i'm sure that's the justification for it. again, a president is different. and a president should be willing to cancel his schedule at any time when circumstances demand it. >> all right. circumstances demand we end this interview. larry, always good to see you my friend. a lot more of this. hello i'm andrea tantaros with bob beckcle, greg gutfeld, eric bolling and dana perino. it's 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five." in case you didn't hear president obama has finally made a decision. he's not going to sit down with jimmy kimmel while out on the west coast due to serious issues on the international scene. that probably wasn't an easy decision because we know he sure does love doing late night. >> jay, i know you're very proud of your car collection. >> yeah. >> there's one piece that's missing. >> cool. >> this is the beast. what i drive in.

>> look at that. >> 180 looks good. >> thank you. >> that's where i am and i don't look so good at 180. >> you look sharp. >> you haven't seen me naked. >> we're going to keep it that way. >> now is not the time to make school more expensive for our young people. >> you should listen to the president. oh, as i like to call him the preezj of the united steezy. >> the president will be on a fundraising blitz while still out there. >> what about the president's time? what about the fact there's five work days this week and three of them he's fundraising? >> he's got his own airplane, he's got dedicated phone lines, he has senior advisers who will be accompanying him every step of the way to make sure he has access to the information and technology necessary to represent american interests in the midst of these challenging

international times. >> okay, greg you were cracking up when he responded to that. so i don't know if you're willing to weigh in on why it's funny. is it a bit of an issue that we're talking about the fact he's not doing jimmy kimmel instead of these international crises. >> i was cracking up because this belonged to dana. >> you put it on my side of the table. >> let's be honest. if he had done jimmy kimmel we would have made fun of him. now he's not doing jimmy kimmel and we're making fun of him. it's like not smoking going to a health conference. the question will always be his priorities. fundraising -- money always trump mayhem in his world. the u.s. is a macro level of chicago or detroit. as long as you can find a check somewhere you overlook the crisis.

perhaps if there was a fundraiser in the ukraine or a golf course in key he he would feel differently. the comfort food in his life is applause. he likes that feeling. that's why fundraisers are fun and talk shows are fun where the clapping is the loudest is where you'll find president obama. >> dana, i was thinking about this because we criticized him and a number of people have criticized the president forgoing on these late night shows and taking an unserious tact after benghazi. now he's not is going on jimmy kimmel. was that a smart move? >> that was right decision. they used the president's late night appearances to great effect. it propels him to huge popularity. it helped him -- remember when he went on that helped the obamacare goal.

they shaped that narrative that the president is good at it. the thing is he doesn't have to do it any more right now. one of the reasons he did that was to achieve thing. the kimmel appearance seemed to be because he was going to be in california might as well put something on the schedule. it was the right decision to not do it. but do i think he'll do a lot of it in the future and it will be to his benefit to do so. but this one i would have taken a pass on tight. >> eric, he's getting some sharp critique from the left, senator diane feinstein has some harsh words from the capitol hill, from the senate chamber about the president deciding not to focus on these crises. take a listen. >> look, i'm not going to tell the president what to do but i think the world would very much respect his increased attention on this matter. i think the leader of the free world has to be strong and this is a time where strength is

necessary. >> how can that when you have diane feinstein -- >> it doesn't help. i assume she means he could be killing some of these fundraisers. he doesn't. the president has checked out. he's a lame duck president who is completely lame. he'll do his thing. really, you're going to kill the jimmy kimmel appearance but have a tour of the west coast and when you go to the texas you don't want to go the border. he doesn't want to lead. he doesn't want to be president to lead us through the times of crisis where it's crisis after crisis. next month, i don't know, if he really means it that kimmel is a bad idea, next month he's going to martha vineyard. 16, 18 days there, that's his 140th day on vacation, five months on vacation. if we're in dire straits where you need to kill a jimmy kimmel appearance, kill a martha

vineyard's vacation. >> the more crises ensurks the more the president checks out. you're crying for me to go to the border i'm deliberately not going to go. this is one way he can check a box and say all right you've been giving me flack for is going to late night shows i'm not going to do it. i want seems a little bit passive-aggressive. >> you and that fine stain made he's not paying attention. if anyone has traveled on air force one, i have, dana has, you do carry your white house with you. so the idea that somehow he's not involved in these crises is ridiculous. beyond that let's be honest about the politics. this is prime fundraising time right now. what he's facing is the loss of the united states senate which means he would have both chambers in the hand of republicans which would make his last two years nearly

impossible. if you take advantage of raising money now is the time to do it, raise money because it's an investment in the future. >> i agree. i was thinking about that earlier today, in their opinion one of the things that's hard for the president a lot of people running for office, democrats are saying could you stay out of my district and send me a check. the president is obliging. people won't remember whether he went on jimmy kimmel or not but they will remember in the long term how badly he loses in this mid-term election which six years of a presidency you usually do lose seats. the democrats are not going to be able to blame him for not raising enough money. >> the country needs a national hypnotist. they send him to the white house and hypnotize obama into thinking putin is a tea partier to provoke some kind of range. not the domestic adversaries of

the republican party. >> i get that. having worked on campaigns as a former political strategist i was the one saying to the candidate now is the time to raise the money, trying to figure out how it's will affect my candidate, my boss who is at the top of the ticket. what i don't understand why there isn't some behavior, some effort, eric, by the white house to say, okay, we get the political strategy, we got to raise money, this is about our legacy and recapturing the senate. however there's crisis happening. isis is becoming more embolden. al qaeda is on the march. a plane went down. we have to look like we care like we're doing something because people are really in dire straits in so many ways. >> couple of things, number one, bob, if that's the case he's campaigning raising money so the 2014 mid-terms are better for means it stops november 5th of 2014. it won't stop. he'll continue. start looking at 2016, look for

people to help in 2016. >> did we report he had two conversations with putin yesterday. >> i don't know. >> that's the one -- strongly-worded conversation. >> strongly-worded conversation. >> action. >> can i finish my thought here. so what? so what he wants to fundraise. democrats want him to work on these problems. >> i think he's working on these problems. you're assuming he's not working on the problem. >> how long do they take? >> diane feinstein doesn't want to see the senate go from the majority to the minority and yes she is in a very safe seat in a very blue state in california but her point is can you at least focus on them or maybe just look like you're focusing on them and then if he does it makes it easier for democrats to thus get re-elected and for him

to hold on to the senate. >> that's the difference. looking like he's dealing with them and he is dealing with them is my view. >> senator diane feinstein is a very serious person. she chairs intel committee. she's been in congress for a long time. she, i think, is expressing publicly frustration because a lot of democrats have been trying to back channel to the white house just messaging, send some help. last week it was the congressman in texas saying please come down here. it will matter. members of the united states senate could be on president obama's side for any sort of action he wants to take. he has to work harder. i think that's the message diane feinstein was trying to send. >> the thing is, though, president obama doesn't like advice from anybody outside the circle of one which might be valerie jarrett. when feinstein is coming to him and say, you know, you should take more of an active interest

in the world that's like giving advice to bill clinton how to pick up chicks. that's an insult to him. he doesn't listen. when somebody gives him advice he can use i think he gets childish about it. he gets defensive. >> can i mention one other thing because i think the white house press office is missing some of the base hits they need in order to keep the white house press corps feeling like they have some access to the president. there's some easy things. the other day president met with the surviving astronauts of apollo 11 from the 1969 mission, the 45 anniversary. the press office didn't allow cameras in to get some pictures. this is a historic moment. easy thing to do. cohn karl from abc asked and he said it's a scheduling thing. josh earnest doesn't have a better answer. but there's some things they can do. >> they can list all the

conversations he's had and all the things he's done around these crises that have not made public, to list them that would make a big difference. >> these pictures are coming from the white house when he's shiming across the bar at a burger joint. for some reason they have time to get the white house photographer to all those other things but not the important ones. >> an easy thing to do. >> we talked about who he you puts in power. like the man at the state department. these are decisions the white house flubbed. you want pros in these positions not political people. that tells you all you need to know to be his mouthpieces. ahead on the five islamic terrorists trying to wipe out christianity from iraq. will the world take a stand? that's up next.

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♪ islamist terrorists have declared a caliphate in iraq. now they are trying to purge all christians from the country. christians have been fleeing kabul after they were give end an ultimatum. convert toys lam, pay a tax or face death. they burnt down a church on saturday and plan on continuing

their offense. christianity is deep rooted in iraq predating islam. now it is at risk of extinction. bob, let me ask you, do you think that america and europe, the west, has abdicated its responsibility to christians around the world especially those in iraq. >> absolutely. i think the catholic church has. the pope has. the christian leaders have. the idea you would force people who have been there 2,000 years, well before islam before the muslims moved in there is outrageous. to do it at the point of a gun, say convert, some will continue university. other people will flee. what they really want to do is cleanse the iraq of any christians. now, i find it amazing that the government that we supported, that we went through with all these democratic elections not one of them said anything about what's going on in their country. i find that amazing. >> i just wondered about that andrea earlier today.

what bob pointed out and the fact that it's happening there's no more christians in mosul. are terrorists winning? >> i hate to admit it. but they are. they are getting their way. this has between goal for hundreds of years. convert them or kill them. this has been the fight for as long as anyone can remember. it's not a new thing. they also get the impression that the united states is in retreat. so islam is emboldened they are on the march because who is going to come in and level them and deal with them if we're not going to. >> the iraqi government and iraqi army should. >> you're absolutely right. we agree on this bob. however, it's a very, very different fight and now they are gaining world strength and power. before they knew they couldn't get away with these things. the united states drew lines and enforced them. >> i wonder too about europe.

because we used to be able to build coalition to fight this kind of thing. do you think we're being conditioned to accept barbarism as something that will happen and accept it? >> the world is supposed to be a more tranquil place. we're told that. there's less atrocity now. the bad guys used to look over their shoulder and assumed somebody there was. it's an empty play ground, no teachers, no parents, you can do whatever you want. the crazy thing about europe and america is we go out of our way to champion tolerance of the intolerant. if you besmirched islam in any way, shape or form you apologize. meanwhile radical islam will behead you if you do not convert, this will kill you and hang you. if you say anything that might be critical, you are guilty of islam phobia and you are the intolerant one. they have radical islam has been able to use our own cowardice,

our fear of being intolerant. political correctness has cost people lives. >> do you think there might be a push because of something like this for aggressive air strikes against isis to weaken their capabilities or do you think that the christians have left mosul, their property has been destroyed, their crew ucifxes h been stolen and they are not come back. >> i'm a christian. old story. however, i agree with bob. this is for the iraqi government who should put an end to isis, they should clamp down. if they can't then we failed. we waste ad lot of time, money and bodies in iraq and we may have. look, there were 1.5 million christians in iraq, now 300,000 christians in iraq. >> none left moynihan result. >> none left moynihan result.

president obama. don't forget this, i'm quoting him. islam is not part of the problem in combatting violent extremism. it's an important part of promoting peace. he said the religion was being distorted bay few extremists. i don't know how a few extremists drive out 1.2 christians in iraq. it goes on and on. extremism is a lot bigger within islam than they are telling us. there are 1.6 billion muslims in the world. only 1% of extremists. there's 16 million extremists. >> let me turn this to the middle east. the faa ordered all fights to israel ground for 24 after a rocket fell outside of tel aviv. >> at a certain point you say what choice have you got. what would you do? what would you do if american

cities, what would you do if your city is absorbing hundreds of rockets. you know what you would say? you would say to your leader a man has to do what a man has to do and a country has to do what a country has to do. >> prime minister of israel has been spending a significant amount of time trying to be on television to explain to people what is going on. very different tactic what he's trying to do than other leaders are doing in addressing public opinion. >> he backs up his words, those with actions. but i also think to netanyahu's credit he's also not been so concerned with the pr fight as much as the palestinians have. the palestinians are experts at the pr fight. they specifically put little kids in front of weapons so when israel strikes back they can put those images on the cover of a newspaper and say look how bad israel is. it has been primarily a pr war. netanyahu says i'll fight back. i'll use actions and words to

expose how what we were just talking about. this is what bothers me when leaders conflate christianity with islam. one is willing to die and kill children to advance a goal. christianity is peaceful, following the life of jesus which is not if your enemy provoex you to strike back, to take a peaceful attack. that's what bothers me when world leaders and our president decide to compliment them as if they are not going to -- as if they are going to change by nice words. something they have been doing for hundreds of years. it's incredibly naive. >> the other thing to keep in mind a lot of these weapons coming out of gaza were taken by the iranians when they went into iraq. a lot of these weapons are weapons and have been turned against israel. >> a lot of weapons are coming from iran that funded hamas. the rockets going into israel are offensive weapons almost absolutely not american. >> weapons put in storage in

iraq to help the iraqi military. >> the big weapon hamas has is a large segment of the media which is very sympathetic to them. as long as hamas has the sympathy they will continue to use them. the media goes that's horrible without seeing the context. every night netanyahu has a benghazi on his hands. he doesn't have the luxury to fundraise or golf. >> have you noticed that also this media never mentioned the christian situation. >> if it does it's almost all about the antiquities and the actual, physical objects or the buildings being destroyed not the lives that are being destroyed. >> can i weigh in? very quickly i love israel's resolve, netanyahu. he warned them, he warned them twice, he warned three times, he

warned america he was going to do it. he finally indict and won't back down until there's a hamas withdrawal, and hamas screwed themselves. they backed off on the original idea. others in the arab world called for a cease-fire they said no. what you need to understand hamas has a majority say on the palestinian authority government. a terrorist organization has a majority say on what is trying to be a state government. you got to be out of your mind to think that these people are anything but terrorists. coming up a single mom could go to prison for three years for a crime carrying illegally purchased guns to protect her kids after being robbed twice. greg will tell you about that next. life reimagined gives you tools and support to get the career you'll love. find more real possibilities at aarp.org/possibilities

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hooray. new jersey just nabbed a loathe some criminal. a single mom of two with no criminal history was picked up on a traffic stop for packing a piece. allen who lives in philly, poor thing being bought the gun after being robbed twice. she had a carry permit but didn't know it wasn't transferrable. now she faces three years in jail, no parole. she told the cop about the weapon but in this age where every gun is evil even victims must pay. so she's charged with one lawful

spoegs. this during a gun buy back program in jersey where tons of hand guns were turned in for cash, maybe she should have tried to sell the gun to the officer. look, data shows the big rise in carry permits coincides with drop of crime. murder and violent crimes have dropped by 22%. now you could say more guns means safer streets but that's called a hate fact. a fact the media hates because it shouldn't be true. but it's a fact born from research. thugs are less likely to target a victim they believe that's armed. it's rather why you should hug a cat instead of a skunk. if you're a pop star or famous mayor ask your personal or corporate security what they think they carry so you don't have to. so shouldn't have been carrying

a gun or didn't know but this is somebody who is trying to protect herself. shouldn't the police cut her a break. >> she had a permit in pennsylvania. didn't know it wasn't transferrable to new jersey opinion she's a single mom of two. she had been robbed twice before which is the reason why she got the gun. what's the saying. it's better to have it not need it than need it not have it. she needed it and didn't have it. they looked back into her history. she didn't have criminal past. these laws are so draconian. this is where progressives need to be challenged. the innocent are punished and the ones who commit the crimes are rewarded. progressives aren't freaking out about these young kids getting murdered in chicago but go after republicans for -- they want torch have a gun, they want everyone to be violent. two incidents where progressives do this. in new york city you have to report prescription drugs. and on the border. people who come here do the right thing have to wait in line and people who break through are

treated with kid gloves. >> bob, a woman with a gun is safer than a woman without. why don't the left want women to be safe? >> well, first of all, i join in the argument here. 50 states now, illinois being the last one to allow concealed weapons. it's not surprising to me she would not know that they don't allow concealed weapons -- they do allow concealed weapons in new jersey. it's ridiculous. they taught give her a pass. christie ought to pardon her. on your issue about carrying guns, this very famous study done, let's keep in mind violent crime rate in this country began to fall in 1992 because of very good police action. a number of things factored into it and concealed weapons. 3% of people in this country carry concealed weapons and a lot of your studies was in counties where there was no violent crime and people carrying concealed weapons.

others have said the formula is wrong. >> you just agreed with them. you stated his numbers and they were, in fact, you agreed with them. >> i said 3 puerto rico of the people have concealed weapons permits. >> as concealed weapons permit proliferated -- >> might be a small factor in certain reasons. having sthaem much more dangerous position. >> there has to be a national carry permit not state to state. if you have your gun and have it concealed. i would love to see a national open carry law. >> what do you think? where you're from in colorado they have a restaurant called shooters grill where all waitresses, they pack handgun. wouldn't you agree that's the safest place in the world to eat? i meant you're a terrible tipper. >> why aren't feminists trying

to reconnect this woman with her children. she doesn't have a criminal past. if she goes to prison what do you think will happen? recidivism rate for women is ridiculous. i would rather let her go. let her off with a warning. >> do you think it's safe to carry guns in places where they serve alcohol. >> yeah. all right. ahead the wwe malaysian airline skit. an nfl draft drama. and does bill clinton have a new girlfriend. i'm sure they are just squash partners. next on "the five."

♪ welcome back. i think i died and went to heaven. three enticing stories. seven energized minutes. first up too soon. you expect the stupid tweet from jason who tweet this joke tweet hours after mh-17 was shot out of the sky. it said anybody want to buy my malaysian airlines frequent flyer miles. the wwe surprised me. i get it they are entertainment not actual wrestling. did you have to go there? >> you blame it on the recent current events when in fact you americans should be scolded for

your war mongering in afghanistan and iraq. you americans should be insulted and afraid. >> your thoughts on this one, greg? >> now, problem with this -- twitter, this is what people do. his humor relies on shock value and shock value lucky for him requires into a lent. so that's why he's good at it. as for the wwe they should have wait ad month before turning mass murder into script fodder. >> at that little too soon -- definitely couple of hours after the plane is down he's tweeting about frequent flyer miles >> he has a history of saying offensive things on twitter. this is what you expect from him. his most notable moment is when he stuck his weiner in a pie. the wwe, it is also notorious

for saying really ridiculous, politically incorrect things. remember these wrestlers, the mexicools who don't drive a john deere but a juan deere as well as the iron shiek, mustafa. so i just think the wwe is not somewhere you go for tateful politically correct dialogue. >> a couple of things. stay off twitter when there's a tragedy or retweet something like the dutch father who wrote a letter to putin. retweet something like that if you feel you must be on social media. wwe much more powerful for them, that was more harmful than big because it's conditioning people to dislike america and they could have done a skit mocking president putin. that would have been powerful. might have been funny.

>> setting up another cold war? >> the broad that did that ought to be sent to an s and m site. >> an nfl coach turned nbc commentator is taking heat for saying this about michael sam first openly gay nfl football player. he said i wouldn't have taken him not because i don't believe michael sam should have a chance to play but i wouldn't want to deal with all it. it's not going be totally smooth. things will happen. tony dungy a wonderful person, a wonderful football coach. he expressed his opinion, do you have a problem with what he said? >> i think he's right. there are going to be some problems. but whenever you do something that's first, whenever you break a barrier there's going some problems. dungy would not want to put up with it. other coaches are willing to do it. they will find a lot of people

who are gay and are in the nfl. this kid will go through the season and be just fine. >> thoughts on the comment? >> i take tony dungy at his word. it is a media side show, it can be turned into these type of things. anything but football. that's dungy's point. we've gotten so far off the game. what kind of pain kill terrifies players are using. injuries. sexuality. people believe it's up with of the reasons too that tim tebow isn't playing night because a lot of people made his personal life a side show and it should be about the game. >> he was referring to two things. twin locker room which is the most least pc place you'll ever be in. i know from experience being a towel boy. to your point the dungy story is not about him or michael sam it's about a media obsession. the media cannot get enough of any story that might have -- might be perceived with a story

that has something to do with gays. if you deviate you'll be forced to justify or apologize your comment immediately. >> he is in a possible sifgs leadership and been on television for quite a while. he should have an ability to navigate a question like that in a better way. i think they could have turned it back on him. the gay rights issue is a civil rights issue for many. >> tires african-american head coach of nfl super bowl. >> indiana had to deal with that. >> this one. monica, jennifer and paula move over. the energizer is in town. according to kessler president clinton has a new mistress, a buxom blonde who as a nickname. the energizer shows up minutes after hillary hits the road. tanna? >> look, in france this would

increase your popularity. okay. in america it probably wouldn't be surprising to people if this turns out to be true. i hope the sourcing is very good on this. >> source. >> three things. one, who uses the word buxom any more. it's like out of an article of 1970s issue of "esquire." she was buxom. this is why hillary has to win. she will go after the electoral college, he'll be going after the community college. >> will this affect hillary -- >> nobody will fall off the earth that bill has another woman. the energizer thing has to make sense. >> quickly? >> i don't think the question is whether or not this is true or not the question is whether or not people are going care.

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♪ some think welfare is one of the great services our government provides. this next story upsets. an ebt card users in colorado with drew more than $23,000 from atms at weed shops. it's a tool that the government uses to fight poverty. and these folks give it a bad name. the total amount of money colorado receives is $124 million. less than 1% receive it. but people like eric bolling will take and one it and make it out that a majority of the people are a crooks.

>> i mentioned this would be a problem a couple of months ago as soon as they legalize weed. their atms inside the weed disspendaries, not using earn bt, using temporary family assistance card. but the program allows to you take cash out and use whatever you want. held jobs they are in the pot store. where do you think they are going to use it for. it's supposed to help the kids. how about this? you give me 1% of your paycheck and you won't be upset. >> that's fine. i want to find out what 10% of the people in your country cheat on their taxes. >> colorado doesn't care. state government doesn't care. they got tens of millions of dollars in the first two months of it being legalized. so they are going to turn a blind to $23,000. it doesn't matter to them. appearances matter. it's not intolerant to suggest

that at least they should take these types of machines that would allow you to withdraw that money out of these stores. >> i agree. >> and liquor stores and strip clubs. >> greg? >> what's the point of welfare? those are the three things i would spend it on if i was on welfare. life sucks. if it's my money i want it to go to fun stuff. >> it's not your money. >> bottom line is you should pay for your pleasure. you know what they are going to do. they are going say it's a medicinal expenditure. that's what they are going say in the future so you can buy your pot. >> do you think it will give right-wingers to beat up on people who receive welfare? >> right-wingers don't beat up on people that receive welfare. it was designed as a temporary safety net to help the most vulnerable. we can stand together on this

issue and say the more you expand a government program the more abuse you have. it was never designed for the high dogs in colorado. it was designed for the poorest of the poor. but what did you expect was going to happen here? i think it just says something about our culture how people are getting their money and what they are spending it on. it's a huge, huge problem. >> i agree with dana. they should get these atm machines or whatever they are out of these pot stores. >> what about strip club. >> not out of the strip clubs. that's very important. people could have found work there. >> come on. >> but the idea that somehow a fraction of people who really need, the rest of them need it and the rest give it a bad name. >> it's bad argument. >> they are ruining it for everybody. they are the bad actors. people who are complaining about it are not the bad guys in this. >> i agree. all right. one more thing is up next.

it's time now for one more thing. i'll kick it off. the biggest story today here at home is a federal court has struck down a portion of the obamacare law. it's a huge deal. little complicated to explain. but google it, read about it online. this could unravel the entire thing when they rushed congress to put together this law they forgot to put in a specific

provision that gives people in state subsidies to gate subsidy. now if you're in a state and your governor has chosen not set up the exchange you can't get the subsidy. so what happens? these sick people will flood the system. it's chaos for the insurers and could be the death spiral. it's going the supreme court. that's my prediction. big news today. all right. roberto. >> i'm not going to even comment on that. you just commented on my political things. i'll let that go. right to washington senators. my favorite team. washington nationals. excuse me. >> the senators, that's old school. >> what die say, senators >> old school. >> old school. so am i. washington nationals have a fan that if you take a look at this picture. this guy. washington nationals logo. look at his beard. that's what you got to call a

fan. >> that's disgusting. that not a fan that's a demented human being. >> he should enter one of those contests. >> a contest that has him on a deserted island forever. >> greg you're up next. >> banned phrase. put a bug in his ear. if you put a bug in somebody'ser chances are it will give birth to larvae. his head will explode and die. just say i made a suggestion. don't say put a bug in his ear because it's disgusting. >> what's the origins of that thing. >> i don't know. >> how about planting a seed. are your anti-planteding a seed. >> that's all right. friday i told you about jesse venture gentleman suing the s.e.a.l. sniper widow.

i couldn't figure out what he was suing her for. jesse made closing arguments today. he's looking for $15 million from kris kyle's widow. it's ridiculous. we may get a verdict in the next day or two. >> bob's phone almost didn't go off. >> my turn. remember the irs' improper targeting of conservatives and didn't target liberals. media may have forgotten the story we have not. who is zooming who. the irs now has a technical adviser who says they may not have lost lois lerner's emails but may have lost other people's emails. three i.t. managers were fired and not sure why. the investigation continues on the hill. stay with fox because we'll continue to cover it when no one else does. >> bob who texted you? >> never mind.

>> never mind. we're out of time. don't forget to set your dvr so you never miss an episode of "the five." "special report" is up next. we'll see you tomorrow. two federal courts offer opposing rulings about a key aspect of obamacare. now what? this is "special report." good evening i'm bret baier. two federal courts took on the irs rule extending federal subsidies to states that didn't set up exchanges for obamacare. the decisions went in opposite directions. one tossed out the rule and the other said it was okay. the white house meanwhile is promising business as usual. to sort this all out we have fox team coverage. ji