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factor." again, thanks for watching us tonight. ms. megyn is next. i'm bill o'reilly. please always remember the spin stops here cause we're definitely looking out for you. breaking tonight, another case of ebola in america as a new york city doctor reportedly tests positive for the virus. this time in the usa's largest city. the governor of new york and the new york city mayor are about to hold a press conference. we are watching that for you right now in realtime. this after this doctor spent time in west africa working with ebola patients before returning to new york city and spending at least a week walking around this town before he was admitted to the hospital with a fever today. also breaking tonight, one day after a lone wolf terror attack in canada, a man suspected of terror ties here
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attacks police with a hatchet in new york city. the attack happened in broad daylight this afternoon. authorities are investigating a possible terror connection now as fox news has learned that the fbi's joint terrorism task force is on the scene. welcome to a very busy "the kelly file" everyone. i'm megyn kelly. this is brand new surveillance video just coming into fox showing the suspect about to launch -- watch. hold on, we're going to get to it in a second. showing -- in queens, new york. this is video from after the fact. one officer's arm was reportedly sliced open. here's the video. and there you can see. and the other officer was struck in the head. both officers are now in the hospital. one is in critical condition. police opened fire on the man killing him and wounding a woman nearby with errant gunfire. she is said to be okay. our cameras captured a picture of the attacker after it was all we have blurred that image.
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he is on the ground dead. this is the suspect you are seeing. he had a long beard -- on the ground. he had a long beard and dark green jacket. the picture tells the story as you see him wielding that hatchet as he goes after four cops, two of whom he wounded. trace gallagher is live with the latest. >> fox news senior correspondent rick elevleventhal has confirme it happened in a very busy district of queens. a freelance photographer asked the rookie police officers to pose for a picture. that's when a man pulled an 18-inch hatchet out of a black backpack and without saying anything hit the officers. one as you said in the arm and another in the head. that officer listed as critical but stable. the other two officers shot and killed the suspect. one of their bullets hit a woman walking by. her injury not life threatening. but police now tell fox the
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suspect's facebook page has some very concerning content including a statement that says, quoting here, the solution is to fight, armed struggle, simple. then another statement that seems to support home grown attacks, saying again quoting here, helicopters, big military will be useless on their own soil. they will not be able to defeat our people if we use guerilla warfare. attack their weak flanks. if you get wounded, who cares. if you die, who cares. eventually they will surrender and the war will be over. now, nypd won't release the suspect's name because his family has not yet been notified. but new york police have issued a patrolled bulletin alerting officers to be in a state of heightened awareness. and there is also a report that new york police are conducting a large scale operation near the site of the attack. but this, megyn, marks the third potential terror attack in north america in just four days.
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megyn. >> trace, we will be back to you as the news breaks. and we are monitoring again as we await this press conference by the new york governor and the new york city mayor. there are two pieces of breaking news tonight. not just this possible terror attack in new york city on two police officers but a confirmed case according to "new york times" of ebola in new york city brought here we're told by a doctor who was helping ebola patients in guinea. joining me more for the events today in queens, new york, buckr for the blaze.com. buck, they are not coming right out and calling this a terrorist attack tonight but saying they are investigating possible terror ties and they are directing us to this man's facebook page which they suggest has some of the quotes that trace just put on the board. the solution is to fight. armed struggle. simple.
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if indeed it's the person we think it is, his facebook page is littered with arabic prayers. >> megyn, the early indicators here are somebody who had some solidarity with jihadist violence. again, preliminary reports. i was just in touch with some nypd sources and telling me sources are still working itself out. 'k5jju as you can see the fact the individual has a hatchet, this looks like a planned attack. they've already declared him an emotionally disturbed person, also think he may have been a crazy person who fallen into the jihad. he might have been a lone wolf, radicalized jihadist engaged in home grown attack. they're still looking through social media profile. they're still trying to joqsñder all that. but this has many of the hallmarks that home grown jihadist strike. >> we just had the terror group
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isis call for lone wolf attacks similar to the one in canada. they singled out canada in late september. consider canada, they had joined us in the coalition. i apologize to the audience. we do not normally play terrorist propaganda as a policy here. however as the news breaks and seems to relate directly to said propaganda, then it becomes newsworthy. we want to let the audience know what they called for in late [ speaking in a foreign language ] >> a specific call to attack the police officers of the infidel. >> a classic tact of insurgency around the world, megyn. we see a situation where if this is a jihadist attack, it falls in line with the broader vat ji of creating a tremendous amount of anxiety and uncertainty and fear in not just america but all allied western countries because
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there's no way to completely prevent these kinds of attacks. if somebody self-radicalizes, you're not going to be able to pick them out of a crowd. you're not going to know until they strike. mass casualty require a greater degree of planning, training and preparation. but an individual attack can kill -- there are radicalized individuals who are in our midst and coming back from the battlefield of isis. >> this man took a hatchet to a new york city police officer's head who is in critical but stable condition tonight and thoughts and prayers with his family. i want to ask you what this means there's been this patrol bulletin issuing heightened awareness among the police in addition to the fact the joint terrorism task force from the fbi is there on the scene investigating this as well as some intel officials with the nypd. is that standard? will they only do that if they believe there was a terror connection? >> it's looking at what we know so far and taking a position of vigilance to try to make sure uniform personnel, the nypd and other law enforcement agencies
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are prepared for this kind of attack. you have to see the connection here between what happened in canada and at least conceivably what's happened here, which would be individuals who have self-radicalized who are lone wolfs and attacking uniform military or uniform police because they do that as they hire propaganda here in the u.s. there could be some connection again. you could see chat rooms perhaps advocating for specifically going after law enforcement and military because of that propaganda value. so the reports are preliminary on this attack in new york, megyn, i know this and this is what the nypd guys are telling me. tonight we are a city on the edge here and we have a very likely and now we know confirmed case of ebola and what could have been a lone wolf attack. bad stuff happening here in the big apple. >> and, you know, both to potentially deadly threats. one is a disease in many ways is harder to fight. and yet you've got what appear to be in maybe both of these circumstances yesterday and today people who have mental
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deficiencies and somehow may get radicalized or may be inspired by the terrorist rhetoric that we are hearing. and that's a threat of the isis threat box we haven't yet specifically focused on, the effect that these radical calls to jihad will have on people who imbalant with. >> jihadization, the move beyond radicalization, when some of these individuals actually choose to engage in an attack, that does have an appeal to those who are disaffected, who feel like society has wronged them in some way or they're apart from the rest of society. and obviously people who start out feeling as though they're in some way loners are more likely to become lone wolf in many cases or actually pull back from society. that's not unusual in many of these self-radicalized cases where the cyber jihad claimed at victim. somebody attending a mosque and say i'm not attending anymore. i'm going to go off on my own. the true islam is not practiced here, it's only practiced by
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isis and they withdraw from the community, withdraw from those around them and engage in attack abroad fighting along side isis or here at home. it looks, megyn, there are so many things that make us think at this point this is a home grown attack. but we can't say definitively. >> obviously the timing connection with what happened in canada yesterday raises that possibility considerably. what in your experience having worked with the9z6> they're following up on all their leads and connections they have to this individual. more broadly they'll be looking to see if he was part of a cell or cluster or individuals around him who either helped him
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radicalized or helped push him towards this. there could be others waiting in the wings to engage inmm these kinds of attacks. look, these attacks are not going to have the same level of casualty. because they're so hard to pick out and because there's essentially nothing security services can do to effectively completely eradicate them or defeat them, they do have a certain value for the global jihad in the sense anybody anywhere could have self-radicalized. they wanted to take in that mentality. it's important to remember to be vigilant but not cave into fear and think this is going to be happening all the time on a regular basis. but there will probably be more attacks like this and looking at this individuals connections here and perhaps connections abroad. we don't know at this point. and recognizing the threat level is higher. we have been pounding the northern syria racking up a higher body count than at any previous time in the air campaign. and clearly isis is upping its propaganda online saying if you want to help us fight, take the fight behind their lines, take the fight to them at home.
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we saw that in canada and may have seen that again here in new york city. a close-upshot as well of the hatchet which[10v shows you the brutality of the method he chose. and it's broad daylight. it's 2:00 p.m. in the afternoon, buck. and he's running up to a group of four cops. you could call this suicide by cop. this guy had to know there was no way he was going to emerge from this thing anything but dead. and that's in fact what happened. but then you read what law enforcement's directing our own rick leventhal linked to this suspect on facebook, use guerilla warfare, attack their weak flanks. if you get wounded, who cares. if you die, who cares. eventually they will surrender and then the war will be over. that's the mentality with which we are dealing. >> this is classic jihadist
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ideology in the 21st century. this is the way they're trying to wage war against us and they're doing it with some efficacy unfortunately. we have seen some of these attacks. as i said, megyn, there's really nothing to do about this other than try to remain vigilant. >> this isn't the first one, let's not forget. we had brendan tevlin gunned down in his jeep by somebody pursuing a radical islamist ideology, although that's not been charged as such. been charged as straight murder. we saw the oklahoma beheading, which again has been charged as a murder case. it's not just canada. that's three off the top of my head right here. and in canada too if you point out in north america now or america, we've had three in the last four days. three attacks in the last four days. this appears to be the future. >> i think, megyn, it is in response in some of these cases to isis putting out a call for self-styled self-radicalized jihadist to do what they can to including america of course
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behind their front lines fighting isis. we have been up in the air campaigning against them substantially and the hatchet is meant to increase the terror value of the attack. so that also has a specific value for the jihad. >> buck, i want to stand you by because we do have breaking news elsewhere in new york city tonight as you know. we are awaiting this news conference with the governor of new york and the mayor of new york city on the breaking news of what the "new york times" says is a confirmed case of ebola right here in the nation's largest city. our own dr. mark siegel joins us live outside the hospital where the patient who himself is a doctor, dr. siegel, what have you learned? >> megyn, i'm standing outside bellevue hospital, the oldest public hospital in the united states which has a long history ofte we know this doctor had a 103
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fever this morning. 'd911. the fire department has a rule you have to have 80 hours of experience before you can respond to these calls for potential ebola cases. one of the hazards came down and brought himfçzfz down to bellev hospital where he was put in isolation. our reports are he was actually put in one of the:p units wher you isolate tuberculosis. and then testing was done across the street at the public laboratories. i've been inside there where they do the ebola testing. it takes about three to four hours to get a result back. and they've told me with 95% accuracy on something called a neucleotide test. in the meantime the patient is in isolation at bellevue. >> dr. siegel, have they told you with 90% accuracy what the "new york times" is reporting tonight which is that those preliminary tests have come back positive for ebola? >> well, i think that that's probably the case because from what i heard from the health department was that the results would be back byyai?hnow. and i suspect that that's probably accurate. now what's going to happen is
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the contact tracing we've been talking about and the new york city health department is very equipped to do that, megyn. they are looking back at who he was in contact with over the past several days. supposedly he's been in the who he supposedly bowled with, was in a taxi, was in a subway. everyone that's been in contact with him. but i have to point out to our viewers that, again, unless you have very close contact ]e0t someone with ebola, like a health care worker does, your chances still are extremely low. megyn. >> he came back into the united states -- i'm just looking at it now. he came back into the united states according to reports fr)tóv=u october 17th. so that was just under a week ago. they said that he didn't come down with his fever morning. and yet does that sound plausible to you, dr. siegel? just what we saw with these other patients, for example nurse amber vinson, one of the nurses at the texas hospital, the one who flew to ohio and back. she had reported feeling under the weather, starting to feel like she just wasn't feeling
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well prior to starting a low grade fever. does it sound right to you that he would have been walking around find and asymptommatic until this morning when, bam, he had 103 fever? >> not exactly right, megyn. most likely -- look, vuk a 24-day or more before you get sick. but sounds like he had a few days of not feeling well and the fever of 103 hit today. he might have had a lower grade fever earlier in the week, but the most prominent symptoms hit today. but it's within the 21-day u( again, because he had close &háhp &hc% guinea. he doesn't remember any slip from the protocol from what we've heard.!tñ even with personalsx protective equipment you still can make one mistake and one mistake -- >> come on, doc. i know you're a doctor and this is a fellow doctor, but this sounds irresponsible. you tell meé!-k if i am wrong,h very well may be the case. but you are over thereádb as a
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doctor treating ebola patients. you're well aware of the contagiousness of this disease. he comes back into new york city. he knows he's been handling ebola patients. and he's here for a week? he doesn't tell anybody? he's still bowling and taking taxis and not self-quarantining? we just secured the nbc health correspondent for not quarantining hearse. she didn't have any symptoms. it doesn't sound like from what we're hearing he took personal responsibility at all. let's hope that the new york city health department and the cdc -- you can hear an ambulance going by. let's hope that the new york city health department and the cdc does not repeat the mistakes that they made in dallas. clearly this doctor wasn't taking this seriously enough by what we were learning by reports. he should have immediately isolated himself.
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>> with all due respect to the doctor who's obviously undergoing a major health scare tonight and trying to help people, but what this underscores is that the system is flawed. because it relies on individuals and their sense of honesty and their own -- the need for them to overestimate the need for danger rather than underestimate it. and repeatedly we've seen especially with health care officials who say don't worry about it, don't worry about me, let's worry about others. they've made decisions in the past couple of weeks, doctor, that have potentially endangered others. thankfully it worked out sos4 q okay in dallas. but here? new york city? this guy for sevenh2@m÷ days? >> megyn, it should be a forcible quarantine in my opinion for every health care worker that's been in contact with an ebola patient that wants to return to the united states. this isn't something that can be left to an individual's discretion clearly putting other citizens here at risk. >> the amount of contact tracing
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now, dr. siegel. can you talk about that? nurse amber vinson, she flew up to ohio from dallas, she was feeling a little under the weather and did not have a fever. u dallas when she had 99.5 fever. they did contact tracing on everybody onboard, as i understand it, each one of those at least tried to track down f1 oy person who was on each on3 of those planes to alert them. this guy flew into jfk and then came -- wandered around new york city for at least÷"@7 six days. where do you begin? >> well, you're going to have to try to figure out everyone he was on the subway with, everyone he was in the cab with, everyone that was in that bowling alley. by the way, the plane you mentioned? you know the planere1ñ itself i under quarantine. they're not going to fly that plane for 21 days. which of course is being overly cautious. but frontier airlines is right to do that. this is a mess of clearly another public affairs
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nightmare. and actually i have to say i'm hoping and don't believe that people he had casual contact with are going to be sick. but still it's going to be a mess trying to do contact tracing here. >> right. because you cannot -- the viewers need to understand, you cannot spread ebola unless you are symptom attic, and you have to exchange bodily fluids with the person who -- with whom you might be giving or getting it. it's not enough to touch the same cab handle as this guy touched and so on. it has to be an exchange of bodily fluids. and yet, doctor, when you see how covered now medical)q9@ ux to be before they go into the room of an ebola patient. and you know that this guy as of last night was not quarantined. and this morning had 103 fever, you have to wonder whether somehow, saliva, whatever it was shared potentially endangered
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somebody. he has a girlfriend who we understand has now been quarantined as well. >> well, you know, since tuesday he's been reporting not feeling well. i think the point is the sicker he is the higher the risk. but clearly someone that's living with him is at high risk. and if he's going around with a fever and he's doing anything in public that would risk secretions that anyone would come in contact with. yes, it's in saliva especially the fist few days. but the greatest risk is blood, vomit and feces. but again, he's been sick for a few days.wfz0 i agree that it's really irresponsible on the part of the physician. the physician should know better, megyn. >> exactly right. rotocol for a -5fujsr)q this coming back from guinea? it's not like he was on a@z european vacation. he comes back into the united states and helping ebola patients according to what i read. we're waiting to hear the press conference from the governor and
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mayor of new york city. what is the protocol? is there not -- grant it he came in six days ago before they,yúç tightened the standards, but was mandatory self-quarantine? >> yes, he was. the centers for disease control has asked all 75 workers who took care of thomas eric duncan to go into forced quarantine and sign a legal document. clearly everyone that works in west africa taking care of ebola patient comes back into the united states should be in a self-imposed quarantine. i think we need a stronger law though to enforce that. >> apparently we do.pwy;q and yet there's nothing you can do to make the people obey the law when it's on the books. and you haveíé to assume hisr1tt was in the right place. but it is tough to believe that he was fine, fine, fine, fine and then 103 fever this morning and then immediately quarantined. we'll find out more as we await this press conference. we're not sure what the reason is for the delay. we were told it was at 9:00. you can bet -- i'm not letting you go, dr. siegel. don't leave. i want to get to our other
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breaking news while we await the governor. if you are just joining us tonight, in addition to what is now according to theril tim"ne times" a confirmed case of ebola in new york city for a doctor just returned from west africa. today law enforcement officers are confirming to fox news that they are investigating possible terror ties of the suspect. it is not clear whether this is a self-radicalized person. they believe, we heard earlier, that this is a mentally distu disturbed person who may also have terror ties who may have taken it upon himself to align witjihad. we don't know. we're trying to get details as one new york city police officer is in critical condition tonight having been stabbed in the head with a hatchet. another is in stable condition having been hit in the arm. joining me now by phone is new york congressman peter king, who's a member of the homeland
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security committee and chairman of the subcommittee on counterterrorism and intelligence. he also serves in the permanent select committee on intelligence. congressman, thank you for being here. what can you tell us, if anything, about the attack in new york today? >> megyn, first of all my father was a new york city police officer. so hits home when you hear something like this. a number of people i've spoken to clearly there were radical islamic statements that he's made. i can't tell you exactly where i've gotten all of this but there's documentation saying he's very much anti-white. he is a muslim. i've heard that -- whether or not it was isis, i don't know. but clearly this is a person who has at least some terrorist islamic 5/voading. certainly radical islamic leadings. hear what's happened over the last several days, whether or
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not he ;zf(ñ with isis which probably is not the case. i don't want to prejudge that. if he does have mental issues, that's when something like this when you see what isis is doing, people like this -- and also your guest on before i was listening to him saying how a person like this can feel he's cut off that only isis or radical islam perhaps can motivate him. and i think right here in new york when you think of "new york times" and associated press, the way they demean the new york city police department, the way they portray them as being anti-muslim, i can see how a person with a mental illness who islam anyway can be further motivated, so this is to me too much of a coincidence comie ini soon after the other two attacks in canada and after isis has been calling for attacks on police in the military.
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not saying he was connected with isis. that remains to be seen. but clearly he was muslim and clearly he was radical. everyone i've spoken to, put that all together this is a bad is hitting home. >> so i just want to confirm, he is a muslim. you say you were being told he is a muslim, he had radical tendenci tendencies. they have evidence to believe he was "anti-white." that's all true of the oklahoma beheading suspect as well. that's a case in which they are telling us is a murder. they are not calling that a terrorist case. do you see a connection between these two? >> certainly goes in that there's certainly a connection worth pursuing and to me it's more likely than not. and i would say that if this does turn out to be similar to oklahoma, again, not all the
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facts are in, but enough facts are in to certainly lead us in that there are people out there, whether they're directly working for isis or people with mental illness provoked by isis and being provoked by what they see in the media that should be on our guard. and the nypd, which has done such a terrific job to stop islamic terrorism in the city. they should really be on their guard. and i'm sure commissioner bratton will be instructing his troops accordingly. >> indeed. we heard earlier that there was a patrol bulletin urging heightened awareness for nypd tonight obviously in the wake of what happened. let me ask you for a broader perspective as somebody who devotes the majority of his career to homeland security issues and trying to keep us safe, we have seen so many attempts on new york city in the form of car bombs, attempted in
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times square and so on, if this is a radicalized -- if this is a radicalized jihadist sympathizer who has just put a hatchet in the head of a new york city police officer, then what are we seeing here? i mean, is this a terrorist attack on american soil? >> i think if all those facts we discussed turn out to be accurate, another terrorist attack on american soil, another terrorist attack against new york city. megyn, i can't emphasize enough we can have all the technology in the world, but more than anything else to stop these types of attacks, you need you need informants. you have to have sources. you need to be able to work your way without worrying about lawsuits, without worrying about being attacked by the media,
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without having hands tied by politically correct politicians and judges. judges stop police from doing their job because we see now how real it can be. and the only way you can get that information is by being active on the ground and not worry about people saying you're being politically correct in profiling. get the job done. to get it done, you have to get full cooperation from the community. that's the underground and you can't have your hands tied. >> in addition to raising the awareness of the new york city police tonight, what do you believe will likely be done? what should be done as they investigate whether in fact this was terror or just a lunatic who appears to have radicalized facebook and other online postings? what should be done right now to protect the nation and law ñmilitary? >> first of all we have to attempt to get more intelligence obviously through the means of the fbi and cia and also into the communities because the people are being radicalized.
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people are whether they have mental issues. the only way we're going to find out about that in advance is by people in the neighborhood, in the communities, in the mosques, people in the gathering halls w-# talk and you know who's dangerous, you know who's not. i think we could have stopped the boston marathon bombing if -- the local police on the ground they're the ones who work this day in and dayó&8z out. you go where the enemy's coming from. when they were going after -- they went to the irish-american community. if you're going after islamic terrorism, you go into the muslim community and use your sources and your resources and you find out all the information you possibly can. because intelligence is the real answer here. that's the only way you're going to -- people in the community may have known about this person
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and what he was capable of. see a lot more of this over the next several years. ready for it. >> get used to it. thank you, congressman. we are joined by a former federal prosecutor and contributing editor to the national review. andy, you just wrote a post suggesting that when we seeñl islamic terrorism like we saw in canada -- confirmed in canada, being investigated in new york tonight, it's important to call it what it is. >> yeah. i think you have to call it what it is, megyn. and i couldn't agree more with the last point that congzessman king made which is that it's open about what it is but that we conduct the kindi
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recently where this new concept came along that we should deputize islamic leaders in the community to be our eyes and ears. the reason that we've been safe from terrorist attacks or reprize of 9/11 all these years is because the police did exactly what congressman king is talking about. they went into the communities. they developed informants. and they prioritized preventing attacks. >> but you know what the criticp say. they say that was racial profiling. and under this mayor we have now eliminated that. you know, the nypd, the federal law enforcement officers are no longer allowed to profile someone based simply on the fact that he is a muslim. nor are they allowed to target the mosques. >> yeah, but they never did that. the fact of the matter is you without being a muslim. and it's part of the job
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description sort of. nobody has ever been targeted simply for being a muslim. but we're fooling ourselves if we claim that we don't know for example and can't easily find out which of the mos mosques say in new york city involved in radicalism and jihadist literature. that is a relevant piece of the puzzle in trying to figure out where the threats might come from. if we close our eyes to it, we're going to see a lot more of what we're seeing on the2mî strs of new york city. >> and yet we haven't done much of that. i mean you heard the canadian prime minister come out last night and say on no uncertain terms that this was terrorism. and it wasn't that their investigation was so much further advanced than any of ours have been, certainly not been the ft. hood investigation at this point in 2014. and yet our leaders don't want to call these acts i terrorism. that's clear.
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even benghazi. even while leon panetta was telling barack obama these are terrorists doing this. the president for weeks was reluctant to use that label. why does it change the fight that even last night while the canadian prime minister was saying terrorism, after he had said that, secretary of state john kerry came out and called it violent extremism. just referred to it as an attack, an evil attack. but not as terrorism. what does that do? >> it creates an ethos in the government that paralyzing our intelligence and law enforcement officers who get the message that they are supposed to essentially put blindfolds on and not7=&q acknowledge the evidence. if you can't take stock of the enemy's threat doctrine, if you can't assimilate what it is that fuels the threat against us,
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then you can't as a practical matter either anticipate what they're going to do next or stop them that's just common sense. >> uh-huh. and yet when you look at this tonight, and again law enforcement telling fox news you heard pete king talk about it as well, this man had radical tendencies. he is a muslim. congressman king said he is "anti-white." he is attacking four police officers, two of whom he hit within a month of isis calling for attacks on police officers in his own postings online reportedly, saying it doesn't matter if you die, you just have to$#3j after them. you see that here. and then you see what happened in oklahoma where a man beheaded a woman, andy. >> right. >> he beheaded a woman. that man too said to be anti-white. obviously was a radical, an islamist radical if you review his facebook page. but as soon as they said he's anti-white, people said that's
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the end of it. it's a black/white thing. forget that whole thing about the islamic radicalization. >> right. well, you know, look, the quran for example in chapter 83wu sa that allah will strike terror into the hearts of the unbelievers and instruct people that they should, you know, smite at the neck and smite here and smite there. now, that's not the only way -- focusing on that sort of thing and there's plenty of it in the scripture, is not the only way of interpreting islam. and we should be able to convey that we not only understand that, but we appreciate the work of patriotic american-muslims who actually help us investigate islamic terrorism. but at the same time we have to acknowledge that there is a centuries old, well-rooted, has behind it some of the greatest scholars in the history of islam
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that preaches islamic sue prem schism. if we can't open our eyes to that, then we can't defend ourselves. >> and that appears to be the position in which we are tonight as you see police officer struggling for his life in critical condition after having been attacked under any circumstances can be said to be a madman on the streets of new york. andy, thank you. >> thanks, megyn. >> you can see we have a split screen as we await a press conference that was supposed to begin at 9:00 p.m. straight up by new york's governor and new york city's mayor. that press conference originally was designed to be on ebola in new york city. now there are several reports confirming tonight that a new york city doctor who traveled to west africa to help ebola patients and returned about a week ago admitted himself to the hospital this morning with a 103-degree fever fearing he may have contracted the disease, was placed in isolation and indeed is-ú confirmed to have had -- t have contracted ebola.
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by preliminary tests tonight they were said to address that, to be ready to address that. and yet you can bet they are going to get questions on what may very well have been a terrorist attack, a lone wolf terrorist attack on police officers in new york city today one day after we saw a canadian soldier gunned down in the streets of ottawa, which happened days after a different canadian soldier was ran down and killed. today's attack remains under investigation. i want to switch to ebola now and talk about what is%$3%ç hap. there are reports[;n now that n york city is set to activate emergency operations, its emergency operations center to try to track downrnkvvt who may have had contact with this doctor, dr. spencer is his name who are is in quarantine tonight in isolation tonight. and again reportedly confirmed to have contracted ebola before he walked around new york city
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for a week. joining me by phone, an infectious disease expert and professor of
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new york city. level 3 gear ems people who are highly trained to handle such a case as this and to take him to the specialized unit at bellevue. >> all right. so if that is the cln&ñ he had an apartment in harlem, new york. if that is the case that he started to develop symptoms and then quarantined himself and only when they progressed to what is now being reported as 103-degree fever and diarrhea, which is one of the other  of ebola, then that would be a less egregious offense by him than it was firsñ suggested. i mean, if he noticed symptoms, self-quarantined and only today went to the hospital. but you tell me this is the largest city in the country and one thinks about this man walking out thereq 3 before he self-quarantined. i mean, we hammered that nbc news reporter for breaking her quarantine for one day to go out and get fast food. she didn't have any symptoms. patients. she had been over in the country of liberia covering the matter.
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a cameraman who she worked with contracted it. but how on earth does this guy come back from treating ebola patients and walk around manhattan and the other burr bo >> is there no self-quarantine required when you return from west africa dealing with ebola patients? >> no. when returning from west africa one has to consider how am i doing. i'm sure he was on high alert for his own health and well being and was really concerned about his own developing a fever and feeling lousy and developing diarrhea. you know, this obviously was something that somebody who was in west africa has to concern himself with. he 21-day period of incubation.
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and when he got home, and i don't know when he got home, became ill and immediately to his credit quarantined himsvu so that he had no other contact. now, presumably if anybody else had contact with him during this phase of acute illness, they also have to be quarantined. >> that's reportedly true about his girlfriend. he had a girlfriend withf,0dd h his apartment. and according to reports in any event she now is under quarantine as well, his fiancee. >> well, that's very, very sensible. so anybody that was in contact with him intimately especially has to be quarantined for at least -- >> and all the people she went out and saw. it's only if you're symptomatic, but reassure the audience. went out and hugged and shook hands with? >> if she did not have symptoms and did not manifest the disease and hopefully she did not or would not, then there's no worry. but if anybody came into contact with him during the period when he was ill and came into contact
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with his bodily fluids, which physician, then they would definitely be at risk. and that would cause worry. >> we talked about nurse amber vinson earlier in the show, one of the nurses who'8f contracted ebola treating patient zero if you will, thomas duncan who came here from liberia, walked into a texas hospital and wound up infecting two nurses there. shel(0gy according to her famils now testing ebola free. she was sent to emory. she was in the quarantine. i believe she received4pñ the platelets from the one doctor who had beaten ebola. and now according to her family she has tested to be ebola free. here? so far in america other than thomas duncan who it went undetected in initially, we seem to be doing all right treating this disease. >> yes. we are giving supportive therapy. we simply do not know the course of this disease in every
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individual. every individual responds differently to this virus. some as we have seen in africa and here in the states with mr. duncan, are very, very susceptible and go into kidney failure and heart failure, et cetera, and die. there are others who have potent immune systems. which we are just learning about. we know very little about thev6 immune%@x response here who can succumb or not succumb to this. and supportive therapy will be viral free within a period of time.'9"jñ i'm very confident that there are many, many people who are well nutritioned and are in good health that will be able to overcome this virus after they are infected. but i don't anticipate an epidemic at all. >> you don't think there's any trouble in the protocol whicrhç% the mayor earlier said this guy followed, what he did is the protocol. you don't see any problem in allowing a doctor who was over in west africa treating ebola
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patients to just self-monitor when he comes back and then only when he feels symptomatic does he self-quarantine. isn't that a%.s8h little reckle? isn't there any mandatory quarantine when you return from treating ebola patients in west africa? >> well, it's a little bit unusual to xhqñme. i would think we would keep our eyes and ears on such an individual for a period of time. i'm a little bit surprised that allowed to just come back into the country willy nilly. but i think we are hearing there are 15,000 to 20,000 people a day coming out of west africa into the united states and into europe. >> why is that the not making me feel better? >> well, it's not making me feel better either. >> let me just read you what th, cdc says. or doctors without borders, which is the group he was with. and i want to underscore to his
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credit he was trying to help people who many doctors don't want anything to do with. many people don't want anything to do with because they're worried. >> that's right. >> so to his credit he goes over there to try toey: lend his expertise and let's face it doctors don't get paid a lot of money. most of them these days do it out of the desire to help others. so he goes over there. but according to doctors without borders he comes back and that's the /n)zprotocol, engage in reg health monitoring. i see the mayor of$-añ new york coming out now andj- the gover of new york, mayor de blasio and left. two things on the agenda, ebola and possible terrorist attack in queens, new york today. let's watch and listen. good evening.
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for remarks i just want to note we are joined by governor andrew cuomo, by health commissioner mary bassive, health commissioner howard d+dbzucker the state of new york, and on the phone dr. tom frieden, the director of the centers for dr. frieden will address us after remarks by the rest of us. today, testing÷,qzs confirmed t tested positive for ebola. the patient is now here in bellevue .!åcyhospital. we want to state at the outset there is no reasone@c for new yorkers to be alarmed.b ebola is an extremely hard disease to contract. it is transmitted only through
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person's blood or other bodily fluids, not through casual contact. new yorkers who have not been exposed to an infected person's bodily fluids are not at all at risk. strongest public health system, the world's leading medical experts and the world's most advanced medical equipment. we have been preparing for months for the threat posed by ebola. we have clear and strong protocols which are being scrupulously followed and were followed in this instance. and bellevue hospital isr(0&y specially designed for isolation, identification and treatment of ebola patients. every hospital in the city is prepa prepared in the event that other patients come forward. the patient in question is a doctor who has worked with ebola patients in west africa. and when his symptoms emerged, he was taken to bellevue by specially trained emergency
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medical service, workers who followed all transport protocols. the patient is now in isolation. the health department has a team of disease detectives who have been at work tracing all of the patient's contacts. and we are prepared to quarantine contacts as necessary. there have been reports about the patient's movements and putting together the pieces of the timeline. but we emphasize again, ebola is very difficult to contract. being on the same subway car or living near a person with ebola does not in itself put someone at risk. we're working very closely with our state and federal partners to ensure that we protect the health of all new yorkers. people should rest assured the extraordinary medical professionals of this city and
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this state is ensuring every protection is in place. a moment of commentary in spanish before i turn to governor cuomo. [ speaking in a foreign language ]é9eg >> as we listen to the mayor repeat his message in spanish, we'll bring folks up to speed. it is confirmed that a doctor in new york city has tested positive for ebola. he apparently did follow the necessary protocols. that will lead to questions about whether those protocols are adequate. the mayor assuring new yorkers that they are safe, that they do not need to worry, that they do not need to panic.
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and we'll listen to the governor now weigh-in. >> -- preparing for just this circumstance. we were hoping that it didn't i5 happen, but we were also realistic. this is new york. people come to new york, they come to new york's airports. so we can't say that this is an unexpected circumstance. we have had a full coordinated effort that has been working literally night and day coordinating city, state and federal resources. coordinating and drilling from airports to transportations, to hospitals. so we are as ready as one could be for this circumstance. what happened in dallas was actually the exact opposite. dallas unfortunately was caught before they could really
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what they were dealing with in dallas. and we had the advantage of learning from the dallas experience. just the other day -- they've been long days, but i believe it was yesterday we had 5,000 health care workers being drilled on just this situation. we also had a fortunate affected person was a doctor. a doctor who worked on doctors without borders. so he was familiar with the possibility and the symptoms, et cetera, and he handled himself accordingly. our best information is that for the relevant period of time he was only exposed to a very few people, partially because he knew exactly what the illness was all about. and he was taking precautions on
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his own. as the mayorñlát mentioned, i k the word ebola right now can spread fear just by the sound of the word. ebola is not an airborne illness. it is contracted when a person is extremely ill and gl and is basically contracted through the bodily fluids. having had the time to prepare as we did, we have been fully coordinated all day long. i spoke with our new ebola czar who president obama appointed, ron klain. they were immediately attending cdc teams, sylvia burwell from the federal homeland security office have been fully coordinated. they've reviewed everything that we've been doing. we've 2st doing it with their advice.
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and we are after having spoken to everyone we are doing everything we need to be doing. i know it's a frightening situation. i know when you watch it on the news and it was about::zfñ dall was frightening. that it's here in new york, it's more frightening. new york is a dense place. a lot of people on top of each other. but the more facts you know, the less frightening the situation is. we've already acted very, very quickly and identified about four of the people who we believe -- we believe there are four people who he came in contact with during the relevanx period. and we are already in contact with all four people. so we feel good about the way we are handling the situation. obviously we wish the best for
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the doctor and quick recovery for the doctor. but for the public health point of view, i feel we are doing everything we should beçrúsdoin. and we have the situation under control. and i want to applaud the mayor and the mayor's team. also as a personal point of privilege thank my team for the good work. this has been weeks and weeks of preparation in getting a lot of agencies to work together, but the proof is in the pudding. and today it worked lábzç&l. so congratulations to them. >> thank you very much, governor. >> now i would like to turn to our new york city health commissioner, dr. mary basset preparations here in the city particularly working closely with bellevue as the lead institution -- >> and there you have it the governor saying that he is confident that the situation is under control and even offering -- lower her volume that would be helpful. we're going to stream that online. so if you want to hear the health commissioner, you can do that on foxnews.com. lower even further so the viewers can hear me without
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competition. in any event they say that the situation is under control, that they believe this infected doctor was only in touch -- pardon the pun, with four people, after he became symptomatic. you cannot spread ebola if you are not symptomatic. and even once you are symptomatic, you cannot spread ebola unless your bodily fluids get on or into another person while you are symptomatic. they believe only four people fit that bill for this doctor. there will be further reports of what his doingsf4ñ were over th past week or so. there have been some reports that he was vomiting. that he had diarrhea. that his fever was 103. exactly when did the symptoms start? exactly when did he feel under the weather? where did he go? who did he see? and exactly what is the extent of the so-called contact tracing that they are now doing? they say do not panic. they say there's no reason for
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it. they feel that the situation's under control now. and this doctor is in isolation tonight in bellevue hospital receiving treatment. i want to close out the last few minutes with dr. siegel who is outside the hospital at this hour. doctor, your reaction to the assurances we're receiving from the governor and mayor tonight? >> i want to agree that the only way to spread this is when you are -- it's no accident two nurses got this because the kind of care we give in the united states very close contact with bodily secretions, infectious with respirators, with changing the bedding all the time. that's why health care workers are most at risk. it's quite probable that no one is actually going to get it though his girlfriend is certainly at risk. these kind of assurances, i
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wanted to add back in the 14th century with the plague. do you know what they did? they took care of people that took care of plague symptoms and separated them from society for 14 days. they weren't allowed to see anybody. can't we do that here? you come back from west africa after treating b ining ebola pa- i don't think we should wait for symptoms. >> right. the governor's out there congratulating everyone. let's hope those congratulations are not premature. down in dallas they thought they had it contained too and then two nurses came down with the virus. they are said to be doing at least one of them much better tonight. but it may be early to be slapping each other on the back. dr. siegel, thank you. we appreciate it. there's been much breaking news tonight and in the last hour including this confirmed case of ebola in new york city. in addition to that we appear to have had an attack on two police officers -- we did have an attack on two police officers by a man wielding a hatchet said to
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have possible terror ties. it remains under@ftñw investiga. as a result of those breaking news items, we will be live again right here at 11:00 p.m. we hope you'll join us for that special broadcast as we work our sources between now and then. in the meantime, here's sean havd-;ver @r(t&háhp &hc% welcome to "hannity." this is a fox news alert. a doctor who recently traveled to west africa tested positive for ebola just a few hours ago right here in new york city.otì% case of the disease here in the u.s. now, a press conference is underway right now at the hospital. this is with new york cityj=aç r de blasio, new york city governor andrew cuomo and other officials. let's go back to that right now. >> -- the governor mentioned an additional person. this person was a driver of an l uber car with whom the patient had no direct physical contact and is considered not to be at risk.