♪ ♪ >> tucker: well, good evening and welcome to tucker carlson tonight. george bush spent the first nine years of his retirement saying almost nothing in public and good for him. it's a dignified and restrained posture that is long standing tradition among former chief executives. but nobody is staying silent in 2018 so president bush is now speaking out and he has a cause. seeking amnesty for millions of illegal immigrants that his administration allowed in to this country. the context for his latest remarks was a speech that bush was giving in the united arab emirates. that's authoritarian islamic. alongside him convicted felon and financier. during his remarks the

former president said he wants immediate amnesty for daca recipients. america is their home he said. congress has got to get it fixed. bush explained that we must give citizenship to illegal citizenship reward companies employee wage feel like paying american wages. there are jobs americans won't do the former president said. we ought to say thank you and welcome them. well, this is the magical world of our elites. people who have never had to worry about how illegal immigrants might effect their kids' schools or the crime rate in their gated neighborhoods or social cohesion of their communities because they are insulated from all of that instead they repeat diversity is our strength three times like a spell and assume the best will happen. the rest of us as the former president noted can shut up and say thank you. so how exactly is this faith-based immigration policy working out so far? well, let's see. we watched dreamers blockade disneyland. we watched them harass

lawmakers outside their homes to demand amnesty that they have no legal right to. that's ominous enough there are other signs. here is one. linda sarsour a professional activist the child of palestinian immigrants. you would think that she would be grateful for the opportunities this country has given her family, especially considering where they came from. but, no. linda sarsour is not grateful. thee hates our country and the people who founded it during a demonstration yesterday in washington sarsour denounced america and went on to attack senate minority leader chuck schumer for the color of his skin. watch this. >> i'm talking to chuck schumer, who is also from brooklyn: i'm tired of white men on the back people of color and communities like ours. [cheers and applause] but i also remember that i live in a country that was founded on the extermination of indigenous people. you have a fat kid in the highest office of this land who is running -- which has

always been a rogue agency. but now they are acting like the gestapo going and picking up people in the middle of the night. >> tucker: notice the cheers from the crowd. allot of people agree with linda sarsour and that should make you nervous. we have invited millions and millions of people into this country in recent years. now more immigrants in america right now than at any time in the history of the country. is america more united than ever before? is it stronger? please. it's just the opposite. and everyone knows it maybe that's because our elites welcome the immigrants by telling them how horrible america is. and how bigoted its native population. our immigrants believe that why wouldn't they? it's not their fault. it's ours. we are creating a lot of lynn is linda sarsours. they need a reason to stick together. they don't do it organically. elites ought to stay up night after night every night trying to figure out

what reason is. a shared cull turks a set of core beliefs? pick one. our ruling class rejects all of those. just shut up and say thank you. that's their answer. it won't end well. sanchez isa democratic congressl candidate in texas for the seventh district there. he joins us tonight. mr. sanchez, thanks for coming on. >> thank you for allowing us to practice democracy and allowing the other side of the aisle to say a few words. >> tucker: amen. we do it every night and i believe in that with title sincerity. >> the american dream, thank you. >> tucker: maybe we'll agree on this. tell me your response when you hear a child of immigrants say to a room full of people here illegally, immigrants, this country was founded on the extermination of indigenous peoples? does that bother you? >> well, i believe we are a country of immigrants, right? everyone from all over the world came here and are still coming here.

>> tucker: right. >> we did in a sense force ourselves in to create now the greatest country that the world has ever seen. >> tucker: but i guess -- i'm not an immigrant. you are probably not an immigrant either. >> i am. >> tucker: oh, you are? great. i think a lot of immigrants are good people, actually. i think it's really important that they become part of this country and in order to do that you have to love the country. does it bother you when someone that immigrants listen to like linda sarsour says this is a bad country run by racists and its history is inherently racist. this country is built on murdering people. do you believe that? >> i think they are just a little bit frustrated about the lack of representation much in congress or legislators. my friend, i am basically a dreamer with papers. i was brought to this country at 6 years old through absolutely no fault of of my own. my mother was actually a prosecuting attorney and my

father physicist in the country of colombia. my mom's house was blown up. and so a letter came to my mother's office saying next time you put your kids on the school bus, they're not coming back. so, we landed here. i was sold on the idea that we were coming to see the great disney land and bill clinton and we have to start all over. but i don't know why. >> tucker: i will stop you there. it's a familiar and a great story. and i'm in favor of that story. but i just want to get -- the details matter to me. i'm an american citizen. i suppose like you. do you think you say they don't have representation. do you think people who aren't citizens deserve representation in congress? >> i think they are humans and everybody reserves the respect and respect and dignity most definitely. >> tucker: that wasn't my question. human. do people -- hold on. do people who are not american citizens deserve to be represented in the congress of the united states? you suggested they were. >> they have a voice.

they deserve a voice. they deserve a voice. i think. >> tucker: why would they deserve a voice in the congress? i'm not asking reagan. he is not here. okay. hold on. i'm just asking you, so people who are not american citizens deserve to be heard in the congress. does that include people living in nor way or iceland? does the world deserve a voice in congress? our understanding was -- the american understanding is congress is for american citizens. that's what our democracy is. >> yeah. the people that are definitely contributing to our society and live in our neighborhoods, definitely do deserve a voice. and you know, if we will go. >> tucker: so citizenship doesn't matter. >> no, of course. >> tucker: you don't need to be a citizenship to be represented by congress? >> of course you do. there is people who have been living here longer times than i have, and pay taxes and take their kids to school and contribute to society and literally.

>> tucker: i'm not attacking them. it's just if you are going to have a country you have to figure out what it means to keep it. >> number one country in the world. that's what we want to do. this country provided us opportunity. how beautiful is that? we want to make sure that this country will progress. we want to stay number one in the world, right? and there is china and japan. all. >> tucker: wait, slow down. i'm not going to let you give your speech. i probably agree with loot of it. i want to remain number one, too. that's why i want to ask you these two questions. before we as americans lit people become citizens and vote in our elections and get represented in that congress, should we ask them to agree with what's in the constitution and speak english? >> yeah. the thing is that the last immigration policy we had is older than the internet or computers. it's very outdated. if you want to legally immigrate from mexico or from india. >> tucker: i'm sorry. we are almost out of time. i'm going to press you, ivan, i want to press to you answer my question should we ask immigrants before they

become citizens speak english well and agree with the constitution? >> i agree that they need to learn the language like i have. right? >> tucker: yes. >> and, of course, follow the law. but at times just like my mother, right? she came here to the united states you will of a sudden. a lot of the people cannot wait 25 years to immigrate. so their. >> tucker: they don't want to wait it 5 years. it's not up to them. can they? >> they can't if their family's life is in danger, would you wait. >> tucker: people's lives are in danger around the world and i feel sorry for them but why does that mean they have a right to live in my country? >> well, this is the country was founded on immigration. and. >> tucker: no, it wasn't, actually. it wasn't. it wasn't the founded as a haven for the rest of the world. whatever the poem says. that's not true. so but i'm just saying where did they get that right? why did they have a right to move here if their lives are in danger? >> well, we are the most carrying world -- nation in the world, right?

we have asylum and that's what the way that i came. and this is not about eve even -- deporting these people would hurt our economy significantly. >> tucker: okay, all right. >> dreamers we would spend about $60 billion. >> tucker: look, that's a whole another debate and i don't know if you are prepared for that thanks a lot for coming on. i appreciate it. thank you. >> thank you for having me. >> tucker: thanks. victor davis hanson is a fellow at the hoover institution a professor emeritus of classics at california state university fresno. he joins us tonight. professor, thanks for coming on. >> thank you for having me, tucker. >> tucker: so my concern is how does a country of 320 million people who don't have much in common with each other hang together? and what's the answer to that? >> well, we have to have a common set of values. we have to share in the constitution. and we're a great experiment. we never -- it's never been tried before or after the founding of the united states. we are a multiracial society.

but we have one common culture. so our appearance, our superficial appearance has to be incidental to our character. it's not essential. so if we all start going in to tribal clicks, then there is no unification. that's what's happening now. i felt bad for your guest but my gosh, it's not just the trump miracle that's giving empowerment to the working entry level classes. it's also a radical curtailment in illegal immigration. so forth first time unemployment may be in peace time below 4%. and employers have to compete now. they have quote to go to the burrow, inner city, red state, poor whites and they say you are the only game in town. they have leverage and that's why wages are going up after a decade. >> tucker: yeah, maybe we will do something to improve the schools when we have to and can't import a new labor source from abroad and outsource there. what you said elites sensible and obvious anyone who thinks about it if you have a country divided by tribe it's going to be at

war with itself. why liberals promoting that and they are. >> had you a perfect example in entry level remarks. ms. sarsour represents the identity politics left where she wants a demographic that this and this man keen way think it's white or nonwhite. almost like we have to have d.n.a. badges. she will be the collective representative for white nonwhite. i admire george w. bush but he inadvertently got himself in a situation where is he a spokesman for cheap labor and goes overseas and violates churchill's dictum you never criticize the president when you are on foreign soil. you neep need cheap labor. who needs cheap labor. he says something very tragic he says we need people to pick cotton in 105-degree weather. i think cotton picking has been mechanized for 50 years and it's increasing. that was an argument, tucker of the 19th century slave

owner who said we need people from africa to pick cotton in 100-degree weather. it's not good argument. not ethically on the right side of history. >> tucker: no. our ruling class hasn't you updated its perception in a few decades. professor, thank you for being here tonight. i appreciate it? >> thank you for having me. >> tucker: want to bring you a fox news alert. democratic senator mark warner of virginia, influence has learned, texted with you a russian oligarch lobbyist in an effort to contact the author of the trump dossier christopher steele because you can't make this up. fox news ed henry has this story and he joins us with details. hey, ed. >> these texts obtained exclusively by fox news and they show and can you see them right here i have them that senator mark warmer a democrat who has been leading one of the investigations of president trump's ties to russia had extensive contact with that lobbyist oligarch who offered him access to steele who wrote the dossier. warner texted at one point he would, quote, rather not have a paper trail in case

he could not seal an agreement with the former british spy to testify. steele so far has not agreed to interview with the senate intel panel. he began, warner did, texting with this lobbyist adam waldman in february 2017 about getting testimony from russian billionaire ohleg daroposco had his visa revoked because he has ties to russia organized crime. warner wanted contact with steele without anyone being in the loop. we have so much to discuss we need to be careful. we can help our country waldman texted on march 2 27b9d. i'm in waldman who has a firm with ties to hillary clinton texted back. waldman was concerned about media leaks warner sent another text quote: we want to do this right. private in london. don't want to send letter yet because if we can't get agreement, would rather not have paper trail. now, the panel, the senate intel panel got these texts from waldman last september after they asked for them. and a warner aide

acknowledged that warner and richard burr, the republican chairman revealed the texts to their colleagues because, quote, they realize out of context it doesn't look great for warner. warner and burr stressed to fox tonight that the chairman of the committee richard burr was in the loop about this. waldman did not return calls seeking comment. he signed a $40,000 a month retainer in 2000 and 2010 to petition the u.s. government on behalf of that russian billionaire. that billionaire by the way is supposed to have ties to paul manafort which is why the committee wanted to get to him. remember, this investigation started with these various committees and now robert mueller looking at the president's ties to russians now is being turned around a little bit on democrats. tucker? >> tucker: a little bit? it doesn't look good. when a president says -- a senator says he doesn't want, quote, a paper trail, that's not good. ed, thank you for that. it's a great story. >> good to see you, tucker. thanks. >> tucker: one fbi informant says russia spent millions trying to influence the clintons and the obama

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in washington to assist the clinton global initiative. they did this in the hopes that the obama administration would then treat russia favorably on the deal. peter schweizer is the author of "clinton cash." he joins us tonight. so, peter, how -- i mean, this seems like a big story. doesn't mean it will be covered by anybody but us tomorrow. but this man at the center of it, campbell, can you explain his role in this? >> sure. so campbell is a very interesting guy. he has a history that hints at some background either in the military or intelligence. but, he found himself in the mid 2,000s at basically serving in this capacity with tennex russian firm consultant paying $50,000 a month to help things happening in washington, d.c. as a consultant. he saw what was happening. he became an informant for the fbi and started sharing information. and what he is saying is

that, you know, in this 2009-2010 period, when uranium one was being considered and finally approved by the obama administration, that the russians were funneling money through apco, this lobbying firm in an effort to help that happen and to benefit hillary clinton. and he says he told the fbi about this back in 2010, and they basically tried to bury it ever since. >> tucker: interesting. what's so striking about this story the russians were so concerned that this deal wouldn't go through. yet, we have been assured by everyone in washington, the establishment, many idiot news anchor in the tank for the left but all sorts of responsible people oh, it was no big deal. it was authorized by all these different agencies. it was not controversial. but it was controversial. there were people who thought it was a bad idea to give any of our uranium to a russian company, weren't there. >> oh, that's exactly right. take congressman king from long island. he was the ranking member on the homeland security committee. he is not a bomb thrower by any means. he was opposed to this deal.

the ranking republican on the house foreign affairs committee was opposed to this deal. senator barrasso of wyoming was opposed to this deal. all raising legitimate questions and concerns about it. this was a controversial deal outside the obama administration but within the obama administration, there was very little debate and rammed through rather quickly. >> tucker: so we -- at this point are we certain and i don't want to get over our skis at all on this. are we certain that the government of russia spent money in order to lobby the obama administration and perhaps the clintons who was serving as secretary of state at the time in order to secure this uranium deal? we know that? >> well, what we know is that the russians gave money to apco, $3 million. the russians, according to campbell in audio and videotapes that the fbi have say that it was used for the purposes of yiewrmin uranium on.

apco denied that and said other work. that's part of the problem, tucker, all this russian money is sloshing around washington, d.c. and it's not a surprise loot of people making money and a lot of people trying to do bidding for moscow whether it was on uranium one or on other issues. >> tucker: if you are going to pretend that russia is our greatest international threat you would have to be concerned about this. but of course they are not because they are liars. peter, thank you. good to see you. >> thank you, tucker. >> tucker: macy's department stores unveiling brand new line of fashionable muslim garb consistent with sharia law. we will ask the now. national organization for women whether this constitutes a victory for feminism. stay tuned. ♪ d had twin boys.

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thinking, do you think that islam is a feminist religio religion? >> well, what i think is that religion in every form throughout history has oppressed women in many ways. and islam isn't any different what's striking to me about this new line of macy's is that muslim women in the united states have $44 billion in buying power. that's pretty spectacular. >> tucker: that's great. s i'm all for buying power. clothing is to promote modesty among women. for a bunch of different reasons. it's in the quran. it's, of course, a central part of islamic culture. so are you for that? do you think women should be coerced to dress modestly? is that a feminist goal? >> i think what a feminist goal is for women to be in control of their lives and their destinies and to have

choices. so, whether a woman wants to wear a hijab or she doesn't is really not the point. i think what's really interesting what we have been seeing. >> tucker: wait, wait. i'm confused it's not the point. so if i say as islamic countries do you don't have a choice, you have to wear the hijab because you need to be modest and if you are not, you could get raped and if you do it's your fault and you have to avert your gaze from men and not touch nonrelatives who are men. is that okay with you? >> i was referring to the united states. but you know what's really interesting if you take a look at what's happening, here you have in the united states women who had never done add hijab in their entire life. and marched over to jfk airport at the time of the trump travel ban and started wearing hijab because as a symbol of resistance in protest to that. at the same time they are wearing them as a symbol of empowerment and at the same

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and for others it is not. and it really is a matter of perspective as to where you are. let's talk about you. >> tucker: what female mutilation? >> talk about men, they are in the subway august days, i feel so bad for american men with their suits and their ties. >> tucker: i feel bad for them too probably for other reasons. >> you are letting society tell you how you should dress. >> tucker: take it past this idea trying to on open-minded man, modern man. the idea that a garment that a religion has forced women to wear for more than a thousand years because they are women, forcing them to be modest, is somehow empowering for women. i mean, do you think that, for example, women are asked to walk behind their husbands or in some countries you are not allowed to drive or vote. under certain circumstances, can that be empowering? can female gender mutilation be empowering? that's common? islamic country. >> those are quite extreme examples that you are trying

to compare. >> tucker: no. i don't know why. they are all features of the same religion and they are all gender specific. so i don't know -- i mean, i think they are extreme, too. i think the hijab is extreme. you don't for some reason and i don't know why. >> as i said, there are women who do find it empowering. but most importantly, it's really not the top issue. i don't go to work every day and think about what wardrobes women are wearing and what it represents. >> tucker: oh, really? i thought that was a huge part of women's liberation actually. >> a big part of women's liberation is making sure that the trump administration does not roll back our right to full reproductive healthcare. >> tucker: abortion, right. >> i go to work every day to think about how to close the wage gap. >> tucker: i'm starting to think care more about identity politics than women. i'm throwing that out there. endorsing the hijab maybe it's not about women, has that occurred to you. >> the only thing i'm

endorsing today with you and with all of your viewers is that. >> tucker: okay. >> discrimination is alive and well for women in this country. >> tucker: in the form of the hijab, for example, just to name one. >> no. >> tucker: this is so lunatic i can't go on. >> in the workplace. what we need to do is end sexual harassment in the workplace. >> tucker: and the hijab, too. >> close the wage gap. and if those women can do that while wearing a hijab, more power to them. and i will be there with them. >> tucker: or foot binding or fjn. >> thank you. it's been fun. >> tucker: america seems to be sucked into a war in syria. the shooting started last night. did you know that? will it help you? will it help them in any way? we will talk about that when we come back. l night? abdominal pain... ...and diarrhea. but it's my anniversary.

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greed-inspired disaster that have invaded many american cities in case you haven't noticed last night we represented arizona travis campaigning to ban red light cameras in his state because they exploit the population. today the arizona house blessedly approved his bill 31-27. it now goes to the state senate in arizona. of course, our well wishes and fervent prayers are with travis granthom in his efforts. since 2000 1, americans have spent thousands of lives and trillions of dollars in afghanistan, iraq, libya, yemen, pakistan and a whole bunch of other countries. hard to find a single person who believes america is richer or happier as a result or the world more stable. not surprisingly americans are not enthusiastic for more foreign wars. so now washington is just conducting them without telling you anything about it it's happening in syria. you probably didn't know about it, because it wasn't reported much. some white house personnel thing took precedence but last night the u.s. conducted air strikes on

syrian government forces and said it was in response to an attack on u.s. based forces. without much of a debate we appear to be sucked into another war in syria. michael walls is a republican candidate for congress to for from florida counter terrorism vice president dick cheney and he joins us tonight. thanks a lot for coming on. i appreciate it. >> hey, thanks, tucker. >> tucker: i realize these things are really complicated. that's the nature of them there are upsides and down sides. if you take a few steps back. life expectancy in the united states just went down reported today for the second year in a worl row. a lookout of hurting people in this country. how does getting involved in a war in syria and we're involved in a war in syria. >> yeah. >> tucker: help americans in any way? >> well, tucker, first i think we need to take a step back and kind of go macroto micro. the world has enjoyed this longest period of prosperity post world war ii led by the united states. defended by the united states military. the system that i think we often take for granted of

relatively free trade, of democratic values of individual liberty, not all countries are perfect but out united states has to lead. so, in this case since specifically, you know, i think what we saw in the last 8 years, particularly in the middle east is what happens when we have a commander-in-chief, in this case president obama, who decides, you know what? the united states' engagement abroad does more harm than good, doesn't help the united states and let's withdraw american leadership. we saw that when president obama backed out of iraq and he almost backed out of afghanistan. >> tucker: i have got to interrupt you. >> saw the rise of isis. >> tucker: hold on. i agree everything you said. america is the best. our leadership is in -- obama was bad. >> that's how it benefits the united states. >> tucker: specifically we are now in a shooting war in syria. >> right. >> tucker: which has had the worst civil war in the world in the last few years and i

want to know how specifically that benefits america. i think it's a fair question given out recent past. >> well, i think, you know, look, look what's happened in europe the last four or five years coming out of syria and what's happened in the united states. we had the rise of isis in the wake of obama's withdraw from iraq. we have now president trump has led a strategy to defeat isis as a state. it's not defeated as a movement. but it is defeated as a state. and it's not a surprise that a lot of those attacks in europe have slowed down if not stopped. and a lot of inspiration in the united states whether it's san bernardino or orlando or other places have also stopped. so i think americans are safer as a result of president trump's strategy to take isis down and now -- >> tucker: i agree but that's also. >> what do we do in the aftermath and that's going to be incredibly difficult and complicated. >> tucker: what's so confusing is. i agree with everything you said once again which doesn't get to the question i asked. bashar assad dictator. he was against isis, too.

now we are fighting him? it seems commented to m commento me and i bet you if you polled most americans they would agree with me. >> what the administration is doing now and what president trump is doing now is shifting from identifies shio iran. russia is heavily involved. a lot of people rightly asking why not just let the russians to take care of it i will tell you a couple of reasons. one, the russians don't care about isis. they care about defending assad. two they are aligned with iran. iran has a made more gains under the last decade under the observed in term obama admin advancing i had jim any than they have made in the last thousand years. three, i will quote nato commander muslims have weaponized refugees piled them into europe. allowed isis to infiltrate and done more to destabilize our partners in europe than the warsaw pact ever did. >> tucker: that's pure

propaganda. russia and iran were bad. that's my opinion. i wish we had more time. >> i do, too. >> tucker: thanks for joining us. >thanks. >> tucker: parades are fun president trump want to throw one for the fourth of july and a lot of people are collapsing into panic. that story is next. ♪ before discovering nexium 24hr to treat her frequent heartburn... claire could only imagine enjoying chocolate cake. now, she can have her cake and eat it too. nexium 24hr stops acid before it starts for all-day, all-night protection. can you imagine 24 hours without heartburn? it's ok that everyone ignores it's fine. drive. because i get a safe driving bonus check every six months i'm accident free. and i don't share it with mom! right, mom? righttt. safe driving bonus checks. only from allstate. switching to allstate is worth it. hey. pass please. i'm here to fix the elevator. nothing's wrong with the elevator. right. but you want to fix it.

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♪ >> tucker: if the president likes something the press will hate it. physics principle opposite reaction thing. reaching new extremes on that. this year it emerged after visiting france the president became enthusiastic about a military parade and thought why should have one here like the one after world war ii or desert storm. of course he was labeled a tyrant almost immediately. watch. >> it seems the president's requested parade was

approved quickly because i think it took place early this morning. look. [laughter] there you go. there is your parade. >> oh, there you go. >> trump saw the pentagon to plan a military parade. all right. check your cards. who has dictator bingo? [laughter] >> do you think there is another piece of this totalitarianism? >> we are getting more north korean every day in this country. >> it does seem to be deeply unamerican. certainly in 2018. >> tucker: who let all the dumb people on tv. unbelievable. joe concha covers the media for the hill he joins us tonight. so, joe, my favorite. by the way i'm totally agnostic. i don't have any strong feelings one way or the other. i lo the guy green party or something, he was going to stand in front of the tanks like tank man in tiananmen square in '89. would he be joined by reporters, do you think? >> sounding like it based on that montage, tucker.

look, i'm in new jersey. background kind of gives that away. and in new york i go to a couple parades that go on there per year. in fact, there are actually more than 20 parades per year basically almost every week during the summer in new york. i mean, you have the coney island mermaid parade, the pulaksi parade which honors a polish american hero from the american revolutionary war. then you have the big ones like macy's and the saint patrick's day parade which i may or may not have been too. the details are sketchy. the point is we have a lot of parades in this country and even outside this country, south korea where the winter olympics is starting tomorrow, they have military parades. france, you mentioned that before. that's where the president got his idea. look, i always love to play a game in these situations. take out the name trump proposes military parade and put in a name like biden and let's say joe biden said you know what would be a great idea? to honor our folks in our military on july 4th, in washington, d.c. would you see one snip of reaction?

i don't think so. >> tucker: can i ask you a met can a question here. if trump is a dangerous authoritarian dictator, why does it seem like left wing federal judges are making all the key decisions? >> that's a very good point. i mean, as far as press briefings, i can at least speak to that we had a daily briefing today. we have had daily briefings almost every day. reporters are still on air force one. it seems the freedom of the press in terms of the opinions and the ability to report hasn't been impeded in any way. so, the totalitarianism argument doesn't seem to really apply here. look, i'm like you. personally, i would have to seat costs first and logistics around. this. >> tucker: right. >> i think it would be a good idea maybe the president maybe to go to afghanistan and speak to the troops. back up with action. hasn't done anything like that yet. >> tucker: how about bringing them home might be the best way to honor get them out of there. >> good point. the presidential debate in 2016, 84 million people watched the first one and all you see is the blue wall behind, right? i think it's a great opportunity, a military parade or any time you think

you have a loft eyeballs on something use this as fundraising effort. homes for vets in this case or saint jude's hospital, kids with cancer. have this military parade but have the network broadcast it without commercials and raise money off of it, i think it would be a very good thing. i don't know why everybody has to get upset around a mere proposal around honoring our military. >> tucker: very quickly i know you are not a physician and i'm not either. do you think it's healthy to be as angry as they seem to be every time every day. >> i think we are seeing a lot more performance art at this point, tucker. i think we have talked about this. they are playing to a crowd. they know that their audience primarily is anti-trump on some other networks. and they are just playing into their emotions. i don't even think they are angry about half this stuff. they say. >> tucker: i hope not because i'm starting to worry about jim acosta? is he going to be okay? that's reassuring. joe, thank you very much. >> good to see you. >> tucker: good to see. stopped a terrorists on a train now portraying their

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>> tucker: not only did you do this and one the great good deeds ever but you got whole new careers out of it what was it like -- had any of you acted before. >> never, never. not even a school play. >> tucker: well then to go from like zero to hollywood film directed by clinton eastwood is a lot. how did you do i do it. >> we honestly did it how we did the first time really. that's the only advice he gave us to be ourselves and do it how we did it? >> only clint eastwood could pull something like this off. he gave us the confidence to attempt it we had to try it. >> we trusted him so much. we knew going into it he would do the story justice and just having him like anthony said having the confidence in us was all we needed. >> tucker: was it hard? >> it was fun. i mean it was hard at first getting used to it. but i think we kind ofly themed with it pretty quickly and actually finished ahead of schedule, i think. >> he takes the weight of shooting a big motion picture off of you. he keeps it real light. you where your two friends. do what you did and i will

capture the rest. when clint eastwood says that you have got to trust him on that. >> tucker: yeah. so what was it like filming the pivotal scene in the movie and in your lives on the train? >> it was honestly just a lot of fun. i mean, a lot of people think it would be tram advertising but luckily we don't have ptsd. nobody died that day on the train. i mean, we just got to hang out for a week on the train with two best friends and clint eastwood. >> you get to do it twice that's pretty cool. more than just a headline. everybody gets to see actually what happened. how messy and crazy it was. and hopefully it inspires people to maybe do something in those situations. >> tucker: that's it right there. i'm not judging anyone. i haven't been in that kind of situation. you see a lot of these things unfold and nobody does that why do you think that is? >> people are scared. which we were scared as well, too. i think the unique thing about our situation is we were just on a train and we had nowhere to go. so i know all these situations are different. you know, all these different attacks and stuff like that. but hopefully this changes the narrative a little bit and inspires people out

there, you know, the common man can do something if they find themselves in the same situation. >> tucker: yeah, if they are brave, which you guys are. and that's always the key. had any of you thought a scenario of like that through if i'm ever in a situation like that this is what i'm going through. >> we kind of played war growing up together. we always asked each other like if a guy comes in this room what are you going to do? answers were always the same. >> that was the biggest contributing factor is our friendship going back so far and we all knew we would be on the same page if something like that happened. >> tucker: yeah, but you actually did it most people just talk about it did you it? >> we were just as surprised. >> yeah. given the opportunity, and that's really it. >> tucker: god, well, i'm glad hollywood came to memorialize this for all time. thank you guys for joining us tonight congratulations. >> thanks for having us, man. >> tucker: hard to believe it's over but it is. tune in every night at 8:00 to the show that's the sworn enemy of lying pomposity, snugness and group think.

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