was it fun my and does it change your opinion of hillary at all? maybe you weren't the target audience. maybe it was kids. go to facebook.com/the kelly file. let me know what you think. thanks for watching. this is "the kelly file." tonight, the insurgent outsider candidates continue to rise in the polls. ainsley earhardt has a full report. >> we're not going to sit down and shut up, we're going to stand up and express ourselves. because that's who we are. as americans. plus, dr. benjamin carson is here tonight with reaction. >> look at the situation they chose to exploit, to go after me for political reasons. the death of four americans in benghazi. >> then hillary clinton rips republicans for investigating the benghazi attack. ed klein and sheryl atkinson will weigh in. >> if you had somebody with guns in that room, you would have been a hell of a lot better off. >> then republicans push back against the left's political

politicized rhetoric call fog more gun control. and reaction to the growing feud between donald trump and marco rubio. hahn starts right here, right now. welcome to "hannity" tonight. the political outsider insurgent candidates continue to dominate in the polls and hillary clinton is now losing in head-to-head matchups with some gop candidates in very key states. "fox and friends" co-host ainsley earhardt at the "hannity" big board tonight. >> let me tell you and your viewers. voters in two important states continue to throw their support behind republican candidates who come from outside of washington and have never held public office. in iowa donald trump and dr. ben carson continue to separate themselves from the rest of the field with 24 and 19%. carly fiorina is in third place with 8% followed by jeb bush, ted cruz and marco rubio. as for new hampshire, things are a little tighter in that state. trump still has the top spot with 21%, then carly fiorina continues to gain momentum with 16%.

jeb bush has 11% followed by marco rubio and ben carson with 10%, and then chris christie has 7. now sean, another national poll, a new one, has some very good news for dr. ben carson. it shows him leading donald trump 24 to 17%. it is a very good sign for dr. carson. but we're going to have to wait until all the other polls come out to see if the trend continues, of course. also tonight hillary clinton's ongoing scandal as they continue to drag her down in the polls. it is starting to show in a potential head-to-head matchup with notable gop candidates. this is where it gets interesting. in new hampshire, hillary clinton would fall to jeb bush by 7 points if they were to square off in a general election. sean, carly fiorina would top clinton by 8 points if voters had to decide between those two candidates. in the all-important state of iowa, sean, clinton would lose to trump by 7 points, bush by 10 and fiorina would beat her by a whopping 14 points.

finally tonight, clinton unveiled her new plans for gun control measures at an event in new hampshire. here is part of what she said earlier today. >> it's time for us to say, wait a minute, we're better than that. our country is better than this. and there are steps we can take that improve gun safety and further the prevention of violence by guns. and today i am proposing what i consider to be commonsense approaches. >> all right, sean, there you have it. back to you. >> all right, ainsley, thank you so much. ainsley will be back with more numbers later on in the program. joining me now the author of the book "the more perfect union," what the people can do to reclaim our constitutional liberties, the man himself, 2016 republican presidential candidate dr. benjamin carson. how you, dr. carson?

good to see you. >> always good to be with you. >> look at these numbers. it's trump, it's you, it's fiorina. what is happening out in the electorate? what are you hearing when you meet people? >> first of all, i hear people saying to me constantly, please, don't let them change you, be who you are, don't back down, believe in what you believe in. that's so important. because people are used to double talk. and they're used to politicians saying whatever is politically expedient and having their finger up in the air and seeing which way the air is blowing. right now they're looking for something they can truly believe in. they're looking for people who have actually worked in the real world, have real world accomplishments, demonstrate that they know how to solve complex problems. and i think that's resonating. >> it's interesting. in most polls, it's trump and then you. i can't think of two more diametrically opposed personalities, you being more shy and demure and soft-spoken and then donald trump being brash and outspoken and confident.

that's interesting to me. but the one thing you have in common is you never held political office. fascinating. >> we've not held political office, but i think the thing that's important to the people is that we're not looking like people who are going to be corralled by the political establishment. >> understood. it's interesting. you wrote this book and you spend a lot of time in the book talking about fidelity to our constitution. i don't care the issue of same-sex marriage, second amendment, executive action, freedom of religion, you are viewing every one of these important issues through the prism of the constitution. explain that. >> i talk about in the book -- or i said we talk about -- because my wife is the co-writer. my wife is an excellent writer. but the fact of the matter is we talked about how it was formed, and what the basis of it was and the kinds of people who were involved in writing it. and the friction that occurred

in the writing of it and how they were able to resolve these things. these men were incredibly bright. and they were able to see into the future and think about all the things that were possibly going to happen and to write a constitution with the help of god, by the way -- a lot of people don't know that. >> isn't that fascinating through this discussion? if they had to fight over slavery at that time, the nation wouldn't have been formed. that's my reading of history. >> that's correct. >> but they did put in place in their wisdom, which i think you're talking about here, the mechanism to right wrongs and correct injustices. >> yes. >> over time. >> and they recogy were not perfect and that the document itself was not perfect, and that it would have to adjust with time. there are a lot of things that we need to think about now. for instance, when we wrote the constitution, the average age of death was around 47. >> thanks to surgeons like you you're keeping us around a lot longer. i'm past my due date then.

>> which means perhaps lifetime appointments need to be reviewed again. >> interesting. i want to ask you, because you've been on the campaign trail, when you say something like the comment you made about muslims. the media explodes. i had you on the program right after that. i said, do you mean you'd want to know that they do not adhere sharia or radicalization? and you said, that's what i meant. has that been a problem on the campaign trail, the media turning a small comment into a bigger issue. >> it hasn't been a problem with the people. it's been a problem with the left-wing media, although i've asked several of them, so are you telling me that you would like to have a president who believes in sharia? who believed in taqiya, who believe in all of the various components. >> the antithesis of the constitution, which you write about. >> right.

and of course they immediately divert to another topic at that point because they don't want to admit it. >> he finds it's all gotcha. i watched the last cnn debate. you stood on your feet for three hours. he said this about you, you said this about you. and go fight it out. the whole thing was designed to fight. >> it was. and that's why i largely didn't participate. i'm not going to let somebody sit there and pull my strings, sic him. >> you said something to me earlier today that really shocked me. that you were unhappy you never get asked a foreign policy question. is that true in both debates you weren't asked a foreign -- i don't know for sure. >> they have a tendency not to ask me about foreign policy. they ask me about economics. they assume the only thing you know is maybe something about race and maybe something about medicine. >> well, let me ask you. you see what vladimir putin is doing and his influence, he seems to be filling a vacuum left by the united states. you see that his first attack in syria was not against isis but it was against american-backed

rebels that want to depose assad. >> correct. >> that seemed to be by design. that was almost a proxy attack on the united states, from my position. what are your thoughts, and how would you handle it? >> my thoughts are that he really was very disappointed with the dissolution of the soviet union, and he wants to rebuild an empire, and he needs to extend his influence widely, and he is noticing that there is weakness and, therefore, like any bully, he's going to continue to push. and i believe that we need to stand up to him. >> how? how would you specifically -- if you're president, what would you do? >> first of all, i wouldn't listen to his generals saying, you guys can't fly here any more. >> can you imagine that? >> not only can we fly but you need to go take a flying leap. not a problem. >> you would be willing to create confrontation. >> absolutely. >> we're here first. >> absolutely. >> you won't get in the way. and if he wants a showdown? >> i would establish a no-fly zone along the turkish border. and i wouldn't respect any of

the boundaries that they set. and i would also know that his relationships go way, way, way, way back, you know. 1968 at patrice lamumba university. that's when putin first got to know the ali khomeini and mahmoud abbas. all these relationships are very, very complex. we have to stop him wherever he is. we have to stop him in the baltic basin, all around that entire, not just the baltic states be, the whole basin. >> it is a problem. western europe is dependent on their energy. >> and we can stop them there because we have abundant energy. >> we do, that we don't use. more with dr. carson coming up right after the break. we'll ask him why he thinks the outsider candidates are resonating so well with you the voters. we'll talk more foreign policy, economics. later the feud between republican rivals marco rubio, donald trump is now heating up. we'll explain. is it time for hillary clinton

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it frees up federal funds for flood victims. it includes grants for temporary housing and home repairs. the flooding is blamed for ten deaths in south carolina and two deaths in neighboring north carolina. nato lashes out at russia, calling its violations of turkish airspace irresponsible behavior. moscow says one of its jets involved in eric strikes in syria accidentally crossed into syria because of bad weather. turkey now warns any future intrudeler be treated like an enemy. a d.c.-bound amtrak train derailing near montpelier, vermont. it lapped after rocks fell on the tracks. seven people were hurt, but four of them since been released from the hospital. i'm kelly wright. now back to "hannity." welcome back to "hannity." as we have seen in recent weeks, the outsider candidates continue to surge in the polls leaving

many of the career politicians scratching their head. what's behind this movement? many believe it's their refusal to be politically correct. take a look. >> maybe they don't want a straight talker. maybe they don't. no, maybe they don't. but i am so tired of this politically correct crap. >> i would not advocate that we put a muslim in charge of this nation. i absolutely would not agree with that. >> i think american blacks over the course of this next year will begin to see that they've been manipulated very, very largely. and people telling them what they're supposed to thing and what they're supposed to say. >> not only are taxpayers having to fund this butchery, but planned parenthood doles out millions of dollars every single election cycle to democrat candidates. this is a political slush fund. >> back with us for more is author of the brand-new book called "a more perfect union," 2016 republican presidential candidate dr. ben carson. by the way, i i've already interviewed you about the comments you made. i don't want to go down and ask

you the same questions every time you're on the program. >> i know the answers now. >> what? >> i know the answers now. >> you gave me the answer already. so otherwise we're just rehashing the last interview. is it about politically correctness? is it that the country is -- i look at the numbers, 95% of millions out of the labor force. doubling the debt. $5,000 median income decrease since obama has been president. americans are suffering. >> they are, without question. and who is paying attention to them? now, the progressives would have you believe that they're the ones who are looking out for them. but it's their progressive policies that have put the middle class and the poor in this country. because the poor and the middle class no longer have a mechanism for increasing their money. >> when you said that people would be manipulated, you are talking about some demographics in the democratic party. you mean, the people that are told that republicans want to

put you all back in chains. they don't even want to count you in the census. they want dirty air and water. they want to throw your grandmother over the cliff, that we hear every election cycle? is that the manipulation. >> and instead saying, but we'll take care of you. we'll give you housing subsidies and food stamps. we have ten times more people on food stamps than we did when the war on poverty started. >> amazing, right? >> sad. and all of these things that actually aren't elevating people. >> then let me ask you, how would ben carson as president get those people back in the labor force, get them off of food stamps, get them out of poverty, get family median income up? how do you do it? >> first of all, big jump start. there's over $2 trillion overseas in american money that's not being brought back because we have the highest corporate tax rates in the developed world. six-month hiatus, allow that money to be repatriated without taxation.

the only stipulation. >> no tax. donald trump wants 10%. >> right. the only stipulation would be that 10% of it would have to be used for empowerment zones in enterprise zones in some of our cities, or to create jobs for people who are unemployed and on welfare. and that gets business and industry back in the idea of what they used to do. >> would you lower the corporate tax rate as part of that? >> you would lower that to below the average. >> we become the tax haven? >> absolutely. we become a place where people are advantaged by working here. >> do you think we're better off lowering taxes overall? i mean, i will tell you that i pay on average 60 cents on every dollar i make. >> which is absurd. >> highway robbery. then when i die they'll take the gold out of my teeth and half of what i saved. >> right. first of all, we do not need that. nancy pelosi said if you cut the budget by one penny, it will be a disaster. not true at all. we have 4.1 million federal employees.

we have 645 federal agencies and sub agencies. we have unfunded liabilities that's incredible. our fiscal gap is $200 trillion plus. and unless we begin to deal with that, we have completely destroyed the future of those coming behind us, and we can deal with it quite easily. >> how do you take your experience of being one of the most gifted by all accounts, and i even have a friend of mine once that you interviewed him and he's a brain surgeon and neurosurgeon. and how do you take that experience and transfer that to the most difficult job in the world? >> well, for one thing you recognize that there's no one person who knows everything. solomon himself, the wisest man that ever lived -- >> i thought he built the temple himself. >> and a multitude of consulates is safety. so i do recognize that. but i also have a history of solving complex problems.

and these are complex problems. i've thought about them. i've talked to a lot of people who also know a lot about it. i have no doubt that if we use the incredible intellect that we have available to us in this country and we focus on how we do things rather than why we can't do them, we'll get them done. this is america. >> we talked about vladimir putin and a little bit about the middle east. how do we deal with radical islamic terrorism, isis, for example? >> well, first of all, we need to recognize that they are an existential threat to us. they're not some little jv group over in the middle east. and we have to be able to identify them, talk about them, recognize that they want to destroy us and our way of life. we need to use every mechanism available to us, covert and overt. >> defeat them over there before they come here? >> absolutely. you have to. >> take the war to them. >> that's not a democrat or republican issue. because i guarantee you if we don't take care of them over there, when they get here,

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welcome back to "hannity." the feud between donald trump and marco rubio continues to heat up. donald trump's latest jab came in the form of a retweet that the gop front-runner posted which shows a photo of a young rubio and it reads in part, quote, never hire a boy to do a man's job. marco seems like a nice boy, well mannered, but bought and paid for, the retweet goes on to say that rubio doesn't have the swagger to negotiate with vladimir putin or to run the country and tells him to drink his milk and eat his cookies. that's just the latest in a line of recent attacks between the two candidates. watch this. >> by the way, rubio has the worst voting record in the united states senate. who has better hair? trump or rubio? you tell me. trump. senator rubio is a lightweight. we understand that. he wouldn't be able to do this. he wouldn't know a trade deal from any other deal. e goes ubio is a lightweight. anywhere. >> he's a very insecure person. he doesn't like to be criticized. the presidency's a tough job. you are going to be criticized.

you can't flip out every time somebody says something about you. he does. i'm not interested in the back and forth to be a member or part of the freak show. who knows what donald is trying to do. who cares? >> here now with reaction from the daily caller jamie weinstein and from the trump organization michael cohen. that's pretty harsh. marco rubio, smart, intelligent, was former speaker of the house in florida. why is this even going on this way? >> first of all, mr. trump didn't start it. and we talk about this -- >> what did marco do to start it? >> marco rubio made a comment about mr. trump. it was obviously a negative comment. >> what did he say? >> i don't remember what he said but something that trump is not a serious candidate. he is a serious candidate. going into the whole issue of the polls, the last seven polls that came out has mr. trump anywhere between 34 and 29 where they have rubio at 12 to 5. this isn't the contest. this is like a white belt versus a black belt.

>> so then if that's the case, why would he pay attention to somebody that he doesn't even view as competition? >> he doesn't view him as competition, but donald trump's a counterpuncher. if you come at him, he's going to set the table. his table is come at me and i'll come back at you and i'll hit you so hard you're going to be gone from this race. >> i'll hit you so hard that your mother will feel the vibrations. jamie, what's your reaction to all this? >> donald trump is endlessly entertaining, but i think he's attacking rubio now because he sees rubio as a real threat. michael's right, rubio is not where donald trump is in the polls but he's rising. if you look at the last debate, there was no candidate on stage other than rubio who had a mastery of issues the way rubio did and could express it in a way that was inspiring. i think donald trump sees that, is a little bit intimidated by that, especially since donald trump himself hasn't really done the policy homework to go toe to toe with marco rubio in a debate.

>> there's only one problem. whatever it is that marco rubio has done has failed the united states. we are in serious trouble. and if you want to talk about the only person that's on that entire stage that's a real dealmaker, the king of all deals, is donald trump. he's the only one that's ever created a job. marco rubio has never created a job. he's been on the government's pay since the day he finished school. he's in the pockets of big business. guys like norman brayman and others. and he can't balance his own budget. he's financially in trouble himself. and he's only been successful in getting out of trouble as a direct result of big sponsors. >> jamie? >> well, look, the trump organization has great opposition researchers. if i was working for mr. trump these are the attack lines i'd probably tell him to make because they do resonate to some degree. but the reality is if you look at the record of donald trump, what his positions are on a lot of issues and marco rubio, marco rubio -- now, look, i'm no rubio booster, but he has laid out a

very conservative foreign policy compared to donald trump where he wants to retreat from the world, he wants to retreat from the ukraine region. he doesn't want america to put a fight up there. he doesn't want to fight putin in syria. he wants to abandon the south china sea. >> i've got to stop you right there because what you say is absolutely inaccurate. first of all -- can you imagine marco rubio sitting down with the likes of vladimir putin? it's like a -- it's taking candy from a -- >> marco did predict -- it was an interesting line when he called putin a gangster and laid out exactly what he's engaged in now going in to help assad and syria and has ambitions to exert his influence in the region because of america's vacuum created by obama. he was dead right on that. >> he's not dead right about it, sean. >> yeah, he is. >> the bottom line is if in foreign policy you want to be able to get what you need, you got to be the dealmaker. you got to be donald trump. >> let me ask you this. >> vladimir putin will look at marco rubio the same way he looks at obama, like a lambchop.

>> it seems a deal that -- >> what's a lamb chop? >> it's something that he's going to -- he has no respect for and he's going to enjoy just eating our lunch, which something that nobody will get over. >> back to jamie. jamie? >> it seems like donald trump's already conceded in syria before there's any negotiation. he said he's very happy with putin going in and putting combat troops in syria and engaging in a syrian civil war which only allows the russians to get a foothold in the middle east which has been a cornerstone of american foreign policy for the last three or four decades. to keep russia out of the middle east. so it seems he's already capitulated, donald trump. >> look at how well we've done with our middle east policy over, as josh said t last 30 years. what a wonderful display of confidence by our politicians. >> that's a -- >> hold on one sec. let me tell you the one issue.

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welcome back to "hannity." so could hillary clinton's numerous scandals and continuing drop in the polls leave the door open for a well-known democrat now to jump into the race? fox and friends co-host ainsley earhardt at the big board. >> it's getting really exciting. the big question surrounding joe biden is will he enter the 2016 race? we've been following this story very closely.

according to cbs news, the vice president's decision could come as early as this week. according to the report, biden is still weighing all of his options now. but two sources say that he is leaning toward declaring his candidacy. sean, recent polls show it could be a very good decision for joe biden. according to the latest nbc/"wall street journal"/marist poll he's behind clinton by 11 points and isn't that far behind bernie sanders. the same poll also has the vp competitive in new hampshire. and sean, you have to imagine that biden would get a boost if he does in fact decide to run. it's amazing that he's already getting these numbers and he hasn't even put himself in the race yet. >> pretty amazing numbers. getting more interesting by the day. ainsley, thank you. also tonight hillary clinton is claiming that the benghazi select committee was all a setup to make her look bad. instead of investigating her role in the attacks that killed four americans here's what clinton told the "today" show earlier. >> look at the situation they

chose to exploit, to go after me for political reasons. this committee was set up, as they have admitted, for the purpose of making a partisan political issue out of the deaths of four americans. i would have never done that. if i were president and there were republicans or democrats who were thinking about that, i would have done everything to shut it down. >> now, in that same interview clinton also dodged and evaded questions about a personal server. but tonight a new report says that a trusted clinton confidant is now advising hillary to hire a criminal defense attorney in case she is indicted for failing to secure classified government documents and for lying under oath. here now to talk about the story is the author of this brand-new book "unlikable, the problem with hillary clinton" ed klein and also with us is the anchor of sinclair's full measure, sharyl attkisson is with us. all right. explain this. if her confidante and her friends are saying get a lawyer. >> yes. >> and we know the fbi is

investigating, her problem isn't really republicans, even though she is rye trying to make it that. >> absolutely. this is a guy who has been with the clintons for 30 years and has been advising them all this time. he said to me he's tearing his hair out because he cannot get hillary to understand that she's in deep trouble. he says, paraphrasing john dean, this is a cancer on her candidacy. >> wouldn't it be ironic considering her position on the watergate committee so many years ago? >> i know. yes. what he wants her to do is get some big league criminal defense attorney, maybe a republican, he said, who is -- you know, has a great reputation in washington and find out what the fbi and the attorney general's really up to so he can prepare, if necessary, to defend her and hopefully avoid her getting indicted. >> sharyl, congratulations on your new show. everyone in washington, as you know, they look at comey as a straight shooter at the fbi.

we learned last week that the fbi likely recovered the 33,000 deleted e-mail or at least some portion of them. if it's not about yoga, a wedding, a funeral or conversations with bill, but about the clinton foundation, about benghazi, she may have well -- that may be the smoking gun that could get her indicted. do you think this confidante that ed is talking about is giving her good advice? >> it's hard to say until we know what's in the e-mails. some of her friends don't even know what could be in the e-mails and are hedging their bets when they discuss it privately. i think her big concern is she knows through my information, internal polling that she's done, that they do see the benghazi issue as legitimate issue. these are republicans and democrat voters do see this as a legitimate question to ask, and that's why she has to be so defensive on this point.

>> all right, she is defensive. remember, two weeks ago "the new york times" was saying they developed a new strategy, that they were going to show a more likable hillary, a funnier hillary, a warmer hillary. and she shows great indignation and outrage today. will the real hillary please stand up at some point? >> i think we know from experience that when she displays a persona it seems means that people like media matters or her other advisers have indicated through polling or whatever means they use, they've indicated to her that this would be a good thing for her to do, that maybe this will help her among her potential voters. >> yeah. >> the issue of biden coming in, i've talked to, again, top well-placed democrats who say that the only thing they think biden has is offering more of the same, which is not, as democrats said, a very good selling point, that a continuation of the obama administration would not be very popular, but at the same time you have hillary wrestling with these questions and bernie sanders who some of the democrat establishment do not want in there.

so they're -- grappling with issues as is the republican side. >> so we know in recent polls that 60% of americans find her dishonest and untrustworthy, and they believe she is lying, particularly about the e-mail server in benghazi. she tried to explain why voters don't like or trust her this morning, and here's what she said. >> i believe by the end of this campaign people will know that i will fight for them and they can count on me. >> it's surprising to hear you say that. you've been in politics for 20 years. not like people don't know you. i mean, if you just get real about it, are you having a problem connecting? >> well, i don't know. you can ask me that and, obviously, it's not the nicest question to hear because i feel like i have a long record of working on the issues that i believe are important to people and i'm going to continue to do that. >> 60% of americans think she's a liar. >> that's right. >> untrustworthy, dishonest. can you win with those? >> i don't think so. i don't think so.

i looked at a number of titles for my new book. i was thinking of shameless as the title of the book, then i realized that all politicians in washington are shameless. >> that's probably true. a lot of them anyway. >> but the truth of the matter is she's not likable. i cannot think of a recent president who got elected who was not likable. >> i got to believe, sharyl, that's really a key component. will americans vote for someone they think is dishonest and not likable? how do you overcome that perception? those numbers are six out of ten voters, democrats and republicans. >> i'm not a political analyst, but i will just tell you anecdotally the answer is yes, they will vote for somebody like that. i have acquaintances who have told me that they have said not nice things what they think about mrs. clinton's honesty, and in the same breath say but i want to vote for her because i've been told by acquaintances she is a woman, or i want to vote for her because i could

never see myself voting for a republican. so i do thing, yes, people are very ideologically entrenched or have other reasons. >> but she doesn't have the broad appeal of, say, her husband, or the new democrat, or the warmth of her husband or the speech giving capabilities of barack obama. so she's going to lose a portion of those people certainly. >> i even think some of those people, people aren't really talking much about this, are actually interested in donald trump. again, i've had friends who normally vote democrat including women democrats and african-americans tell me they're crossing over to vote for trump this year. so i think anything's possible. it's really hard to say. >> all right, sharyl, thank you. all bets are off. ed, congrats in the new book. if you had a couple of the teachers or somebody with guns in that room you would have been a hell of a lot better off. >> gun control only works for normal law-abiding citizens. it doesn't work for crazies. >> republican presidential candidates weigh in. we'll check in with bo dietl and

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attorney eric guster and former nypd detective bo dietl. you know, eric, the thing that stands out to me, all these politicians that want gun control, they usually have their own security guards. now know what those security guards have? guns. so the only people that are going to be left defenseless are average american citizens that should have the right to keep and to bear arms, and it should not be infringed upon. why do thee politicize these things so quickly like obama did? >> i was disappointed with the way this was politicized. weapon this guy who shot these people and killed these people. he would have passed any background check on earth. so we have to be careful to not overreact when -- >> so the guy you voted for twice, his very proposals wouldn't have done a darn thing to stop oregon, is that what you're saying? i'm saying it another way. why don't you say it. his proposals wouldn't have stopped a thing. >> say it, eric.

>> say it. >> i refuse to say that. >> truth to power. >> i'm not going to say that. >> truth to power. >> on your show. >> come on. >> but this is not a gun control issue. this should not have been. and i'm very disappointed that it was made into this political football. i was very disappointed. >> first of all, sean, i know our good friend and this great attorney eric has a carry permit, a conceal and carry permit. so me he believes in right to bear arms. >> you're buggs him on national tv. >> but i love eric. and i love his thoughts. when it's right, it's right. when it's wrong, it's wrong. >> these politicians would take away our rights. >> but the problem here is we had something that occurred. did you watch over the weekend? did you see rahm emanuel jump in there? and i'm disgusted with this. i'm disgusted with all these people getting shot. well, they're not getting shot with nra guns. they're getting shot with illegal guns. you want to jump ugly, let's jump ugly with the illegal guns on our streets. of these supposedly safe cities.

maybe if there is more people with carry permits in chicago, maybe there would be less killings. >> how about we put former detectives like yourself in schools. you hire jobs, the kids are safe in the classroom, and these people know that they're going to be challenged if they go on one of these rampages. >> we all know one thing. if there was somebody who was on their security personnel, if he had done his job properly, the shot count would have been down. they would have reacted to it immediately. >> lives would have been saved. >> people's lives would have been said. >> i agree with you. >> let's say this crazy could have gotten gasoline. he could have killed people other way. >> there is a million ways. >> to use the gun and gun control at this stage is very irresponsible. >> all right. checkmate, eric. admit that voting for obama twice was a mistake. say it. >> no. i'm a winner. obama is a winner. and i voted for him twice, absolutely. but i disagree on this issue. >> but people with licensed guns are winners also, eric. coming up, we need your

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welcome back to "hannity." it's time for tonight's question of the day. do you think that joe biden can beat hillary clinton? i actually do. go to facebook.com/sean hannity, @sean hannity on twitter. now it's time for our ask sean segment. you've been sending in your questions that you like to ask me. here is tonight's big question. >> hi, sean. my name is bill peterman. i'm a cpa and a financial adviser in springfield, illinois. the question i have for the next election is how is the next president going to be able to take care of all the entitlements and the level of debt that america has now without raising taxes on the middle class? >> all right. as a cpa, bill, great question. you know there is only two ways to increase money that you have for the government. number one, you got to spend less. i like the penny plan. elim flate baseline budgeting.

in other words, built-in increases the government projects every year. you keep the budget at the same level. and then you cut one penny out of every dollar every year for six years, and you actually bring the budget in balance. now, with that said, you also have to grow the economy, bring in more revenues. the single best thing we can do in my opinion, make america a corporate tax haven. lower the corporate rates that will bring money from overseas. a lot of that repatriated money to come back in. and thirdly, energy is the answer. we make america energy independent, it's going to bring a lot of revenue into the government, create a lot of jobs. people that are now benefitting from welfare or food stamps, they'll now have good jobs. they'll be taxpayers. it will have a huge ripple effect on the economy. anyway, good question. thank you. now, if you a question for me go, to twitter. use the #ask sean. we'll put you on video like bill. be sure to tune in tomorrow night 6:00 p.m. eastern to the

fox news channel. donald trump will it is down with bret baier at 6:00 p.m. tomorrow night right here on fox. that's all the time we have left this evening. we hope you'll set your dvr so you never miss an episode. we take attendance. it hurts our feelings a lot when you're not here. thanks for being with us. see you back here. tonight, "on the record," donald trump and nothing is off limits from the evil mass shooting at a community college in oregon to dr. ben carson's sudden surge in at least one poll and even in weekend saturday night life donald trump. hitting hard on a wide range of topics. one thing is 100 percent certain. the billionaire businessman never shies away from speaking his mind. a short time ago donald trump went "on the record." donald, nice to talk to you. >> hi, greta. >> donald, if you were with the, when we had another shooting much like we had in oregon how would have you responded to it or what's your sort of plan or strategy to stop these shootings? >> well, greta, i would have