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is. go to our page on facebook or twitter and tell what's your response. set your dvr to record "hannity" the series each night at 10:00. start your day with fox and friends each day at 9. we'll see you back here tomorrow night. good night. we still don't have consistent policies that all states, all cities and all hospitals are following. ebola is real. it's dangerous. it's contagious. what happens if it hits your hometown? who is going to make your decisions?
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that the. >> i think it's common sense. >> a person could require a mandatory 21-day quarantine. >> people who are asymptomatic do not tryst transmit. >> i am the governor of the state of new york. and my number one job is to protect the people of the state of new york. >> nurse kaci hickox has been in isolation in newark since friday. she says being treated like a criminal. >> the minute she was no longer symptomatic, she was released. >> many like kaci hickox do is making a commitment to volunteer her time. it is service that is deserving of praise and respect. and having her sit in a tent for two or three days doesn't cover that. >> we need to find a way when they come home that they are treated like conquering heroes and not stigmatized for the tremendous work they have done. >> i want to be safer than the cdc says. >> there are other steps that you can protect the american people based on the scientific evidence. >> i disagree with the cdc. >> go with the signs.
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urksz so far nine states have issued stricter guidelines for those returning from the ebola hot zones than the cdc. should we have inconsistent policies? should president obama step? governor sarah palin joins us. good evening, governor. >> thank you, greta. >> governor, it seems first of all, where do you fall ine but, see, this is par for the course that obama's incompetency, his administration's incompetency is really shining bright in this one. if only president obama would put america first. this time. we know that the most efficient and effective level of government is that which is closest to the people, obviously state government, leadership there is more connected and much more efficient and effective than far off bubble, washington, d.c. trying to call the shots for these governors. there is a void of leadership here. and the governors need to step up and step in. >> all right. well, governor christie and
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governor cuomo whether one agrees with them or not they did step up. governor quinn of illinois as well has said it. if you were still governor of alaska, what would do you? >> you know, i would talk to the other governors. and i betcha we would come to the conclusion that you can't trust the obama administration to really do much of anything right so, yes, we would take it upon ourselves to exercise our tenth amendment right and that is states rights, taking over some of these issues, especially that is proven that the federal government isn't able to do. but, also, a big picture here, greta, that i don't hear a lot of people talking about right now is we know that liberals will capitalize on any crisis. in fact, this administration, some characters within it have advocated for and even advertised their desire to capitalize on crisis. they are not going to let it go to waste. those are solenski tactics, rules for radicals, one of those rules is yes you capitalize on crisis. a fear mode that they don't
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mind the people of america being in so that the people of america would think that they have to rely on big brother government to answer the questions for them and solve the problem. >> i have heard every expert in the area of medicine on ebola saying that you are only contagious if you you are showing some symptoms. i have heard nobodydy suggest -- all a though i know people are panic strickenned somebody around that area treating ebola patients. what do we do basically quarantine everyone who comes off knowing that the experts say that they are not contagious if they don't exhibit any symptoms? if we really at the present time to make sure this virus is contained and cannot rely on the federal government getting their stuff together and getting politics out of this issue and allowing the medical community to tell us what it is that needs to be done in each state with each airplane landing that would have passengers in there, perhaps coming from west africa or another nation
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that is suffering from ebola, we're going to have to demand of our leadership in washington and on the state level to get politics out of this and allow the medical community to tell us factually what needs to be done. >> i don't even know if this is politics. i think it's more asleep at the wheel. in some ways i don't blame the governors for trying to just do something about it because, look, last march, the world health organization warned about ebola. they did it again in august. and, you know, it does require leadership to set some sort of standard. this is the problem. this is what we are going to do. this is what we have. instead, we are playing catch up this whole time and throwing everybody into chaos and people into panic and we can't each make good decisions because everybody is so freaked out because we have no sort of leadership on this. >> that's exactly right. and this isn't the first time that we have encountered ebola. look in the last 40 years, how many times this cropped up. along with other viruses, too. remember, samaritan's purse,
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the doctor volunteering there. that was a long time ago relatively speaking, greta, where the issue was at the forefront of america's mind because you were covering it and others were covering this doctor who was going to be suffering from ebola. you would have even thought those weeks ago that the obama administration would have gotten their stuff together and been able to help advise, of course, american citizens what we're going to do. remember, too, this is an issue, though, of not -- we don't want any level of government to practice overreach because what, again, a liberal administration would want to do is promise the people that if you give up a little bit of your freedom, we will give you a little more security and in the meantime you will lose both. state level, federal level. we have to make sure that it's scientifically based. medically based. solution to the problems we are facing with ebola. not allow politics to creep in and the capitalization on a crisis because we're going to lose our freedom and a
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security if we continue down this roads. >> governor, thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >> and governors and the white house are practically at war over ebola. is the government that dysfunctional when it can't get on the same page with the. joining us our guests. byron, like nobody is on first. >> i think the president has a policy to not have a policy about this. because i think he does think that the top priority for for the u.s. government in fighting ebola is to fight it in west after infantry -- africa. >> the governors have a smaller horizon on this. they want to protect the people in their states. by the way the pentagon has a different horizon because we now know that the pentagon is subjecting u.s. military people who have come from the hot zones in west africa, putting them in some sort of isolation before they return to the united states. but i think what you're
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seeing this kind of crazy quilt of each state doing its own thing is a result of the president's policy to not have a policy. >> alexander, the whole idea of being the leader is to be the one in charge. this requires a comprehensive solution. we have to fight it in africa and fight it here but we all have to be on the same page. >> you can fault the president for not having a plan to keep the governors on the same page. at the same time, if you look at the jockeying that we are have seen from governors over the past few weeks, he they are clearly, you know, they have politics at play at well in a way that. >> in what way? >> for instance, governor cuomo who on friday stood bye bye side governor christie and expressed support for strict quarantine rolled that back and basically said that healthcare workers can self-quarantine after faced criticism not just from democrats and republicans but his opponent in a tough re-election fight. it was clear there was some consideration about the potential backlash might face there i think that's informing a lot of governors across the nation. >> look, i understand why people are frustrated with the obama administration.
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i'm frustrated with them. i understand by people are concerned and worried and even afraid as ebola. so as me and members of my family. you are an attorney. step back and think about what we are cooking can and listen what the governor is saying there. we are seizing people's rights paced on a threat that right now has killed one person. you heard the governor saying you have to be careful of the government because it likes to take away your freedoms from you in promising your security. that's what we are doing here, we are taking away. >> ron, i asked about the question. if you don't have the symptoms you are supposedly not contagious. the lack of policy that's put people into a full scale panic which is why that nurse who came in with no hours of sleep on that plane. >> which is my point. when we lose faith with our institutions we do draconian dangerous things. when we take a nurse who is not symptomatic and tested negative twice and we take away your civil liberties. we are on a slippery slope. >> that's a lack of leadership at the top. that's the problem. >> but, when we have people like sarah palin saying we need to quarantine people even when they're testing negative, we he all have to
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be responsible. think about where this would lead. be very easy for the government to come up with another crisis or threat more pernicious than one person dying and seizing our guns a and liberty. it's a slippery slope. >> it's a situation where healthcare worker comes from hot zone where she has had contacts with patients. she has a fever, and you have to do something. now, if you come back and you have absolutely no signs or symptoms of anything, maybe you are told to self-monitor. >> she tested negative. >> after that. >> no, she tested negative twice. >> she is taken there first with a fever and that's something that healthcare officials have to be concerned about. if you if you don't trust government it's scary what we are doing here. i'm not defending the obama administration you know me better than that we are taking away rights. >> we need leadership from the top to tell us what we are doing so we are not all fighting with each other. >> i agree. the answer for us isn't to say quarantine everybody. >> answer from the top. panel, i did take the last word on it thank you.
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isn't just doctors and nurses and travelers at risk it's also the military. growing number of troops being deployed to the ebola infected area. congresswoman blackburn joins us. what is the plan for our military? >> well, we are hearing that they are goods going to face a 21 day quarantine. we're very concerned about that i was at fort campbell last week and met with the command team. got some great information. came away with at love questions and have a letter in to the dod secretary. secretary hagel right now trying to get some answers there but we are hearing a 21 day quarantine is going to be an order for all of our military. >> how do you figure that? throw one nurse in a tent. 1500 over there 1500 little plastic tents to put them or i mean exactly, has anyone thought about this? it sounds great that's the problem with this administration no one thinks it through.
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how are we doing this? has anyone planned it. >> no. that's part of the problem. we don't know the scope of the mission. we do not know exactly how long they are going to be there. we do not know what the process is going to be. when these men and women come home from that deployment, they need to be able to be home be with those troochings. if we are going to fight we would quarantine in west africa and any of those individuals who were citizens of those countries in the hot zone that want to exit, they would go through a quarantine. >> put 1500 of our military in one room in west africa where they spread it to each other? do we get 1500 plastic tents? i just don't know how to do. this right. that's exactly right. what you need to look at is the opportunity for something like a forward operating base. our men and women needs to know how this is going to be dealt with they need to know what level of risk they're going to face.
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if they are out working on a construction site. that may be one level of risk. if they are going to be be training medical personnel that are liberians that would be another level of risk. we're concerned about who is vetting those individuals. we're concerned about the. >> let me tell you something scary. dr. brantly will be joining us soon. i have spoken to him a number of times. he believes that he did not get ebola taking care of ebola patients. he thought that he got it taken care of other patients that weren't in the ebola section. this, i mean, and our members of the military will necessarily come in contact with people. i'm hoping they don't get ebola. but, you know, it is -- it's infectious virus you are right. that's why we are seeking some of these answers. health security. personal security of some of our troops is going to be imperative. there are answers about this mission that we want to know the families want to know. we are in very close touch with those families. you need that comprehensive
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strategy that you just mentioned. and you do not have it. you can't treat the military one way and treat individuals that are health workers coming out of the region another way. and, liberian sierra lee own guinea citizens another way. >> totally agree. leadership at the top to tell us what we are doing and how we are going to do it. congresswoman, thank you. >> thank you. >> this is a fox news alert. just moments ago, test results came back for a 5-year-old child who had ebola symptoms. fox news senior correspondent rick leventhal is outside new york's belleview hospital, rick? >> greta, it's good the family of that a-year-old boy who was brought lehr to bellview hospital last night with ebola-like symptoms. the test results came back negative but that boy will remain in isolation here at belleview and be retested in the days ahead to make sure he is in the clear. also tetsed for more common respiratory viruses.
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returning from new guinea in west africa. one of the hot zones. they dispatched ambulances with e.m.s. workers in hazmat suits. his family also placed in quarantine will likely remain home for the next three weeks just in case. so, dr. craig spencer remains new york's first and only ebola patient still being treated at bellevue in isolation in serious but stable condition, possibly helped by a blood transfusion from nancy writebol, one of the nurses who contracted ebola and survived. doctors believe the mazda that treatments are helping these victims recover. then there is nurse casey who was released today and on her way to maine after being held in isolation in newark over the weekend. she was detained friday after returning from treating ebola patients and said she had no symptoms and said she was held in captive in prison like conditions.
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she will be quarantined at home now and the debate how best to handle these possible ebola patients continues coast to coast, greta. >> rick, thank you. great news to for that childs. to gawrp teen wanted or not to gawrn teen. leaders can't get on the same page. no one seems to be in charge. all of it starts when dr. returns from west africa. spent a few days out in public before getting a fever and testing positive for ebola. tonight "on the record" retraces his steps in those hours just before he checked into the hospital. >> testing is a term that a patient here in new york city had tested positive for ebola. >> a doctor treating ebola patients in west africa can a bringing the deadly virus to america's largest city. >> this is new york city. it's one ever the capitals of the world. >> dr. craig spencer self-monitoring, taking his temperature every few hours but despite the risk, the doctor ren temperatured out into the city just hours before checking in at bellevue hospital in midtown, manhattan.
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but are people at risk? "on the record" senior producer justin wells lives just blocks away from dr. spencer. he hit the ground to trace the doctor's steps. >> dr. spencer lived on this floor. residents here are very concerned. maybe it's a good idea when you come home you are in garb -- in quarantine for the incubation period. >> lives across the hall from dr. spencer. is he not happy with the government's response. >> living near a person with ebola does not put someone at risk. >> it's not sealed off and still not sealed off. >> mayor de blasio went to great lengths to say it was sealed off. >> it was not sealed off. >> now a hazmat team sanitizing dr. spencer's apartment. >> they have already put down some chemicals in order to clean out any bacteria or anything in the area. then two people are going to enter the apartment in hazmat suits and they are going to wipe down everything some neighbors
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are ready to move out. >> more than likely when when my lease is up. >> may be your last. >> the risk goes beyond dr. spencer's apartment. the day before his diagnosis the doctor take as three mile drive down. he walks through harlem a densely populated neighborhood. 5:30 p.m. he leaves harlem and leads to brooklyn on the new york city subway. >> >> dr. spencer rode this train on the eve of showing symptoms of the deadly ebola virus. millions of people take the new york city subway every day. 15 minutes from his home. is he all the way in midtown. >> his final destination? a bowling alley all the way across the city. >> he we are at the gutter in williamsburg, brooklyn where dr. spencer showed up at about 6:00 p.m. on wednesday on the eve of being checked into the hospital. >> 8:30 p.m. ', hours before testing positive for the ebola virus. dr. spencer heads back to harlem. >> dr. spencer came out on the eve before he was
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checked into the hospital of this bowling alley. he held an uber on his phone and then made his way back to upper manhattan. >> and straight ahead, dr. kent bradley the first american to get infected with ebola survive. what is it like to have ebola. dr. brantly will tell you coming up. also a man deported from america twice now accused of executing two sheriff's deputies. shooting both in the head. how did this man get back into the united states twice? laura ingraham in here. >> senator rand paul is here to go "on the record." you owned your car for four years. you named it brad. you loved brad. anand then you totaled him. you two had been through everything together. two boyfriends. three jobs. you're like "nothing can replace brad!" then liberty mutual calls. and you break into your happy dance.
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another american doctor sits in a new york hospital
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in isolation fighting ebola. and tonight the first american doctor who contracted ebola is going "on the record." what it was like for him the day he stepped off that plane in atlanta. here is dr. kent brantly "on the record." >> patient for seven weeks and i woke up on a wednesday morning just feeling bad. i felt warm. nothing specific. and, in fact, i didn't even meet the fever criteria that we use for screening patients. but i knew i just didn't feel right. >> so what did you do? >> i stayed home that morning. i called my team leader, dr. lance pyler and i said i think i need to stay home if i felt better by lunchtime. we agreed to touch base later in the day to see 50's getting better. >> doctor showed: so, fever
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got worse. it did. lunchtime that day my temperature was 101.4. over the next couple of days climbed to 104.5 and really persisted for 12 or 13 days without coming down to normal temperature. >> i take it you or you suspected you had ebola? >> i did. i didn't think i had ebola. but i was not naive enough to think it was impossible for me to have ebola. >> then your condition continued to deteriorate? >> it did. i stayed in liberia for nine or ten days after i got sick. and by that 8th or 9th day i was near death. >> what -- i mean, you have horrible diarrhea, right? you lose all your fluids, i mean, you hear these horrible stories about people essentially bleeding out. >> i had almost every classic symptom of ebola except existential bleeding. i had the high fever, headaches, muscle aches, extreme fatigue just being really weak and tired.
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but i also had blood in my diarrhea. i vomited blood. i had a rash that's classic of ebola. my eyes were bloodshot and red. all the things that you think of when you think of ebola except maybe i didn't have a nose bleed or anything like that. >> now, a doctor who gave you the z map has been on our show as well. did you even know that you were getting it? it was experimental drug? did they say to you we have something that we could try. >> we discussed it a few days before they gave it to me. when they found out that it might be available we discussed it i was able at that time still with a clear mind to say if that's available, yes, i would be willing to receive it understanding that we didn't know if it would kill me or make me better. but then the day that they actually gave it to me, i was so sick and dr. lance said, kent, i want to give you the antibodies and i said okay.
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>> and the doctor gave it to you. >> she was the one who was actually in my room taking care of me at that time. >> we all watched when you landed. and the fact that you could walk, that was a big deal. do you remember walking off the plane? i do. i had a high buffer. a lot of people asked me about this. why did you walk out of that ambulance? what message were you trying to send? >> greta, i had no idea that people were watching me. >> here you are walking. you are walking not at a fast clip, the fact that you were vertical was a big deal. >> the person who deserves the credit for that happening right then is that paramedic into was walking with me. he said do you think you can walk into the hospital? i said how far is it? he said well, it's just right here. it's not very far but there are some steps. i said how many steps? more or less than the plane he? said well, it's more than the plane but think are not as steep, not as big, he said if you can't do it, that's fine. we will wheel you around another entrance. if you can walk we are right
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next to the door i said okay. let's do it. >> so why does dr. brantly think thomas duncan who died of ebola did not sur is revive at a dallas hospital? much more of my interview with dr. brantly go to gretawire.com. get that answer and more. up next, two police officers executed both shot in the face. their alleged killer illegal immigrant and it gets worse. he was deported twice but he got back in and killed twice. that's next. also, father takes his son to a bronchos game thursday night and at halftime the father vanishes. "on the record" investigates his bizarre disappearance coming up. when it comes to good nutrition...i'm no expert. that would be my daughter -- hi dad. she's a dietitian. and back when i wasn't eating right, she got me drinking boost. it's got a great taste, and it helps give me the nutrition i was missing. helping me stay more like me. [ female announcer ] boost complete nutritional drink has 26 essential vitamins and minerals, including calcium and vitamin d to support strong bones and 10 grams of protein
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with it california deputies shot dead. homicide detective junior. man illegally in the united states with twice the deported for criminal conviction. but managed to get back into the u.s.a. twice. that's twice. laura ingraham joins us. hottest show on radio. lauer, how does this happen this guy gets back in the country twice. >> 1997, he was 17 years of age. he was caught selling narcotics. deported back to mexico. 17. then fast forward four years 2001. this spanned multiple administrations started in the, goes to bush now in obama administration. 2001, arrested again, put authorities were murky on what was he arrested for? i presume narcotics but we don't know.
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then he was deported back to mexico again. at some point in time he drossed the border. we don't know. when again, the authorities don't have any information. he operated under multiple identities. he has at least two different identities. and the police at this point believe they know who he is from the fingerprint data base. they are referring to one particular name although he has used aliases in the past. this is what happens all too often in our country and gets little attention. convicted criminals either get deported come back to commit other crimes. or they are released from federal custody for special circumstances as we saw last year and thousands of criminal alien, some violent criminal aliens, including kidnappers, men accuse of sexual asought and people even people charged with homicide come back in our commie crimes. very few people in the media will touch this. >> how you cannot touch it? two police officers are
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executed. >> dead. >> separately within -- wasn't even the same incident. one's father was a police officer deputy 26 years to the day was executed himself. >> apparently their families don't count because we have lives turned upside down and lost in this country almost every day sadly at the hands of illegal aliens. it doesn't mean before everyone says are you saying every illegal immigrant commits a crime? no, i'm not. i am saying when you have a porous border and sketchy immigration enforcement and aren't serious about it across the board you are going to have who are risk circumstances. republicans where are they on this i haven't heard any except jeff sessions. >> what do you think about this south carolina democratic state senator vincent sheheen called governor nikki haley something. wait until you hear it is he running against hailey for governor and this is what he called her. >> we are going to he is court wore out the door. we are going to escort her out the door.
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[ laughter ] >> think about it y'all. >> called a woman governor a wore -- whore out the door. he did try to walk it back as a a gaffe. >> we are going to escort whore out the door. we're going to escort her out the door. >> >> imagine if you or i said something like this on national -- you made a slip, you would be -- i would be be horrified oh my gosh i did not mean to say something like that. ha ha ha isn't it funny. the little smirking and laughing. nikki haley gone through vicious attacks in the past. and this is kind of a ha ha, isn't it funny. just reminds me what they did with the palin deal, palin tape. and a ridiculing bristol palin or michelle malkin. >> where are the women on this? republican women? democratic women, everybody,
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calling a woman governor. >> imagine if rick perry said something like that or scott brown in new hampshire. they would not let him get away with ha ha ha ha. why didn't you shut down those people who were laughing? why didn't you say something about how they shouldn't laugh. boy didn't you pick up the phone and call governor so and so? >> i want to every woman who has used the mantra war on woman to stand up and defend governor nikki haley? it doesn't matter if she a republican. >> conservative women, you are smart, they aren't really women to left wing idealogues they are second class trash because they collaborate with the enemy. the enemy happens to be conservatives or the tea party. >> did he apologize to her? >> i didn't see it if he did. i missed the apology. >> he anyways,. >> conservative women aren't real women to the left they don't count. great being here. >> great radio show. thank you, lauer. >> thank you, love you. >> father and son went to last thursday's game. then the father suddenly disappears at halftime. show one has seen him since.
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fox denver reporter mark meredith joins us. mark, absolutely no word? what happened with this father. >> greta, that's a great question. that's what everybody has been trying to figure out since thursday night's game. as you mentioned, this father was at the game with three other people, including his 20-year-old son and then he just vanishes during halftime. today denver police told me that they have witness spotted the man during the third quarter. also from a small town in colorado. he did not have his car down here. he also did not have his cell phone at the game. is he a 53-year-old guy. he wasn't supposed to be very tech savvy so they didn't have any way to get ahold of him. the family that with as with ash with him didn't get suspicious until the end of the game. thinking he was out getting a beer or somewhere else on the concourse. sports authority field. they are starting to get desperate. reached out to media in denver. working with investigators. right now they just don't
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have a lot to go off of. >> mark, thank you. it certainly is a bizarre story. thank you, mark. >> and up next, senator rand paul right here and "on the record." senator rand paul is making a big midterm push. who is he fighting for. senator paul will tell you. plus he has something to say about secretary of state hillary clinton going to his home state of kentucky this saturday. that's next. and we are going to take you to the scene where college co-ed hannah graham's remains were found. we are looking for clues left by her killer. the "on the record" team just got access to the
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getting dirty on the campaign trail. trying to win every last vote. election day with one week away. >> isis gaining ground. terrorists committing mass murder. ebola inside the u.s. americans alarmed about national security. what's president obama doing? making plans to bring terrorists to our country. ignoring the constitution,
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congress and the american people. november 4th obama's policies are on the ballot. vote to keep u.s. terrorists off u.s. soil. vote republican. >> senator rand paul joins us. before we get to the question, president obama's foreign policy on the ballot. you have an ad coming out for senator pat roberts of kansas. not kentucky but kansas. you are going there tomorrow. why? >> well, the thing is i think most american people would be horrified to know that their tax dollars are sent to countries that late us. so i had an amendment that would have cut off aid to the muslim brotherhood and not that many people supported it. surprisingly up here. pat roberts was one who was a strong enough conservative say, you know what? we shouldn't send any tax dollars to countries who hate us and burn our flagging. >> are you going there tomorrow to campaign for him. >> i will be there tomorrow putting on had ad. six figure any kansas. we produced this ad and it will be on display starting tomorrow in kansas. >> it's a tight race right now. at least one of the sunday nbc marist policy down by one which is the margin of error with mr. ormond, it is
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close. people are fooled into thinking he is independent. i see him as someone who isn't being forth right. is he going to vote for harry reid? if he votes for harry reid that means you will never get any taxes lowered and repealed and frankly the economy will still continue to stagnate as far as i'm concerned. >> whether president obama's policies are on the ballot. >> i think absolutely. even he said it the other day. i think this will be a referendum. i think the reason why this election is going to go so poorly for the democrats is it's going to be a referendum on the president's policies and frankly, everything he has touched this year has turned to stone. we still have less jobs in ken can ken than we had six years ago. so, we're not too happy in kentucky. make a difference in kentucky as well. >> what happens if the republican does take the senate. take the house, assuming you keep the house, and the senate what happens then? >> one thing you will see and i see senator mcconnell
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at his word we will pass legislation. we will put legislation on the desk of the president and we will see frankly what he will do. some of it frankly will be part way towards what a lot of people in the country want. will there be some immigration reform? yeah. will there be tax reform? yes. will there be regulatory reform? yeah. maybe bringing some jobs home from overseas by lowering taxes and letting american companies bring jobs home? i think all of that will be put on the president's desk and we will find out is the president going to be a lowered or is the president going to be obstructionist. >> back to home state on saturday kentucky. hillary clinton is going there to campaign very close race between senator minority leader mcconnell and alice lund grin grimes. she is well liked in kentucky, right? >> a little too toottle too little too late. there has never been a majority of kentuckians who
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are that fond of the clintons. at love water has passed under that bridge since then. i don't think they will have any influence on the race. she can't decide who she voted for for president. this she won't admit she voted for president obama, i don't think she has much of a chance in kentucky. >> close race right now. in all the polls. nice to he see you, sir. >> thank you. >> uva co-ed hanna graham disappeared in late december leaving her parents in sleuth despair. friday gruesome news. her remains found and identified. tonight "on the record" gives access to the crime seen where her remains were found. we are looking for clues. that's next. what do you think about the nurse who arrived friday from west africa and angry at her treatment at newark airport? [ male announcer ] take zzzquil and sleep like...a baby? like a bear? how about like you're on vacation... in this place! [ dolphin chittering ] sleep like you haven't seen your bed in days...
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missing uva co-ed hannah graham remains found in a wooded area. former d.c. homicide detective griff jenkins and ted williams investigating. >> here we are on the side of the road where are hannah graham's remains were found. the body was found in the woods behind this cabin which is part of the larger property. this property is for sale. it's owned by a grandma. and we are now getting a first look. walk me through what investigators may have been interested in. what they were looking for and what they were trying to process here. >> if you are dragging a body, you are going to leave certain indentations, with your shoe. if you are carrying a body, there is going to be hairs and fibers that are going to be left on your clothing
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hannah was not petite. jesse is a big guy but hannah is not at petite. >> hannah was approximately 6 feet tall right around that. she was rather tall. and if you had to carry her back here, that's certainly carrying a pretty large person back here, especially a person who is limp and perhaps unconscious. so, that is the reason that you would look for the various inten accommodation. if you were carrying, you would see a pulling of the debris, almost a path? >> absolutely. >> did it would have been gone from the small cabin to where the body was found? >> griff, if you are pulling the body, you are dragging the body. you are going to leave a path but, at the same time,
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you are going to leave physical evidence because as you are doing this, you are shoes, are emerged into the soil. and then you look under the shoes, every item, every item of clothing, every shoe that the authorities know that jesse matthew may have had in his possession, they are checking those shoes because what they want, griff, is they want to be able to find this kind of sole, this kind of material on the clothing of jesse matthew under his automobile. forensically scrubbing those things to try to find a nexus between this area and jesse matthew. >> ted, do we have any sense for whether she was covered
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up? hid in anything. creek bed. it's not a creek bed but could she have been under these leaves over here kind of covered up? or was she just out in the open? >> it's my understanding that the deputy sheriff and his team that found her found her out in the open. they observed skeletal remains and observed items of clothing in this area. >> and a nurse thrown into mandatory quarantine in new jersey is out but angry about how she was trrrrrr [ female announcer ] we help make secure financial tomorrows a reality
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wrazing lahave a flow is moving and threatening a population of a town. closing in on the town's
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main roadway. people in the town are facing evacuation. fox will continue tracking this breaking news story let's' all go off-the-record for answer m kaci hickox is not a terrorist. she is not a shoe bomber but a nurse who went to sierra leon. tried to stop ebola from spreading. she risked her life. she obviously has a big heart or she would not be doing this type of work. i have been to refugee camps and cholera camps. those volunteers work 24/7 in the worst possible conditions. my guess when nurse hickox landed at newark airport she was worn out physically and mentally. no doubt had flown all night. then greeted by dysfunctional and panic stricken government. instead of being thanked. she was treated like a criminal. yeah she got mad. do you blame her? i blame president obama and lesser degree governor chris christie. had nurse hickox been
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tweeted with the respect she was due instead of a person with the plague i suspect she may not have gotten mad. she may have understood the panic. why the pan nick? presidentgets a good share of tt blame. he didn't do thinks job. he sat on his hands and ignored the world health organization in march and again in august. if he was doing his jobs, he would have put strong rules and policies in effect to meet the predictable crisis. instead we have chaos. that is what nurse hickox walked into when she got off that plane and that's my off-the-record comment tonight. thank you for being with us. see you again tomorrow night right here at 7:00 p.m. eastern. if you can't watch live, you know what to do. dvr. fox news go on the fox news app. watch this any time where fox news go.com. check it out. right now though, go to gretawire.com and answer. this should people return be gawrn to an end or not? >> tell me what you think of my off-the-reported and the
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nurse and how she was tweeted when she wound up at newark airport next weekend. up next, o'reilly factor, good night from washington, d.c. see you tomorrow night at 7:00 p.m. eastern. >> this is a different breed of cat. >> no, really, it is not bad or good. it is just different. they are really, really different. >> and finally, an adorable husky puppy trapped in a tiny bowl on live tv. see the incredible conclusion that everyone is going to be talking about next. none of these stories on "red eye" tonight. >> let's welcome our guests.

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