page where we post original content and videos. we are back here next sunday with the latest buzz. s you twee. we're out of time, unfortunately, so i'm going to retweet, share many of those. "fox news sunday" is next. >> i'm chris wallace. quarantine for medical workers returning from africa. and new jersey governor chris christie in his first sunday show interview this year. >> i feel confident that we're doing everything that we should be doing and we have this situation under control. >> a doctor in new york is the latest case as two dallas nurses are declared ebola-free. >> i'm on my way back to recovery, even as i reflect on how many others have not been so fortunate. >> we'll get the latest developments and we'll talk with one of the government's point men leading the fight against

ebola. dr. anthony fauci. then, chris christie hits the campaign trail for gop candidates across the country. we'll ask the governor how he thinks republicans will do in 2014 and whether he'll run for president in 2016. chris christie, it's a "fox news sunday" exclusive. plus, two attacks in canada and a violent assault against police in new york stoke fears of lone wolf terrorism. >> isil has demonstrated a capacity to use social media and other aspects of modern technology to try to radicalize citizens in other countries. >> our sunday group weighs in. all right now on "fox news sunday." >> and hello again from fox news in washington. three states, new york, new jersey and illinois, have now ordered mandatory quarantine for travelers from west africa after

working with ebola patients. in a few minutes we'll talk with gov new jersey governor chris christie. first, fox news senior correspondent is outside bellevue hospital in new york with the latest on that doctor and the response. rick? >> reporter: chris, dr. craig spencer's condition has worsened somewhat, as expected since he arrived here at bellevue, new york's first ebola patient has now gastrointernal symptoms. he's receiving viral mrplasma therapy. his fiancee was returned home but she'll be in quarantine for 21 days, as well as two friends. city workers have been working overtime to assure new yorkers were safe, after dr. spencer rode a subway, went bowling in brooklyn the night he developed a fever and was rushed to the

hospital. the bowling alley was entirely sani holes of the ball and declared a safe. and the new york governor had meat balls where the doctor ate. a nurse returning from west africa after treating ebola patients was placed in quarantine. >> the state has the right to make our decisions like the cdc does and we're going to work with them. this is not about personalities or opinions. this is a crisis in which everyone works together. i don't think it's about what we think personally. it's about what is going to keep our people safe. >> reporter: there is no ebola vaccine, but there could have been. one was developed in canada ten years ago and proven 100% effective in monkeys, but it was shelved because of a lack of interest. it's now in clinical trials and could be ready next year. chris? >> rick, reporting from new york. thanks for that. now, let's bring in dr. anthony fauci, director of national allergy and infectious diseases. doctor, this is becoming a

weekly occurrence. welcome back. >> good to be with you. >> as we just mentioned, the governor of new york and new jersey have instituted this mandatory quarantine for all people coming back from west africa through their airports, who have had direct contact with ebola patients including all medical workers. here is governor chris christie announcing it. >> new jersey, new york are going to determine the standards of quarantine since cdc's guidance is continually changing and we need to set a standard for our two states. >> given that people are not contagious until they show symptoms, does it -- is it good science to quarantine them for 1 days? >> first principle, protect american people. second principle, make your decision based on the science. right now, as we said many times, people who are without symptoms do not transmit ebola. we know that. so, guidelines regarding how you handle people from coming back should always be based on the science. and the science tells us that

people who are asymptomatic don't transmit. that doesn't mean we're cavalier about it, but that means there are other steps to protect american people based on the scientific evidence, that does not necessarily have to go so far as to possibly have unintended consequences of disincentivizing health care workers. the beth way to pres otect us io stop the epidemic in west africa. we need those health care workers so we don't want to put it in a situation where it makes it they uncomfortable for them -- >> so, you're saying this mandatory 21-day quarantine, especially for people who are completely astock ymptomatic, i good science. >> if you're talking about a asymptomatic person, there's a way to monitor them. you could do it by active and direct monitoring. that would accomplish the same thing. the difficulty when you put someone am a position, if you're going over there, when you come back, no matter what you do, no

symptoms, you're not at a high risk, you still have 21 days out of your life where you can't move, i think we'll have unintended negative consequences. >> so, you're against the 21-day quarantine? >> personally, myself, as a physician, scientist, i wouldn't have recommended that. >> a lot of listeners will say, let's look at the case of this doctor, craig spencer. he started feeling sluggish on tuesday, running around the city, on subways, at the bowling alley. and he does all of this before he, you know, is -- reports in and is taken to the hospital. can you trust people? here's a doctor. can you trust them to self-monitor? >> well, in general, the human nature, you can't say everyone is the same with your trust, but what you can do to get that extra step is ratchet up the monitoring from passive to what we call active or direct, where someone actually each day would

take the temperature, get a symptom story and then make a decision whether someone can go out. but dr. spencer did exactly what he should have done. when he got back, doctors without borders say, you report your symptoms. he did. as soon as he got a fever, he put himself in isolation. >> but he was sluggish and running around town. >> no one came into contact with his body fluids, so the risk is essentially zero. vanishingly small. >> you talk about what you seem to think is the lack of scientific wisdom in the decision to impose this 21-day quarantine. you're the point man for the government on infectious disease. did anyone from governor christie's office, governor cuomo's office, contact you, or the cdc, before this quarantine? >> the cdc was all over this. the cdc sets minimum types of requirements which are good, below which you can't go. the states have the authority to

go beyond the cdc recommendations, which is what, in this case, they did. but the cdc immediately was involved in trying to make sure americans are protected. >> i want to get back to the -- your main concern here because you've said repeatedly, you've been on this show a lot the last month, and you've said repeatedly that the big concern and that we're not going to solve this crisis until we stop ebola in west africa. how concerned are you? perhaps, you're in contact with public health workers, the kind of people who are volunteering to go over there, how concerned are you that if they know that i'm going to go over there, i'm going to put myself in jeopardy, and then when i come back, i'm going to face a mandatory three-week quarantine out of my life, unable to move around, unable to go back to my job, how concerned are you that's going to stop people from going in the first place? >> i am concerned, chris, because the people i've spoken to that are going there and coming back, are concerned about that. they're responsible. they know that if, in fact, they have symptoms and have the possibility of transmitting it,

that they don't want to get anyone else infected. but the idea of saying that everybody, even people without symptoms, that clearly could be a disinsintive. it's an unintended consequence. if we don't have people volunteering to go over there, other countries won't do it and then the epidemic will continue. >> a couple of questions. you released dr. nina pham. there she is being released this week from nih when she was free of the ebola virus. have you determined how she got the virus? was it a problem with the cdc protocols? if so, have you tightened those up? >> first of all, you never can tell exactly how she got it because she was under one protocol for a few days and then the other. so, whatever it was, she certainly was at a risk and got infected. so, whenever you see that, chris, you try to tighten things up. right now the cdc protocols are much tighter than they were. those were protocols that actually worked very well

historically in africa. we find now that with the intensive care setting, that we give in this country, they may not be optimal and that's why the cdc has changed them. >> finally, there was a story in "the new york times" this week, mike levinthal referred to it, scientists came up with a vaccine a decade ago that was 100% effective in stopping ebola in monkeys, but because of the fact the disease was so rare, there wasn't a market, incentive to test it and develop it, is there some way -- first of all, do you think we could have had, if there was a full speed effort ten years ago, could we have had an ebola vaccine by now? secondly s there some way when there is so little market for it that we can get these things developed just in case we get into this kind of situation? >> answer to both questions. certainly without pharmaceutical backing, you're not going to get a vaccine for sure. we could have had one now.

you can't predict because there are scientific issues there. we may not have scientifically been able to do it. what the government is doing now with a program is to be able to finance things where you can stockpile. so, the government is realizing that even if there isn't the need out there now, there may be be the need in the future. that's what that agency is doing. >> how close are we to a vaccine? >> again, i can't predict. i can tell you we're moving along. i told you last week we're in phase one. we're going to finish that in november. then we'll go and do a much larger trial in west africa, likely in liberia and monrovia to determine if it works. that's what we need to make sure, that it works, because you don't want to distribute a vaccine that could be harmful or not work. the sooner we prove it works, the sooner we can contribute it widely. >> dr. fauci, thank you. thanks for coming in and updating us on the situation once again. >> good to be with you. >> up next, new jersey governor chris christie joins us for his first sunday show interview of

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new jersey governor chris christie is traveling the country as head of the republican governor's association. trying to elect gop candidates this year and perhaps set the stage for a potential 2016 run for the white house. governor christie joins us now from florida, where there's a tight governor's race for his first sunday show interview of 2014. governor, welcome back to "fox news sunday." >> good morning, chris. good to be with you. >> governor, you just heard, and

we want to talk before we get to politics about this whole controversy of ebola and the quarantine. you just heard dr. fauci, new york city's health commissioner, dr. mary basset was reportedly furious she was not informed before the quarantine was imposed. do you no longer trust the cdc and doctors and scientists? >> well-r well, no, that's a pretty general statement, chris. of course we do. but the matter of the fact the cdc quarantine guidelines were a moving target. imagine you're in charge of the public health of a densely populated stated and these protocols continue to move and change. it was my conclusion we needed to do this to protect the public health of the people of new jersey. governor cuomo agreed. now mayor emanuel agrees.

and i think the cdc will eventually come around to our point of view on this. >> what about dr. fauci says it's not good science to quarantine people when they're not symptomatic because they can't spread the disease in those situations? >> well, listen, i have great respect for dr. fauci, but what he's counting on is a voluntary system for folks who may or may not comply. we had this situation in new jersey with the nbc news crew who said they were going to self-quarantine and two days later they were out picking up takeout food in princeton and walking around the streets of princeton. i don't believe when you're dealing with something as serious as this, we can count on a voluntary system. this is government's job, if anything else, the government's job is to protect the health and safety of our citizens. so, we've taken this action and i absolutely have no second thoughts about it. >> well, let me ask you about one other aspect of it. dr. fauci talks about the

unintended consequence. everyone agrees the only way to stop this crisis is to end ebola in west africa. and doctors and nurses who are willing to take their chances going over there, when they hear they have to undergo a mandatory three-week quarantine when they get back, may not decide to go in the first place. the first nurse who is under the quarantine feels she was badly treated. do you feel you'll disincentivize people from going over there to stop the outbreak? >> i don't believe so. i believe those who are willing to take that step and willing to volunteer, also understand it's in their interest and the public health interest to have a 21-day period thereafter if they've been directly exposed to people with the virus. and as we saw what happened with some of the health care workers in texas, with the cdc shifting protocols, we had people infected from that type of contact. we just can't have that in the new york/new jersey area.

that's why governor cuomo and i agree on this. now you see that they agree in chicago as well. i think this is a policy that will become a national policy sooner rather than later. >> you're in florida as head of the republican governor's association. let's put up the numbers on the governor races. republicans currently hold 29 governor seats, democrats 21. this year republicans are defending 22 governorships and democrats only 14. governor, where do you see the count after the election? >> it's very interesting. we're also defending nine governorship in states that president obama has won twice. and so we have a pretty daunting task on our hands. i think everybody expected us to be a little on our heels. it's now quite to the contrary. we're on offense in more states than defense. the fact is we have 12 races

right now within the margin of error, so i think no one can predict where we're going to be. i've been more involved in these races than anyone on this side of the aisle. the fact is, it's going to be a real battle down to election day. because of the great job our republican governors have done and some of the real good things that our candidates are proposing in challenging races, i think we'll come through this very, very well. >> let's ask you briefly about wisconsin where some of the people around republican governor scott walker, who is seeking re-election, are complaining that the rga is not doing enough to support him and they're even suggesting that maybe the reason is because you view him as a possible threat, a possible contender for the presidency in 2016. your response, sir. >> well, listen, the facts just don't back that up. first of all, scott walker and i have a great personal relationship. just spoke to scott a couple of days ago. we have a great personal relationship and i'll be going to campaign for him two more

times. secondly, we spent over $6 million already in the state of wisconsin on this effort. and over the course of scott's three races for governor, 2010, 2012 and 2014, we spent over $20 million. and so, you know, that's just folks who are the -- in the punditry who want to talk about back room kind of stuff, which has no relationship to reality. i am a complete scott walker supporter. always have been. and we're going to work as hard as we can to make sure he's re-elected. and i believe he will be re-elected on november 4th. >> governor, you mentioned president obama. while he's staying away from democratic senate races, he's actually campaigning in several of the governor's races. in the final days he's going to pennsylvania, wisconsin, maine and michigan. is it harder to tie a democratic gubernatorial candidate in a state race to president obama and his policies?

>> it depends on who that democrat is and what their record is. in michigan, congressman gary shower completely supports the obama agenda. and rick snyder, on top of the fact he has an extraordinary record of job growth and bringing detroit back in michigan will be elected. contributing factor, of course, congressman showers' record. depends on who that democratic candidate is. we rely on republican governors and challengers. you look at someone like charlie baker in massachusetts is running an outstanding race there. we've got a lot of great challengers around the country. bruce rounder in illinois is doing a great job in that blue state. tom foley in connecticut is doing a great job in that very blue state. keep an eye on larry hogan down in maryland, also doing a good job? a very blue state. those are places where we're pushing, chris. we may just have some success on election night. >> governor, this is the first

time you've done a sunday show since bridgegate, the scandal about the closing of those lanes from new jersey onto the george washington bridge, causing a tremendous traffic jam because of the fact that the mayor of ft. lee refused to support your re-election. . there was a report in september, last month, nine months into their investigation that federal prosecutors had found no evidence that you had prior knowledge of the lane closures and now, more than a month later, ten months into the investigation, the state and federal investigations continue. question, why do you think it's taking so long? >> you know, chris, i did this for seven years of my career before i became governor. i was the united states attorney for the district of new jersey. one thing i learned very clearly, any time politicians try to guess what was going on in prosecutor's offices, they are making a big mistake. i don't speculate about that

stuff. all the people of new jersey know and need to know is that i had absolutely nothing to do with this and that seems to be the conclusion some folks are coming to as well. and i know it will be the conclusion, ultimately, because i know the truth. >> well, you talk about prosecutors. that's the federal case. the state case is being handled by state legislators. do you think there's an effort by some of the democrats there to keep you under a cloud? >> of course. of course. if you look at what those hearings have been like, they've been hyperpartisan political. that's okay. you don't get anywhere by complaining about these things. we took the steps we needed to take when we discovered something in the administration had gone wrong and now we move on. we've continued to govern and gotten bail reform done in new jersey over the last few months, got a balanced budget passed again and did all the things you expect a government to be doing working with democrats who did not want to be hyperpartisan and political. this is not the kind of stuff that concerns me at all.

i keep doing my job and keep doing my job as chairman of the governor's association. >> i don't want to go into it too deeply but you brought up the duj. you're taking criticism for the financial situation in new jersey. you decided to cut payments to pension funds instead of raises taxes on millionaires and businesses, the credit rating for new jersey has actually been downgraded eight times on your watch. and the polls in new jersey show you with your lowest favorability rating since you became governor. what's going on? >> first of all, chris, you have to remember what we inherited five years ago. an $11 billion budget deficit. ten years of consecutive tax increases at the state level. this was an awful mess. now what have we done? we've had five balanced budgets in a row. we've had $2.3 billion in tax cuts to the businesses of new jersey. 143,000 new private sector jobs and an unemployment rate that's

gone from 9.7% down to 5.7%. i'm working every day to make that record even better as we go guard. so, there will always be the naysayers, chris, always be the critics. but i'm in there getting the job done every day and i think that's what the people of new jersey like about us. >> let's turn to 2016. are you going to run for president? >> i don't know. haven't made up my mind. won't make up my mind until the beginning of next year. i've got 36 governors' races i'm overseeing right now, in addition to a pretty busy day job as you outlined with the questions on ebola and the budget and others. so, i have not made a decision, chris, but i'm not being coy about it. i'm obviously thinking about it, but i won't make any final decision until next year. >> you spoke to the u.s. chamber of commerce this week and you made some comments that got some attention. take a look. >> i am convinced that the next president of the united states is going to be a governor. and it needs to be. we have had the experiment of a

legislator who's never run anything, getting on-the-job training in the white house. it has not been pretty. >> you were obviously taking a shot at president obama, but were you also taking a shot at potential candidates rand paul and ted cruz? >> no. what i was talking about is what we've seen in the white house over the last six years. and i think we see it over and over again with the crises that are happening both around the world and at home right now. you need to have someone in that chair who knows how to make those decisions who has done it before. that's why i advocate governors as the best people to be considered as president in 2016 pop no, this was a direct commentary on the record of the last six years. unfortunately, the fact that someone who has never run anything bigger than a senate staff may not be the best training in the world to run the biggest government in the world, chris. >> in that chamber of commerce speech you also said, quote, it's time to start offending people. and there's one comment you made that a lot of people are taking

offense to. here it is. >> i'm tired of hearing about the minimum wage. i really am. i don't think there's a mother or a father sitting around a kitchen table tonight in america who are saying, you know, honey, if our son or doctor could just make a higher minimum wage, my god, all our dreams would be realized. >> while everyone agrees we need better paying jobs, for people making $7.25 an hour, the minimum wage now, they say getting an increase to $10 an hour would make a big difference in their lives and that you were being cavalier about it. >> i'm not being cavalier. i'm saying it exactly as i see it. what we need to do in this country is not have a debate over higher minimum wage. we need a debate over better paying, middle class jobs in this country. if that somehow doesn't comport with what people in the political elite want, i'm sorry, but i know, talking to families across new jersey and now across this country, that what they're

aspiring to is to have good paying, middle class jobs for their children to take and even higher so that they can have a stable home life, so that they can have an ability to go away on a vacation if they'd like to, so they can have the ability to save for their children to go to college. that's the kind of future people in this country want. the debate we need to be having is not have a better pro-growth economy that's growing jobs and good paying jobs. jobs in places like motorola solutions or other great places across the country or other places that operate in new jersey and across the country that great paying jobs. that's not the biggest problem in this country. the biggest problem in this country is opportunity inequality. that's what mothers and fathers are sitting around the kitchen table talking about wanting for their children's future. that's what i was saying in those comments and i don't back off those comments one inch. >> the last time we talked was last november, just after you had been re-elected as governor. at that time you were the

front-runner for the republican nomination in those absurdly early polls. a mcclatchy/marist national poll had you leading gop contenders at 18%, paul at 12%, bush at so%. last month bush was in front with 15%, paul at 13% and you at 12%. how badly have you been damaged by bridgegate? secondly, what do you say to people who may like you but worry you may be too tough, too bare bones, two brass knuckled for the presidency? even if you did know nothing about it, that you created a climate in your administration that people thought closing the lanes to a bridge was okay. >> well, first of all, there's no climate in our administration that would ever permit that. and the termination of folks who were involved proves that very clearly. secondly, so does our bipartisan record of having achieved

property tax reform in new jersey, pension and benefit reform in new jersey, tax cuts in new jersey, five balanced budgets. where today, chris, we're spending less in fiscal year '15 than the state of new jersey spent in fiscal year 2008, seven years ago. those are all bipartisan achievements because i have a democratic legislature. bail reform this year and focusing on getting smart with drug rehabilitation. all bipartisan achievements we've done this year. so the fact s you can't worry about those kind of polls for an election that's three years away. and that's certainly nothing that i worry about or is even at the front of my mind. what i'm much more concerned about is doing the job for the people of my state, which we continue to do. in a second term when you find -- look what's happening in washington, chris. they can't get anything accomplished down from from the white house on down. in new jersey we're still passing major pieces of legislation. no, i'm not the least bit concerned with that. you know what i'm concerned about? first and foremost, doing my job as governor of new jersey and making our state a better place to live and work and raise a

family. secondly, electing as many republicans to state houses across this country in nine days. and i think we'll have success at both. >> governor christie, thank you. thanks for joining us today. always good to talk with you. to be continued, sir. >> absolutely, chris. i look forward to it. >> how do you think republicans will do in november? let me know on facebook or twitter @foxnewssunday and use #fns. as we enter the final week of the campaign, how much of a burden is president obama for democrats in tight races? our sunday group joins the conversation. the lightest or nothing. the smartest or nothing. the quietest or nothing. the sleekest... ...sexiest, ...baddest, ...safest, ...tightest, ...quickest, ...harshest... ...or nothing. at mercedes-benz, we do things one way or we don't do them at all. introducing the all-new c-class. the best or nothing.

. . . i never said i didn't want president obama to come and campaign. the fact is, he's busy in washington. >> the bottomi isough >> these are folks that vote for me and support me in congress. >> shaheen trying to explain the absence of president obama during the election. >> now time for the sunday group, brit hume, fox news senior political analyst, and george will, and former democratic senator, evan bayh. but, first, chris christie had a coming out today, what did you think about his performance? his viability as a canidate?

>> impressive in the science he was fluid. he had good answers. they were probing questions. he is reemerging. not that cloud that has been over him since the bridge scandal is gone but it is now dissipating. the fact nothing has been found, that is suggesting that they may be doing what they do, and continue the investigations for people say why do you also find something, the last place you look is you find it in the last place you look but the long irit goes on, the more chances of finding something diminishes. >> if you look at that, christie clearly has taken a hit from last december because of bridge-gate but on the other hand despite all of this and his absence from the national scene he is still up there with the frontrunners.

>> he has two things: incredibly connecting with the real people. second, low expectations. i can't tell you how many have written him off because of bridge gate. having low expectations is a good way to start a race. >> let's turn to the midterms and nine days out, george, a lot of the senate races are between the republicans and the democrats, some republican seats and some democratic seats, they are within a margin of error. may is remarkable. that means in arkansas and north carolina and elsewhere, democratic canidates are running double digit ahead of the president's job approval rating which is simply issue not be happening. >> he is down to 31 percent or 32 percent and they are in the mid-to-high 40's. >> right. the campaigns are focused on low propensity voters, those who vote in the presidential election but have to be prompted to the polls in off year

elections. a measure of this is early voting. we used to have election day now we have election month in this country, in some cases election eight weeks, six weeks. the republicans say they are doing very well in early voting and absentee ballot voting. we shall see. there are interesting polls, 9 "denver post," shows the republican senate candidate is ahead of his opponent, mark udall, incumbent but among hispanics 49 percent to 35 percent, a 14-point lead among hispanic for the republican in colorado. >> senator bayh your reaction to the polls despite the talk of the unpopularity of the president and potential republican wave the fact they are still so close and you have been there, your best sense of whether democrats will hold on or republicans flip? >> let me answer the second first, this is going to be very close, the number of races that

are still in play is extraordinarily high so it is tough to answer. a lot we will not know until election night but history, geography and the president's approval rating would suggest it is going to an good night for republicans. the big question: the democrats in the senate have invested $630 million in get-out-the-vote and the voters that george was describing and the obama campaign was good at turning those votes out and they outperformed the polls including colorado in 2012 and micha runnn 2010 did the same and take alaska, small electorate and begich has spent a lot of money to get the voters out, so yes want to frighten you, my guess is control of the united states senate is going to come down in a run off in december in louisiana and possibly a run off in georgia, in january. >> a follow-up question, you talk about democrats lying to get voters who don't vote in

presidential elections but don't vote in midterm elections to vote this time and you are talking about trying to get the obama voters to vote when obama is not on bat local. what is the likelihood of success? >> at the margins you can move one, two, maybe 3 percent but there are so many that could be so close because they can pull it off but it is a dilemma. many of the states are red states where the president is not popular but you are still trying to tush out base democratic votes. >> briefly, brit? >> there are a budge of factors mentioned that favor republican but three, one is referred to, the democrats turnout machine is superb and until this month they have had a money advantage and, finally, the low esteem the republican party is held which constitute powerful 40s that counteract it looks like it will be a good republican year and could determine whether it and good enough for the republicans to take control.

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attacks on his country in three days. we are back with the panel. it wasn't just canada. look at this video in new york city this week. a man with a hatchet attacked new york city police officers on thursday. authorities say he was visiting isis and other jihadist websites and here is new york city police commissioner pratt. >> as i look at this i am comfortable, preliminary evaluation this is a terrorist act. >> no doubt in his mine. >> the two men in canada and the one in new york are classic, self radicalized, lone wolf terrorists. if they get recruited on the internet if their home, how do we count this? >> i don't know if i count this as being recruited, there are 315 million people in this country and some are stark raving mad. that is fact. that will always be a problem. in 1951, a man forgotten, who

published "true believer," said mass movements, religions, totalitarian movement of the 21st century attract people who find in the movements, not real politics but psycho therapy and they pregnant their disorderly inner lives and get a sense of meaning and i am afraid it is true then, true now. he received the medal of freedom from ronald reagan in 1983 for this insight and we should revisit what he saw. >> that brings up an interesting question: are they really terrorists? these people have long criminal records, down and out and homeless and perhaps mentally ill but does it make a difference what their motivation is if they do their work? >> they are called we lone wolfs and i would call them stray dogs looking for inspiration but when they get the backing and the inspiration which is there, that is a key strategy of isis to

radicalize westerner both at home, with them, and here, and something, not to terrify people, but this could go on for a very long time, panetta is saying this is a 30 year war and a former top aide of hillary clinton said we are looking at a 15- to 20-year war against terror that isis has been let loose. this is something we will have to confront. these guys in canada were trying to get to the middle and couldn't so they took it out here. it is a problem in the middle east. and at home. >> george said this is not recruiting but, brit, we have had three of these attacks just this week and one of the questions i have, is there something about isis and its claims of an islamic states with their great sophistication on

the internet and beheadings and one fellow in new york had visited the sites, is there something that makes them more attractive to the lone wolf, stray dog? >> more attractive to those whose lives are in disarray and have a propensity of violence but are aside of dying. the message from isis you are going to glory and you will be martyred. this give as reason to do this and a reason not to fear the outcome. this attacker was killed in a hail bullets from the police guns. he didn't care. he was represented for that. if isis is able to inspire violent not cases across the united states -- and there are plenty of them -- to carry outran dome attacks first on police and then random citizens it is especially frightening and has the effect of terrorizing. that video is truly frightening. >> what do we do? how do we stop? we asked you for questions for

the panel and we got a bunch on facebook from paul david henson: why is our government monitoring of our e communication still failing to stop radicals who post on facebook their intention? what good is it to monitor and detect if you are only going to sit back and watch the attack. pretty good question. how do you answer? >> it is hard to answer paul. civil libertarians will say it is not enough to express radical thought there has to be action, but this is hard. the panel has indicatedhese are individuals who are not communicating with wide networks that we normally can listen to and pick up on, they are in the country and we cannot stop them from getting here. it is balance between protecting society from the maniacs, the radicals, verify discussion preserving a zone privacy. that is the tension. >> as we have seen, there is a controversy about the n.s.a. and the surveillance. we know they are able to track at least every phone call and

every e-mail. do we need less surveillance but more surveillance? when a guy like that is posting more i things and some of the guys in canada were doing it, we pick it up and they fall into the security net? >> the question becomes, what does monitoring mean? frankly, friends, relatives, family ought to notice that the people who are close to them are deeply disturbed and they ought to have public health officials they can turn to and say, this is a sink of potential violence. the idea that the central government, the n.s.a. collecting meta data in vast quantities can spined find these few needles in the end norms haystack and the federal government can monitor? what does that mean? i don't know, frankly. this should be done at the local level with people who know these people and see something disturbing unfolding.

>> in the case of the fellow who went into the parliament in canada, michael zehaf-bibeau his mother had not seen him in five years. so who are the family and friends who will say? >> some drop out. i put this in the same basket as something we have not talked about is school shootings and i put all of this in the same category of when you see something, say something. this is a team we use to fight terrorism since 9/11. we need to set up a mechanism at the federal level where people can call in. where troubling social postings that are public, when you see the troubled postings you have a lay to go. take the santa barbara shooter the mother was scared to death he would take a gun out and shoot those kids. i have taken a real interest in this. this is something you can

approach in a similar way which is, if you see something, say something, and where does someone who is troubled by the posting, by the activities, the talk of someone they know, where can they go? >> part of the quandry there is even if you did let someone know that so and so is posting terrible things, what are you going to do? >> you can't just sign a gumshoe to follow all of these people around at all times. >> can not commit them for just writing something. >> that is where par of the problem lies. everyone who lives in an urban area noses there are a lot of people not playing with a full deck lying around in our parks and they appear to be harmless and they cannot be institution institutionalized because the courts have ruled that such people may not be. >> many of them have been released. >> that is an issue that may need to be revisited.

to keep these nutty people from being on the streets. >> two thoughts, as horrific as this is, it is still a wide aberration and you have a lot greater chance of getting hit in a car accident than being hit by a hatchet from a terrorist. at the end of the day it is empty ideology and our way of life will triumph. it could take years but the merchants of debt are not on the right side of history. >> thank you. we will take a request break. when we come back, we will have the panel back the world series in full swing but viewers are not tuning in like they used to. george will will not like this.

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in the center. sandoval delivers. >> my best buck impressions. giants first baseman pablo sandoval the play that gave the giants the lead. we're back with some extra innings for our sunday crew. we were struck by an article in the new york times article this week, not by how many, but by how few people were watching. 12.2 million people tuned in to the opening game, that may sound a lot. that's the lowest rated game one on record, 12.9 million watched

game two. >> what was wrong with the national pastime? >> 20 years ago it was a

>> we like the nfl too here, jordan. this has been a trend for decades, and the fact is that it's been going on, take a look at these numbers, the last nine years have produced the eighth least watched world series. check this out, 12.2 million, as we said watched the kansas city royals in game one this year. the last time the royals were in the series in 1985, the game averaged 34.5 million viewers. that's pretty dramatic. >> it reflects the proliferation of media options and athletic options. people just have a lot more choices these days, so nothing's going to be quite as dominant as it used to be. my open is that this does not, you know, it's not evidence of a broader society, but in a instant gratification culture where the pace of the game might not lend itself to the game.

>> baseball knows it has a problem, they scheduled this world series so they're not going up against thursday night football, thachbd're not going up against "monday night football." >> they r as was the case last night, they were up against college football. i think football, college and pro and even high school as supplanted the national pro as national football. because of the concussion problem, if that's not solved, kids are not going to be playing and that means that eventually the game will wither. >> we're under a death sentence, because we're flat out of time. nina, i apologize, i know what a big sports fan you are, i had to tell her that the world series was happening. as we pray view the midterms, now a quick program note, you can catch, and please do, game five of the world series, coverage starts at 8:00 eastern on fox.

we'll see you the next fox news sunday. for now. . breaking news on the fox report, we are hearing from the white house now that several governors are going their own way, they say the white house and federal health officials are not doing enough to protect americans from one of the deadliest viruses on the planet. at this hour, the list is growing. as states take matters into their own hands now. new york, new jersey, illinois, goi going above and beyond anything recommended by the cdc, by recommending a mandatory 21-day quarantine for anybody entering our nation who may have had contact with an ebola