into the army's investigation into sergeant bergdahl. again, thanks for watching us tonight. ms. megyn is next. i'm bill o'reilly. remember the spin stops here. we're definitely looking out for you. breaking tonight, the president's battle plan in the middle east takes a major hit as former defense secretary leon panetta suggests that mr. obama's own actions are directly to blame for the chaos we are seeing today. welcome to "the kelly file" everyone. i'm megyn kelly. it was just weeks ago that when questioned about the vacuum left in iraq after all u.s. troops left, president obama declared that removing the troops wasn't his decision. >> what i just find interesting is the degree to which this issue keeps oncoming up as if this was my decision. so let's just be clear the

reason that we did not have a follow on force in iraq was because the iraqis were -- a majority of iraqis did not want u.s. troops there. and politically they could not pass the kind of laws that would be required to protect our troops in iraq. >> but secretary panetta who served as both secretary of defense and cia director under president obama says the pentagon and the state department both wanted a residual force, but the president did not. he writes in his new book, worthy fights that as he and others were objecting to the complete withdrawal of the troops "the president's team at the white house pushed back. and the difference is occasionally became heated. and those on our side viewed the white house as so eager to rid itself of iraq that it was willing to withdraw rather than lock in arrangements that would preserve our influence and interests."

earlier tonight i spoke with jen paski, spokeswoman for the state department. thank you very much for being here. we appreciate it. so your reaction to that direct accusation by the former cia director and secretary. >> well, megyn, let me first say that secretary panetta is someone who has had such a distinguished and well-respected career in public service and a range of positions as you know. but what happened in 2011 was that there were two major factors, one was iraq is a sovereign country. they decide with cooperation with the united states of course what kind of presence there would or wouldn't be. the second is we didn't have the troop protections that we needed. there were legal challenges there. there was a desire to have that go through the parliament. and that just wasn't going to be politically possible. >> but the reason it wasn't politically possible, and this is what mr. panetta is saying and what secretary gates said and what many have said, the reason it wasn't possible is because the number of troops being offered by the administration, by president obama, was so paltry and so

under what the pentagon was recommending, what the state department was recommending, that it was a joke for maliki. he couldn't take the political risk of going back and say give them immunity, they're going to give us 5,000 troops when our pentagon was saying, mr. president, you need to give them at least 24,000, the least option we have available to us is 10,000 but that is not wise. and the president ultimately said we'll do five and maliki said no deal. how do you blame that on maliki? >> well, look, one, i think a number of people including secretary panetta have spoken to that exact question over the course of the last couple of years. >> he has. and it's not favorable to the president what he's saying. >> well, we're not placing blame on anyone. the facts are the facts here. >> that's what we're trying to get to. it's not about blame, it's about accountability because the president is very focused on what we do right now about the problem in the middle east, and that's good. but the question also has to be answered how did we get here. and you know what people say. they think we got here because

the president pulled all of those troops out of iraq over the recommendations of generals, over the recommendations of his pentagon, his defense secretary, over the recommendations of bob -- of gates. and instead of doing what everyone was telling him to do, he pulled us out of there because politically he wanted out of the middle east. >> megyn, the facts just don't align with that. the fact is none of those individuals you named would have left our troops there without the protections they needed. >> he offered more troops they would have gotten the protection. that's their allegation. >> we could not force iraq, a sovereign government, to accept a presence there. >> we had offered a greater presence, we would have gotten the immunity. >> that is an accounting of what happened three years ago that's just not consistent with what happened three years ago. >> how so? >> there were issues we couldn't get through. there were issues that did not allow us to have the presence there that was broadly supported including by the president, otherwise secretary of state, the secretary of defense wouldn't have supported it. >> let me -- but this is the

issue. our general said we need 24,000. the president said i'm not doing that. that's too many. they said the bare minimum is ten. he went back to maliki with five. maliki was politically exposed because a lot of the iraqis were like the americans immunity, he needed it to be a substantial enough force that he could take the political risk. 5,000 wasn't going to do it. if we had offered 24,000, we would have gotten the immunity. and we would have had a status of forces agreement. >> one, there's no way to know that. that's an accounting of fact -- or accounting of details that isn't consistent with many people who were there at the time. and regardless even if we had had a presence there, had a residual force there, that would not have prevented and changed the facts that we've seen over the last eight months. >> that's not what mr. panetta says. >> we had 150,000 -- 175,000 troops in iraq during the surge, as you know. there was still a risk from al

qaeda. they were still having successes on the ground. >> much different scenario. we had basically won the war after those 175,000 troops were there. we had won. the vice president said that iraq can go down as the administration's greatest success. things changed after we did the surge in iraq. we were doing much better. and then the president's critics say we snatched defeat from the jaws of victory because we pulled out the troops and there was no one there to protect the gains. >> but, megyn, are you arguing that 10,000 troops or 5,000 troops or 25,000 troops would have prevented, would have been able to fight back against isil when 150 or 175,000 couldn't have held back entirely al qaeda? >> it's not megyn kelly arguing it. it's leon panetta who is in a much better position to know. he talks about how i voiced to the president this country could become a new haven for terrorists to plot attacks against the united states if we withdrew all the forces. isn't that exactly what happened? >> that is not what happened. also, the growth of isil was not

just in iraq, it was because of safe havens in syria where they were allowed to grow and prosper for the last couple of years. >> there are issues there too. about the president not enforcing the red line he set. but i'm focused on iraq because that's what mr. panetta is talking about. the president when he was running for re-election, jen, went out there and had a debate with mitt romney in which mitt romney said i think you agree with me that we should have had a status of forces agreement that would have left these troops in iraq. the president denied it. the president didn't say, you're right, i did want one. but maliki and so on and so forth. let me play the exchange for you. >> with regards to iraq, you and i agreed, i believe, that there should have been a status of forces agreement. >> i didn't. >> oh, you didn't agree to a status of forces agreement? >> no, what i would not have done is left 10,000 troops in iraq that would tie us down. that certainly would not help us in the middle east. >> there it is.

>> well, megyn, the facts are that the secretary of state, the secretary of defense at the time, many other members of the administration would not have been negotiating with the government of iraq about having a presence there if it wasn't supported by the president of the united states. >> that's not what mr. panetta says though, jen. this is your department. he's saying in his book that state and pentagon, and defense, were on the same page. that the folks at the white house who worked for the man who ran -- who ran on the promise of getting us out of iraq, that they were in a heated disagreement and they couldn't convince the white house that if we didn't keep these troops there, this was going to create a vacuum that would create a safe haven for the terrorists. they couldn't convince them. and now leon panetta, an honorable man, you don't think he's misleading us in his book, do you? >> i think i just stated how honorable he is. >> right. so why can't we just accept that that is what happened and talk about why it happened. why is there a disagreement? why does the president come out to try to tell us now that he

wasn't responsible for this decision when he sat across from mitt romney and said, yes, i made the call because i didn't want to get bogged down in the middle east with 10,000 american troops still there? >> well, megyn, first of all the facts of what happened on the ground at the time i should say or that we didn't have the protections for troops to remain there. >> because we were in agreement -- >> that is just simply not consistent with what happened at the time. there are a range of people who were involved in this. >> including leon panetta. and he says it happened the way i'm saying it. >> megyn, first of all, there were events that didn't allow us to keep the troops there. there are accounts that people look back and say it could have, should have, would have, we couldn't keep troops there because the iraqi government did not want to have troops there. period. >> we're replowing old ground. but let me ask you this, this is one of the reasons why, you know, people are focused on this. you can see it in the polls. people want to understand what's happening. and they're worried, obviously. everybody's worried. >> of course. >> because president bush was

asked even today by our own -- who interviewed him about why he didn't withdraw the troops. why he thought it was important to leave them there. and he referenced with mr. bush an earlier prediction he made back in 2007. i want to play the exchange because it just happened today. and get your reaction to it. standby. >> you knew it in 2007. in fact, this is george bush, president george bush in 2007 before the surge. you're trying to tell people we need a surge. and here's why. here's what you said. and here's how accurate it is. >> begin withdrawing before our commanders tell us we're ready, it would be dangerous. it would mean we would be risking mass killings on a horrific scale. it would mean we allow a terrorist to establish a safe haven in iraq to replace the one they lost in afghanistan. it would mean increasing the probability that american troops would have to return at some later date to confront an enemy that is even more dangerous. >> how did you know? >> well, i know the nature of

the enemy. >> wasn't president bush exactly right? >> well, megyn, it's hard for me to believe that president bush would have left troops in iraq without the protections they needed. it's hard for me to believe that he would have been able to convince the iraqi government to have a presence there when they clearly didn't want to have one there. so we're back at the same place where there were challenges that prevented us from having a residual force. and we don't believe it would have prevented the circumstance that we've been dealing with over the last eight months. >> jen, it's been fun having you on. i appreciate it. all the best to you both. >> our pleasure. great to be here. thanks, megyn. >> much on my twitter feed. it's going nuts. facebook too. let us know your thoughts. facebook.com/thekellyfile during the break. fox news today got ahold of a special bulletin sent to military families across the united states with a warning about a threat from the terror group isis. catherine herridge and buck sexton are next on what prompted

this new alert. plus, last night we heard some stunning stories from a man who says he worshipped at the same mosque as the oklahoma beheading suspect we will dig deeper on the possible motives behind this crime. >> to the public, the mosque will not promote terrorism or any kind of radical acts. but when they're among friends but when they're among friends and con ggregates only, they wie a simple question:

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we've had the chance to go through the advisory from the army threat integration center. warnings to criminal and terrorist threats worldwide. warns military personnel and families to be vigilant as the islamic state also knowns a isis or isil called on its supporters to target their homes. it reads in part isil has called to use the yellow pages, social media sites to find the addresses of service members, show up at their homes and slaughter them. there's no independent corroboration of the isis threats, the bulletin advises more than a dozen precautions that urge limit to view who can see their profile. daily schedules, contact information and to avoid applications to geolocate their positions. the threat level had not been raised adding this is a reminder

to stay vigilant to ensure the safety and security of personnel and communities. military source told fox news these warnings are taken seriously because increasing the cost of security is a strategic role for the al qaeda senior leadership. >> chilling, catherine. >> a former cia officer and specialist for the nypd intelligence division. he's now the national security editor at the blaze. that is just downright disturbing telling the military limit who can view your online profiles, don't post your schedules, don't allow the geolocaters in their homes now they're worried about being threatened. is this real? >> the threat is real. the proper response we saw from the military which is going to be vigilance. it shouldn't be fear. it's heightened because the status of the islamic state as a ground for plotting these kinds of attacks. also social media campaign is more far reaching, more slick and so far more effective than

anything we've seen before by terrorist organization. all that said we have had instances in the past where terrorist dwrups have in some cases successfully and others unsuccessfully because they were disrupted to try to have these kind of plots gebs military bases and personnel. it feels heightened because of the islamic state's power right now. >> obviously we have seen attacks in the name of islamic extremism like at ft. hood on our military. however, we also saw in england a military soldier walking down the treat minding his own business not performing in any official capacity get killed to death with a man wielding a hatchet who ran over the cameras with his bloody hands and admitted it. i mean, is this the next threat on the u.s. military here? >> this is the extension of the lone wolf threat of the united states and other al qaeda jihadist groups have been pushing for is people to self-radicalize. they're going to be a jihad of

one and not with any connection necessarily to an outside group or sponsoring of a group. >> over and over again you hear people say like in the oklahoma case, no connection to official al qaeda or isis has been established. well, who cares. that would be big if there were one. but if there isn't one it doesn't mean they're not a radical jihadist. >> the concern is usually the attack will be larger, mass casualties, training involved, resources giffen by al qaeda or the united states for example. in a lone wolf attack you have an individual who doesn't have the same level of operational security and may get tripped up which is what happened for example at the ft. dix plot in new jersey in 2007. those individuals were sloppy. they actually bought and fbi caught them assault weapons. they were going to go into the ft. dix base and kill as many service members and their family as they could. they were stopped. just a question of trying to pick out these lone wolves before and. the most you can do is be vigilant. >> at least the military is

trained to deal in combat. god forbid they were confronted in this fashion. walking down the street not expecting this kind of confrontation. how much of this is an attempt by these folks to scare? when you see the word slaughter them, i mean there's something sort of grandiose about it. are they trying to scare? >> no question they're trying to scare. the terrorizing part of terrorism is very much what they're going for. hoping we're going to constantly walk around in fear. if they go after the u.s. military, it's essentially going to be them requesting their own annihilati annihilation. and they may want that. it would actually be a strategic mistake for them. they may do it for them. we should be vigilant and not fearful. >> we were bombing syria until they started beheading our journalists. i can't imagine what they would do if they actually started slaughtering military personnel. >> they go after military families, we will end them. >> good to see you, buck. >> you too. just last night "the kelly file" heard stunning stories from a man who said he

worshipped at the same mosque as the oklahoma beheading suspect. tonight we will dig deeper on those allegations, plus the mosque responds. and a grand jury is now deciding a possible charges for officer darren wilson in the shooting death of michael brown. but wait until you hear what this town is now planning in case there is no indictment. and tonight, a school protest gets national attention because of one simple question. what lessons should our children be taught about american history? that's next.

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a tweet from a person claiming to be friends with the member of the grand jury. that tweet read "i know someone sitting on the grand jury of this case. there isn't enough at this point to warrant an arrest." suggesting that the grand juror was talking about the case, a big no-no. today, the person who we believe sent that tweet claims she had been hacked, even denying that she deleted the tweet in question and denying her entire twitter account. we were also hearing reports today that evacuation plans are being prepared ahead of the grand jury ruling. local media reporting that emergency preps are being made for unrest including possible evacuations from the city. whether officer wilson is indicted or not. oh, boy. developing tonight, we are watching a live school board meeting in colorado where students and teachers are protesting a possible change to u.s. history courses. they are upset that the school board is reviewing some history courses to make sure the

material includes some positive lessons about america's past. trace gallagher has more from our west coast bureau. trace. >> megyn, turnout was so high at the school board they streamed the meeting live to a big screen in the parking lot outside. with the newly elected conservative leaning school board wants is to create a new committee course material for history classes. at first the board wanted to promote citizenship, patriotism, benefits of the free enterprise system that should not encourage or condone civil disorder. but because of the controversy the board has removered all references to patriotism and civil disorder. but the board is still basically saying they want to limit left leaning curriculum that doesn't teach american exceptionalism and individualism. and instead focuses on bashing america. here's the board member who made the proposal. >> clearly our community is saying let's assure there's no censorship. and i agree with that. i have a great hope that our

conversation this evening will bring this board together and have us work on a great proposal that assures our community that all classes are taught with balance. >> again, back to a live look opponents which include many teachers, students and the aclu called the new proposal censorship accusing the board of trying to whitewash american history and not teaching things like slavery. and they say if you don't teach about civil disobedience you would exclude many pivotal events. listen. >> without civil disorder or obedience much of what we value today would not have been accomplished. womens rights would still be trying to take that leap forward as with african-american rights. >> the school board says the intent is not to exclude anything rather to give students a balanced perspective of history despite the crowd and the controversy unclear if they will hold a vote at tonight's meeting. megyn. >> trace, thank you. well, while all eyes have been on iraq and syria in recent

months, another foreign policy nightmare taking shape not far away. what could become our next big worry. plus, last night we heard stunning stories from a man who says he worshipped at the very same mosque as the oklahoma beheading suspect. up next, the mosque responds. >> the only time beheadings were discussed was in the means of which you confront thein infid that when you meet the unbelievers you should smite at their necks.

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of beheading a co-worker and injuring another woman. last night we spoke to a man who said he attended the very same mosque nolan did, worshipping there more than a decade ago and then returning as recently as 2011. here's just a little of what he had to say. and note at his request we have concealed his identity. >> to the public the mosque will not promote terrorism or any kind of radical acts, but when they're among friends and congregates only, they will promote the true teachings of islam. >> did they ever discuss the subject of beheadings? was that ever discussed? >> the only time beheadings were discussed was in the means of which you confront the infidel as it is related to in the quran that when you meet the unbelievers you should smite at their necks. there's a teaching in islam which is deception.

muhammad, the prophet of islam, himself even said that war is deception. and the reason that they are so deceptive is that when they cannot do jihad physically, they attempt to do jihad by means of stealth by endearing themselves to the media, endearing themselves to government, endearing themselves to the american people to slowly work their way in. but they all believe in their religion, which teaches that according to the ha bib and -- muslim that when you approach the nonbelievers, you must offer them a choice, to convert, to live under islamic rule and pay the poll tax and live in submission, or you will be fought against, which is jihad which is what you see now with isis and al qaeda and various other groups throughout the world. >> clearly this can't be true of everyone who attends this

mosque. they can't all be this radical. >> absolutely. not everyone asayyan hersi said herself, a muslim will choose to practice as much as they choose. the concept of jihad and choices that must be offered to nonmuslims was -- >> he's the old imam at this mosque? >> yes. he's now currently the imam of the islamic society of boston. >> which is where the tsarnaev brothers were going, the elder. >> that's correct. >> and he sounds like -- this is a picture of him on the screen. he specifically was a teacher there to you. an imam to you. what specifically did he say? >> he is the one that told me to not talk to the media about suicide bombings in palestine or israel. and he is the one that first told me about the concept of

jihad, the teaching of islam allows three choices to be made to nonmuslims. and eventually they're all going to have to make that choice to convert to live under islamic rule or die. >> well, those remarks have been slammed by some muslims. the islamic society of greater oklahoma city, the mosque in question, releasing a statement tonight stating "anonymous speakers making uncorroborated allegations against minority communities is as un-american as it gets. each and every allegation made against the mosque is false. the mosque is in good standing in our city and state. our imam from 19d 98 until 2001 during this time he preached islam's message of peace. and continues to be a force against violent extremism. as does the mosque. my next guest speaks out as a moderate muslim who worries about radicals hijacking her

faith. author of in the land of invisible women. good to see you again. i want to talk to you about this because the allegations that he made about how there's this difference between what happens at the mosque and what happens publicly by some of these groups was surprising to many of our viewers. is this something you've experienced? >> not directly in mosques, but it's chilling because what's going on in the united states at the moment is a tremendous battle, a battle to claim islam is legitimate. that battle is between islamists and those that practice civil islam or pluralistic. the believers become soldrs. that's quoting from a turkish poem erdogan endorsed. this could be an example of one. >> you are a muslim. you love your faith. >> i am indeed. >> you are an example of a moderate muslim who doesn't believe in jihad.

who doesn't go to mosques and plot jihad or secretly condemn israel. there are millions of others just like you, are there not? >> that's exactly right. and in fact in the united states most muslims are not affiliated with mosques. many of us make all of the observanc observances, particularly ramadan. and we're able to do that because of the freedoms and securities provided by liberal democracy like the united states. >> and yet why is it so hard for some, some within the muslim faith, to just acknowledge that there is this form of islam, this radical islam, this islamistism some call it, that doesn't look peaceful, doesn't sound peaceful and did you want bear any true relation to the peace-loving religion that you practice. >> because they think the islamists at the moment, those are the one who is are practicing an artificial fictional version of islam that is seeking a global caliphate, that does see democracy as a

threat, that does extinguish pluralism and diversity. they have control of the narrative. we had this discussion at rutgers earlier on this week. >> you were there with a guest our viewers know well, brooke goldstein, to speak about islam. and you as a muslim woman, as a doctor who's been in saudi arabia, i mean, all over the world, tell us about the reception you got. >> well, exactly right. i went there as exercising the very bare minimum of my faith, which is to quote the prophet muhammad to expose injustists and i was challenged by a muslim woman who attacked me for not being visibly muslim and questioning what right i had to speak about islam. never in my life in 40 years of visiting pakistan in, two years of living in saudi arabia, a decade traveling to the arab gulf has anyone challenged me on appearance. i was also accused by the same woman of stoking islamophobia by

bringing to attention the human rights. that's the example of silencing islamists try to pursue when muslims like me engage in public dialogue. >> is that a tactic? we've seen almost every time we do a subject on this -- we get all kinds of reports from cair, we're islamo phobic and everything else. >> exactly. it's an absolutely, i'd say malignant strategy. and very few people are brave enough to confront this. risk of all kinds of consequences. but calling me islamophobic, own evidence of their own delegitimizing. nowhere in the talk did i defame islam in any way. in fact, i got the muslim component of the audience to engage with me on islam. and they yet were waiting to attack the credibility of myself and your frequent contributor

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developing tonight rkts while much of the world is focused on the isis threat in iraq and syria, islamic radicals are becoming a real concern in another part of the world. three years after the liberation of libya and the ouster and death of lead eer moammar gadha, the african nation now is on the brink of a new nightmare. trace gallagher live in the west coast newsroom with the details. trace. >> megyn, when western leaders backed the uprising three years ago to overthrow moammar gadhafi, they were hoping it

would lead to a stable democracy in libya. and there were elections. but now after a long summer of fighting, those elected leaders have been pushed out of the capital of tripoli and barricaded themselves in a seaside town some 600 miles away. they're not exactly roughing it. they're holed up in a five-star resort reportedly smoking water pipes and conducting interviews near the swimming pool. lawmakers have international backing and are said to be discussing finances and passing laws including antiterror legislation. but while the legitimate government is trying to fight terror while seeking refuge, an opposition government with links to islamists has now taken over the capital, set up a foreign ministry and taken control of state-run television. they have also been endorsed by libya's top islamist and are trying to win hearts and minds by offering food and housing to the poor. experts say the power grab to share the country's vast oil wealth could easily lead to civil war and spiral the country deeper into chaos. critics say we broke it but

didn't own it. listen. >> translator: all of this would not have happened had the international community taken the situation in libya seriously and helped the government form a strong army and disarm the armed groups and helped arm the police. >> both sides are reportedly hoping dialogue can solve the crisis. both sides are also calling for more weapons. megyn. >> trace, thank you. joining me now with more, general mcinerney, good to see you tonight, sir. so libya, we went over there with a coalition, we bombed, we said they were hurting civilians, gadhafi died. they said please stay, nato, and help us work things out. nato said i don't really want to. we're out of there and now it's a hot mess. do i have it about right? >> you got it spot-on, megyn. remember we started out responsibility to protect 2,000 islamists that were in benghazi and gadhafi was going after

them. we broke it. and now you see what we have. we have chaos in libya. and unfortunately, i believe, the radical islamists are going to gain control. >> that's certainly how it looks when a democratically elected parliament holed up at a ritz carlton saying we're scared and can i get another cocktail? it doesn't look good. >> that's going to cascade throughout the rest of the middle east as we've seen in syria and what's going on in iraq. it is not looking good. fortunately we have general al sisi in egypt who is becoming a strong armed person getting rid of the radical islamist muslim brotherhood. but we are not giving him the assistance in the amounts that we ought to, megyn. that's very disturbing to me because they are really becoming to bowl work in the mideast right now. >> right. it's like a domino effect we've

seen them now take over in iraq, obviously we know what's happening in syria, now libya. the radical islamists have seized control. one wonders if we don't get involved militarily in all of these places, and, you know, query what it is an appetite for that, what the middle east is going to look like in in five or ten years. >> that's a great question. but that means the muslims themselves have got to solve this fight as your earlier interview in the segment before pointed out. the muslims themselves have got to get rid of radical islam. u.s. forces cannot do it. we can assist with air power and certain things like that, but the boots on the ground have got to be the moderate muslims in the middle east. they're the only ones that can really defeat radical islam. and if they don't stand up, which they have not, then they're going to have to live with the world that they're not going to like and clearly we're not going to like it. it will be a very dangerous world to us. >> general, thank you, sir.

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breaking tonight, we just learned that an american journalist working in liberia has tested positive for ebola and will be flown back to the united states for treatment. we are also learning more information about thomas duncan, the first american diagnosed with the illness and how he may have exposed a hundred others. dr. gill mobley, an urgent care physician dressed in full protective gear who traveled

through the airport in atlanta protested how health officials have been handling the threat of ebola. watch this. >> my name is dr. gill mobly. i'm an m.d. i'm an emergency trauma physician and microbiologist. i'm here this morning in the atlanta airport to put out a public call for action. i believe the cdc is being dishonest with us about the propensity of importing ebola cases to the united states. >> can you imagine the people of the atlanta airport seeing the doctor? fox news's john roberts has the very latest. john? >> and he just sailed right through security as well, megyn, more about what's going on in dallas. the family of thomas eric duncan under strict quarantine orders until november 19th, told to stay in their apartment. why? officials had told them to stay in their apartment, they wouldn't, told them not to send their kids to school and they did. so the state had to get tough. >> the actions that we took while unusual were appropriate. and they're there to, you know,

for the safety of the family as well as the safety of the public. >> now, of course the state is helping them out sending them food. they'll also have their apartment cleaned. they have been living for almost a week now amid the soiled bed clothes and soiled clothing. thomas duncan, not to mention whatever bodily fluids he left behind vomit, et cetera, before taken to the hospital last week. authorities have also added three more school aged children to the list of kids who are being kept out of school and monitored. this is three more kids brings to a total of eight now the number of school students. these from a different school district, may have come in contact with thomas eric duncan. and liberia's president now weighing in on all of this calling it "unpardonable" that duncan left liberia infected with ebola. they want him back in the country if he survives to be prosecuted. why? according to liberian officials he lied on this exit questionnaire that everyone has to fill out.

when asked a question, quote, have you spent time in the same room within one meter of any person with ebola, spent time with any ebola patient or had physical contact with an ebola patient, he answered no. authorities know four days before he left he helped a young woman who later died of ebola back into her home. he actually picked her up and carried her. between this and the screw up at the hospital where they misdiagnosed him a week ago when he first came in has a lot of people wondering if there are gaping holes in our public health safety net. >> wow. john, thank you. incredible. coming up next, an update on a very special group of veterans who you know. coming up next, an update on a very special group of veter you owned your car for four years. you named it brad. you loved brad. and then you totaled him. you two had been through everything together. two boyfriends. three jobs. you're like "nothing can replace brad!" then liberty mutual calls. and you break into your happy dance. if you sign up for better car replacement, we'll pay for a car that's a model year newer

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well, there was a big event in new york city last weekd, well, there was a big event in new york city last weekend, the annual tunnel 2 towers 5k run. 25,000 veterans, active military and others running to honor those who fight for our freedom. the foundation helps some of the most critically injured veterans serving our country. and they do it, the run, in honor of steven filler, a new york city firefighter who on 9/11 strapped on 60 pounds of gear to his back and ran through the brooklyn battery tunnel so determined was he to race to the world trade center in order to save lives. ultimately, he lost his own at the site. injured veterans, their family and friends and 2,500 west point cadets helped start this race. money raised goes to help build smart homes like this one that marine corporal j.b. kerns just moved into yesterday.

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prosecutors say alton nolen had just been suspended from his job. he cut off one woman's head and stabbed another woman before a manager shot him. prosecutors argue the death penalty is warranted because the murder was especially heinous. the funeral for the victim, 54-year-old colleen hufford is friday. hong kong's leader refusing to resign after pro-democracy protesters demanded he step down. they want more freedom to choose their leaders and less control from china's communist government. it's the biggest challenge to chinese authorities since it took control of hong kong in 1997. i'm marianne rafferty. "hannity" is up next. welcome to "hannity." this is a fox news alert. despite the rise of radical islam that we are witnessing now in the middle east and beyond, the white house is now doubling down on its accomplishment of decimating al qaeda. just yesterday our very own ed henry pressed white house secretary josh earnest ou