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had two kids of her own, but at one witness put it, she was everybody's baby jessica 27 years old today, and if you're too young to remember that, it means nothing to you. wow, 27 years ago? hoo. >> the guy at the center of the ebola storm getting grilled on capitol hill, and the one thing the lawmakers want to know. why no travel ban from ebola-stricken regions right now. >> do you know in this country how many we can happen? >> our goal is for no patients -- >> i understand. as long as we don't restrict travel and we're not quarintining people and not limiting their travel, we still have a risk. >> we're able to screen them, collect their -- >> what if i don't come back? a lot of people come in this country and we lose track of them. they don't come back. what happens then? >> you're right. needs to be solved in africa. until it is we should not be
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allowing these folks in. >> is the white house considering a travel ban? >> i can't speak for the white house. >> do you know if they ruled out a -- >> i can't speak for dos. >> have how had conversations. >> we discussed the issue of travel. >> welcome everyone, i'm in for neil cavuto, and this is "your world." it appears the cdc director was as a loss for words when asked if he had spoken to president about a travel ban. the white house today still adamantly against one. but our mocks news medical a team says we need one pronto. but i don't think you're going to get it. >> he's going to followed his cars and have to do this partly because this will continue to become a drama and more doctors and nurses will come up with ebola, there has been a lot of exposure. and we're also heading toward the flu season. this whole idea about fever of 101.5, 99.5, it's going to be very confusing, and if you don't
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stop this by mid-november, or toward the end of november, once you hit the holiday season, -- >> you said if you don't get the travel ban by mid-november it's all over. >> going to affect our economy and also going to be a major national crisis. so you have to take this seriously. >> now, josh antiwas asked about, can our medical people take care of this? here's his response. >> should be confident in the ability of our medical infrastructure to deal with ebola cases as they arrive. >> now, doctor, you say that our medical people are not prepared. in fact you just handed me this, a large sheet of notes hereby that you only received last week on how to deal with ebola. >> there's no question that we have isolation rooms and we can take our patients that have very basic infections in our facilities, but when it comes to
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very complicated virus, such as ebola, all across the u.s., the hospitals are not completely prepared. some are more prepared than others. i think the best thing that can happen is for every state have a couple of ebola treatment centers, just what we're building over there we should have them here, and the minute the patient comes in, triage them and have experts take them to those dream centers. negative pressure rooms -- >> not doing that at the moment. >> not doing it. they expect every hospital to take care of patients on their own and that's where you'll have exposures, more nurses and doctors exposed to this. it's going to affect the healthcare system, the hospitals. a bad decision. >> why was nina pham, the nurse, moved to bethesda, maryland. i why was miss vinson moved to atlanta? >> those four places have the most expert niece biocontainment. they know how to gear up and take their gear off. they have hours and hours of
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training. they know exactly how to manage body fluid and how to get rid of wastes. >> if we don't get a travel ban at all, even by mid-november, what happens. >> i don't like that question. that's part of the reason why i said, mr. president, bring up those walls. you heard me say this before. america has tore down the walls for the sake of freedom. the way you take care of this is isolate and contain it where it starts from. until we get our vaccines, until we get our medications, bring up those walls and you have to protect the american people. that's the important thing. don't ease up on that. >> doctor, thank you for being here. still no travel ban. now, word that u.s. embassies in ebola hot zones, guinea sierra leone, liberia, are processing up to 100 visa applications daily. if approved those people would be free to come to the united states.
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the chairman of the house foreign affairs committee, firing off this letter to secretary of state john kerry. he wants those visa places halted temporarily to help stop the spread of the disease, ed royce sent the letter and joins me now. sir, is it similar in effect, travel ban, and a stopping of visas? is the end result about the same? >> yes, it is, but, stuart, this is something you would think the administration would have done at the outset. and i say that because in 2009, when h5n1 influenza, we suspended visas in, for example, one of the consulates to mexico. why? because we knew that people who were infected might fly to the united states. so until that situation got under control, there was a suspension. the question i've had is why at the outset of the ebola
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pandemic -- why we didn't quit issuing those travel visas, and to this we have not received a response yet. >> the argument which we have been hearing as to why you don't have a travel ban and why there is no halting of the visas, if we stop ebola cases coming here, we can't deal effectively with ebola cases over there. do you get that argument? >> i don't because, a., you could have charter flights obviously take our healthcare professionals that are helping on the ground over there, but the more obvious case is why would you stick to a position -- there isn't an inalienable right to travel or tourism to the united states. that's a privilege from part of the world especially where at this point in time you have a pandemic. it is only common sense to issue an order to take a time-out on issuing those visas. the fact that the administration has not done that gives us the
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impression that none of this is being thought through, because the most important containment strategy to its contain it there, and the other element is to get the airports, of course, in europe to do the monitoring that needs to be done there for flights in, but these things seem to me self-evident, and that's why i'm calling for an immediate follow of the procedure. 19 times in the past that i've seen, we have had regional conflicts or the flu, and decisions were made to put the issuing of visas on hold. certainly we should be doing that right now. >> the pressure is mounting. thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >> frontier airlines finally taking the ebola plane out of service but it's not coming cheap. to jerrell the in the box innocence network news room. >> we are getting interesting details now out of frontier
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airlines and the ceo. this would remind everybody is texas nurse amber vinson, 29 years old, she flew from dallas, up to cleveland, on friday, october 10th. she also flew frontier back from cleveland to dallas on monday, october 13th. here's what the airline has issued in a statement in particular, how they're handling the situation. this is the the ceo. he said, quote-unquote, since we were notified by the cdc we pro-active live placed six crew members, on paid leave for 21 days leave for -- that was over and above cdc guide against. something else here they talk about. they talked about the root of the -- route of the aircraft after amber was on the plane. the flight lands in dallas mon, october 13th. the aircraft went back up to cleveland the next morning.
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then from cleveland down to fort lauderdale. from fort lauderdale to cleveland, from cleveland to atlanta, and from cleveland back -- from atlanta to cleveland. the plane is out of service. they're cleaning it for the fourth time and the ceo said they also now removing the seat covers and all of the carpets in that aircraft. you mentiones cost. taking an aircraft out of service for any airline for that amount of time is going to amount to millions of dollars in losses. this is a big week for airlines. not just for the stock market. another rough day for the stock market. about for airlines we're starting to get earning statements, and delta airlines came out this morning, the ceo of the company, on the conference call, was asked, are you going to take a hit bus of fears of flight? he said, no. in fact, we believe that we are still going to have strong bookings. we're not concerned of ebola on the bottom line. delta is trading higher by 2.9%.
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united 2.8%. these airlines bouncing back today, a volatile week for them and the cheap fuel prices, i got to tell you, unfortunately that is not going to help the bottom line the ebola epidemic spreads. >> catch sheryl on the fox business network. if you're not sure where to find it, log on to fox business.com slash channel finder. >> is the president's refusal to ban travel giving senate democrats more trouble? see what just happened in the rockie mountain state. the republican in that racer here. >> we a saw what happened when democraticside allison grimes refused to say if she voted for the president in kentucky. is the same thing about to happen in georgia? >> did you vote for president obama in 2008 and 2012. >> would would you leave her alone? 24/7 it's just i'm a little reluctant to try new things.
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did you vote for president obama in 2008 and 2012? >> would you leave her alone? >> ma'am, ma'am. >> hmm. not so peachy for the president in georgia now michelle nunn is mum on whether she voted for him. just like kentucky senate candidate allison grimes. democrats pulled money out of her race and put it in nunn's race. is this a bad time? you're not worried, mark, when a democrat senator, candidate for the senate, two of them, both refuse to say whether or not they voted for president obama when they clearly voted for president obama. >> i'm not forked for michelle nunn because she is polling ahead of her republican rival right now.
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absolutely. president obama's approval ratings are in the tank in georgia. >> a good tactic for a candidate to deny they voted for the president -- >> a good tactic is to debate the public policy issues and play gotcha hole ticks. did you shake hand with the president, ever said anything nice about president obama. >> did you listen to what he calls it, gotcha politics. i if you're a democrat running for the senate and you voted for the democratic policy. this is a very big deal for democrats. the latest poll from the "washington post," abc, ended four days ago and has the president as a whopping 57% disapproval. when you're at almost 60%, that's horrendous and that was before the ebola stuff took off. >> do you think that disagreement with president obama is costing democrats votes in these races? >> i think at this point, if there were democrats who who disagree it would help them. the fact they can't admit they
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voted for him, they don't know what the president is going to do next that is going to hurt their party and they're frozen. >> mitch mcconnell right now, in kentucky, the definition of an establishment republican, his favability is at 29%. so it's true that the president is not as popular in southern states or in georgia or kentucky. >> or nationwide. >> absolutely. and there are real differences in this democratic party. this is a big tent: you have michelle nunn, the ceo of george h.w. bush points of light foundation, taking on a multimillionaire who has made a living ships jobs overseas which is what purdue has done. he has sent trips to hong kong and is running for senate in georgia. this is why she is polling -- >> i wouldn't give you an example of democrats running away from president obama. this is from the gardner debate in colorado. roll tape. >> i just want to remind
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congressman guarder in he is running against me, not barack obama, not my father, not harry reid, it's congressman guardianer and myself. >> the president says his policies are going to be on the ballot. the president said that. when you vote as many times you have with the president, 99% of the time you are tied hook, line and sinker to the president, who admitted you're together on the ballot. >> that's running from the president. >> the voters in georgia and cub don't care -- just like the president -- >> don't care debt. >> don't care as much as bone bone -- let me finish -- about the schools they're kids are going to, the jobs they're getting -- >> precisely. of radicalwill ago to support republicans -- look at -- >> stuart, if i may. democrats are in a panic. they know the president is messing up, a we speak, on the
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ebola, at the crisis at the border, messing up overseas, messing up with israel, in the middle east, and democrats don't know what he is going to -- >> if the republicans are putting eggs in the ebola basket -- no no. no. don't take my words off concept -- [overlapping speakers] >> this -- hey have nod dos excuse me run senators may want to come back to washington to address this because the president is falling. >> what's they're alternate? >> the october -- >> protecting americans. >> that was the last word. mark, sherry, thank you very much indeed. >> thank you. >> have we learned anything? why is this guy circled right there armed with nothing but a clipboard, feet from the latest ebola patient? trace just found out who these guy is. after three hours of grilling, is a travel ban coming? colorado's senate candidate cory gardner one of those doing the
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no hazmat suit but he had a clipboard. a flurry of questions about this man standing feet from the second ebola patient without protective gear. who is he? to trace gallagher with the answer. >> reporter: amber vinson was taken to atlanta's emory hospital from dallas by phoenix air med-evac team, and we're told that phoenix air med-evac has three person teams. two take care of the patient and the third person is actually the safety coordinator so the guy with the clipboard with no protective clothing is the safety coordinator. his job is to make sure that the med-evac team and patient are safe on the tarmac and the reason he is no not protective
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clothing is he is the team's eyes and ears and because of the plane noise and all the cargo vehicles out there, he had full protective gear on he would not be able to see and hear everything. the company says, he actually grabes some items from them. you can see him reaching over. those were likely just medical records and he was at a safe distance, but the camera angle makes him appear closer. add 20 pounds? makes you appear closer to the ebola patient? once they're on the plane, we're told the patient is in an air-tight chamber and anybody who is outside the chamber can then just wear their street clothes. phoenix air med-evac says they have transported ten ebola patients and they have never had an issue. so he really is further away than he looks, even though he reached back and grabbed something from guys in the protective suits. >> thank you, trace. the cdc director very much on the hot seat.
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to one of the guys trying to get answers, colorado candidate cory gardner. we called his opponent, senator mark udall, and he was unable to join us. good to see you, sir. i know you were involved in the questioning today. doesn't look like we're going to get a travel ban from this white house anytime soon, does it? >> i don't understand why the white house, why the cdc is opposed to a travel ban. you listen to the excuses the cdc director said, we want do it because of personnel and supplies. when i asked what number of flights, personnel and supplies were entering the u.s., he said he didn't know. how can he oppose a travel ban on something he doesn't know the answer to. >> is a travel ban going to be an issue in your campaign in colorado? >> this is not about politics. this isn't about an election. this is about, as the doctor from the fda said, global -- tragic global event and that's what have to do to prevent this
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from becoming more tragic, and a travel ban would protect the people of this country from further harm. >> in your race against senator udall you made a strong point about mr. udall being closely tied with president obama. you tried to run against president obama. president obama does not want a travel ban. sure surely this has become politicizees in your race. >> my problems with senator udoll dale include the fact he voted 99% of the time with barack obama but this transcends poll sicks and we have to make sure we're protecting the people of the country and the world from further spread of what is a horrible, horrible virus. >> john boehner spoke with the president today and urged him to ban travel from the hot zones of west africa. your comment on that? >> i think the speaker is wise to do that. i think the president would be ice to listen to advice of speaker boehner and implement the travel ban. further reasoning that the director of the cdc gave today, almost sounds like they would --
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if this were a school district, it almost sounds like they'd rather gather up the children with chickenpox, put them in the school and allow them to stay there and infect other children instead of keeping them home and away from other people. this is something i think we need to put in place as a restriction of some kind to protect the american people. makes sense. we know we can do and it would protect the people from, again, further spread. >> in your race in colorado, the normally left-leaning denver post actually indoorsed you, and then gary hart wrote to the denver post and ripped into you, saying you are not a serious candidate. would you like to respond to that? >> well, again, think there was an article in politico about gary hart ruining politics, and everybody knows his claim to fame. aim not worried about what gary hart says and he can take his monkey business other places. >> are yous again president obama?
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are you taking aim at president obama as the leader of the democrats. >> if you look at the president, he himself has said his policies are going to be on the ballot. the policies of his administration will be voted on and that's something that people will fill out the ballots they have in the mail today in colorado over the next several weeks, leading to november 4th they'll be voting on the failed leadership of barack obama and mr. udall who voted with him hook, line and sink. >> the word that the president is going to call of the national guard for west africa. >> that's something i need tolash more about. have not seen the decision by the president or the order to do that. but still makes me wonder why he is unwilling to put in a travel restriction to protect the people of this country. >> you seem rather soft-edged on this. if you're gung ho for a travel ban, why aren't you pounding the table? >> we certainly did the committee hearing and will continue to have to make sure we're not frightening the american people. this is a serious situation and
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want to make sure we do this right. i believe a travel ban is the right way to do it. i'm concerned be the fact that the director of the cdc said there were 150 people entering the country from the affected areas. 94% of them are going to be screened and at that rate there are going to be 2,000 to 3 anthony people who are coming into the united states whoa who will not go through the ebola screening and that's something we brought up at the hearing as well have to have more answers to make sure we're presenting the people. >> run consider you guarder in -- republican doctor cory gardner. are consumers declaring a war on wal-mart? will everyone pay? [chanting] he trains. he's psyched. ready for the knockout? you don't know "aarp." he's staying in shape by keeping his brain healthy and focused with aarp's staying sharp. with online mind sharpening exercises developed by the top minds in brain science.
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else, the parent can be held liable for it and. i think anybody that -- >> that means all parents must mob at the everything the kid puts on facebook -- >> i think it's time for monitoring. cyber bullying is out of control. >> i agree it's out of control but this issue came up in this case in georgia and in fact it's not the posting the parents are held combatable for. -- accountable for, it's the lack of supervision in this case there was a posting by the child, was not anticipated he would do these horrible things. the parents sued him and his own parents and the parents were held responsible, or may be hemmed responsible for the look of supervision telesms of the case is thrown out. >> i have a compromise. hold the parents liable if they saw something bad on the child's facebook buddied nothing about it. >> that's the point. >> that's a compromise.
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>> what a reasonable person would do to take the proper degree of care. so if you know that there's a behavior by your child, whether it's cyber bullying you have to monitor that. you can't put other people or children in harm's way. >> are you okay with that? >> i'm okay with that bus when the parent knew or should have known of the existing content, they should be responsible, but practically speaking -- i'll concede -- how can you know everything your child is doing on the internet? >> that obligation hasn't been put on the parents. in this case they didn't know and weren't responsible. that was thrown out. when they did know the postings stayed up for 11 months, stuart. and nothing was done. >> that's where they were negligent. >> what does cause harm? if i say something nasty about someone, they -- can they saw me because i'm nasty. >> if your child posts defamatory material about
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another child or cyber bullies another child -- >> what is defamatory. >> i tell you. in this case put up a fake facebook posting, allegedly, of a girl and made her fat, put racist comments that were attributed to her, and that is a defamatory statement. >> okay. >> wasn't a statement made by -- >> in this case were the parents aware -- >> day were not aware of the initial posting but once they were made aware the posting stayed up for 11 months. >> the compromise is okay. if you know what they're doing and do nothing about it, you're liable. >> here's my point, take an extra step and watch what they're doing and look at the histories because i think this case is going to lead to offshoot case law where there is more liability put on parents. >> that is a point of view and not a point of law. >> or a point of fact. >> practicing trial attorney. i think it's coming down the
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on capitol hill. bruce braley, a democratic congress onman, was a big critic, saying they should have acted more quickly to deal withing this crisis, specifically down in texas, and also around the country, getting the nation prepared for this, and that's significant because he is one of the -- in the house right now but is running for the senate in iowa, one of those critical seats the democrats have to hold on to if they want to keep the majority. he was on the campaign trail with first lady michelle obama and is now at the hearing beating up on the administration. the person in the hot seat was the cdc director, thomas frieden, answering questions about misstatements, and i pressed josh at the white house, who is going to be held conditionable for these mistakes. listen? >> we have seen this with other stories. we messed up. somebody dropped the ball. we fum belowed, and a -- fumbled, and a person is not
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held accountantable. >> you have seen dr. frieden take responsibility for the cdc not performing up to expectations. at the same time the cdc has been focused of instances dr. freeden taking responsibility. the have focused on this since march. >> interesting the point the finger at dr. freeden there who has acknowledged shortcomings. the have repeatedly at the white house in recent days expressed full confidence in dr. freeden, we will certainly see if this continues what the president is trying to do cancelling the fundraisers showing action in the last few moments he signed an executive order to call up the national guard, speed up the deployment to west africa to deal with ebola at the source. interesting because it doesn't mean necessarily more u.s. troops going. he's already authorized up to 3900 u.s. troops to and go deal with this. but they're trying here to show action. certainly his republican critics think it took too long, stewart. >> henry, thank you very much
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where you can. so you can invest in the life that you want today. tap into the full power of your fidelity greenline. call or come in today for a free one-on-one review. with ebola fears up, some schools are closing up. to alicia acuna with the latest on that. alicia? >> reporter: hi, stewart, at least three schools in central texas have shut down. this all goes back to that flight that nurse amber vinson took the night before she checked herself into a hospital with a fever. that's because there were some students that were on that flight with vinson and the went to school in the days after. this prompted the closures. the district says they are disinfecting classrooms and buses. some parents are calling for those kids to be in quarantine. but the bell county health department disagrees. >> to isolate them or put them
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in a quarantine situation when they've had no direct contact with any body fluids from this case is way overboard. >> reporter: a school district in ohio is dealing with a similar situation. two schools in the northeastern part of the state are closed after one of the staff members may have been on the same plane that vinson was on but a different flight. that was the same plane after it was put back in the air. there was also this. >> the health department earlier this morning notified us that a parent at the school had spent time with patient amber vinson when she visited the area this past weekend. her child did not have contact with ms. vinson but has been quarantined as a precaution with the mother and both are being monitored by the department of public health. >> reporter: doctors here at
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texas presbyterian as well as the cdc have emphasized to parents and the public in general it is very difficult to contract ebola unless you are in very close contact with the bodily fluids of someone who is very contagious in that very contagious stage, stewart. so the really want people to know that it is highly unlikely that anyone would have contracted ebola while she was in the air. but these are all again safety precautions that people are taking. stewart? >> do you know if these school closures were at the behest of the parents expressing anxiety? was this a parental push for closure? >> reporter: there has been a parental push, whether or not it was an exact response to that push we don't know. the district is saying this is in abundance of caution just to make sure because these students were in close vicinity and parents do get concerned. >> got it. alicia, thanks. to dr. rob robby ludwig, are
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you of the mind that says all children of all ages must be talked to about these kind of issues like ebola? i would say you have a 5 or 6-year-old child you don't go rattling on about ebola to somebody as young as that. >> good point. for somebody who's younger, you want to find out what the know about it. the may not know a lot about what's going on with ebola. you want to monitor also what they're seeing on television. >> you wouldn't want to question a 6-year-old what do you know about ebola. you wouldn't say that. >> no. but i have kids who are betweens and teens and the brought it up to me. as a parent you want to be cognizant if your child is bringing it up. the brought it up in a humorous way. i realized the were trying to deal with their anxiety about it. but really kids respond to how their parents are reacting to something. so if a parent is calm and has good information, a child will feel more protected and comfortable. >> what do you actually say? what are the words used? what's the tone used to -- let's use for example a 12, 13,
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14-year-old youngster. the subject comes up, what do you say? >> it's not airborne. this is very hard to get. we're taking a lot of precautions. we have the best people in the world that are looking at how to treat ebola. as parents we will keep your safe. wash your hands. this is like the silver lining. parents can say the best way to keep yourself safe in general from any type of cold or illness, wash your hands. get good sleep. make sure that your eating properly so that your immune system is strong. >> you wouldn't say that to a 12-year-old. >> i would. and i have. >> make sure you're eating the right things? >> oh, please you should see in my house. go to sleep. please go to sleep. >> would you actually say that to a child in a coopizatinversa about ebola get enough sleep? >> i would sense their anxiety level. you try to give a child a sense of what the have control over. the have control over washing their hands. the have control over understanding it's not airborne and it's very hard to get.
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>> how about a 5, 6, 7-year-old? >> well you then say listen, mommy and daddy are going to make sure you're protected and safe just like we always do. so you just communicate to them parents are there to keep kids safe and you will honor that agreement. not in those records but basically you're there to keep them safe and you're going to continue to do that. >> if it comes up you'd start saying something. but you wouldn't introduce that subject in conversation unless they've asked about it? >> right. young kids. >> right. with young kids i would find out what the know about it. because you don't want to induce fear. your job as a parent is to make them feel comfortable. but keep the communication lines open so your kids know the can talk to you if they're nervous or worried about something. this miebt one of the many topics the get anxious about. >> dr. robby ludwig, good advice. thanks for being here. tonight on my show we'll be talking about these school closings with a congressman who represents akron, ohio.
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what he makes of how his district is handling the scare. that would be 11:00 a.m. eastern sharp on the fox business network. that would be varney and company. fbn. "the five" is next. i'm dana perrino along with kimberly gillfoyle and -- it's new york city and this is "the five". ebola is not an epidemic in the united states but there is a crisis of communications for the administration in charge offer handling the preparations, treatment and response to the problem. today the head of the cdc faced concerned lawmakers on capitol hill. take a look. >> trust and credibility of the administration and government are waning as the american public loses confidence each day with demonstrated failures of the current strategy. >> it would be an understatement to say that the response to the first u.s.-based patient with

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