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maria: good wednesday morning, everyone. thanks so much for joining us this morning. i'm maria bartiromo. it is wednesday, april 3, your top stories right now, you 6:00 a.m. on the east coast. today inflation fears gripping investors in a rough start to the second quarter with markets extending a two day selloff this morning as worries over spiking inflation and higher oil prices set the tone. the dow industrials right now lower again, extending a selloff yesterday. the dow falling nearly 400 points yesterday on new worries had take the federal reserve cannot cut rates amidst persistent i'mflation. opec plus is set to meet this morning after an earlier agreement to extend output cuts. take a look at the 10 year and two year interest rates which are up this morning about 2 basis points apiece ahead of the week's jobs data this week, the marmarch adp number out this

morning. the jobs report on friday. take a look at the euro zone. the ft 100 is negative, the others fractionally higher. asia overnight, red across the board, take a look. president biden holding a phone call with xi jinping in the first connection since november as janet yellen heads back to beijing with so far little progress in taming america's number one adversary. back at home, campaign blitz, president trump is beating president biden in six of seven swing states according to new wall street journal polls this morning as the 45th president hammers biden's failed border policies in michigan and wisconsin. plus, the house's investigation of the biden family influence peddling, oversight committee chairman james comer will join me with his next steps when congress returns to wash a ton next week. joining the conversation all morning long, bull's-eye american ingenuity fund manager, adam johnson is here, cyber expert krysia lenzo is here and

mahesh coo cook is here. "mornings with maria" is live right now. ♪ when i saw her face, i'm a believer. ♪ not a doubt in my mind. ♪ i'm in love. ♪ i'm a believer. ♪ i couldn't leave her if i tried. maria: and it's time for the hot topic of the hour. former president trump hitting the campaign trail yesterday holding rallies in br battlegrod states of michigan and a wisconsin, highlighting the violent crime sweeping the country as a result of president biden's open border policies, calling it, quote, biden's border blood bath. watch. >> i stand before you today to declare that joe biden's bore blood bath, that's what it is. it's destroying our country. it's a very bad thing happening. it's going to end on the day i take office which will be

january 20th. it will end. with your vote i will seal the border, i will stop the invasion. i will end the carnage, bloodshed and killing and we will crush the human traffickers. maria: and new this morning, the wall street journal poll shows trump leading biden in six of the seven swing states, that's arizona, georgia, michigan, north carolina, nevada and pennsylvania. and in wisconsin, biden and trump are tied in a head to head matchup. krysia, your reaction? >> well, with respect to the blood bath, donald trump is correct in doubling down on this term because it's tragically true. we have seen what has happened at our border, innocent lives being lost at the hands of illegal migrants, not to mention sex trafficking, drug trafficking, human trafficking in general. so at every level, this is a blood bath and the fact that joe biden also used the term and it was said oh, no, just trump is the one trying to incite violence which doesn't make sense. we know the term initially when he used it in context was used

with respect to the electric vehicles that would eliminate jobs but here again, he's right in using it. this is exactly what we're seeing at all aspects of our border. maria: they got into it over the word blood bath had yesterday. peter doocy grilling the administration on biden's use of the word blood bath as democrats slammed trump for using it. >> when donald trump is talking about a blood bath it is violent rhetoric. what was it when joe biden said in 2020 what we can't let happen is let this primary become a negative blood bath. >> you should read what he said in its context. >> i'm reading the direct quote from joe biden. >> he was talking about a group of people. what the president was talking about during the primary was not to allow it to be the words in the primarynd that election to become negative. two different things. they're not the same. [laughter] maria: your reaction? >> i'm not shocked at this

point. everything is so indicative of what joe biden is today which is a hypocrite, a liar, and we're going to continue to see it we're seeing a blood bath in america today, not only the economy, but the border. we're seeing fentanyl, human trafficking crisis across the country. 13.7 million illegal immigrants are battling illegal immigration today. we're at a crisis today. the press secretary continues to lie to the american people. we know they're lying. and it's a two tiered system of justice. democracy and everything else in our country. maria: had they try to play word games, adam. >> yes, they do. maria: let's look at the facts. people are dying and getting murdered as a result of this wide open border. >> when a new york city police officer named jonathan diller can be slain while he's on duty by someone who was arrested 21 times, that's a blood bath. when a beautiful nursing student

named laken riley can be killed in georgia by an illegal venezuelan, that's a blood bath. when thousands of americans die from fentanyl coming over from china courtesy of an open border, that's a blood bath. i don't know what part of blood bath kjp and the rest of the democratic apparatus don't understand. maria: they try to use the word to use it as a sledgehammer against trump. >> yes. maria: because he first used it referring to the ev vehicle situation. more of the same word games but not getting to the actual issues that are affecting the american people. >> yes. and donald trump again is correct in hammering this point home because his terminology is right. and he's focusing on the policies and this is exactly what the democrats are not doing. they refuse to acknowledge what is occurring at the border and the policies because they basically have no record to run on. donald trump has a proven record. he will affect border change day one which joe biden totally undid with his executive orders, 94 in 100 days, he undid trump's

policies and we're completely unsafe as a result, at the hands of the democrats we're facing this blood bath had. maria: i think it was more than 90 executive orders, 91 executive orders or 94 that joe biden came into the oval office, put in place to overturn trump's security at the border. >> he says he needs congress to fix the border, right? isn't that amazing. maria: this is an extraordinary situation. we're just gettinged this morning. president trump speaks with xi jinping for the first time since november discussing communication between our militaries yet again, no progress in raining in our number one -- reining in our number one adversary. i'll speak with senator haggerty coming up. combating hairs ament on san francisco's public transportation using just a card. it's making a buzz this morning. you're watching "mornings with maria" live on fox business. stay with us.

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federal reserve officials mary daily and l loretta mester callg for three more rate cuts in 2024 saying it's a reasonable a expectation. we will hear if jay powell this afternoon about the economic outlook that could be a catalyst for the market in either direction. joining us now is wealth consulting group ceo, jimmy lee. thank you for being here. seems like a whole new worry has entered investors' portfolio as a result of that hotter than exacted cpi last month and the rise in oil prices and interest rates. your reaction? >> good morning, maria. great to see you. well, i think the market selling off the last two days is a little bit of profit taking off of a very robust first quarter of a 10% for the s&p 500 and incredible rally we've had since the low in october of 2022 which a lot of investors have actually missed. i'm not concerned about

necessarily exactly when the first cut comes, but i do think if we can get a cut in june, that will be very bullish for the market. i think companies can then plan for being a little more aggressive for the second half of the year with their capital investments possibly so i hope we get a cut in june but i don't think the market will fall apart if we don't. i think investors are comfortable now in the economy, getting comfortable with higher interest rates, maybe staying for a little longer. maria: is this a pivotal moment, adam johnson or a buy the dip moment. oil prices this morning, oiling is rising again, the highest level since october. opec plus set to hold a policy meeting today after an earlier agreement to extend output cuts. this is part of the worry, adam, you've got crude oil at 85, 31. should the fed cut rates when you've got elevated inflationary signs. >> yes. i'll tell you why. inflation has come down

significantly. cpi was 9.1%. it's now about 3.4%. by the way, there are four measures of inflation. cpi is above 3. pce is above 3. but you've got ppi and gdp price index that are actually below 2%. the fed's target is 2. two of the two measures are below 2%. i think we're fixating on consumer prices. some of the pressures are coming off. i don't think we need to be as fixated on inflation and quite frankly fed policy as we are especially with the economy that's growing, with an economy that's nearly at full employment and with an economy that's generating earnings growth. maria: jimmy, how do you see it? i'm reading thomas lee's note this morning, says five reasons we're buying inflation fear two day dip. do you aagree? >> i agree. the last time adam and i were together we talked about new highs being good for the market, potentially be getting new highs

which has happened. three quarters of the companies in the s&p 500 above the moving 200. we know the russell did000 small cap stocks are moving on what happens with inflation data and investors think will happen with interest rates but i think investors will or should be positioned now or getting positioned now for a lower rate environment which means there's certain sectors that could do really well from here that are interest sensitive such as real estate, even utilities are having a rally, small cap stocks and longer dated bonds. i think this year will end up actually being a good year for stock and bond investors. maria: it's hard to believe that chairman powell is going to turn hawkish when he okays -- tn hawkish he when he speaks today at 12 noon. job openings in february rising to 8.75 a million, above expectations. we're awaiting the march adp number this morning. we've got the follow-up of the

march jobs report out on friday. economists are expecting growth, 200,000 jobs added to the economy with the unemployment rate 408ding steady at 3.9%. so see you've got two catalysts, jay powell speaking today. we'll see what he says. we've got the next cpi number out next wednesday on the tenth. what are your expectations for the two catalysts, what do we hear today from powell? let's start there. >> i think powell is going to say the same as what he's been saying. to me, he's very transparent. i like listening to what he has to say. i think he'll talk about being data dependent but inflation is going in the right direction and so i wouldn't be too surprised even though the futures market has come down on a chance for a cut that we do get one in june. the best case scenario is that we get inflation data prior to that to allow the fed to cut. not that i don't think the econn sustain the rates for longer but i think companies can plan to be

more aggressive in the second half of the year if that's the case which will spur on investment and spur on the economy here in the united states. we've got a recovery in china that's helping out a bit. i know you're talking about that a lot. but we've got from an economic standpoint i think china is proving to help out the global trade situation and the worldwide growth story that we potentially could get today or of this year and so i think powell in the statements will be similar to what he's been which is i think we can expect three cuts this year is what he may signal. maria: today we'll watch what jay powell says. jimmy, good to see you. thank you, sir. your morning mover is intel, stock down better than 5%, shares of the semiconductor company slipping after revealing $7 billion in operating losses last year. that's for its chip making unit. this is the first time intel disclosed revenue totals for what they commonly called the foundry business. this comes from the own operations. the stock this morning is down but it's still up 35% in the

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purchasing a $2 million ad a buy buy,to push the ban to a vote. joining me now, senator bill haggerty. thank you for being here. do you think the tiktok bill comes to the floor in the senate. >> it's hard to say, it's up to chuck shy y schumer whether it r not. maria: why would he not bring it. >> there's tremendous pressure for him to deal with this. when you look at where we wound up with the appropriation bills, almost to a government shutdown. it's difficult for me to imagine how prioritizes anything. maria: what are his motivations? why won't he do what the people want? >> seems that politics are the only motivation in this regard and power. the appropriation process has been bypassed for years, chuck schumer seems to want to control everything. he maintains control over what goes on the floor.

we'll see how the bill prioritizes itself. i think it will be basically politics at the end of the day. maria: that's really disaappointing. let me get your take on the call between xi jinping and joe biden. what do you know when on? are you -- it feels like the u.s. is constantly begging china for some kind of a rapport and constructive relationship, china doesn't respond. janet yellen is going to go back again. antony blinken is going to go back again. what's happening. >> china is a predator on so many fronts, economic preed r p, certainly military predators and from an economic standpoint as well. when i hear the white house talking, i understand some of the conversation between president xi and president biden was constructive. what they talked about with regard to tiktok i think president biden made clear what he's looking for is not a ban. he's looking for a divestiture. i think that's the path that chuck schumer will have to

figure out as he brings the bill to the floor. they're talking about production china is undertaking of green energy products and flooding the market with it. they're taking a champion industry, subsidizing it and flooding the market with it. what i would have loved to hear more about is how president biden is holding china accountable. i wish he would hold them accountable for purchasing energy from russia and iran. maria: why doesn't he hold xi jinping accountable? your point about flooding the market with subsidized products, i said it many times, john ratcliffe told me china's strategy is very simple, rob, replicate, replace, that's what they're doing in the ev area, isn't it. >> you talked about intellectual property theft and replicate, they copy what we have, try to make it better and replace with deeply subsidized products.

maria: tell me what's going on with tesla. >.>. >> there's a china ev car maker that's putting out a car that looks like a porsche. it's competing against tesla. tesla dropped 8% on the markets. maria: that's why tesla stock plummeted. that's the strategy, rob, replicate, replace. come up with something that's an american made company that has the intellectual property that they can steal, replicate it and then ultimately replace it. >> there's a deeper concern about the chinese evs as well. and that is that these evs have a tremendous amount of information gathering equipment and i think there's concern here in america that information can be gathered and in turn sent back to china. i think that's one of our gravest concerns, the national security law in china which says information gathered anywhere in the world as long as it's in the possession of a chinese company is subject to ccp surveillance. maria: i didn't see any readouts in terms of surveillance coming up in this conversation with joe biden and

xi jinping. fox news' peter doocy asked the white house national security communications advisor john kirby whether president biden is concerned about the open southern border, chinese nationals coming in and whether or not the wide open border and the fact we don't know who is coming in could ultimately lead to a terrorist attack inside of america. watch this. >> if we don't know who is coming into our country and we don't know what their intent is, that is a threat. does president biden agree? >> we do have significant national security concerns that have to be met. it's not anything more from the president. >> as the person in charge of presenting -- preventing a terrorist attack in the homeland, does pong po pong some border -- president biden think some of the border crossers could be plotting an attack. >> throughout the intell jens community, we're doing everything we can to be as voyagevigilant as we can to sece safety and security of the

american people at home. maria: are we doing everything we can to be vigilant? >> i met with a rancher at the border, he encountered syrian males, they presented themselves at the point of entry for asylum. they came across his ranch in a place they can't be detected. they're a got away. what are they doing here? we don't know. you think about the number of people that have actually been apprehended that are on the terrorist watch list, a number have been released into the country. if you arrive from venezuela, because they don't have an information sharing agreement with us, the presumption is it's okay to turn you loose in america m. meanwhile, venezuelan crime rates are coming down, jails are emptied in venezuela this is deeply concerning. maria: why is joe biden not recognizing this? iswhy is he putting america in a vulnerable position. >> it goes back to something -- i put forward legislation three

weeks ago suggesting we not be allowed to count illegal migrants in the census. right now, the illegal migrants are used to apportion congressional seats and electoral votes. you look at the people flooding into the country under joe biden, that would account for 13 congressional seats. 13 congressional seats and that many electoral votes. maria: the open border gives them more people to put in areas that have representation that is democrat, that will get them more seats in terms of congressional districts. >> exactly. maria: will those people ultimately vote? do they want them to vote in the presidential election? >> the democrats win regardless. they still retain congressional power. look at the states losing population, new york, illinois, california, where are the sanctuary cities located, new york, chicago, illinois san francisco. the congressional representative from brooklyn, the same district of james madison high school where they turned kids out so they could put illegal migrants

in for housing, she said i need the illegal my gra migrants fore purpose of redistricting. maria: not one democrat would agree to that impeachment. >> no, they would not. maria: some of the republican colleagues would not agree to the impeachment. >> the point is -- amendment. >> the point is they're taking the conspiracy and confirming it's a consistent spir at this e votes of the people in the blue district. we don't have that many illegal migrants in states like mine. if you have twice as many illegal migrants your voters get twice as many votes. maria: to put america in a vulnerable position to get more congressional districts is stung. you're headed to the n new york stock exchange today. are you going to raise the fact there are chinese companies listed on the exchange that don't follow the same accounting rules that every other public company does. >> the united states has the

most competitive, most effective capital markets in the world. you true source of competitive advantage for the nation. why do we allow chinese companies to come here, access capital markets, yet not play by the same set of rules that american companies have to play by. maria: the obama administration when joe biden was vice president signed a memorandum of understanding allowing this and we're wondering if he got paid for it from china. we'll talk with james comer coming up and i'll put that question to him. senator, thank you. we'll see you later and please report back on your meetings at the new york stock exchange. senator bill haggerty. stay with us. we'll be right back. p

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maria: welcome back. a devastating and deadly earthquake hitting taiwan this morning. cheryl casone with details now.

>> good morning. at least nine people are dead and more than 900 hurt after you powerful 7.4 magnitude earthquake rocked taiwan. that's according to the national fire agency. it is the strongest earthquake to hit the highland they 25 years. it could be felt in china and prompted a tsunami warning in japan. the warning has since been lifted. officials say at least 26 buildings collapsed, firefighters here working to rescue people trapped in that debris. according to local authorities, 131 people are currently trapped including 50 employees of a hotel. taiwan recorded 76 aftershocks in less than five hours and they expect these aftershocks to continue for the next three to four days. we're going to update you on this developing story throughout the morning. well, the owners of the cargo ship that crashed into the francis scott key last week, killing six, are denying fault as the lawsuit landscape begins to take shape in the aftermath

of the tragedy. grace ocean private, the owner and synergy marine filing a petition in federal court denying fault and neglect, they're asking for limitation of liability. this means they would not be financially held liable for amounts larger than the new value of the damaged vessel or $43.6 million. the ship had reportedly lost power ahead of the crash. that investigation continues. then there is this, brand-new footage is giving us an inside look at the raid on sean combs' los angeles home last week as part of the federal sex trafficking investigation into the rap mogul. the video released by the moi or of his two sons, it shows armored vehicles, officers in tactical gear aliving and arrivd entering the compound. they detained individuals, two of whom are identified as a

hilton and comb's two sons. this looks at what was happening behind the walls of the rapper's mansion. she's questioning why an aassault rifle and laser beams and a firearms were aimed at her sons. they're now represented by jeffrey lichtman, he represented john gotti, junior and el chapo. he's now representing those two sons. we've seen video of combs in miami. just a video. we don't know allegations against him. i'm assuming he's he denying def it. maria: he hasn't been charged with anything. .>> this is the investigation phase. i'm thinking charges are coming. maria: thank you, cheryl. >> you. maria: president biden and chinese president xi jinping speaking on the phone yesterday discussing taiwan, trade, a.i. technology and china's support

for the russian military. the white house down playing the call as a, quote, check in. janet yellen will head to china today for bilateral t meetings and antony blinken is set to visit in the coming weeks. joining me now is former state department senior advisor, the center for national interest senior fellow, christian whiton. thank you for being here. your reaction to this constant outreach to communist china? >> it looks like a repeat of the summer of love which was last summer after a series of cabinet leaders and the federal reserve chairman went to beijing in this nonstop pageant of outreach culminating the in the president meeting with xi jinping outside of san francisco at which nothing was significantly you a agreed on. while talking to xi jinping about a.i., do you think china is going to help us with a.i.? do we think china will do anything with a.i. except use it to make a more perfect tyranny and make weapons that are better

at targeting our ships and aircraft. it's just part of this biden administration china policy of not really having a china policy and yellen will talk about trade. what really that means is that any changes to u.s. raid policy are now going to have to wait until after she goes, after blinken goes and the administration seems less likely to make significant moves that really ought to be made before the election. maria: look, the last time we saw this, quote, unquote, check-in was in november when president biden was trying to get xi jinping to push the militaries of each country to have better communication. so that the militaries were talking with each other. we have not seen evidence that in fact they are talking regularly to one another. why not? and what do you think that kind of threat represents? >> it's a significant threat, the outgoing commander of u.s. indo-pacific command basically

in had his swan song before congress march 20th warned we're not building up our forces in the pacific adequately enough to deter china. there's been some good moves. we've been selling some arms to taiwan. a lot of those have gotten diverted to ukraine. japan is doubling its defense budget. but not really the plus-up that you would like to see and frankly a lot of aggression not just over taiwan. there's a low intensity conflict going on in the south china sea with the chinese coast guard and fishing vessels what are really chinese maly sha basically confronting taiwan over claims, claims that territories that the philippines has traditionally controlled, you could have world war iii, the flash point being the south china sea, instead of taiwan strait and but again, you're not seeing that sort of shift in our military from a force designed for counter insurgency in the 2010s as what we need today focused on china and to a lesser extent

iran. maria: not to mention china's support for russia and its efforts to crush ukraine and china's support for iran. iran's president is now vowing revenge against israel after the deadly idf air strike on the iranian consistent sewel cul c. the u.s. is diss distancing itf from the strike. >> you mentioned the united states reached out to the iranians. what is the rational in doing so? >> to be clear that the u.s. had nothing to with the strikes. maria: christian, your thoughts? >> this is like the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff calling up the chinese in the closing days of the trump administration to sort of make nice with our adversaries for no reason. we should be grateful for what israel did. it's very similar to what the trump administration did in orchestrating the killing of solemani. is a guy whose job it is to kill

israelis and americans. these are the ones in charge of exporting revolution, undermining any sort of accountable government in the middle east and replacing it with the type of islamist tyranny you see in iran and doing so through warfare so what israel did was good. it's similar like to the old days when they would go bomb saddam's nuclear program. we should be happy that they did this and not be condemning them. maria: israel of course taking responsibility for the air strike that killed seven world central kitchen aid workers in gaza on monday. saying the strikes were an accident. israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu writes this on x, israel deeply regrets the tragic incident that claimed the lives of aid workers. we will make our findings public. your thoughts? >> i would contrast this to what happened with joe biden when he got 13 u.s. service men killed in afghanistan amid the

humiliating withdrawal there. the white house, dod somewhat panicked in order to strike against someone that killed seven children, 10 people overall, they said they would take responsibility. they didn't. no one got held responsible for that. contrast that to israel who is going to take responsibility for this. joe biden called up the celebrity boss of this food distribution organization, has he called the families of americans who are held hostage by hamas? has he called any israeli families of young children who are murdered by these hamas terrorists? the priorities and emphasis are all wrong when it comes to our public diplomacy. maria: really discouraging. christian, thank you very much. we'll keep watching all of that. christian whiton joining us this morning on those threats. quick break and then san francisco's public trans for station hoping to combat ongoing harassment with a card. we'll explain the card in the morning buzz coming up. you're watching "mornings with maria" live on fox business. stay with us.

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>> would we be able to have bystander intervention cards, please? >> this card is for when you're being hara harassed. it says you got me. you hand it to someone else, givens you instructions on how to help you. maria: .maria: bay area rapid t looking to stop harassment. they can distribute cards informing and requesting assistance from bystanders. krysia, let's thing it out. you're getting attacked on the train, you go in the pocket, grab some cards, give them out to bystanders, your thoughts. >> this has to be one of the stupidist, most dangerous ideas i've heard from woke policy makers. really, someone like aoc would come up with this, she's an expert in everything, because it's so aloof, out of touch, you

have to be out of touch to think pulling out a card will protect you as opposed to having a police officer protect you from violent crimes which are seen on our subways, in our transportation systems every day. i mean, san francisco, there was a survey that said over 50% of people who are in the the transportation, have been on transportation experienced an attack. the same thing in new york. attacks are increasing every single day and these r cards will do absolutely nothing. maria: the cards state someone is harassing me right now. and then it lists options for helping, can you stand with me while this is happening? if i ask, would you text bart police. use the bart watch app or contat the train operator for me. why do i need a card to tell the guy next to me to help me if i'm getting attacked? what am i going to do, give me all your money, i have to get my card to give them out. >> we have have lacked common

sense today. i mean, at this point this is so juvenile, maria. this is what's happening in the woke liberal cities. instead of attacking the problem head on and saying we need more law enforcement, we need to enforce the law, we need to lock up criminals, by the way, good samaritans don't want to help people today. they're terrified. you had a man in new york who fired a warning shot to help a woman who was being mugged. the mugger wa wasn't arrested ad arraigned. it was the individual that fired the warning shot. we are unsafe. nobody will help with a card or a warning cry, like please help me. maria: this is so naive to think while you're getting atacked on the subway system you'll have the time to go in your pocket, get cards, hand them out to people. >> i mean, i don't even know what to say. when i first -- maria: it's so -- >> when i read about this, i thought it was a story from the onion, that's trying to make a joke. maria: yeah. >> it's just shockingly naive

of a government, right? i mean, the city of san francisco. to think that this actually has any meaning or any bearing whatsoever. maria: and why does a card need to tell a b bystander to help. you're a bystander, you see someone getting attacked, you're going to go get help. >> or you'll intervene yourself. for crying out loud, you need a card to tell you what you're witnessing with your own eyes right in front of you? maria: i would like to know how much the program is costing these geniuses. >> it's mind boggling. >> it's such a waste of taxpayer dollar. this is what liberal cities do. they continue to defend this outrageous behavior, defund our police and put the burden on good bystanders and they're opting out. nobody wants to help each other. they're going to be locked up. good people are locked up today. maria: i wonder what das have to say about this, the same d as who are processing people and letting them out on the streets. >> they probably think they're doing the good lord's work.

thea alvin braggs out there thik they're doing the right thing by standing up, quote, u unquote, r the little guy or the under-served member of our society, dot, dot, dot, illegal aliens glt be the underserved -- maria: i'm told it's $35,000. so it's a paltry sum that this is costing but still it seems wildly ineffective. >> from an ideological perspective, the fact that this is out there is costing us because this is resulting in bystanders stepping down because they feel like they have to read some sort of card on how to act. and this is why we have wonderful people who step up like daniel penny in new york, the marine, who they're getting punished as a result of all of this propaganda. i would say this is propaganda, if anything. maria: all right. let's take a short break and come right back. when we come back president biden speaks with xi jinping for the first time since november, putting the focus on the two

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maria: welcome back. thanks for joining us. i am maria bartiroma on wednesday, april 3rd, just before 7:00 on the east coast, top topic of the hour, president biden and xi jinping speaking for the first time since november the white house saying biden pushed xi on tiktok. hillary vaughan has more on the call. >> reporter: president biden and xi jinping had a phone call catch up. the foreign minister spokesman said biden requested the call and he had two big tech items he wanted to address.