at your house. >> brian: with all the adults and animals we've had, they're probably the best behaved. >> gretchen: log on for the after the show show. see you tomorrow. bill: on a monday, good morning, everybody! it is the american dream that your children will have an even better life than you have and now a new poll showing that dream is very much in question. good morning, everybody, we really are the example of optimism here, aren't sphwhe i mean, normally? i'm bill hemmer, good to see you. martha: good morning, happy monday, so much for your kids being better off than you when! -- sthan you are! i'm martha maccallum. a survey shows 69 percent of people in this country believe that america is in decline. not in a slump, but in decline. 80 percent say that they worry about the future of this country. bill: also in that survey voters think the economy and politics in washington, surprise, are to blame. stuart varney, fox business network, stuart, good morning to gliew morning,

bill. bill: first tell us about the survey from the hill.com. >> well, it's a picture of a grim economy and it's the first time we've seen this kind of reaction to this grim economy in a generation. remember, bill, we are used to endless gains in profit, prosperity, and that's true all the way back to the 19 # \on/zeros. now, those gains in prosperity have stopped and the headlines on the economy are universally grim. for the last three years, we've had bad news on jobs, housing, debt, on the rate of growth, declining income. it's all been grim for three years. look at the situation now and in the future. no change. it still looks, i hate to use the word again, but grim. bill: on the future, only 19 percent believe in this survey that the united states will be the post powerful country, 20 years from now. >> yes. well, you look at the headlines that our americans are looking at. nobody is predicting strong economic growth in the future. the best we can hope for is maybe 2 percent. nobody is predicting an

unemployment rate much below eight, 8 1/2% for a couple of years to come. nobody is predicting a rebound in housing prices. and nobody is predicting a much lower decifit. we're going have a trillion dollars decifit, at least for the next year and maybe more to come and we're adding $4.2 billion to the national debt, every single day. people know this, and it's so different from the recent past. they project on to the future a grim outlook. that's what's happening. bill: so republicans and democrats see it differently. >> yes. bill: republicans believe in the survey that government spending is to blame. >> uh-huh. bill: democrats want the government to play an active role in boosting the economy. >> yes. bill: these are traditional political lines being drawn here. >> yes, but they're very sharply drawn now, aren't they? the two sides are really split, i want to say down the middle, but certainly split, and that split, bill, may lead to even more bad news. we've got a merrill lynch

analyst out over the weekend saying that because there's no agreement on how to fix the economy and fix the decifit, we may be downgraded again by the end of november, or into early december. bill: really. >> the trauma when s&p downgraded us in august, this analyst, merrill lynch, bank of america, saying it could happen again. bill: back in august, that was a headline for two weeks. stuart, thank you. i know you'll find the silver lining at 9:20 and fbn. so get looking! >> i'm trying! martha: going to follow him and see if he has that silver lining. we also have this, unemployment holding steady, above 9 percent, pretty much over the last two years. you would think that companies just don't have any open positions with those kind of numbers, right? but a stunning new report says that that is actually not the case. that companies do have jobs to fill. so why aren't they hiring? we're going to tell you what their biggest concern is. that's coming up. to turkey now, in the desperate search for

survivors, one day after a powerful earthquake ripped through that country, a 7.2 magnitude quake, leveling buildings and homes, killing more than 200 people, trapping tens of thousands underneath the rubble. the pictures that we have seen coming out of this situation is just stunning, frightening, and in some waves, heartwarming with some of these rescues. rin why ninan joins us from jerusalem with more on the latest rescue efforts. good morning, reena. >> reporter: good morning, martha. it has been a desperate attempt to try and save lives. at least 240 people have been killed, and thousands believed to be injured. workers have been working through the night to try and rescue anyone that they possibly can. there is this video, take a look, of one man being pulled out of the rubble. there are at least four cases like this that a turkish television was able to film. their worry also is that the aftershocks will continue. u.s. scientists said there were over 100 in the past ten hours, so there is still a fear and uncertainty that there might be more to come,

martha. martha: what about the controversy over aid that turkey rejected? >> reporter: well, there are countries like the u.s., france, even israel, which has a very frosty relationship with turkey, have all offered aid, israel is very good at these international rescue and recovery efforts, so there was a lot of questioning as to why they would not allow these countries to come in to help when these people are buried and are dying underneath the rubble. but turkey says they can handle it for now, but what many people don't know, martha, turkey sits on one of the most seismic activity zones in the world, so this is a situation that they've had to deal with in the past and they will continue to, martha. martha: reena, thank you very much. reena ninan. bill: now to campaign 2012, the republican presidential candidates hitting president obama on the foreign policy news, michele bachmann slamming the white house for its handling of the libyan

dry sis -- crisis, telling fox news host chris wallace that the u.s. should never have gotten involved in the first place: >> i think it was wrong for the united states to go into libya. look where we're at today. remember, again, barack obama said we were going into libya for humanitarian purposes. it wasn't humanitarian purposes. it was regime change. again, we have to recognize that there are missing today chemical weapons, the shoulder-fired missile launchers, this is very serious, we also don't know who the next regime will be that will be taking over libya. we knew who the devil was that was running, we don't know the next one. bill: in addition to those comments, there's a lot of news out of libya, the transitional government there declaring liberation over the weekend after the death of moammar qaddafi, also saying that islamic law will be the basis for the new government. how do they define that? we'll have more on that in moments here in "america's newsroom". that's a big story, martha. martha: that's right. meanwhile, you've got ron paul hitting the president very hard on friday's

announcement that all u.s. troops will be leaving iraq. ron paul says the situation on the ground is so chaotic he believes there is no way we would pull all of our troops out, he says the u.s. will just start to call them something different. take a look: >> no, i don't. we'll change their names. i mean, we're going to have -- they've already admitted there will be 15,000. but you know, they have morphed the private sector with the military, the cia and contractors, it's a mixture, but there's going to be 15,000 in the armed camp, you know, the fortress, the embassy, the biggest embassy in the world. martha: paul added that he believes the instability will last quite a while, and that the united states will continue pouring money into the fight. bill: also rick perry over the weekend getting drawn into the controversy over president obama's birth certificate, asked by parade magazine whether he thinks the certificate is real, he said the following: i have no reason to think otherwise. well, i don't have a

definitive answer because he's never seen my birth certificate. perry went on to say the subject came up with donald trump in new york, saying trump does not believe that the document that the white house released is, quote, real. remember that. ma march we'll have more on that with karl rove in a few minutes. in the meantime, the of nevada, bowing to political pressure on that early caucus date, agreeing they will move their contest to february instead of doing it in january. nevada is one of the several critical states that could decide the republican nominee and who will face president obama in 2012. >> it felt really good to have everyone on board and on the same page and ready to move forward and take on the president. >> to bring peace and harmony among the republican party, activists and candidates all across the country. martha: there you go, nevada republicans voted over the weekend, they said yep, they will make that change. you remember huntsman boycotted the debate because of this issue.

the new date will be february 4th. get your calendar out, bill, get that calendar over this and straighten this one out, january 14th, and iowa is the first state to vote on nominees on january 3rd, and in their caucuses and that will be followed by south carolina and by florida. bill: something had to give, right? >> martha: something that's to give. bill: so nevada gave and we're all set. those are some of the many stories we're watching on a monday and coming up, a real life jaws drama, expected in the death of several swimmers. plus: -- >> ♪ >> ♪ amazing grace. >> ♪ >> ♪ martha: amazing grace, from a vigil over the weekend and the search for baby lisa. details on the hit picked up by cadaver dogs inside the irwin home and why investigators are saying attention to surveillance video taken the night she disappeared. bill: herman cain tagged as

a flipflopper by rival candidates, will his comment s about abortion derail the cain train? karl rove on that. >> i'm a perfect candidate for -- find a perfect candidate for a perfect person who will not in a point in time in a presidential campaign not make a mistake missed. if something is taken out of context, i will be happy to explain the context in which it was taken out of and also explain what i meant. that's what you can believe about herman cain. plus a full serving of fruit. but it just tastes like fruit. v8. what's your number?

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martha: well, a texas man is killed by a shark off the southwest coast of aus yale. thirty-two-year-old george wayne wright, attacked over the weekend while driving with friends, witnesses say the shark appeared to be a great white, at least 10 feet long according to the surfacings, they say it surfaced and nunc dollars the dive boat as they hauled in his body.

the sisters react from florida. >> it's devastating president it's hard to even wrap your head around. ability believe he's gone. i think it was wrong place, wrong time, because he was very wise. i would trust him with anything to do with being on the water, always had complete confidence in his skills. it's devastating. you know, we had just talked about going over to australia for christmas possibly, just got an e-mail from him the day before. martha: and waynewright was in australia on a work visa, his death is the third fatal shark attack in that area in two month, so they're looking into that. bill: cuban nightmare, right? with his jobs bill in limbo president is pushing for a new plan to revive the housing market, a plan the white house believes will give relief to some folks under water. is this the answer for the economy? republican congressman martha mcburn is the house deputy whip. good morning, how you doing? >> doing well. bill: is this the answer? >> it is not the answer, bill. what we know is that more

government interference and another government prom on housing, on student loans, on whatever is the president's topic of the day, is not going to solve the problem. there is no bill that is going to solve the problem. the best economic stimulus is a job. the issue is jobs. what we need to do is get people working again, so that they can pay back loans and so that they can keep those houses. bill: i agree on you with jobs, when it comes to the economy, but the economy is tied into the real estate mess, too. you need to figure out an answer to help these folks if you want to help them dig out earlier rather than later. we were reporting at the end of last week, this is folks under water, that means they owe more on their home than the home is worth. now, come on out here a moment, i want you to react to that and we'll talk about the numbers i just put on the screen. >> right. well, what is happening is you go talk to any mortgage lender, any banker, they will tell you a big part of

the problem is fannie and freddie and fha and va and they need these regulators to back up and let them do their job. let them work with the individuals who are in these homes. let them help get them on a pathway. and you can talk with anybody who has been dealing with these, it is very difficult to get these mortgages repositioned and to get people refinanced into a lower rate. the paperwork, the fees that are being charged, the number of times people are having to have their credit checked, the number of times they are being told you've got to go back and you've got to get a reappraisal, it is astounding. so push aside a lot of this consumer financial protection bureau -- whatever it's called, push aside all of this dodd-frank, and say mortgage lenders, we are going to let you do your job, the way you know to do your job. bill: and what the white

house is argueing -- point taken, but the white house would argue these are people honest in their payments, they're trying to make it work, and this -- >> and they are. bill: this is a hand out to them to give assistance. we talked about home construction in america a bit earlier today. look at these numbers now. for the year, as of september of this year, we are projected, 658,000 new homes, in a healthy economy, you have to be twice that number. and one can make the argument that's where you find your jobs. construction. home building, et cetera. >> that's right. and bill, i would tell you this. if you went out and talked to mortgage lenders, they would tell you the federal government is the problem right now. if you go out and you talk to developers and home builders, they will say let us give you an equation. less regulation, plus less litigation, plus less taxation is going to equal

more innovation and more job creation. it works every time. what we have seen is the federal government is a big part of the problem. it is a road block to people trying to get these houses refinanced. it is a road block to developers trying to get back into building, whether it's the epa, whether it is on or aboutra -- esha, whether it is any number of these regulatory agencies, they have free enterprise hamstrung in this economy. bill one more thing. does the president need congressional approval for this or not? >> i find it amazing that the president is always trying to circumvent congress and his spokesperson, dan pfeiffer, is saying we need bold bipartisan action from congress. on a bipartisan basis, congress is saying let's reduce regulation, reduce some of this litigation and taxation. bill: there's a new theme,

it's called we can't wait. that will come from the white house during his tour out west in colorado, nevada, california. marsha blackburn is our republican guest out of nashville. >> good to be with you. bill: good to have you. martha: well, president obama announcing the pull out of all u.s. troops from iraq by the end of this year but now there are new fears about iran, that they may see a big opportunity in this moment. bill: another fall classic over the weekend, game four, world series, president george bush throwing out the first pitch in his home town of dallas. the game is in arlington, technically. but that's a pretty good shot there. he didn't use the rubber on the mound, though. he was in front. but it was right down the middle. martha: the texas rangers beat the st. louis cardinals, the series tied at two games apiece. bill: how about that for a high five? nolan ryan. >> he missed the pitch. bill: how do you get those front row pickets -- tickets? >> martha: got to know

somebody. bill: game five. we're back in three minutes.

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bill: 222 -- 22 minutes past the hour a. loaded handgun making it past airport security in los angeles, that gun tumbling out of a checked duffle bag. lab liberty, check it out, log on, the statue of liberty getting equipped with web cams on the crown and torch balcony so now anyone can enjoy the stunning views, 24 hours a day, lady liberty turning 125 years old. >> crowds in australia greeting queen elizabeth, the queen attending church services on sunday in the capitol of tambera. martha. martha: well, president obama's plan to pull all 40,000 u.s. troops from iraq

by year's end is raising a lot of concerns about what iran's next move will be. with that is a a backdrop, there is fear iran has been waiting for this moment to seize the opportunity to spread its influence across the shared border with iraq and really throughout the region. here are powerful words on this from senator john mccain. >> yes, it is viewed in the region as a victory for the iranians, and i don't think there's any doubt there is. i think it's a serious mistake, i believe we could have negotiated an agreement, and i'm very, very concerned about increased iranian influence in iraq. martha: all right. there you have it. let's bring in fox news military analyst lieutenant general tom mcinerny, former vice assistant chief of staff. he talked about the status of the agreement. explain how things would have been different had they been able to work something out. what would be different? >> if we had been able to

work out the worses agreement which would have given the forces immunity from the iraqi leg forces that we would try our own people, then we'd probably have in there, 15-20,000 troops, which would be a stabilizing force. we continually want to draw down. we're at 40,000 now. but by moving them all out by, what, 65 days, martha, we are sending a signal to iran that is a green light for them, and i think that is very dangerous. i agree with the senator. and it may prove to be a major political blunder in coming years. it may look good right now for the election, but it could prove to be a major political blunder in the middle east to the united states. martha: that would be a shame to walk the ground over this ground, time and treasure u, really. hillary clinton speaks tough to iran, saying do not misjudge us, we will have a

wide influence regardless of this decision and she also had this to say. listen to this: >> remember that it was president bush that set the timetable in motion by agreeing with the iraqis that all troops would be out by the end of this year, and of course, president obama promised the american people that the troops would be out by the end of this year. martha: so she says it's just a continuation really of the bush plan. >> there's no question that the status of force agreement that the bush administration signed said that, but in all honesty, they expected to be able to work something out to leave that residual force that i mentioned earlier, and i can blame both administrations, but in the final analysis, the obama administration is making this decision. i believe the senator -- as senator mccain said, if they could have negotiated an agreement and status of forces that would have been acceptable to us. look what happens, martha, if iraq becomes aligned with

iran, then you have a clear path directly into israel. they already have syria and lebanon, with hezbollah, and already have in the graza strip with hamas. so we have a major problem. we're seeing covert action going on in egypt and jordan now with iranian influence. iran is the major radicallist islamist group in the region that is createing this instability. we must be very, very careful. martha: no doubt. thank you very much, for laying it out for us, lieutenant general tom mcinerny, always good to see you sir, thank you. bill: watch what you wish for. it will be months if not years before we figure this out in that part of the world. as we watch iraq, too, there are new concerns that libya could turn into a fanatical, islamic state and egypt could follow after that. so is sharia law flowing but the region? and brit hume says it may be downhill for her can cain. what's up with that? karl rove is up next. >> let me tell you something else before i go through

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bill: got a fox news alert, new surveillance video that has surfaced in the case of missing missouri baby lisa irwin. >> ♪ >> ♪ amazing grace. >> ♪

>> bill: that from a vigil over the weekend, the sounds of amazing grace, this as police dogs pick up the scent of a dead body inside the irwin home. mike tobin, good morning. what does the surveillance video show? does it help? >> reporter: we'll see. it shows a man off in the distance, wearing white pants and it was shot about 2 miles away from the irwin house on the night baby lisa disappeared, so why is this relevant? it is because there are two witnesses, two separate witnesses, from that night, october 4th, who claim that they saw a man in white pants carrying a baby, is caught their eye because it was the middle of the night and they claim the baby was wearing nothing but a diaper. this surveillance video was shot at a location between the two points where those witnesses claim they saw a man carrying a baby so quite possibly the distant image of a man in white pants is the man they're talking about. bill: the dog scent, did that lead investigators anywhere? >> so far, it's just

information that we got off the affidavit. there was another news crew that went through the house and saw that the carpet has not been pulled up from that location where, according to the police affidavit or the search warrant affidavit, the dog keyed or alerted on that spot on the carpet. so for whatever reason the spot where police say they picked up the scent of something that had died, police have not removed that section of carpet. bill: still a mystery. mike tobin, thank you. good to see you. >> the abortion blunder was -- it was kind of inexplicable. i mean, trying to -- it doesn't walk it back when you say it ought to be the person's choice but oh yeah, it's also illegal. i'm sorry, that doesn't help. so i suspect that herman cain may have peaked and may begin to decline. martha: so he's been surging in recent polls as you know but our senior political analyst say the honeymoon

may be over, cain saying he's prolife but that the decision should be a personal one and brit hume nls that contradiction is a big problem for herman cain. here's the her -- here's the interview that i did with him on friday. >> look, abortion should not be clear. that's clear. if you if they make the decision to break the law, that's that family's decision, that's all i'm trying to say. martha: karl rove was deputy chief of staff to president george w. bush and also a fox news contributor. karl, good to have you here this morning. >> thanks martha. martha: do you agree with what brit hume said about herman cain and his trajecty? >> yes, if you look at the polls, there's a hint that between october 6th and october 10th, cain peaked and has begun to slide slightly since then. look, it's not just abortion. it's that cain has had a number of misstatements. we've had abortion, we had earlier this year, that he didn't understand what the rite of return, for the palestinian demand for the

right of return, he said he didn't understand what neoconservatives were when it came to foreign policy, he had a rather odd answer on afghan policy, basically i'll figure it out once i get into office, the federal sales tax, the way he handled it in the debate, apels and orange -- apels and oranges and he wouldn't acknowledge it and then he has a value added tax in the form of the 9 percent corporate tax rate or is it 9 percent corporate income tax rate, and the whole effect of this is to not create an image i think of him as being a flipflopper. i think it's to create an image of being not up to this task. and that's really deadly. that's really deadly for a presidential candidate. martha: a question. everybody is listening to these folks as they're up there and evaluating their answers on these things and i think any candidate can get away with one or two times where they sort of make a mistake or taken out of context, truly. i think everybody can sort of excuse that once in a while. i want to play, this is

herman cain on fox & friends in response to the wolf blitzer question when he was asked about whether or not he would be willing to endure the prisoner trade that benjamin netanyahu did. here's what he said about that. >> he did a quick redirect and referred to gitmo and in the heat of getting ready for the debate, i didn't stop and see that gitmo is where we hold terrorists, so i misstated, so i spoke relative to that but i went back and corrected and said as president, we will not negotiate with terrorists. martha: problematic, right? >> yeah, confusing. better to say not to get into the detail, but simply say let me tell you what my view is, this is my view. you're right, everybody gets a mulligan, everybody gets a couple of mulligans but you look at herman cain's record and while he shows passion, energy, he's grabbed attention with the 999 tax plan, all of the cumulative

effect is to create a sense that he's not up to it. now look, he's not the only one, though, i saw governor perry of texas this morning, who you know, had an okay debate performance last week after extraordinarily bad ones, has started to talk about a flat tax, this looks like a way to bend his campaign in a positive trajectory, and today, he comes out and is quoted as sort of adding a little bit of fuel to the fire that barack obama was not born in the united states, sort of semi aligned himself with the birthers. these kind of things do not help, whether it's herman cain or governor perry, it doesn't help them convince the american people they're up to the job. martha: we have that quote, and we can pull it up, and you know, it's a very wide ranging interview. i read through the whole thing, and obviously, perry is trying to get back on the map here, and a lot of his answers on a lot of things he's been questioned on before seem to be good and comprehensive in this interview, but this is the one section that's getting a lot of attention today and you mentioned it, he says i have no reason to think otherwise, with regard to the president's citizenship,

while i don't have a definitive answer, because he's never seen my birth certificate, which seems to be an odd way to look at t then he says i was in donald trump's office and he's not sure it's the real thing. it goes around in loops here. >> look, you associate yourself with a nutty view like that and you damage yourself. and i know he went and these trying to cultivate as all of them are don add trump in order to get his endorsement but this is not the way to go about doing it because it starts to marginalize you in the minds of some of the people whom you need in order to get the election. and there's a simple answer. yes, he was born in the united states. yes, he is eligible to serve. and don't associate yourself with sort of this nutty fringe group. martha: interesting. karl, great to get an update from you on where things stand. we'll see you soon, take care. >> thank you martha. bill: checking the market on a monday, we were flying on friday, investors reacting to several reports, caterpillar came out and blew out their number, up 267 at the close on flir,

that put investors in a very good mood for the weekend, up about 43 points at the open. martha: the happy-sad equation, they look at europe and say oh, not such good news, but caterpillar, that's good. it's up and down. bill: find it wherever you can. martha: exactly. is the white house trying to have it both ways on immigration? this is a question raised. why the civil rights group is slamming the administration on its handling of illegals. bill: also a new report revealing that american companies have numerous positions open for hire, so why aren't they bringing in the new workers? this is a big issue with an intriguing answer and even johnny paycheck knows that. >> ♪ >> ♪ >> ♪

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afghanistan, the afghan president hamid karzai says he really wouldn't return the naifer a regional war, president karzai telling a pakistani tv station his country would, quote, side with pakistan if it was attacked by either the united states or india. listen to this: >> if pakistan is attacked, and if the people of pakistan need afghanistan's help, afghanistan will be there. afghanistan is a brother. and with the united states and pakistan -- this is our attitude towards pakistan. martha: interesting, right? the interview was conducted one day after karzai welcomed secretary of state hillary clinton to the presidential palace. bill: there is a new report out revealing more than half of u.s. employers do not feel -- cannot fill open positions. according to manpower group, 52 percent of employers report difficulty filling the openings because they say they cannot find qualified candidates. 35 percent of those companies cite their lack of

experience. john fund, senior editor of american spectator with me now. john, good morning to you. what do you think of the study first off? then i want to dig a lot deeper into these numbers here. >> i think companies really are worried they're not getting skilled workers and not just people who have knowledge that they need, but basic literacy sometimes. you know, in the california state university system, something like 45 percent of entering students have to take remedial education courses meaning they didn't learn what they needed to learn in high school. so i think the basis of this is our horrible public education system and the companies are reacting in part to that. bill: so you blame the education system, because the -- >> there's a lot of blame to go around but that's where it starts. bill: what the companies would point to, and there's a piece in the "wall street journal" that says the idea of an apprenticeship within a company has gone by the wayside and also, promoting from within, which also can be key to finding the right worker for the right job, in the right position at that company. would you agree with the

premise? >> the numbers in the journal story that people are not promoting from within are very compelling. as for apprenticeship programs, we have a different system in europe where they basically take students at the age of 14 and sidetrack them into blue collar professions or send them on to college. i think the community colleges, though, we could do a lot better job with, community colleges exist to give people practical skills at a much lower tuition than regular universities and i also think of course if we can't get the skilled workers, especially in engineering and technical fields, there is a ready supply we could bring in. there are lots of foreign students who study engineering and other technical students but they have to go back to their home country. bill: to bring the brain power into the u.s. >> it's already here. give them a temporary green card or a permanent green card if they're in a job where it's clearly the case that we don't have enough skilled workers and clearly in engineering, steve jobs said this in one of his last interviews before he died, he complained to president

obama, you know, i have 700,000 workers in china, that's because we need 30,000 engineers there to oversee them. if we could have those engineers, enough engineers in the u.s., we could bring more manufacturing back to the u.s. but we don't have 30,000 engineers. bill: did he get anywhere with that argument? >> the president listened, the president was interested, but that was a year ago and nothing has happened. bill the point of the journal article is that there are ways around it but you as a company have to use your moj nation. i understand what you're saying about skilled workers, developing them at the educational level and the green card and what steve jobs said. this is what we found, though. when it comes to skilled workers and who's hiring and who's not, on the right is 2006, what was the most sought after job there, it was being a sales rep, using social and communications skills to sell a product or to get business. in 2011, it's the skilled trades, and that goes back to your point. >> well, both of those require an educational system. you know, even a sales rep has to know how to read, write and communicate, and

if we're not teaching even those skills properly in some schools, especially the inner cities, we're going to have a problem. bill: john fund, thank you. american spectator. nice to see you, okay? we'll see whether or not we can dig ourselves out of this. martha, what's next? martha: got a lot coming up here. we're going talk about immigration in the next block, because there's a big controversy going on at the white house with regard to immigration and whether or not they are truly on the side of the people in this alabama issue. that's coming up right after ♪

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there's one dentist in iowa who's willing to pay, craig caoer gives kids an opportunity to trade in sweets for cold hard cash. a pound gets awe dollar. he says this gets kids to enjoy trick or treating, he is ralphs off two bicycles and every kid gets a toothbrush. martha: show me a kid who's going to turn their candy in for a buck and i'll show you an odd child, okay? i mean, let them eat candy for one day! brush their teeth hard after ward, it will all be okay. we won't get too deeply into the dentist issue. coming up, fears of brutal drug gangs have crippled tourism in mexico. more than half of the hunting lodges in a $20 million per year industry have now closed, that's because tourists are concerned and not making reservations but thanks to a new police force that may be about to change. steve harrigan has the latest from miami for us. good morning, steve.

>> reporter: martha, things have gotten so bad in mexico and parts of the territory near the mexico border that even hunters with rifles now need protection. if you plan on taking a hunting or fishing vacation in mexico this year you may have some company. armed guards, now used by many lodges to keep their clients safe from run-ins with the drug cartels. prime dove, dear, bats and fishing zones near the border are also battle zones in the drug war, forcing more than 250 hunting lodges to shut down, threatening the country's tourism industry. >> we have lost about 95 percent of business, people from the states used to come here a lot. >> reporter: a five year battle between the government and cartels has left 43,000 dead, and exposed mexico's police force as complicit. an entirely new force, the

civil guard, is being formed to fight the cartels. there is also training to defend against what may be the most potent weapon in the cartel's arsenal, the 100peso note. >> [speaking in spanish] >> reporter: regular police in mexico earn about $600 a month. this new force which they hope will be uncorruptible will earn three times that amount. martha. martha: thank you very much, steve harrigan from miami. bill: there is incredible new video of europe's most active volcano erupting in sicily. heck this out, mount etna, surging 300 pete good the sowo into the air, the airport reopening after eight flights were canceled due to smoke and ash. according to italian officials, this is the 17th eruption this year alone. you remember the one out of

iceland, when the plumes were 35,000 feet in the air. martha: remember the name of that. bill: -- bill: it had like 18consonants in it. martha: we'll see if this one causes similar trouble. we hope not. in the meantime there's a new attack on president obama's foreign policy decision. coming up, we'll find out why a leading republican says that key decisions on iraq and afghanistan he believes are being run out of chicago, and not washington. bill: also, is the president modeling his reelection campaign on fdr? we'll tell you why the white house might be looking back some 70 years for inspiration.

martha: this is a fascinating stoamplet this just released biography on apple ceo steve jobs reveals a remarkable moment in his life, an accidental encounter with his biological father, biographer walter isaacson saying that twot met unexpectedly at a restaurant. watch: >> so mona goes to the coffee shop, meets this guy, running it, who says among other things when she asked how sorry he is, but thensy he says that he had had another child and mona said what happened to him, he said i don't know, we'll never hear from him again, and then he says i wish you could have seen me when i was running a bigger restaurant, i used to run one of the best restaurants in silicon valley, everyone used to come there, even steve jobs used to eat there and mona was sort of taken aback and bites her tongue and doesn't say steve jobs is your son, but she looked

shocked, and he said yeah, he was a great tipper. martha: boy, what a story. according to isaacson, when jobs' illness became public, his father sent him his medical history in hopes it would help him with his treatments but after meeting at the restaurant the two apparently never spoke again and we've known for some time this story about the biological father but to hear this story, mona, who was his sister, who was a child of the parents who did marry, steve jobs' parents marry after she wasn't allowed to marry him when she was first pregnant with steve jobs, they had this daughter, mona, and they were both looking into their biological past, and he says boy, even steve jobs comes to my restaurant. bill they interviewed the father in the "wall street journal" about a month ago and he said i would send him e-mails all the time and i believe i heard from him twais, very short notes like thank you, and that was about it. for this father, now living in reno, nevada, working in that restaurant.

martha: amazing. that a couple brought two children into the world, steve jobs and mona, his sister, a writer. and a call for islamic sharia law in libya, the strict code of conduct often criticized for violating human rights, this just hours after the new government officially declared this liberation. that's how we get started on a busy morning on "america's newsroom", good to have you with us today, i'm martha mccall. bill: bim hemmer. libya's transitional leader, seen here with president obama, saying that sharia law would be the basic source of legislation for his country, quote this, revolution was looked after by god to achieve victory, end quote. david piper, live from the capitol city of tripoli, what will the introduction of sharia mean for libyans, david? >> reporter: hi bill. yes, well, it really means how they will introduce it here, how they will use it. we heard from the head of

the ntc, he was saying yesterday in that major speech as they announced the liberation, that sharia law will be the basis of all law, but this is a very religious country already. there's no nightclubs here, bars, and alcohol has been banned since qaddafi took power, and when you walk around the streets, most people, most women, are wearing scarves, very few actually covering their face in total, but when you walk around, you understand that it is a very religious country. qaddafi introduced some reforms, but he also pushed sharia law, but he was very strict in some ways, which we don't know if they were introduced, for instance, armed robbery, he was including amputations if there were serious crimes here, but it's really the interpretation here. but it will give encouragement to islamists in this country who are a growing force. and as we've seen in neighboring tunisia, people

there have -- >> bill: they are voting in tunisia. david piper, thanks, live from tripoli, libya. we will see where this story goes. martha: we saw a similar situation rapidly deer deteriorate in afghanistan, with the taliban taking over when the soviets pulled out. so now there are concerns about who is in charge after the revolution in egypt as well, and so the fear is rising that libya could follow suit in a similar way. walid faris, author of the coming revolution, joins me, walid, good morning. one of the headlines, in one of the new york papers this morning, basically says that men are free to marry as many women as they want now in libya, and that there will be a lot of restrictions on freedom for women in that country. where is this all going? >> basically, it was very clear that yesterday the head of the transitional council, in one speech told us about the genome ofo what

is going to happen in libya, that means an islamist state. he was legislating from the microphone. he already said they're going to counsel laws, any law that contradicts sharia law, basically what that means is a whole array of political parties and forces that would call for secular or democracy will be banned from the beginning. that's the form of democracy that libya is going to be experiencing. martha: it's incredible, when you look at the whole issue of the arab spring and all of the jubilation that followed in these countries in egypt and tunisia as these leaders that have been in place for decades were toppled, and there's so much hope that this is a period that you could see democracy emerging, so there's got to be a lot of inner struggle in all of these countries with people who would like to see that, and then the sort of more iron fist of those who want to impose sharia law in these countries. >> unfortunately, at the beginning of -- any of these processes in egypt and

tunisia and libya, actually, a secular, civil society but because we did not partner and support them, what they did was bring down the crusader, we did not help the democratic forces to move up so we're moving the countries from the dick at that timorship of one man to the dictatorship of an ideology. martha: and it raises a lot of questions about what iran might think as it looks across this spectrum and you go back in history and talk about the rereforming of a calfate across this whole area and wonder if that's where this is all headed. we hope not. >> we hope not but the policy of the west in general has led to the following. half of the middle east will go under iranian influence, there will be iran, iraq, syria and lebanon, and the other half will go under the muslim brotherhood influence, tunisia, libya, egypt and maybe other countries as well. so that's the result of what we have done so far. martha: quite a picture. walid, we'll see if that's what we see when all this

gets sorted out. thank you very much for being with us today, walid phares. bill: meanwhile a scathing attack on president obama's foreign policy. senator lindsey graham, saying that chicago is in charge of iraq and afghanistan policy, basically saying the reelection team is calling the shots. he also criticized the president's policy on israel: >> israel has been thrown under the bus by this president. his standing in the state of israel is very low. the iranians don't fear us at all. they're trying to attack us here at home. so i would argue that iraq and afghanistan is being run out of chicago, not washington, in terms of decisions. bill: that from fox news sunday with chris wallace. gral also went on to urge the republican field to step it up on foreign policy. martha. martha: and the obama administration, pulling its ambassador out of syria, after, quote, credible threats against his personal safety. he is ambassador robert ford, now back in washington.

the state department says he's been the target of several threats by pro government supporters. last month, ford was literally trapped inside a building for several hours when government supporters tried to force their way into a meeting he was having with a prominent opposition figure. bill: got some breaking news, a fox news alert at this hour, the iranian american charged in a terror plot to assassinate the saudi ambassador to the u.s. in washington, set to be arraigned in a federal court. now, the feds are saying that this man admitted to his role in a plan to bomb a popular washington restaurant. the plot, the feds are claiming, had the blessings of higher ups in the iranian government. eric shawn at the federal courthouse in lower manhattan, eric, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, bill. it is a case of alleged iranian terror that reached right here into the united states. just a few moments here at the downtown federal courthouse in lower manhattan, we expect to see monsir al babshiar, the

former corpus christi used car dealer who is charged, accused of using the iranian quds force to assassinate the saudi ambassador to the united states while dineing in a washington, d.c. restaurant. according to the complaint and the investigation against ababsiar, they say he was cooperating with iranian officials to carry this out against abdel ab jabbar, they say he agreed to a $1.5 million deal for the assassination, that he was given and passed on, a $100,000 downpayment from the iranian officials to someone he thought was a hit man for the mexicoan during cartels but was really a confidential envelope apartment for the drug enforcement administration. according to the complaint, ababsiar said, quote, they want that guy done. if 100 go with him, f him. i'm going to blow him up or shoot him, whatever you want, arbabsiar said yeah,

it doesn't matter, whatever is easy for you. prosecutors say that he has confessed he apparently is cooperating. as for the iranian, they have denied this alleged plot, they say it is baseless and grant it a quote hollywood scenario. expect arbabsiar to appear in court 15 minutes from now. bill: if he is cooperating, we'll wait to see how much he says and what he reveals. in new york, eric shawn, thank you. martha: that website that leaked tens of thousands of u.s. secrets, apparently short of money these days, wickileaks says it will stop releasing information right now, because they need to raise money, hobbled by a financial blockade from companies like visa, mastercard, western union and pay pal, wickileaks says it focus on, quote, aggressive fundraising. bill: needs some money. who doesn't, right? what's so interesting is how many tentacles are on that. every news story that breaks here or overseas, somehow

someone is finding a connection to explain the behavior or attitude based on what was leaked, some of it might be legit, some not. who knows. martha: but they need money if they're going to keep the leaking going. bill don't know what you did over the weekend, but we know what the candidates for the republican nomination did. they were out in force, especially in iowa, rick perry swinging on the issue of abortion. >> we respect life. we respect life as a gift of god, and what god has created, we should always work for protect. that's not merely an article of faith. it is natural law. bill: how the governor of texas took shots at herman cain and mitt romney without even mentioning their names. >> martha: and the obama administration, challenging alabama's tough new immigration law but civil rights groups are pointing at the president in this issue. why he's being accused by them of having a double standard. bill: new surveillance tapes, a new lead possibly

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martha: here's one question this morning, is the president trying to have it both ways really on immigration? the aclu and several latino groups say that the obama administration is challenging the strict alabama law while using it to deport illegals. we're going to hash this out for you and explain it. stephen camerata, director of research for the center of immigration studies, and felipe matos, spokesman for presente.org, a latino advocacy group calling on president obama to stop the securities program. gentlemen, welcome. good to have you both here today. felipe, good morning. basically we're all pretty familiar with, because we've

done many stories on it here, the fact that the alabama immigration law is considered the toughest in the country which allows them to stop -- when people are stopped for a violation they can ask them about their documentation and if they don't have it they can pursue deportation, then you've got the secure communities program which is a separate program. felipe, explain that to us and explain why you're against that. >> so basically, secure communities is a program that allows local police to cooperate with immigration. the problem is not only that local -- local communities are afraid to report crimes to the police but also we see a rise in racial profiling, so what we saw recently in a report just released by the institute, by the university of california, is that 90 percent of the arrests done by ascom for secure communities have been by latinos, only 77 percent of undocumented workers in this country are latinos, so we can see a trend of people targeting latinos

specifically. martha: stephen, when you sort of step back from all of this it appears you could interpret it that the obama administration sort of wants to have it both ways, that they're trying to please latino voters who are in favor of allowing immigrants to have sort of a softer entry to this country on the one hand, and on the other hand, they want to be able to come out and say we've deported more illegals than any prior administration. >> the secure communities is just common sense. all the security communities does is when somebody is arrested and is in jail, they check their finger pints -- fingerprints to see if they're an illegal alien, just like they check to see if they're on a fugitive wand or anything else. what they object to is the enforcement of our laws. secure to me is the bare minimal and the obama administration is doing it because it's overwhelmingly popular with the american people and they have no choice, they have to do it. martha: what do you say to that argument? >> it's important to mention that what we can't forget is

the constitution of the united states. we have due process in this country, and this program is taking away due process, not only of immigrants but also of u.s. citizen, latinos, for example, the same report that i just mentioned said that 4000 u.s. citizens were arrested because of secure communities, and this is manager that we cannot allow in this country. this is why we're today starting a campaign to ask the main spokesperson for secure communities in the obama administration to set the record straight, if they want our support as a community, we need their support as well. martha: but would you agree, felipe, that if won is in the country illegally, that that's breaking the law. is that breaking the law to be here illegally? >> honestly, immigration law is not necessarily criminal law, right? what happens is that those people are being put in a jail, even though they are not -- they have not committed a crime, per se. what we need to remember, also, is that this is a

country of immigrants, right, this is a country that was built with the efforts of immigrants from all over the world. and this is -- >> martha: i'm going to jump in on you there. because stephen, this is where this conversation gets muddled. there's a difference between legal immigration, which many of the immigrants that built our country came here legally, and illegal immigration and this question of whether or not you're breaking the law when you enter the country illegally. stephen, you address that, please. >> right, of course. we're not just a nation of immigrants but we're also a nation of laws. and all this is is simple common sense. if you're arrested, and they're not looking for you, but if you're arrested and in jail, they're going to check your fingerprints and if you're an illegal immigrant, hopefully they're going to make you go home and again this, is the kind of thing that americans say is of course, it's just common sense. anyone who objects to this is manufacturing controversy. this is the kind of thing that 80, 90 percent of the american people want, and have overwhelming support among latinos. martha: felipe, i know you

disagree, and we'll leave it there. you mapped that out for us. so thank you very much for being with us, stephen, felipe, interesting move out of the administration and we'll stay on top of it. bill: it will be a topic during the campaign. speaking of the campaign the battle for reelection, is president obama trying to channel fdr? we'll explain why he might be looking to the depression-era president for strategy tips in 2012. martha: scent of human remains detected inside baby lisa's house as police look for this mystery man, another part of this story, who was caught that night on surveillance tape. >> please bring her back as soon as a possible to a family that misses her, loves her. help me be strong, lord.

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martha: some headlines we're following for you this hour. you've heard of secondhand smoke, right? now there are worries about secondhand tv. a study finds tv exposure may hurt child development even if the child is not actively watching television. more than a dozen people were injured in kenya after a suspected grenade goes off inside a pub, the attack, just two days after the u.s. warned of possible terror attacks in that country. hazmat crews are investigating a white powder that was found around the federal courthouse in denver. so far we're told it was not hazardous and may have been planted to look like anthrax. bill: seen that before, haven't we? there are new developments now in the mystery surrounding missing baby lisa irwin, the now 11 month old said to have been seen last in her crib, about three weeks ago tonight. new surveillance footage emerging of a so called mystery man, a man dressed in white, seen emerging from the woods in the early morning hours, not far from the baby's home, the night lisa was reported missing. does this take us anywhere

now? judge alex ferrer, my host of judge alex. good morning to you. the man in the surveillance video, does it tell you anything, judge? >> well, obvious lerks if it's linked to the case it does. it's just a question of whether it plays more for the defense or the state because remember, the claim of the family was somebody snuck in and took the baby so a man walking with the baby which actually several witnesses saw and now a surveillance video showing a man coming out of the woods at something like 4:00 in the morning could be tied to the case, it could be an individual who kidnapped the child or it could be an individual who is disposing of a body of a child who's already dead. bill: or it could be a dead-end, too. i think abc reported this was an area that was less than 2 miles from the home. 2 miles is a long way. now, i want to -- >> it is a long way. we expect to hear more people who saw it. bill: i want to ask you about these cadaver dogs. >> sure. bill: do we know when a dog went into the home and when

a dog had some sort of hit on a human scent? >> it just happened during the recent searching of the home. not too long ago. last week. but the importance of that is the cadaver dogs are incredibly accurate. there was a study done on them a few years ago in switzerland and they found -- people think oh, it's only a decomposing body. no, these dogs, they did a test when they alerted on human remains of a body that had been dead for three hours and placed on a spot for less than two minutes and in that time frame the dogs were 94 percent accurate, so they're extremely accurate. of course, there's the risk of, you know, handler bias or unintentionally or inadvertently -- or actually intentionally causing the dog to alert, but that's the same as a witness accurate when they identify who they saw. that's a question for the -- >> bill: we talked to mike tobin out of chicago, he was in the town, on the story for us for weeks and he

wasn't sure whether or not any of the carpet had been dug up in the house which may indicate whether or not they took the hit serious from the dog. it's difficult, because the mother is not talking to police. now you as a judge, based on your experience, as you sit on that bench, and examine these murder cases or cases of disappearing people, now, at what point did the police and investigators consider this a cold case? are we near that? >> no, no, no. they are very far from this being a cold case. this is a hot investigation. it's going to continue to be a hot investigation for the foreseeable future by a long shot. you know, the mother's refusal to cooperate, sure it could be because the police were coming at her so strongly, but let's face it, if or i lose a child and the police are falsely accusing us, we may get angry with them but the last thing in the world we're going to do is refuse to cooperate because we want the police to find the child. that's a very bad sign for the parents. bill the clue, they are so

elusive, the number on the screen, judge, we put that up many times to nonviewers in the area if they have a lead on anything, to phone it in. what's next? you point to two options. what are they? >> i mean, obviously, the person walking with the child is a very suspicious sign, and could play to either side. especially with a cadaver dog alerting inside the house. the police i think are probably going to start getting more leads because somebody walking with a baby, one viewing was close to the house and the other viewing was 3 miles away, the videotape, a couple miles away, there are going to be other people, even at 4:00 in the morning, there are going to be other that is saw this individual walking and i suspect we'll get more description of who the individual -- what the individual looks like and police are obviously going to have to widen their scope of searching for a body because it certainly could have been disposed of, god forbid she is actually deceased but it could have been disposed of much further away if that man was involved in the case. bill: i hope you're right on the clues, because they can

use them. thank you, judge alex ferrer out of miami. martha: rick perry may have dropped a bit in the polls, but he's going downswinging at this point and trying to make a comeback. he is unleashing a new round of attacks aimed at his opponents' views on abortion: >> we must set a high moral standard at home. that starts with protecting our most innocent and vulnerable unborn children. [applause] fiber makes me sad. oh common. and how can you talk to me about fiber while you are eating a candy bar? you enjoy that. i am. [ male announcer ] fiber beyond recognition. fiber one.

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martha: the folks in new hampshire are happy in morning, they are expected to announce the first in the nation primary after growing pressure made nevada push their caucus back from january to february. this aeu new hampshire to be right where they want to be. first in the nation is extremely important to them. that will be january the 10th one week after iowa's caucus . that put things back in the usual order. carl cameron joins me live in washington. carl, looks like we've finally got this calendar issue sorted out. what does it look like and who benefits from this? >> reporter: at first blurb it benefits the frontrunners because it accelerates the calendar. the first in the nation lead off caucuses will take place as they historically have for the last 30 years in iowa. this time they will here be on a tuesday the 3rd. new hampshire will be allowed to

go on the 10th now, because nevada over the weekend moved off the 14th. see the x through the 14th? they wanted to be only four days behind new hampshire but new hampshire's law requires nobody be less than seven days behind it. nevada moved off to february. the next real contest will be the first southern primary. that will take place in south carolina. no republicans won the presidency without first winning in south carolina. and the last contest in january will be florida on the 31st. four days of that nevada will go, on the 4th of february. that is the calendar. because it now accelerates things we are ten weeks from tomorrow, the first votes will be ten weeks from tomorrow. now in iowa right now herman cain leads the most recent poll by iowa university, but the reality is cain is attesting to building an organization but there is a lot of skepticism, a lot of iowa republican caucus goers say he probably does not have the organization that he

hopes to have in ten weeks. he's got a little bit of time left to build it. it will be a big, big challenge for him to put together the kind of organization that can within a caucus straw poll with the leads he has in the polls. martha: obviously mitt romney has not ever been favored in iowa. this is rick perry's moment. if he wants to steal the ground that has been taken by herman cain in iowa that is the golden opportunity for him, right? >> reporter: that is the thing. iowa is evangelical and socially christian republican vote is now very much divided. they are trying to choose between hefrpl and cain, who has had some mistakes, rick perry who hasn't impressed them, michelle bachmann who has faded rapidly. mitt romney says he has a chance to compete in iowa. once the ads start on television no candidate wants to stop. get ready for the barrage to begin. it's days away and won't stop until the nomination is clinched.

martha: we are excited. we are looking forward to all of it. bill: that sets the table nicely for our next topic. texas governor expressing his positions on two social issues in iowa. criticizing some republican candidates on abortion claiming they are not really a pro-life candidate. >> it is a liberal can ar canard to say i am personally pro-life but government should stay out of this position. if that is your view you are not pro-life, you are prohaving your cake and eating it too. [applause] >> we respect life. we respect life as a gift of god. bill: tony saig is national political correspondent for news service. good morning. he said it's time for bold

bright colors and not pastels. what did you think of perry's strategy on that speech? >> listen, bill, rick perry by all accounts has had a really terrible debate season. now the campaign is transitioning from those kind of forums to more of his comfort zones where you are speaking to republican audiences mostly in conservative party settings. he can re-establish his position as a conservative. what has hurt perry the most with the conservatives is his immigration position. that is where this whole thing started going downward for him. using this issue of life and obviously pointing out a contrast with both cain and romney which he is doing gives him the opportunity to bring the conservative momentum back. >> wher back. bill: where else do you do it but in iowa. they showed us in 2008 that the evangelical vote is

significant. look at governor huckabee's win in 2008. you believe goff perry always knew i had a arrow in his quiver. >> he was sure when he was back in texas that he was going to be able to pull this out as his not so secret weapon. the opportunity he has since his campaign is spiraling out of control, it's to become the candidate is the i don't trust women candidate. back in may he pushed through an emergency measure, emergency piece of legislation that is probably the most invasive anti-a portion legislation we've seen across the country, and considering that he's been in office for a record number of years, why in may it was an emergency to force doctors to show women an ultrasound if they wanted to get an abortion, force doctors to lecture to women. bill: you claim it's all politics and has nothing to do

with his position. >> all politics, he wanted this in his back pocket. herman cain opened up the door for him with some of his comments that aren't going to please the evangelical and social christian vote. bill: now there is the battle for who is the most conservative. i want to roll a piece of tape from saturday, i think it was in northwestern iowa, rick perry is the first one to go to the issue over guns. so roll this and listen to it. >> as long as i've got memory i had something to go hunting with, so it was a long love affair with a boy and his gun that turned into a machine and his gun, and then it turned into a man and his son and his daughter and their guns. it's i think one of the great american traditions is taking your family hunting. bill: tony in one weekend you go back to abortion and guns. does that win in iowa? 4. >> it wins in iowa and it wins frankly as carl cameron pointed

out in another very important state south carolina. iowa and south carolina are the most critical pieces to the perry electoral puzzle if he's going to become the nominee. these issues do matter in republican primaries. i will disagree slightly when she talks about the fact that this will somehow make perry less appeal in a general. the general election issue solely is going to be the economy. that is where the entire-decision making on a national stage is going to occur, not on social issues. in the primary states there are, for example, in iowa 60% evangelical conservatives making up the caucus goers. bill: i'm short on time, respond to that. >> the women's vote is going to be key in this election, and we saw some of the women's vote drop off for democrats in the 2010 midterm election. so i do think that the economy, as tony said is absolutely going to be top of mind, but -- bill: first have you to win the

nomination. >> so what else can you say, but i hate women and i love guns. >> come on. that's not what was said. believing in life is not hating women. bill: tony thank you for your time, jemu thanks. martha: a 20-year-old marine he setting out for a mik hike in the wilderness with his buddy, before the afternoon was over he was dead from a gunshot wound, the man with him may not face any charges. bill: president obama may be looking to fdr for some political and strategy advice.

bill: hundreds of colleagues and fans remembering indycar racer

dan wheldon. he died last sunday in a horrific crash in las vegas. some of his fellow drivers helping wheldon on sunday. >> we have our memories, we have our feelings, and one day we'll be together again. it's not for that reason that -- it's for that reason that i'm not saying goodbye to dan, not today and not ever. goodbye is final, our friendship won't end. so for now, i'll simply say, i'll see you later. i love you my good friend. bill: he was 33 years old, survived by his wife and two young children seen in this photo. martha: to politics for a moment. there are interesting new comparisons being drawn between the re-election campaigns of fdr and president obama. a new op-ed says roosevelt

blamed wall street, and president obama is taking a hard line against the wealthyist americans which is a tune we've heard him humming quite a bit lately. doug shone joins me, fox news contributor. is this the way it works? do strategists sit back at the white house and go through history and say, well here is what fdr did. maybe this is something that is a note that we might want to strike that might help us. >> reporter: yes it does happen. i would say strategy is based much more, martha on the here and now but i would be not fully honest if i didn't say that you didn't comb history for examples of what has worked in the past. martha: when us look at the history of fdr when he was running it was a similar scenario in terms of the economy in some ways in that it wasn't getting any better, the economy was not improving. it was looking like it was chugging along a little bit. then you had the 1929 stock market crash, then after that all of his bets were off and he

was trying to scramble to figure out something. he said he was sick and tired of asking these businesses to get out there and hire people, wanted congress to help him out. >> reporter: right, it was much more dire times in the 30s than it is now. we're a middle class country that is center right, there is no real appetite for the kind of spending that fdr did or that some of the stimulus programs that the president has proposed both in the past and now going forward. so i think it's a different time, different circumstances. martha: fit is, is it a mistake for this president to point the finger at corporations and u know, all the folks who he says can afford to pay a little bit more? it seems to me we're conformed in the polls with that line. >> reporter: there is certainly sympathy, martha that wall street can pay more, upper income people can pay more, but this is a country that is mad at government. we want conciliation, cooperation and most of all jobs and economic opportunity. i don't think that the american people are really in it for the

long term for the blame game or pointing fingers. martha: you sat in these meetings during the clinton administration. if somebody had said to you, look u know what i think we've got to point the finger at wall street and wealthy people, that is going to be sort of our line of this campaign, what would you say if you were in there with them now? >> reporter: i'll tell you what i did say and what i did say. i did say then, no, way. i said we've got to cooperate and go for a balanced budget to get independence. what i would say is president obama that 53, 54% of independent dents in 2008 he's down at about 40% or lower, he's got to move stoepbt tere to get the voters back. there aren't enough votes to get reelected by moving hard left being a populous and tying him with occupied wall street. martha: interesting piece in the "wall street journal" about by paul moreno. thank you for being here. doug always good to see you. bill: jon scott is coming up in a moment on "happening now." hope you had a great weekend.

jon: i had a great weekend, bill thank you. shocking new developments to tell folks about in the search for baby lisa in missouri. witnesses reportedly claiming they saw a man with a baby near the family home on the night she disappeared as new surveillance video surfaces backing up reports there was a suspicious man nearby. also today, iran medling in iraq. afghanistan saying it would support pakistan in a war potentially with the u.s. and we'll show you the cadillac of rv's. it will set you back only $3 million. plus presidential candidate jon huntsman american is skug you can go to foxnews.com/"happening now." bill: we could go for years on that. jon: you know it. bill: we'll see knew 12 minutes. there are new concerns about day horan as the u.s. starts its pull out of troops in iraq. once they are gone will iran fill that void? martha: a u.s. marine shot and

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martha: an awful story this morning. a 20-year-old marine shot dead after a tragic mishap in the wilderness. christopher ochoa set out with a hike with his friend in portland, oregon. at one point crossing property that was owned by a 67-year-old man who was out hunting with his 12-year-old grandson. ochoa and his buddy were wearing dark clothing, and the man mistook him for a bear, opened fire and hit his target mortal lee wounding that young marine. the man was severely shaken by

the incident. police believe it was an accident. the d.a. will ultimately decide whether to file charges. bill: what a tragedy that is. martha: that is an awful story. very sad. bill: when it comes to watching the stars from an observatory the higher it's located the better. how about 45,000 feet? nasa giving the public a firsthand look at a new airborne telescope. it's known as sophia, that is the acronym for short. it can reach the limits of space that cannot be seen anywhere on earth. kaud today could you and is in san francisco on this. good morning. i guess most of nasa's telescopes, this one is actually not in space. explain that. why in. >> reporter: it's not in outer space at least. good morning, bill. the end of the shuttle program making it a about it tougher to maintain telescopes that are in space. nasa doing the next best thing by putting one up on an airplane, a heavily modified 747 that goes up to 45,000 feet. at that altitude sofia can

analyze spectrums of intrared light which scientists say holds valuable clues about the births of stars and planets, even our own. >> we know almost nothing about how the earth was born, and with this instrument we can find regions where we can begin to see planets coming together and we see the formation, and that is a part of our history and our past that will really open up in a way that we've never been able to do before. >> reporter: officials say because it flies so high sofia can see infrared images that ground-based telescopes cannot see. unlike the hubble this telescope can be easily repaired after it lands. bill: that will help them out. we understand, what is partnering with nasa on this? what kind of a price tag is on it? it's not cheap, is it claudia? >> reporter: it is not cheap, this is a joint venture between nasa and germany's space program costing about half a billion

dollars. a tph-s a scientists defending the price tag saying it is getting kids excited about stewence because a number of teachers are going up on these flights and then sharing their experience with their students, and on this particular day several classes from the san jose area actually got to board the plane and see the telescope up close. sofia has taken 38 science flights already, all nighttime flights lasting about ten hours and eventually, bill, nasa hopes to fly a thousand research hours every year seeking out what scientists call stellar nurseries where stars are born. bill: thank you, claudia. martha: this is crossing wires moments ago. harley-davidson is recalling about 308,000 motorcycles to fix a switch problem that can cause the brake lights to fail and possibly even the rear brakes themselves. they have a number of motorcycles that are on that list, touring, cvo touring and

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bill: fox news confirming some of the new rules that the president is now seeking to help homeowners in america who are under water. it doesn't apply to everyone who owns a home, just about 10% of those who have a loan from fannie and freddie who are underwater basically. they oh more money than the home is worth. the president is trying to get them to renegotiate and refinance, something that is very difficult for those who are underwater to do. the white house believes this is one initiative that will help the real estate market. also we hear it's one way to go around congress not to put up a fight there and put the policy in place very soon.

expect more on that a bit later from the president. martha: carving out a little piece of history near the windy city. 30,000 jack-o-lanterns. look at those carved and lit in high wood, illinois. that is a lot of carving. that is a lot of sticky pumpkin stuff on your hands. no word from the folks at the book of world records. they beat the record in boston, massachusetts. what happens to all of the pumpkins? word is that he will feed livestock at a local farm. i have livestock in my backyard, the squirrels attack them. bill: i love halloween. new york city, by the way is the greatest city in the world for halloween. i mean people who live in manhattan they are crazy already, they are nuts. you give them the opportunity to hide behind that craziness with a mask. martha: it's a frightening thing. you'll