fly. remember castro, remember what castro was saying there, all of them agreed, they ee for an open border. this is socialism at its best.

the interesting part, remember, there's the latest poll out there for the most requested endorsement for the democrat performance, democratic. the number one after that is aoc. and aoc calls herself a socialist democrat. that's why this party has passed joe biden by and the socialism continues to rise and taken over the party. before we left the house the speaker nancy pelosi surrendered to the social interest wing of the party. >> shannon: we saw a heated discussion back and forth between the various candidates on the stage about whether the border would be handled in civil court or civil court. but the one thing that cory booker tried to warn about, going back to the idea that the person loving the debates tonight the most was the president because they are dividing and conquering and hoping to sort out a vision. the roeflt debate, republican or democrat, is to look for the differences in the candidates tonight. do you see those areas of

differences or do you think they're monday on lethic in trying to move to the left? >> they're guaranteed moving further to the left. i'm not sure if cory understands what a debate is, you debate ideas. there was a common deno nay for, they believe in the open border, necessity believe in guaranteed income. in the places where they're going want government to be the answer for all of their problems. and they have moved so far to the left, i'm not sure they can bring all of the old democrats with them. that's why i don't think joe biden survives. think about the turmoil in the last week. nancy pelosi surrendering to the socialism, you watch two debates that only talked about socialism, and you watch the arm of the democratic campaign committee five the top five people. they're in a spiral down, not knowing where to end up. >> shannon: well, we'll see, because so far the polling is

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>> we walk up here with makeup on our faces and rehearsed attacked lines playing roles in the reality tv show. one reason why we elected a reality tv star as our president. >> shannon: andrew yang questioning the idea of the primary debates. two days now, nearly six hours

and 20 candidates later. let's get a final checkup of the performance of the moderators tonight from howard. your take? >> the moderators didn't have to work as hard as last night, these democrats came ready to rumble. the heated debate it was heated for much of the night turned on the kouchbter punching and personal attacks. the moderators made a decision to give a lot of time to joe biden and kamala harris to continue the slugfest, saw a much more energized and prepared joe biden. that was the right decision, they are the top two contenders on the stage. here's dana bash with pointed questions for senator harris and the former v.p. >> vice president biden's campaign calls your plan, quote, a have it every which way approach and says it's just part of a confusing pattern of equivocating about your medical stance. >> he said in the past democrats

who want to deep keep the private insurance industry are defending a healthcare system that is not working. >> it was sorts of like waving a red flag, then the bulls came charging, then they took each other on, what you want to see the debate, shouldn't be just the moderator's questions. >> shannon: and they talked about immigration among other things, healthcare the big first focus. they got into issues of bussing and racism, and the economy. they covered a lot of ground tonight. >> yeah, some of the questioning came from the liberal opinion host, don lemmon, who was ripped on twitter by president trump called him dumb as a rock last night when he called the president a bigot. lemmon was more kaushgs in his racial receipt toric, he referred to the president's racist tweets on baltimore. he asked kamala harris about immigration and whether she was for open borders, take a look. >> you have indicated that you don't think it should be a

criminal offense punishable by jail to cross the border illegally. hour do you respond to senator bennett s. >> after the last debate i went to a place in florida called homestead. and there is a private detention facility being paid for by your taxpayer dollars. >> kamala harris ignoring the question, never responded to the question. lemmon didn't follow up. this is where a moderator has to say senator, governor, vice president, you didn't answer the question and ask it again. >> shannon: yeah, it gets tricky, there were several questions, seem like no matter last night, even with the followup questions, to sometimes saying we didn't answer what we asked you. it seems like there was a lot of that tonight. a really good candidate can fake any question and turn it into an -- can take any question and turn night the answer they want to give. who du think did the best of that, we saw it with senator harris but all of them seem to take a swipe at doing that if

there's a question they don't want to answer. >> politicians are practiced at. that joe biden had a far better night than last night. kamala harris was on the defensive at times, not just when biden would point out things about her record. but as we saw earlier, tulsi gabbard doing that as well. and the whole second hour was like everyone brought out the bazookas and fieshing off the oppo research. biden defending his long record, questioning cory book where he was mayor of newark. others questioned kamala harris, kirsten gillibrand pulling out an old op ed when biden raised questions about women working outside of the house. he said i was a sing fall they are for five years after my first wife died. they were well prepared, made for good tv, not as much of a wonky seminar like last night. but people like to see the candidates mix it up. hard to follow the details when the charges and counter charges are flying but people got a

sense of the contenders. >> shannon: yeah, and as you noted a lot more personal stories and anecdotes tonight. howard, appreciate your time. >> thank you. >> shannon: breaking tonight, the son of the heir to al qaeda confirmed dead, what we are learning tonight. congress woman tulsi gabbard joins me in the spin room, next. declared dead. we

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>> shannon: live from the spin room in detroit, special coverage of round two of the democratic primary debates, peter doocy is talking to some one you may recognize, peter? >> shannon, somebody we normally see in the basement of the

russell senate office building, senator kuntz, a surrogate for the vice president. >> i'm a friend of his, he had a good night. there were 10 candidates on that stage and i think 7 or 8 of them were literally attacking him n the dead center of the stage, in the center of the fire and he demonstrated he's fully capable of pushing back. i look nord to sees him on the debate stage with president trump, it will be an engaging conversation. >> did you think that any of the attacks were disingenuous, were they too calculated or was it a fair critique or fair question of hills record? >> what i think joe showed tonight, is that while he has said since he got into the campaign, that democrats attacking each they are on the debate stage is not constructive, in miami he was genuinely surprised that some of these made an attack that

mischaracterized his record and his values. when that happens he'll push back and he did so tonight. folks trying to miscast or twist or mischaracterize his record that dus reentd flekt his values he pushed back. >> and the question, joe biden at one point, seemed to try to distance himself from the obama administration deportation policy. is it a mistake to do anything to try to get away from the obama administration? >> i know that joe is proud of his eight years as vice president. look, this is a job interview for who we're going to choose as the next president of the united states. out of 44 years as you be service, his 8 years as vice president is in some ways most important. >> sorry, it's live television, that's -- we have another candidate, senator gillibrand. you were taking a little bit of heat on social media. thank you senator kuntz.

you had heat on social media for your questioning of joe biden's record. would you have done anything differently? >> no, i think the starkness of his statements that affordable daycare would lead to the deterioration of the family, and that was avoiding responsibilities, these are quotes from something he wrote, i just wanted to know if he still believed that. if he believed it then, what he meant. because the truth is, my mother worked outside the home, my grandmother worked outside the home, i'm a working mom, not only primary caregiver, but proi mary wage earner, i needed good affordable daycare when way was a member of congress, couldn't have done my job with it. we have a mysogynist in the white house, particularly women of color. we saw in 2018 that the american women were on fire. they came out in record numbers

to vote, they ran in record numbers and won. our nominee needs to not only inspire women but need to know the nominee has their back. wanted him to explain whether he still believes it or what he meant then. he said he didn't. >> he is the undeniable front runner, just quickly do you think he will be as strong a frontrunner for your party after tonight? >> i think i had opportunity to share my vision for america, such a different record than anyone else. not only do i win in the red places and the blue places in my state but i bring people together, legislatively and electorally. my broken prom is bus tour was that, showing how i'll pete trump, go into areas where he won that, he lied to them about things they need, no bad trade deals and lower prescription drug prices. i wanteded to show people

tonight how i would beat president trump. >> thank you, senator gillibrand, shannon back to you. >> shannon: peter doocy, we have lot of activity here. limit's go now, we've been talking about how the candidates went after joe biden, let's show you what we were talking about. >> will not be taken to task by senator biden or senator bennett's plans. >> what he's saying is inaccurate. >> i don't know what math you're doing in new york. >> one of us has learned the lessons of the past and womp of us hasn't. >> if you cross the border illegally it's a crime. >> i didn't hear your response when the issue came up of the deportations. you need to answer the tough questions. >> i keep my recommendation in private. >> what vice president, um, authored in '94 was a mistake. >> shannon: and always unpredictable, nights like this in the spin room following the debate.

we have congressman tulsi gabbard with us, great to have you on fox news at night again. >> thank you. >> shannon: the google search showing you are once again one of the most search -- if not the biggest name tonight. i know you have some problems that you are contesting google did not treat you fairly after the last debate. >> yes. >> shannon: tell us about that. >> in the first debt bait it was on the first night, i was the most searched candidate of that event. google chose to arbitrarily block our google ads account when it was the most critical for our campaign. i'm suing google. they provided no valid explanation, no wrongdoing or problem on our part. not because of me but because of this monopoly, this power that these big tech monopolies have to shut out people arbitrarily. this is a threat to our freedom of speech and important for us all to stand united in calling out and protect. because whether you're a

democrat or republican or on the left or the right, for a big tech monopoly to have this pow they are affects all of us. >> shannon: we've heard from the conservative groups that say there are other social media outlets that don't treat them fairly. sounds like you're making the same assertion. >> i am, i am. i think one of the problems we're seeing is that people seem to feel like this is a left-right issue rather signing it for what it is, a free speech issue, how dangerous that you have these big tech monopolies, google and facebook, they have the power through the things they choose to do and people they should out to influence our fair elections. this is what is at the heart of the action i'm taking and taking on it behalf of the american people. >> shannon: something that both sides are worried about, we will continue to track. that i know you won't have much timeings watt to get to a couple of important things. you said tonight, not like you didn't get to finish your

answer, but you made an accurate that president trump is in some way supporting al qaeda. is that in connection with the partnership with saudi arabia, what were you getting at? >> both, his support and alliance with saudi arabia that is providing direct and indirect support directly to al qaeda, to speak of the fact that saudi arabia continues to be the prop gator of this -- propagator of this ideology that provides the fertile recruiting grounds for al qaeda. this droois them and connected to what is happening in syria. >> shannon: you think the va liddivity of a u.s. partnership with saudi arabia, managing problems in the region, across party lines there have been a lot of discussions and a lot of talk about the fact that saudi arabia is a very important partner in the region when it comes to fighting terrorists. >> you look at where the partnership has gotten us, once again, how can you say saudi arabia is a great partner and fighting terrorism when they are

fuelling and funding frist yao grups. in yemen they're providing arms and support to al qaeda and yemen. they are strengthening al cade a. see where our -- al qaeda. waging a enon sigh dal war in -- genocidal war. and see where that partnership with saudi arabia has got wren us, they're pushing for a war with iran, far more devastating, far more costly than anything we experiences in the war in iraq. there's so much more at stake. this is the kind of change in foreign policy i'll bring as president. >> shannon: we could go to the discussions about sir aia and the competing issues there. a lot of competing interests. tough things for the country to navigate. we know you speak with the experience of a combat veteran. thank you for popping in, and we'll see you again in september.

>> look forward to it. hope to see you before that. >> shannon: from the spin room, more next. then

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i need to find the receipt for that. oh yeah, you do. >> you sknt have it both ways. you invoke president obama more than anyone in the campaign, you can't do it when it's venl and dodge when it it's not. >> shannon: all right, let's bring in tonight's power panel for analysis. jesse carlyle, molly hemingway, molly, vice president biden a lot has been maftd friendship bracelet tweets, the closeness with the obamas. senator booker sid you want to disfans yourself when it comes to the policies. >> not just senator booker but mayor de blasso pressuring him to explain where he was different than president obama. biden didn't do a great job of handling it a tax but he

responded, shieg wouldn't get into what he privately told obama about his position. it was more interesting people were taking it to kamala harris. she didn't have particularly good responses. whether it was biden going after her for her medicare for all plan, or tulsi gabbard talking about her bad criminal justice record where she was targeting peep 78 harshly. kamala harris did not have good responses. the lack of response might be more interesting than what was happening with biden. >> shannon: it may be a little bit of round one the vice president was caught off guard by the attacks that came his way. senator harris got a lot of attention, she was attacking, scoring the points, moving into another tier. but did she get the same treatment, maybe not expecting she would be the recipient of so much of this. >> definitely got a little bit

of frontrunner status tonight. i think the other candidates are well aware of the fact it will be hard to chip away at joe biden's lead, they need on look at the person second close toast him on the stage. elizabeth warren and bernie sanders would have been a different issue all together. the other candidates came prepared for attacks on biden and on senator harris, probably good half hour to 40 minutes where she was quiet. and cory booker was dominating, secretary castro. were talking and being asked questions in the back and forth. people also figured out that you can raise your hand and you were going to get to talk again. you had a lot of back and forth michael bennet, secretary castro, obviously long shots for the nomination but got more time than you would expect them to. >> shannon: well, we heard again, a lot of people figured the more progressive group was last night. mayor deblasio said we shouldn't be apologizing for the fact we

want to do a radical restructuring of things, that's what i'm going on do and the democrats need to stop shying away from that. >> he won't be president, it's not terribly relevant. he was playing the delaney role from last night tonight going after a front runner from the opposite end of the democratic spectrum. he was effective occasionally trying to press biden on certain points. when it came back to him he was reminded most viewers of why he's not terribly liked at all even in new york city where he's mayor and doesn't play on a national stage. the thing shannon that is just fascinating, almost baffling to me, is the extent to which almost the entire field is ceding the ground of defend owing bam a and obama's legacy to biden. on some of these huge issues they're debating at great length, healthcare or immigration, either explicitly or implicitly the rest of the field is taking shots at barack obama, joe biden handling it at

times, in muddled way at times, is playing defense on barack obama's legacy. but most democratic voters, the vast majority of democratic voters, view obama's legacy positively although i disagree do most voters on the independent side of things as well. it's a huge advantage for biden that he's almost getting, by default, and i wonder how long they're going to keep letting him win on that terrain. >> shannon: quickly, literally, one word from you or two if you use both names. who was the winner of the night, molly? >> mary ann williamson. >> molly. thanks's not my answer. joe biden is the answer. >> i think biden. although he wasn't great. >> biden. >> shannon: thanks for staying up with us, great to see on you night two of the debate. more from the spin room in detroit next. *the debate.

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every candidate from the stage tonight except for joe biden. they have come out to try to talk about what they did right, maybe could have done differently. one of those candidates is right here, and secretary castro's staff is eagerly trying to bring him over to us. we will have secretary castro here in just a second. hud secretary uchbld the obama administration i'm sure you know from when we hosted a town hall with him a couple of months ago. secretary castro we're live. i wanted to ask you, joe biden came after you, he said if you've got a problem with the obama deportation policy, i didn't hear you mentioning it in meetings privately with obama in the cabinet room. can you respond to that? >> that was between the of two us, only one of us was consider it kaflt things a were going on on immigration during that administration. and that was me.

secondly, i said clearly, that i learned the lessons of the past. and the vice president hasn't. those lessons are, it doesn't matter how many people you deport or how cruel are you to the migrants, mitch mcconnell and his right wing republicans are never going to come to the negotiating table. secondly, we can't wait on immigration reform. we need to move forward on that. third, if we want to guarantee that no future administration can truly, cruelly separate little children from their parents then we need to terminate, repeal that sefkts law that i talked about -- that section of the law. i've learned those press ons and clearly the ims vice president has not. >> thank you, we're running out of live show. you can see all around us, candidates, marked by the signs, michael bennet is nearby, bill deblasio head and shoulders above just about everybody else. we are going to continue looking for sound as tonight goes on

once the show is over. and we'll let you know what we get. shannon? >> shannon: okay, sounds good. and much like round one we didn't see the vice president after those rounds defense bates either. he's a repeat nonreturn customer. peter will keep looking for him. stay with us, more from the spin room right after this break. my insurance rates are probably gonna double. but dad, you've got allstate. with accident forgiveness they guarantee your rates won't go up just because of an accident. smart kid. indeed. are you in good hands?

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♪ nneae are back here alive at th fox theater in detroit. the second round is done. the next time the debate stage we be much less crowded because the qualifications now change for it last night expose some deep divisions between so-calle moderate democrats in the marke of candidates for the former jo vice president himself joe bide asked if he was progressive enough to be up against the president had to head. the candidates now set their sights eon the vice president tonight the former vice president. he took a lot of this week

likely the last debate stage appearance for some of these contenders makes the next round. we are grateful you spent the evening with us, thinking from detroit. >> they hit the stage and they hit each other over issues like medicare for all, over and borders and a lot more. in moments, we are going to talk to reince priebus dennis kucinich, brian york, and dan bongino among others. last night we told you the real meaning behind bernie's flailing arms, john delaney's cool and that grin, and what do the candidates unknowingly reveal tonight quick to are bodily which expert is back. she'll be with us to tie it all together. we go live to detroit where shannon bream is here with one on the ground reaction you can't