irving. house sergeant-at-arms. don't say we never did anything for you, lois. in the meantime, people don't believe nancy pelosi misspoke.t. i'm megyn kelly. this is "the kelly file." ♪ welcome to "hannity tonight." part two, chaos on the southern bofrder. still in mcallen, texas. in a moment governor rick perry will join us. there's been dozens of new developments regarding the immigration crisis and here's a quick recap of all that went down. >> all: usa, usa. >> they're illegal. >> the invasion of illegal immigrants and in particular uncompanied children is spiraling out of control. >> they're treating people like

cattle. >> if we don't fix the problem in washington, d.c., this will just continue to happen over and over again. >> this is president obama's katrina. it's not a good image. >> it doesn't make sense to compare this to a natural disast disaster. this is a humanitarian situation. >> the president assured the american people that the border was secure but clearly it is not. >> the president is well aware of exactly what's happening on the border. >> we are looking at ways to create additional options for dealing with the children in particular consistent with our laws and values. >> they totally deny this allegation coming from some of us in the media that they don't look like they're on top of the situation. >> the steps the government announced not just today but over the last week or so are indicative of our proactive approach to dealing with this situation. >> there's a lack of leadership on the part of the president in getting ahead of this issue. >> a leader will be defined by how he handles a challenge and i think one of the things he needs to do is roll up his sleeves, go

down to the border. >> i didn't want to show up on the ramp in austin, texas, and shake his hand and say welcome to texas. >> i'm not interested in photo-ops. i'm interested in solving a problem. >> i don't know whether he's inept or there's something else going on but the fact is the border is not secure. >> and back with us is texas governor rick perry is with us. it's been a pretty interesting week, governor. i want to go back to the beginning. the president wanted a photo-op. he said come meet me on the tarmac. >> no, actually, the request was he was coming in to austin for a fund-raiser, and i don't know exactly the line. the request come through, come to the airport. shake hands and which is fine. i've done that before. and it was an appropriate thing for me to do, but we've got some serious issues we need to talk about and i've tried to reach

out to him and written him letters and haven't gotten an appropriate response. i said i really don't with all due respect i don't want to come to the airport, be used for a photo-op and shake hands and leave. i chicago and supposed to be in ohio over the course of the last two days. if we can have substantive conversation about how to secure the border and he agreed to do that which i appreciated. >> you know, one of the things i've been critical of republicans in washington. i think sometimes they've been timid. they've been unwilling to use some of the constitutional authority, the power of the purse. the governor seems to be able to get things done. i think the president should be able to. one example, on the v.a. i would have set up a 1-800 number as soon as i found out there was institutionalized fraud and they weren't getting the care we promised them. months passed. nothing is happening. you meet with the president. you told him how bad the problem s. the next question, when do you expect a response?

don't we need a sense of urgency? >> i think there is. i think americans understand now. as a matter of fact, with some of the information that you're going to be sharing with the american public about the number of criminal events that have occurred over the course of the last six years and that this issue with these uncompanied alien children can be very qu k quickly addressed from the standpoint of staunching the flow by putting those troops on the border along with the border patrol and the other law enforcement individuals, that type of action by the president, number one, will help him out substantially from the standpoint of objects and reality of what's going on and i think the president is a smart man. but he needs to act. leadership is not about giving a good speech. leadership is not about playing politics with the other side and one-upping them. leadership is about making a difference and this president can make a difference by putting

those national guard troops on the border, by pushing the border patrol forward and sending that message to central america that you cannot send your children up there. >> the president said that the conversation was constructive. that you made sense. said he had an open mind about the national guard. was there any timetable that was put up where maybe he is saying we'll get this done, i'll get back to you? how did it end. >> i didn't hear that but i'm an eternal optimist so we're going to keep -- we're going to keep pushing this both with the president. we're going to keep pushing this with congress and keep talking about it and the general public is who is going to really drive the, i think the agenda. >> i want to go back to the briefing we had yesterday and more specifically i want to know we're going to put this presentation on tv to the extent we're able to and with people coming from yemen and syria, that's number one, that's a problem and pakistan and people didn't know and, number two, the number of crimes committed

against texans, that's another problem. it can't be done without manpower so i think this is now hit the point of urgency. certainly you're hitting the urgent button in texas. i don't see a federal government that has that sense. >> well, but the president can deal with this. i keep going back to that and i'm sorry if i sound like a broken record but the fact is, the president of the united states can pick up the phone to the d.o.d. and direct them to send those 1,000 national guard troops because that will send the quickest message that this border is secure and if we start securing the border, all of these issues that are facing us begin to dwindle. they begin to diminish. >> here's the president talked a lot about politics in all this and kept asking over and over, the supplemental bill. is there one thing if he's looking for compromise is there one area and that is to secure the border? i interviewed a lot of republicans and they secure the border first. i know the president wants this bill which is a comprehensive bill that includes amnesty,

should he just go along with the security, a boat taking on water, plug up the hole and deal with the aftermath later. >> i have heard for too many years the american people do not trust th administration nor do they trust congress. to deal with this issue until the border is secure. so if he's serious about having a gentlemen's conversation about border or, excuse me, about immigration reform, the best way to have that move forward is to secure that border. then we can have that conversation. >> how come every time we come here -- >> we love rain in texas. >> every time we come here, it starts pouring. if this is one thing, what is -- you told me privately you didn't say on camera yet was about maybe getting congressional leaders down here, republicans and democrats, congressman cuellar, been outspoken said this could be obama's katrina. do you think he can men and

women and senators down here -- >> i don't know how many we can get down here but it's one of our conversations that we're having with some of the leadership to bring the congressional delegation, michael mccaul, the chairman of homeland security was here. michael had testimony, incredibly bright, capable man who understands this issue very well. he's been here. he had part of his committee and some of the other texas delegation, sheila jackson-lee on the other side of the aisle, but, you know, i appreciate her being here. but the point is, these members of congress need to see what's going on too. this is a major national security issue. i invite them to come. hopefully we can do it and do it soon and find a resolution to this because americans deserve it and americans expect it. >> things are different. i was at an aei study that came out that showed texas since 2007, over a million jobs have

been created in this state, simultaneously at the same time, in california less than 25,000. >> well, one of the other comparables that came out during that study during that six-plus-year period of time, right at six-year period of time, i think it was from '07 through '13 and the country was a plus 113,000 new jobs created. that's all in that six-year period. we lost all of those jobs during the recession and the country's only back 113,000. during that same time, texas created seven or excuse me, 1 million jobs. >> over a million. >> since '07. >> and california less than 25,000. is the country in that sense even on the issue of immigration and everything in between economically there's no income state in your tax. in california the state income tax is 13.5%. >> there are two states that lost more wealth per capita than

any other state. >> let guess, california and new york. >> i'm leaving. >> and these policies really matter but states compete against each other and at some point in time new york and california, their people will require them to make the changes and deal with this and they will get back to reality on taxes and on regulation, on the legal system but that's -- that ebb and flow is how it works. remember when california was the golan bear and had a regulatory policy that was fair. people all moved there and the place exploded. it can happen again. >> when you look at -- you go and spend a lot of time in states like california, new york. you've been to new york and you're there, you're lobbying for people to move to texas and you've been pretty successful. these companies, you sit with them and tell them the advantages to move to a low tax state, tort reform that played a big part in the medical field. >> over the last decade over a thousand people a day have moved

to the state of texas. i let that speak for itself. >> governor, you've been very generous with your time. i really enjoyed the time. coming up next tonight right here on "hannity" -- >> this isn't theater. this is a problem. i'm not interested in photo-ops. i'm interested in solving a problem. >> the president could not be more wrong. coming up next texas congressman louis gohmert is here to show why he is here to take care of the investigation. chaos on america's border. straight ahead. straight ahead. thlook what i got.p. oh my froot loops! [sniffs] let's do this? get up! get up! get up! get up! loop me! bring back the awesome... yeah! yeah! yeah! with the great taste of kellogg's froot loops. follow your nose! you fifteen percent or more on huh, fiftcar insurance.uld save

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welcome back to the hannity investigation, chaos on the southern border here in mcallen, texas, getting a firsthand look at how bad things have deteriorated. even though the president was here he did not take time out of his busy schedule to do the same. >> there's nothing that is taking place down there that i am not intimately aware of and briefed on. this isn't theater. this is a problem. i'm not interested in photo-ops. i'm interested in solving a problem. >> president obama should be here more than us but apparently our commander in chief is just too busy. instead of getting a border tour with governor perry like i did today he decided to go fund-raising to grandstand and had time to play pool. this is video proof that the president is truly out of touch with what's really going on. joining us from washington, d.c. to react to this is texas

congressman louis gohmert. wish you were down here with us. great to be in your home state. >> as soon as we finish here i'm headed right down there. i'll catch you but i'm headed right there as soon as we finish. thank you for being there and, you know, it's kind of like "the music man" said, he was playing pool that begins with "p" and that rhymes with "t" and that stands for trouble right here in river city and this president -- i don't know if it hit you, sean. but you remember the abuse president obama took when that picture came to light when he looked out the window after katrina. this president won't even look out the window but it sounds like he went back and got his spokes many people -- bush's spokespeople's explanation of why he wasn't down there and they're recycling the same explanations. who knows if it will work for

this president. >> one big difference. you're raising a valid point, congressman. this president, no trouble when hurricane sandy hit, going up to new jersey again and again and again and hugging governor christie and that was a natural disaster but i would argue this is a disaster made that obama made for himself, am i wrong there? >> well, actually this is a disaster that he made for himself and, sean, i didn't realize until today how much he has made it this bad himself. now, we know from january they were already asking for transportation for the tens of thousands of children that they said would be coming in the coming months. they knew and when the president created his own law out of whole cloth and pronounced i don't like the prior law put into place so i'm pronouncing a new law, here it is and this is what allows you to stay, that was the beginning of this lawlessness on our border and people hearing

you can come and stay and what i found out today, i was trying to put together a bill and because speaker let me get somebody else's lead on the bill. that's how i get my bills passed, we were wanting to fix this problem where they just hand these people a notice and say, this is when you come back to court, well, sean, it turns out even when you're from n noncontiguous countries like el salvador, honduras, guatemala, even under the will beforce bill, if you are an adult or if you are a child with an adult, you're not entitled to see a judge. you're not entitled to a hearing, you're supposed to be turned right around and sent back over the border. >> they're holding them and providing them lawyers. all this stuff. it's not necessary under the constitution or law. >> congressman, there are two specific things i want to ask you about as it relates to the

law. number one, the president like any other law i've seen makes changes on his own laterally. number two, he made a conscious decision thought to enforce the immigration laws, the act of 2008 where there is a separate and distinct classification for people from central america versus, for example, mexico. now, the president was lobbied by the aclu and others in june not to have the same standard where they could send these kids back. can you change that, the president talks about building consensus. would he do that? >> absolutely. i've been talking to members of the house. we're ready to fix that because, sean, it is so grossly unfair to mexico and to canada to treat their people, their children differently than we treat others just because they're on the other side. that's not right. we need to treat all people equally but the thing is, sean, we've been told that, gee, this applies to everybody from n

noncontiguous countries and actually it only applies to the children that they're supposed to get their chance with a judge. all the others are supposed to be turned around, even children that are with adults and this president has chosen to violate that law but we -- i think in the house we'll get that fixed. >> congressman, there's two issues the president -- he kept saying the supplemental. $3.7 billion, now, and then he said, well, he is lashing out against republicans. my question is, do you really need 3.7 billion, number one and, number two, if everybody agrees that we should secure the border and secure it first which i think you would agree with, why don't we just do that one thing now? >> and that's what we can do and what we should do and keep in mind, it was the obama administration under janet napolitano that said, look, i know that congress has already provided us with $4 billion to fix a big hunk of the border so

that we're protected but she announced we're not going to do that border plan. we're not going to have a virtual wall. we're doing away with all that stuff and she helped create the situation we're in now. but, yes, we can do that with the bill, we can stop it right now. what we need to do is get national guard down on the border like one of our least favorite presidents woodrow wilson did after pancho's gangs came in and killed some family, he put this new thing called national guard and the constitution referred to as militia and secured the country, of course, he sent general percy into mexico after pancho via. we don't need to do that but turn people around and not let them get on our soil unless they come through the right way. >> last question, congressman, is there any chance that republicans that control the house are going to give this president $3.7 billion?

is there any chance that's going to happen especially if he doesn't secure the border. >> i cannot imagine that happening and if it did i would be in the wrong party. we just cannot do that and i think there's enough of us that will raise cain about doing that. sean, with 57,000 children that have come in, he needs $67,000 per child. are you kidding me? that's ridiculous. i know a lot of people that will take them back personally to that homes for a whole lot -- only a fraction of that $67,000. >> yeah. and by the way, they also belong back with their parents where they should be >> that's right and that's what we need to do. sean, we have to reunite the children with their parents and send them all back to their homes. that's what we need to do. reunification of families and send them back home. >> congressman, thank you. appreciate it. humane fashion, humanitarian way, simple. you can do it for 99.5% less as one congressman said.

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welcome back to "hannity" broadcasting from the southern border in mcallen, texas, where illegal immigrants continue to pour in. questions are being raised about president obama's fail our to fix the situation. look at what former alaska governor sarah palin had to say on this show earlier this week. >> impeachment is a message that has to our president that we're not going to put up with this lawlessness. the one tool they have are articles of impeachment. let's get going on that and it's not necessarily, sean, a lawsuit being filed by congress because you don't bring up -- a lawsuit to a gun fight and there's no place for lawyers on the front line. where are the front lines in america? they are our borders. >> and debated from brett bar. brandon darby and francisco hernandez is with us. >> how are you doing? >> we're now getting along more

than we ever have. you agree with me. secure the border. secure the border first. >> i agree with you, absolutely. i think we can do both things together. come up with a comprehensive immigration reform and secure the borders. >> listen, the republicans aren't going to agree on that. would you agree with me that if the one area of consensus is controlling the border which is not controlled, do that first. >> sure. at the source, as well. >> at the source. >> meaning how do we -- we can't control what they're doing in el salvador and nicaragua and yemen -- >> we sure can. by the time they come up with that document they're not going to change their mind and say i'm going to go back. they'll risk their lives. people are dying to come to america, mr. hannity. but, listen, there's a train that brings them every day. there was one bringing 1500 -- >> you want us to fell them to stop the trains. we have the authority to go into other countries and stop the trains. >> we did when our dea agent was killed in the '80s when kiki was

killed we put 100% inspection on every truck coming from mexico and all of a sudden -- >> he's saying something different. coming into the united states. yeah, we have -- >> ef woo a train coming from central america. every single train from central traffic control in the railroad industry, every train in the americas is monitored. we know where it is. they have to get access. there is a rumor with a drug cartel bought a train. you don't put a train with 1500 people in it. >> if it is not in the united states we don't have any authority. they're sovereign countries. >> but we track -- talk regulated among the americas. we know where every train is. >> we can apply political pressure. >> there are at least three or four governments complicit in these trains bringing in 1500 people a day -- >> hang o.j. if we secure our border it doesn't matter who is on that train -- >> all we're doing is defense. we have to go and stop it from coming. >> i want defense. here's the deal. we're in the rio grande sector right now. right now you see a lot of --

you see these boats behind you. i was here, these boats weren't here. they just started to show up. >> the texas cameras are here too. >> they're doing their job. >> 350 miles -- it's not their fault by any means. the men and women -- >> bo 30 minutes ago they caught a family of about a quarter of a mile they got a family from el salvador, seven people. >> when you go 300 miles this way and through -- go through the laredo and del rio sector, it is a gaping hole in enforcement. the laredo sector union guy, hector, wonderful man, said there is 70% of the border patrol agents are not assigned on the border. taking care of the uncompanied children sflur's saying the borders are more porous because of what's going on. >> because of this crisis. >> it is indeed the children -- >> let me ask you this. governor palin, i would argue if the republicans that have constituti constitutionally the power of the purse and wouldn't defund obama care the idea there would

be any movement on the president on this or the lawlessness or the fact he rewrites laws doesn't enforce laws changes laws, unilaterally -- >> i'm agreeing with you. >> it's a nonstarter. >> i think she's write on principle and right on the law. right on constitutional issues about executive power versus -- >> well, but, mr. hannity, the president can defend himself but nobody -- we can't blame all these folks are dying to come to america. but -- >> well, stop. that's not the point. the reason you see this exponential rise in people coming here is because words have gotten out the president has given amnesty -- excuse me -- the 2008 law he changed and, number three, the fact he's not been enforcing immigration law. >> congress had to pass including the traffic -- >> that was his democratic party -- >> no, no -- >> some republicans -- there's some republicans involved but

i'll tell you something. those are the republicans who were playing ball with the democratic party. this wasn't the republicans and the conservative side doing this. so what we have here and we released a document from the dhs, released internal memo. >> i saw it. >> it said that, yes, there are factors in those countries that make people want to leave there, of course, there are but it also said that the fact that 98% and now this year actually 99.9% effectively illegal migrate into the united states is a big factor in why they are coming. we can't isolate from that. >> i think we ought to agree there ought to be a system where the people for jobs available in the proper way ought to exist but it doesn't exist. >> there are 50 million americans in poverty, 50 million americans on food stamps and now people coming in. they all need jobs. that's taking jobs away from americans out of work. >> except we're filling the void for the jobs that the united states citizens don't want to take. >> you're saying those 50

million americans on food stamps don't want to work. 50 million americans on food stamps don't want to work. >> yep. they don't want that job, absolutely. >> i would disagree. >> they're not going to get up on a roof in 105-degree -- >> when i did this, i did roofing jobs to be able to -- >> i did too. >> we all did roofs. i fell off three stories. >> i did ten feet up. >> i was -- >> here's the bottom line is this. there's so many costs, there's so many -- this has caused so many problems for us in texas, we have steps of thousands of uncompanied children who do not speak english and who knows what school district they're going to be in come august. we don't even know what school district they'll be in. the federal government says we have to teach everyone. >> we should teach them english first. >> the problems are beyond -- >> to a solution here. i think governor perry had a good idea. the president said he was open to it. send the national guard while they're training at least 3,000

new border agents that they'll need to secure the texas corridor. would you support that, national guard in the interim while we train new agents that need to be hired -- >> all we're doing -- look, we're putting a finger in the dike -- >> if you use the predator drones, surveillance technology that we can have -- we can have instant response teams -- >> we can try but the problem is these folks have made it here. they're not going to turn back. they're dying in the desert. >> you had thousands of -- >> 195,000 by the year end. >> but we've given them an incentive long before president obama came that if they got here by hook or crook they could stay. >> obama won't change it. >> obama can't change the law. congress -- >> he said he can change the law all the time. >> if congress can do it. let's have a proposal. >> that was his law. >> that was not his law. he didn't pass it. he signed it. >> it's happened in -- >> that can overturn it today. >> thank you, 2009.

thank you. all right. good to see you. >> i don't get to see you in person very often. >> i thought we were beginning to get along. >> we are. >> not finished. >> all right. appreciate it. >> thank you, man. coming up, we take the debate to the local level. what can state local and federal authorities to fix the crisis right now as we continue rio grande right behind us, "hannity investigation" continues. ♪ ain't that tough enough ♪ ain't that tough enough my name is jenny, and i quit smoking with chantix. before chantix, i tried to quit... probably about five times. it was different than the other times i tried to quit. along with support, chantix (varenicline) is proven to help people quit smoking. it's a non-nicotine pill. chantix reduced my urge to smoke. that helped me quit smoking. some people had changes in behavior, thinking or mood, hostility, agitation, depressed mood and suicidal thoughts or actions while taking or after stopping chantix. if you notice any of these, stop chantix

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texas, the executive director daniel garza and kurv news director, my local radio affiliate here sergio sanchez. thanks for having us. we appreciate it. he slants left, right? >> no, no. >> conservatiarian. >> no one wants to admit they're liberal. >> the libre initiative tries to instill and fortify liberty-based concepts. >> amnesty. >> in the hispanic community. >> he and i split on the road. the fork he goes to the left, i go way right. i'm not for, you know, comprehensive immigration -- >> i want market-based -- >> stop giving me spin. you sound like you're in washington.

we're in texas. >> you're talking about everything but deporation. >> do you want amnesty for people here who didn't respect our law. >> i want a system that integrates them into society. legalize the relationship with the employer and employee. >> i feel like i'm in new york and d.c. i expect straight talk in texas. >> by what you mean amnesty is visa reform, yes. >> i want to know if the people that didn't respect american law and american sovereignty and crossed the rio grande, that river behind me illegally should we send them back for not respecting our laws? >> i say that's not a -- >> yes or no. >> i'm going to say that's not viable. >> yes or no. >> i want market-based immigration reform. >> you see what it is. >> i told him he should run for office. he just goes around -- >> i want to say i did not have sexual -- >> oh, my god. i've been associated with bill clinton there. the worst. >> you're in the local community here and when you and i spoke earlier today, it really -- you

really impressed upon me the urgency, the impact that this is having in so many ways on this community. explain to people. >> at the moment, this present crisis we're dealing with and you and i are talking because of the flood of illegal alien children that have been crossing in from central america. they have word down there they can come to this country and throw their kids at us on their own and we have to absorb them somehow. we have to take them in and process them and give them a court date and that's never going to happen. they'll never show for that court date. we are seeing thousands and thousands of illegal immigrants, family units. moms with kids and kids coming on their own having to be baby-sat and processed by the border or given to hhs. >> and those jobs aren't doing their job. >> after taking care of kids and groups of people giving up you can imagine they're taking away from their duty and that's why governor perry tried to back them up and scared the drug runners back. >> let's define compassion. now, this is my position. and you may agree with this.

i think that especially these n unaccompanied minors, i think we have to feed them and check them out medically. make sure they're okay. some have tb and lice and scabies. i think we have to help them. i think that the right humanitarian passionate thing to do is get them reunited with their moms and dads and send them back to where they came. whoa, yes or no. is that the humanitarian thing to do? >> yes and no. yes, because, look -- >> bill clinton. >> you're right that we should -- >> yes or no. >> we should tie the children to the parents and sometimes the parents are here. >> if they didn't respect the laws and sovereignty. >> if some point the parents are deported the children should be deported with them. >> who would want to break up a family. >> the children -- >> is it the right thing to do, the unaccompanied minors -- >> those kids need to be back with their parents. >> absolutely. >> and need to be back with their families.

what we have at the moment are tens of thousands of children that have come into this country illegally and are having to stay because they have under our law 2008 law that allows them this type of pseudoamnesty to stay here this will they get a court date. they'll be here and be part of that 350,000 backlog that will never -- >> other than mexican, let's clarify. back in 2008 president bush signed a law that allows otms, children here to surrender to authorities and be processed in your court system because i'm part of human trafficking. >> a country other than mexico. >> other than mexico or a con continuous country they're allowed to stay. we already have 350,000 cases backlogged in the u.s. courts of people who need to be deported waiting to be processed. we have probably on top of that another 250,000 by the end of the year that will need to be heard in the immigratio courts. that's why the president is pushing for this funding to try to get lawyers and judges. >> we'll pay for health care.

we'll pay for food. housing. now we're going to get lawyers? >> seriously -- >> we're $17 trillion in debt and unfunded liabilities coming up. we're headed for bankruptcy. how will you pay for that. >> if it's a priority we should take it from -- >> how will you pay for that. >> take it from somewhere else? >> we'll steal it? we'll go into guatemala and steal the money. >> the spirit of the 2008 law -- >> what is it? how are we -- >> there are people being traded in the sex trade. they are. children who are suffering from gang violence in -- >> i living. how are we going to pay for it? >> we take a look at the budget and take it from somewhere else. i am not for adding to the debt. that's absolutely correct but if president obama is proposing 3.7 billion -- >> every day finish. >> i love him. he's a dear friend and i kind of married into his framily. happy anniversary, honey.

i love you. >> 21 -- 21 years -- i was going to say, the budget issue, take it from the president's travel budget. take it from international aid. >> it's going to nantucket for two more -- >> the president can solve this right now. >> i do want to underscore this is a real situation. that there are people -- >> i know. >> refugee status who are -- >> seen gang violence. >> and there are people here that are bringing crime with them. >> absolutely there are and that's why we need to identify who those folks are and deport them. the people who do not come with their parents, we should send them back. >> thank you. i love being on the station. thank you, sir. good to see you. coming up next, the immigration crisis is not just confined to texas. coming up next we head to marietta, california, where protesters have been voicing their concerns about illegals crossing into the u.s. that and much more straight ahead. ahead. ♪

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only place where chaos is unfolding. for example, in marietta, california, authorities are trying to dump illegal immigrants into their holding facilities but protesters on both sides are making things very difficult. take a look at that controversy. >> we're the ones that clean your homes. illegal. >> go back to washington, d.c. >> and joining me now is activist with us, she participated in the murietta protests. thanks for joining us. >> thank you for having me i appreciate it. >> i understand that you lost your son. tell us what happened. >> yes. i did.

july 12, 2012, saturday, two years ago my son was 30 years old in the middle of a promising life. he was a pilot, a 911 dispatcher for riverside county sheriff's department. he went to work, rode his motorcycle three miles from home. he was cutoff and died instantly. he was my only child he was everything i had here. and if that wasn't enough that i lost my family, and my future of being a grandmother or mother-in-law i had to find out the guy that killed my son was here illegally. now, to add to that is that he had been arrested for years, and real leased and had plea deals and felonies two duis. he was on probation for a dui and got probation again three weeks before he killed my only

son. >> you have someone here, an illegal immigrant. multiple arrests and felonies. set free. and then, kills your son. i mean i'd be very angry at a country that didn't remove that person from society and send them back from where they came at the least i bet you're pretty angry and feel the system failed you. it did fail you, and your son. >> it did. and once this shock wore off and i was very angry because you see, i came over here as a legal immigrant. i came from germany 25 years ago. i married a soldier. and i had to go through all of the channels i had to show that i wanted to be a citizen. i had to work for it, i had to obey the laws. and so i was extremely mad. and there were words i can't mention here. there are days i can't speak.

i can't explain what i feel. what happened because it wasn't an accident. it was a killing. and it's not just me. >> let me ask you this. >> now, go ahead. >> we have a delay. >> no. i wanted to say i'm not the only one. it's not just a case that is random. there are 5,000, and more, u.s. citizens that get killed per year by illegals. by accidents. by cars and robberies. >> what's happening in murietta, and quickly? >> people are upset and tired of being a dumping ground, not being informed about what is going on. we're getting tired of hearing about the little kids well, that may be 20% but rest are adults or juveniles. it's not the pleasant ones. there are good ones in that mix, but not most of them, i don't

think. i don't care what group you belong to, whether left or right, or whatever. if you come here, you've got to do it the right way. by law. no other way. >> i agree with you, sabine. thank you very much. i'm sorry about the loss of your son. thank you very much. >> thank you. so much. thank you. >> and coming up, we'll have more "hannity" right after the break as we continue from the rio

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